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Oct. 3, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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The Real Deal (28 September 2021) Sandy Hook Truth with "Able 1212"
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal, where I'm very pleased to have as my guest today a fellow known as Abel1212, a longtime student of Sandy Houak, who has a lot to share with us today, and where I'm just delighted that we have caught up with each other.
Abel, this is your platform.
So go ahead.
I've made you host and you can do a screen share and tell us where you began and where you end and what's happened in between.
Absolutely.
Sounds good.
So thank you for having me.
And you're literally the only person to give me a platform.
So it's very highly appreciated.
So basically what happened was In the law, to give a summary of the past real quick so we can get into the meat of this.
I basically, we're going to, we're going to screen share actually right now first real quick.
So that way we just have a base.
Very good.
Okay.
So very interestingly enough, This is when I found out about, so this is like proof, this is one thing I always like to supply proof of my words because I don't like to deal with opinion.
So back in 2014, I learned about the Phoenix program and obviously this is after Sandy Hook had happened.
Right away though, on Facebook especially, I had always posted, and so I live in Connecticut.
I don't live near Sandy Hook.
When it occurred at the time I lived in West Haven, so it was like about an hour away from Sandy Hook, if less than that.
Now I live back on the other side of the state.
Well, ever since then, there's been tons of things have happened that at the time that it was happening in real time, I didn't really notice that I was being targeted or censored or any of this.
I was kind of just speaking my opinion on Facebook, not realizing.
I thought people weren't interacting with me because I was speaking the truth.
Years later, I realized that they just stuck me in a box on Facebook and kept me away from everybody.
And that's why nobody interacted with me.
It was because I was actually sharing the truth.
So what I'm getting at is, I always doubted Sandy Hook.
I even have Facebook posts to prove it, that I always questioned the narrative.
Like, I just, I didn't like it.
And I live here.
I did not like it.
And I noticed immediately, right when you talk about it, and I'm talking, I live in Connecticut, it was almost like, and I don't like to speculate at all, I don't like to speculate at all, but it's literally almost like there were plants everywhere, everywhere.
And I used to bartend.
So I bartended at Chili's, I've bartended at a couple places since then, and you can't talk about Sandy Hook.
You cannot talk about Sandy Hook, and I'm talking about from inside the state.
You cannot talk about Sandy Hook without one person.
One person randomly.
Oh, I know somebody that knew somebody that no, you know, and I know everybody that deals with Sandy Hook knows that narrative.
And it's even worse inside the state anyway, and very few people speak about the truth from inside the state.
I was one of the few that I know of.
Um, the only other people I knew of was Hal Big, Betzer, um, and there's a few other ones, but anyway, getting to where I am now, back in 2018, I started talking to, well, okay.
So 2016, I should actually, you know, can I show things?
I can show a video right now.
We're looking at your, okay.
So let's get to something that happened in 2016.
I called, um, I called Monte Frank and I called him.
It was a non-threatening phone call.
I basically, I just called him and I asked him, I wanted to know what You might identify Monty Frank, by the way, Abel, for those that don't know who Monty Frank is.
He was the lawyer of.
He was the lawyer.
For the Sandy Hook families that were this is actually this is long ago, actually, because those cases are long over and he had also Wolfgang Halbig.
Well, he was in court with over these things.
He jerked Wolfgang around.
He sent home witnesses.
Wolfgang had subpoenaed, told them they didn't have to appear and otherwise sought to sabotage his FOIA hearing where they were appearing under oath.
It was outrageous behavior for which, in my opinion, he deserves not only discipline by the Bar Association, but having his license revoked.
100% agree.
100% agree.
And what's interesting is, oh, look at this.
So this video got banned off of YouTube, eventually, for hate speech.
Is this a video of yours?
Yep, this is the video that started... Go ahead and play it, go ahead and play it.
This is the video that started the DHS censorship.
Before I play this though, I gotta show you what happened before it.
Sure.
Which is these guys.
These guys are.
So before what you're seeing right now, what happened was is I called Monty
Frank and I basically just said to him that there's too many holes in your
narrative. I.
I don't, I don't believe you.
And, and the truth is going to end up coming out.
And I recorded it so that way they can't say that I threatened him I recorded everything.
And he's like, you can't record me.
And I said, I don't give a, if I can record you or not.
I said, this information is going to go out.
Like I don't need your permission, Manny.
And so, because I called him and I told him that this, there's too many holes in the Sandy Hook story and that I'm going to put this information out about a week later, two weeks later.
At the time they came to my house, I didn't know that these were actual first responders to Sandy Hook.
Detective Dan McNaspy and Officer Seabrook, which they both got promotions by then, now.
Yeah, being a crisis actor, cop or not, victim, whatever, grieving parent, can get you handsome rewards, including promotions and big bucks in donations from sympathetic but gullible Americans.
And it's crazy how finessed everybody got.
Especially when you talk about Robbie Parker's foundation that was set up way early.
You talk about, there's, what else?
There was one of the major, oh, you know another thing you don't, yo, I have so much, I actually got my, you know, my family Sandy hook fund.
You know that charity, right?
It was the third highest charity that they have.
Do you know I'm the one that got that shut down, personally?
I have emails to prove it.
For charity fraud!
For charity fraud!
Abel, you're welcome to tell all your stories.
I'll show it all.
I have so much.
We can do multiple interviews.
This is only the first installment.
Perfect.
And we'll get to the why I am so censored.
Let's start now.
So what I did was I called Monty Frank, told him there's too many holes in the story, and a couple weeks later, I ended up having two first responders show up to my doorstep.
Two persons who alleged to be first responders.
Yeah, and you know the thing about these guys that alleged to be first responders?
These guys were the ones that went into the back door.
These guys were the ones that went into the back door.
These guys were the ones that allegedly broke the window.
Yeah, man.
Can you turn up the volume?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
How do I do that in here?
is the 23rd gentleman. Can you turn up the volume? Oh, yes, absolutely. Um, how do I do that in here? It's turned up
all the way. Yeah, okay.
We'll just muddle through and you can tell us what they said.
I can hear it faintly.
Go ahead.
Just go ahead.
Oh, so maybe you need to hear it through... You can hear it faintly because you're only hearing it through my mic.
You can't hear my desktop.
How do you hear my desktop audio?
Oh, go into share.
Go back into the share screen and there's a button over on the left that says include sound.
79?
Okay, name?
Detective Taylor.
Okay, name?
Detective David.
Good now?
Yep.
Cool.
This is Abel 1212.
We have the Newtown Police Department here.
Today is... So what happened is they actually came, they knocked on my door, caught me off guard, I told them to wait a minute, and they were both on the porch when I first came out.
I ran back in, I grabbed a camera, came back out, and then that's what you saw from here now.
The 23rd gentleman?
Oh right!
What is your name and badge number please?
Badge number is 79.
79?
Okay, name?
Detective Dan, I can ask you.
Detective, excuse me?
I said it very clearly.
I didn't hear you.
The reason I'm here.
I don't care.
Yo, you're out of jurisdiction.
Your name, sir?
Officer Seabrook.
Officer Seabrook?
So let me explain.
I live in New London.
They drove over an hour and a half.
Well, I'm sorry, they drove over an hour to come to my house over one non-threatening phone call to Monty Frank.
By the way, they came in an unmarked car, and you see Seabrook's hand right there?
He has his hand on his weapon.
He's covering it up.
Number please.
095.
095.
Go ahead, sir.
If you contact Monty Frank again, you will be arrested for harassment.
I already contacted him once, that's it.
That's it, and let's keep it that way.
Good.
Alright, you have a good day.
That's it?
That's it.
Oh, what's up?
No, no, let's talk some more, guys.
Come on.
As you said, I'm out of my jurisdiction.
You are out of your jurisdiction.
You too.
Yo, there's a shit storm coming, guys.
I hope you're prepared.
Did you make a threat?
No, I didn't.
I'm letting you know that there's a lot of information coming out.
I'm saying that there's a lot of information coming out and if information, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, if information is a threat, yo, you're out of your jurisdiction, motherfucker.
Yo, yo, you're out of your jurisdiction.
You're a human being.
I can talk to you any way that I want, son.
Can you?
Yeah, I can.
If I deem you a threat, I will arrest you.
Yo, I am not a threat, okay?
Yo, yo, if, if, if, if, I am not a threat.
Exactly, that's what I wanted to hear.
Good day, John.
You know that.
Thank you.
If you consider information a threat, then have fun, gentlemen.
My father was a detective, you know that, right?
You know about me yet?
Do you know about me, gentlemen?
Good.
Good.
Are you guys watching me?
Yeah, yeah.
Good.
Good.
I just want to pause it right there.
He just told me.
Not to contact anybody from Newtown.
He just told me not to contact anybody from an entire town!
Abel, it's just outrageous.
Now, you got a kinder treatment than Wolfgang, where he just made a couple of FOIA inquires and a couple phone calls.
Notice they weren't being replied to, calls not being returned, and the next he knew, there were two homicide detectives from the local precinct on the porch of his home in a gated community, telling him they were there on behalf of the Connecticut State Police, and if he kept asking questions about Sandy Hook, he would be prosecuted.
I mean, what have they got to fear?
If the story was on the up and up, none of this makes any sense.
But if the story was a sham, then all the pieces fall together.
And one of the big things that they don't bring up is what I'm about to show you.
So this and this is crazy because this is June 2016.
So I posted this like literally this says June 24th.
I posted this literally a couple of days or the next day after.
So.
You want to finish the video clip?
Yep, here we go.
I don't have to anymore.
I don't have to anymore.
Good!
I don't have to anymore.
You have a great day.
This is such an infringement of your rights as a citizen.
They don't have the legal authority to impose on you not contacting anyone in Newtown.
That's a threat to you.
You are not threatening them.
They are threatening you.
Just as the homicide detectives were there on behalf of the Connecticut State Police threatening Wolfgang.
We're just making inquiries.
Wolfgang's motives were as pure as they could have been able.
He just wanted to know what happened because as a nationally recognized school safety expert, he wanted to be in a position to advise other school systems how to make sure it didn't happen to them.
Yeah, like he actually came at it from a genuine angle.
Yeah.
At first.
Yep.
And his motives could not have been more pure.
He had no idea the story wasn't legit.
Right.
After that, that was a huge red flag right on his front porch.
It's like everything when it comes to the truth.
If you listen to mainstream media, it's wrong information.
And the CIA does a great job of putting out a false narrative along with their mainstream narrative to get people misled purposely.
Because, like I said, I've seen very, very, very few people bring up the Department of Homeland Security Listen, Abel, you're making such a good point.
One of my recent blogs is entitled, you know, Why They Denounce Conspiracy Theorists Because We Are Investigating Crimes.
No wonder they want to silence us.
Crimes that lead back to the deep state, to the CIA itself, which after all is conspiracy central.
How could they do better than to shut down anyone investigating conspiracies when they're behind a whole lot of them?
I mean, you know, it's unbelievable.
It's like these guys saying you're not even allowed to talk to anyone in Newtown.
They're cutting off your right to investigate.
If their story were true, their attitude would be the opposite.
Come on in, talk to anyone.
We want to show you all the evidence because it's all on the up and up.
But obviously, already it's apparent it is anything but.
And they drove over an hour to tell me this.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Driving over an hour to tell you that?
And with his hand on his weapon?
I think we get the idea.
We get the idea, Abel.
It's crazy, man.
Remember, this is in 2016, before I turned the heat up.
This was me just because I was... I like to go to the source.
When it comes to anything I do, I like to go to the source.
See, Abel, this is indicative that these people are amateurs.
They're not used to covering up a fraud.
So they're driving over now, speaking to you, telling you can't even communicate.
I mean, this is all juvenile.
There's no legal standing, and it's embarrassing, but they didn't know what else to do.
And Monty Frank told them to do it, I have no doubt.
Oh yeah, definitely.
No, it's not even you have no doubt.
I actually got that paperwork in March 2020.
I got... Oh, I should tell you that because of this right here, I ended up finding out that they illegally invest... Oh, I'll finish.
There's a story that goes with this video.
There's a story.
There's a story.
What I will say is one thing that I've learned about the intelligence community is that they haven't gotten more intelligent over the years.
They've gotten more deceptive.
I can believe that.
Go ahead.
Say something else like that again.
I'm going to take it as a threat.
Yo, I'm talking.
I'm not talking to you anymore.
Good.
Do not contact anybody.
I don't have to anymore.
We're all set. You have a great day.
Great day.
Nothing is safe there, guys.
Yo, I'm talking... You can't arrest me for shit.
I'm not making a threat.
I'm saying the fact of the information that you guys are trying to keep confidential there is not safe.
That is what I am saying.
The information that you guys are trying to keep confidential in Newtown is not safe.
You guys are gonna find out.
Information, that's what I said.
What I said... I will not do anything to harm anybody, guys.
That is not me.
That is not me.
If you consider information... Have a great day, guys.
Good luck!
New Town!
That's just embarrassing.
Oh Over an hour.
He drove over an hour to intimidate you.
Punk ass bitches.
With fear.
And, so my father did, he used to be a cop.
He used to be a detective for New, uh, for the town I live in now, New London.
And, uh, so they know about me.
They know, like, they...
Like, there was a whole 1987 cocaine drug incident, dirty cops, like, there's a whole... My childhood's crazy.
People, I'm telling you, they did not expect you to be so outspoken and repudiating what they were doing.
They were taken off guard.
They did not know how to handle it.
A lot of people, if you read the comments on this video, it's pretty interesting that a lot of people are like, wow, that was all, like, and to me, I was just being me.
I was just being, like, they were out of jurisdiction.
Like, I was, I felt defensive, yeah.
Like, that's why I was acting the way that I was acting, because I was, I was, they were Breaking my rights!
They broke—so if you look on here, they broke code—they broke 42 U.S.
Code Section 1983, Civil Action for Deprivation of Rights, and also 18 U.S.
Code Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights.
They literally committed two felonies.
Those men should be in jail.
Yeah, and it's conspiracy because there are two or more of them who are doing it.
You throw in Monty Prank, it's a minimum of three of them conspiring to deprive you of your rights.
That's yeah, that's why it's a conspiracy against rights.
Yeah.
Also, I and the crazy thing is I have all the paperwork to back it up because it so what happened was is I wanted Monty Frank's paperwork because of this incident.
And what they did is said that I was under investigation.
And that there was an active investigation.
They couldn't share with you give me the papers.
Such bullshit.
So they blocked those papers.
Such bullshit.
You want to know how long they blocked those papers for?
Three and a half years!
Well, they probably ran out the statute of limitations, see?
But of course, until you know the crime is committed, that's when I think the clock would begin to tick.
It's tyranny.
I have tyranny.
I have the paperwork, too.
That's what this is here for, because this is exactly what I did.
And you know who I talked to, right?
You know who I talked to?
James Viadero.
The chief of police.
Directly.
When Wolfgang and I went to Newtown in 2014, he and two other of the highest ranking officers of the Newtown Police Department would not speak to us.
Nobody, they don't want to talk.
They don't want to talk.
But why?
If it was on the up and up, what in the world?
They'd be eager to talk because they'd want the public to understand what happened and the enormity of the tragedy.
Because it's guilt.
Have you ever seen the three men that walked on the moon?
You ever seen their interview immediately afterwards?
No, no.
That's guilt.
That's not.
That's not.
You can tell, man.
Oh yeah, sure.
You mean the press conference?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, that was guilt.
100% guilt.
That's what it is.
That's what it is with these guys.
It's guilt.
They don't even know they're acting the way they are.
They don't know they're acting that way.
And a lot of people can't even perceive they're acting that way.
Yeah.
A lot of people kind of just swallow whatever they're doing.
You know, magic is real in this world, and a lot of people are under spells.
Well, we could debate the meaning of that, but go ahead.
So, let's talk about what this led to.
You want to identify what you got there.
Go back up.
Go back up.
Oh, that's... I'm going to go in order.
I'm going to go in order.
That's why I'm coming down here first.
Okay.
Um, so, back in 2018, I ended up posting a video, which was banned from YouTube eventually.
Um, and it's a one minute video.
A one minute video.
Um, which now on BitChute has like 3,400, like, I don't even do anything with this video.
Um, so, and see, this is what I was telling you about, FEMA Drill L-366.
So this was banned from YouTube, and I'll just play it, because that's the only thing better than my words.
I'm not a fan of Alex Jones at all, but he shouldn't be sensitive.
So this was right after...
Let's listen to this, it's perfect.
This was right after they ended up, um...
This is when they took...
They de-platformed Alex Jones.
And I'm not a fan of Alex Jones.
In my opinion, Alex Jones is a puppet.
His deposition, he swallowed it.
And there's another thing to talk about where he paid off FBI agent Bill Aldenburg when there was a dude with a pseudonym name of Barry Sotoro that is the reason why Bill Aldenberg's name came up in the first place.
It wasn't because of Alex Jones, but Alex Jones didn't fight that at all and just beat everybody.
Isn't Aldenberg the one they claim was David Wheeler who was walking up and down, you know, Dickinson's only weapon upside down by the magazine?
Did you ever hear about somebody that called him?
Which no one with any experience with firearms, including obviously an FBI agent, would ever do.
Ever.
David Wheeler was nailed And of course, Obama would fly him and his wife down to Washington and have them appear, speak from the Oval Office about the tragedy of Sandy Hook.
Both of them, by the way, have professional acting credits.
Oh, yep, yep, I have it all.
And she was the personal assistant to Maureen White, who was the biggest fundraiser for the Democratic Party.
Imagine that all, almost.
That's an amazing coincidence.
Almost.
Imagine almost all the things you could ever imagine.
I haven't documented.
Good, good, good.
I haven't documented because, like, down to little things.
Barb Sibley's story does not match the main timeline.
Let's watch your one minute video and then we'll continue.
This is right after Alex Jones got de-platformed and they took him off every platform.
And I don't even agree with Alex Jones, but like I said...
I'm not a fan of Alex Jones at all, but he shouldn't be censored.
And I'm from Connecticut.
Right on the Department of Homeland Security's page, straight from dot gov, we have a FEMA drill scheduled the same day, same time, in the same county.
And if you plug in Sandy Hook zip code, it's 13 miles away to be precise.
And let's not forget this is a FEMA drill.
L366, planning for the needs of children in disasters.
So when Sandy Hook happens, look who shows up.
Homeland Security.
Then people noticed the check-in sign.
And when a Freedom of Information request was put in to the town of Newtown,
they said they didn't have the list, because they didn't put the sign there.
And in court, when they asked First Election of Newtown, Pat Lodra,
who put the sign there, she said, I believe Homeland Security put it there.
P.S.
There is much more to this story, like the H.R.
5736 Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, which legalized domestic propaganda.
That's real good, that's real good.
I mean, I emphasize the Smith Modernization Act of 2012 is paving the way for all these legitimizing all these phony stage events beginning with Sandy Hook, then the Boston bombing, then Orlando and Dallas, then Charlottesville, then Parkland, then Las Vegas.
I have books on all of the above with one on Las Vegas in the works.
And I've done so many videos on all of these.
Anyone who wants to check it out, go to How to Spot a False Flag Part 1 and How to Spot a False Flag Part 2.
You can get links on my blog at jamesfetzer.org.
Go to the 65 Stories, because from May to November of 2020, I had a website called jimtheconspiracyguy.com.
And I would do major stories on Sunday, and then on Tuesday and Thursday I'd interview individuals, and I wound up having 65 shows before I had to discontinue because I didn't have $100 a month to maintain the site.
So I put them all on a blog at jamesfetzer.org, And if you go there, you can click on it, but I think on most searches you'll turn that up, or a four-part series I did with Dr. Katherine Horton on how to spot a false flag, which is also wonderful because she adds her own comments and discussion, and that is fascinating.
So that's a longer version of what you can get, a shorter version.
This is all good.
I like what you're doing, Abel.
You're very much in sync with my research.
Suddenly we lost your voice.
Sorry, I do that so that way it doesn't echo.
I just pull from what I get.
I just deal with facts because I don't really like opinion.
It's hard to...
Um, what did I want to do?
I wanted to go to this and show, oh yeah, so, so I don't know, I mean, not to get off track, but, um, as you said, like, the Boston FBI, so, like, you know, a lot of people talk about, um, what happened at the Boston bombings.
I... is another warning video.
Okay, and how do you know this person was an FBI agent?
I called the Boston FBI and confronted them, and I confronted them twice.
I have another phone call I haven't, um, I haven't released, but...
Okay, and how do you know this person was an FBI agent?
Um, he puts in an ear- he wasn't watching the race.
I'm not saying that I know that he was, but all I'm saying is that you guys gave CNN that footage and you guys blurred his face out.
So why did you guys blur his face out?
I don't know.
I'm thinking because he's an FBI agent, because right when the Sarnia brothers walked by, he pulls an earpiece out of his shirt and puts it in his ear.
Okay, I'm just saying you don't know specifically that it was... You don't have any direct... Obviously, yes.
No, I don't.
I honestly don't know for sure, but I'm saying that the FBI knew where the Tsarnaev brothers were.
I mean, it's also known that the FBI was working with them.
We all know that.
That is fact.
But my point is... My point is just one of the main points, because we can sit here and argue this and argue that and argue this.
My point is that the footage you guys gave CNN Asking for the public's help on where they were.
You have somebody on them right there.
They didn't like that.
Let me say several things.
There was a glitch there because when they photoshopped the brothers into the marathon footage and they were not there, they committed several mistakes, the most important of which was they didn't match the backpacks.
So those that exploded were compact nylon backpacks.
With a white square on him.
And you got Tamerlan in the distance with his big baggy backpack.
It's dark colored, but it doesn't resemble the backpacks that exploded.
And then Zoker has a silver or gray, light gray backpack, not even remotely.
And you know what?
Judy Clark, the defense attorney who formally pled Zoker not guilty in her opening statement, said they did it.
Uh, relieving the prosecution of the obligation of proving they did it, which they could not have done.
I mean, this is all absurd beyond.
Yeah, it was.
They were fall guys.
And as you observe, when the FBI showed just their photographs and said, can you help us identify them and said, don't look at any other photographs.
That's because there are photographs of Kraft International personnel in khaki trousers, black jackets, black baseball caps, who actually were carrying the backpacks that exploded to the locations where they exploded and then running away, no longer wearing them.
And get this, further confirm your point, Abel, the FBI had had the brothers under surveillance for at least five years, so they already knew who the hell they were.
So that's what I said to her.
Asking for the public's help in identifying them.
Yeah, that's why I told her that.
I said it's known that you were working with them.
Yeah, well known.
But I like to go to the sources, that's what I mean.
So like I talked to a field agent and I put a report in saying you guys have some fucking, excuse me, you guys have some corruption in your own thing and like your perspective is wrong.
Now I called them back again too and I told them something else about their video and not only that but you want to know something else?
I think I found the bombers.
Yeah, it's funny.
But that's a totally different project.
So what I ended up doing is this years ago, where I started talking about The Phoenix Program, because the Phoenix Program, a lot of people, so I don't even know if people are paying attention to what's going on now, but everybody that does not accept the vaccine mandates, or if you go against mainstream narratives, then you're a domestic terrorist.
This is put out two weeks ago, three weeks ago by Department of Homeland Security.
A lot of people don't know about the Department of Homeland Security.
I've been trying to scream to people about the Department of Homeland Security since 2014. 2014.
Well, it was a Patriot Act.
because a lot of people don't know where it came from.
We know when it started, it started in 2001 after 9-11, but we don't know much about it,
but we know that they make a lot of laws around it.
Well, it was a Patriot Act.
It was a Patriot Act.
Yeah.
After the 9-11 atrocities where the 19 Islamic terrorists had nothing to do with it.
In fact, half a dozen of them turned up alive and well the following day and made contact with the British media, and yet the FBI has never revised their list.
I have a guy who's in a position to know, he says, once a government commits itself to a lie, it's stuck with it and it will never change.
It's true.
All they have to do is keep repeating it.
That's what they do, and then try to fend off anyone who offers criticism to the contrary, just like those two guys drove for an hour to try to shut you down.
I mean, this is insulting, unconstitutional, grossly illegal, violating your rights.
That's why, listen, another thing is, listen, I live in the Constitution State, and I've been trying to tell people that they don't even have any rights, because I've been under this subjugation for years, that I've been trying to scream, I don't have any money, so people don't care.
Tell us about the Phoenix program.
The Phoenix Program, right out of the Phoenix Program, right out of the book, it's a great book, go get it.
You'll understand what's actually happening now with COVID globally, and the way they go about doing it.
Right now, the Smithmont Modernization Act of 2012 is in full effect.
Full 100% effect.
And that's because COVID-19 is taken as a real narrative.
So, technically, they're not breaking any laws.
That's right.
Thanks to Barack Obama.
Barack Obama legalized all these scams on the American people, this massive barrage of propaganda.
People don't know that our tax dollars are funding their own propaganda against us.
People do not understand that we are funding our own propaganda against us.
Yes, to manipulate us.
Yes.
So, it says right in here, it says, the ultimate fusion of bureaucracy and psychological warfare.
It serves as the model for America's homeland security apparatus, as well as global war on terror.
And if you know about the global war on terror, you know that's BS too.
It's basically just to, you know, usher in the New World Order.
So, and we know that... DHS, like I just showed you, has to do with... Has to do with these guys.
Has to do with Sandy Hook.
Because they were behind it.
Now, another thing we need to talk about when it comes to Sandy Hook is Freemasons.
Because we have Freemason firefighters.
We have Freemason state police.
We have Freemason cops in Newtown.
We have Pat Lodra, which is basically Order of the Eastern Star.
I'm assuming she is because she was in a Freemasonic lodge.
Um, and I have pictures of all this, everything I'm saying.
I can, listen, I don't, I don't, I can show you everything.
Um, this is the Phoenix program, as a matter of fact, by Douglas Valentine.
Um, so I had posted this video about DHS, you know, that I just showed you on, um, YouTube in 2018.
Bridgeport is not Sandy Hook.
And my inference has been what happened in Bridgeport was a diversion.
Well, we actually even have the FEMA manual for the exercise at Sandy Hook.
I'm surprised they went all ballistic about this.
Maybe it's because you were inviting them to do research on FEMA and DHS.
Bridgeport is Fairfield County.
It's all the same county.
It's all the same county.
It's how they funded it.
That's how they funded it.
Ah, this was used as a channel for funding.
That's how they funded it.
Yeah, DHS.
Very good.
Very good.
That's very interesting.
That may very well be spot on.
Whatchamacallit, Project Longevity, I think, had something to do with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They made money off of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eric Holder.
Yeah.
He was in Newtown prior to- He was the governor on the 27th of November.
Yeah.
I haven't talked about this information in years.
This is just stuff that I'm- It's good.
It's good.
It's good, Abel.
Um, so what I did in 2018 was I put out this video less than five months later.
Less than five months later.
I actually do a quick timeline.
Less than so, before December.
Before just December 14 because this this drill that I'm talking about.
The Bridgeport drill.
Yeah.
was up the whole time.
And like I said, it's 13 miles away.
From Sandy Hook.
Bye.
Uh, same County.
Is there any record of anything having happened in Bridgeport at that place in time?
I don't know.
I mean, that would be interesting if nothing, in fact, was going on in Bridgeport.
Oh, yeah, no.
Sandy Hook happened.
That's it.
Listen, what I'm saying, Abel, this is a draft for an event in Bridgeport.
Now, I'm saying you're suggesting it was actually used to funnel the money for Sandy Hook.
I'm open to that.
I think that's very plausible.
Absolutely.
But it would be further confirmation of your hypothesis if there were no records of anything having happened in Bridgeport at the same time these events were going on in Sandy Hook.
There isn't.
They claim it's just a class.
Pardon?
There isn't.
They claim it was just a class.
They claim it was just a class for one thing, where when you look at the description of this, it was not.
As a matter of fact, I can show you because I just found it again.
Like I said, I had re-found them, archived.
So let me see, it was FEMA.
three six six dash I believe I have it on two.
Well that's a picture.
Yeah, planning for the needs of children in Bridgeport.
Same time, same day.
Yep, same county is the importance.
All Fairfield County.
12 14 9 a.m.
to 4 p.m.
and that's so that's what I mean you claim it's a class in the event in Newtown ran from 8 a.m.
until 11 59 p.m.
until 11 59 p.m. on the 13th and then 14th was for a review and evaluation and
that's of course when they fake the shooting where there was no surge of
EMTs into the building no string of ambulances to Russian bodies off to
hospitals where doctors could declare them to be dead or alive no
medevac helicopter called triage tarps were put off but no bodies dead or
wounded were ever placed upon them because there were no bodies to place
zero sense of emergency Zero sense.
Yeah, no urgency whatsoever among anyone participating, because they knew they were just walking through it, that it was just a stage event.
Very good, Abel.
Continue.
I'm looking now.
Where is my... Here we go.
Updated Sandhook page archived.
Come on.
We're about halfway through what we're doing today, my friend.
Okay.
So it'd be good if you gave us a global sketch, and then we'll come back and fill in the details.
I don't know why this isn't working.
You go ahead and present I'll tell you Okay, so basically, let's just go.
I'm looking for... I don't know where it is right now, but...
I have it.
I do have them.
Alright, so we're just gonna show.
So, less than five months later, so that video that we just watched with me talking about the Smith-Montauk, talking about The Department of Homeland Security specifically being there.
So I put that video out and less than five months later.
So here's the explanation.
For almost six years, the Department of Homeland Security had their FEMA drill pages on their website.
The video below.
Was only up for less than five months, drawing attention to the FEMA drill on their website.
And it made DHS take down and remove their webpages for the FEMA drill scheduled that day.
Okay.
So that's mind you able, it appears that Bridgeport wasn't actually a drill.
It was just a class as you're saying.
So that's what they claim.
Yes.
Um, I think it would make too many people think this is a remarkable coincidence and therefore they would, it would strengthen their suspicions.
It would strengthen their suspicion that Sandy Hook might not have been on the up and up.
Apps, that's why I grabbed on the .gov, there is no denying.
Like, you have to understand that, so this is about the censorship.
Oh wait, no, I'm sorry, this is the beginning.
Oh, here, I'm on the wrong page.
Okay, so this is the censorship.
You have to understand that what I'm presenting to you has all been deleted by the Department of Homeland Security.
Which is, by the way, consciousness of guilt that's incriminating in and of itself.
So here we go.
It's good that you captured this, that you had the presence of mind.
This, yo man, this is only one, Sandy Hook is only one thing that I have dirt on.
I know, but that's the one we're talking about.
It's hilarious, I know, but I'm just saying it's hilarious because I, this government, I have a lot of stuff I'm about to drop.
So that's why I appreciate this so much, the platform.
Well, we're gonna do a series here, Abel, so, you know.
Well, that's great.
You don't have to worry about packing everything into this initial.
This is an introduction to your research.
Facts.
And we're just gonna show this Department of Homeland Security censorship, because the censorship is key.
Like, why do they even care about what I say?
I mean, it's the Department of Homeland Security.
The fact that they wiped it is damning.
That's very significant.
Less than five months after I dropped my video about it.
Well, it was when they caught up that you had, in fact, made a point about it.
That's what... Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So see, so here it is.
The Department of Homeland Security website, planning for the needs of children disasters.
It was page one.
This was the exact link they removed.
You know, it says they're a drill.
It says they're a drill, but you're telling me what, they later reversed themselves and said it was only a classroom discussion?
No, no, no.
So listen, it's, it says it's a FEMA drill.
But I'm saying that I've had so many, as you know, you've had trolls, I have had so many trolls, Sandy Hook, that come attacking you.
And so, and I've had, in my opinion, I've had some undercover cops, I mean, cops under fake names, because they use some cop jargon.
And And they had said, it's only a class.
It was only a class for those that type.
So it's just to deflect.
I don't care what they say, I'm saying, but that's what they're trying to say about this.
And I don't care what they say because this speaks louder than any of their words.
Abel, I get it.
Everybody who does research knows all this bullshit that goes on.
That's not an issue.
Absolutely.
So, this is, this is, I had this documented, see, so March 14th, 2018.
March 14th, 2018, I had this documented in my bitly links already. So, that was before they removed it.
This is a picture that I had, but now I have it actually archived again.
This is the drill scheduled that day.
This is part two.
This is, I mean, I should say page two.
This is also the other link that they have.
Where can you show us in the DHS where it uses the word drill?
Can you sort of zoom in on that?
I mean, um...
Well, we can read this.
Yeah, does it use the word drill?
See, it says the goal of the course.
Yeah, but the thing is, when you understand what this is, it involves the entire community.
I mean, it involves... I mean, identify stakeholders and organizations that can assist in preparing for the needs of children and disasters, initiate steps from... So it's not a class, it's literally... It's... Here, this is actually better.
They're talking about what the participants will be able to do after the course, and they're giving training on how to do these things.
that do the organization assignment responsibilities and address the unique needs of children's prior to
to deserting the following disasters, explain planning components
to address the unique needs prior.
Same thing, identify stakeholders and organizations.
There are no prerequisites for this class.
No.
Let me tell.
As of October applying, this is so you need a student identification card.
Let me tell you what I think you got here.
It actually was a class about how to do these things.
You need to complete the course application.
The word drill doesn't actually fit, but what you did was Discover this activity that involved FEMA and DHS nearby on the same day.
Same time, same county, absolutely.
And they were upset that that's going to incite people, strike them as curious, and they're going to want to investigate about FEMA and DHS in relation to Sandy Hook.
So they were worried.
They wanted to nip it in the bud by suppressing you.
But I think the word drill for Bridgeport is in fact inaccurate that it was actually a course.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
But in my opinion... But you've still done something important here.
That's fine.
But in my opinion, it was carried out as a drill because it was Sandy Hook.
That's what funded it.
Do you get it?
I've already said I think that's very plausible that this was a mode of funding, but I would think... ATF was there.
DEA was there.
State police was there.
Local police was there.
Neighboring community police were there.
That's a drill.
You're saying they were all there for the Bridgeport event?
No, they were all there for Sandy Hook.
Of course, of course.
That's the drill.
I'm saying that's the drill.
Able, able.
So I'm saying this is on paper as a class.
It was carried out as a drill as Sandy Hook because that's the funding for it.
I mean, we do have Eric Holder in Connecticut talking about funding.
Of course.
For Project Longevity.
He met with the governor on the 27th of November.
Like, I understand what you're saying, but my point is, it was carried out as a drill.
We do know about St.
Rosalima, right?
We know about the St.
Rosalima drill.
Right.
That Anderson Cooper showed on his on a show 360 show as live footage of police entering the school of Sandy Hook.
Right.
We know about that.
Right.
We know about the edited footage.
I've never done much with it.
I think Wolfgang was bigger on that than I was.
How are you showing live footage using a different police department of a drill that took place on a different day?
Yeah, I like that.
This is on 9-11.
They showed the Palestinians rejoicing, but it was archival footage from an earlier event where they had a... They were celebrating about the attack on New York City.
They just happened to have that at their fingertips, just as they had at their fingertips this event at St.
Rosalima.
And a different police.
I mean, this just shows how they do a patchwork quilt and we're not supposed to be able to sort it out.
So I think you have a lot of good work here.
They put out tons of misinformation along with the mainstream narrative to throw people off.
Absolutely.
I'm really liking going over this with you because it reminds me of a whole lot of aspects, some of which are underdeveloped in my own personal research.
Did you ever get a copy of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook?
I think I have it on PDF, yes.
But again, that is all.
It's not enough for me.
No offense.
Not enough?
No.
Obviously, you haven't gotten anywhere, right?
I don't know.
I think I got quite a ways, but... I mean...
Like, basically, like, I got the attention of DHS.
This is only one.
I'm not done yet.
There's more censorship by DHS on different platforms.
It's pretty funny.
And then I also have Benny Thompson's reactions of me personally talking to him telling, well, on.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
We got about 10 more minutes.
Go ahead.
After they deleted these off their website, I went back onto their website and searched keywords.
And when I made this compilation of all the censorship, at the time, it was still there.
It was still searchable.
And I would tell people, go ahead, try yourself.
Go in, type this, paste this in the search bar.
So when you did that, Guess what?
They still showed up.
So it's funny how just I just I like to double back my information just so people.
Yeah, it's good.
It's good.
I like what you're doing.
I wanted to show that.
Look, they got rid of it, but it's still in there.
It's still in their database.
Yeah, no, that's good.
Then, mind you, YouTube deleted, like I said, the video that I showed you about DHS being on the scene.
Pat Lloyd, you're talking about DHS putting the sign there, people signing in.
Yeah, I love that you had that clip.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Of Kate Wilson questioning Patricia LaLorda.
Absolutely.
So now there's, here's another thing that a lot of people don't know about.
A lot of people don't know about, so you know how all the censorship started with us online?
Let me actually bring attention to this.
Because this is good.
A lot of people don't understand how the censorship started online.
And it's because they have blinders on because they don't want to look at Sandy Hook like that.
And a lot of people don't know that Lenny Posner, back in 2018, requested for fake information to be censored online.
Lenny Posner called for this.
Yeah.
Like Lenny Posner called for the communist censorship that we see online now.
Like himself called.
Like here's a whole article on it.
So with that said, I want to bring you back to when it actually started because DHS is behind the censorship that we see online when it comes to these things.
And they used Sandy Hook to do it.
They used Sandy Hook as a starting point to start censoring us.
And a lot of people don't understand that.
People think it's because, oh, dead kids.
People don't understand how important Sandy Hook was to the censorship that we face now.
And I had came across a video on the Department of Homeland Security's own YouTube page that had this video.
We're not going to watch it.
I would suggest you should watch it.
You can go on this here, or you can just type in.
What is Ms.
Gallagher saying?
So what they're talking about, it's an eight-minute video, so we don't have time to go through it now, but what the congressman or the senator is saying, what is it?
Is it a senator?
That says Miss Callahan.
It says, well, the rep.
Rep Patrick Meehan.
Oh, that's Meehan.
Oh, she is a rep.
Oh, representative.
So she's a member of the Congress.
I don't know if she is.
Here, we're going to go look.
That's what it said.
Representative from Connecticut.
I think it said Republican.
Mr. Long, thank you for your, uh, thank you for your question.
So him, oh, Meehan, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Meehan.
Meehan is the representative.
Meehan, so he, and he keeps asking, so he basically keeps asking DHS, what do you want to do?
What do you want to do?
I don't know if you remember a time back in the day when you couldn't say bomb or explosion or you remember there was hot words that you were told about and you're like oh my gosh we can't type these words on your poster you'll end up on this list or whatever you remember you remember that time like about 10 years ago online?
Yeah.
Vaguely.
Vaguely.
Right.
Well, so this was it.
This was that time.
Was she representing FEMA or DHS?
She's representing DHS.
Okay.
So in this meeting, DHS is asking for permission to spy on people's hot words so that way they could, and this is 2012, February 2012, before Sandy Hook, before Sandy Hook, before Aurora, DHS is asking to spy on people's comments and what they're talking about by using hot words, and this is an interesting video.
Like I said, you really should go watch it.
Well, let's anticipate including it completely in our next installment.
Absolutely, we'll do that.
And And what she does is he keeps talking to her and asking her, and she just keeps, and he's like, so I know you keep bringing up natural disasters, natural disasters, but I want to know if somebody is just talking, are you going to start spying on them?
And it's a very interesting conversation video.
So I had made this.
Abel, if you want to play it right now, we can play it right now.
Okay.
It's an eight minute video.
Yeah, I understand.
Go ahead and play it.
All right, cool.
So here's the context to this real quick of the reason why they removed it.
So just so you know, the video we're about to watch, they removed, they removed.
Why did they remove it?
Because of a Facebook post of mine?
Who am I?
Who am I?
What does my opinion matter to anybody?
But there was a content.
It was the content of your opinion, not who you are.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's just to me, it just it doesn't make sense of why they removed it because.
Let's watch it, Abel.
Let's watch it.
Yeah, I'm just showing you that this is the Facebook post.
This is the Facebook post I basically said here.
Abel, I want to watch the video, OK?
Then we can talk about your Facebook post.
OK, OK, OK.
Yeah, go back to the bean.
Mr. Long, thank you for your questions.
I'm going to exercise the prerogative to answer a couple follow-up questions that would certainly make that opportunity available to anybody who would like to as well or not.
But, Ms.
Callahan, you spent some time talking about the circumstances in Michigan and about some protections, and I know if you haven't stated it today, I've spent time going through your written testimony and other sorts of things, and I know you suggest that this is an anomalous circumstance.
This is being identified as an event that happened, but maybe the statement would be, but it wouldn't happen today.
You have a moment.
Tell me how you have cured that kind of a circumstance and how we would not have a repeat where there is an incident that occurs in which the government begins to be looking for the information that was disseminated, collected and disseminated in Michigan.
Yes, thank you, sir.
To clarify slightly, that information was never disseminated.
It was never a live report.
It does not meet the standards of the Privacy Impact Assessments, and it would not have actually been done.
It was an early example of what could possibly be done, and together with the National Operations Center, we both agreed that we don't care about First Amendment speech.
We don't care about the events.
Well, you do care.
What you're trying to say is that's not what you're inquiring about.
We care about the events, not the First Amendment elements.
Right, we care about the events.
And candidly, even in that example, Guantanamo Bay and the transition of any prisoners from Guantanamo Bay is actually not within the Homeland Security mission.
And so it wouldn't even have met that threshold question.
That's the current threshold standard that we implemented since January 2010 of making sure it's a Homeland Security mission and then it's an event or a situation.
So for those two, that's kind of a threshold point.
We then would not, as I said, no element of First Amendment protected speech is collected, disseminated, or analyzed.
We also make sure that, as I said, I review the media monitoring reports when I receive them to make sure that they continue to be compliant, that we're only reporting on the what and not the who.
And so I think all of these multiple levels are an example of why that Standish Mission to Get an Example is an anomaly.
It's obsolete, it only is in the handbook that was done that's two years old, Well, let me go back then to prospectively, where we may be looking at other kinds of events, as you say, the who but the what.
Now, I know there were some attempts to look at things like the Olympics.
There was an effort to track information that may be related to that.
I can foresee a number of other events.
Conventions.
Are you going to be monitoring activity around conventions?
Again, I turn it over to Mr. Chavez, but we do monitor national security special events to make sure, for example, we monitor the Super Bowl.
But again, it is not about the who, but it's about the what.
How are the roads moving?
How are the processes?
Are there any suspicious activities?
You're not calling into place for Bill Belichick, are you?
I abstain on who I was supporting in the Super Bowl, but it's the what?
It's the event.
Holistically, we're monitoring the whole Homeland Security enterprise, not just the events, and we are looking for the same, again, keywords, criteria that would indicate any type of action.
When I come back, you keep saying keywords.
What I'm trying to get to is who begins the process of identifying what should be analyzed.
This is, I get the what, not the who, but who is it that is saying to go after the what?
I don't know where this has begun.
Right.
It's not the National Operations Center.
Again, the National Operations Center is the messenger.
We receive the information.
Then who is giving the direction?
I want your analysts to look into X. Where does that come from?
That, again, does not count for the National Operations Center.
If I can just step back for a second, sir.
The National Operations Center is to provide situational awareness for the entire homeland security enterprise.
The way that we implemented the social media initiative was to provide these keywords that you can use on commercially available software that you can basically refine, not see individual tweets, but see what's trending, what's happening.
And if there are elements.
Those keywords, as I said, are disclosed in my privacy impact assessment.
But when your analysts start work in the morning, do they just pick up a keyword book and start going out looking for it?
No, it's programmed in all the time, is what I was going to say.
It's programmed in all the time.
We don't modify the keywords.
They're disaster, flood, tornado, train wreck, derailment, those sorts of things.
But you keep talking to me about incidents that are natural disasters, and I get that.
We're going to put that aside.
Part of the mission here was to monitor activities that maybe were homeland security.
We're worried about the potential that there could be somebody acting in some capacity that would threaten our homeland and cause harm to American citizens.
I get that, too.
We're also worried about the fine line on which people may be talking about things they don't like about their government.
It's legitimate protest.
So where are there activities that are taking place that could be a collaboration of individuals from outside the country
that are meeting at a convention from all over the world.
But does somebody say, hey, let's watch what is happening there?
I need to know where this process begins.
Who is telling people to track the what?
The individual government agencies we provide, we will call them our customers, are the ones
who determine whether or not the data is actionable or not, whether or not to pursue a follow-up,
each of those executing their own authorities to do the investigations, to collect intelligence
and those type things.
Often, again, the reports we provide through the social media monitoring are a supplement to, again, the information to these organizations.
So it might be a legitimate investigative agency that has the capacity to, in their own right, but using legitimate investigative tools and protections.
They're asking you to get secondary publicly available information that fills a gap or something of some sort?
Most definitely.
And again, once the reports come in, we very seldom get direction from an outside organization to look for specific things, because under their own authorities, they can drill down farther than the National Operations Center can on information that was provided.
Where does the top of the line come from?
Is this a career professional that makes these decisions, or is it a public appointee in the DHS who may be overseeing what is being looked at?
Let me take an example of the intelligence field with their skill sets that they have in the enterprise.
There are individuals, both political appointees, senior officials, again, that take a look at the information that they have and decide whether or not to take action on it, to pursue investigations, to open up whatever, again, under their authorities they can do to defend the homeland.
and produce that information, those reports.
If I could just summarize, sir.
The situational awareness initiative we've been talking about is essentially breaking news.
Here's what's happening.
And then to your point, if indeed someone receives a report of breaking news
and they have the underlying authority to investigate it, then they go off on their own track and the operations,
nor does the Privacy Office know that they're doing it separate and apart from we're going to do audits and
reviews of social media when the management directive is final.
So it's, they're breaking news, and then there are other authorities in the department, and also throughout the federal government.
Final question.
Breaking news.
Attorney General just decides he's going to try a Guantanamo detainee in New York City.
There's a lot of news about that now.
Is it possible that you would be contacted by somebody and said, follow what's happening, report to us what the reaction is to that?
In the history of the time I have been at the National Operations Center, no, sir, that has never happened.
And what would be your protection against that kind of request?
How do you tell a political appointee who's high up in an administration that's not appropriate for us to monitor?
Not only appropriate, it's not under our authority.
It's illegal to do that.
Well, that's a good answer to any kind of a political appointee.
At this point, I've gone well over my time.
Mr. Thompson, do you have some?
Yes.
Stop sharing, Abel, so we can converse here a bit.
I just wanted to show.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the reason why they took that, that video got deleted.
Off of the Homeland Security's page, because, and if you want to go watch that video yourself, it's bit.ly slash dhs dash removed dash one.
And they removed that video because I literally left my opinion where I, on a Facebook post, where I start off saying, okay, I am speculating a little here.
And they got rid of that video because of that.
Um, I just basically said confirming everyone must check in, uh, saying there's a tragedy, being from Department of Homeland Security themselves, Monty Frank, uh, throws a tantrum, the video's priceless, it affects mostly the facts, they, no, what am I, um, learning DHS was going, this is what, here it is, learning that DHS was going for this in February 2012 really interests me because soon after that legal propaganda was put into play, that, that's the Smith month I was talking about at the time, um, As long as it didn't sway public opinion, which is why what they're doing is illegal.
Which is why what they're doing is illegal, although it's not because it's a real narrative.
But this is what made to cover their ass long... This is messy.
I don't even know why they censored it because of this.
This doesn't even sound like I'm making sense.
Basically, I just said, DHS... This is the main part of the post.
DHS video to track keywords.
And I left the YouTube link.
And that's why they censored that video.
Well, you're speculating, but it's not impossible.
I wouldn't know the probability, but let's, yeah, let's stop screen sharing so we can converse.
How do we?
Just down at the bottom, just stop, or top.
Yeah, just do stop sharing.
Oh, there it is.
I see it's on the right.
Oh, very good.
Very good.
Now listen, Abel, Abel.
I think your name is appropriate because you're very able and you're doing a lot of good stuff.
Every now and then we might have a difference to interpret.
That's not significant.
What's good is you're laying out a lot of stuff you did a long time ago that may not have received the attention it deserved.
I'm glad for us to have this opportunity because I'm back in the saddle.
I'm in the midst of several legal operations.
Remington is trying to fold, give $33 million to nine Sandy Hook parents.
There's the case in Connecticut where I've sought to intervene, and the judge, even though I explained that I am here to be the only one who cares about whether or not 20 children and six adults actually died at Sandy Hook, that there's no discovery, no effort, other than a perfunctory that was going to be sealed.
And where the judge rejected my motion, which I'm now going to appeal, but also where in Alabama there's a bankruptcy involving Remington and where I'm pointing out that there's never been a judicial determination that anybody died at Sandy Hook.
And that the official report by Steven Sidenski III is a forensic failure because it doesn't create a causal nexus.
It ties together the alleged shooter, Adam Lanza, with his alleged victims, including his mother, and then all the targets at Sandy Hook.
And the weapons he's alleged to use.
No, his fingerprints weren't on the .22 caliber rifle he's supposed to have shot his mother.
They had 150 slugs in the classroom there in San Diego.
In footnote 53, they explained they couldn't match any of the slugs to the weapon.
So they say that it's possible it could have been, but you know, there are 5 million AR-15s out there.
It's possible any of those 5 million AR-15s could have been used.
Somebody could have stole it, run to Sandy Hook, use it.
The point is they don't have any proof.
This would have been a failure in the court of law.
You could not have convicted anyone based on the evidence, and yet most people think Steven Sinitsky, the third with his final report, answered the question of whether anyone died at Sandy Hook.
He did not.
I really like what you're doing here and I'm delighted.
This is just a first of what will be an ongoing series.
Do you have some closing thoughts of your own?
Yeah.
Just to expand on what you said about Remington that they um,
I was gonna say they, oh I had it.
I forgot what I was going to say.
Remington.
Oh, that's right.
In one of the articles, I noticed that they were saying that because of the conspiracy theorists, they think that no children died.
They're saying that this case with Remington, that Remington won and has to pay the 33.
By the way, 33 is a Freemason number.
If you pay attention to all the numbers and all the news, you'll see 33 a lot.
Pay attention.
But the 33 million, you'll see in that article, it says that because Remington lost, they're using that as proof Sandy Hook was real.
Well, of course, that's a point I've made in the court, that this is an ongoing, it is proving people were falsely informed.
It was because the shooting was real when all the evidence substantiated it was fake.
Mm-hmm.
Abel, I can't thank you enough for this first installment, and I emphasize we're going to do other interviews here on The Real Deal.
I have so much, and that's just one article.
That's one article.
I'm delighted we're in contact, and that you called me up today, because here we are.
I know, man.
This is just the beginning.
Fantastic, man.
Thank you for having me so much.
I appreciate it.
My pleasure.
So this is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal, thanking my special guest today, Abel 1212, for giving us an introduction to all of his research.
He was there at the time.
He was Johnny on the spot.
He was dealing with a lot of important issues.
To be continued.
Thank you all for watching, and special thanks to Abel 1212 for being here with us today.
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