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Goldfish Report 9/11 Special (5 September 2021)

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	Today is Monday, Labor Day in the USA, September 6, 2021.
	This is Goldfish Report number 766, and this is a special political theater report.
	And just as an announcement, our political theater reports will change our format.
	We will be presenting our political theater reports less often, but they will be special reports. So you don't want
	to miss it. So you want to keep watching and checking in. And today we are going to be talking about
	9-11, what really happened. And joining me is, of course, the most dangerous mind in
	America, my friend, the Feds. How are you, Jim?
	Well, Louisa, it's actually fascinating what's taking place here with the catastrophic withdrawal
	from Afghanistan, because the Taliban have claimed there is no proof that Osama bin Laden had
	anything to do with it.
	And the fact of the matter is they're completely correct.
	In the aftermath, when the American government demanded they turn over Osama, they said they would be glad to do so.
	This is the Taliban.
	If America could produce proof that he had been involved in 9-11, We could not do that because he hadn't, but we went ahead and invaded Afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 nevertheless.
	Nick Kohlerstrom, among others, has done a brilliant piece about Osama, who actually was our man in Afghanistan.
	He was instrumental in getting Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen, which they used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and tanks and drive the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan.
	He was an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman, and an official from the agency actually visited him in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death on 15 December 2001 from his medical maladies.
	It's tough getting those dialysis machines in and out of those caves in Afghanistan.
	There are local obituaries where he was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
	By the 26th of December, 2001, Fox News and CNN had both caught up with the news and reported that Osama was dead.
	David Ray Griffin actually has a whole book about it, Osama Bin Laden Dead or Alive.
	But it was politically expedient for Barack Obama to resurrect him and have him die again in a completely staged fake raid on a compound in Afghanistan.
	Very, very embarrassing, if you know the truth.
	But it had the effect of positioning himself for a triumphal re-election as the president who got the most wanted man in the world, who'd already been dead for a decade.
	Meanwhile, we have a brand new development reported this weekend.
	On the eve of the 20th observance of the 9-11 attack, Richard Gage, who's been the head of architects and engineers, here described as the largest 9-11 truth group in the world, has resigned.
	Now that may sound like a blow against 9-11 truth, but in fact it's actually an advance for reasons I'm going to explain here.
	This is an issue which I shall return in the conclusion where you already understand now why Richard Gage has been involved in promoting a false theory about 9-11 and how the Twin Towers were destroyed, and has been unwilling to talk about who is responsible and why, in the absence of a narrative of which none of this means anything to America.
	So that the furthest Gage has gone is talk about Building 7, which came down at 5.20 in the afternoon in a classic controlled demolition, as Dan Rather himself was reporting live at the time.
	So in my opinion, Richard Gage has not made any advance in 9-11 truth over what Dan Rather was already reporting on 9-11.
	So today, Louisa, with you, I'm delighted, as the founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truths, in December of 2005, to address what happened on 9-11, who is responsible, and why.
	Let me begin by taking us back to that very, very day.
	We'll need to make sure we have the soundtrack connected, Louisa.
	I apologize for this, but I didn't have it connected, yes.
	Okay.
	Here we go on nine 11.
	You might've been watching a rerun of mash.
	and here's what happened.
	Actually, I can't hear it.
	I I
	I can't hear it at all, Jim.
	Is there sound on that?
	Jim?
	I'm sorry?
	Is there sound on that?
	Yeah, you can't hear it?
	Nothing at all.
	Maybe you could turn it up.
	Hold on, I'm gonna pause this.
	Okay, I paused it.
	I don't know if you're paused on your end, but I paused it on my end, the recording, just so we could work.
	Let me know when to. Okay.
	Is the let me give you the is the actual view. I can hear it.
	Watching. Yeah, here's, here's what might have happened.
	You might have seen.
	Alright. No second player.
	It was a bomb.
	Bombing another building.
	Not second plane.
	It was a bomb.
	We say the second plane.
	That's what we're told, the second plane.
	We saw it on television.
	No, but I do everything.
	Alright, thanks a lot.
	This is...
	...idea of how much of the plane actually impacted the building.
	You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	The only site is the actual site of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left...
	That you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand.
	There are no large tail sections, wing sections, a fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
	Now, even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon, you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happen immediately.
	It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
	Jeff, it's a United Airlines plane.
	It's believed to be at that site outside Pittsburgh, isn't it?
	That's exactly right, John, with 45 people total on board.
	And one of the more profound things today, the imprint of terrorism seared, not only on Wall Street, but also on Main Street.
	Here you have an area 80 miles to the southeast of Pittsburgh, and this plane which went down at about 10 o'clock this morning.
	We have rescue vehicles that came in earlier in the day, and they have turned up nothing.
	No one believed to be alive from this crash.
	Some of the media just getting back to the scene, which is about A quarter of a mile up on a hill back behind me, and so some of the first pictures just starting to come in within the last hour.
	I want to get quickly to Chris Konicki.
	He's a photographer with the Pittsburgh affiliate of Fox Affiliate.
	He was back there just a couple of minutes ago, and Chris, I've seen the pictures.
	It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground.
	Basically, that's right.
	The only thing you could see from where we were was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees.
	We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see, there wasn't much left.
	Any large pieces of debris at all?
	No, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
	Smoke, fire?
	Nothing, it was absolutely quiet, it was actually very quiet.
	Nothing going on down there, no smoke, no fire, just a couple of people walking around, they looked like part of the NTSB crew, walking around, looking at the pieces.
	How big would you say that hole was?
	Uh, from my estimates, I would guess it was probably about 20 to 15 feet.
	Uh, long and probably about 10 feet long, or 10 feet wide.
	What could you see on the ground, if anything, other than dirt and ash and... You couldn't see anything.
	You could just see dirt, ash, and people walking around, broken trees.
	...says that City Hall in Oakland will remain open.
	It will be business as usual.
	He is urging people to remain calm.
	Given what is going on, remain calm.
	Oakland City Hall will remain open, but in San Francisco, City Hall has been closed.
	Just getting word here now that a second United Airlines jet, Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles is now missing.
	Again, if you're just joining us, there have been four separate plane crashes.
	Three of those planes were en route to California.
	Two were heading to LAX.
	The third was heading to San Francisco International Airport.
	That was specifically the one heading to SFO United flight number 93 from Newark to SFO.
	It apparently crashed in Pennsylvania, fairly close to the border of Maryland and not too far from Camp David.
	Why is that significant?
	Because one of the groups possibly claiming responsibility for all these terrorist attacks is the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
	And it was this week in 1978 that the Camp David Accords were reached.
	Is there a connection?
	At this point we don't know, but it is important to be aware of that situation.
	In Washington, D.C., many congressional leaders have been transferred to a secret location.
	Some senators have described this as a second Pearl Harbor.
	And President Bush was in Florida this morning, but he made a brief announcement when the first attacks were clear on the World Trade Center, and he was heading back to Washington, D.C.
	At this point, we don't know exactly where he is.
	They're trying... They're not really broadcasting that information, but we are told that the president is safe right now.
	We're waiting for a press conference to start in San Francisco from the Office of Emergency Services to discuss what the situation, what the city's reaction to all of this is going to be.
	But again, right now in San Francisco...
	Well, Louisa, there's several themes there that are very important.
	Notice, no signs that a plane had crashed in Shanksville.
	No evidence a plane had hit the Pentagon.
	The claim was being made already that Palestinians were responsible, all of which was complete and utter nonsense.
	Just to get an insight about what was actually taking place.
	Here are the four official routes of the planes, where they all originated from airports where security was provided by ICTS, which just happens to be an Israeli security firm.
	So we'll address what more this means.
	So you got a hole in the ground about 10 by 15 or 20.
	Well, the aircraft has a 125-foot wingspan.
	It has a tail that stands 44 feet above the ground.
	When you see no evidence, and two reporters at the scene both affirmed that the eerie aspect of the crash site was there was no sign that any plane had crashed there.
	You're entitled to infer the obvious.
	We're often told you can't prove a negative, but that's false.
	You can prove there's no elephant in your living room by going there right now and looking for signs of the presence of elephant.
	Detecting none, you're entitled to infer that's because there's no elephant there, which is a negative.
	Here you look at a crash site where a plane is alleged to have crashed and there are no signs that any plane had crashed there, you're entitled to infer the obvious.
	That's because no plane had crashed there.
	Here you see what actually you would have observed had it been a real plane crash in Amsterdam, Russia, even Missouri, versus Shanksville.
	And even that smoke may be an add-on.
	Here you have Chris Konecki who is making the observation during the interview we already heard, but he was not alone.
	Other reporters said the same thing.
	Now, apologists for the government have offered the frankly absurd idea that this was an area where mining had taken place and that the plane had crashed into an abandoned mine shaft.
	Louisa, take a look!
	And it is, according to the official account, the case a plane crashed upside down after having been commandeered by alleged passengers aboard Part of the heroic tale for this complete myth about 9-11.
	But the reason we know this is ridiculous, Louisa, among many others...
	Is that we know what to do with miners trapped in mine shafts.
	We bring out the bright lights and the heavy equipment in the hope that by some miracle, someone might have survived.
	But we didn't do that here, even though there were 45 souls aboard the plane.
	And by the way, it's one of the curiosities here that all four of these aircraft were only about one quarter full.
	How can American or United Airlines stay in business commercially, since these were all transcontinental flights, if they only have one quarter of their passengers?
	Louisa, it's just ridiculous.
	You're lucky to get an extra seat next to you on a transcontinental flight here in the United States.
	That just doesn't happen.
	That's right, that's right.
	Now on the far left, you see a photograph allegedly taken by a resident by name of Val McClatchy.
	And you see what appears to be, you know, smoke rising from a location.
	But get this, it doesn't look like the smoke we'd have from a plane crash would be dark black as on the far right.
	Not only that, it looks a great deal like smoke from an explosion as in the center.
	But moreover, Louisa, geographically it's wrong.
	That smoke is rising from over a pond, whereas a plane, as you can see, is alleged to have crashed into the ground.
	Here's the kind of effect you'd have from a real plane crash.
	Obviously, completely different.
	Suggesting the photograph was a fabrication.
	Meanwhile, get this!
	Flight 93 was still airborne after its alleged crash.
	Pilots for 9-11 have made a number of brilliant contributions to the study of 9-11, including discerning, based upon air-ground communications at Flight 93, Was over Champaign-Urbana, Illinois, after it had officially crashed in Shanksville.
	And I'll offer further evidence and substantiation of their point, Louisa.
	In other words, Flight 93 didn't crash.
	That's why there's no evidence of a plane crash there, and why they even had to fake an alleged photograph of the explosion.
	Your thoughts?
	I say trust your own eyes.
	You know, this goes to show how incredibly, I don't know, I would say naive people are, but how effective the propaganda is, Jim, to control what you're seeing.
	They're telling you what you're seeing.
	How is it?
	As it was happening, the media had everything known.
	They knew exactly what the flight was, they had all the details so quick.
	Just as it was going live, they had all those details.
	Really?
	What incredible reporting work that was, Jim.
	Let me tell you, it's just... keep going, keep going.
	That's great, Louisa, that's great.
	Now look, the Pentagon is probably the most heavily surveyed building in the world.
	And yet they only released five frames.
	You see four of them here from a surveillance camera, when they ought to have had dozens upon dozens upon dozens.
	If you notice in the top left, there's a frame that's conveniently labeled plane.
	And if you look here, right above the gate mechanism, there does appear to be something that looks rather like a plane.
	The others are all the increasing size of the fireball.
	And you're going to be astonished when I explain that even that, even those fireballs appear to be fake.
	Notice too, there's the wrong date time stamp on this footage.
	In other words, the good reason to believe all of this is fake.
	Now I asked my dear friend and collaborator from JFK Research, Jack White, if he could size the image of a Boeing 757 to that of the alleged plane, which he did.
	And you'll notice, you see, in order to compensate for forms of visual distortion, you have here accurate correction for the tilt.
	The plane, had it actually been a Boeing 757, would have been more than twice the size of what we see above that gate mechanism.
	Moreover, Pilots have explained to me that White Trail could not be the exhaust from a jet plane, which would be black, but could be from the firing of a missile into the building, which appears to have been done using an unmanned aerial vehicle known as a Global Hawk.
	So this is further very telling evidence.
	Plus, when you look at the hit side, it's only about 10 feet high, 15 feet wide.
	There's chain link fence, a couple automobiles, two large spools, a cable, unbroken windows.
	That's what you have.
	What you don't have is a massive pile of aluminum debris from a 100-ton airliner.
	No bodies, no seats, no luggage, no wings, no tail.
	Louisa!
	Not even the engines were recovered, where they're virtually indestructible.
	And you can see, looking at the facade, there's no entry point for the engines to have made.
	Now, about 45 minutes later, as Jamie McIntyre would explain, a section of the building came down.
	My opinion, Louisa, is that Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, looked at the imagery and didn't think it looked sufficiently serious to have been caused by a plane.
	So he directed that a part of the building be brought down.
	But that didn't happen for 45 more minutes.
	Now, the reason I suspect those fireballs are fake is look at this.
	They're doing an excavation of that area where the building came down, and there are no signs of any fire damage.
	Louisa, look here!
	Unlike the fourth floor, this appears to be the Stanford-Oxford unabridged dictionary, which is made of wood.
	No sign of any damage.
	No sign of any fireball.
	Now, according to the official account, this Boeing 757 came in barely skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour, Louisa.
	Over 400 miles an hour.
	Louisa over 400 miles an hour. Now, aeronautical engineers and pilots have explained to me
	at that speed, that airplane, because of what's known as downdraft, sometimes known as ground
	effect, could not have got closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground, where 80 feet is higher
	than the Pentagon at 71 feet is tall.
	So the entire official narrative is not even aerodynamically possible.
	And when you look for debris, there's none there.
	There's none there.
	Two civilian lime green firetrucks were in the vicinity and responded immediately to extinguish the very modest fires that remained.
	But notice how the Pentagon lawn is completely free of any debris, completely free of any debris, and would remain so for nearly 45 minutes.
	Here's another from the BBC.
	Completely free of debris.
	The BBC, of course, the BBC.
	Here's another.
	Here's another from the BBC.
	Like CNN.
	This is even after that section of the building had collapsed.
	Where is the Boeing?
	Where is the plane?
	It ain't there!
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Man, this is just such a pathetic cover-up.
	Remarkably, Louisa DeVrie did begin showing up later, of which this is by far the most interesting example.
	Notice now, this is a piece from a fuselage of a Boeing 757.
	But does it appear to you to have been involved in a violent collision where the plane would have been crumpled?
	No.
	Does it appear to have been exposed to an intense fire?
	No.
	But interestingly enough, notice here, entwined in this piece of fuselage is a segment of a vine not indigenous to the Arlington, Virginia area.
	So what's going on?
	There's a close-up of the vine.
	Very strange.
	How is this to be explained?
	Well, an attorney retired from Columbus, Ohio by the name of James Hansen realized the Boeing 757 has a wonderful safety record, and he tracked down this piece of debris to a crash near Cali, Columbia, get this, in 1995, where the pilots lost their way, crashing into the side of a mountain while passing through a jungle where these vines are indigenous.
	So it appears that the salvage crew, which turns out interestingly enough to have been Israeli, took this piece of debris and held it in abeyance until it could be used on 9-11, planted on the Pentagon lawn.
	Now the BBC came to interview me, stayed here for eight hours for the first of their conspiracy file series about 9-11, and then used seven and a half minutes of me with like three minutes Of Dylan Avery, who produced Lose Change, and four and a half minutes of Alex Jones.
	So Dylan was a snot-nosed kid.
	Alex, a messianic preacher, and I, the kooky professor, I suggested, and of the hundred arguments I gave, this is the one they used, that the debris had been dropped from a C-130 that was circling the building.
	So they interviewed the pilot, who declared not that it was false, but that it was absurd.
	In my opinion, however, it would have been too difficult for officers and enlisted men to bring pieces of debris out onto the building.
	Another aspect, by the way, very telling is that in this approach, barely skimming the ground, the plane is alleged to have hit a series of stationary lampposts en route to hitting the impact with a bionic arm.
	Now, let me observe that by Newton's third law, equal and opposite, the impact of an aluminum plane traveling over 400 miles an hour hitting a stationary lamppost would be the equivalent if the plane had been stationary and hit by lampposts traveling over 400 miles an hour.
	It would have ripped open the wings where the fuel is stored, which would have mixed with air and exploded and caused debris to be distributed all over the Pentagon lawn.
	But as we can tell, that did not happen.
	Not only is the approach aerodynamically impossible, but the claim to have hit the series of lampposts is equally physically preposterous.
	A couple of researchers who call themselves Citizens Investigative Team discovered that there were witnesses at a CITGO station here.
	In between the nearby the official trajectory who claimed to have seen a plane approach the building.
	Now what's interesting is their witness reports are shown by the yellow lines, the official account by the green.
	So the approach was north of the Sitco station when it ought to have been south.
	They all thought that it had hit the building, but it turns out that a plane actually was flown toward the building and then swerved over it.
	At the same time, explosions were set off to create the impression that it had hit the building.
	A dear friend of mine, Roy Schaefer from JFK Research, had a trucker buddy by the name of David Ball, who was in front of the Pentagon at the time, who told Roy, how he watched a plane fly toward the building and then swerve over it.
	I told Roy we needed to keep Dave safe.
	He should come on the air with me and present his story.
	Roy went back to check with Dave, who was reluctant to do it.
	I explained to Roy that it's too important to get his story out.
	It'd be much safer.
	And the next I knew, Roy was reporting to me David had been found dead in an abandoned building.
	Meanwhile, the Pentagon has these five different circles.
	Actually, the Pentagon.
	Five different stages.
	E, D, C, B, A wings.
	And on C, there was a hole Which turns out to be virtually completely symmetrical, allegedly caused by a part of the plane.
	So this is supposed to be evidence substantiating a real plane had really hit the Pentagon.
	But if you look at the spray painted on there, it says, punch out.
	And witnesses at the time said they smelled cordite, which is a familiar military explosive.
	And if it had been hit, since it was being hit at an angle by a heavy object like a landing gear, it would not have been symmetrical.
	So this appears to be more fabricated evidence.
	We already saw Jamie McIntyre, who is the lead reporter for CNN, reporting from his close-up inspection there was no sign that a large plane had hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
	Jamie would be pressured by his bosses to make a retraction, which he did in the following way.
	He said only a fool would deny that a plane had hit the Pentagon.
	He'd been a fool to report the truth, not realizing that was not what they wanted from him that day.
	And he subsequently retired from CNN.
	I think he was wary of promoting propaganda.
	Meanwhile, April Gallup, who was a civilian employee in the building, said the explosion took place just as she hit her computer key, that she brought her infant there that day, that they stepped out of the hole and there were no signs of any plane anywhere in the vicinity.
	Meanwhile, Former Major General Albert Stolbein, U.S.
	Army retired, a very significant figure because he was in charge of all U.S.
	military, including signals or photographic intelligence, gave an interview to a reporter in Germany Of how he knew that no plane had hit the Pentagon, describing how the facade of the Pentagon is limestone, which is a relatively soft, porous stone, and that it would have received the impact.
	More significantly, Louisa, I did a lengthy interview with General Stubblebine, reviewing the evidence I have, that no plane, none of the 9-11 aircraft had actually crashed at any of the alleged sites.
	General Stubblebine not only agreed with me about all four cases, but offered additional reasons why I was right.
	So I'm a huge fan.
	Now, later in the morning, when there was a rumor that the Capitol was next, members of the House and Senate went out onto the Capitol steps, looked across the Potomac, and saw billowing black smoke.
	Well, I knew that those lime green civilian fire trucks had already extinguished the very modest fires that were present at the time, leading me to investigate where that smoke was coming from, which turned out to be a series of enormous dumpsters in front of the Pentagon.
	In other words, this was another Hollywood-style theatrical event.
	Talk about political theater, Louisa.
	All of 9-11 was political theater.
	And let me add one more comment before yours.
	A researcher at the time who was a member of Scholars came through and visited with me in Duluth and showed me 44 more frames where you could actually see light between the dumpsters and the building.
	This was an elaborate charade.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, it's hard for people to really get their mind around the fact that this was an inside job in coordination with outside forces, but not the ones they're telling us.
	First of all, you know, this whole idea, let's go back for a minute to this idea of this someone commandeering a plane To, you know, fly just above the surface of the ground at 400 miles an hour is just Super Mario Brothers.
	I mean, you know, if you play Super Mario Brothers, this is, you know, only people who play these video games would believe that, because you can do that in, you know, in virtual games, virtual reality games, right?
	But not in the real world, because in reality, that Aerodynamically can't happen and I know you're probably going to get to the affidavit of John Lear at some point in your in your presentation.
	Uh, Jim, but, but, but, and you're probably also going to talk about the fact that the section of the Pentagon that had collapsed, right?
	So Rumsfeld said, oh, those files about the 21 missing trillion dollars that I announced yesterday haven't been destroyed.
	You could still probably access them.
	So let's collapse the building.
	And that's exactly, apparently, as you were suggesting before, what, what happened, because that is, uh, apparently it's been reported, Jim, And maybe you can tell me what you know about it, that that section of the Pentagon did in fact contain the accounting for that missing $21 trillion.
	Well, you're making three excellent points, Louisa.
	Number one, The John Lear Affidavit is available at the Scholars Discussion Site, which is 911scholars.ning.com.
	You can do a search for the John Lear Affidavit.
	John Lear is our nation's leading pilot.
	He still owns some 15 international speed records for flight.
	He was qualified in all areas of maintenance.
	Piloting in Technology, and he affirmed how, not in relation to the Pentagon or Shanksville, but in relation to the South Tower, that would have been aerodynamically impossible for that flight to take place, which is a matter we shall address by and by.
	And yes, too, Donald Rumsfeld announced on Monday, the day before, 9-10, prior to 9-11, that the Pentagon was missing $2.3 trillion from its budget.
	And it appears that this was something that an experienced politician would not do, because announcing a big story like that early in the week, it's going to get legs, as they call it, and grow.
	Unless he knew something was going to intervene that would obliterate from consciousness what he just announced, so that he could waltz into Congress and ask for hundreds of millions more in additional defense spending, which is exactly what happened.
	Third, another excellent point.
	That wing of the Pentagon had recently been reinforced.
	It was the only wing of the Pentagon to undergo renovation, and that meant it was largely bereft of personnel records and files, except Donald Rumsfeld appears to have directed the section chief to bring all the records, all the documents for the missing $2.3 trillion Into the West Wing where they could be conveniently obliterated by the missile fired by the unmanned aerial vehicle, as I've already described.
	In fact, when I looked at the reported victim list from the Pentagon, Louisa, I was astonished.
	There were three dozen accountants, budgetary experts, financial analysts who apparently have been consigned to their death by Donald Rumsfeld to conceal the records, and where let me at?
	The chief financial officer for the Pentagon at the time, the controller, Dov Zorkheim, was not only a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, but had his own company to manufacture remote control devices for aircraft.
	Well, I believe the original plan was to use remotely controlled drones to hit the North and the South Tower until they discovered that it was physically impossible for the planes to make entry, given the design, and that they would have crumbled external to the building, which led them to have to design a very innovative approach, which I shall explain in detail.
	Excellent, excellent questions you raise.
	Jim, it's just, I don't know, so clear.
	It's just crystal clear.
	It's so clear, the evidence that you're presenting, that these are the facts from that day, but completely contrary to what the official narrative, what the propaganda was that we were fed.
	It's unbelievable.
	I don't know if it's as crystal clear to our viewers.
	I'd like to hear Their comments in the description, you know, in the comment section because it's so entirely crystal clear that the people who run this country are not who we think they are and the agenda overall is not at all what we think they are.
	In fact, what they tell you, you can basically count on it being the opposite of exactly what they're telling you because Why, what are they doing with this money so I had heard that the Kevin Austin Fitz used a number around 21 trillion in total, but that's, that's only a portion of it, Donald Rumsfeld had announced the day before 911, but she has come up with a figure, much larger.
	Do you know what the difference is in the discrepancy?
	No, Louise, I don't, but the point is that historically he announced a missing $2.3 trillion, which would have been a huge story at the time.
	Absolutely.
	Let me add that I benefited, of course, from founding an international organization that took off like a rocket.
	Well, we had experts from many different fields, pilots, aeronautical engineers, mechanical, structural, civil, physicists.
	I mean, we had somewhere between 400 and 600 members by the end of 2006.
	In fact, the organization was so successful that those who would turn out to be allied with Richard Gade felt they had to Break it apart because we were revealing too many truths about 9-11.
	Let me continue to explain the historical circumstances here that are so vital.
	Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Umar, both prime ministers of Israel, but Bibi in particular, organized a conference about terrorism and published a book, the cover of which you can see here, in Israel, in Tel Aviv, in the 1980s.
	In the 1980s.
	This was before terrorism was in the consciousness of anyone.
	Meanwhile, we had the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, where the United States entered into solemn agreements that no effort would be made to militarize or politicize Eastern Bloc nations, where the United States and NATO have now established a series of missile batteries allegedly to defend against an imaginary attack from Iran, but actually encircling Russia and grossly violating our most solemn agreements One more reason why the word of the United States today in international diplomacy is worthless.
	Well, with that disillusion, there came into existence what was known as the Project for a New American Century that was made up of a host of neocons who were primarily U.S.-Israeli dual citizens whom George Bush and Dick Cheney would bring into the Department of Defense Once they became elected with a fraud that took place in Florida that's been overwhelmed by the massive fraud of 2020.
	But it was just as important in 2000 to get Bush and Cheney into office to bring us 9-11.
	And the Patriot Act, as it was in 2020, to get Biden and Harris into office to promote the coronavirus, southern border intrusion, an influx, other ways of destroying America from within.
	One of the documents from the Project for a New American Century was especially telling, namely, rebuilding America's defenses.
	Look at the lower left.
	The process of transformation.
	Remember now, you see, they're arguing there's an opportunity here to create a new Worldwide American empire that would endure for the next hundred years if only the United States were to move aggressively and introduce military forces into the geopolitically sensitive region of the Middle East from which it could exert military and diplomatic pressure.
	This being a unique opportunity afforded by the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
	They wrote The process of transformation, meaning coming to the realization there was this opportunity, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor.
	You recall in our opening, the anchor was reporting somewhere we're describing this as a new Pearl Harbor.
	Well, of course, it had been designed as a new Pearl Harbor in order to draw U.S.
	forces into the Middle East and do the dirty work for Israel.
	Wesley Clark, who had returned to the Pentagon after 9-11, having served as a Supreme Commander, Allied Forces Europe, which meant he was the commanding general of NATO, Encountered a general he knew who told him we were about to invade Iraq.
	Which they both thought was very, very puzzling because Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
	The story I'm given is, with all the talk about Afghanistan, Donald Rumsfeld was unimpressed because he thought Iraq was a target-rich environment that Afghanistan was not.
	I mean, this reflects the superficiality, the stunning stupidity and gross motives at work here.
	Where Wesley Clark asked the General to keep him informed, and when he returned a month or so later, he asked if we were still planning to invade Iraq.
	And the General said, oh no sir, it's much worse, and called him into his office and said he just received a memorandum from the Secretary of Defense that the plan now was to invade and overthrow the governments of seven countries in the next five years.
	Beginning with Iraq and Libya, ending with Syria, and then confronting the Persian nation of Iran.
	In other words, to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region, and eventually to confront their nemesis, Iran, which is the great power there that actually has the ability and resources to dispute Israeli dominance of the Middle East.
	Well, on October 3rd of 2007, Wesley Clark revealed all this at the Commonwealth Club of California.
	Might have been a good idea for Wesley to have spoken up earlier.
	Here are some of the key players from the Department of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, who were among the leading neocons who championed the invasion.
	Let's turn now to New York.
	These buildings, construction of which began in 1966, had won many awards for architectural design and engineering.
	They were a tube within a tube.
	There were 47 massive core columns at their center, which were then connected to 213 external steel support columns, creating all this open office space.
	It was a very innovative, very robust design.
	In fact, it is fascinating in terms of the engineering, that in the sub-basements, the steel was as thick as 6 inches, then tapered off 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, such that at the very top, it was only a quarter of an inch thick.
	Which will be significant when we get the theory that it was a collapse of the top part of the building that brought about the demolition of the rest, which turns out to be a physical absurdity.
	Not only were the Twin Towers destroyed, but five other buildings which made up the entirety of the seven buildings of the World Trade Center.
	You notice here Building 7, which was a 47-story building that would have been the highest in some 37 different states and would have dominated the area but for being surrounded by 210-story buildings.
	It turns out that the destruction of the Twin Towers solved an asbestos problem.
	The buildings were built heavily using asbestos, which the Port Authority had directed had to be removed.
	But you could not do it by a conventional demolition because it would have released all the asbestos and other heavy metals into the atmosphere.
	Plus, Doing a removal would have required elaborate steel structures around both buildings, estimated to have run about a billion dollars apiece.
	So isn't it interesting that it just so happens that the attack of 9-11 solved the asbestos problem?
	And here you can see what it looked like in the aftermath.
	It's as though all and only buildings with a WTC prefix had been targeted because indeed that had been the case.
	Here are members of the Port Authority who are involved in the transfer to private hands of Larry Silverstein, for the only time in the history of the World Trade Center, just six weeks before the event.
	Frank Lowry, Paul Eisenberg, Ronald Bowder, all eminent Zionists.
	The Port Authority was controlled by dual U.S.-Israeli citizens.
	Here's Larry Silverstein, known as Lucky Larry, who took possession.
	And Louisa, would you believe, He not only fired the security force that had been in charge since the towers had been open, since the World Trade Center had opened in 1970 and hired an Israeli firm, but he renegotiated the insurance policy to have an anti-terrorist clause.
	And because officially there were two planes and two attacks, he got sought and received double indemnity.
	He made about $4.5 billion on $114 million investment.
	They don't call him Lucky Larry for nothing.
	Here you see Jules Crowe on the right for the Israeli firm that Silverstein hired to take over security when he fired the original term.
	Meanwhile, Odego Messenger and others seem to have been sending out warnings to Jewish employees that they should not come into Lower Manhattan that day.
	Even Willie Brown from California explained that he'd been warned not to get on a plane To fly that day on 9-11, apparently by Susan Rice, who of course was National Security Advisor to Barack Obama.
	So he would later contradict, but of course, because in their efforts to cover up.
	I had a little old Jewish lady call me up from Brooklyn to tell me that their rabbi had warned them at the synagogue not to go into lower Manhattan that day.
	And she wanted to share that with me, which may account for why I believe the total turns out to be perhaps one person who was Jewish who died that day.
	Now, they've tried to convince us that these 19 Islamic terrorists were responsible under control of that guy in a cave in Afghanistan.
	This is in Portland, with different time stamps.
	This is supposed to be Mohammed Adda, but there's in fact no evidence that any of the 9-11 hijackers boarded any of the planes.
	Indeed, it turns out that the 9-11 hijackers' passports were issued by the CIA.
	What would make more sense if this is a CIA-collaborated effort with members of the DoD and the Mossad?
	Here we have Rumsfeld, of course, explaining about the missing $2.3 trillion that we've already addressed.
	This is Dov Zorkheim, at the time the controller, giving you some idea where most of that $2.3 trillion went.
	Meanwhile, here's video of the hit on the North Tower.
	There's extremely little footage of this.
	It turns out there was a French film crew calling themselves the Naudet, N-A-U-D-E-T brothers, B-R, who were filming there.
	A Leslie Raphael, a Scottish scholar of 9-11, has calculated It required satisfying some 100 improbable circumstances for the cameraman to have been there where they were ostensibly filming a gas leak involving a fire department unit, swing his camera up and catch the hit.
	Particularly when you realize that the speed of sound is so much slower than the speed of the aircraft.
	By the time he heard the speed, the sound of the aircraft, the plane would have already hit the building.
	Instead, he effortlessly swung his camera up and captured what is supposed to be the first hit on the North Tower.
	Now here's what an actual Boeing 767 would have looked like.
	In Shanksville and the Pentagon, they were 757s.
	The 767 is slightly larger and faster.
	Here's what a 767 approaching the North Tower would have looked like, but Here's what we have in the footage.
	It's a series of very odd images.
	In fact, a woman by the name of the Web Fairy said it looked like a flying pig had hit the building.
	Here's the first hit, allegedly.
	Take a look at the flash frame.
	Something very, very odd is going on here.
	Notice initially when it hits, you get kind of a zigzag pattern, but by the time the smoke clears, it's turned into an elongated V. Not only that, but there's an extension of the wing.
	Now, the wing is a rather fragile, especially the tip of the wing part of an aircraft, and yet they extended the image to make it look as though the tip of the plane had created these imprints.
	In fact, it appears to have all taken place beneath the smoke and the flash of what appeared to have been previously positioned explosives, even perhaps napalm, so that behind the scene they could blow out the image to create the impression of cause and effect, but using Hollywood-style techniques Where they use very diverse causes to bring about what's supposed to be an induced effect.
	Think of the Rambo movies where they're attacking a North Vietnamese prison camp to free Americans.
	You see explosions going up, blood bursting, people's brains being blown out.
	Those are all special effects.
	Little blood packets, tiny explosives.
	I mean, after all, if they were also killing all these people and making a movie, they wouldn't be able to hire actors for future.
	So it's all special effects that were adapted on 9-11.
	Again, political theater.
	This particular plane, by the way, was intersecting with seven different floors.
	Now what's important is each of these floors consisted of a steel truss connected at one end to the 47 massive core columns at the other to the external steel support columns which were quite formidable in and of themselves.
	No actual plane could have intersected.
	Notice too here, part of what appears to be the damage to the facade, one student by the name of Steve Dack suggests that the cutouts might have been done by means of a missile fired at it.
	Key point being there's no evidence of any plane parts in any of these gashes.
	Not only that, But there were some 200 Israeli art students inside the Twin Towers.
	They were known as the Gelatin Group.
	And they had box after box of fuse holders, which I believe were intended to be used to position incendiaries in order to create the cutouts that some have likened to Roadrunner cartoons.
	We have Wile E. Coyote running through a building, a boulder, and he leaves a cutout exactly resembling his enemy.
	Exactly.
	Meanwhile, on 9-11, a whole lot of activities were taking place of which the American people are unaware.
	Louisa, this was a much more elaborate operation.
	Get this.
	The Dancer Art Student Group.
	These were Israelis who'd been admitted into the U.S.
	as art students at a variety of tasks.
	Among them, planting jammers on buildings to block Port Authority dispatchers and first responder radios.
	Plant explosives on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge where cables were anchored to collapse a bridge.
	Explode a truck in the Lincoln Tunnel.
	Explode a truck in the Holland Tunnel.
	Park trucks with demolition devices in specific parking areas of the Twin Towers.
	In other words, the idea was to isolate the island of Manhattan from all of the others.
	Now a woman at Liberty State Park observed five who she thought looked like Arabs who were celebrating as they filmed the destruction of the Twin Tower.
	They turned out to be Israelis.
	Surprise, surprise.
	They were apprehended in a van by Urban Moving System that even had a mural depicted here of a plane in relation to the Twin Towers.
	When the arresting officer approached, the driver said, we are not the problem.
	Our problem is your problem.
	The problem is the Palestinians.
	They found box cutters, passports, residue of explosives in the truck.
	These individuals were apprehended and held for 71 days until they were released by an assistant to then Attorney General John Ashcroft.
	They went back to Israel and three of them appeared on Israeli television.
	They're known as the Dancing Israelis, and three of them explained they'd been there to document the destruction of the World Trade Center, in particular the Twin Towers, which obviously implies foreknowledge.
	Well, the individual who directed their release was none other than Michael Chertoff, who, after Tom Ridge, would become the second head of Homeland Security, but who's again a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen and appears to have had a corrupt role to play here.
	Louisa, let me take your comments before we turn to the fascinating case of Flight 175 and the South Tower.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I have, uh, I witnessed it, you know, I'm a witness to what happened to in person.
	So I, I was very close by on that day and, uh, I have my own stories too.
	Uh, and I also, uh, have a friend who, uh, lived in, uh, uh, Jersey city and she was told, uh, in the elevator that morning, uh, or not that morning, the day before not to go to work the next day, because it was one of the, It was someone who was involved in that, Jersey City's right across from lower Manhattan for people who aren't aware of it.
	And they were, I guess she befriended, she became friendly with somebody who was involved in this planning and execution of this and was told, and I guess became friendly and befriended the person and they told her, it was a male, told her not to go to work tomorrow.
	And then it happened.
	So, and this was a very valid, you know, testimony from this individual but yeah, we know also and I don't have the, I don't have the footage I don't know if I, if I, if I have it saved or not I have to go back.
	In fact, this was long before I started doing reports, but I did videotape.
	I have a lot of what I saw videotaped.
	I haven't checked my own video for this because now we don't have VHS tapes.
	We have Hi8 tapes right from camcorders.
	I don't have the ability to go back and kind of really analyze that on my computer now until I convert it, but there was somebody across the water who heard the, you were able to look at the sound pattern of all the explosions that went off.
	There's no question this was, you know, a series of explosions that went off in a controlled demolition, because the sound recording of it across the water, which amplifies sound, was able to detect those explosions.
	And you could see, you know, it registered these explosions.
	The peak of that sound wave was recorded on this across the water.
	So as you were talking about, you know, these individuals who were across the water
	on the New Jersey side and the Jersey city side, there was a lot of other things planned that day.
	But it was definitely something that I witnessed firsthand.
	Those buildings were vaporized.
	The debris, the cloud that emerged from this, the debris did go over where I was standing.
	And it was a beautiful, beautiful September sunny day.
	Not a cloud in the sky, crisp, clear, low humidity, just perfect, gorgeous weather.
	And when this cloud came overhead, it became overcast.
	It was thick, who knows what was in it, asbestos, everything in the world.
	So Jim, whatever was going on, there was definitely very nefarious plans and you're pointing out obvious facts,
	Jim, that people, you need to use your own eyes and ears and forget about the
	propaganda that's been spoon fed to you and realize these facts that Jim's presenting are, you have
	to trust your own observations and these are the observations Jim's presenting to you.
	Go ahead, my friend.
	Yeah, thanks Louisa.
	What also happened in New York is utterly fascinating.
	Everyone thinks the idea of no planes on 9-11 is absurd because they saw the planes themselves.
	Remember, in that opening footage, when the reporter was told it was bombs, he said, no, it was a second plane.
	We saw it on television.
	So that most Americans believe what they saw on television.
	But in television and the movies, there are many different ways of fabricating or faking events that turn out to be actually physically impossible, thus with Flight 175.
	Now, the no-planes theory really is a conjunction of four different hypotheses, namely that Flight 93 did not crash in Jangsville.
	We already know that to be the case.
	That Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon.
	We already know that to be the case.
	That flight 11 did not hit the North Tower and that flight 175 did not hit the South.
	I'm in the process of explaining how we know those two hypotheses are also true, where the conjunction of the four represents no-planes theory.
	And this is independent of what you saw on television.
	In fact, what you saw on television were Masterful simulations of events that were not even physically possible.
	Here's an example of what everyone saw on television, what appeared to be Flight 175 approaching the South Tower.
	Now, it turns out that Pilots for 9-11 Truth has analyzed the innumerable videos we have of Flight 175 approaching the tower.
	There are as many as 52.
	and discovered that the speed of the plane at that altitude was aerodynamically impossible.
	In other words, it exceeded the stress limits for an aircraft in flight.
	Indeed, pilots have established a documentary they published, 9-11 Intercepted, In which they show how the plane would have come apart in the air at that altitude and speed.
	It appears, Louisa, that they mistook the cruising speed of a 767 at 35,000 feet for something that could have happened at 700 to 1,000.
	Where the air is only one-third as dense.
	Thus, John Lear, in his affidavit, explains how, because of the greater thickness of the air, they cannot be processed by the turbines, which begin to function as brakes.
	And we're the fellow who designed the shaker system to assess the amount of stress a commercial carrier could take under different aeronautical conditions, as confirmed the same conclusion the plane would have come apart in the air.
	Meanwhile, what we actually saw was disappearing completely into the building with no collision effects.
	Therefore, at some time been referred to as the ghost plane or the butter plane, as though we had a 110-story cube of butter because a plane just effortlessly disappears.
	Now I mentioned with regard to the North Tower, the plane was intersecting with seven different floors, each of which consisted of a steel truss connected at one end to the core columns at the other to the external steel support columns.
	I neglected to add filled with eight inches of concrete.
	Actually four to eight because the trusses have four inch deep v-shaped grooves.
	So in some areas you'd have four inches of concrete and others eight.
	On a building with 208 foot on a side, that means each floor represented an acre of concrete on a steel straw.
	We know what happens to airplanes in flights.
	I'll show you some images.
	Imagine when they encounter a small bird weighing a few ounces.
	Imagine encountering an acre of concrete on a steel straw.
	Nevertheless, what we see is a plane effortlessly disappearing into the building when it ought to have crumpled external to the building.
	This is the Evan Fairbanks video taken straight up.
	We have done a count of the frames, and the plane disappears its entire length into the building in the same number of frames it passes its entire length through air.
	Which means there was no diminution in velocity, which makes physical sense only if a massive 500,000 ton steel and concrete building poses no more resistance to the trajectory of an aircraft in flight than air.
	If you look down at the lower left, there was a blunder that occurred because the nose of the plane poked out.
	Where the nose of the plane is the most fragile part, it contains all the electronic components.
	There's no possible way the nose of the plane could have popped out.
	And when this occurred, Louisa, During this, what was supposed to be live television broadcast, they went to black.
	They cut off the transmission because there'd been a problem here.
	They were revealing the theatrics of how the fakery had been done.
	Here's what ought to have happened.
	Ace Baker did a brilliant 9-11 psy opera where he illustrates what actually ought to have happened.
	The planes should have crumbled, and this is for both the North and the South Tower.
	External to the building, bodies, seats, luggage, wings, tail fallen to the ground.
	The engines might very well have penetrated the building, but virtually none of the rest of the aircraft.
	We know that didn't happen.
	Here you see the spectacular fireball that occurred in relation to the South Tower, very like what happened with the North.
	Nevertheless, we have film footage and photographs beneath the facades of the North and the South Tower both, And there is no remnant of any aircraft there.
	No wings, no tail, no bodies, no seats, no luggage.
	Think of laws that cause and effect.
	If those planes had hit those buildings, there would necessarily have been debris, bodies, seats, luggage, wings, tail on the ground beneath them.
	There is, however, no body seats, luggage, tail, wings beneath the facades.
	That implies, of necessity, the planes did not hit those facades.
	Interestingly, an engine was found at Church and Murray.
	Now, Jack White, who did that wonderful piece illustrating that the size of a Boeing 757 would be more than twice that, shown in the frame released by the Pentagon, and who also put together that series Showing that the plane entering the South Tower took place at the same velocity with no diminution and no collision effects as though it were passing through air.
	Notice that it was a white van at Church and Murray.
	Now, this engine component has been frequently cited as proof that a real plane actually hit the South Tower, but Notice it's just sitting on the sidewalk.
	It's under steel scaffolding and a canopy, which are undamaged.
	Anything that massive at high velocity would have churned up the sidewalk and done immense damage.
	Now Jack White discovered in Fox News a van at the intersection with four or five men in FBI vests unloading something heavy.
	What turns out to be the tell, Louisa, is this was an antiquated 767 engine component no longer in service, which was readily identified by experts.
	And notice, they even seem to have left behind a dolly they may have used in moving the position into place.
	I talked about the gashes, which again I emphasize now.
	There's no components of any aircraft in either the North Tower on the left or the South on the right.
	Where are the parts of the Boeing 767s?
	This is Steve Dack and I talking about the issue here of how they were done.
	If a bird doesn't vaporize in the process of slicing a wing, then a plane shouldn't vaporize during the process of slicing steel and concrete.
	Where is the evidence that a plane created those holes?
	And you notice on the far left, some of the damage that is done by small birds impacting with aircraft.
	Here are more.
	These are birds that only weigh a few ounces, Louisa, and yet they're supposed to cut through these massive steel columns.
	You can see below on the left, those are some of the external steel support columns, which were quite formidable in and of themselves.
	Now, there's also been reference to this F-4 Phantom jet fighter that was run on a rocket sled, a railroad sled propelled by a rocket, into a nuclear resistant concrete barrier, which is supposed to show the evaporation of the plane.
	The problem being the following.
	This was a jet aircraft that's made of a synthetic material.
	It appears to have been filled with water.
	It did not pass through the concrete bunker, but blew apart into millions of pieces.
	That did not happen on 9-11, as you can see, which means this is a faulty analogy.
	Where analogies are indefensible if there are more differences than similarities, or if there are few but crucial differences, or if they're taken to be conclusive.
	There are more differences than similarities, and they are more certainly crucial differences.
	No comparison.
	You can tell, therefore, someone is an apologist for the official account if they bring up this Sandia crash site, because it has no relevance.
	So the question becomes, how was it done?
	Rosalie Grebel, the web fairy who described those images of the plane approaching the North Tower as a flying pig, suggested it might have been done by computer generated images or CGI.
	Ace Baker suggested that it might have been done by video compositing.
	There's a 17-second delay between the actual filming of footage and its release to the public, during which additional images could be added.
	The third view, however, is that it was done using sophisticated holograms, which may sound far-fetched, but let me explain why that appears to be what happened here on 9-11.
	The most important point right off the bat to make is the following.
	If it had been either CGI or video compositing, then The only appearance of a plane flying toward or entering the building would have been in the broadcast footage.
	None of it would have been reported live.
	And yet we had hundreds of reports seeing a plane, and while they differed greatly, some a small plane, some a large, some a commercial, some a military, there's really no ground to dispute.
	There were lots of witness reports seeing a plane in real time.
	But if that's the case, then it cannot have been CGI or video compositing, since then the images of the plane would have only been visible in broadcast footage and not in real time.
	Now there's a fellow named Richard D. Hall out of the UK who did a completely brilliant analysis of what he calls a Flight 175 radar data 3D analysis.
	Now, what Richard Hall did was to study those videos of Flight 175 approaching the building and create a graph from those that were useful, about 27 of where the plane was at various times.
	He discovered that the NIST had a similar graph, but when he looked at its alleged source in radar data, it didn't appear to be correct.
	What he discovered, however, is that there was radar data, but it had the peculiarity that it was reporting a flight that was 1,200 feet to the right of the plots that he had charted.
	1,200 feet to the right!
	This led him to the conjecture that it was done by a holographic projection of a plane flying 1,200 feet to the right of the image that it was projecting, which would explain why it was flying at an impossible speed.
	It wasn't actually a Boeing 767.
	But this airborne holographic projector, that it may have had to fly faster than aerodynamically possible to preserve the integrity of the image, why we had the impossible entry into the building and even the nose-out phenomenon with a nose that would have been impossible to have remained intact had it been real, And why the military radar didn't detect the plane in the observed positions of all the videos?
	Because the radar is from radio waves bouncing off of real objects.
	They were bouncing off the real plane, which was projecting the image.
	They could not bounce off of the projected image because there was nothing there.
	Thus, here you see an image of Richard Hall's projection theory of how it was done.
	I'm given to understand Richard Hall has abandoned this theory, no doubt under intense pressure.
	I therefore adopt it.
	This is the correct theory.
	It was done by means of a holographic projection.
	I was even sent a page from an Australian military manual for an airborne holographic projector seen here.
	A holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location removed from the display generator.
	The projector can be used for psychological operations and strategic perception management.
	It's also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary, or to fool the public about the actual causes of the destruction of the Twin Towers on 9-11.
	Meanwhile, it turns out that once again, pilots for 9-11 Truth have been able to confirm Flight 175 was still in the air after it had officially hit the South Tower.
	In this instance, it was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	This is really stunning stuff, Louisa, and let me pause here to get your comments and thoughts about what I've explained.
	Now Richard Hall, by the way, said the same technique had been used for the North Tower, which again is how we know that none of the Four 9-11 aircraft actually crashed on 9-11.
	It's a stunning result, but I assure you it is the result of objective scientific investigation.
	OK, well, the idea of these holograms are very realistic.
	And I know that, you know, again, people have to be able to imagine that this technology exists.
	So let me just give you an example of how we know that this technology exists, although this was going to be used for a different purpose.
	This is from the WikiLeaks files.
	This came from the opposition research, apparently, that the Clinton Foundation had paid the Benison Group to do.
	Regarding the election with Donald Trump as they saw that Hillary Clinton was losing the election, they were going to implore this technology that you're seeing here, which is, they were going to fake an alien invasion using exactly what we're talking about.
	Technology that can produce an effect in the sky, and it has real sound now it says here, this is called fire sign, and it says fire sign scenario is that of an invading extraterrestrial force of nearly incomprehensible scale.
	And this is real.
	This is in their opposition research in terms of what would stop Trump supporters from coming out to vote.
	And this was the salvage project.
	This was what they unanimously decided was going to stop Trump supporters from going to vote.
	Because virtually Trump supporters were unstoppable.
	And so this was how desperate they were.
	So this is revealing that they had not only knowledge, but that we possess the technology to do exactly what you're suggesting, Jim.
	It says here that this would have a scenario of an invading extraterrestrial force of nearly incomprehensible scale, Now, this is interesting.
	This phenomena, when activated, will bring electoral and social systems to a halt.
	I mean, this is what they were thinking, right?
	But this is more interesting here.
	So it says, this aftermath of Firestein will be the psychological subjugation of areas where uprisings are more likely to occur.
	So they know they can target psychologically a certain group of people, specifically in a certain region, but particularly if it's aired on video, right?
	But it says here, the induced trauma of Feierstein will provide ample cover to government and NGOs
	who will be providing aid.
	You see how it's in, folks realize what we are dealing with here,
	that there's an agenda out here to completely hoodwink the population,
	that they have the capabilities to turn these weapons against us to sell their propaganda
	while they're off doing some nefarious stealing money from the American people.
	It says here that, psychotropic to induce docility and counseling services
	because this has the effect of affecting the people on a psychological level.
	So, and I'll explain that just very quickly allow me to do that Jim because this tells you how the technology actually
	affects people.
	Where did it, I think this is the one I want to share.
	Wait, nope, that's not the one I want to share.
	Hold on.
	Where'd my screen go?
	It's amazing, but the technology exists, Jim, so it's not far-fetched.
	It's not as far-fetched as people think.
	So here's the explanation in a little bit more detail.
	I'm sorry, where'd you go?
	There you are.
	Sorry about this.
	It's just so many screens opened up.
	Here you go.
	So this is another page from this Benison group and it says, for almost two decades, the Department of Defense and NASA have coordinated on black book projects under the code name Firesign.
	Let me just enlarge this so people can actually read along and see this, okay?
	Firesign aims is to create an awe-affecting enemy populations to create an instantaneous psychological soft kill The operation uses high-powered lasers to project real-seeming images on the sodium layer 100 kilometers above the surface.
	These images can cover hundreds or even thousands of square miles and can appear completely real, three-dimensional, and can move.
	Okay, so it also says here, the visual cues are augmented with pulsed ELF electromagnetic emissions that attack the specific areas of the prefrontal cortex that are stimulated during religious experience.
	Let me tell you something, Jim, this is entirely possible.
	In fact, this is so plausible, what you're suggesting, that it here's the evidence of it.
	These came from WikiLeaks files.
	The technology exists, folks.
	It's very real.
	Louisa, those are wonderful points.
	Let me add.
	There are many who don't appreciate how military technology is decades ahead of what the public is allowed to know.
	Many still believe you have to have a solid image to project a hologram.
	There's a newly developed technology, however, that uses air molecules as a temporary transitory screen for the projecting of these images, which appears to be exactly what happened on 9-11.
	But just think of the enormity of the deception being contemplated here by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats to steal an election from the American people.
	In the light of those revelations, Louisa, it's hardly surprising they would have gone all out to steal the election in all these many different forms as occurred on 2020.
	I mean, just outrageous.
	And then that they would attack viciously anyone who disputes the authenticity or integrity of the election when this is what they were planning for the American people.
	This is not just hypocrisy.
	This is criminality of a degree that constitutes gross violation of the U.S.
	Constitution and therefore treason.
	By Hillary Clinton and her allies in the Democratic Party.
	Don't have any doubt about it.
	This is massive treason.
	Violation of the Constitution and betrayal of the American people.
	By Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.
	Egregious crimes against humanity.
	Egregious crimes against humanity.
	It's unbelievable.
	And this is from their own research from these WikiLeaks files that were released.
	It's amazing stuff, Jim, and so it's going to be hard for people to really accept the enormity of this, Jim, the enormity of what this really implies.
	Well, Louisa, I think that was a great addition to the discussion.
	Meanwhile, Donald Trump was the first to contest the official version of the attacks of 9-11 on television that very day.
	After having noted the engineers who built the Twin Towers were now working for him, he declared on New York's Channel 9 it was impossible that Boeings could have burst through the steel structures of the towers, that it was impossible that Boeings, the jet fuel-based fires, could have caused the towers to collapse.
	He concluded by affirming there had to be other factors of which we were as yet unaware.
	He used the word bombs, meaning sources of massive energy that were involved, about which he was 100% correct.
	Now, turns out that there were earlier explosions in the sub-basements that were intended to be coordinated with a purported impact of the planes on each of the buildings to have been caused by jet fuel fire falling through the Elevator shafts into the sub-basement.
	Here you see some of the smoke here.
	It blew out windows in the lobby.
	These were substantial effects.
	They were captured in terms of seismic reports just as Louisa was referring for the first impact And the second impact, these are before the destruction of the buildings where we've been told endlessly that they collapsed, but they manifestly did not.
	It turns out that two members of scholars, Gordon Ross and Jeff Furlong, actually undertook a study of the exact time at which these explosions took place and the planes hit the building using the seismic data.
	And it turns out there was a hand-eye coordination problem.
	Because according to the official reports, the explosions actually took place 14 seconds before Flight 11 hit the North Tower, 17 seconds before Flight 175 hit the South Tower.
	So that Ross and Furlong really established that it was an inside job based upon seismic data.
	Now here you see the way in which the elevator shafts were designed.
	There were practically none that went all the way from the top to the bottom, and instead you'd come down as many as 30 floors, have to get off, get on another elevator, then another elevator, but so that Willie Rodriguez, who was in charge of the North Tower janitorial staff, reported how one of his fellow custodians had suffered from this massive explosion and just had the skin hanging off of his body.
	Another was trapped in one of the elevator shafts but survived, which would have been impossible according to the official account.
	When Willie came to Madison and gave a talk, he and I and Kevin Barrett had dinner after, and when he talked about how the sub-basements were filling with water in the aftermath of the explosion, I knew that was the reason to drain the sprinkler systems in the north and the south tower of water so they couldn't extinguish the very modest fires that remain after the massives Pre-positioned explosives had extinguished themselves in 15 or 20 seconds.
	Now, the reason they had to find an ingenious way to destroy the Twin Towers concerns The fact that their basement, their sub-basements were below the water level of the Hudson, so that if they didn't find a way, the protection that was provided by what was known as the bathtub would have allowed Hudson River water to flood beneath lower Manhattan, which was the most valuable real estate in the world.
	So they had to undertake doing that.
	Louisa, I got to pause here a moment.
	Okay.
	Louisa go you had some additions you want to make and I really like the ones you've made already.
	You know, I'll tell you, Jim, there's something very, very strange going on, and I'm going to screen share an image that, you know, I think it's appropriate to present at any time during this presentation, but it's puzzling.
	It's puzzling that this was an artwork, a painting, in allegedly Jeffrey Epstein's apartment in New York City.
	W with a paper plane in the collapsed building.
	Yeah, so here it is.
	Very curious.
	Two piles of towers, two airplanes knocked.
	I mean this is pretty, this is sick folks.
	Let me tell you, and if you think that's something.
	Now I have another image here Jim, and I'm not sure if you have this in your Presentation or not, I cannot independently confirm what that this was related to 911, but this is the ability to remote takeover.
	These.
	I mean it is, you know, designed to look like an American Airlines flight.
	This post is alleging that it was used on 9-11 but I cannot independently confirm that, but it gives you food for thought as to what on earth was going on.
	On those days, the identity of these people have been blacked out.
	And then here's, you know, an even more, I think, compelling picture.
	These photos were posted.
	on social media so it's it's not like they haven't been around but this is an image inside of uh apparently it looks like an aircraft because you could see how the no no no that's a drone that's a drone control center well uh it looks but you can see on the screens right so it's a drone control center i think it's in an airplane That's what I think it is, but it may or may not be.
	So this could have been remotely, obviously.
	Oh, you're saying it's an airborne drone control center?
	Yes, yes.
	That's what it looks like.
	Well, Louisa, these weren't used in New York City.
	I mean, I've explained how it was done using holograms.
	So the only locale it could have been used would have been the Pentagon.
	And I believe the explanation I've given you that it was an unmanned aerial vehicle, a Global Hawk, where the best work on this has been done by Dennis Camino, who is the Navy's top electronic troubleshooter until he resigned and went to work for Raytheon, has done the most brilliant expose.
	But it is fascinating they had that ability.
	Yeah, I'm just saying that it's something that needs more investigation, because we don't know if that was what was used at the Pentagon, because clearly... I'm telling you, it does not appear to have been used at the Pentagon.
	I'm telling you, it does not appear to have been used at the Pentagon.
	Well, what made the hole in the wall of the Pentagon?
	I already explained that.
	It was a missile fired by an unmanned aerial vehicle.
	And this is an unmanned aerial vehicle.
	Could this not have been the actual vehicle that did this?
	Yeah, but it doesn't appear to be the one that was used, which was a Global Hawk.
	Okay, it looks very different, Louisa.
	Okay.
	But could it have been painted up like that?
	Sure.
	Yeah, okay.
	Let's allow that open possibility.
	Okay.
	Meanwhile, can I just make one more comment that that there?
	I don't know about your theories about directed energy weapons, because we do have evidence that something more than just simple explosives were used by virtue.
	Let me get there.
	Okay, good.
	Then I'll wait till you get to that point.
	Yes.
	Here you see the destruction of the North Tower.
	Now, obviously, this is no collapse.
	You have the building blowing apart in every direction from the top down.
	All the floors are remaining stationary, waiting their turn to, in the memorable words of Morgan Reynolds, be blown to kingdom come.
	They're being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust.
	Now, according to the official account, the planes hit the building, caused the steel to weaken, and you had a successive collapse of one floor upon another.
	Well, that's ridiculous, physically and otherwise.
	It turns out there were like a minimum of 118 units of upward force for every unit of downward force.
	And remember how the steel tapered off.
	You're talking about a tiny percentage of the steel overwhelming the lower, where according to John Skilling, who was the chief engineer and designed the towers, they actually had a safety factor of 20, which means that every floor could support 20 times its expected live load, which is the dead load absent any occupants, any furniture, computers, and the like.
	The live load equaled that addition.
	So it's just ridiculous.
	Now look at this, the North Tower and what's going on there.
	Now does anyone in the world think looking at that photograph we're talking about a collapse?
	And I just point out in the foreground there is Building 7.
	Which would not come down for seven hours more at 5.20 in the afternoon in a classic controlled demolition.
	But look at this.
	In my opinion, this photograph simply destroys the official government propaganda, which endlessly repeats the word collapse, collapse, collapse.
	This was no collapse.
	And look at this.
	This is a destruction of the remnants of the core columns of the North Tower.
	There's some form of molecular dissociation taking place here, which Judy Wood has suggested was done by directed energy weaponry, but for which we have a simpler and, I believe, more explanatory hypothesis as an alternative that I'm going to explain.
	But look at what's going on here.
	Without any question, there was molecular dissociation, which goes far beyond the resources that have been alleged by the government in terms of jet fuel in the collapsing building, which is a preposterous, not even physically possible hypothesis.
	Or architects and engineers, which claim that this was all done using what's known as nanothermite, based upon miniscule studies of some dust samples in New York, where it turns out those kinds of dust sample residues that were claimed to be nanothermite are a byproduct of the mechanism that was actually involved.
	You talked about the dust, Louisa.
	Look here, how New York City, lower Manhattan, is being enveloped by this massive cloud of dust.
	Now it appears to have been done by small nukes in the sub-basement.
	It had the effect of blowing the towers apart in two stages.
	First, the internal massive 47 core columns from the bottom up, and then as a consequence, what would be visible externally, the 230 core columns from the top down.
	Notice, this is for the South Tower.
	Which, interestingly, and the media never talks about this, had a tilt to the initial top of the South Tower, where it then is blown apart.
	Very, very strange.
	Here you have for the North.
	As I explained, we have these nukes in the sub-basement destroying the building from the inside out.
	First, the inner tube from the bottom up, and then the outer tube From the top down.
	Here's another proof that it cannot have been jet fuel or nanothermite, which by the way only has 1 13th the explosive force of TNT, which is the universal standard.
	In other words, a feeble explosive.
	We had debris ejected from the North Tower at a 45 degree angle for 600 feet.
	Absolutely unbelievable.
	Here's a Winter Gardens where that massive steel assembly came down.
	Such that, key points, jet fuel fires, even if they burn hot enough and long enough, would cause the buildings to sag and gradually collapse.
	Jet fuel could not have ejected 300 tons up at a 45 degree angle and 600 feet outward into the winter garden.
	To explode steel, an explosive needs to have a detonation velocity of 6,100 meters per second.
	to explode cement, a detonation velocity of 3,200 meters per second. Kerosene has a detonation
	velocity of only 1,600 meters per second. Nanothermite, appallingly, has a detonation
	velocity of only 895 meters per second. Many nukes, however, would have had the observed effects.
	Just notice there about nanothermite, which Richard Gage and architects and engineers
	have promoted, cannot possibly have been responsible for destroying the Twin Towers.
	Indeed, one of the foremost advocates of nanothermite, one Niels Herreth.
	whose associate professor emeritus of chemistry at the University of Copenhagen estimated it would require 29,000 metric tons of nanothermite to blow apart a twin tower.
	That would be like filling the buildings with circus peanuts.
	It's an absurd hypothesis.
	Meanwhile, the US Geological Survey studied dust samples from 25 locations in lower Manhattan and found a host of elements that would not have been present had this not been a nuclear event.
	Barium and strontium.
	Neither should ever appear in these quantities.
	They never fall before.
	400 parts per million for barium or 700 parts per million for strontium.
	Read over 3,000 parts per million for both in the dust samples at Broadway and John Street.
	Thorium and uranium.
	These elements only exist in radioactive form.
	Thorium is a radioactive element formed from uranium by decay.
	It's very rare, should not be in building rubble ever.
	So once again, we have verifiable evidence a nuclear fission event has taken place.
	Lithium, With the presence of lithium, we have compelling evidence that this fission pathway of uranium, deuthorium, and helium, with subsequent declay of the helium into lithium, has taken place.
	Lanthanum, the next element in the disintegration pathway of barium.
	Yttrium, the next element after strontium.
	Which further confirms the presence of barium.
	Chromium.
	The presence of chromium is one more telltale signature of a nuclear detonation.
	Tritium, a very rare element, should not be found at concentrations 55 times normal in the basement of the World Trade Center.
	No less than 11 days after 9-11, which much delusion had taken place.
	They poured a massive quantity of water here.
	Let me observe, by the way, Louisa, that turning materials into very fine dust is a signature of nuclear events.
	Not only do we have the USGS dust samples to confirm, but we have all kinds of health problems.
	The number of cancer cases among 9-11 responders has tripled to more than 5,400 in less than three years.
	This was published in 2016.
	We now have estimates of over 70,000 first responders and local residents suffering from unusual health problems.
	Like multiple myeloma, leukemia, esophageal pancreatic cancer, very analogous to what happened at Chernobyl when there was a nuclear meltdown there.
	Meanwhile, guess what?
	The records for the World Trade Center renovation, involving especially the elevators, We're all destroyed during 9-11.
	This would have been the perfect opportunity, by the way, to implant the explosives to rig the buildings for their destruction.
	Now, in relation to Building 7, it's fascinating.
	Here you see the collapse of a building in Pakistan.
	You see what it looks like.
	Notice all the floors.
	Something similar occurred in Florida recently with a condo collapse.
	Well, here you see a classic controlled demolition.
	There's a little kink at the very top.
	All 47 floors come down at virtually the speed of free fall.
	And when it's over, there's a pile of debris equal to about 20% of the height of the original 47 floors, or five and a half floors.
	This is what we know from experience with regard to controlled demolitions.
	Now, Barry Jennings was there.
	He went to Building 7 because Rudy Giuliani had a command and control center there, two floors, with their own air and water, but no one was there.
	He found still steaming cups of coffee, having sandwiches, A fireman came along and said, we got to get you out of here.
	Explosives were taking place in the building while he was still there.
	A stairwell was blown out from under him.
	He felt himself stepping over bodies in the pitch blackness, which he could not see.
	But when he got out, he gave a report that was widely broadcast at the time about his experience in the building.
	Now, NIST did not even discuss Building 7 in the 9-11 Commission Report, or its technical support, therefore.
	When they did a separate report just days before its release, Barry Jennings died mysteriously, rather like Dave Ball in the aftermath of his observing a plane swerve over the Pentagon, where he would have been in the position to personally refute the official account.
	Now let me notice here by contrast building seven here you see that five and a half floors massive pile of debris but where the north tower stood nothing it was reduced to or even below ground Father Frank Morales, who is an Episcopal priest and a first responder from St.
	Mark's Church, came on my radio shows on two different occasions, Louisa, to explain how the north and the south tower had been destroyed to or even below ground level.
	Had they been collapses?
	And on the principle of 20% of 110, we should have had about 13 and a half floors of debris.
	They were not there because the buildings did not collapse.
	Meanwhile, we had the failure of synchrony between the controlled media and the official script.
	Or Jane Standley of the BBC reported at 4.58 that the Solomon Brothers building, another name for Building 7, had already collapsed.
	So here she is making the report when you can actually see Building 7 in the background.
	BBC has never been able to account for this anomaly.
	They obviously got ahead of the script.
	Meanwhile, during the 9-11 broadcast, you not only heard the report that the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine had claimed responsibility, but between the destruction of the South and the North Tower, they actually played footage of Palestinians rejoicing.
	I knew at the time something was completely wrong.
	Indeed, I was correct.
	The Palestinians were just as slack-jawed and stunned as everyone else trying to figure out what was going on.
	This was archival footage they just happened to have at their fingertips of Palestinians rejoicing over some religious or political event.
	It had nothing to do with 9-11.
	This is classic Israeli overreach.
	They go out of their way to blame the Palestinians, just as the Israelis who are arrested on 9-11 said, we are not the problem.
	Our problem is your problem.
	The problem is the Palestinians, who had absolutely nothing to do with it.
	Does anyone think these Palestinians are going to fake the crash of four different aircraft?
	David Ray Griffin observed in his magisterial book, The 9-11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions, a half a dozen of these suicide hijackers turned up alive and well the following day and made contact with the British press, which obviously implies they did not die in plane crashes, which did not take place.
	Rudy Giuliani, I'm sorry to report, appears to have been deeply involved in 9-11.
	He actually had 115 dump trucks lined up to start hauling away the debris the following day.
	As Judy Wood astutely observed, by the way, each of those dump trucks was bringing in tons upon tons of dirt.
	This is what they did at Chernobyl.
	They buried the reactor debris with dirt to absorb the radioactivity.
	So for the first couple of days, the debris pile was actually growing because of the massive quantity of dirt.
	I would conjecture it would take you a month to line up one dump truck in New York City, Rudy Giuliani, at 115.
	Edward Hendry did brilliant work and discovered that Flight 11 wasn't even on the Bureau of Transportation Statistics records for 9-11.
	In other words, Flight 11, which allegedly hit the North Tower, was not even in the air.
	What the Bureau of Transportation Statistics does is keep records of every single commercial flight in America, from the gate call, when it's scheduled departure time, to actually loading, to pulling away, to wheels up, to wheels down.
	Nothing about flight 11.
	After this was revealed, they went back and tried to patch it up, but with very sketchy and incomplete data because, of course, there was no real flight of 9-11.
	Similarly, Flight 77 allegedly hitting the Pentagon was likewise not even in the air that day.
	Edward Henry did brilliant to capture this.
	These are bona fide records of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics showing those flights were not in the air, where Gerard Holmgren, who is a blues musician from Australia, appears to have been the very first to notice those planes were not in the air on 9-11.
	I went further and obtained Federal Aviation Administration's registration records to show that the planes used for Flight 93 and 175.
	Well, remember, pilots established Flight 93 was over Champaign-Urbana.
	That 175 was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, after they had allegedly crashed or hit the South Tower.
	We're not even formally taken out of service until 28 September 2005.
	So how can planes that were not even in the air crash on 9-11?
	And now can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
	Here you have the non-suicide hijackers who are blamed for it all.
	But think about this.
	If no planes crashed, then no passengers died, and no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash.
	And if no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash, then there was no warrant or any justification for the war on terror, including, of course, the invasion of Afghanistan.
	Now, this is Philip Zelikow, who has made the director of the 9-11 Commission Report.
	Fascinating character.
	His area of academic specialization before entering government service, Louisa, get this, was a creation and maintenance of public myths, M-Y-T-H-S.
	Philip Zelikow is my candidate for the script writer for 9-11.
	How appropriate, therefore, to put him in charge of the investigation.
	He had completed a draft of the 9-11 Commission Report a year before he shared it with any member of the staff, and today he is a member of the Department of History at the University of Virginia.
	Alvin K. Hellerstein has bottled up all 9-11 legal cases in the U.S.
	District Court for the Southern District.
	This is completely outrageous, including suits against airliners, ICST, Pinkerton Security, World Trade Center, and Boeing.
	Here is Ehud Umar and Bibi Netanyahu, whom I guarantee were the masterminds behind 9-11, in order to engineer a rationale to bring American forces into the Middle East, to do the dirty work for Israel by taking out the modern Arab state that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region, and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran.
	It didn't play out as planned because of the intervention of Russian and Iranian troops at the request of the democratically elected president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, but not for a lack of trying.
	And here you have George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, where Dick Cheney himself appears to have been the executive director of 9-11, On the day of the event, from a bunker beneath the White House, as Michael Rupert concluded in his masterful book, Crossing the Rubicon from Public Sources.
	Let me reiterate now.
	Thierry Maison, a French intellectual, in 2002 published a video called Hunt the Boeing, looking for the presence of that Flight 77 at the Pentagon.
	And a book to elaborate called Pantagate.
	He was making the key point that Boeing 757 had hit the Pentagon, which meant that as a U.S.
	military command and control center, the entire 9-11 operation had to be a fraud.
	He was right about that, where I've embedded the results of collaborative research by members of Scholars for 9-11 Truth, which I founded, as confirmation across the board.
	You can find this on my blog at jamesfetzer.org.
	Indeed, we also have then the book, America Nuked on 9-11, as a further resource, where Amazon.com has done its very best to ban my books, but this one, for reasons I cannot explain, has yet to be banned.
	I return to the point with which I opened Louisa, namely Richard Gage has now retired as head of architects and engineers, and while there are those who believe this was a sad day, in fact, he was heading a limited hangout.
	Richard Gage not only insisted that nanothermite was responsible for the destruction of the Twin Towers, which is a physical impossibility, But his group insisted that planes had crashed at Shangri-La and at the Pentagon, which of course is preposterous.
	And further, in addition, and most tellingly, like Judy Wood, will not address who is responsible or why, in the absence of which all this technical discussion about how the Twin Towers were destroyed becomes meaningless technobabble to the average American.
	Who needs to know how it fits into the larger picture?
	So I want to thank you, Louisa, for this opportunity to address what actually happened on 9-11 and for the excellent supplements you've made during our conversation today.
	Well, thank you, Jim, for all of your research and analysis you provided.
	I do have a few things that I'd like to share with your comments, too, to wrap this up if you if you don't mind.
	Here is a wanted to attribute who the could be behind this.
	Let's take a little look at some documents that I have.
	Defense Science Board Task Force on High Energy Laser Weapon Systems Application.
	This is a Department of Defense document.
	This is dated June 2001.
	So this is unclassified.
	As you can see, it says right here.
	And what this is discussing is this is a document here from the Office of Secretary of Defense on August of 01.
	So this was pretty much a month before September 11th, right?
	So this is Memorandum for Undersecretary of Defense Acquisition Technology and Logistics.
	The subject is Final Report Of the Defense Science Board Summary Study Task Force on High-Energy Laser Weapon Systems Applications.
	And I'll just read a little bit, okay?
	I am pleased to forward the final report of the DSB Task Force on High-Energy Laser, HEL, Weapon Systems Application.
	The task force was tasked to review and evaluate recent and ongoing programs in HEL applications,
	examine recent supporting technology advancements and their applications, and determine what
	remains to be done to weaponize, of course, these systems in applicable combat theater environments.
	They were asked to make recommendations on the need for additional DoD research efforts,
	strategic and tactical impact of HEL systems on future military operations and capabilities of
	Defense Industrial Base to support development These high energy laser weapon systems.
	In their report, the task force states that high power lasers have the potential to change future military operations in dramatic ways.
	The United States is in a position to exploit current high energy laser technology to take advantage of speed of light engagement, precisely controlled effects, deep magazines, low cost per shot and reduce logistical footprints.
	To that end, I agree with the report's findings that the development of high energy laser systems deserved a sustained department-wide science and technology investment in basic and exploratory research in order to improve reliability and reduce the cost of ATL systems, especially for tactical applications.
	And then here is an entire report here, Jim.
	So again, you know, this is high energy laser technologies.
	Have matured to the point that a family of applications is feasible over the next two decades and so forth.
	So, yes, Jim?
	You're signing on to the Judy Wood Limited Hangout program, which I reject.
	I know Judy Wood well.
	I interviewed her 15 different times.
	We went through her website.
	I was pioneering the interaction between the Internet and computers.
	Judy's theory does not pan out, Louisa.
	I sought to explain that.
	We know it was a nuclear event.
	Judy's event cannot explain the evidence.
	We can explain evidence, including that Judy cannot, including that 300-ton steel assembly blown at a 45-degree angle 600 feet into the Winter Garden.
	I've explained how the U.S.
	Geological Survey revealed a host of elements that would not have been present had this not been a nuclear event.
	I reviewed how the medical maladies correspond to those following Chernobyl, how the techniques that were taken involving bringing in tons and tons and tons of dirt were also like those at Chernobyl.
	It was a nuclear event.
	Judy Wood, like Richard Gage was running a limited hangout.
	Judy Wood, like Richard Gage, insisted we had to know how it was done before we could address who was responsible and why.
	That's nonsense.
	That's like saying you can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
	Moreover, Judy Wood, like Richard Gage, refused to talk about who was responsible and why.
	So I appreciate your comments about laser technology, Louisa, but they were not employed on 9-11.
	And so we don't know how this was done then, do we?
	Yeah, we do.
	This was from the effects of the radioactivity from the nuclear events.
	We know how it was done.
	There's a better explanation.
	We can explain everything Judy can explain and more that Judy cannot and Louisa.
	When I pointed out that Judy wasn't taking into account the results of the U.S.
	Geological Survey on a five-star review I had posted on Amazon.com, I was besieged by 2,000 attacks.
	I even invited her to participate in the Vancouver hearings to present her views and those of John Hutchison, her ally, and Crocker Gable, who is a physicist, agreed with her.
	Crocker and John both agreed.
	Judy never replied, but she talked him out of coming.
	When I returned after a great deal more evidence was presented of how it had been a nuclear event, I realized I had to be more specific in my review and downgraded it from a five star to a three.
	And explain how Judy was not taking into account the results of the U.S.
	Geological Survey, which would require rejecting hypotheses she previously accepted, accepting hypotheses she previously rejected, and leaving others in suspense.
	For that I was attacked massively.
	I can't even open it anymore because the number of attacks on my review, this is my review of her book, Louisa, are probably up to around 50,000 today.
	It's stunning.
	Yeah, I'm not saying, Jim, that that's the only cause.
	I agree that there's evidence of a nuclear event, but I'm saying that we also know that there was controlled demolition.
	We also know because of the sound recordings, because of the seismic, not just the seismic collapse, but the sound recordings that I've personally seen.
	But what I'm saying is that just because we don't know how to detect that lasers were used doesn't mean they weren't also engaged in addition to this.
	And that's what I'm just trying to say.
	There still may be more evidence to be revealed if that's the case.
	If it's a technology we don't know, how are we going to find evidence that it exists?
	So that's what I'm trying to say is that it just seemed to But you're right.
	There's definitely a nuclear event involved in this, and I'm not disputing that whatsoever.
	I just think that it's very possible, given the document we just reviewed, that the military was involved in their interest at that time.
	It's been a real pleasure.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.

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