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March 27, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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Michael Decon Tonight (26 March 2021) with Jim Fetzer
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Welcome to the Patreon series.
I'm so glad you are here, James.
Welcome back.
Oh, Michael, it's always a pleasure.
We somehow misconnected last time, and I'm just very glad to be back with you.
I always enjoy our conversations.
Clockwise.
So this is the first time you're here, Jim.
There will be some newer shows that have not Ever heard of you before, believe it or not.
So, Jim, can we talk about your background just for a few moments here, and then we will talk about all the exciting news going on around the world.
Sure, sure, sure.
Magna cum laude at Princeton, commissioned in the Marine Corps, resigned commission as a captain, entered graduate school, earned a PhD in the history and the philosophy of science, 35 years in higher education, mostly offered courses in logic, Critical thinking and scientific reasoning, devoting myself since my retirement to collaborative research on false flags and conspiracies for the benefit of the American people.
Excellent.
Very good, Jim.
And my goodness, I can't help but be happy staring at your face right now, Jim.
This is the very first time I actually get to see you when we're doing these interviews.
Nice.
Oh, yes.
And Jim, how is the family?
How is the wife?
How are your kids doing?
Is everyone okay?
Well, we have a division of the house in relation to the coronavirus, which I'm convinced is a fake pandemic and where the real problem is the vaccinations, which, so far as I can see, are going to actually weaken your immune system so that, say, a year from now, If you encounter viruses that would have been innocuous to you heretofore, they may have the capacity to kill you.
Where Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has emphasized that there's a sterility ingredient that three to six months after you take these shots, you're no longer capable of burying children.
So that I would particularly discourage young people who want to have a family from taking these shots.
We're of course wearing masks is completely detrimental to your health.
In fact, Anthony Fauci, to whom I refer as Tony the Rat, did a collaborative study on the Spanish Flu and discovered that the vast majority of the tens of millions who died from the Spanish Flu did not die from the flu, but from bacterial pneumonia, where Michael, guess what?
Wearing promotes bacterial pneumonia, so that when Fauci is out there telling us to wear not one, but even two or more masks, he's actually in the business of promoting the killing of the American people, where I'm convinced the agenda has three stages.
The masks killing us slowly, the injections more rapidly, but then most of the damage is going to be done from cutting off the food supply, massive starvation.
So that is deagle.com projects the U.S.
population is projected to go from 330 million in 2020 to less than 100 million, 99 million plus in 2025.
Now, Michael, that's a decimation of two-thirds of the U.S.
population, and I'm very, very sorry to say six or seven of the members of my family, close relatives, dear friends now, have taken the shot, and I'm Very concerned about the consequences.
Oh, my.
And I have to imagine your wife is very much on the side of pro-vaccine.
Well, see, most of the family is pretty much convinced by the mainstream narrative and my best efforts appear to be unavailing.
So I'm only hoping things will turn out for the best.
It would be devastating.
For me to lose any of these close members of my family, and yet I would predict, based on the statistics that I've seen, that I'm going to lose several.
Oh, my.
Yeah, absolutely.
This is a terrible situation for lots of Americans out there and those around the world.
Those who travel especially, they will be faced with that dilemma, whether their gig requires them to be vaccinated.
And of course, just traveling Oh, itself is another task at hand.
I mean, they will be requiring some sort of vaccine passport.
It seems James.
That's right.
They're going to, they're going to claim it's voluntary, but if you don't get the shot, you may not be able to fly.
You may not be able to use public transportation.
You may not be able to go to sports events that have large gatherings.
It's going to be extremely coercive.
And the fact of the matter is all this shop business is violative of international law, the Nuremberg Code, in particular, which was developed after World War II because Dr. Joseph Mengele was performing these exotic experiments on human subjects involuntarily.
Well, according to the Nuremberg Code, every person before they're subjected to an experimental vaccine, and all of these vaccines, by the way, whether we're talking Moderna or J&J or Pfizer, AstraZeneca None of them have been approved.
They're only for emergency use.
They're experimental.
And the consequences are simply enormous, which most Americans don't seem to understand.
The vaccine manufacturers under Ronald Reagan acquired immunity from liability for harms that were induced by their vaccines, up to and including death, which is why they've been so eager to promote their products.
Which don't properly qualify as though they were vaccines, but as multiple experts including Catherine Austin Fitz have observed, because they don't include any medicine, they're not actually designed as have been past vaccines, they don't strictly qualify.
They're injectables and what they're injecting is quite a variety of Elements that are going to be adverse to the human being, including, of course, they use aborted fetal tissue to make the injection.
They use multiple combinations of drugs which can set up an allergic reaction.
They're also, it appears, you know, they're using this mRNA component, which actually does a gene splicing.
It turns out to, even if the effects aren't immediate, actually have dramatic consequences for your immune system and not in a good way.
Now, by the Nuremberg Code, Michael, anyone before they're subjected to such a vaccine must be informed of all the benefits, but also all of the risks associated, which in this instance are considerable.
I mean, they go from kidney damage to blindness.
To paralysis.
I mean, the CDC puts out a relatively innocuous list that you have a sore shoulder or you might have perspiration or, you know, uneasy feeling.
But that's nonsense compared to the very, very serious consequences.
And I've gone through the UK report, which is far more accurate than anything we're going to get in the United States.
And it is just a devastating range, including death.
We're now the strictures on vaccines.
The criteria for the use of a vaccine are supposed to include first, that it's safe and effective.
Second, that it is preferable to available alternatives, which in this case would include intermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which are two products that have been around a long time.
And which have proven to be virtually 100% effective, but don't require vaccination and therefore don't dump money into the pockets of big pharma.
And where, indeed, in the third place, the risks associated with not taking the vaccine, in other words, from the alleged threat, are supposed to be greater than the risk from taking the vaccine.
But in this case, that appears to be precisely the opposite way around.
You got a virus.
The existence of which is in doubt on the basis of multiple considerations, such as a study that slipped through the cracks out of Johns Hopkins, showing that in every age group, and we're divided into about six different age groups, there was no increase in deaths in 2020 versus 2019, suggesting there is no pandemic.
And which is confirmed by the fact that since this is a respiratory disease, if there were vast numbers of patients in hospitals, they'd be consuming oxygen tanks at a rapid rate and IV stands and IV drips.
But there's been no increase in the use of oxygen tanks or IV drips and IV stands.
That suggests that it's all propaganda.
It's a mind trip.
And of course, what's going on really is the attempt to introduce the Great Reset, Michael, which is going to transform life on Earth and put us under the control of a tiny handful of masters who dominate and manage the entirety of planet Earth.
I mean, it's an absolutely despicable plan.
It'll reduce those of us who are left on Earth because there's a massive depopulation program associated to remove 85-90% of Earth's population decimated useless eaters, we were called by Henry Kissinger, where you're going to have, perhaps as Ted Turner projected, 500 million in the Earth's population.
We're up around 7 billion now.
That's quite a loss of 6.5 million of the Earth's population.
For the sake of just leaving enough to function as serfs and slaves for the masters who remain behind.
I mean, Michael, this is this is as diabolical a plan as we have ever seen in the history of civilization.
Well, Jim, thanks for scaring the hell out of me.
With all of that that you conveyed, you said a mouthful there, there's so many things I want to stop and ask you about, but first and foremost, The CDC's website, they have told me here, Jim, just four days ago that the COVID-19 vaccine, all the vaccines are safe and effective.
Millions of people in the United States have received the COVID-19 vaccine.
So Jim, I think if the CDC says it's safe, I mean, what's there to worry about, right?
Well, let me see if I can pull up some of the consequences you're not being informed about because the situation is truly, truly despicable, Michael.
Give me other issues you want to address while I find this because I think you're going to be a bit horrified to discover how much you've been misled by the CDC.
People need to understand this is basically a private organization.
It's not actually a part of the US government.
Here I found it.
Here's a weekly report on only what they admit.
This is out of the UK government.
This is for Pfizer adverse reactions reported on the 4th of March.
Blood disorders, 2,033.
Cardiac disorders, 1,032.
Congenital disorders, 3.
Hearing disorders, 713.
Endocrine disorders, 10.
Eye disorders, 1,242, including 12.
Blindness.
Gastrointestinal disorders, 9,360.
General disorders, 26,391.
Liver disorders, 17.
and 13 endocrine disorders, TNI disorders, 1242 including 12 blindness, gastrointestinal
disorders 9,360, general disorders 26,391, liver disorders 17, immune system disorders
466, infections of the heart, heart disease, heart disease, heart disease, heart disease,
Injuries, 393.
Continued investigation, 965.
Metabolic disorders, 525.
Muscle tissue disorders, 11,565.
Neoplasms, 20.
Nervous systems disorders, 16,107.
And associated with pregnancy, 29.
Psychiatric disorders, 1,235.
5. Metabolic disorders, 525. Muscle tissue disorders, 11,565.
Neoplasms, 20. Nervous systems disorders, 16,107. And associated with pregnancy,
29. Psychiatric disorders, 1,235. Renal urinary disorders, 187. Systemic reproductive
problems, 7,680. And associated with pregnancy, 10,780. And associated with pregnancy, 9,780.
And associated with pregnancy, Respiratory disorders, 3,575.
Skin disorders, 6,042.
Vascular disorders, 992.
respiratory disorders, 3,575, skin disorders, 6,042, vascular disorders, 992, dead, 212,
Dead, 212.
medical and surgical procedures, 45.
The list goes on, Michael.
This is a very, very bad situation.
Just a contrast with that list of what's actually happening in the UK.
Here's what the CDC says, possible reactions to COVID-19 vaccines.
Swelling, pain and redness at the injection site, fatigue, fever, headache, muscle pain, joint pain, chills.
Swollen lymph nodes, general unwell feeling, nausea and vomiting.
I don't think I want any of those things, Jim, but I was being sarcastic when I said the CDC, you know, they're saying it's safe, so nothing to worry about, Jim.
Oh, I knew you were being sarcastic.
I just wanted to bring some of the facts of the matter to bear here because the situation is truly hopeless.
I mean, Americans are so naive.
Americans are so gullible, Michael, that We seem to believe anything we're told, and it's very, very sad.
It's got to do with a dumbing down of America and the complete control of the press, the mainstream.
I agree.
You know, yeah, I agree completely, Jim.
And here's the thing.
I'm not exactly anti-vaccine or anything, but I am against taking anything that's proven unsafe.
And the vaccine here is an experimental drug.
There's never been anything like it before.
So I don't feel too safe.
taking something in my veins that I'm not too sure of.
Well, I'm remiss the thing because it's experimental, Michael.
If you were to die from this vaccine and remember now, none of the big pharma
are liable, even if their product kills you, because Ronald Reagan went along with a proposal to give
them an exemption on the ground that it was urgent that they do their product
and they were worried that they'd be sued out of existence.
Frankly, I think that would be a good thing were it to occur.
But because these are all that experimental, even your life insurance, if you were to die, will not pay off.
Meaning, yeah, it's got exceptions for experimental procedures.
Oh that I didn't know but Jim you know the thing is I don't have to travel or do anything like that so I don't feel like I have to take the vaccine but Jim you know those out there who have to travel back and forth again they have to make that decision and it is a Very damning decision to make to be honest. I can't tell
you how many horror stories I've reported upon I mean, I'm talking about the death of doctors and nurses
in fact Many of the frontline medical are being forced to take the
injection. They don't want to do it, but they're being forced to do it
Yeah, we have prominent cases like hammer and Hank Aaron who beat Babe Ruth's home run record dies
Just days after taking the injection and they will say that it was because of the injection
They don't even acknowledge it, but it's pretty obvious that it was indeed because of the injection
And then you had the famous boxer, you know, the best in his class ever that died shortly after taking the injection.
I mean, the list goes on.
It's really a horrific situation.
And yeah, it's a really shitty way to go out, Jim, to be honest, to die from taking a vaccine.
That's a terrible way to go out.
Well, it actually gets worse because what happens is from these vaccines, It turns out that when it weakens your immune system.
See, the way a normal vaccination works, Michael, is to introduce a mild version of the actual virus or bacteria or whatever to protect you from, so your body will build up antibodies.
Yes, sir.
But this method doesn't do it.
And this is why Catherine often fits, for example, says it's really not a vaccine.
It's an injection that may do you tremendous harm.
It includes this mRNA ingredient, which even the chief executive officer of Moderna admitted changes your DNA, which of course is, you know, the building blocks of your entire body.
And it does so in such a way that it makes you vulnerable the next time you are encountering this virus.
In such a way that when the virus hits your body, the body attacks your own body by virtue of the way it's been set up with this mRNA transition, so that you actually go through this kind of bodily reaction as though your whole body were on fire.
It's very bad, Michael.
I mean, the description I get from people who are true experts in the area is horrific.
It sounds horrific.
And by the way, I'm not quite sure if you heard the exchange between Fauci and Rand Paul recently, but I do have a clip of that for you here, Jim.
We could hear just a few more.
Sure, go ahead.
Yeah, Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist.
Of course, he's a physician.
He's not quite in the area, but Fauci is a rat.
I'm telling you, Fauci has done more damage To the United States, more devastation upon America than all of our foreign enemies combined.
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Emperor Hirohito.
Fauci has inflicted far more damage than all of them combined.
Well, no one can deny that he has not possessed some sort of inside information dating back to about 2013-14, I would say, in terms of the Wuhan lab.
But I'll get back to that in a moment here, because we're going to talk about the origins of it in a moment here.
But let's run the clip here, James, of Grant Paul versus Anthony Fauci, the rat, according to Jim here.
Dr. Fauci, in a recent British study, David Wiley and others found that No symptomatic reinfections from COVID-19 after following 2,800 patients for several months.
In fact, there have been no reports of significant numbers of reinfections after acquiring COVID-19 naturally.
Shane Crotty, a virologist at La Jolla Institute for Immunology, concludes from his experiments that the amount of immune memory gained from natural infection would likely prevent the vast majority of people from getting hospitalized disease, severe disease, for many years.
In this study, Which was published in Science.
Dr. Crotty showed that antibody levels stayed relatively constant with only modest declines over six to eight months.
Dr. Crotty reported that notably memory B cells specific for the spike protein or RBD were detected in almost all COVID-19 cases with no apparent half-life at five to eight months after infection.
In other words, Dr. Crotty found significant evidence of long-term immunity after COVID infection.
Furthermore, Dr. Karate noted B-cell memory to some other infections has been observed for as long as 60 plus years after smallpox vaccination, or even 90 years after natural infection with influenza.
That was a woman who got the Spanish flu, still showed immunity 90 years later.
That's pretty wild, by the way.
So rather than being pessimistic towards people gaining immunity after they've had COVID or had a vaccine, studies argue for significant optimism.
In fact, there have been no scientific studies arguing or proving that infection with COVID does not create immunity.
There have been no studies showing significant numbers of reinfections.
Of the 30 million Americans who have had COVID, only a handful of reinfections have been discovered.
In fact, the New York Times reported last fall more than 38 million people at the time worldwide had been infected with the coronavirus, and as of that date, fewer than five of these cases had been confirmed by scientists to be reinfections.
Scientists interviewed for the article concluded, in most cases, a second bout with the virus produced milder symptoms or none at all.
Given that no scientific studies have shown significant numbers of reinfections of patients
previously infected or previously vaccinated, what specific studies do you cite to argue
that the public should be wearing masks well into 2022?
I'm not sure I understand the connection of what you're saying about masks and reinfection.
We're talking about people Who have never been infected before.
You're telling everybody to wear a mask, whether they've had an infection or a vaccine.
What I'm saying is they have immunity and everybody agrees they have immunity.
What studies do you have that people who have had the vaccine or have had the infection are spreading the infection?
If we're not spreading the infection, isn't it just theater?
No, it's not.
You've had the vaccine and you're wearing two masks.
Isn't that theater?
No, it's not.
Here we go again with the theater.
Let's get down to the facts.
Okay, the studies that you quote from Crotty and Sette look at in vitro examination of memory immunity, which in their paper they specifically say this does not necessarily pertain to the actual protection.
It's in vitro.
And what study can you point to that shows significant reinfection?
There are no studies that show... Let me finish the response to your question, if you please.
The other thing is that when you talk about reinfection and you don't keep in the concept of variants, that's an entirely different ballgame.
That's a good reason for a mask.
In the South African study conducted by J&J, they found that people who were infected with wild type and were exposed to the variant in South Africa, the 351, It was as if they had never been infected before they had no protection.
So when you talk about reinfection, you've got to make sure you're talking about wild type.
I agree with you that you very likely would have protection from wild type.
For at least six months if you're infected, but we in our country now have variants that are circulating.
Significant reinfection.
What study shows significant reinfection, hospitalization, and death after either natural infection or the vaccine?
It doesn't exist.
There is no evidence that there are significant reinfections after vaccine.
In fact, I don't think we have a hospitalization in the United States After the two week period after the second vaccination.
Yeah, you have a death in the United States.
You're not hearing what I'm saying about variants.
We're talking about wild type.
Versus variants.
And what proof is there that there are significant reinfections with hospitalizations and death from the variants?
None in our country.
Zero.
Well, because we don't have a prevalent of a variant yet.
We're having one.
Can I finish?
We're having 117 that's becoming more dominant.
You're making a policy based on conjecture.
No.
It isn't based on conjecture.
So you want people to wear a mask for another couple years.
No.
You've been vaccinated.
and you parade around in two masks for show.
No.
No, you can't get it again.
There's virtually 0% chance you're gonna get it.
And yet you're telling people that have had the vaccine, who have immunity.
You're defying everything we know about immunity by telling people to wear masks who've been vaccinated.
Instead, you should be saying, there is no science to say we're going to have a problem
from the large number of people who've been vaccinated.
You want to get rid of vaccine hesitancy?
Tell them they can quit wearing their mask after they get the vaccine.
You want people to get the vaccine?
Give them a reward instead of telling them that the nanny state's going to be there for three more years and you got to wear a mask forever.
People don't want to hear it.
There's no science behind it.
Well, let me just state for the record that masks are not theater.
Masks are protective.
And we have immunity there, theater.
If you already have immunity, you're wearing a mask to give comfort to others.
You're not wearing a mask because of any sign.
I totally disagree with you.
The clip ends here, yes.
Dr. Fauci, if you could respond so that we could understand the difference between the virus itself and the variants and the reason for a mask.
I'm sorry, ma'am, I can't.
And now it is over.
That was quite the exchange with Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci.
What did you make of that, Jim?
Well, he could have been more effective if he knew more.
Let me just illustrate.
Fauci is playing a game here.
He's talking about variants.
He means mutations or variations on the coronavirus.
There turn out to be, I don't know, a hundred different species of coronavirus.
It's very common.
It's a common cold virus, flu virus, all that.
In this instance, the specific COVID-SARS-2 virus, which is how they're technically identifying this virus, has never been isolated.
And since it's never been isolated, they can't actually have a vaccine that would cure it.
What Fauci is deceiving and misleading by omission It's pointing out that this doesn't actually cure you.
You get the vaccine, you are not cured.
Not only that, you're still a transmitter.
All that this vaccine does is to reduce the surfacing of certain symptoms associated with this COVID.
That's number one.
It's not a cure, it's not a preventative, say unlike hydroxychloroquine, or Intermectin, those both actually work as cures.
A study published in the journal Virology in 2005 extolled the virtues of Chloroquine
and its milder derivative Hydroxychloroquine has been a miracle drug with regard to these
kinds of infections because they'll cure it if you've got it and they'll prevent it if
Then they work and early on we had physician after physician with large numbers of patients.
I mean hundreds of patients.
Explain how some of them were so severe that they were even hospitalized and of all these hundreds of patients, all of them, all of them recovered with say perhaps one single person.
Who probably had so many comorbidities that in fact they were going to die anyway.
Indeed, it looks as though as John Rappaport and Edward Hendry have repeatedly explained, That they're playing a game with us, a semantic game, in relation to the meaning of the word case, because I'll talk about the number of cases increasing.
Remember, Hillary came out and said, test, test, test.
Well, she knew that the method that was being used to test, the PCR test, which frankly was not developed to be a diagnostic instrument, but only a research instrument to multiply a sample so you'd have more sample to study.
It yields about 97% false positives.
That means if you're a case, meaning you've been testing positive by the PCR test, there's a 97% chance that you don't have it anyway.
Then there's a meaning of a case where you're actually supposed to be infected.
But since they haven't actually isolated and identified the virus, saying that you're infected is rather meaningless.
Particularly since Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota state senator, who was completely baffled when he discovered pressure from the hospital to declare the cause of death for a patient of his who had succumbed as COVID-19 when he'd never been tested for COVID-19.
Turns out that the hospitals have been paid from the beginning for admitting patients and identifying them as COVID-19.
They were getting 13 grand in the beginning, and for each one they put on a ventilator, 39.
And I'll tell you, going on a ventilator is not a thing you want to do because almost everyone who goes on a ventilator is basically killed by the ventilator.
So, it's not something you want to do.
But let me add this, Michael, about the absurdity of this mass business.
Let me illustrate regarding one of the best mass, which is the N95.
An N95 mask filters out particulate matter larger than 0.3 microns.
So the question then is how big is a COVID particle?
A COVID particle is about 0.1 microns.
The idea of people doing anything particularly useful by wearing a mask is just looney tunes.
It's too tiny.
It's too small, Michael.
Mask wearing doesn't do you any good.
Now, it also does you tremendous bad.
Why?
Obviously, on its face, you're recycling oxygen-depleted air, which means that you're killing brain cells, which need oxygen, and brain cells, unlike, say, skin cells, do not regenerate.
If you bruised your skin or, you know, got it coarsely shredded, you know, against a rough, maybe bricks or something, falling on concrete, that skin, those skin cells will regenerate.
They'll grow back.
But in the case of brain cells, when they're gone, it's forever, it's permanent.
Not only that, but you're putting a strain on your cardiovascular system that is going to, you know, lead to heart attacks.
We had a recent video of some athletes who wanted to see the difference between exercising with a mask and without a mask, and they had all the monitors set up and it dropped your oxygen level in your bloodstream, which is very serious and very hazardous.
I've already mentioned that the vast majority of those who died from the Spanish flu died from bacterial pneumonia.
Well, the occurrence of bacterial pneumonia is promoted by wearing masks.
So here you got this guy That most of the media, the media are fawning over that the public is given to believe is our leading national authority, lying, lying to the American people.
He's making big bucks out of this.
I got a report the other day that these vaccinations are making the companies 28 bucks a pop.
So, of course, they love the idea of vaccinating large numbers.
My gosh, Bill Gates' wet dream is to vaccinate the whole world.
Remember, Bill Gates is not a physician.
He's not an MD.
He's not a virologist.
He's not an epidemiologist.
He's a computer geek.
who managed to develop an operating system that was deliberately flawed so they could produce
additional patches and so forth. You have to keep updating and updating and updating.
He's taken some of his scoundrel techniques within the area of computer computing technology into the
area of human virology, where he's truly, truly not competent.
And yet for a couple of decades now, he's been telling us that the greatest risk to the extinction of the human race is not nuclear warfare.
And I say everyone, everyone in the world should watch the film Dr. Strangelove, Stanley Kubrick's greatest contribution to cinema, which I regard as a single most important film ever made in cinematic history.
About the risk for nuclear warfare, but rather a pandemic.
Now, we know that Fauci in 2017 predicted that the Trump administration would not only have to cope with seasonal flu and with HIV AIDS, where Fauci seems to have a checkered record there by promoting a false version of what was going on with AIDS, but A surprise pandemic.
And I say, well, if Fauci is predicting in 2017 a surprise pandemic, how can it be a surprise?
That's right.
And if Fauci is the guy in the administration who is designated for pandemic preparedness, how can it be that we were not prepared when Fauci knew it was coming in 2017, Michael?
The guy is a rat.
He is completely corrupt.
He's making a vast amount of money off of this.
He has patents in this area.
In fact, it turns out there are a whole lot of these coronavirus pandemic patents, you know, for cures and this and that and the other that were filed and secured before, before the pandemic.
This is like at Sandy Hook where some of the families put up donation websites before the alleged shooting that even occurred.
I mean, it's a tell.
It's informative if you know it.
Most Americans, however, are highly uninformed.
In fact, it's worse.
I think it may have been Mark Twain who observed that to know nothing is better than to hold false beliefs because then you're guided by the wrong information and don't know that what you believe to be true is actually false.
I think that's the situation we're in here, where Fauci is a false idol, he's giving false information, he's got a vested interest, and he's going to be a beneficiary, or so he believes, when the elitists control the world, that Fauci is going to be among those who are in control of the entirety of planet Earth.
Absolutely, and you know, all of this reminds me of Agenda 21, Jim, and of course, everyone out there who's been following Conspiracy theories, I guess you can say.
I don't even like to say that anymore because all of them have sort of come true.
All these things that we thought were just, you know, wacky conspiracies are actually reality now.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I mean, look, I did a couple of pieces recently about Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was taken off of her committee assignments because of the position she took on six or eight issues.
I've done a lot of research on those, so I published an article going through all the claims against Marjorie Taylor Greene, which were supposed to be all these conspiracy fantasies.
And in every case, Marjorie Taylor Greene's position was basically correct and true, and those who were denying were wrong and embracing false beliefs.
It inspired me to write a sequel entitled Conspiracy Theorists Are Investigating Crimes.
No wonder they want to silence us.
Very nice.
And Jim, I mean, years and years ago, I remember online and in books, they were saying the, excuse me, they were saying the elites have been preparing us for some sort of great transition or Transformation.
They've been saying that for years and now it's right in front of us.
That's right.
Now it's right in front of us, right in our face.
I've got a new piece, Michael, on my blog about why people want to deny conspiracies.
And it's very interesting because given the enormity of the evidence and the fact that it turns out to be Typical political leaders tend to be sociopaths.
They want to have power and manage other people's lives.
They're not out there because they're idealists and want to improve America or the living conditions for its citizens, but for Well, very improper and deleterious purposes, but the most can't bring themselves to even imagine that, for example, the government, which they view as nurturing and supportive, could actually have figures like, say, Tony the Rat out there who are giving us false advice that's intended to actually kill us.
But that's the agenda.
That's a massive depopulation agenda.
They have sought to destroy the country.
David Icke was way out in front on this, and one of the most brilliant figures on the face of earth, David Icke, was already right off the bat.
observing that this was an attack on the middle class, that it was intended to wipe out small businesses,
which make money, make the revenue for the middle class.
Because if you wipe out the middle class small businesses, they have no money, they become dependent on the government.
So that's the idea.
Yeah, it's a domino effect, no doubt.
Well, and to affect a massive transfer of property to the powerful and the rich, you buy this stuff up,
you know, in pennies on the dollar.
I mean, this whole COVID thing has witnessed the greatest transformation of redistribution of wealth to the rich from the middle class.
And now the Democrats, of course, don't want to redistribute to the minorities.
I mean, it's just absurd what's going on here.
We have Oakland right in the vanguard here wanting to give $500 to minority families as a form of equality.
And of course, we have a tremendous amount of anti-white, really a virulent strain of anti-white racism of a character we've never seen before in the United States.
I mean, think of what happened in South Africa.
You know, they had an apartheid society where the whites were in control, the blacks were the minority.
When the situation switched, And the blacks came in control.
They persecuted and murdered the whites and took their property.
It turned out that they didn't know what to do with it once they had it.
This is almost on a par with Charlie Manson's Helter Skelter scenario, which Vince Mugliosi wrote about, where Charlie wanted to precipitate a race war between the blacks and the whites.
And although the whites were smarter, the blacks were stronger.
So Charlie anticipated the blacks would defeat the whites, but they needed leadership because they didn't know then what to do.
And Charlie and his band were going to come out of the mountains and give them leadership.
I mean, it's something along that line.
The Democratic Party has gone completely haywire.
Every program they're promoting is an absurdity.
Remember, think back on it.
Now they want to take away our guns.
Well, bear in mind, last summer they were promoting the platform Defund the Police.
Has there ever been a stupider proposal to campaign on the Defund the Police?
Even residents of Harlem, who are being interviewed, were asked what they thought about Defund the Police.
They said, Defund the Police?
They said that would be suicide!
That's right.
I've got to say, you know, I'm as liberal as the next guy.
Maybe even Maybe even more radical than a liberal, but I mean, even I think that's kind of insane.
Why would you want to defund the police?
That's ludicrous, Jim, at best.
But I got to make an observation here, Jim.
No matter which side you are on and what opinion you are passionate about, I always see everyone on every side actually play the victim mentality card for whatever reason.
For whatever reason, Jim, everyone feels like they are a victim somehow.
Have you noticed that?
I don't feel myself to be a victim except the stupidity that Democrats have become a party of tyranny.
Look at this.
What do we have at the border?
Trump actually had a handle on the border.
Trump had controlled the border.
They should have completed the wall.
They had all the migrants waiting in Mexico until they could be processed.
Now they have basically, not literally, but figuratively torn down the wall.
We have an influx.
It's going to add up to millions.
The Democrats like this because they're going to enroll them.
They think they're going to be Democrat voters.
They're coming in.
They're going to get all kinds of benefits from the welfare state.
But as many have observed in the past, you cannot have open borders and a welfare state.
I'm all about legal migration and all of that, Jim, but right now is not the time to be doing that, especially with... I thought there was a COVID situation going on, Jim.
I'm all about legal, legal migration and all of that, Jim.
But right now is not the time to be doing that, especially with, I thought there was
a COVID situation going on, Jim.
Why would you want to bring in these people?
Michael, it's insane.
It's completely insane.
It's totally irrational.
Okay, listen to this.
Rationality, there are three different varieties.
Rationality of belief, rationality of action, and rationality of ends.
I mean, I've published on this.
In fact, I drew those distinctions, but they're very clear once you contemplate.
That's what philosophers do much of the time.
We recognize and explain and theorize about distinctions that, once you recognize them, are as plain as day.
Rationality ends, for example, entails not seeking ends that are historically or physically or logically impossible.
Historically, you can't be the first man to marry Elizabeth Taylor, for example.
Right?
Already been done, or climbed Mount Everest, or whatever.
Physically, you can't travel faster than the speed of light, because that's the fastest speed at which anything can travel.
So, you know, if you were aspiring to travel faster than the speed of light, or be the first person to marry Elizabeth Taylor, you'd have irrational ends.
They could not be satisfied.
And it's also the case that what figures here is whether or not you have the technological capability.
Just to offer an illustration of a popular myth, We didn't go to the Moon because we couldn't go to the Moon.
We didn't have the propulsion capability to escape low Earth orbit.
We didn't have the computer power to navigate.
We didn't have the way to protect our shield from the Van Allen radiation belt.
And here's a nice point.
If we got there, we didn't have the ability to come back.
Think of the enormity of the spacecraft we shot up and the little tiny thing that was sitting on the Moon.
I mean, It's just incredible, Michael, how dumb Americans can be without thinking about very obvious issues.
We didn't have the capacity to get off of the Moon.
We couldn't escape.
Even though Moon only has one-sixth the gravitational attraction of Earth, we didn't have enough power to escape Moon gravitation.
We couldn't have got off if we got there.
But, of course, we couldn't get there in the first place.
So, something I do in my research is draw these distinctions between logical impossibilities, physical impossibilities, which entail violating the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, and so forth, and technical impossibilities, or technological.
We did not have the technological capacity to go to the moon.
The whole thing was manufactured.
Here's one of the simplest illustrations you could possibly have.
The Earth has 55 times the density of the Moon, meaning Earth is roughly speaking about 55 times the size of the Moon.
They showed us a photograph that was supposed to be of Earth from the Moon, but Remarkably enough, the relative size of the Earth from the Moon was the same as the Moon from the Earth, because they simply took a photograph of the Moon from the Earth and made it out to be Earth.
If it had actually been Earth from the Moon, it completely dominated the visual field, because it's so much more humongous than the Moon.
I mean, this is just so stupid.
It's beyond belief.
But people buy it, Michael.
They buy it.
So, with my background in the history and the philosophy of science, and as a professor Critical thinking and scientific reasoning, I seek to explain these things and how you can tell when you're being played, if something is either not logically, why you can't, you know, put a square peg in a round hole, or physically, like traveling faster than the speed of light, or technically possible, like traveling to the moon when we didn't have even the rocket capacity to escape low Earth orbit, they didn't happen.
They were not real.
So, if you're big enough story that that's what happened, It's bullshit.
It's just bullshit.
And it turns out that today we get nothing from our politicians but mountains of bullshit.
It's just embarrassing, embarrassing.
It's shocking.
The United States has been reduced to a joke among nations.
You got a cognitively incompetent president, can't complete a sentence.
During this press conference he gave yesterday, he was reading answers off of cue cards.
He'd been given the questions in advance.
Did you see that that was embarrassing?
And even at that, he said when he first entered the Senate 120 years ago.
I mean, look, this guy is cognitive.
He's an imbecile.
He's a functional imbecile.
And I want you to notice, too, the absurdity of the claim that he received more votes than any other candidate in history, including, for example, Barack Obama, about whom the whole nation was wildly enthusiastic.
Joe Biden, in three efforts of running for president, didn't win a single caucus, not one, or a single primary, not one, until South Carolina, when the Democrats and Google came to his assist and began artificially inflating his voting total.
Kamala Harris was the first Democrat to drop out.
Kamala Harris didn't even make it to Iowa.
She didn't even make it to Iowa, for God's sake.
And by the way, Jim, I have to ask you, you know, they were saying that Biden would eventually drop out of the race and it would be Kamala Harris would take the seat eventually.
It's not possible, Michael.
I mean, this is just stupid beyond belief.
And by the way, Jim, I have to ask you, you know, they were saying that Biden
would eventually drop out of the race and it would be Kamala Harris would
take the seat eventually.
And, you know, I kind of dismissed those notions and theories a long time ago.
But now after.
Absolutely!
Absolutely!
I've been thinking of our friend Biden a number of times now.
I'm starting to believe we might see him exit the stage forever.
Dr. Bernie Sanders Oh sure, absolutely.
That's the plan.
Kamala Harris is a flyweight.
She's a nobody.
She's incompetent.
She doesn't have a functional brain.
The level of her IQ, I'm going to guess about 95.
To have this person in the most important position of any office in the world, this
is an insult.
It's reckless.
It's totally irresponsible.
And that's what the Democratic Party have done for us.
They ran totally unqualified candidates who were not equal to the task and put the entire nation at jeopardy because they were going to want to regain control of the political apparatus of the United States.
And now they're doing the United States great harm.
They're not only implementing the Calurgy Plan, which was one devised by a Zionist way back when to destroy the culture of Europe by massive influx of Africans, which you may notice has taken place.
They now want to destroy the culture of America by a massive influx of Central and South Americans.
You've heard all those stories about them, you know, walking a thousand miles.
What rubbish!
They're walking a thousand miles and they look like they just came out of a shower and they got clean clothes and they're wearing sandals and flip-flops?
Try marching one mile, you know, much less a thousand in sandals and flip-flops.
You'll see how absurd.
I obtained, when I was doing a series about this way back when, I'm talking a couple years ago, I found video of the convoys that were transporting all the immigrants to very near to the border and they were massive truck convoys and on the doors of the trucks was the Star of David.
Oh my goodness!
By the way, I'm glad you mentioned that because I have to make note here for those that don't know.
Those in Mexico, they don't want the Hondurans to cross the river as well.
They actually shoot at the Hondurans all the time and of course, Uh, depending on how much money they have, some of them are
actually being, uh, taken across large masses of land by cartel members in Mexico and
transported under that bridge that everyone's talking about over there in Texas, uh, Jim.
Well, even the president of Mexico has observed that Donald Trump was had a handle on this
and the Biden administration does not.
I mean, look, Mexico.
Take Mexico, for example.
Mexico has two simple propositions.
There may be more, but these are the most basic for immigration into Mexico.
Number one, you must be able to demonstrate that you have something, a skill, an ability, a background, whatever, to contribute to the good of Mexico.
You have to show you have something you can give to Mexico that would make Mexico better.
Number two, You have to be able to show you have the financial resources to support yourself and your family, whoever you want to bring into Mexico.
None of this is true of these people, this floodgate.
And the Biden people won't even let reporters go down there because the situation is so horrific.
And as you were observing before, I mean, look, one of the reasons why Donald Trump became very, very popular among blacks and Latinos is because by 2000, December 2019, Rasmussen was releasing polls showing that he was going to receive 40% of the likely black vote.
40%!
And that was because by clamping down on immigration at the borders, it was possible for the lowest Earning wage earners to see their wages rise at the highest rate.
In other words, they were improving because they weren't constantly having their jobs taken away from them by immigrants who were willing to work for lower wages.
So Trump had it all figured out.
But you see, Trump as a businessman used to dealing with billion dollar projects.
He was well qualified for the office of President of the United States.
Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Barf makes me gag.
This is just a joke and it's damaging and putting at risk every single citizen of the United States.
And here's a clip from our friend Joe Biden.
Here we go, Jim.
You also just made some news by saying that you are going to run for reelection.
I said that is my expectation.
So is that a yes that you are running for re-election?
Look, I don't know where you guys come from, man.
I've never been able to travel.
I'm a great respecter of fate.
I've never been able to plan four and a half, three and a half years ahead for certain.
And if you do run, will Vice President Harris be on your ticket?
I would fully expect that to be the case.
She's doing a great job.
She's a great partner.
She's a great partner.
And do you believe you'll be running against former President Trump?
Oh, come on.
I don't even think about it.
I have no idea.
I have no idea whether it'll be a Republican Party.
Do you?
I know you don't have to answer my question, but I mean, you know, do you?
Well, to be fair, I think Biden was being honest.
I don't think he really does have any idea what's going on.
Right.
You're correct.
He's being honest.
That would be an honest answer from Joe Biden to any question you ask about virtually any subject.
Oh, my goodness.
I had no idea he was this bad, Jim.
You know, I tried to give him a shot, but Holy shit, he's embarrassing himself.
Oh, yeah.
It's ridiculous.
And as I observed earlier, he obviously had the questions in advance because he was answering them based upon cue cards.
He had three by five cards in his hand.
Can you believe that?
He can't have the answers in advance unless he has the questions in advance.
That's bad though, Jim.
I mean, having these cheat sheets that you have, you have the names of the reporters, the photos there.
It's a little too much for me to take.
I mean, this is supposed to be the leader of the greatest nation on earth.
It's pathetic.
It's pathetic.
It is a joke.
And get this, it turns out this Biden press secretary worked for an Israeli spy firm.
And what Americans don't understand is the extent to which the American Congress is under the control of AIPAC, the American-Israeli Political Action Committee.
And it turns out that Cynthia McKinney years and years ago reported, and I believe it was
on Iranian television and press TV, where in the past I made a lot of interviews where
she explained that new candidates are asked to sign a pledge to put the interests of Israel
ahead of those of the United States.
And anyone who doesn't finds their finances just disappear.
Well, I had an expert on Israel by the name of Phil Giraldi, a former CIA officer, and
a very, very competent guy, in my opinion, one of the leading experts on the Middle East,
on my own show on Revolution Radio today, and he was confirming all of that to be the
case.
I was also talking with him about 9-11, which we both agree was an Israeli op, but where I have concluded the CIA was also involved, and he was wanting to suggest the CIA was not involved.
But I drew him into a conversation about Osama bin Laden, and he agreed with all of the following.
Osama was our man in Afghanistan.
Osama was instrumental in getting Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen.
They used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and planes to drive them out of the nation.
Osama was an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
Osama was visited by an official of the CIA in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death on 15 December 2001.
In Afghanistan, where he was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
He, of course, had kidney problems and others, and it's tough to get those dialysis machines in and out of the caves in Afghanistan.
Hold on, hold on, Jim.
Let me stop you one moment.
As soon as you were talking about that, the memory in my head of the White House photo op situation room during the operation to assassinate Osama bin Laden, when you had Hillary sitting down there and you had President Obama
sitting there.
That was all bullshit, wasn't it, Jim?
Yeah, he'd been dead for 10 years.
Good Lord.
Obama found it politically expedient to resuscitate Osama so he could kill him again in a staged
raid in Pakistan and present himself for a triumphal re-election as the man who got the
most wanted man in the world, but it was all 100% political theater.
100%.
That was a staged photograph.
They pretended they were looking at a large screen TV following the event in real time, but Leon Panetta, who was then the director of the agency, let the cat out of the bag that there hadn't been any live coverage for the first 20 to 25 minutes, which was the entire time of the whole operation, meaning the whole thing was fraudulent.
The photograph was staged, all propaganda.
It's just embarrassingly bad.
It turns out, of course, it's this Obama guy also, also nullified the Smith-Mutt Act of
1948 by the Smith-Mutt Modernization Act of 2012, where the Smith-Mutt Act of 1948 precluded
the use of the same techniques of propaganda and disinformation within the United States
that were being used without, which includes staged projections, phony events that were
political theater designed to influence a population.
And he did it by means of this so-called Modernization Act in 2012, just in time to bring a sandy
hook.
What he did, in other words, was to legitimize all these phony shootings.
We've just seen another example in Boulder and other events that are staged for political purposes.
Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, Las Vegas.
If you go to my blog and check out this recent article about why are there conspiracy deniers, When, in fact, the reasons to believe in the existence of conspiracies is simply overwhelming.
In fact, Michael, it turns out that conspiracy is the most widely prosecuted crime in the United States.
Conspiracy to fraud, conspiracy to kidnap, conspiracy to this.
Most American conspiracies are economic, but the fact is it only requires two or more individuals collaborating to bring about an illegal end.
I bet it in that article about conspiracy deniers.
A presentation I gave in Seattle in 2018, entitled False Flags on Five Fronts, where I give you a summary overview of Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Charlottesville, Las Vegas, and even JFK, because we had then just discovered that the body used for some of the morgue shots wasn't even the body of JFK.
My goodness, and you know what all these things have in common, by the way?
Parkland high school shooter, the Boston Marathon bombers, the Fort Hood shooter, all these people, they all had one thing in common, Jim.
The FBI knew all about them way before they even committed these acts.
Well, you know, this is very interesting, because as I was talking with Giraldi, I was thinking, well, the CIA hadn't played this role, who had?
And the obvious candidate is the FBI.
The FBI has probably been involved in staging a lot of these events.
Sandy Hook was a two-day FEMA drill.
It was a mass casualty exercise involving children.
We even found the manual, which I included in the book as appendix A, which is why they had, Amazon had to ban it.
Would you believe, Michael, of the dozen books that we have published at Moonrock Books, six have been banned by Amazon.
So, Dr. Seuss is just keeping up with Jim Fetzer, because I had six books banned on Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, and the moon landing, though that appears to have been not because of all the evidence we didn't go to the moon, but because there's a section with some of the best essays ever written dispatching the whole Holocaust narrative.
Those were work camps.
Hundreds of babies were born there.
Did you know there was a UK soccer team at Auschwitz, Michael?
That I didn't know.
My God.
I put a photo of it on the back of the book.
My God, I'm going to have to check that out.
And Jim, I know we are sort of hard pressed on time here, but I would feel remiss if I didn't ask you about Elon Musk and SpaceX when, you know, there's headlines of him saying that, you know, he plans to go to Mars well before 2030.
And I'm just very curious what your thoughts and opinions are on all this, all this stuff that, um, Well, Michael, I'll tell you what I know and how I know it, and when I don't.
I mean, I've not paid a lot of attention to Elon Musk, frankly, but I'll tell you, it sounds to me like a complete fantasy.
We didn't go to the moon.
Anyone who tells you we could go to Mars is Shoveling quite a lot of it in my opinion.
So I think that's all very unlikely I think he was gonna make a commercial business of it, right?
He was gonna have people pay a million dollars to go to Mars or something like that.
I mean It just sounds to me like a crock I'm kind of with you on that.
It doesn't really sound that legit at all.
By the way, it sounds like BS in other words and I know you were talking about the Moon earlier, and there's so much to get into about the Moon, especially with the ability to film anything on the Moon.
It's so goddamn hot there, Jim, the film would be destroyed to develop.
Oh, I think cosmic rays would make it impossible, and of course the temperature variation.
I mean, it's like 350 above or 350 below, depending on whether you're in the white or the shade.
I mean, it's just outrageous.
Look, I have done a huge amount about the moon landings, and if you can get on to JimTheConspiracyGuy.com, which people have told me recently they're having a hard time, Very nice.
There's one of my presentations and there are about 65 that are available there of the
moon landing, how we know we didn't go.
Check it out.
You'll love it.
Very nice.
And of course, if anyone is wanting more information on Jim Fetzer, definitely go to moonrockbooks.com
and of course his official website, that's jamesfetzer.org.
Jim, once again, I do want to thank you for being a part of the program.
Always an honor and pleasure to have you here.
There's so much to discuss with you, but time is always against us.
It's never on our side.
But Jim, you will return here and we will talk about Sandy Hook and the moon further.
I would love to talk about that with you again.
A hundred percent, Michael.
I really enjoy you as a host.
You're perhaps my favorite.
I really like doing shows with you, my friend.
That really means a lot to me, Jim, by the way.
I just want you to know that, since, you know, a lot of people hear me say that, but I want you to know that that is not bullshit.
I am completely honored that you feel that way about me, since you've been around the block, Jim.
You've been interviewed by thousands of people before, so for you to say that to me, I'm blown away.
I just feel great simpatico with you, Michael, and, you know, it's just there.
It's a reality.
That's right, Jim.
Well, I love you to death, Jim.
I want nothing but the best for you, and we will do this again in the near future, my friend.
A hundred percent, Michael, and thanks very much for inviting me tonight.
You got it, brother.
Take care.
Thank you.
Good night.
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