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Dr. Carrie Madej | Vaccines, Eugenics, & The COVID19 Hidden Agendas

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	Como estas, everyone?
	Another episode of Real Perfect Podcast.
	I'm your host, Riccardo Vence.
	I didn't do it that well.
	Riccardo Vence, also known as Ricky Varanis.
	That's much better.
	And today we have a great, great conversation with Dr. Carrie Madej.
	She's actually been recently kicked off YouTube.
	I believe she's on Bitchute.
	I'll put links to her social media accounts, her Twitter account, Bitchute account, all that stuff in the show description.
	We talk, of course, about what else?
	COVID-19, the new vaccine, transhumanism, all the future agendas that are being pushed.
	And really, really interesting conversation.
	We go into her history and her background immediately in the beginning of the conversation, so I won't annoy you or bore you with telling you that now.
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	Let people know a little bit about who you are and where you came from and how we got here.
	Well, I was born and raised in Michigan and then I went into medical school in Kansas City, Missouri, osteopathic school.
	I ended up training in Georgia, Michigan, and Florida.
	I ended up doing my residency and internship in Georgia.
	And opened two practices, and I owned my last one, and medical director of both of those, and also an attending physician for medical students.
	I was a teacher for medical students for eight years.
	And in that whole time, I'm a person who likes to look for the root cause, and that was my training in medical school as well, not just treat the symptoms.
	And looking for causes, I'm also a person that's really good.
	I learn by patterns.
	I can pick up patterns pretty well.
	So that's kind of a nice gift to have when you're a physician.
	So combining all of those, looking for causes, looking for patterns, I picked up on things that I wasn't taught about in medical school.
	For instance, how a lot of my cancer patients were coming from areas that had a lot of arsenic in the water.
	And that was being covered up by the state.
	The EPA was reporting on it, but the state covered it up, you know.
	I had a lot of liver transplant patients, or they were going to get a transplant, found out they had copper toxicity from an industry that was dumping copper illegally in the area.
	And that's actually reversible, okay?
	But the thing is, I found that these were being covered up because they didn't want you to know what the bigger cause was.
	But in the end, it was hurting people.
	So it opened my eyes to a lot.
	And, and also we don't get training in vaccines, very little as physicians, people don't really realize that in my medical school.
	And when I was looking into vaccines, because, um, to make a long story short, I realized that the tetanus vaccine was, is really a sterilization or an abortion vaccine has been created to be that purpose since the 1970s by the National Institute of Health.
	And you can look that up.
	You can Google it still.
	You don't have to go on a special search engine.
	And you will find reports in Kenya and in India, as well as Latino countries, of them verifying that it has the HCG or the pregnancy hormone inside of it.
	So the more vaccines you get, the more likely your body will attack a pregnancy and you will abort or won't implant.
	So, I mean, look at that, tetanus vaccine, that's supposed to be for this crazy, dangerous bacteria, and really it was for a whole other purpose.
	I mean, that really blew my mind away.
	And I take my oath, my Hippocratic oath, seriously, and I take my profession seriously.
	I feel like it's an honor and a privilege to take care of other people's lives.
	And so when I found this out, I was horrified and I felt like, okay, I need to really Really be a critical thinker and look at everything and not just believe what the protocols are from the board or from the CDC or anybody, right?
	Do my own critical thinking and research.
	So, in doing that, I found lots of other things, crazy infections going on in the area.
	And, you know, with uncovering a lot of these sources, you think you would have people excited, you're saving Insurance companies money.
	That would be a great thing, right?
	Well, I got the attention of a lot of insurance companies and a lot of government entities, public health departments, CDC, but not for the reasons I thought.
	I was told to stop testing people, to stop treating them for the diseases, stop having the labs.
	They didn't like the labs out there to show what was causing the real issues, the real causes of diseases.
	And of course it opened my eyes to really what the industry was all about.
	It was really about keeping people sick and maintaining them sick.
	You never take them off the drugs.
	You don't talk about the causes.
	You just treat the sick people.
	And I'm not like that.
	So I became very outspoken for my patients.
	And I attended meetings, scientific and business meetings.
	I was recruited to certain groups that I did not agree with their mentality.
	I don't know if you've heard me speak about those meetings that I've attended, but I think because I was very good at diagnosing things, that was an interest to some people, so I was recruited for meetings that, you know, you say, they were on the side of, how do we control humanity?
	And they thought, hey, you know, maybe you'd be a good candidate, you know, to be on the other side of controlling humanity, and I don't agree with that.
	But that knowledge has led me to know what was going on today.
	And so when I saw what was happening with this plandemic, I knew I had to speak up and do whatever I could to get the message out and to warn everybody around the world what the plan is, because it is the most pivotal time in our history right now.
	And I believe we have a window of time to act upon it.
	So you weren't new to questioning the mainstream narrative and all this stuff.
	It wasn't like the COVID thing is what really, you know, got your attention and made you question things.
	It was way before that, right?
	That is correct.
	Yes.
	So you could see, and because you're good at picking up on patterns, you could see a pattern of BS and something was going on here more than meets the eye.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just, I think the lay person can look at this.
	Look at the broad symptom base that we have for this COVID-19.
	And the other thing is, no one's bringing this up.
	Why are we treating it with antibiotics if it's a virus?
	And it's successful.
	That means you're dealing with a bacteria.
	Then you're dealing with an anti-parasitic medicine, which is successful.
	That's a parasite.
	Okay, so obviously we're dealing with a large variety of different kinds of infections in people that we're not addressing.
	That should tell you already that they're not telling us the truth.
	So, I mean, you don't have to have a degree in medicine to understand there's something wrong with that already.
	Yeah, I've had Mickey Willis on my show, who did the Plandemic documentary, and it was one of the most suppressed documentaries ever.
	And when you look at the suppression of him, I've had Dr. Scott Jensen on, who's from Minnesota, 2016 Physician of the Year.
	He's a senator.
	He was just basically being outspoken about the new CDC guidelines in regards to COVID deaths and his concerns.
	He gets censored.
	I mean, when you see censorship Speaking about vitamin D and vitamin C, just typical things
	that we all kind of accepted were things that helped your immune system prior to this
	all of a sudden became dangerous information that you can't discuss and you get censored.
	That alone, I think, should have opened a lot of people's eyes, because I think once somebody decides for you what truth is, then that's a concern, you know.
	And I always say on this show, I'm not, well, I mean, my personal views of vaccines are strong, but I'm for everybody getting both sides of the argument, and then people deciding for themselves.
	If you get both sides of the argument, and then you still believe that The risk of not vaccinating is higher than the risk of vaccinating, then that's okay.
	But my biggest problem with the vaccine debate is the fact that people aren't getting the other side of the argument.
	And now it's almost become impossible.
	You know, I've had Del Bigtree on the show a bunch of times.
	I've had Dr. Brian Hooker, who was the guy who, you know, connected with Dr. William Thompson, the CDC, you know, whistleblower story.
	And, you know, he was the author of a study that was suppressed from the public.
	I mean, these are things that are actually happening.
	And the fact that in all other aspects of life, if I got a second opinion from a doctor and he disagreed with the first opinion that I got from a doctor, completely acceptable that people can look at information, analyze it and come up with a different conclusion.
	This was the only time publicly that it's like, no, no, no.
	Any doctor that has a second opinion, that's pseudoscience.
	They're crazy.
	Like, the only opinion that's acceptable are these doctors, and everybody else is insane.
	And people have to ask, like, why?
	Why?
	And I think you touch on it.
	It is a bigger agenda.
	It always has been.
	You know, if you're looking back just to vaccines from the 1970s, our own National Institute of Health has admitted, yeah, we've been creating this vaccine for a
	whole different purpose than what we've told you. And we don't care that we're telling
	you that. What are you going to do about it?
	So is it kind of like a label use of a vaccine the same way you would off label use a prescription?
	You're basically off label use. They're just saying, yes, that's what we did.
	That's even off label. That means the whole purpose of the vaccine is right there in front
	of our face, because how I discovered this was actually when I was a teenager, I asked everybody,
	Why do we get this tetanus vaccine?
	Why do I have to get the booster?
	Because of this mysterious bacteria that if it gets inside of me, I was a tomboy, you know, like kids were back then.
	I always got cuts and scrapes and I was in the dirt and mud, whatever.
	I never got this mysterious illness.
	I didn't get my booster.
	So supposedly the bacteria gets in you and then within minutes to hours, minutes to hours, not days, You could get so sick that your muscles would spasm so bad, you'd curl up in a ball and suffocate to death because of the spasm.
	Okay, that's what we're taught even through med school.
	It's called lockjob.
	I have never heard of a case in the news anywhere.
	Come on, there'd be one case you heard of.
	And so when I asked everybody throughout my medical residency, they did research, these attendings did research, they came back and they said, well, we don't have one bona fide case of a human dying of tetanus in this way that was ever proven by science, a lab.
	Ever, never in the world.
	Okay.
	So that doesn't exist.
	Why are we doing that?
	Just one, but many shots of a human.
	So they told me to shut up.
	I was always told to shut up when I questioned, don't talk about it.
	If I question anymore, I would be blackballed.
	We always were, we were all threatened.
	We would be blackballed from the industry.
	We wouldn't work again.
	Always many times, but I noticed in one of the hospitals, By chance, there was a protocol there where certain people did not get the tetanus vaccine, others did.
	They got all the other vaccines.
	And the only difference between the two groups was fertility.
	The ones that didn't get it were extremely fertile.
	They gave tons of kids, even with poor care.
	And the others that did get it were not fertile.
	So I did a research and you'll find out, yeah, I mean, it's been used as a fertility, anti-fertility agent for decades now.
	Wow.
	Now that there's government entities agreeing with this and still using it recently, and they don't care about telling us anymore, how can you trust any of these vaccines?
	And then you look at the history of the vaccines, it's horrifying.
	And then you look at with all the vaccine doses that we give, when they go up and up and up, we have more autism and more cancer.
	And the CDC has now told us that by the year 2025 to 2035, that 50% of all children born will be on the autistic spectrum.
	50%!
	We cannot survive.
	Why is that not the real pandemic we're talking about?
	And we do have scientific proof about the correlation with autism and cancer with these vaccines, how they have been injecting cancer-causing viruses.
	The MMR is one of the worst ones.
	We do know that they're selecting out certain races.
	That we know of African American boys with the MMR vaccine have five times greater chance of getting autism.
	And you know, I remember that report coming out, how sad it was.
	I remember talking about it with colleagues and remember nobody, they looked at it, but no one said a word and nothing was done.
	I mean, what have we come to?
	It's not just these government entities.
	It's all of us.
	All of us need to be accountable and responsible for our fellow brothers and sisters around the world.
	We've got to get back that caring for one another again, caring for humanity.
	Yeah, without a doubt.
	I mean, there's a bill that was being passed in DC.
	Giving 11 year olds consent to vaccines at school.
	I mean, stuff like that.
	I mean, that's how far.
	I mean, you hear about having to show that you took in the vaccine to fly, to go to concerts, all this stuff.
	I mean, and then you look at all the tracking.
	You've talked about this.
	I've talked about this on the show when it was first downloaded on people's phones.
	I'm like, go to your phone, go to your apps, look at where it says health.
	You have contact tracing app on your phone.
	It says it's not on, but if it can be downloaded without you knowing, why can't it be turned on without you knowing?
	It's obviously already always listening to you and tracking you anyway, so what else would it be doing that it's not already doing?
	So it's just like, you know, it just, to me, it's madness.
	I mean, and it's crazy that so many parents, when, like in, I live in Massachusetts, where they started mandating kids when, if you went back to school, you have to have the flu vaccine.
	They mandated that because Charlie Baker is a dictator, but he, they, They mandate that.
	And so many parents that I know are like, oh, screw that.
	I'm not doing that.
	And I'm just like, wait, wait, wait.
	You do realize, like, technically all these other vaccines have been mandated to go to school anyways.
	I mean, my kids have religious exemptions.
	But, you know, the majority of parents are just accepting that everything that the school system tells you, you have to get.
	You have to get and I have a friend of mine who I don't know if it's a sister-in-law or his sister who works at the CDC and we've talked about this and I've kind of grilled him a little bit on it and then he one time he finally opened up a little bit and he's like they know he's like if a vaccine gets passed he's like it's like printing money you know you think about every single kid you know and there's tons of them you know tons of kids that their parents are just gonna If it's on the schedule, they're just going to get it for him.
	They're just going to give him the vaccine, not ask any questions, not look at the inserts, not see if there's any side effects, not learn about anything.
	You know, it's like, to me, it is one of those things where, like, if you honestly want to believe Big Pharma, which is hilarious because, I mean, they're criminals.
	I mean, you can see lawsuit after lawsuit, fraud, fraud, you know, suppressed information, suppressed studies.
	I mean, the fact that A prescription drug only has to be better than a placebo to be, you know, approved anyways, which is silly.
	I mean, to think about, that's like the new COVID vaccine.
	I'm like, what?
	You do realize if you don't get the vaccine, there's a 99% chance that you'll be fine.
	So even if it's, it sounds great.
	You think about it, right?
	What is wrong with you?
	I am not even upset by these people trying to have power over us because people will always do that, right?
	They're going to push, push, push.
	I am so upset by our fellow human beings around us, our brothers and sisters.
	That's been the most disappointing to me.
	I mean, there's always going to be some megalomaniac, some dictator, some Dr. Evil out there always, right?
	What happened to us, though?
	What happened to us that we just have rolled over and taking it?
	What will it take to wake everyone up?
	I'm doing my best.
	I mean, we really need to do something before we start, and it's going to happen if we don't do anything.
	Our children will be taken out of our homes, our spouses will be, to some unknown location.
	And good luck trying to get them back.
	Or worse things, right?
	I mean, they're already, the CDC already, did you see that?
	The CDC in, I think it was late July, put out a plan for your neighborhoods to be, your neighborhood will be your containment camp.
	And they've got like a yellow and a green.
	Oh, it's awful.
	I'll have to send it to you because I kept reading and going, please, this is not true.
	They snuck that one out there.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, because this will take care of those people in more rural locations where they don't have containment camps, they'll make the whole neighborhood a containment camp with armed guards.
	So guess what?
	Maybe there's five houses, let's say.
	You're going to be, your whole household, everybody in there will be like low risk,
	immediate risk, and high risk, okay?
	And they'll have these qualifications.
	It has nothing to do with if you're sick or not, okay?
	So then they will grab individual people from their homes and they will relocate them to like,
	okay, the sick house will be here.
	The immediate will be here.
	You'll be just mixed in together.
	And then the house will be only one entryway, one exitway.
	And then each person will almost have their own jail cell within the house.
	You have to read this.
	This is our own CDC putting this.
	This is insane.
	They called it something like health maintenance, like something similar to a health maintenance plan.
	How dare they try to label this?
	And I'm trying to wake people up because Before I left the United States, I'm mostly in Dominican Republic now, the CDC was given the authority to enact martial law.
	I mean, people don't realize that this is so unconstitutional, I mean, on so many levels.
	They don't understand that they're giving the power away to these entities that don't answer really to anyone.
	The CDC profits off the vaccines.
	They have, what, 40 patents or more?
	They're a money-making industry.
	They're not there for the... I was taught they were there for the health and the goodness of humanity. It's what I
	thought until I realized things later in my career, right? It's unbelievable. Yeah, and the thing
	is, it's only going to keep getting worse. I think now, hopefully, I'm crossing my
	fingers that with the election behind us, people will stop looking at this as a political debate.
	Because during this whole run up to the election, the wearing masks and not wearing masks were really a way of just showing who you represent in this political race.
	It's like, oh, if you're a Trump supporter, you don't wear a mask.
	If you hate Trump, you do wear a mask.
	And so I'm hoping people can see it's not political.
	Because one thing I've been saying a lot is like, We're all on the same team.
	Like, we're all fighting for the same thing.
	I keep telling people, I'm like, I don't care who you hate politically.
	Does anybody like the way things are right now?
	Do you like the fact that you've been telling your kids go play outside and stay off your digital entertainment and now you're like, hey Siri, it's computer screen for hours because this is all you have for school?
	and the fact that we're social creatures and we're at our best when we're socializing
	and we're around each other and we're sharing and challenging ideas
	and now we don't do that.
	I mean, I think it was like Rebecca Costa, who's an author and a kind of a futurist.
	And I remember her telling me this statistic that humans are at their best when they have six hours
	of being social throughout the day.
	And it makes perfect sense because, I mean, even though I write music and I do things that require being alone and I enjoy that, I'm my happiest when I'm around family and friends and my loved ones.
	And really, when you're around each other, you also bounce ideas off each other and you talk about things.
	And you mean together physically, right?
	Yes.
	Not virtually.
	Are now saying virtual is the same and it's not.
	It's not.
	It's not.
	Well, if that was true, then people wouldn't fly to meetings.
	You just do everything virtual.
	There's something that...
	I see it even with podcasts.
	The whole idea of this podcast is I don't like calling them interviews because I try to capture what a casual conversation would be and try to just, you know, when you're with close friends and you get in those deep conversations and we enjoy those and we find meaning and fulfillment and we learn from those conversations.
	So I try to capture that.
	It's much harder on a Skype call than it is in person.
	There's an energy, there's a, you know, sometimes there's a delay on a Skype call that can mess up the rhythm of the call.
	But yeah, there's just that energy and a sense of like some social cues and some things you pick up when you're in person.
	It doesn't make up for it.
	I mean, that's why everybody who's on social media and has a billion friends and followers and whatnot still feel alone and like something's missing.
	Because you need a human interaction.
	That's why the psychological effect of all this is really concerning to me.
	Because kids pick up on social cues.
	You can pretend everything's okay.
	You can pretend that they don't pick up on the fact that you have anxiety and the uncertainty of the future isn't eating at you.
	But they notice and it's gonna have, it could have some trauma.
	It will.
	Because their nervous system is still developing.
	And we know that there's something, you know, where these things can be permanent, how they're learning these things right now, these psychological traumas can become permanent in their brain, especially when they're developing like this.
	I always ask people, I said, how are your kids doing?
	They're like, ah, well, they're so traumatized, the adults, they don't even say anything to the kids.
	I said, you should be talking to them.
	But I guess they're so stunned and shocked.
	They don't even know what to say to their children.
	I'm really concerned, you know?
	In kids, they just don't say anything, right?
	They don't always talk, they don't know how to talk about their emotions all the time.
	But you know, I always tell people that we have amazing science that is being hidden.
	Actually, Russia has a lot of science on this, about the energies of humans, of us, right?
	And then we have powerful frequencies.
	We are energetic beings.
	And you can measure that and you know the HeartMath Institute has great data how our heart is the most powerful organ in our body and it's a hundred thousand times more powerful with its electromagnetic energy than even the brain and then in an average person only it goes out six feet but in a powerful person even many kilometers.
	Think of that's why we are so powerful together like you said physically.
	There's this je ne sais quoi thing about us like when we get together There is so much power.
	If you look throughout history, you see people that they should have lost wars.
	They should have lost a battle.
	And with so many few people, they still overcame.
	Why is that?
	It's the human spirit.
	That is what our power is.
	And that's why people that want to control us, they know that.
	And they know how to break us apart.
	They make us fight with these things on the media that don't make sense.
	Um, they keep us apart, social distance.
	I think the six foot rule has many meanings, but I think they absolutely know that science as well.
	No hugging, no kissing, no touching, you know, babies that aren't touched for, they don't do this, this study anymore.
	Cause it's, it's unethical, but babies that aren't touched will actually start to die only because they're not touched.
	And there's something about the human touch.
	There was a study with a monkey when they first took her away from, or him, away from the mother for the first time.
	Always close to the mother.
	Took the monkey away.
	Starved the monkey.
	It was a baby monkey.
	Whatever you call a baby monkey.
	This baby monkey.
	I know there's some word that I'm like, am I having a brain fire?
	Is there a word I should be using?
	I thought it was baby monkey.
	So this baby monkey, they starve it and then they put it in like this maze where it has like two options.
	It can go to the path of A stuffed animal that looks like its mother, that would give it comfort, or food.
	And it always goes to the comfort because it needs that touch, even if you starve it.
	You know, so even though we think like food is necessary and it's the most necessary thing that we have, it kind of proves it's not.
	It isn't.
	No, absolutely not.
	You know, even in the aboriginal cultures are different.
	They're not just the only ones that do this.
	If someone really messed up in their culture, they were really mad.
	They actually pretend that they're a ghost.
	Like, they're there, but they don't talk or communicate.
	They act like they're invisible.
	And that person usually dies.
	And they don't have any illness.
	They just die because of lack of communication.
	It's very interesting, but sad.
	But also, we need to understand that these virtual things we're doing, it's not the same as being around us, each other, right?
	And we need to know, why is this happening?
	There's a purpose in this.
	This is to weaken us, to divide us, To not let us understand what our true power is.
	I mean, we are spiritual beings, no matter... I mean, we have scientific proof of this, too, but I'm still a scientist, but we know that we're spiritual beings, okay?
	No matter what your background is, we have proof that we are spiritual beings, not just biological entities.
	So if we understand and tap into that and know that, wow, what a better life we can have, what a better future we can have, and we can turn this thing around.
	And I can tell you when my history of looking at the causes, all I did was help remove the causes of what made people ill.
	And I don't even know how the body healed itself.
	It just did.
	I wouldn't, couldn't tell you how many times I saw the heart.
	People in their seventies with really floppy, you know, diseased hearts would remodel to a normal, healthy, strong, younger looking heart.
	I don't know how it did it.
	It would just remove the blockages.
	I've seen livers regenerate.
	Amazing!
	I thought they weren't supposed to regenerate.
	I've seen the pancreas even heal itself.
	Unbelievable!
	The body is miraculous if you give it a chance.
	Absolutely.
	And the power of the mind.
	The power of the mind.
	It cannot be underestimated.
	I mean, the placebo effect does exist.
	We don't understand exactly how it works, but we know if people think they should be feeling better, they feel better.
	And it does have physical effects.
	There's a correlation.
	So without a doubt, I mean, there's a lot of things we don't understand.
	It is funny for you to say that because it's so true that people feel like you can't be scientific and spiritual.
	I'm definitely both.
	I mean, I get excited because science proves it.
	If you look at really well done science, well done, I get so excited because it proves spirituality over and over again.
	And the greatest scientists, I think, you know, there's Tesla and Einstein.
	They'll say the more you know, the more you know science, the more science proves there is God.
	There is a God.
	There is a higher power.
	There is that.
	I mean, it's true.
	It all points to the same thing.
	That's why I get excited about it.
	And nobody has dug more graves to theories than science.
	Like, they're constantly reinventing itself and, you know, finding out what they thought they knew they didn't know.
	And so it's like, really, science is kind of saying, like, we don't know.
	There's a lot of stuff we don't know.
	And this is what we think we know right now.
	People think that when they come up with this You know uh gravity or whatever like that there's oh they proved it well it's really a theory like based on some information there's there's a lot of stuff you can't prove so this idea of like science is without a doubt everything that science believes is provable and it's i mean james corbett who has become a friend of mine throughout the years of doing podcasts he has a great uh short documentary called the crisis of science and he goes through all these examples of how
	They can't recreate the same studies over and over again.
	They're like, oh, we came up with this conclusion, and then they've tried to recreate that study to see if they come up with the same conclusion.
	Because the observer always affects the experiment, right?
	That's true, yeah.
	So it will never be the same, always, because you are observing it, because you, yourself, you're affecting everything around you.
	It shows you right there.
	But on the topic of science, I want to say, these scientific studies that are coming out Are the most embarrassing thing I have ever seen in medicine or science ever.
	And that is not the way we did science or medicine even 10 years ago.
	So why isn't, why aren't more people speaking up in the science and the medical field?
	I don't know.
	My colleagues that still know how to read a good science, uh, scientific research paper need to start speaking up as well, because this is not acceptable.
	These papers should have been thrown out.
	They're that horrible.
	Yeah, well, some of the things that we've been talking about I think are really important is that you look there is a history of eugenics movement in the US.
	There's a history of sterilizing women.
	I mean, they used to do that.
	Margaret Sanger, which was linked to, you know, the eugenics movement, which now they're finally like taking her name down from buildings and whatnot because of her very sketchy past.
	I mean, there was a movement and obviously Bill Gates's family and his his link to it, you know, Deepak.
	I mean, he openly talks about this.
	I mean, that's the thing is like People like to call things like this conspiracy theories.
	I'm like, have you seen what the Economic Forum's talking about, what Bill Gates is talking about, the depopulation?
	I mean, he's trying to say, hey, you know, we need less people in the world.
	But by the way, I want to give a vaccine so people live longer and don't die of disease.
	Like, how does that even make any sense?
	Look at his track record, too, with everything he's done.
	You know, in every country he's gone into, he's caused With his protocols, they've caused a lot of deaths and injuries, illegally actually even, because they didn't even give informed consent to any of these people.
	They just do whatever they want.
	That should show you the character and the morals and the intent of the individual because he does it over and over and over again.
	He consistently does not give informed consent.
	He doesn't care what you think.
	You are just a product to him.
	So you're going to trust that person with that kind of a character and that kind of a family background.
	And he, his foundation, the Gates Foundation, has put a ton of money along with DARPA into gene extinction technology.
	And they claim it's only for the mosquitoes.
	I'm telling you, no.
	If we look at the MMR vaccine, I think they were testing it out on the MMR vaccine already.
	I told you with those African-American boys, a predilection for that.
	We're still giving out the same vaccine.
	No one's doing anything about it.
	They are targeting certain populations.
	Wake up!
	I mean, by science, and you're listening to these people, and who's behind it, I just, I don't know.
	I mean, I'm really wondering what will it take to really wake up the mass of people so that we can finally stop these atrocities and prevent anything else happening to us.
	I'm not sure what that's going to take.
	Yeah, like I said, I hope because the election's behind us, people can look past this because a lot of the things, we're kind of fighting for the same thing.
	I mean, people on the right who are very anti, you know, mandatory vaccines, I mean, that's kind of an issue that's similar to women, you know, women on the left who are saying, my body, my choice.
	Like, I'm like, wait, isn't that kind of the same idea, same philosophy that like, hey, nobody should be telling me what I should do with my body?
	I'm like, then why are we pretending we're on different teams?
	we're actually fighting for the same thing, which shows you how much of this has become politics.
	And I just wish people would see past that because if they don't,
	then they're gonna be tricked into fighting among, you know, the divide and conquer thing.
	We're gonna be fighting among ourselves.
	And then the people pulling the string are gonna keep pushing their agendas.
	And you know, when you see the great reset, I mean, the fact that like they talk about it,
	they, you know, the new normal, I mean, Charlie Baker immediately during this lockdown
	would start talking about the new normal.
	And I'm like, he knows people don't like that term.
	Why does he keep using it?
	And if he keeps, if it's because he's like slowly, like just kind of dripping it slow drips of like... Psychological tactics, right?
	There's psychological warfare that has been launched on in the, in the world on a grand scale right now.
	They're using MKUltra tactics, you know.
	cognitive dissonance and just repeating certain keywords, certain terms desensitizing you,
	that kind of that abusive relationship, beat you up and then give you a little treat,
	beat you up again, all kinds, you're seeing this, but yet people are still going along with it.
	I think it's going to take, at least in the United States, something a little more drastic
	before it wakes up a lot of people to start acting, to protect our human rights,
	not even just our constitutional rights, but our human rights.
	Um...
	Yeah.
	Well, what's crazy is before COVID-19, if we just put out a statement like, hey, can we all agree that government or politicians are corrupt, that they have hidden agendas, and they don't really care about us?
	People would be like, yeah.
	Do you also agree that corporations only care about maximum profit, quarterly gains, and they'll do whatever it takes to get that?
	Yes.
	Then why do you think now that the government is trying to protect us and that corporations care about giving us a drug that is safe and effective?
	It's just silly.
	Their agendas are the same.
	They just have done a really good job of scaring us.
	And that's the thing.
	That's a big thing about People, our whole school system, and that's a whole other conversation about how we just, we reward people who don't ask questions and don't push, you know, against the grain and don't, you know, because those are, it's like, well, if you want to go to college, if you want to have a good job, then don't, don't ask questions.
	You know, just be servient.
	Just follow the herd.
	Do what we are told and stay in line.
	So what ends up happening when you're an adult is that you still do that.
	Like you just don't want to get in trouble.
	You just want to stay in line.
	I mean, my wife's like that, where she's, we'll go to the grocery store, it'll be dead, and she'll get so mad because I'll just, like, disregard arrows, I don't care.
	I'm like, this whole thing's ridiculous.
	And then she'll be like, come on, just, you're going against the arrows.
	I'm like, I don't care.
	And, you know, we have this, this, I'm like, you know, when something is ridiculous, I'm going to say it's ridiculous, and it's my little way of protesting how silly this all is.
	And it's funny, because we have this like discussion with our kids.
	Our kids are not vaccinated, a five-year-old boy, four-year-old girl,
	healthy as all hell and no cognitive issues, never been vaccinated.
	The way they fight disease is exercise, by going outside, fresh air, vitamin D as much as possible,
	eat organically as much as possible.
	And they've been great throughout all of this and through their whole lives.
	But it's a little bit of a dilemma we have at home because my wife's like,
	you know, you're gonna create kids that can be a little bit harder to deal with
	because they're gonna constantly ask questions that go against the grain
	and they're just not gonna listen.
	I'm like, That's fine.
	because I'm like I'm also gonna create interesting adults.
	They might be difficult kids but interesting adults. I'm like or you can
	have them just be you know the kid that just listens to everything you do and
	everything you say never asks any questions never talks back but and then yet
	you know when you're not here they're just gonna listen to authority and
	they're never gonna think for themselves and they can
	And somebody could take advantage of them because of that.
	You know, so to me, I think we're going to make better adults who are better prepared to deal with the propaganda you're getting from TV, marketing, government trying to scare you into listening to us because we're your big brother.
	We're here to protect you.
	You know, that type of thing.
	It's like, yeah, maybe it's a little harder now.
	But, and of course it's easier saying this now, uh, when my kids aren't here driving me crazy.
	But, but, but, you know, it is one of those things where like, I'm glad I, I am planting that seed of like, ask questions.
	And I always say, I'm like, if they ask questions and I can't answer it and I don't have a good way
	of answering it or a good answer for them, then maybe I should reanalyze what I'm asking them
	to do in the first place.
	And I want them to live that way.
	You know, I want them to ask questions and don't just say, okay, dad told me to do something
	so I should just listen.
	It's like, no, if dad can't explain himself, then maybe, you know, maybe we should discuss
	if I should even be doing this, you know?
	So I think that's really important because we are living in a world
	where they are brainwashing our children.
	They are, you know, giving kids with no nutritional value in their food.
	So they, you know, cognitively, they're not there.
	Like you said, that correlation between vaccines and cognitive issues, I mean, it's drastic.
	I mean, you see kids more- You can't deny it.
	You can't deny it.
	Yeah, so for people who are listening who obviously the hot topic of late
	has been the new COVID-19 vaccine, could you explain to people what an RNA vaccine is
	and what it does and why you think there should be some concerns?
	Bye.
	Well, the main vaccines are using modified messenger RNA or modified DNA.
	And when they're doing that, it's a brand new experimental technology on the entire human race.
	We've never done anything like this large scale ever before.
	And so a brand new technology minimum should be 10 to 15 years of scientific studies, not less than one year.
	This is very scary.
	They have tried to do these kinds of technologies on animal studies in the last 20 years, and they failed miserably.
	So this is our, my colleagues and I, our hypothesis of why they're not doing proper animal studies now.
	They're skipping them, or they produced a couple really weak ones just recently, but again, these aren't proper animal scientific studies.
	When they did the animal studies, they found out the animals, when they had this kind of vaccine, at first in the vials, the lab work, they look great.
	It was a success.
	They formed the antibodies.
	Wonderful.
	But antibody production does not mean you're immune.
	It doesn't.
	You have to see how the animal or the human acts and the nature.
	So when the animals were introduced to the same virus, they actually did much worse.
	They became sicker.
	They had lung inflammation, liver failure, and a lot more of them died.
	Like, oops.
	And then they never went on to the human trials.
	So what changed from then to now?
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	It's the same technology.
	Also, in those trials, they found out that the antibody production was only hours to days.
	Hours to days!
	That's it.
	So why would they think the antibody production would be longer here?
	They're guesstimating, guesstimating, that they're using nanolipids or nanotechnology with this, so that could extend out the duration of the antibody production.
	But they don't know how long.
	And the studies aren't even looking at it.
	So the studies right now are looking at only, does it prevent you from having a positive PCR test and one symptom?
	One symptom.
	You could have a cough or sneeze.
	So there's no important endpoints.
	They're not looking at, does it prevent hospitalization?
	Does it prevent death?
	Does it prevent transmission?
	Does it prevent ICU admissions?
	Nothing important.
	This scene right now has been proven only to prevent a teeny amount of people A positive PCR test with like a cough or a sniffle.
	Are you kidding me?
	This is the worst study I've ever heard of.
	And we are betting on our lives because once they manipulate the genome and they say that modified messenger RNA is not permanent, they are not telling the truth.
	Because yes, it can be.
	Usually it's not permanent.
	However, it can be permanent if they use a small enough A bit called a hairpin RNA.
	It can be inserted into the DNA.
	Number two, if there's any kind of a virus that's being coded for, that's called a reverse transcriptase virus, which is similar to, let's say HIV-1, which this virus happens to have four subunits of HIV-1 in the spike protein.
	So already, yes, it does have that.
	So that means it can be taken up from the DNA and it can become permanent.
	They're not telling us the truth.
	Also, these messenger RNAs can actually shut off and disable a gene permanently.
	So it still codes for the gene, like let's say it still codes for fertility, but it can disable it so you're no longer fertile or whatever other gene it is.
	They don't consider that gene editing because the code stays the same, but they disabled it.
	You see how they're very Manipulative with their wording and what they're saying.
	So if you're just looking at modified messenger RNA, in general, yeah, it doesn't go into the DNA, the nucleus of the DNA, but there's many ways it can.
	And we've already looked at this virus and we saw that it should be able to go into the nucleus and then it can become permanent.
	That we are even believing these companies are outright lying.
	Is disgusting to me and unconscionable.
	So right then and there, they can alter your DNA, your genome.
	When they're doing that, you're using something synthetic, something not from nature.
	And by law, if this does become permanent, and we won't know for years, but if it becomes permanent, then by law, whoever patented that gene, that genome, now owns part of what's inside of you.
	That's crazy.
	By law, they can do that to a human.
	People need to wake up.
	So, A, you could have part of you owned, or perhaps all of you owned, and they're manipulating your genome.
	That precious thing that we get is, to me, the likeness of God.
	That only one insertion, one deletion, one translocation can be disastrous effects.
	We know, we already know, and Bill Gates knows this, he's said it, there'll be a lot more cancers that comes from this.
	We know.
	There'll be a lot more autoimmune disorders.
	There'll be a lot more something called antibody dependent enhancement or events, meaning that, yeah,
	you're gonna get sicker when you see the virus.
	You're gonna be really sick.
	You're not gonna be better.
	We're gonna make you a lot sicker.
	We know that, but oh well, it's for the good of the whole.
	And long-term autoimmune disorders like lupus, rheumatoid, blah, blah, blah, and mutant genes.
	Oh yeah, we don't even know what that's, but we know that, they admit that.
	And Bill Gates has said, I think at least 700,000 people will be dead
	or seriously injured from this vaccine, but that's for the good of the whole.
	that's okay.
	I mean, I'm sure he's underestimating it too.
	So we're already manipulating that.
	So then they decide, well, we want to make sure this antibody production lasts longer.
	So we're going to put some nanotechnology in there.
	We're just going to put that in there.
	That's a whole other issue.
	Are you kidding me?
	Nanotechnology.
	These are in essence, microscopic little robots.
	That's layman's terms.
	It's a very simplified way of putting it, but these are little particles that if there's enough in you, I mean, you can really become more computerized.
	It's called transhumanism.
	It's called melding with artificial intelligence.
	And do they want to do it?
	Yes!
	Because they're outright saying it.
	If you listen to Boris Johnson, he says that's our future for sure.
	He says we will have this artificial intelligence inside of us and pretty soon there's nowhere we can hide.
	Everything will be known.
	Our thoughts, our actions, our movements.
	And also there's a Microsoft patent for this as well.
	With the nanotechnology they are proposing to use, whether or not it's this first vaccine or the second or the third is yet to be seen, but they do plan to use it in these vaccines, that we will actually have a hookup.
	In essence, it's almost like having part of your cell phone inside your body.
	So it's gathering information all about your physical information, but also your emotions, your menstrual cycle.
	If you're having sex, if you're falling down, All the medicines in your body, if you're drinking alcohol, everything's known all the time.
	You can't hide from anything.
	And all this data is gathered.
	It goes to a smartphone, then the cloud, and then a supercomputer.
	And why do they want to do this?
	They say, oh, we can use this for cryptocurrency, money.
	Also for surveillance, you know, control of people.
	So it sounds really sci-fi fantastical, but if you do your research, you'll find this to be true.
	And you'll find that this is the intent of these series of vaccines they want to give.
	Now, none of us know what is exactly in the first vaccine or the second or the third, but the series of them could accomplish that task.
	So before we launch on this endeavor for Human 2.0, which I can only see disaster happening, we need to stop everything and really Question it and make sure that we are on the right side of humanity, not the wrong side.
	Um, and it's not going to be the, you see, you're not going to be the Captain America.
	You're not going to be like the guy in Matrix.
	Uh, I'd say very few people would have that experience.
	I think we would have some disastrous results.
	So why do we, why do we want to be experimented on for what end?
	We already know the vaccine is not very useful.
	It's not looking at anything useful.
	Yeah, that's pretty much what I have to say about that.
	Yeah, well the transhumanism agenda has been, I mean, that's been something that's been
	around forever and a lot of these agendas have been around forever.
	They have either purposely created something to fast track these agendas or they're taking
	advantage of a situation to fast track these agendas.
	But either way, these agendas are being fast tracked.
	Like you said, the tracking of us, the controlling of us, just combining us with robots and machines
	and being less human.
	There are a lot of people out there in the you know the futurism realm where those futurists really believe that humans are like this dumb invention that can be improved and and need improvement and robots and technology can improve on us and it's like you said it's dangerous and I think some people are just Working on advancing technology and not seeing the big picture on what that technology could end up doing and creating for civilization.
	But yeah, it's definitely something you see with the smart cities.
	This idea of smart cities having sensors everywhere.
	They can send you a fine if you litter.
	You know, they're constantly watching you.
	They know how many steps you take, where you are.
	I mean, they just can't.
	I mean, literally privacy will be a thing of the past, which it already kind of is, but It's, you know, to another extent.
	So, I mean, even with, something that people discuss a lot is like, okay, even if they came out with a vaccine, couldn't the virus mutate, change, just like the flu virus anyway?
	So, like, by the time it comes out, would it not be relevant?
	Is that a possibility too?
	And also, if you do get vaccinated, would you, I mean, you wouldn't have, would you have, I guess, a lifelong immunity to it?
	Or because of that mutation, It's also not going to save you forever either.
	Well, like I told you, all the research shows us that this is very short-lived.
	It's hours to days.
	And only if they add technology that helps it not degrade in your body, your body has protective mechanisms that knows something for it will get rid of it.
	They're looking at one to three months with toxic doses.
	So no, it's not long-term immunity.
	It's very, very, very short-lived.
	We don't even know.
	They won't measure that in the studies.
	They don't want us to know.
	That's not an endpoint.
	They're not looking at the length and the duration of antibody production.
	Yes, you're right.
	These things mutate.
	Now, what the idea is, if you're listening to these companies like Moderna and Dr. Craig Venter, who's behind a lot of these things, they say, well, the future of medicine is only vaccines because Once they have enough of this nanotechnology inside of us, these microscopic little robots, they'll do everything for us.
	We'll just be programmed.
	They'll actually start to be almost sentient on their own, and they'll actually see something in your body and know how to correct it.
	They'll code for it themselves.
	How frightening of a thought is that?
	If you haven't heard of Boris Johnson's clip, it's only two minutes.
	You should listen to it.
	He describes all of this and how it would work in your body, our bodies, right?
	And that everyone should get it.
	But the whole idea is once we have enough of this nanotechnology, everything will be coded.
	It's just a code.
	You don't take a tablet anymore.
	You don't really see the doctor anymore.
	You're going to be ultimately just coding for things in your body.
	Well, that sounds like a computer to me.
	How much human is left then?
	That's unbelievable.
	And you need to know all these people behind these movements are atheists.
	They don't have any respect for a higher power, for God.
	And I always tell people the opening remark of one of the head genomists was, who is God?
	What is God?
	God creates, now we can create, so now we're gods.
	And that should tell you everything.
	And they do believe that most of us are useless eaters, and only some of us are worthwhile.
	I mean, you have to see the motivations behind these people.
	I don't agree with any of that.
	I believe in God.
	I believe in our spirituality.
	I believe in the beauty of us, the shining, amazing spiritual beauty in all of us that we forgot.
	We need to remember that.
	And everything they're telling us to do, to separate us and break us up and all that, that's what they're afraid of.
	So we need to remember that and come together.
	This is a pivotal point in our history, and I hope people wake up to it.
	Yeah, I was raised a Catholic being Portuguese, and yeah, I was born in Portugal.
	I came here and I went to like Sunday school and whatnot, and I was always the one getting in trouble, asking too many questions and rebelling and going against the grain.
	So then I was really intrigued when I was young to the atheist movement.
	I'm like, oh, this is so interesting.
	I'm like, these guys, yeah, they think logically.
	They're not against questions.
	They're not extremists.
	And then you join that group and you realize, oh, I just left a group to join another group.
	These guys are more extreme than the group I left.
	These guys are selling you the idea, but they're not at all like they think they have it all figured out.
	It's like that's the least open-minded thing you can do.
	Tell me that you know, that you have truth, capital T, that you know for sure that this person's beliefs are wrong.
	It's like, wait, wait, you can't.
	There's no way of knowing.
	So you see more, I think you're seeing more and more people become spiritual and become, even if they don't want to use the term religious, they're using spiritual because basically it's all the same things.
	I mean, it's a belief that There could be something more than the material world, you know, that which we can only see based on our five senses, which are limited and whatnot.
	So, you know, I tell people all the time, like, if you didn't have a nose, how would I describe scent to you?
	You know, it's like there's so there's a lot of stuff that we like you said, energy and all these other things that we can't see and and could be maybe one day discovered.
	But at the moment we can, you know, it's only on our limited five senses.
	Yeah, I mean the atheist movement is really interesting because I think it does cause a huge issue.
	And I do see a lot of people who are religious, they're the ones who are on the front lines fighting for these type of things.
	And I think it's important because Even though I'm not religious, my kids have religious exemptions, so they're not vaccinated.
	So if it wasn't for that freedom of religion, if it wasn't for that right, and having the right to decide what to do with your body, and being the parents who decide for the children what's best for them, and it's not the government, then I'd be screwed right now.
	So thank God that there are religious people out there fighting for these things, and there are
	religious exemptions, and we are, or at least were, in a country where we had those freedoms
	because of those religious freedoms that we have. But I get more and more worried. I've had Brian Festa
	on. He created the CT Freedom Alliance with his co-founder Don Jolly, and they are in
	Connecticut. They They're fighting back against, you know, because they're trying to get rid of the religious exemptions in Connecticut.
	They're trying to get rid of, or they're also fighting back in regards to mandatory masks in school.
	And a lot of these people that I, like I said, growing up kind of being an atheist, much of my teenager lives and in my 20s, I'm like, oh my god, we're fighting for all the same things.
	And it's not the atheists who are by my side fighting with me.
	It's the religious people.
	And I'm like, and I thought they were the enemy.
	And now I'm like, no, no, no.
	They're the ones who are doing the things that I find important.
	And I think that's really important, too, for people to see that, like, we're all fighting for the same things.
	We might disagree on one thing or another, but humanity should be the thing we're fighting for.
	And as long as we can all agree on that, then that's a step in the right direction.
	And people need to realize they don't see it on the major media, but all around the entire world, every country, these protocols, these mandates are being mirrored.
	It's happening around the world.
	So how in the world do you think this one election is going to make or break us?
	It won't.
	These things are going to go forward until we speak up and we come together because everyone's waiting, waiting for the final election vote.
	Honestly, either way, we're still in trouble if we don't come together and speak up because look around the world.
	We can't just be so isolationist and we can't just be so self-absorbed anymore.
	I mean, we don't have that luxury because the time is now that we have to come together and for humanity, yeah.
	Yeah, without a doubt.
	You know, I hope that people, it does seem like there are some some positive things.
	You know, Ben Swan said when he was on my show that he thinks they overplayed their hand.
	And I think in some aspects they have because even the vaccine debate, which was something that I mean, just a year ago or nine months ago, was something that you bring it up.
	People were very passionate in either direction.
	They're either, which is hilarious because I'm like, I don't know how you can be so passionate about being pro vaccine.
	You want to like, You don't think that it could do any harm?
	Like, it doesn't make any sense to me.
	I use this example often.
	I'm like, you do realize, like, if I made peanut butter and jelly mandated to every child in the world, there's going to be some deaths.
	Some kids are going to die.
	Like, it doesn't mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean peanut butter is the most dangerous thing on earth, but it means that we understand if you give the same cocktail, if you give the same I agree.
	Look, I'm still speaking.
	every person in the world, some people are gonna die.
	So if we just understand that basic concept, how can you be so sure that all these parents
	who are saying that they had some negative effects based on a vaccine, how can you say they're all crazy?
	It's so unscientific, it's ridiculous.
	Yeah, I agree, I agree, yeah.
	Look, I'm still speaking, why I'm speaking up is because I still have this amazing love
	and hope and faith that emanates from my heart and I don't even know why,
	but I know it must come from a higher power.
	And I know that there's hope, and it's just the great awakening, really.
	You know, you're shaking the world, and there's gonna be more things that happen, for sure, to shake more up.
	But we're coming from this big slumber because a lot of ugliness is being unveiled right now.
	We're beginning to see a lot of things that have always been happening for a long, long time.
	And I think that has to happen so that we can finally make our world Better and and a better place a paradise.
	It was always supposed to be.
	That's how I see it.
	We've got to see the ugly truths first, which it's not easy to do that, obviously.
	Yeah, I mean, it is hard to, it's like one of my favorite quotes, it's easier to trick
	somebody than convince them they've been tricked.
	And it is one of those things, once you're tricked, and you're trying to like completely
	remold the way somebody looks at the world, their first reaction is to get defensive.
	It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I fell for it?
	Like I've been lied to?
	Like the way I perceive the world could be incorrect.
	I think it's hard, like people have to take baby steps.
	And I think we've gotten a little closer to that because now more than ever, people will
	entertain the idea that maybe there is a vaccine agenda.
	Maybe we should be questioning the idea if they're healthy or not.
	It's a conversation that I find I can have with people now without people immediately disregarding what I'm saying or getting defensive or discrediting, you know, anybody who has that view.
	Which, you know, is a huge issue.
	Even with yourself, have you found that, because you're so willing to be outspoken about these things, have you had any backlash?
	Have you seen any negative effects based on, you know, your ability to... Yeah, I mean, I think there's a whole YouTube channel just dedicated to me.
	Really?
	Yeah, I guess I'm flattered.
	The BBC wrote an article about me.
	No one interviewed me, but you'd read this article like they had interviewed me.
	They never did.
	You know, saying I wasn't a doctor, of course I'm a doctor.
	I mean, it's just, it's just out there propaganda to get paid to do that, right?
	Some trolling, but I mean, for the most part, I've been pleasantly surprised to see people that were totally against questioning a vaccine or pro-vaccine all of a sudden saying, oh my gosh, waking, waking up to what's been going on a lot more than a year ago, a lot more.
	So there is, there is a positive movement.
	I think people are just so shocked because now, They're questioning the whole foundation of what life is, what they thought life was, or how life worked, how the world worked.
	And that's not easy.
	That takes some time to process.
	So I think we need time to process that.
	And you're right about baby steps.
	That's what I tell people.
	Don't get so overwhelmed about, yeah, we can't, one person can't change the world, but remember the power that we have coming together.
	So I think once a week, if everyone got together in each other's homes, your neighbors, your friends, family, you know, some comrades, And you get together and you just either you're praying together or you're just eating together, cooking together, you're talking about things in person.
	Just doing that is powerful.
	Just start doing that.
	If you start doing that, I promise that you will see change already.
	If everyone just did that once a week.
	So take baby steps, yeah, and be a critical thinker and we're all going to have to do our own research, right?
	So start doing that.
	And then start to care about each other.
	That's the best way we can start to get out of here.
	Get out of the situation.
	Well, the problem is big tech makes it harder to do your own research.
	You can't find anything that goes against the mainstream narrative.
	I've seen that some of your videos are now on, I don't know if it was BitChute or Library, but it's on one of the alternative YouTube platforms.
	Yeah, I've got to go to all the alternative platforms.
	They erased almost all of them now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
	And same thing with me.
	I've been shadowbanned on YouTube.
	I have to age restrict all my stuff and just not tag things because I'm worried about getting another, you know, video flagged or whatnot.
	But it is, when one door closes, another one opens, I think it's forced people to now really examine,
	like, hey, do I wanna use YouTube as my primary video platform?
	Like, maybe I should go to Bitchu, maybe I should go to Library.
	I'm actually, I do these shows called The Union of the Unwanted,
	and I do them with a couple co-hosts, one being Sam Tripoli and Charlie Robinson,
	and then Mike, Midnight Mike from the OBDM Show.
	And it's just a big, like, roundtable, Zoom conference call with the alternative media world.
	And it was actually sparked by the idea of, like, hey, we gotta get,
	there's all these people being banned, and shadow banned, and censored,
	and kicked off Twitter, whatever.
	Let's get them together and figure out some solutions.
	And then they just kind of picked up, and I kept doing these roundtable discussions.
	We actually have another one coming up Monday, and we're gonna have people from Library on.
	Uh, from Float, the new, uh, Float, uh, social media platform, which is like a Facebook competitor, um, BitChute, and then also ContentSafe, which is, uh, something that might be, uh, intriguing to you because what they do is, uh, it's a great idea.
	I'm glad that somebody finally came up with this.
	ContentSafe, well, because I haven't, I'm not on any of those platforms yet.
	I mean, people have uploaded my stuff on there, but I haven't personally done it because I'm like, which one's going to end up being the next big thing?
	I'm like, let me just wait.
	I have like 280 shows.
	I don't want to have to upload all of them and then find out like this platform fails and then you have to be like, oh, I got to do the same thing to this other plat, you know, go on this platform now.
	So what ContentSafe does, they actually will do all that work for you.
	You upload it to one platform and they will send it to library, float, all of them for you.
	Oh, wow.
	I need to look at that.
	Yeah, I'll send you their contact information.
	Matthew, the guy who runs it, we have a mutual friend, Richard Grove.
	Are you familiar with Richard Grove from Tragedy and Hope and Dotcom?
	He's a really awesome guy.
	I've gotten to know him throughout the years a lot.
	But Matthew's like, he's actually passionate because he loves alternative media.
	So he's trying to find solutions so he can continue to consume the alternative media he
	loves.
	So he's actually a passionate consumer of it.
	So that's why he wants to protect it.
	And, but yeah, I mean, so you're starting to see more and more of these solutions pop up
	because if YouTube and Twitter and all these platforms were like censoring us a little bit,
	people would be like, okay, it's convenient enough where I'm gonna continue doing it.
	But now it's gone so over the top where you can't go down any rabbit holes.
	If people want to research the things we're talking about, I mean, it's almost impossible.
	You can't use Google.
	And unfortunately, YouTube is the second most used search engine.
	So, you know, people go on YouTube to search stuff, so you can't go down those rabbit holes.
	It makes it harder and harder.
	When Pandemic came out, I mean, you could watch the movie as long as somebody was debunking it.
	It's not so unsafe to watch and dangerous to watch if somebody was debunking it and narrating with it
	and planting the seed of doubt while watching it.
	But God forbid you use your own critical thinking skills to watch the film yourself
	and come up with your own conclusions.
	Like you can't do that, that's too dangerous.
	And so this censorship issue, and this is the power of big pharma.
	Like, growing up, I thought the biggest threat to humanity was the military-industrial complex, and now it's not.
	It's Big Pharma.
	Like, they have much more power, much more influence.
	You know, when you watch TV, every other commercial, you know, is a Big Pharma commercial.
	You know, it's us and New Zealand are the only countries that even let them do that anyways.
	But it's just like, you have to think, if they're putting those commercials on TV, They're also paying the salaries of the people you see on TV.
	So that means they have influence.
	They have say in what's going on.
	That's why during the height of the pill epidemic, no politician would even touch the topic, even though that was a real epidemic.
	That was people, young people were dying.
	It wasn't old people, which now, you know, a lot of researchers are saying that like some ridiculous, at least in Italy, I think I saw some paper about how like 90% of people who died of COVID or allegedly died of COVID.
	We're going to die this year anyways.
	They're in such bad health, they're going to die.
	And in Portugal, they actually, and that's my country so I'm proud of them, Cristiano Ronaldo, he tested for COVID-19 and he publicly said, he's like, I think the PCR test is bullshit.
	And then recently, Portugal just announced that, and it happened in court because I think somebody sued or had a lawsuit, that you cannot quarantine somebody based on the PCR test.
	They've come to the conclusion that it's not a test, it's a method, and it's not an accurate way of doing it.
	And the guy who created the test or the method He said it himself.
	It's not designed for those purposes.
	I mean, he had a coincidental death late last year.
	With all these homeopathic and functional medicine people passing away throughout the years, I'm a little nervous about anytime I hear about somebody who seems like their information is important, all of a sudden has a mysterious death.
	That's why I left the U.S.
	because the week I left was when a lot of the deaths started happening in Georgia.
	So, I know that very well.
	Do you think you'll be coming back to the U.S.?
	I mean, right now I primarily stay here and when I go back to the U.S.
	it's for very short stints.
	It gives me more freedom to speak up here.
	I was given an ultimatum more than once and I could never, for money, ever do something against my ethics and morals.
	Never.
	And I don't have any children, so it gave me more freedom where I'm like, fine, I'll move out of the country because I'm not going to do that.
	Never.
	And it gave me the freedom to speak up more.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	And the thing is, that's a real thing.
	I had a doctor, I can't remember his name now, he's a functional medicine doctor.
	I remember he used to be on the Tom Hartman Show, and he was all over the place, really smart guy from New York.
	And I had him booked, and then this is when all these homeopathic functional medicine doctors were passing away.
	I remember how creepy it was, because I had him booked, and then I confirmed with him, like, hey, you're still going to be on?
	I get an email the next day from somebody saying, uh, something happened and, uh, he passed away.
	And I'm like, what?
	And then it was just like, so this stuff really does happen.
	If you look at the, when you look at the list and the thing is people are like, Oh, it sounds too hard to believe.
	I'm like, you do realize mobsters and gangsters have killed each other for much less.
	Like they've taken people out.
	It's all about money.
	It's not personal when you start interfering.
	And I had threats on me and then I had warnings from two high up people and I took the warning seriously.
	Well, the amount of money involved.
	I mean, I remember when I had Dr. Brzezinski, I had Dr. Brzezinski on when I think like the first couple years I started doing a podcast and I barely had a platform, was kind of just establishing my foot in the whole alternative media community.
	And I didn't barely had anybody connect with me based on my podcast at the time.
	I mean, this was like 2013, 2014.
	And all of a sudden I'm getting, I announced that he was going to be on because I was a big fan and I was so excited about him being on.
	And all of a sudden I have People like just sending me articles.
	He's pseudoscience.
	He's this.
	He's that.
	You know, he kills people.
	He's dangerous.
	It's this.
	And I'm like, this can't be real because I've never had this much interaction.
	And I'm like, oh, this is this is real.
	have trolls who are paid to just go out and cause, because the thing is people,
	if you give them enough confusing information, people will throw their hands up and they're
	like, you know what, I'm just going to wear the mask anyways because I'm not sure, you know.
	So it's like, it's hard to fight against that because even if you're giving good information,
	if they just throw out some conflicting information, people will just eventually be
	like, okay, I don't know what to believe.
	So I'm just going to, I'm going to do what the government told me to do.
	You know, I'm just going to wear a mask.
	I'm just going to stay away from people.
	I'm not going to get together with my family on Thanksgiving.
	I'm like, you're crazy.
	It's a slippery slope we're going down right now.
	Yeah.
	People need to start looking at their history.
	It wasn't that long ago of how all these things were started just like we are now.
	And look at the tragedies that happened in World War II.
	We're headed for that kind of thing again, if we don't wake up right now.
	It's my warning.
	Well, yeah, if you don't learn history, it's bound to repeat.
	We are doing that.
	They're using the same one-liners.
	It's for your safety.
	It was the same thing the Nazis used.
	It's for your safety.
	We're using the same line, and it's working.
	It's for your safety.
	Well, it's funny.
	I saw this meme.
	They're like, if you ever pondered on the idea, if you would If you lived in Nazi Germany, if you would go with the herd and, uh, well, I think a lot of people have got that answer now that a lot of people, that many people who think that they wouldn't go with the herd, that they wouldn't just fall direction, even if it doesn't make sense.
	A lot of those people actually would.
	You know, I have a, it's an uplifting story.
	I had a patient, um, this is Moffat.
	She was born, um, in France and she was 12 years old at the time of World War II.
	And she had saw all these people taking out of their homes.
	She knew they were being killed in front of her.
	All these people being ripped away from their children.
	She knew what was happening to them.
	So she was 12 years old and she came up with a plan all by herself.
	She decided to save these babies, the adults, you know, whatever.
	She saved 102 babies, a 12-year-old.
	You know how she did it?
	She would smuggle them, work with the postman.
	They would put them inside the burlap bags.
	She put pepper all over them.
	There's a German shepherd inside there that was trained.
	And then she trained the German shepherd in there to bark crazy
	when they saw anyone in a uniform.
	And then the other German shepherds that came in, they couldn't smell the baby because of all the pepper.
	And she got a, she knew that she could die.
	Look at this 12 year old, look at the, the bravery she had and she knew.
	And I hear, I had more than one story like that with the patients I had.
	Look at, I mean, that's just unbelievable.
	That's amazing.
	I'm hoping that some of that.
	The passion comes back for humanity, and I hope it doesn't get to that point, right?
	But that wasn't that long ago.
	I learned and I listened to all my patients.
	They have amazing stories, and I hope we don't repeat that again, and I hope we get some passion back, right?
	Let's use our heart chakras.
	Let's use our heart energy that we know we have and make this turnaround.
	Yeah, I mean, without a doubt, because the thing is about the elite.
	They, without a doubt, believe that they are smarter than us, they're more deserving than us, that the rest of us are, you know, not capable of making decisions.
	They really think, like you said, it's like this God syndrome where you think that you're the ones who could take life, make life, mold life, manipulate life, like, and it's just like you're greater than everybody else, and it's It's a real issue.
	And the thing about being spiritual or being religious, I think where those type of people have easier, I guess, easier, it seems to get, it's easier to get through to them
	and really convince them that there's evil out there because I think to believe there's
	really good out there, you have to also believe that there's evil out there.
	You can't believe in something pure and good if you don't also believe in the opposite.
	So atheists, a lot of atheists don't believe in either or and sometimes, you know, they're
	to the fact that if there's good, there has to be evil.
	You have to have, so if there are people like that, you know, a 12 year old who's doing something
	very dangerous just because she knows it's right, then there has to be the complete opposite too,
	where there's people who are evil and will do the worst of things.
	Exactly, yeah.
	I believe in us.
	I do believe in the power of spirit and love, faith, hope.
	And it's just about right now educating and people that were shaking the core of so many people,
	they had no idea what the world was really like, or really is.
	So I know we have to be a little patient as they're waking up.
	But I still have faith and hope in everyone.
	It's a really hard time, right?
	But we have to be there for each other.
	And if people just start physically being with each other at least once a week, I think that one baby step can lead to much greater things for all of us.
	Turn your television off.
	Turn your television off.
	That's the biggest brainwashing device ever.
	Yeah, remember that movie Network from, what was it, like the 70s?
	You know, like a mad as hell.
	It's like, the tube tells you how to dress, what to eat.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's a great, great speech.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it almost makes as much sense now as it did then.
	And that's the thing about a lot of these quotes.
	You know, I say this often on the show, like, that tells you something about humans, is that when you see these old quotes, regardless what year they're from, they almost make as much sense now as they did when they were written, and that tells you something.
	That technology might change, you know, we might have TVs, we might have faster cars, we might have faster whatever, but at the end of the day, humans still have the same desires, wants, needs, and so When we're going closer to becoming machines, then that's when humans do change, and we need to preserve what humans are.
	Because there's beautiful things about us, and I think for the most part, if you can get past all the things that separate us, then the majority of us will realize that we want kind of all the same things.
	some safety, we want a fulfilling job, a fulfilling life, we wanna be around loved ones,
	and that's when we're at our happiest.
	I mean, I started this podcast, it's called The Ripple Effect
	because I truly believe in the ripple effect, the idea that we can all make a difference,
	we can all change something.
	I mean, I started it with no platform and little by little it built into something
	and it's become an example of it.
	And like you said, we can all, we don't never know what type of effect we have on people.
	The most influential people in the world, somebody like Nikolai Tesla, which I'm a big fan of too.
	You mentioned him.
	He really was motivated by his work and his passion.
	He wasn't motivated by money.
	Passion for humanity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He wanted to make the world a better place.
	And where Edison was the complete opposite and that's why they bought heads.
	But somebody like Nikolai Tesla, who I think is one of the most influential people, or
	even Martin Luther King or whoever, you look at these people, they were influenced by lesser
	known men.
	They were influenced by maybe a book that maybe they read, a conversation they had with
	an uncle or a friend or another inventor or thinker.
	And it connected with them.
	It influenced the way they look at the world and later what they end up becoming.
	And I think we can all do that.
	You might indirectly change the world.
	We might not change the world, but somebody listening who hears this conversation, we
	inspire them and they can do something.
	So it's like, you can never just underestimate the power of the ripple effect and really, you know, the effect we have on people.
	And the truth is, the second you believe you can't do anything, we've lost, you know.
	And I think that's important too, you know, to understand that the opposite is much worse, you know, the idea that we can't do anything, you know.
	So, you know, I know I'm taking up a lot of your time, but... Yeah, it's okay.
	I can't thank you enough for being outspoken and doing what you're doing, and I'll definitely get you that information for Content Safe, and maybe we'll have you on one of the Union of Dunwanted shows in the future with the whole roundtable discussion.
	It's an awesome platform to cross-pollinate and people to meet each other and help each other out.
	It's a great community and that's kind of what we're trying to do is create a community
	where we all help each other and we fight together.
	And you know, even if we have little differences, I've had Greg Pallas on one of these shows
	and then I had Roger Stone on the last one.
	So complete opposites, you know.
	So just a bunch of different people just kind of sharing ideas and whatnot.
	And people have really enjoyed them.
	I think for the purpose, like you said, to see people come together and see that like,
	oh, okay, even if they disagree on this little detail or that little detail, we're all looking
	for the same things and we can all fight together.
	And then, like I said, let's fight these bigger picture issues.
	Issues and then we can disagree about all the other isms and all the other things but like let's fight for humanity first like we can't argue about Capitalism or socialism or or taxes or whatever if there's no humanity So let's let's save humanity first, then we can argue about all the other things that are a little less important.
	So But it's very powerful.
	I agree with you.
	Absolutely.
	I Yeah, those small things like that make such an impact.
	I mean, I remember just one sentence someone has told me in my past more than once.
	I remember the day it happened and it changed me, right?
	Just a sentence someone says to you.
	So, you know, just a thought can change a lot.
	When we're kids, I mean, you never know.
	In the moment, which conversation or which life event or which situation or which book or song or album or whatever it may be that inspires you and sticks with you forever.
	I mean, we all have those moments where we look back and we're like, I don't know why, but that conversation or that quote or that thing just stuck with me forever.
	And kids, they're sponges, you know, and when we're kids, we're sponges.
	And so we never know how we're inspiring somebody and which aspect of this conversation
	ends up inspiring somebody or staying with them forever.
	And so, yeah, I think that's super important.
	Like inspire each other, have conversations.
	I think, I've said this on the show a bunch.
	I think it's a, even if it wasn't on purpose, this idea of saying, hey, don't ever talk about religion
	or politics at the dinner table has become a great trick to get people to not talk about important things.
	It's like, we can argue, I'm surrounded by sports fans.
	I mean, I'm Portuguese, so I'm surrounded by people who are big soccer fans.
	I've seen heated arguments over soccer, okay?
	And it's like, if nobody ever says, oh, I told you not to bring up soccer,
	but it's like, if we talk about, if we actually talk about important issues,
	issues that change the way we look at the world, that change, that help us better understand ourselves
	and the world around us, Then if that turns into a little bit of a debate, it's like, Oh, see, I told you so you shouldn't have brought that these things up.
	It's like, no, I think if we're going to risk getting in a fight.
	For me, I'd rather it be over something that's important.
	And there's a lot of times where you think you didn't get through to somebody.
	And then you did plant that seed of doubt and maybe I didn't get, maybe I didn't, I didn't fully chip away at their, you know, their, the way that they look at the world, but and then they run into your work and then they run into somebody else's work and they were like, okay, maybe there's, there's something to what he said and, and we're all doing our part in, in kind of chipping away at, you know, that, you know, whatever brainwashing they, they had to deal with.
	So, um, I think people have to look at that, that people, I know it's discouraging.
	It's, it's when you get in an argument with somebody, And then you're just like, oh, I didn't get through to them.
	You know, why, why do I bother?
	You do plant seeds.
	It does work.
	I can tell you that for a fact.
	Absolutely.
	A hundred percent.
	Yeah.
	So don't ever think that you don't make an impact on people.
	People really do.
	Just, it takes time.
	Yeah, yeah, it does.
	You know, baby steps, like we said.
	But for people listening who want to maybe see your work, connect with you, where they can get some of your projects and your videos.
	And I know you're constantly doing interviews also.
	Yeah.
	If you go to Twitter at Dr. Made, because now the YouTube's almost going to be deleted, so it's not worth going there.
	I have there, you can look at, there's Library and BitChute.
	I put links on there where all my other videos are on there, some of the other interviews.
	Also, Facebook, I still have a page, I have a private group called Serendipity's Group on there, where a lot of people from around the world are sharing information, so you can message me and get added to that.
	Although, Facebook actually gave me this warning, I invited too many people, and it was for my safety, they stopped me from inviting more people that day.
	For my safety!
	Yeah, I don't know, they come up with some crazy things, so sometimes I have to wait until the next day to invite more people, but anyway.
	Censorship.
	It is.
	And the thing is, regardless what side you're on, or what viewpoint you have, nobody should like this.
	Because nobody should be deciding what truth is for us.
	You know, it's like, what is it, that World War II quote?
	It's like, first they came for whoever, group of people, and I did nothing.
	Then they came for this other group of people, and I did nothing.
	And then they came for me, and there's nobody here.
	Nobody left.
	Yeah, nobody left.
	And that's what's going to happen.
	People who aren't outspoken because it's like they're not censoring people they like, one day they might.
	And when they do, you know, the problem is going to be huge and then it's too late because it's become a dictatorship of just them force-feeding you whatever perspective they want and for whatever agenda they want.
	I mean, Facebook, Twitter, All these, I mean, they're hiring psychologists, they're hiring scientists.
	They don't just want to, I mean, it's like Edward Bernays.
	It's like Edward Bernays didn't want to just understand his uncle's work, Sigmund Freud, in regards to understanding the brain. He wanted to understand how to
	manipulate the brain. And that's exactly what social media is doing. Big tech is not just wanting to
	understand humans. They want to understand how to manipulate humans. And they're doing it.
	I mean, there's been study and study of them, like knowing when you and your significant other
	are going to break up or get married or whatever, based on where you are and what you're posting
	and algorithms and all this stuff.
	Like, we've all become just numbers.
	And I think, you know, again, like I said, we should all be fighting for this because freedom of speech isn't here to protect popular speech.
	It's here to protect unpopular speech.
	So people can be outspoken and say things.
	And when you're censoring the president, because, you know... Exactly!
	Twitter's censoring their president.
	How is this possible?
	Well it's crazy, and the crazy thing is they have porn on Twitter.
	Who are you protecting?
	You have porn on Twitter, okay, and you're censoring the president.
	What do you think is more dangerous to your users?
	It's and most of the things they censor are so like ridiculous, like, you know, this election was a fraud or it's like, you know, you're censoring that.
	Like, that's his opinion.
	And have you investigated it?
	Do you know if there was enough fraud where the statement is true or untrue?
	It's like, no, you you've picked a team and you defend that team.
	And, you know, and it's scary because so much of younger people, you know, people under, you know, 40, people under 30.
	I mean, the younger you get, the more likely they get their information from big tech.
	You know, now you're influencing them.
	You know, I always say, you fight bad ideas with good ideas.
	You don't censor the bad ideas, you know?
	And universities, that's... I mean, I never went to college, but that's what I was told.
	Universities are supposed to be a place where you go and challenge ideas and you explore ideas.
	Now it's like, no, no, no.
	Universities are where they just push, you know, a idea and then have you accept that as the only idea.
	It's sad what our education system has turned into.
	I was able to question everything in my education.
	I was lucky, but I know people telling me now they get marked down a grade if they go against what the teacher's opinion is on a certain thing.
	That's unbelievable and sad.
	It's a terrible way to teach.
	It's not any critical thinking going on there.
	Well, how do you think you, not to hold you up too long, but I'm always curious on how somebody like yourself who did go to university, obviously becoming a doctor, that means you spent a lot of time at the university and it takes a lot of time.
	How do you think you broke through that or how did you not get brainwashed by just accepting the narratives that you're being given?
	I was lucky and I had some really good teachers along the way, but then I was also a very stubborn kid.
	And I would still question even if they said I was going to get in trouble, you know, you couldn't stop me.
	I mean, I think that was my nature since I was a young kid.
	So it's part of my nature.
	And then along the way, I had some, I was fortunate enough to have some good teachers.
	In fact, in my public school, they would say, okay, we learned what the institution wants you to learn to close your books.
	Now here are all these other books.
	And I want you to start looking and seeing other people's opinions.
	Now, this is not part of the institution.
	I'm not supposed to do this, but you need to know that you need to question everything.
	And we started looking, well, this is different than what we were taught in the book.
	They're like, yeah, what is your opinion?
	They would never tell us to think, what is your opinion?
	It was very valuable.
	And I was very lucky to have teachers like that.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	Yeah, that's why I've always been really intrigued with philosophy, because there's just, it's more questions than it is answers.
	It's always like, you know, it's people, I mean, you look through the history of philosophy, it's always people debating and never really come to a conclusion.
	And I'm like, that's exactly how we should look at all things.
	Like, just, you know, understand that there is no... Question everything.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's okay.
	It's okay to question everything.
	So make somebody intelligent.
	That's what makes life, you know, great and interesting and passionate, right?
	You start to open up your mind.
	It's awesome to be like that.
	Yeah.
	And it's great that you're encouraging your kids like that.
	It's awesome.
	I know they're a handful, but I know I was a handful when I was a kid.
	But you know what?
	Look what I turned out.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, I was the same way.
	I wasn't the easiest kid because I was constantly getting in trouble too, for the same reasons, because I was always going against the grain and asking too many questions.
	And it's like, why, why, why don't you just listen?
	You know, people would just be like, why didn't you?
	I'm like, well, I'm like, cause it doesn't make sense.
	And I don't get, you know, so.
	Yeah, I think in the long run, like we're discussing, those tools are going to be much more beneficial than any reward they might get currently because they just listen and just don't ask questions.
	I think in the long term, Being critical thinkers and being able to really explore different philosophies and opinions and perspectives.
	I mean, that's so, I mean, I use this metaphor a lot.
	Like, I feel like life's a giant puzzle and everything that we discover, everything that we kind of begin to understand is one more piece to that puzzle.
	And I know by the end of our journey, we might not have all the pieces where we know what the image is, but I'm hoping I can collect enough of them where I have a better understanding.
	And so I think that's important.
	We should all be exploring and discovering and asking questions and understand that we might never come to any real answer about any of this, but soul searching and trying to just discover things and ask questions, I mean, you might be a little closer if you do that.
	Right.
	It makes you better prepared in life.
	I think people that learn that way, no matter what problem is presented to them, they can kind of puzzle it out or get through it much better than the person that's always given the answer.
	Because if that person isn't there, the multiple-choice answers aren't there.
	They don't know what to do.
	They're stuck.
	That's what we see now with young adults, right?
	But if you're just always inquisitive and questioning, you become more self-sufficient, you know?
	You can get through a problem.
	You can get through life.
	Well, isn't that what we mean when we say somebody's street smart compared to book smart?
	Right.
	I mean, there's people who are book smart.
	So according to the resume, they're supposed to be super intelligent.
	Then you sit down and try to have a conversation with them where there isn't just information you can regurgitate.
	They can't apply it.
	And that's so important.
	Like being able to just regurgitate information for information's sake is meaningless.
	Like, why is it important?
	Does it help you better understand yourself, the world around you?
	Can you apply it to something?
	That's the information that sticks with you.
	That's the information that seems important.
	And that's what people have to ask.
	If you're just regurgitating information, you don't know how it benefits your worldview or help expand your understanding of anything, then what's the point of it?
	It's just a way of getting rich.
	And things always change.
	Our world's always changing, right?
	That's a good thing.
	So you can't just have the same ideas forever.
	I mean, we're always exploring and learning.
	That's what makes life interesting too.
	And everything is changing.
	It's always going to change.
	It's good.
	Well, isn't it funny how we kind of look down upon people who are like, admit that they're wrong or admit that, you know, it's like, wait, isn't being wrong just means I'm a little closer to being right?
	Like now I have a better understanding of something.
	Like if I admit like, oh yeah, like I haven't thought about it that way.
	It's, I think ego gets in the way a lot where people, you might say something and instead of seeking truth or seeking information and knowledge, they just want to be right. So
	they're just disregarding any points you make and they're just going to
	try to win the argument. And it's like it's not about that. It's about
	learning.
	And we all learn.
	And I always say, I'm not married to any ideas.
	This podcast isn't just a journey for the listeners.
	It's a journey for me.
	I learn after every conversation.
	I analyze, like, what did we talk about?
	What did I say?
	When I was making a point, did I verbalize it in a way that made sense?
	And if it doesn't make sense after I said it out loud, maybe I should re-examine it.
	Maybe I should self-reflect a little more.
	All these things are things that we should constantly be doing.
	We shouldn't just say, this is where I stand forever and I'm never going to change.
	I think that's what the new education now with kids, like a lot of the sports team, nobody wins.
	Everybody's a winner, right?
	And all these kids I see, they're always straight A students, like everyone's a straight A student.
	Wait, that's not possible.
	I mean, we've changed our How we evaluate people and to me, it's a disservice to everybody because then they have to be perfect or they're no good.
	So that's why I think that goes into the thing when they're having a conversation with somebody, they have to have in their head that they're right.
	Or maybe they were told they were perfect their whole time throughout school.
	No one's perfect.
	You know, and it's too bad that we lost that kind of thing.
	I mean, I felt bad about myself in school.
	It's kind of typical, you know?
	I never felt like I was doing good enough, but you know, it made me push harder and strive
	for more.
	I wasn't the best on certain sports.
	I didn't have that hot hand-eye coordination.
	I knew it.
	I wasn't a good singer.
	I knew it.
	They told me, they said, Carrie, what's the difference between being in a choir and a
	chorus?
	I'm like, I don't know.
	They're like, a chorus is everyone's thing.
	A choir, only some people.
	You're in the chorus.
	I said, oh, okay, so after the five years of singing, I think I'll focus on my academics.
	But it was a good thing.
	It wasn't a bad thing, honestly.
	But what if they just lied to me and said, oh, you're great, you know?
	I would be like one of those people on American Idol that thought they were good and they weren't.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	Yeah, it's wild.
	I mean, our whole school system is just messed up.
	I think there is a lot that kids can get from just, I guess, dealing with losing and disappointment because you can use that as a tool.
	Like, I feel guilty about everything, you know.
	My wife will always be like, why do you feel guilty?
	Because you ate bad.
	Who cares?
	And I'm like, you're right, but I'm not, I don't, this guilt is my tool.
	So tomorrow I do better.
	I'm like, I feel bad about everything and I don't see it as a flaw.
	I see it as it's my motivation.
	So if I miss a day at the gym, my motivation is like, okay, don't make excuses today.
	I don't care how tired you are in the morning.
	You're going, you know, it's, it's a motivation.
	So, When you do things and you actually deal with failure or you deal with losing a game, these are ways of motivating yourself to do better.
	And you learn that when I actually do something and I'm disciplined, it feels good and I succeed and I get rewarded with winning or feeling better physically or whatnot.
	And when I'm lazy or when I lose because I didn't work hard, That feels like crap.
	So let me strive to get those good feelings.
	There are life lessons.
	I know sports a lot of times.
	Growing up, I was a musician.
	I loved art, everything that was art related.
	Drawing, painting, poetry.
	And I'm always like, yeah, sports, yeah, that's kind of overrated.
	And now I look back and I'm like, Nah, I was wrong.
	I mean, like, it's almost equally as important as art, you know, if not more important in some cases, you know, where art, I think, is important because it does expand the way you look at the world and really sparks creativity and imagination, which is funny because they had studies with Yeah, well, it wasn't a study.
	It was kind of like, uh, they were, they were kind of, yeah, I guess it was a study where they were asking young kids.
	I don't know how young they were, but they were, I should really get my facts right before I start telling the story, but I'm like giving everybody like, it's kind of like this.
	It might be that, but basically the idea was that they asked a bunch of young kids
	if they found themselves to be creative when they were whatever age they are.
	Every kid raised their hand.
	So pretend it was like kindergartners.
	Like, hey, how many of you think you're creative?
	Everybody raises their hand.
	Then the next grade, less kids raised their hand.
	Then the next grade, less kids raised their hand.
	And then it got to a point where nobody raised their hand.
	And it's one of those things where I think it's a good way of looking at the problem with schooling
	is that you're really rewarding people who are less creative.
	And you say, those things are a waste of time.
	Don't worry about arts, don't worry about poetry, don't worry about imagination, don't worry about... Taking away all those things in schools, aren't they?
	Yeah.
	And it's like, hey, focus on the things that are going to get you a good paying job.
	Like, you know, be good at math so you can be an engineer or be an attorney or get in the business or whatever it may be.
	And it's like we don't do anything for pleasure anymore or because we love it.
	You know, passion projects are a waste of time.
	You know, labor.
	You know, my parents were like that.
	Like anything that wasn't for And it was because we came here from northern Portugal.
	My parents were poor, so I kind of get it.
	Like, they came here to get financially ahead.
	So anything that wasn't for the purpose of getting financially ahead was a waste of time to them.
	Like, it was just like, no, no, focus on, like, and I'm like, what about happiness?
	What about fulfillment?
	Like, aren't those things important?
	Like, what good is it if I'm rich if I'm unhappy?
	I'm like, so, you know, you see it all the time with the riches of people.
	Messed up kids, self-medicating with drugs, alcohol, you know, because society told them, like, hey, if you follow this path, this will lead you to happiness.
	Then you just follow that path, and you're like, wait, I'm here.
	I did all the things I was supposed to do.
	I got the six, you know, digit salary.
	I got, you know, a nice car, beautiful family, and I'm not happy.
	And it's like, because everything comes with a sacrifice, and having that big house, and having A high-paying career job, it means less time of leisure, less time doing hobbies you enjoy, less time spending time with your friends and family.
	And that sacrifice might not be worth it to some people.
	Exactly.
	And unfortunately, some people, by the time they realize that, it's too late.
	Their wives left them, their kids hate them, and they're left with a bunch of ones and zeros in the bank.
	But what good is that?
	Like everybody says, you can't bring it with you.
	So what good is that?
	But one thing that does last much longer than money is our legacy, like how people think of us.
	The memories people have with us, those are things that even after our material bodies, our physical bodies are gone, people will still discuss the things that we taught them, and the things we learned together, and the experiences together.
	So, I think all these things are super important.
	See, this is why I say, I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual, because I'm starting to sound like a hippie.
	That's an important part of us, though.
	I think too many people have ignored that part of us, and that's why I'm encouraging people and going back to that, and going, I think, in this whole Yeah, without a doubt.
	I mean, even with social media being able to connect with so many people, text messages, all this stuff, we still need to be around people.
	what makes us human and going back to that.
	And I hope more people see that because what really makes us tick,
	what really is important.
	And that's a good thing.
	I've seen a lot of people do that.
	So it's good.
	Yeah, without a doubt.
	I mean, even with social media, being able to connect with so many people,
	text messages, all this stuff, we still need to be around people.
	We still are happiest.
	Like it's not a alternative.
	Like people don't be like, oh, well I've been connecting my friends via text messages
	or social media, so I don't have any desire to see them.
	You still want to see them physically.
	And you do because you know it's not the same thing.
	So I'll shut up now because I've not, now you know why I started a podcast
	because I don't know when to shut up.
	I might go record it, right?
	Bye.
	But thanks again for taking time to chat and I'm sure we'll stay connected and we'll talk again in the future hopefully.

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