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	Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal.
	But I got to say, things have been chaotic the last couple of days.
	And I had a two-hour show on Labor Day that was moved till today and caused an overlap
	with our going live right now.
	Bless my guest.
	I think I haven't had the chance to tell Mitch.
	Can you find his number there, Mitchell, to bring him in?
	Mitchell, are you there?
	Yeah, I see it, Jim.
	I'll bring him in right now.
	Yeah.
	OK, super, super, super.
	Meanwhile, I'll start talking about some of the latest developments out there.
	Trump's approval rating has returned to a pre-COVID level of 52%, a new poll show.
	It's the highest point since February.
	He's closed the gap on Biden, whose incompetence, I think, is becoming Increasingly manifest when when Biden came to Kenosha here just the other day and of course I reside in Wisconsin when Biden came to Kenosha.
	Uh, he was, he was greeted by a cheering squad of one woman, a teacher, a single woman.
	He was in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania now just yesterday, and they held the rally in the backyard of a neighbor.
	There were a turnout of four.
	When Donald Trump came to Kenosha, the line reached 15 miles long.
	15 miles long.
	I mean, the situation is simply stunning.
	Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson has done a brilliant job of exposing what's been going on here on a show on Thursday, the 3rd of September.
	You got Jeff?
	That's me, Jeff.
	Hang on, Jeff.
	I'm just going to finish this point and then I'll bring in my friend.
	Tucker Carlson on Thursday had a fantastic show.
	Now, many of you have heard that Tucker has been sending new records, drawing over $4 million on his shows for the first quarter.
	Well, on Thursday, he hit $4.8 million.
	And I think there were good reasons for that.
	He was exposing that the Democrats have been paying for the rioting and the looting.
	I mean, it costs money to transport these rioters around.
	They have to have accommodations.
	They have to have food.
	Many even appear to be on salary.
	Tucker did was to zoom in on Black Visions Minnesota.
	It turns out that even the New York Times has acknowledged that the rioting and looting in Minneapolis would not have been possible without Black Visions Minnesota.
	It's fantastic.
	When I wanted to replay that show on one of my other programs, I discovered when I went to the link on Google that it had been overlaid with a travel log, an hour-long travel log.
	You couldn't even find it.
	They're trying massively to suppress it.
	Tucker did a brilliant expose, and I compliment it with our cartoon where you see a man saying, look, son, and he's pointing to his or his son to follow.
	Rioters, arsonists and looters are here to teach us about peace and equality.
	I'm so glad to have here as my guest now, a dear friend of many years standing, Jeff from Cleveland, who, as I identify our callers, Jeff, I usually just give their first name and their city.
	I'm so glad to have you here, my friend.
	Give us your latest thoughts, all things considered.
	Good golly.
	So glad to be on your show, Jim.
	Not to sound trite or anything, but it is an honor, and I love our conversations.
	I think right now we are living in absolutely one flew over the cuckoo's nest insane asylum, this country.
	It's insane.
	Yeah, let me add, Jeff, we have been having conversations, not quite, but close to almost every day for what, how many years now?
	Maybe four or five, Jeff?
	I think it's six or so.
	Jeff has a background in Hollywood where he worked as a stuntman and he has fabulous stories to tell.
	And what, something I love about Jeff is he takes a look at events from a perspective that adds a whole new dimension because he can see fabricated events when persons are acting, fabricating, faking.
	Jeff, I love it, my friend.
	You contribute so much.
	Let me say briefly that I just made a few notes if I had the opportunity during this conversation to mention these, but Jim, I want to let you know that I have not watched any TV since last December and that was the last Browns game.
	Cleveland Browns.
	But I'm going to watch TV this Sunday because I'm a sucker for the Browns just like a lot of people on the left are a sucker for the leftist lunatic philosophy and people like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
	I'm going to pronounce it correctly.
	Kamala.
	But yeah, I don't watch TV, Jim, because I worked in that industry for 20 years and I don't need to be told anything by anybody.
	I'll find that on my own.
	I don't, I don't need, I don't need to be sold.
	My cousin told me this.
	I told him there's in the world, there's two types of people.
	There's buyers and there's sellers.
	And he said, yeah, I had a boss and he said, there's, Also, his analogy was, there's hammers and there's nails.
	I'm going to be a hammer.
	I'm not a nail.
	Love it, Jeff.
	Love it.
	Yeah, there's so much fraud and deception here.
	I mean, you know, you and I have often discussed the effects of this lockdown, even on your work.
	And your schedule and your life.
	And of course, you live in a city that has been heavily hit.
	Why don't you talk about some of the ramifications for people you know and for your own life of this fake pandemic, which is coming apart at the seams, but having nevertheless devastating effects?
	Yeah, you know, it's like.
	We all would think just because we've run this It seems to have run its course, but of course there's now these warnings that it's going to be a second wave of coronavirus coming in the fall, which in my opinion, it's just the flu.
	It's just the common flu that was given an exotic name from an exotic place.
	And as I've mentioned to you in our calls, I think that this is like, I think this is a Hollywood production made in China to shut us down.
	I don't know exactly what our president knows about these angles, but, you know, with a 99 point whatever percent survival rate, they went away from the deaths and now it's all about cases, even though they won't report that these people with cases are surviving.
	In fact, As I've mentioned to you, Jim, one of my dear friends of 20 plus years out in LA, in Hollywood, he had a fever of 103 degrees, but he didn't have any respiratory problems.
	But he went into Cedars-Sinai and Beverly Hills, was admitted, tested.
	They declared him to have the COVID-19 virus.
	He was in ICU for three weeks.
	When he first went in, he called me.
	He sounded weak.
	He's 78 years old, and I told him, get on the hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and vitamin D. Tell him, you want it.
	He wasn't allowed visitors.
	Long story short, once they put him on the hydroxychloroquine and that whole program, he was out within a week.
	And I've talked to him and he's much stronger.
	He's much better.
	So, but as far as this area, back to the Browns analogy, I'm sorry, but it works.
	You know, we were on the one yard line about to score a touchdown and get through this and go back to normal.
	And now our governor, Mike DeWine of Ohio, he's a rhino.
	He's a rhino without a horn and he's a rhino without a tail and he's a rhino without balls.
	He's a piece of garbage and people in Ohio cannot stand this guy.
	He has no chance in his next election.
	But he's also got some ties to people like Les Wexner, Haiti, the Clinton Foundation.
	So don't really need to.
	That's pretty simple math there.
	He's he's destroying Ohio best that he can under the guise of public safety.
	Just as the Democrats are destroying America and their states under the guise of public safety, Jeff, it's just outrageous and more and more it appears to be falling apart.
	I even have a new report that actually the COVID-19 is a business plan from the World Health Organization and the World Bank that they've got it mapped out to 2025.
	That they even expect revolts and they've already aligned private armies to put them down.
	I mean, if that is the case, everyone is going to be outraged.
	I mean, the situation is unbelievable.
	We know that mass social distancing and lockdowns are all harmful, not beneficial.
	I publish blog after blog after blog about it at jamesfetzer.org.
	Anyone can check it out.
	Or they can go to jimtheconspiracyguy.com and take a look at my programs on the coronavirus conspiracy and on the DNCC v. Antifa Black Lives Matter conspiracy, because it turns out Black Lives Matter and Antifa are merely the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party.
	Donations to Black Lives Matter go right to blue and are used to pay off political debts of Elizabeth
	Warren and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
	I mean, it's outrageous, Jeff.
	This is one scam compounded by another.
	And then, Jim, too, to take it to use like a separate model, these Marxist organizations,
	BLM, Antifa, of course, they've been around since the Obama administration also.
	This is not reactionary against Trump.
	This has been a model, a business model, like you said, of theirs for many years.
	And ultimately, when you go into a Godfather movie type scenario of who's pulling the strings, I think we both would agree that These people are being paid by China to destroy our country.
	Well, there's a new revelation, by the way.
	Tucker Carlson put it on the air, it's the one with which I began, that George Soros looks like he's the big moneybags who's been paying for all the rioting and looting, and we even have now.
	The latest revelations are that George Soros himself actually, through his son, picked Kamala Harris to be the vice presidential.
	Nominee of the Democratic Party.
	We have photographs of his son with Barack Obama.
	Photographs of his son with Nancy Pelosi.
	Photographs of his son with Hillary Clinton.
	Photographs of his son at the meeting where it was decided in the report that he called his father to say that Kamala was his choice and that his father confirmed it.
	I think the Democratic Party ought to rename itself as the Soros Party because they're certainly not Democratic.
	I agree.
	And, you know, I didn't mean to pin it directly on China, but I think the coronavirus is a retaliation for President Trump getting really heavy handed on them as far as trade.
	But when you say moneybag Soros, he's got so much money, Jim, that he stores a lot of it under his eyes in those things.
	In those bags?
	Got a lot of money in there.
	Yeah, he doesn't have any more, no more room in his pockets for the extra money.
	He's the only one I've ever seen who looked like he could have served as the model for the Emperor in Star Wars.
	You know, I mean, talk about a dark presence.
	And Jim, I worked with George Lucas on the Indiana Jones Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and I would I wouldn't put it past him.
	that George Lucas modeled the Emperor after George Soros.
	Do you think he might have literally, it might be literally true?
	I wouldn't put it past him.
	I mean, that was a long time ago, but it looks like Soros sleeps on his pillow the wrong way
	and it's just not working out too well.
	And he may have looked that way for 20 or 30 years.
	I don't know what his age is now, but it's certainly possible that he was a model for that because Lucas isn't, he's no dummy, so he might have known about George Soros years and years ago.
	Not to mention, you know, that the Stormtroopers in Star Wars are based on the, you know, the Nazi, the whole Nazi regime.
	And The fact that Soros was a Hungarian Jew, I believe, and he went to work for the Nazis and was involved in turning in his neighbors and helping steal their wealth and putting them on the boxcars.
	That's a possibility George Lucas might have known about this guy a long time ago.
	Yeah, he's an international criminal.
	There are warrants for his arrest in many countries.
	There should be one right here in the USA, it seems to me, because this man has been running an insurrection against the United States.
	He's made it very public that his goal before he dies is to bring about the destruction of the United States.
	And he's given it a pretty good try.
	I can't imagine There, you know, as we, as I believe, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say you and I both, because I can only speak for myself, but this guy's been doing all kinds of color revolutions around the globe, you know, devaluing currencies, he's crashed economies.
	And it just seems that it's, it seems beyond greed.
	It seems to be beyond megalomania.
	It seems to be, Um, evilly inspired in some way.
	Um, it's just a bitch.
	I can't think of anyone in history that's been more successful at destroying people's lives.
	And again, why he's still a free person is, is beyond me at this point, but I don't think, uh, our president is unaware of this character.
	And I think he's got a plan and it's gonna.
	Hopefully happen before there's too much more damage, but I don't believe he's going to take this country down.
	I know that's not going to happen.
	Not for lack of trying.
	Yeah, and then, you know, mentioning his son too.
	It's so incestuous.
	All these people.
	Hollywood is known for arranged marriages, and it seems that these.
	These global figures.
	It almost seems like arranged marriages.
	Maybe they just like the same taste in food, like, you know, certain types of babies that they like to eat.
	I don't know.
	That's their, that's their business until it's our business.
	Well, you know, it's interesting, Jeff, that there's been speculation as to what it was that's enabled Joe Biden to make these speeches.
	Seeming to be coherent when his incompetence is palpable.
	They've noticed IV on his hand, and the suggestion has been even transfusions.
	I've heard some speculation it could be adrenochrome, which would not actually under the circumstances in which we live today, and the corruption of key Democrat players here in terms of Pizzagate and pedophilia, including Hillary Clinton.
	But also Nancy Pelosi, who has her own pizzeria, Goat's Hill Pizza in San Francisco.
	I don't think that's beyond the realm of possibility.
	I don't either.
	And, you know, there's what I understand, and there's two ways to invigorate the human body.
	Of course, one would be the adrenochrome, adrenochrome, which is terrorizing a child To release the adrenaline into their blood and then killing the child and drinking the blood.
	But also, maybe on a more humane level, if it's possible, is that they are taking blood of children and just drinking it, maybe without the adrenochrome in it.
	But nevertheless, it gives them some youth, some energy.
	It's the rich man's cocaine.
	The rich man's cocaine, Jeff.
	It's vampiric.
	But it's so sick!
	It is so sick!
	Well, you know, Jim, to the elites, we are, you and I and everyone else, we are viewed as animals by them.
	And, you know, I like a good steak.
	And to them, eating a human pineal gland or eating a baby's flesh To them, it's just the next step.
	They just think it's all, no problem.
	It's just what we do.
	That's what we do.
	Let me just add for the benefit of the audience, and if they're not really familiar with the history of Pizzagate, Which is the American franchise of Pedogate, which is a worldwide phenomenon.
	Go to JimTheConspiracyGuy.com and check out my show on Pizzagate.
	Profoundly disturbing.
	You better have a strong stomach, not for children.
	You need to realize this is a very serious problem and the evidence is overwhelming, but it's gut-wrenching.
	And at the end, I even issue warnings internal that you may not like what you're about to hear that is profoundly disturbing.
	I don't know that you ever had a chance to check that show out, Jeff, but I put together a consolidation of the research I've done, where there are others who have done even more extensive work.
	Joaquin Hagopian, for example, has a whole series of essays, his books, upon it.
	He may be the world's leading expert on this phenomenon.
	Now, Jim, on that point, no, I didn't see that show, but I've been following it.
	I've been aware of it for years.
	There's been, as you know, I'm on Twitter daily.
	Friends of mine have criticized that, but I tell them that I don't watch TV and I follow over a thousand people and I can pick who I want to listen to and I can decide if I believe this information or not.
	But there have been some interesting videos by these celebrities like Tom Hanks, Ellen DeGeneres, others, where they look emancipated somewhat.
	And the theory is that they Their supply of adrenochrome has been cut off and they don't look too good.
	So that's a possibility.
	A litmus test!
	A litmus test to identify Hollywood celebrities who have been participating in this bizarre practice.
	I mean, it is so vicious.
	It is so demonic that it involves child sacrifice, instilling fear into the children so their adrenaline is pumped into their blood and then sacrificing them In order to drink their blood with the adrenaline enriched ingredients that gives them a more youthful appearance.
	Yep, it is sick beyond words, sick beyond words.
	But what you're suggesting is if we look now at current Hollywood celebrities and other elites who seem to be aging really, really rapidly, that would be a sign that they're engaged in the adrenochrome phenomenon.
	And that's part of the thinking.
	It sounds very roundabout, but the shutdown seems to be coordinated with the taking down of these pedophile rings, because if the children aren't at the schools, then they're not easy targets out in the public.
	And also, The Ghislaine Maxwell, I've been, you know, this is a lot of news that's been coming out from various sources, but there's been so many children rescued since she was, you know, brought into custody that she's most likely cooperating and she's helping them take, you know, for a linear sentence, she's helping to take down these pedophile networks.
	And I mentioned to you the other day, Which I saw from a trusted source, I don't remember which news agency, but there was a pedophile ring in Germany that just got taken down last week that was 30,000 members.
	And this is just, you know, it is disgusting, but if you think the movies about vampires and Dracula were just fantasy, we're finding out that was not.
	That was not fantasy.
	Hold that thought, Jeff.
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	this is uh... jim fetzer your host on the raw deal with my special guest today
	day. Jeff from Cleveland, who has a background in Hollywood as a stuntman.
	And Jeff was just drawing out some of the ramifications, observing a number of prominent Hollywood figures seem to be aging rather rapidly, it would appear, because they're being cut off from their supply of adrenochrome.
	Jeff, this is going to upset a lot of people.
	It's certainly upsetting information.
	I mean, I don't remember the exact figure, Jim, but we know that there's I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of children go missing in the United States every year.
	And what are they used for?
	I mean, it's there.
	And this involves child protective services in every state.
	I just saw that a lot of Children that are classified as runaways are actually, you know, kidnapped and used for these purposes.
	And it's not just their adrenochrome, the adrenochrome from them, but it's also, you know, children being used in disgusting sex acts.
	I mean, these people are, beyond killing children for the adrenalized blood, It's for their own perverse sexual needs, which is, you know, beyond disgusting.
	And I would say, Jim, when I, when I first started working in Hollywood, I was only 22, but I even played when I was 26 years old on a TV show, I played a 15 year old because in Hollywood, um, if you can hire a younger looking after that's a legal adult, You don't have to hire the teacher and the welfare worker to have the kid go to school during the shooting schedule that day.
	So I used to play, my category was known as 18 playing to play younger.
	And, um, I would tell you this, I got, I got a little indication once in a while, but not often at a younger age myself, 22 to 25, roughly.
	I could tell that there were people in positions above me, producers, directors, that I could tell that they had their eye on me somewhat, but they also could tell that I was probably, just from my body language and the way I would interact, they really knew that I wasn't a good target.
	They probably knew that I was too smart and that That wouldn't be a wise move, and there's thousands of others to choose from.
	In other words, I didn't get approached by anyone for any weird stuff out there, but now I'm finding out that it's much more common than I even knew when I was there.
	Ignorance is bliss, and I thought I was just living the high life as a young man in the movie business, but finding out later that there's so much going on, The underbelly is very uncomfortable, disgusting.
	I'm so glad I didn't experience that out there.
	I can tell you that.
	I think you were lucky, Jeff.
	I mean, you had to be the exception for reasons such as those you've just adduced, because we get reports every now and then from child stars that the Hollywood scene is actually quite grotesque beneath the surface.
	It is.
	There's several notable examples like this actor Corey Haim, H-A-I-M, claimed that he was raped during the filming of a movie when he was a teenager by his co-star and by a producer, I think.
	And then there's the case of Heather O'Rourke, Who was the little girl in the movie Poltergeist, the little blonde haired girl that says they're here to the television.
	I've read a lot that suggests that she was actually gang raped to death when she was like about seven or eight years old.
	God.
	By by by these producers, director, whoever was in on it, they were.
	She died at a young age and.
	I know you want to go into more detail.
	It's just, it's just, it's absolutely heartbreaking that, you know, what they, you know, and the parents a lot of times will, they might even know what's going on, but that's called, you know, the, uh, the set mom, the set mom and dad that the children don't even really want to do it, but they're just, What's the word?
	into it by their parents and then the parents find out later what's going on and it's too
	late.
	Now it's too late and the child is making them hundreds of thousands of dollars and
	we're not going to we're not going to turn our backs on that.
	So and then you know it's just it's it's it's what's the word.
	I mean it's it's horrible what what happens to some of these children out there.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And you know, you being up there, right there in Hollywood, really in the midst of it, not actually only in retrospect, realizing what was going on.
	It's really a stunning situation.
	But fortunately, I mean, you are a survivor, Jeff, you actually were able to work your way through it.
	Without suffering the kinds of profoundly adverse effects that have hit so many.
	In a sense, I guess I am a survivor, but I was a little different, Jim.
	I had an attitude at a young age out there, because I was a little old for my years, really, and anyone that thought they might Try and persuade me in a direction I didn't want to go.
	They found out pretty quickly that I wasn't someone that they should really make an effort with because I just think it's, you know, it's in your eyes.
	If they could see that I could see right through them, then they were smart enough to know.
	All right, let's not going to do that.
	Not going to try it.
	Don't try it.
	Don't try it.
	There's just like I said there's thousands of other subjects that they can approach so that's the thing about that business Jim is so you know when you're a young person out there and you're you know you really want fame and fortune that's why anyone goes out to Hollywood as an actor or a director or whatever that's what you're after fame and fortune and too many times people Put their morals aside to get where they've always thought they wanted to go.
	And when they finally get there, if they've had to put up with this abuse, then their life is a living hell because they realize they've sold themselves to get something that they realize finally doesn't really even mean anything.
	And that's why I don't even watch TV and I don't watch movies.
	I just can't do it.
	And it's not only this subject that turns me off, but I realized from being behind the scenes on a set that even, and I did about 500 TV commercials, and I would hear the director and the ad agency talking between takes, and it's all about manipulation.
	It's all about manipulating the viewer, the public.
	And the truth is, Jim, I hardly even buy any clothes or anything anymore because I'm not a consumer.
	And the reason I'm not a consumer is because nobody's telling me that I need to buy this or that.
	So I'm not, my brainwashing is done.
	I don't, nobody, nobody is going to tell me how to think, what to buy, how to impress the girls, anything.
	I'm my own person, and I don't need television.
	I consider it the washing machine.
	It's a brainwashing machine.
	And I like my brain the way it is.
	It's all right.
	Okay.
	It is.
	The television is the greatest brainwashing mechanism, the greatest instrument of propaganda ever designed by the hand of man.
	There's no doubt your take is exactly right, Jeff.
	And beyond that, Jim, it's also the most addictive drug in the world.
	Television is a drug.
	Well, it certainly fills similar functions, so I think you can make the case.
	You might want to elaborate, but I think a lot of people are going to find that highly plausible.
	Well, I'll put it this way, you know, when we're talking about any type of addiction, I shouldn't even say if.
	Most of our public in the United States wakes up, and they put on the TV, and they want to see the news.
	And we know from what's known as the 4 a.m.
	talking points, all the news channels locally, regionally, and nationally, and it's verbatim, word for word, They are pumping their stories, their objective, their narrative into Americans' minds, but not too many people that work their 9-to-5 job can get up, take a shower, make their coffee, and sit down and NOT turn on their TV.
	They can't do it.
	It's an addiction.
	Because everyone thinks that there's something they haven't seen, there's something they need to know, and the corporations that run these news outlets know that.
	So it's like, it's just like walking into a public square, there's the guillotine, and I just have to go and put my neck in the slot, because that's what I do every day, and people don't even realize what they're doing.
	They're killing themselves.
	They're killing their own free thinking every day by just turning that thing on.
	I will not do it.
	I won't watch it.
	Although, again, like I said, I'm going to watch the Cleveland Browns.
	And even though that could be fixed, the NFL, I don't know.
	But I'm rooting for our star running back.
	His name is Nick Chubb.
	And he almost had the rushing title last year.
	And he's very soft spoken.
	He's a hard worker.
	So that's my excuse for watching any TV is just to watch a great athlete.
	That's very unassuming and he's one of the best in the NFL.
	So even if it is fixed, I'm just going to watch it to watch him perform.
	But sorry for sorry to get sidetracked, Jim.
	Well, no, I mean, you know, I think it turns out Major League Sports really is entertainment.
	And that they're not actually presenting bona fide athletic competitions that they are rigged.
	I mean, the revelation to me came not simply because I had a correspondent who would send me the, you know, the, who would win a game based upon the betting line.
	And I'd never known him to be wrong.
	But when I was watching the Superbowl.
	With the Seattle Seahawks facing the Patriots and where the Patriots have been favored, but Seattle, you know, a long pass on the one yard line.
	The ball was up in the air and caught.
	It was just fascinating.
	Four plays to make a touchdown here.
	You know, there was plenty of time in on the first pass.
	Russell, first play, Russell passes instead of handing off to Lynch, one of the best backs in the football league.
	It would have been an easy way to score.
	and he passes, it's intercepted, and then you have the end go deliberately off sides
	to give him five yards more a cushion.
	I mean, it was just blowing the game deliberately.
	There was no way around it.
	That was just to me nauseating, and I've never felt the same way about football since.
	And I'm the same way, Jim, because like one of the commercials I did was I did a commercial
	with Shaquille O'Neal when he was still with the Orlando Magic, and it was a Super Bowl
	spot.
	And I was around, and when you're on a set where they're playing a sport, this was at the LA, not the Coliseum, but the sports arena, they can make anything look, they can choreograph anything and make it look natural.
	To the casual observer, but to anyone that's been behind the scenes.
	I can spot these what you just described.
	It's just so obvious to to someone that's got a little knowledge about it.
	The other thing about sports, especially the NFL gym, and I pointed this out to people in bars or wherever.
	You never notice because they're all excited for the game to start.
	And the NFL.
	Every single broadcast on TV, it shows the NFL logo and it says, welcome to the following presentation of the National Football League, which is a disclaimer to me, meaning it is not, like you said, it's not an actual documentation of professional competitive sports.
	It's a presentation.
	It's a spectacle.
	It's entertainment.
	It's scripted.
	A lot of times, I think it is.
	And Jeff, you and I have spoken of this, you know, on our conversations when I've taken these walks.
	About how the NFL or the NBA is really obliterating itself by its involvement in politics when they, you know, kneel during the playing of the National Anthem or when they go for Black Lives Matter, when they plaster it all over their uniforms.
	I mean, look, this is so absurd.
	These are black athletes who are some of the most adulated figures in American society.
	They're paid astronomical Uh, salaries they grossly do not deserve.
	It's all because there are national network contracts with the NBA and the NFL because of the advertising they get this based on the number of viewers and the fact that they're politicizing their spot.
	Their sports is cutting their viewers dramatically, which means that necessity.
	that the national networks aren't going to be able to give the kinds of generous contracts
	they've given in the past, which means inevitably their own salaries and the way in which they are
	admired by the public is going to take a severe hit. They seem to have no sense at all that they,
	like the Democratic Party, are shooting themselves in the foot by doing this.
	Well, Jim, we talked about this too. Shooting oneself in the foot
	Bye.
	That's what they are doing, certainly.
	But, you know, the whole, I don't know if you saw this, I sent it to you before the show, uh, Biden was on video and audio today saying that Donald Trump is the one that wants to defund the police.
	You know, I think this is proof of his loss of his cognitive faculties.
	I mean, what could you have as better proof that the man is brain damaged and unqualified for the office than he would make an absurd claim like that?
	Well, it's just that is actually indicative of how ignorant they think their voting base is, is that they can say things like that and no one's going to challenge that or it's Jim, these people, this is the insane asylum.
	The Democrats are over and done with forever and ever.
	At least this version of them.
	And for them to embrace Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Jerry Nadler, the penguin, says that Antifa is a myth, he said a couple months ago.
	I mean, it's just ludicrous.
	Is there a better word than ludicrous?
	I don't know.
	I need to search my thesaurus because it's it's it's it's just so insulting, Jim, that they think people are that stupid that their little soundbite is going to go out and get them another 100 votes or 1000 votes, which is not going to happen.
	They're just they're they're caving in on themselves.
	It's immolation.
	It is.
	I've compared them to the Buddhist monks, you know, and their acts of self-immolation.
	At least they had a worthy objective of protesting the war.
	These Democrats have nothing worthy about them.
	They're totally corrupt.
	And they're willing to destroy the United States in a misguided effort to regain political control, which is not going to happen.
	I'm predicting that the Republicans are going to say, really, it's Donald Trump.
	Between 40 and 49 states, the sole exception being California.
	But I'm telling you, I have friends who even think California could be within reach.
	I mean, the Democrats have gone so far out.
	They are so despicable.
	And it's so obvious.
	It's so blatant, Jeff.
	I don't think even the dumbest person who pays the least attention to politics can miss it.
	And, you know, Jim, it's so disheartening, and you know, when you were talking about Biden, Kamala, you know what they are?
	Because they just change their tune all the time, and Jim, they are, it just occurred to me as you were talking, my better analogy, the better description of them, they are Lower than used car sales people.
	Yeah, I hope that's right.
	This car is so great.
	It was driven by a 90 year old woman.
	You know, they've already turned back the odometer on it.
	They've already done a pressure wash on the engine compartment.
	And it's a piece of garbage.
	But they're going to tell you it's the steel.
	It's at a great price.
	This is the car for you.
	That's what they do.
	That's all they do.
	They just put lipstick on their own face, which is their pigs.
	They just put on their makeup and they go out and think everyone's going to believe it and no one's believing it anymore.
	It's over.
	Listen, bear in mind now, I want everyone to know that Jeff's glad to take your calls today, as am I. The number 540.
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	You got a chance to talk to a guy who spent a lot of years in Hollywood, knows the place inside and out, has a lot of stories to tell, and a lot of insights to provide.
	One of many reasons why he and I have been such regular correspondents over so many years.
	Jeff, I always have enjoyed our conversations and you really have a different take that I think a lot of our audience is going to find tremendously illuminating.
	I'm glad to be a part of it, Jim.
	And, you know, briefly, You were born in Pasadena and I was, you know, I worked a lot of jobs in Pasadena, so maybe I drove by the house you used to live in one time.
	I don't know.
	Well, you can see Huntington, you can see the Rose Bowl from Huntington Memorial Hospital where I was born.
	And, you know, the place California has changed so much, Jeff.
	When I was growing up in the 40s and the 50s, I mean, it was just a wonderful place.
	You know, all these mountains, the beach, the desert, you had it all.
	It wasn't overcrowded.
	There was a lot of enthusiasm for all aspects of life in California.
	But, you know, what's happened now, it's very, very strange.
	It's referred to locally as Montezuma's Revenge, but actually Chinese have come in and bought up a huge amount of real estate.
	I think California is probably more under Chinese control than it is Mexican.
	How much time is left before the break, Jim?
	Oh, maybe three minutes, Jeff.
	OK.
	But, you know, I have this written down because I've Just occurred to me this morning, kind of in the period of time before, you know, when you're awake, but you're not awake and you're still dreaming a little, but you're kind of awake.
	I could see, and I'm not even joking, I can see Gavin Newsom, because he's all these fires going on out there right now, which they do.
	It seems every time they've blown all their money and they want federal assistance, it just seems that they always have a natural disaster trying to bait the federal government into bailing them out when they've
	been underwater for so long.
	I could actually see Gavin Newsom threaten the president to sell the state to China,
	because they're already there big time. Like you just said, China is all over California,
	and China's influencing these politicians.
	But I'll tell you, Jeff, what's interesting about that is I saw a recent discussion about a 14th
	amendment that the federal government has powers it can exercise against the states in a state of
	insurrection.
	And they're even openly talking about that being the case when you get to these Black Lives Matter and Antifa members, where even it could come to the point where the electoral votes of those states are no longer legitimate because of their state of insurrection.
	Jeff, it's a fascinating situation.
	Which would be the ultimate irony of their efforts to overthrow the government of the United States.
	I mean, they're going that far and they are that open and that blatant about it.
	And as I've said, Jim, they just can't help it.
	Maybe they're wearing their face mask over their eyes, because everywhere they turn, they step on a rake and get smacked in the forehead.
	I know.
	I like your rake metaphor.
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	We're coming up to the break.
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	Squeeze in a final thought before we go to the break.
	Oh, well, to all your listeners, I just mentioned that I can see California being so petty, what is it, the fifth largest economy in the world, that they would sell themselves to China.
	I mean, that sounds far-fetched, but some of my gut instincts turn out to be true, and it might not be next week, but it could be coming.
	Everyone that's listening, you gotta check out Larry Sinclair on the National Press Club on YouTube, where he talks about his one-night stand with buried bathhouse Barack Hussein Obama, where he describes the former president of smoking crack in a limousine while he's receiving oral sex from Larry Sinclair.
	That should open a few eyes.
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	affected your life and your perception of American politics especially.
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	you Well, oddly, you know.
	When I was I moved out to L.A.
	when I was 22, grew up in a suburb of Cleveland.
	Had an uncle out there that would visit Yeah, every year or two.
	And I just was, you know, just wanted to be in the movie business when I was a kid and getting to know him and he was pretty cool guy.
	And I thought, that's my future.
	That's what I'm going to do.
	So.
	I went, I graduated high school barely because I was doing a little partying when I tried to kind of finding myself as an artist.
	Um, didn't really care about school anymore.
	I wanted to find who I was and that was, you know, mainly ego, ego driven.
	Um, thinking I could be the next Tom Cruise.
	So I moved out there and stayed with my uncle, but ultimately at the time when I did, I was leaning more to the left.
	I didn't really know much about politics at all or any corporate agendas or what the left was standing for.
	All I knew was I liked the Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd and have a good time and we're all brothers and sisters.
	Thankfully, I ended up working with a couple of guys that were conservative.
	I worked very closely with.
	Originally, I started off doing extra work, but then Through one of my friends that I come to know.
	He was a conservative and every job he's done since.
	And doesn't matter what studio he goes to.
	He's worked for everybody, but he brings his picture of Ronald Reagan and puts it on his wall in his office and he's a producer.
	And then.
	He hired me as a stand-in, so I worked with this other guy as a stand-in, and he kind of just planted seeds for me, starting to understand that capitalism is really, that's America, and free handouts to everyone else.
	And this was also, this was in the early 90s when NAFTA was passed by Clinton.
	And, you know, in Los Angeles, there's a lot of, of course, there's a lot of people from south of the border.
	And I used to park cars on the side, too.
	And I worked with a lot of these guys.
	And I had some compassion toward them, too.
	They were working hard, very hard, and sending money back to their families.
	I appreciated that.
	But ultimately, over some time, I realized that The liberal agenda was being manipulated and used against the people that they were basically buying for their own, for the votes.
	And, um, I am just so glad, Jim, I've been back in Cleveland for 11 years and I don't miss it right now.
	Um, I did visit a few years ago and I didn't see anything too horrible.
	But I also didn't go down to Skid Row.
	And this is also, of course, before the coronavirus.
	So I can't even imagine.
	In other words, I went to Venice Beach with a girlfriend of mine in 2017, December.
	Venice Beach was Venice Beach.
	I used to work parking cars down there in the mid 90s.
	And it looked just the same.
	It was wonderful.
	It's just, it's a majestic place.
	It's right there on the ocean.
	It was gorgeous.
	But now after the Corona came in, it's most, it's completely shut down from what I understand.
	And now it's a, it's a humongous homeless camp there.
	That's all that's left of Venice beach.
	And it's a, it's a worldwide tourist destination.
	And now it's, uh, it's been reduced to a homeless camp on the beach.
	We got a caller here, Jeff, who I know is going to want to have a lot to say with you.
	He's from California himself.
	Paul, join the conversation.
	Yeah, good afternoon.
	Hey, Jeff.
	I'm originally Cincinnati, Ohio, born and bred, actually.
	Wait, hold on.
	Are you related to Luke Perry or Tom Cruise?
	No.
	They're both from Ohio.
	They're both from Ohio.
	Luke was.
	Yeah.
	As a matter of fact, it's interesting.
	So there's a lot of stuff you talked about.
	We'll touch a bit here and there.
	So on the football scene, I remember very well, I believe it was the late 80s.
	It was either the late 80s or the early 90s.
	I first started betting on football.
	And I would say that is addicting.
	Television, yes, is somewhat addicting.
	But for me, just so much enjoyment can be had from putting a little wager down on college and pro football.
	It enhances the viewing experience.
	You can say what you will about gambling itself.
	But, you know, in many ways now they're just ruining sports.
	It's sickening.
	Uh, you know, I was watching a little bit of the NBA and, uh, my God, I just, I was so nauseated like that.
	I couldn't stand it.
	Uh, Jim, you may have seen some of this ridiculous, you know, what I call a shit show where they have, uh, television screens, big television screens where the audience would be.
	So, you know, it's like a projected, you know, audience.
	Right.
	And they have, uh, each coach that I saw each coach and assistant coach has got a little name tag.
	You know, and it says Black Lives Matter on the name tag.
	A lot of the back of the player's jersey, instead of just having their last name, now has various little phrases like social justice and so on.
	It's equality.
	They're going to take an even bigger hit than I thought.
	I haven't been watching, but what you're describing is just ghastly.
	The public isn't going to go for this.
	They're putting themselves in the toilet just with the rest of the Democrats.
	The ratings are at all-time low.
	You can read about this online.
	It's what they claim.
	I mean, what do we know any really, but what they tell us.
	So what I've seen and what I've read is that the ratings are at all-time low.
	But I urge you, I urge you just to check into any, because the playoffs are occurring right now, which is ridiculous in itself, right?
	September, the playoffs, after an abbreviated season.
	But, you know, there are some compelling matchups here and there.
	There's, you know, no doubt there's some very skilled and vigorous play, and there's definitely some teams that want to win and are going to move on.
	Everybody thought the Milwaukee Bucks were going to be unbeatable, and Miami is dispensing with them quite handily.
	You know, a couple other little things are going on, but yeah, when you see what they've done with this On the court, Jim, on every game that they play, right, on the court, in big black letters, is Black Lives Matter, okay?
	So it's just this disgusting preachiness all the time, they're staying with this theme, and apparently they're going to start to do something similar in the NFL, I've heard rumors now, since they aren't going to allow crowds there, which is of course just stupid and insane, but in the end zone shots, they're going to have varying political messages, you know, Such as Black Lives Matter, such as social justice, racial justice, all this nonsense.
	Paul, Jeff here.
	Did you see, I think what may have got you sparked on this was that, I forget the player's name from the Dallas Cowboys said he's spoken with team officials and he's going to be permitted to kneel for the National Anthem now.
	Well, it's interesting that you mention that because I read a great article that talked about how the inversion is now taking place.
	Because remember, it was a huge deal when Colin Kaepernick and a couple other players were kneeling, right?
	So in that particular case, it was just a few or one guy.
	Everybody else wasn't doing it.
	They were standing.
	Well, now it's the opposite, the inverse.
	Now everybody's going to be kneeling.
	And it's a big deal when one guy doesn't.
	So there was a player, and I forget his name, on the Orlando Magic.
	I could probably find the link.
	And he refused to kneel.
	Everybody else was.
	But he stood for the National Anthem.
	And immediately, within days, his jersey became the highest-selling jersey in the NBA.
	And he wasn't a big star either.
	That's information the NBA needs to embrace.
	They are, as Jim said.
	They're not going to embrace it, no, because they're past the point of money now, okay?
	Look, the bottom line is these people and the people that are behind them, they own the money.
	So, in many cases, they don't care about taking a money hit anymore, okay?
	It's not just about money.
	They're full on this ridiculous, sickening agenda, and it's what I call an agenda of... Well, that's just the near term.
	If they do irreparable damage, These contracts will run out with TV, the viewership goes down to next to nothing.
	Their salaries will take a huge hit.
	And it may not be this year or next year, but it's coming.
	If they don't shape up, they are sports athletes, they're entertainment, and people are already tired of it.
	Imagine in two years if they keep this up, they're going to have nobody left.
	I know, but Jeff, what I'm saying is that's the agenda.
	I don't know how familiar you are with Jim's show.
	Or what some people call the Jewish question, the Jewish agenda.
	But that's what these people are all about is destruction.
	Okay, that's what they do.
	That's what their goal is to destroy.
	I mean, what's the goal of all these riots and protests?
	Okay.
	Among other things, it's not just to destroy property, it's to destroy all forms of cohesion, social cohesion, racial cohesion, to divide and conquer.
	And to basically wreck, I mean, look at the government, look at the schools, everything that they do, and historically this has been what they're known for, is destruction.
	I'm hip, I'm hip, but you know what?
	There's two words that would describe what you're explaining.
	It's called scorched earth.
	That's what they're doing.
	Well, sure, perhaps.
	Scorched earth?
	It's a scorched earth policy.
	Completely destroy all systems, all normality, family unit, everything else, so that once they bring it all to an end, they can then, from the ashes, the phoenix will rise, which is the new world order.
	That's what they want.
	So, just real quick, I wanted to talk a little bit about my football viewing experience, because I've already taken in a couple of games.
	And, Jim, you should know now, I'm 2-0.
	I made three points with Army at Middle Tennessee State.
	Army minus three.
	They won the game 42-0.
	And then just last night, Navy was taking on BYU.
	And actually, Navy opened up a small favorite, and by the time the game went off, BYU was minus one and a half or minus two.
	I don't know if you know about the game or saw any of it, but I want to describe what you saw.
	Was absolutely destroyed. They were down 31 nothing at halftime.
	They couldn't tackle anybody and During the commentary what I found interesting is so
	Kirk Herbstreet and his co-hosts were in the booth and they were easily seven feet apart or more
	They even made a comment about their socially distant in the booth, right and they were talking about having maybe
	Yeah, it's sickening ESPN is totally preaching this code bullshit
	multiple stories about the teams.
	Get this.
	Navy's being tested like twice a week.
	The BYU players are being tested three times a week.
	You know, all the coaches and many of the players wore a mask when they weren't on the field.
	So basically, I'm sure that all the assistant coaches and the coaches got the memo.
	You got to wear a mask.
	The referees were wearing masks.
	Obviously, the players weren't, but many players, when they went to the sidelines, took off their helmet.
	And then put a mask on as if they've been told to do this.
	So this whole thing is just absolutely beyond disgusting.
	Do you know what, Paul?
	Paul, do you know what they're actually doing?
	They're testing for performance-enhancing COVID.
	Is that humor?
	It's a joke, Paul.
	It's a joke.
	They're testing for performance-enhancing COVID-19.
	Right.
	It's the theater of the absurd, is my point.
	No, of course.
	And they're planning to continue this.
	As Jim knows, entire conferences have been killed and their teams have had to basically redo their whole schedule.
	What they showed is BYU's schedule before all this nonsense was actually very robust.
	They had quite a difficult schedule and a chance to prove themselves because they actually do have a pretty good team.
	Return their entire offensive line. Their quarterback is actually quite good quite accurate with the ball
	They had a running game that the Navy just could not stop at all
	But now BYU schedule has been so bastardized you wouldn't even believe it
	They have to play all these different teams including a lot of these no-name teams are not really gonna play anybody
	That's going to give them any challenge at all. And so they're all like we talked about earlier. They're wrecking the
	whole season Well, well, I just want to let you know and I'm just being
	an honest person here. I I really don't even care about college football at all.
	I know Jim does, so I know you're talking to Jim.
	But I will also tell you, I was not an NBA fan before they became so unlikable.
	Just throwing out my two cents.
	But here's the thing.
	The show isn't about what you care about.
	My point is, who cares?
	Stop!
	I just got done telling you, the show isn't about what you care about.
	Oh, you're going to tell me to stop?
	Okay, go ahead.
	This is part of our culture.
	This is part of our culture.
	So I'm just describing what it is I see and observe.
	So it doesn't really matter what you care.
	Okay.
	So, you know, I'm interested to have a back and forth, but you know, please, there's plenty of people I've heard all my life.
	They care about this.
	They don't care about that.
	That's not the point.
	Okay.
	We have a hundred plus years.
	Keep it simple, Paul.
	I don't need to hear about BYU.
	Let's keep it simple.
	It doesn't matter what you need.
	Look, Jeff, I heard you say in the first hour, you want to take me to task about something?
	I heard you say in the first hour that you think somehow that this whole lockdown could have something to do with the pedophiles or taking down the pedophile rings because the children aren't in schools.
	I just thought, what the heck are you talking about?
	It was interesting what you had to say, but there's a number of things that just anybody could pounce on.
	What an absurd notion.
	So it's not that I don't believe some of the stuff you say about what you experienced,
	and I found that to be interesting, but some of the stuff that you had to say,
	I just, to me, it boggled the imagination.
	Let me just intervene here. I am not watching college or pro football.
	So I'm actually finding it informative, Paul, that you're giving us feedback about both and that Jeff doesn't care for college football, I agree, is not the point.
	The point is that America cares about college football.
	I generally care about college football, but even college football is being adversely affected by the coronavirus scam.
	So I'm glad you're talking about it.
	And I want Jeff to, you know, give room here and latitude for, you know, Paul's a regular caller to the show, Jeff.
	So actually he's very well known to the audience.
	And I wanted him to become, you know, become acquainted with you.
	But I mean, you don't need to let your personal preference override, you know, information about what's going on out there because we do care about What it is is cultural Marxism really taking a massive effect by means of the coronavirus scam on American life.
	It's just appalling.
	Go ahead, Jeff.
	Let me just say this to both of you.
	That was just, yeah, I was being insensitive because, Paul, you know, I'm a Browns fan.
	If I was to go on about the Browns, You would understand that too, so I'm sorry that I was finding it to be.
	I thought it was a little bit extra padding on the point we're talking about, but.
	Ultimately personal to you and that's that's that's meaningful.
	So I'm sorry, buddy.
	I apologize.
	No, no, no, no, no worries.
	The point was you just you generally don't want to tell somebody you know when they're talking about so I don't I don't care about that because it does get a little personal but it's not that it's personal to me, but it's just part of part of America.
	I know Jim probably feels in many ways the same way.
	I grew up as a kid, you know, watching in the 60s and the 70s.
	I watched the Rose Bowls and Sugar Bowl, the Cotton Bowl and, you know, all that stuff.
	I did too.
	Still love it.
	Yes, I did.
	Still love it.
	I actually traveled out to California to go to the Rose Bowl this year because, of course, the Badgers were playing.
	Right, exactly.
	So this is just something that's being wrecked and being destroyed for absolutely no reason at all.
	The point that I didn't get to is when Kirk Herbstreit, and I forget his co-host, but he's taken Chris Fowler's place.
	But I enjoy a lot of this stuff.
	It's just part of my life's experience.
	And people look forward to watching their team.
	I mean, there's people in Alabama looking forward to Alabama football.
	In Ohio State, the same thing.
	It's part of their lives.
	You know, they work all week at a job they maybe don't really care about that much.
	And so they have a chance to get jazzed up a little bit.
	Something to be enthusiastic about.
	You know, something to get involved in.
	Paul, can I say this?
	Can I say this, Paul?
	I grew up loving as a little kid.
	Like, you know, 7, 8, 9 turns.
	Every year, it was the Rose Bowl game.
	That was the one.
	I wanted to see that venue, you know, the helicopter shot, Pasadena, the Rose Bowl.
	It's gorgeous.
	And I'm living in Cleveland, Ohio, and it's freezing cold.
	It's 10 degrees outside, and we just got through with Christmas, and now this is the end of the holiday season.
	It's the Rose Bowl game.
	That was the biggest thing to me as a kid.
	And even at that time, I didn't really watch Ohio State.
	I didn't really care much about Ohio State, though I grew up in Ohio.
	But the Rose Bowl game was like sanctimonious.
	It was like, this is the biggest It's New Year's Day and this is the big game and, you know, I didn't care who was in the game.
	It was just so awesome to watch because, you know, we're in the snow and there's beautiful California.
	And that has that effect on a lot of people across the country.
	Right.
	OK, so point being, right, is this is one of the many things that we talk about on this show for years now.
	Jim knows it well.
	I mean, Jim and I are both big enough and I'm sure you are too, Jeff.
	We're grown up enough to know that Nothing really remains the same and that change is inevitable, but what we're talking about here is destruction.
	Complete and total wrecking and destruction of everything that what we've done as Americans.
	Basically, we're a free, prosperous people and we've done certain things over the decades.
	All right?
	I mean, many of these football games, football rivalries go back a hundred plus years.
	So this is something that we've done as a culture.
	It's just another thing that's being destroyed.
	So, quickly, just a comment I was going to mention to Jim about what they were talking about in the booth, is apparently the Navy coaches had made the decision to limit contact in practice because of, quote, the coronavirus, right?
	And so, therefore, they were not very good at tackling and it showed on the field.
	And all I could do is just shake my head and I'm going, and if you remember a few weeks ago, Jim, I made the comment about the fact that You know, forget about the, you know, broken dislocated shoulders and torn ACLs.
	Now we're worried about a flu or a cold.
	You know, it's just ridiculous and it's beyond the pale.
	Yeah.
	Pretty sad.
	It is sad, Paul.
	It is.
	I agree.
	I was fascinated.
	I was fascinated.
	You're telling me NBA, NFL coaches are wearing little Black Lives Matter pins.
	I mean, Kim, come on!
	You've got cable TV, right?
	Of course.
	Okay, we'll go tune in.
	TNT is covering.
	You've got the great halftime cast that you have for years with Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley, Shaq, so forth, Kenny Smith.
	It still has an enjoyable feel to me.
	But yeah, check out a couple of the games.
	You'll see that all the NBA coaches and assistant coaches have a Black Lives Matter pin, like a name tag.
	Name tag that says Black Lives Matter, clearly readable when the camera goes to the coaches, that many of the coaching staff, not all, but some of the coaching staff on the sidelines have masks.
	All the players, in many cases, have on their jerseys, the back of the jersey, they have a Black Lives Matter, they'll have social justice in addition to their name.
	And then big black letters on the hardwood floor, big black letters, Black Lives Matter.
	This is just going to have devastating effects on viewership.
	I mean, devastating.
	Paul, are you aware, and I'm not challenging you, I'm asking you and Jim, are you aware that LeBron James actually met with Barack Obama and that's when he was told to strike I hadn't really heard that.
	I'm sure it's possible.
	Yeah.
	That's where the King James LeBron, and he won us a title in Cleveland, okay?
	Big deal.
	Because the guy's a jerk.
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	my featured guests Jeff from Cleveland and Paul from California.
	Let's resume the conversation, gentlemen.
	Jeff, I think you were completing a thought when we went to the break.
	My complete thought is I'm completely, I've completely, I don't, you know, I don't remember
	exactly where I left off, Jim, but, um, well, I was, I was picking up on Paul's observations
	about the, you know, the NBA and the NFL and all this.
	They are just murdering themselves with the public by politicizing sports.
	We like sports because it's a break from politics.
	And this is just destroying the whole arrangement with the American people.
	I think it's stunning.
	What I had proffered, and I've seen it, is that LeBron James met with Barack Obama and probably Mallory Jarrett and they coached LeBron to tell players of the NBA to go on a strike and then, if you didn't hear this,
	Uh, Adam Silver brought in Michael Jordan to address the players that were at the forefront of this wanting to go on strike.
	And what I heard is that Michael Jordan walked in the room, said, get back to work and left.
	Well, I think he said it all.
	I mean, you know, he's an elegant player and he used a few words to convey a powerful message, which they ignored at their peril.
	And they're going to pay for it massively.
	Paul, I think this is just going to destroy the NBA and the NFL.
	We'll see.
	We'll see what becomes of the NFL.
	But one of the other thoughts I was going to add to this was that I think what it also does is it reinforces this idea of this top-down authority that they want us to believe is firmly in place, and there's no question that.
	When I first heard earlier in this year about no fans in the stadiums, I thought, this is absurd.
	What I would love to do, if I could go out and get organized enough, is just to get all, like, the 49er season ticket holders and everybody else, and we're just going to go.
	There's no way they can stop 50,000, 60,000 people that decide they're just going to go to this damn game.
	It doesn't matter what the county or the city says.
	So one of the comments they made last night, because it was it was a Monday night football game with Navy and BYU, is they made a comment about the fact that Maryland, the state of Maryland, would not sign off on having fans in the stands.
	OK, because there are going to be there are going to be some places and some conferences where it's quote going to be allowed.
	But and they wanted to have it there because traditionally that's a big a big crowd advantage that Navy has playing there in that
	stadium.
	And of course there was zero fans.
	So if you can imagine playing, I mean, look, part of the rush about playing football, I've
	never experienced it, but I've heard players testify that part of the rush is the crowd
	noise and playing in front of the home crowd.
	There's just nothing like it.
	It just goes all the way through your body.
	Absolutely right.
	It's just it's like a band.
	It's like a band.
	You know, the rush, the thrill, the adrenaline, having the fans are yelling and screaming.
	Good God.
	Yes, 100 percent.
	So it's just ridiculous.
	It's like practice playing without the fans is like practice.
	In fact, I was going to mention I saw a very interesting interview years ago With Joe Theismann, okay?
	And Joe Theismann was recounting the day where they got introduced.
	It was many years after the Washington Redskins had won their Super Bowl, and they reintroduced all the players from that team many years down the road.
	You know, it was like on a Sunday, and they brought them out, and most of the players are in their suit and tie, right?
	And they bring them out for like the halftime ceremony, and the crowds applaud.
	Well, John Riggins, if you recall, Jim, John Riggins, the running back, He came out during this halftime ceremony in full uniform, right?
	And it was great, you know, so Joe Theismann recounted the story how, you know, he always liked him.
	He called him Rigo, and he said, what the heck's going on?
	And John Riggins told Joe Theismann, I just wanted to hear it once again.
	And that's what kind of stuck with me.
	Nice.
	Jeff.
	Jim.
	Jim, you said, just like a fan.
	Right?
	Going out in front of the audience.
	And that's so funny.
	He said a band.
	Yeah.
	A band.
	Yeah, Jeff got it.
	Go ahead, Jeff.
	A band.
	A band.
	B-A-N-D.
	Right.
	It's like a band going in front of an audience.
	The rush that they get.
	Yes.
	And the funny thing is, Paul's talking about San Francisco.
	And I believe the last concert the Beatles ever did was at Candlestick Park, where they couldn't even, the fans couldn't even hear them because they were screaming so loud.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, but the band loved it!
	It's the Paul and Jim combined story of Candlestick and the Beatles and John Reagans and, oh, excuse me, but anyway.
	Hey Jeff, one of the things I didn't say when I started my rant at the beginning of the call when I talked about Cincinnati and when I first started just making small wagers on sports, but that was the time where Boomer Esiason was quarterback of the Bengals and they were quite a good team.
	I remember in many ways just automatically making a bet when Cincinnati played Cleveland because not only did they They own you guys, but they more times than not covered, so.
	I can recall that to mind.
	Boomer, and I just, I respect him, but I could never like Boomer.
	He's right there with John Elway, with any Browns fan, because during those, you know, during those years, the Bengals owned the Browns.
	I know.
	No good, man.
	But are you in San Francisco, though?
	Yeah, I'm in the Bay Area.
	I'm actually in San Jose.
	Nice.
	I want to tell you this.
	This is a little Hollywood story, if I may.
	Just to lighten it up a little.
	My buddy's a producer and we flew from L.A.
	to San Francisco.
	My buddy's uncle was Like the offensive line coach of the undefeated Miami Dolphins Super Bowl season.
	Oh.
	So he, my buddy's very close with, he remains close with the team and he was especially close to the Miami Dolphins priest who would travel with the team on the road so that they could conduct mass in the hotel conference room on the Sunday
	before the game.
	Imagine that.
	So anyway, we went to San Fran to watch the Dolphins, and it was Marino era, you know,
	mid, early 90s.
	Stayed in the hotel.
	We actually, we checked in and we went down and sitting at the bar in that hotel,
	and it was like totally surreal.
	Joe Montana and Dwight Clark are sitting next to each other as we walk in like,
	oh, that's a Twilight Zone.
	There's Clark in Montana.
	But ultimately, the next day.
	And I'll make this, I'll shorten it up.
	Literally, because back in those days, I was smoking my illegal, you know, cannabis, so I would I would roll one up and I'd cut it in half.
	And we were, long story short, we were supposed to be getting seats through the priest on the roof of Candlestick Park.
	If you look at old pictures, there was a box on the roof, which was a camera booth.
	And we went up on the roof and we were just kind of like, it was kind of a scam.
	We were trying to just get free seats through the priest.
	The guys in the booth said, okay, who are you?
	We're Sunshine Television from Miami.
	And he goes, well, what's your function here?
	We go, well, we're just delivering this equipment.
	And they're like, no, you can't be in here.
	Like, oh, okay.
	So I went down and it's an outdoor metal staircase.
	And I smoked half of a joint on the roof of Candlestick.
	Threw it away, and then we came down, we got kicked out of the press box, and then we ended up sitting out in the rain watching the game, but that's an unusual story.
	I smoked a little on the roof of Candlestick, and then that place has been, you know, destroyed, demolished.
	I wanted to take it back to initially what you were talking about in the first hour with Hollywood.
	I missed about the first 20 minutes so I wasn't sure because it was what I heard was generically a quote a lot of Hollywood stars seem to be aging quickly and I want to know if you specifically mentioned any.
	I mentioned um well there's a few of them that they here's the funny thing Paul they've been names and posting excuse me I said I said if you know any names go on Oh yeah, no, it's, they've been posting their own, it looks like they're, they've said that they're quarantining at home, but other people have speculated they might even be imprisoned for child violations, but it's Ellen DeGeneres, Tom Hanks, his wife Rita Wilson, there's others.
	They just look like they're falling apart.
	And that's actually an old story.
	If there's more, I've forgotten it.
	There's just so much going on.
	I would just say it's speculation at this point.
	We've all probably seen it.
	It's kind of sort of a tabloid sort of thing, but we've all seen the photos that apparently, you know, at the checkouts or in online articles.
	So, yeah, it's interesting.
	I will say this, because you mentioned Heather O'Rourke, and I actually watched She was part of a documentary I watched, and also I remember reading an article about her.
	I have it saved somewhere on my computer.
	But yeah, Jim, it was interesting.
	So what Jeff was referring to, he used the term rape to death.
	I don't know if that would be accurate, but it was well known that Heather O'Rourke was a favorite.
	Imagine this, a 12, 13 year old girl being a favorite of producers and executives, right?
	Because a lot of times when she was there that others would come around, you know, just to see her and be in the audience.
	And it was rumored she was being basically passed around between all these, you know, these despicable types.
	Right.
	And then one day, she actually was rushed to the hospital.
	Apparently, though, the rush was not enough because there was somewhat of a delay.
	Again, this is a lot of speculation based based upon what occurred.
	But she was taken to the hospital, and I believe she had a prolapsed colon, as well as a tear or two, and some sepsis had set in.
	And she actually died.
	And there was speculation at the time that she was, quote, not necessarily allowed to live, because it was going to be some pretty nasty fallout if the nature of her injuries became known.
	Because apparently they were, she was being not just sodomized normally, but also had been sodomized with objects.
	So if you can imagine, Jim, and again, I have the article somewhere.
	How old was she?
	How old was she, Paul?
	I'm not sure at the time of her death, how old she was.
	I think it was either 12 or 13.
	And again, but I believe that her parents had sued the studio and some of the execs.
	And I think there was a big controversy about the either the autopsy or the lack of an
	autopsy or something like that.
	But as you can imagine that this this would be swept under the rug pretty quickly as much as they could.
	Yeah.
	PR, PR department paying people off from the studio.
	Tell the journalists you're not running this story.
	Anything you know, you're not running it or we'll ruin you or we'll just pay
	you whatever.
	But yeah, that story never got out when it happened, but it's coming out in the last couple of years I've seen.
	Yeah, I thought it was that she was actually raped in dressing room in the studio.
	They called paramedics and she was, you know, they couldn't save her.
	But anyway, I wasn't there.
	I wasn't there.
	Jeff, who are we talking about?
	Heather O'Rourke.
	She was a fellow actress.
	She came up at a similar time to Drew Barrymore.
	And again, you know, if you remember Drew Barrymore from Steven Spielberg's movie E.T.
	and then Heather O'Rourke.
	I like Drew Barrymore.
	She's still around.
	I always thought she was very... Yeah, she's still around.
	Jim, just so you know, the famous movie Poltergeist, she's the little blonde-haired girl, Heather O'Rourke.
	I'll have to track her down or look her up online, Jeff.
	For the two of you and for anybody else in the audience, I will highly recommend the movie you can watch online called Pizzagate and Beyond.
	So if you watch Pizzagate and Beyond, they cover the Heather O'Rourke episode in that film.
	Which is nearly, I think it's two hours and change long, but it's worth taking it.
	And it's quite the topic.
	She had the misfortune of being too beautiful.
	Yeah.
	It's horrible.
	Well, Jeff, I'm so glad to have the chance to have you on, my friend.
	What are your latest thoughts about, you know, you pay attention to a lot of tweets.
	Have you seen some interesting tweets?
	You've sent me some I haven't even had the chance to look at yet.
	Today's been kind of a mad day, because I had a two-hour show I normally do on Mondays, but because of Labor Day, it was carried over until today, and it's made today kind of chaotic for me.
	What about some of the tweets you've seen lately?
	Share them.
	I think I mentioned earlier, though, and Paul may have heard about seeing it, I mean, but Today, apparently today, Sleepy Joe Biden said that the only person that's trying to defund the police is Donald Trump.
	That's what he said.
	He said that he and Kamala are trying to add $300 million to the police and for social workers Paul, is anyone gonna believe such bullshit?
	Is anyone gonna believe they aren't supporting Antifa and Black Lives Matter?
	Is anyone gonna believe they don't want to defund or actually abolish the police?
	Is anyone gonna believe it?
	I mean, this is ridiculous!
	I don't know.
	Well, that's how I think.
	I was asking for Paul to comment on your thought there.
	OK, so I just I will I will briefly I think, you know, I've made my feelings clear on elections in general, and this one in particular is what I call the high watermark of ridiculous, stupid theater.
	Yeah.
	OK.
	Are you pay are you paying attention, Goyim?
	This is how much we don't care what you think.
	The idea that they would run Joe Biden.
	You probably saw that video I sent you about the new and improved Joe Biden.
	Even when he was younger, he was an odious individual.
	He was!
	He was disgusting in his prime.
	He was a plagiarist.
	He was a liar.
	He was a phony.
	He was a fraud.
	And this is the best the Democratic Party can do?
	My point precisely.
	Just unbelievable.
	We got about six or eight minutes left, Jeff.
	I want you to have the chance to share with us anything you'd like to share with the audience.
	It's a real pleasure to have you here, my friend.
	You and I talk often, but you don't have the opportunity to reach my audience.
	Hello, hello.
	Jim, I'm back.
	Jeff, you were gone?
	Yeah, I don't know what happened.
	All of a sudden it disconnected.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, I was saying how you and I have the opportunity to talk often, but you don't have the opportunity to reach my audience.
	I'd just like to share anything.
	Take the opportunity to share with my audience what you think they need to observe about
	the present political scene, the madness, the insanity.
	Well, this is, um, I'm going to, all right, I'm looking at a couple of notes, but it makes
	me think, and I will, I'll say this.
	Thank you.
	This is my opinion, Jim, because this is all I do.
	Like you, I don't... I'm trying to figure this out.
	There's just so many variables, there's so many moving parts, and I'm talking about over decades.
	You don't have to try that.
	What's really going on here?
	For instance, we know that George H.W.
	Bush was a Nazi.
	Oh, please.
	He may have been, under a different name, imported under Project Paperclip to the United States.
	This is Dallas Goldbug stuff here.
	No, no, no.
	What he's saying is true.
	We know that.
	Did George H.W.
	Bush was imported under Operation Paperclip?
	That's basically what he just said.
	It's possible.
	I'm just throwing it out there.
	I'll give you my email.
	You can send me all your rebuttals.
	The only thing that's been proffered before is that President of the Union Bank and that they had given some loans or funds to the party in Germany or to, you know, to the, to the family name is chef.
	I think this is all fairly well documented, Paul.
	Actually, I'm kind of surprised you're contesting it.
	Well, but, but I'm just contesting the idea that, okay, he was, he came over with Operation Paperclip like what?
	I don't know whether he came to Operation Paperclip.
	Paperclip's another question, but you know a whole lot of Nazis came in here.
	He did operate in Paperclip.
	A lot of Germans came here, so we know that.
	Okay.
	Okay, Paul.
	To continue.
	What happened was Mitchell's internet dropped.
	I don't know how we stayed on the line.
	I guess we did.
	Mitchell's internet dropped.
	Paul, I want to thank you for talking.
	Go ahead.
	I had a couple of questions.
	I didn't know if you'd done any work.
	I hadn't caught any of your shows that recently, but if you've done any work questioning the authenticity of either this Kyle Rittenhouse thing or the Jeff Blake thing.
	I don't know if you've done any work on that and what your thoughts were.
	I follow Lin Wood, who is representing Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitter, and they're going to own Facebook.
	That kid is going to own Facebook.
	They've called him a mass murderer.
	Yeah, I don't know about that.
	You don't know?
	Oh, I do.
	What else do you want to know?
	He's not going to own Facebook.
	Kyle Rittenhouse is, in my opinion, kind of a national hero.
	I can't believe he was so successful in defending himself.
	It was clearly self-defense.
	They were trying to do him in.
	The Jacob Blake thing is bizarre.
	He claimed to have been shot seven times.
	I just saw an interview he gave.
	He wasn't even connected to the IV, Paul.
	This is reminiscent of Las Vegas, where they were interviewing alleged victims of the shooting who were standing up when they had their legs shot with an AR-15.
	I mean, it was ridiculous.
	That looks incredibly fake.
	Hey Jim, I thought the same thing, and it's funny because he gets shot seven times in the back.
	He must be wearing a bulletproof vest.
	How do you survive seven shots in the bat?
	That is very interesting, because he could not have been shot all those times with a 9mm and be alive.
	He couldn't have even been shot twice with a 9mm.
	That cop might have been shooting blanks too, Jim.
	Bam, bam, seven shots!
	I saw the video!
	Okay.
	That's interesting because Jeff comes from a Hollywood background, Paul.
	He may be talking about a scenario that was actually a scripted scenario with blanks.
	That's entirely feasible.
	The guy looked in great shape lying there in the hospital bed, Paul.
	I saw him in the hospital.
	He looked like he had, you know, had tonight's Thanksgiving dinner.
	Hang on for a second.
	Okay.
	Just hang on.
	So the reason I mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse, right?
	It's because there's quite a few good threads.
	I'm involved in one of them on some of these sites that I'm not sure about that one either because there's no flash at any time.
	You don't see a flash at all.
	And it doesn't make the sound of a gunshot when, for example, Kyle Rittenhouse is walking away after he supposedly shot these two guys.
	You can hear other gunshots in the background.
	All right.
	And they sound like gunshots.
	But when Kyle and the same phone that filmed it is the same phone.
	Right?
	With the same audio, filmed them walking away.
	When Kyle Rittenhouse shoots those two guys, it's a poof, a poof.
	Sounds just like an airsoft gun.
	So I have my doubts about the authenticity of that, too, and there's multiple other people... That's because you watch too many movies.
	A .223 doesn't make a huge blast sound.
	An AR-15 makes a gunfire sound, I've heard it.
	So the bottom line is it does not make the sound of a gun.
	Makes the sound of an airsoft gun is what it makes.
	And the fact that there's no flash is really hard for me to get away from, especially when you can clearly see the end of the barrel when he shoots the guy in the arm, okay?
	There's a separation of a few feet, you can see the end of the barrel, and when he fires, zero flash.
	And there was no flash on the other one either, so I just, again, I have my doubts about that.
	That could have to do with the camera speed, too.
	I fired an AR-15 just a couple of weeks ago, so you know.
	I didn't notice these oddities, Paul, but it's certainly worth going back and taking another look.
	I think this guy was just phenomenally good at handling himself.
	I'm very impressed.
	I don't With regard to the Kyle Rittenhouse, I don't have any reason yet, but you're raising questions to think that wasn't all on the up-and-up.
	But the other thing, being shot seven times in the back, that's just ridiculous.
	And the guy, as I see, wasn't even connected to an IV drop.
	He had no monitoring.
	It looked totally fake in the hospital.
	Got it.
	What I understand... Jeff, Jeff, thank you.

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