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Aug. 19, 2020 - Jim Fetzer

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The Fetz Presents: Jack Mullen (18 August 2020)

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	All right, my friend.
	This is Jim Fetzer on Fetz Presents with my special guest this evening, Jack Mullen, whom I featured before and who has made me the most sober assessment of the situation we're in of anyone I've ever known.
	I have Reasons to be more optimistic than Jack, but I don't want us to be disillusioned by, you know, wishful thinking.
	So I'm very pleased to have the opportunity for Jack to say his piece and for us to discuss it.
	Let me just mention for those in the chat room, if you have any questions for me and Jack, put them in caps.
	That way it's easier for me to identify.
	Meanwhile, Jack, I say lay on, McDuff.
	Okay, well, anyway, thank you for having me on again.
	It's always fun to come by and say hello to you, and we always have an interesting time at the beginning.
	It seems like I bring you nothing but not so good luck at the start.
	But anyway, this time we're only eight minutes in, so I think last time it was 15 minutes, and So we're doing better.
	Not a problem, Jack.
	It's modern technology, you know.
	It's fraught with hazards.
	It's easy to mess up, easy to interfere, easy to, you know, disrupt.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	Well, anyway, so yes, I seem to have a different opinion about some things than you.
	I mean, for the most part, you're pretty much the same as me.
	There's just a couple of Minor places that I pay more attention to than you do, and you do, of course, the other way around.
	I'm not sure how minor they are, my friend, but, you know, go right ahead, Jack.
	I mean, I can't, you know, for the enjoyment of the audience, I can't, I can't share your love of the Donald, and I've been overwhelmed with people that are, you know, following the QAnon stuff.
	I mean, QAnon Love Fest and so forth, while at the same time, Donald Trump's reminding us that he's going to bring the military in for vaccinations in a hard way.
	So I think, you know, we have a lot to be concerned about.
	But anyway, I finished a new article today, by the way.
	It's called, it's sweeping across Australia and New Zealand.
	A deadly outbreak.
	And then dot dot.
	So you really don't know what I'm talking about.
	I think it has an interesting picture.
	You know, Jack, you gotta tell Steph I hadn't had a chance to look at the article she sent me and I'm feeling very badly about that now that you mention it.
	I just realized that Mondays are horrendous for me.
	I have all these shows and, you know, things can slip by.
	Just tell Steph I'll make it up.
	I'll take a look.
	I'll catch up.
	I will remind her.
	You can tell her.
	So, anyway, the topic of this show is the rising police state and this Corona takedown.
	Yeah, CP terrorism and the police state lockdown was how I put it.
	Right.
	And so anyway, I think there's so many different correlations between what's happening here today and, you know, what was forecast by people like George Orwell.
	Because there's so much similarity in the nonsensical world that we're living in.
	It's a entirely managed lie.
	It's most disturbing in the sense that most people can't pick up on the fact that they're being taken or being played.
	So I've spent a lot of time in this article talking about the mass zombies.
	It is something of some concern of mine about the masks, and then we'll talk about New Zealand and Australia, but masks in general, you know, this does seem to be some submission ritual, and people are submitting with ease, but it has other aspects.
	It prevents you from being able to smile, for example.
	You can't recognize people in a mask very easy, so you can't communicate with your face, which we normally do, and so as a result of that, you know, your individual He seems to be taken away, or just a basic drone in the system of cog and wheel, where the wheel belongs to somebody else.
	And so I see that as some sort of demoralizing feature, if you want, in the idea that Remenov had.
	Regarding the four stages of Marx's takedown, the first stage was demoralization, and the second stage was destabilization, and then crisis, and finally normalization.
	And you can see where we are.
	I mean, clearly, the people in this country have been destabilized.
	Well, demoralized, demoralized.
	Well, they've been demoralized, but they're now being destabilized.
	Yes.
	And we have, we're facing the crisis and we're in the crisis, but the crisis yet has not reached its peak.
	And that peak is going to come later this fall and early next year and all of the nasty stuff.
	Go ahead.
	No, I just wanted to go back and recap the elements here that constitute the demoralization and the crisis and so forth.
	I just want you to be very explicit about which elements in the development of this sequence of events qualifies as the stages you're describing.
	Right.
	Well, I mean, demoralization has taken place probably since the 1950s.
	The transfer of individual liberties and Individual responsibility, especially, uh, to, you know, the higher authorities and, uh, groups of people that, uh, claim to be more moral about how to live your life than you are.
	And so, you know, in the case of, uh, Western man, um, you know, the males in this country have been basically, um, emasculated.
	They, they are no longer able to behave in the way that men could behave, even in the 1930s and 40s.
	We didn't watch any old television shows.
	You'll see men being able to be assertive, have control of the situation, not be under the thumb of either law enforcement or some racial pressures.
	You see women not behaving in the way they used to, not being in traditional role of any kind, being more basically psychotic than they used to be.
	And so, you know, part of this and all of it leads to a demoralization.
	Um, and then when you come through the, you know, I don't want to go to every stage of this event, but of course we know that this thing started in 1913.
	We know that the perpetrators of this takedown today were the same people involved in World War I, same people involved in World War II.
	And along the way, they began to destroy civilization's pillars of rationality and reason and people's connection to reality.
	And as people began to float away from their anchor on reality, it became more and more demoralizing.
	In 1984, for example, Winston Smith was tortured by whatever his name was.
	He would hold up, I believe, four fingers and tell Smith that he had to see three.
	Or it was like, he held up three fingers and it was four.
	And this became a demoralizing event for Winston Smith because he had to know in his own mind there were only three fingers, but he had to repeat that there were four the same way that, you know, two plus two equals five.
	These are demoralizing things.
	When you begin to lose your reality, That you know is real and true, but you have armies of people stacked up against you who are reciting something that is contrary to that reality.
	That's demoralizing.
	And it becomes destabilizing.
	I think the destabilizing part of this equation is as a result of the destruction of the financial system in the United States, which has been coming for a long time, which has led to The devaluation of the dollar, and even though the Federal Reserve was very careful about what things could rise dramatically, there has been a need for two family members to go to work to pay the bills.
	Interest payments have always been high and going higher.
	Taxes rise in these property taxes, where you don't own your own home.
	People's wages have been falling and their jobs transferred out of the country.
	Another demoralizing event, also destabilizing.
	Destabilizing because with two people at work, the children are then harmed and can't be brought up in a normal, traditional, healthy family.
	With two people at work, both livelihoods are dependent, I mean, are necessary if one would lose a job or if their situation changes and it becomes stressful.
	So if you look at, say, the days when my father was buying his first home, his first nice home, he paid something like $19,000 for it.
	I sold that home after his death and, well I'm sorry, after my mom's death, he died before her, but in 2003 For close to $300,000.
	And that represents the kind of inflation we had there.
	His home was new.
	It represented the materials and labor and also the fact that it had been completely finished and occupied for a short period of time.
	It had already been on the market.
	So that was its true value.
	That's what it was worth in those days.
	That has changed so dramatically.
	And yet, The job situation hasn't followed with it.
	So anyway, I don't want to tell the whole financial history of the world again, but we have been through demoralization since the 1960s, since the rise of the immigration law changes, since the enactment of gun control laws, since the pressure to bring in this new world order required them to murder John F. Kennedy, required them to murder Bobby Kennedy, required them to murder Martin Luther King, and the list goes on and on and on.
	This was the beginning of those false flag stage events that were trauma-based, and this trauma never really let up, and in addition to that, we have the Vietnam War, which itself was trauma on television every night.
	As a kid, it scared the living crap out of me.
	The protesters probably scared me more, but putting the whole thing together, it was very psychologically tormenting, and knowing that I might fit into the window, have to go there, and And seeing what was happening to those young men fighting for zero, that was traumatizing.
	And then, of course, we get into the made-up oil crisis of the 1970s.
	This was extremely destructive for a long period of time.
	It put people in a terrible position.
	That was entirely manufactured in order to switch the currency from a gold-based backed currency that had been backed outside the United States, but the people had lost their rights in the 30s to convert dollars into gold.
	So, they went off the gold standard in the 1970s, and at that time they needed some way to boister this already long-in-the-tooth fiat currency that's basically a scam currency that steals a bit of your wealth every time you use it, every time you hold one.
	required them to switch it over to the barrel of oil and during that period of time market prices went crazy kind of like a few months ago when we saw the price of oil go below zero or a barrel of oil and it's the same exact kind of situation it is a transfer of a monetary system and we are facing a transfer of monetary system so that then will be the crisis the coronavirus is the crisis and the
	The forcing of the vaccinations will be a way in which they say to us, listen, if you just do this, it all goes away.
	And of course, it never all goes away.
	It may subside for a period of time until they bring out the next one.
	These people are psychopaths.
	They delight in harming and Terrorizing, especially terrorizing.
	They love the mockery that they produce, the mockery of everything being inverted.
	You know, when they tell you it's for your safety, they're laughing knowing it's to take your safety away.
	Even when they tell you it's for your strength, for our strength, they only mean it's for their strength.
	So these weaponized language phrases are hard for most Americans to decode.
	So these are the crises that we're in today, and these crises are being punctuated around the world.
	We see it in Australia, New Zealand, and it's coming to the United States.
	You got little, not-so-little Mr. Fat Guy over there in Maryland, Hogan, telling everybody that That they're going to now have to, well, they introduced a hotline that you can call in case people aren't social distancing.
	I can't think of anything I've ever heard of that's stupider than that.
	I don't know how you would even define for somebody on the phone that somebody's not social distancing, or maybe you tell them that, you know, somebody's having a birthday party, which happened in Melbourne, and the family had, after lockdown, had a birthday party for their One of their children and they invited their family members, damn it, and some do-gooder happened to notice that they had come to nearby Kentucky Fried Chicken and were buying large buckets of chicken or many buckets.
	This do-gooder reported them to the COVID police, whatever they are, and they followed them back to their house and arrested them.
	And I think the individual was fined $9,000.
	This is the sort of thing that we're going to see more of in the United States.
	Where did that happen, Jack?
	What city or state?
	That happened in Melbourne.
	Yeah, Melbourne seems to be kind of the trailblazer.
	Right.
	New Zealand's falling right behind them.
	They have their own little devious ways, but Melbourne is some place right now where, you know, I spent a good bit of time looking at it and I know someone on Facebook that happens to live there and, you know, it's reported to me that these things are true.
	Well, first of all, we know that they're into a lockdown and they're The governor of Victoria, his name's Dan Andrews, and his Nazi-styled, and I don't use that word lightly, I only mean A movie version of the Nazis.
	The movie version Nazi is how he's styled.
	His name is Shane Patton.
	He just took over the job, I would imagine, because the guy that just quit probably didn't want to have any part of this, but these people are serious.
	I mean, they have something like 500 Active door knockers every day.
	They've knocked, I mean, I watched the video that's a few days old, but at that time, 3,000 doors had been knocked on.
	Now remember, this is a city of 5 million, so a lot of doors there, but they had, they were tracking and trying to trace people who were supposed to be self-quarantining, and out of the 3,000 doors they knocked on, they found 800 people that weren't there self-quarantining, and all I can say is Good job to those guys.
	But the rules are now in Melbourne that you are not allowed out of your house at all except up to two hours a day for purposes of getting... And turn the houses into prison cells.
	Right, yeah.
	They're now living in a lockdown that would be, what, home prison.
	Are they going to start shooting people if they come out of their homes without wearing masks?
	They attack them if they come out of their home without masks.
	So you're allowed to come out for Up to two hours a day with no more than two people at the same time and no more than three miles away from your house.
	And those are for specific, you know, reasons.
	You're allowed to be out for food or medicine or to transport some elderly to the hospital or whatever, but you can't be out for any reasons that aren't already approved.
	And I wrote down an interesting statement that this guy, Andrews, the The governor of Victoria said, and I can't find it in this crap that I wrote all the time, but he said something similar to the fact that, you know, no more will you just be able to be out doing whatever you want to do.
	And then they go on to say things like, if you're not doing the right thing, we will not hesitate to arrest you.
	So these people have become entrapped in their homes.
	They're treated like prisoners, not people.
	They are being treated as though they never had any rights whatsoever.
	But we find out that the Melbourne Parliament had given police special powers They were able to suspend rules and law of the parliament that was already in existence and so now we have what basically is a power-mad group of non-Australian type people in charge of Melbourne.
	It's like as though they are now taken over by a foreign government and So, they're taking people on the street that aren't wearing masks.
	I saw a video of a girl standing outside of a building.
	She had a medical condition and had a card that said she can't wear a mask because of some disease she had.
	Cop came right up to her with no questions asked, grabbed her around the neck, started choking her, twisted her around, threw her on the ground.
	The female cop that was with her started kicking her.
	You know, this kind of stuff is insanity.
	But it would only be insanity if it weren't deliberate.
	I mean, like, we always assume in Western civilization that people don't, the governments don't do this.
	Maybe it's just me growing up in the period I did.
	But Americans don't have any experience with the fact that governments have always been able to turn evil on a dime.
	And you could never trust the government any further than you could monitor them.
	But we've had decades and decades and decades of non-monitoring at all, and so now we see this in Melbourne.
	We see that it was done over 52 deaths attributed to coronavirus.
	Most of those deaths, almost all of them, were elderly people over 79.
	Actually, they were over the average lifespan of the Australian.
	And at the same time, there is still question about several of them that actually died without even having symptoms of corona, but were in some sort of car wreck or whatever.
	Right, it's all manufactured, Jack.
	Practically nobody seems to have died from coronavirus.
	No, and I don't think that there actually is a coronavirus, other than it can be convenient.
	And if there is no coronavirus, all the more so.
	Right, so anyway, this is what's going on in New Zealand, and then we move over to over to New Zealand, and we find that they've gone just a little bit a different route.
	They are now locking up people in quarantine centers when they've been identified as having COVID-19.
	Now, they're getting identified as having COVID-19 because they have a mad nationwide push to get everybody swabbed, and they're also issuing QR codes to all the people that have been swabbed.
	And I watched a video and I watched the health minister and I – Can't remember his name either, but he said that they were attempting to DNA sequence all the swabs so that they could identify the people through DNA.
	Now, the interesting thing about these people, like I said, a friend of mine in Australia, I asked if she thought the people actually believed that there was a coronavirus or that they were afraid of the police or they just didn't have a clue, and she felt that most of them believe it.
	Now, The interesting thing about Australia is that the police department's upset about a group of people that are calling themselves sovereign citizens, which of course is something that they have, you know, has migrated from the United States, but it's interesting because I saw this article in the Daily Mail.
	No-nonsense cops make short work of moronic conspiracy theorists and sovereign citizen who refuses to wear a mask or show his ID at a 7-Eleven store In Melbourne, and then it goes on, a conspiracy theorist has been arrested after refusing to wear a mask in public.
	The man filmed confrontation with the police at Melbourne 7-Eleven this week, but the officers arrested him within two minutes for refusing to give his ID.
	The man's Facebook promotes messages against 5G, masks, and vaccinations.
	Sounds like an intelligent, informed guy to me, Jack.
	That's exactly what they're describing.
	And see, this comes to my fear, and I want to get to it.
	I know we have a lot of time to fill, so I'm going to tell the story.
	You have a lot of opportunity here to lay things out in detail, Jack.
	Well, we may have to take calls in the second hour.
	We take chat comments and questions, Jack, so that's not a problem.
	Maybe that'll fill it up.
	So anyway... We don't have to go a full two hours.
	It's an opportunity.
	Okay, so you see here, I still have a few more things to talk about, but you see here now, they've got them identifying the so-called sovereign citizen.
	If you remember the United States, especially during the heyday of the 90s with the militia and all that nonsense that Timmy McVeigh set up and so forth, It was, it was customary to identify people as sovereign citizens, especially by the FBI and the Southern Parliamentary Law Center and so forth.
	ADL likes to do it now.
	And then, and after you get that designation, you're in trouble.
	Now, I can't remember the guy's name, but he was a gentleman who drove around in his van with his son, teaching people how to get out of the system, basically about natural and common law and practices of being able to, you know, Get rid of your citizenship and then become some other type of citizen that was supposed to maybe let you live more closely to the Constitution.
	Anyway, that's basically all he did that I know of, but he got identified as a sovereign citizen and then pulled over in, I think it was in Tennessee, and within a few minutes the police had taken him and his son out to the side and shot and killed him.
	Later, after six months, they produced a video that they doctored that showed that he had actually, you know, Tried to do them some kind of harm, but everyone who watched it could tell that it had been doctored.
	It took them six months to make it.
	So, a sovereign citizen is a bad word because you don't want that idea to get out much.
	You don't want people to know they actually are sovereign, that according to the Constitution, that two parties to the Constitution are the people and the states, and that these, this system of government was subservient to the people that created it, and therefore the people were sovereign and the government was indentured servant, basically.
	And that was the primary thinking for some period of time, although even those people back in those days didn't understand it well enough to protect it, like Ben Franklin suggested, a republic if you can keep it.
	But most of us don't know that we're sovereign and that the government works for us, and in the case of Of a parliamentary system, it's slightly different, and maybe that's not the case.
	However, we do know in the United States that's the case, and so these people are being identified as sovereign citizens.
	That's the key word, a code word that goes out to all officers everywhere, to be able to identify anybody who stands up and says, listen, you don't have a right to ask me for my ID.
	I don't have to get out of my car.
	You can't tell me I have to wear a mask, and so forth.
	And in Australia, they're breaking the windows out of cars, people they called sovereign citizens because they refused to roll the window down and give them the ID.
	So they destroy a windshield and rip somebody out of a car and arrest them and give them up to a $5,000 fine for failing to tell them their name and address.
	So, I mean, there's nothing more police state than that, and this is probably the largest lockdown at one time without violence ever known in the history of mankind, as far as I know.
	So, in New Zealand now, they're doing mandatory quarantine at a third-party place.
	In other words, you can't self-quarantine, so you're forced then to go to a quarantine center, wherein it depends on your status, and they have all kinds of Rules about your status, but you can end up there by yourself if you're elderly or even a child with no way to be seen because during quarantine period you can't be visited.
	And of course, you don't have to have any symptoms whatsoever because if so, there wouldn't be any coronavirus at all.
	And now we see, though, the interesting thing about New Zealanders is they're not fighting back either.
	I heard that 1,433,000 of them have downloaded the state-created coronavirus tracking app
	And then they're voluntarily giving the state their swab, which means that they're collecting their DNA, which they said in the video I watched, and at the same time they're putting them in a database and then they're tracking them with the tracker application, and so I don't know how that differs at all from a board on Star Trek.
	I think that the genius of medical fascism is using an alleged threat to health As a justification for imposing a massive total surveillance police state.
	I mean, it's the psyop of making people think that they have something to fear from what appears to be all but an imaginary disease, certainly one that's no more serious than the seasonal flu, as a justification for contact tracing, social distancing, lockdowns,
	My understanding, by the way, is that they're using, you know, ID for facial recognition, but that they need two months.
	This is worldwide.
	They need two months with everyone social distancing, and that that's the principal reason that if people are in close proximity, the social, the ID of facial recognition will work.
	So in order to calibrate it, They've got to sustain this completely fraudulent scenario in order to achieve that technological objective.
	Jack, I tell you, they are taking me out periodically.
	It's really pretty damn fascinating.
	It's been well thought out and it's completely deceptive without any clue to the average person what could be happening.
	I heard that in Australia and Melbourne that the airports are really busy at night with
	Airlines coming in from China bearing boxes of measuring equipment from a company called Imejo or something similar to IMEAS, something like that, and inside those boxes are apparently equipment that can be used for for monitoring people through numerous means like they have in China for temperature, you know, for spectrums of light, for purposes of even social crediting, and so
	It looks like that the prison of Melbourne may be being set up to be turned into a Chinese-like hellhole where all of your actions are monitored totally.
	You can't walk in a door without having your temperature taken.
	Yeah, you can be refused entrance based on your temperature, and then of course if you misbehave your social credits will go down and then later you won't even be able to ride a bus.
	No, Jack, I think you're exactly right.
	This is the imposition of a Chinese-style social metric where, you know, based on your merit, your conformity to the expectations of the state, you're allowed more freedom And on the contrary, curtailed if you don't conform to the expectations of the state.
	So it's really a form of making us all into, as it were, social insects, which are all instinctual in their behavior and completely predictable, so that humans will lose the right to act in conformity with their own personal preferences and desires because they're going to be manipulated by the social
	Yeah, and it's been long term because there's a number of books for which I've read one, but I've also studied it from an amateur point of view, that the Chinese have been infiltrating both Australia and New Zealand for some time, as though
	They expect to own it in the not-so-near future.
	And you can see it in so many aspects of... Well, they're both very weak militarily.
	I mean, China would be able to dominate New Zealand and Australia overnight, Jack.
	I mean, literally overnight.
	Absolutely.
	And they won't have to do that because these people are so passive and so fluoridated And I, you know, I've been to New Zealand twice.
	I think it's the most beautiful place I could ever imagine on earth.
	The people were nice.
	I, when I was there, and the last time I was there was in 2011, it was like, I mean, the South Island, there were towns there where you thought you were in Mayberry.
	They didn't lock up the hotels at night.
	You could go in and, and get a, you know, piece of candy or some drink out of the machine, and then you're supposed to leave your coins on the counter in a jar.
	And I told those people there, I said, boy, this place would be robbed blind and gone in five seconds in the United States.
	But that's the sort of place that it is.
	And these people are, you know, they're very docile and they're very trusting.
	And apparently they buy every bit of this nonsense.
	Because what, you know, you know, back to the article I wrote for just a few seconds.
	One of the things you can see right away from looking at this thing is there's nothing about a pandemic that can be seen.
	I have a section called Show Us the Deaths, and I make reference to the movie Contagion, where there are scenes, when I put a picture in there, you know, people lying over the ground dead, and city streets a mess, and, you know, it's just awful.
	And, of course, the rates change in the movie too, so you have increasing rates and increasing deaths.
	In this situation, we have no increase in deaths.
	In fact, I just did the numbers today, and somebody can check and see if I'm correct, but I did the average number of deaths of all causes for the year 2017, 18, 19, and 20.
	And I get 54,000 deaths in 2017, average per week of all causes.
	I get 54,000 deaths in 2017, average per week of all causes.
	2018, 54,500.
	2019, 56,326.
	And so far, the first 33 weeks through August 15th of 2020, 51,252 of all deaths.
	And all this data came from either the United Nations population I think that's basically right.
	They're mapping on normal causes of death, normal patterns of death, and just adding coronavirus, which is irrelevant because it didn't contribute to the death of anyone.
	It's not increasing or decreasing the probability they're going to die.
	It's transparently fraudulent once you get a fix on the problem and how they're manipulating the data.
	I mean, it's so fraudulent that you can see how one of the crux of this article is the idea that these people that are wearing masks are basically hypnotized.
	I mean, they are, I called it transformed, two words, and I think it's a trance caused by long-term and weaponized trauma that has been induced by the military intelligence agencies and And then exported to the people through the medium in which their reality exists.
	And you know, as I recently wrote another article where I examined that idea, we live in a digital reality.
	And for the most part, I don't.
	I don't even, I mean, the only TV I watch is something that I might put an old movie in or whatever.
	But Most of Americans live in a digital reality, which I call political reality because it's not based on anything but the controlling politics, and that digital reality then, that's the place where World Trade Centers can be brought down by airplanes and kerosene burning, and that's the place where somebody can fly a jumbo jet,
	From 30,000 feet into a nosedive circle, unbelievable thing, and hit the Pentagon and not leave any wheels or leave anything on the lawn.
	And this is the kind of place where men go to the moon.
	And Trump is in charge of a space force.
	And this clown that's his vice president can talk to us about mining Elements off and purifying water from the bottom side of the moon.
	Mike Pence is talking about such?
	Yeah, I wrote an article then I put it up and you published it.
	It was quite good, but yes, he did a long sermon and he is a preacher.
	He's a Christian Zionist in that sense.
	I don't know he's really a preacher, but he preaches and he was in California at NASA's What's the university that's associated with NASA?
	Caltech.
	No, it wasn't Caltech.
	It was in Berkeley.
	It might have been Berkeley South.
	Anyway, NASA has a facility at this university and he did a long speech and I quoted most of it in that article that was important where he talked about the fact that they were planning to go to Mars soon but before that they were going to go to the moon.
	They were going to mine various metals and they were going to be able to Purify and drink water from the bottom of the moon.
	Now, I don't know what the bottom of the moon means.
	I mean, it's supposed to spin.
	I know, I know, I know.
	This guy's probably a flat earther, Jack.
	Yeah, he might be, and I can certainly talk to you about that, but we won't bring that up.
	But more interesting is that, you know, he ties in all of this spending that they're planning to do with all of these ridiculous claims about what they're going to do, And you can see that it was a fantastically coded message about this ongoing drain of American wealth through that fraud called NASA at $59 billion per day.
	And so, anyway, that's the digital world that these people live in.
	They believe all that stuff.
	You're really talking about, you know, being Victims of propaganda.
	I mean, Henry Kissinger observed long ago that truth doesn't matter, facts don't matter, all that matters is perceptions.
	And television has become the greatest instrument for conveying perceptions or fashioning beliefs.
	In fact, this new thing by Millie Weaver was showing how when you combine AI with massive surveillance, if they can communicate with you, As an individual, say by your cell phone, they can send you an individualized instruction that will induce you to behave in ways that are perfectly predictable if somebody knew you well enough so you'll participate in a riot or looting or
	Or go to a basketball game or participate in a jury pool where they can already predict the way you're going to come out.
	They explained how they set up Roger Stone's jury pool.
	So everyone from which the pool was selected was predetermined to vote guilty regardless of the evidence.
	And Jack, I'm speculating they may have done that with me as well in my Sandy Hook trial because The jurors look like a group of robotic stooges that didn't have a brain.
	I mean, it was just astounding to me.
	Just to give an illustration, this was a dozen jurors, all below the age of 30.
	One man and 11 women who said they'd never even heard of Alex Jones.
	Now, you know, that's gotta be false.
	I mean, that implies they wanted to be on the jury, but I think they wanted to be on the jury so they could convict the heretic who denies Sandy Hook.
	Of course.
	I mean, that's 100%.
	Listen, you don't put 11 women and one guy on a jury that's talking about somebody that went in and mass murdered some kids in an elementary school and expect to win.
	I mean, that's impossible.
	I don't know how your attorney wasn't able—well, that's right, it was you.
	It was me.
	Well, I did by the time that the trial for damages took place.
	I did have an attorney, but he was still, you know, getting his feet wet in relation to the case, which is— Well, you've done a masterful job on the appeal, Jack, which was just finalized like yesterday.
	I mean, the appeal is just brilliant.
	Good.
	You've heard that old saying that if you have yourself as a client, you've got to fool for an attorney.
	Sure, of course.
	Anyway, I find that always clever.
	He represents himself in court as a fool for a client, yeah.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	Thank you for clearing that up.
	If I didn't have a choice, no one would represent me, Jack.
	I was, uh... I know, you were heinous.
	I know, it's unbelievable!
	Unbelievable!
	For just exposing a hoax!
	Well, that's not the only hoax.
	But you see, it's very much like this has now been generalized for the coronavirus, Jack, because it's a hoax as well.
	Right.
	And there's such intense feelings.
	Those who believe and wear the mask are extraordinarily hostile toward anyone who's the least bit skeptical, as are you and I. And that's the point, you know, one of the primary points of my article
	Is it, it will not take a lot of time for the media and the psychological masters that are running them to turn those people against the 10 to 15 percent of us that can tell what's actually happening and who refuse to wear the mask and refuse to pretend that social distancing is anything but arbitrary nonsense and And they could easily turn this group of people against us, and in which case... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So anyone who can actually think things through becomes an enemy of the people.
	Yes, and see, this is such a... This is such genius, Jack!
	I mean, if you were able to explain what's really going on, become the despised enemies of society!
	Right.
	And, and see, but they do this on a large scale.
	It's been done historically against a few people, uh, here and there, but it was done, uh, very well, but in a much more violent way in the Soviet Union with the Bolshevik Revolution, and they, they were able to attach stigma to, uh, the intelligentsia, the people that had, um, you know, a better place and statue in life, um, people that had, um, higher educations especially, and, and
	I mean, even wearing glasses became a differentiating feature, plus Christians, and, and so they were able to turn the, the bulk of the people against that group, even though that many of them, or most of them, themselves were still part of that group in the sense of their race, but white people were identified and then mass murdered, and they were murdered to destroy the, the basic
	intellectual capacity of that particular race, and so by doing so, the IQ of the offspring from circa 1918 on, began to drop, and did so even into the time when Stalin finally dropped off the face of the earth.
	So this is just history rhyming, but it's the same people with the same motive and the same objective, and that is to select out a group of people, and see, this all works together.
	It is in lockstep, just like that drill that the Rockefellers came up with in 2010, because All these pieces snap together and make for one large marching machine, and so you can see their anger in the stores when you go in, and I go in, I don't wear a mask.
	I've been asked by managers, oh wait a second, wait a second, I gotta get us back in.
	Okay.
	Jack, this is just so insulting!
	So when When the people who are actually trying to preserve their culture and civilization are then demonized as causing the continuation of this lockdown and this horrible situation that's going to soon turn into hunger and financial collapse, the worst thing is that the American dollar is now going hyper, it's going into hyperinflation,
	If you've done any studying about hyperinflation, and I pride myself on being quite versed, years and years of looking at it, it is one of the most horrible and destructive forces known to man.
	It was Lenin who was quoted as saying that the best way to destroy a civilization is to botch its currency, and that was something that John Maynard Keynes mentioned in the 1920s, When he was talking about the fiat currency that he helped engineer.
	But anyway, this is the natural end of a debt-based currency that's designed to steal the wealth of the population slowly at first, and then quicker and quicker, until a point it comes, it goes vertical, where it's the end of their wealth.
	Meaning that the entire system, as the Austrian economists say, cracks up and booms.
	And in the course of this situation right now, we see BlackRock in conjunction with Federal Reserve, both two Zionist-based private banking cartels, and BlackRock, an asset management firm that is the largest by-dollar firm on planet Earth, bigger than most governments, and now is larger in total assets under control than the United States GDP.
	So, we see that we have now been taken over by corporations.
	These are, you know, non-voted for, private, for-profit, and I would say mostly manned by what Robert Harewood called snakes in suits, which are psychopaths, And these people don't give a rat's behind about how many people they're going to cause to die.
	The worst part of it is these people are presented as good guys.
	They're just, you know, stewards.
	These people in Australia are presenting themselves as having to be Hard-handed, you know, to keep an eye on the herd and make sure nobody gets hurt.
	52 people, they claim, died of that disease and in all of Australia, 108, but everyone in Melbourne is in prison and everyone in New Zealand is now walking into their own prison because you'll get tested for COVID.
	It's 80% false positive, meaning it doesn't tell the truth 20% of the time and No, 8% of the time false positive.
	It tells the truth 20% of the time.
	Only, yeah.
	So these people are walking into a trap.
	So they're going to get identified.
	Jack, a point I've been making is there's this ambiguity about the idea of cases because if you had a cold you can have antibodies that would be tested by this test as indicating you had coronavirus.
	And persons who are asymptomatic anyway aren't contagious Either.
	So, I mean, they're getting it multiple ways.
	This is why Hillary was saying, we need more testing, more testing.
	She knew she was driving a vicious cycle of false, you know, generation of false data so that they could object to anyone who was resistant to the whole program as being anti-scientific.
	I mean, it's very clever the way this was Organized.
	And by the way, I have a question from the chat room.
	I'm not 100% sure I appreciate it or understand it.
	How do you have hyperinflation without velocity?
	Does that make sense?
	Yes, it does.
	That's a good question.
	Okay, so right now, our velocity is lower because the people are in lockdown.
	There's no question about that.
	But at the same time, BlackRock And the Federal Reserve, through conjuring up of new monies, are spending trillions and trillions per month, both ostensibly and behind the scenes with magic money.
	This is necessary because in the final days of a fiat currency system based on interest, it becomes Exponential, the amount of interest payments that have to be paid.
	So, in order to keep this system alive, it has to have injection of enormous amounts of money every day.
	Maybe that was the entire reason behind the black pool of money that Catherine Arthur Fitz has described in a lot of her work, the 21 trillion that they said, or maybe even more.
	In fact, Can you elaborate on that?
	What is this as much as 50 trillion whatever?
	Tell us about it.
	that it may be as high as 50 trillion.
	Anyway, this system can't survive.
	Can you elaborate on that?
	What is this as much as 50 trillion, whatever?
	Tell us about it.
	What are we talking about?
	Okay, there was a black, I'm not saying the name exactly right, so I apologize, but it was- Black Eagle Trust?
	No, no, no, it was a pool of money, but it was called a dark, dark pool, I think it was a dark pool, but anyway, Catherine Austen Fitz and a professor from maybe Yale, but anyway, somebody from a prestigious university, had been analyzing the books of the United States over a period of time and had decided that at least $21 trillion had been taken or became missing from the federal.
	And you remember there was an audit, I think, in 19, I'm sorry, in 2018, maybe, 2015.
	Anyway, there was an audit that came.
	That was a nice chunk of change you're talking about there, Jack.
	Yeah, and that dark pool is believed to now be necessary in order to maintain this fiat currency through its final days.
	But that whoever wrote that question is correct.
	I mean the velocity of money is has been deliberately part of this.
	So that's what I mean about it all being lockstep.
	It was necessary to take the the consumer out of the equation.
	It was necessary to shut down small businesses in order for the velocity of money to be quenched a bit.
	So so much money wasn't changing hands because With all that money in the system, plus all the new money that's being generated, it would hyperinflate much faster.
	I mean, because when the time comes that you notice hyperinflation, now you can see right now, since February, protein prices are up over 20%, maybe 22%.
	And things like chickens and their eggs and stuff are a little less, 12%, but say beef and pork in the 20s, that's inflation.
	We had this situation where they brought the price of fuel down for a while, which was deflationary.
	So, we are in the final stages of the fiat currency system, and we will see exponentially rising interest rates and an impossibility to pay it, which becomes the crack-up boom.
	And so that's a bad thing to add to this misery of being out of food.
	But Jack, Isn't there something about that, you know, indebtedness that is just a fantasy that could be just wiped off the map that we could just declare null and void?
	I mean, we're talking about, you know, the national debt, which is really the interest we're paying on the interest we're paying for having the currency of the United States.
	Printed by the Fed, which Jack thought was absurd that, you know, the Department of the Treasury couldn't print the currency of the United States for no interest at all.
	I mean, what a stupid thing to do.
	Just wipe it clean.
	Could we not just declare it null and void?
	Of course.
	And it's not just the debt of the Federal Reserve or the borrowing against the Federal Reserve, but I mean, cities and counties and states, they're all bankrupt.
	They've spent far and away more than they have monies to cover.
	State pension funds are finished.
	The state of Illinois has one of the worst pension funds in the world.
	There's no possible way it could ever be solved.
	I think it's $120 billion in a hole, whatever.
	California, the same situation.
	And then you have household debt, which has gone through the roof.
	I used to know those numbers off the top of my head, but, you know, the average household is heavily in debt.
	And so all these debts are what I mean by exploding debt.
	All of it has to have interest payments.
	And everybody has to have money coming in.
	So we have to... I got two questions here for you.
	One is, to whom is the debt owed?
	But that interest on the printing of the currency is owed to the Fed.
	Right, which is a consortium of private banks that is mistakenly assumed to be a government agency when it's not a government agency.
	The other question is, where do blockchain and cryptocurrency fit in?
	Good question, because I'm going to bring that up later in the second hour.
	All right, so this is one of my favorite subjects, but blockchain is a beautiful thing.
	Okay, so a lot of people try to paint it, especially in the alternative media, in certain groups, not all of it, but there are people that And I would say, especially in the Christian Zionist alternative media, they like to paint it as something evil that was created to do harm to us, which I'll get to in a minute.
	But in the meantime, the idea of the blockchain is a wonderful idea.
	It is an internally consistent, self-checking, and impossible-to-falsify system of internal record-keeping so that You can have a consistent record of transactions against an account that cannot mathematically be modified such that you can't detect it.
	So in a nutshell, you know, it's a system that brings integrity, brings honesty, and discharges the entire middleman system for Any reasonable requirement to do handheld accounting?
	Now, I'll get to the question that they probably want to be answered.
	How do they fit in?
	Well, they fit in because they represent a revolution in change, because it's not only known by the Federal Reserve, who's running a racket, that their fiat scam currency will come to an end, and it's sometime sooner or later, and now we've come to the later, and it's here.
	And so they were also interested in cryptocurrency, but these other breakout technologies that are involved with cryptocurrencies are immensely liberating for humanity.
	Now if you want me to not talk about this part and discuss the Whether you should be investing in cryptocurrencies or not.
	Of course, I'm going to say, disclaim, I am not a financial advisor.
	My ideas are my opinion.
	And I'm offering them as a response to a question.
	But yes, you should be.
	I am investing in cryptocurrency.
	Now, people say, well, yeah, but, you know, what if the Internet goes down?
	Well, the Internet is going to be one of the last things that goes down.
	And if you know how cryptocurrencies work, They have nodes all over the planet.
	They're self-replicating.
	So you could have the power system go out in North America for, you know, a decade.
	And as long as the power system stayed up in Asia and all the other places, and assuming that people were doing their transactions through the systems that were up, They would come back to life and your transactions would still be there alive and well.
	So yes, it's possible you take nuclear weapons and bomb the whole power systems around the world and then let's say it's down for more than a year, maybe you lose everything and that's that.
	However, if you discount that, Bitcoin is a great investment.
	It has repeatedly shown itself to be cyclic because the federal government through its buying agents in the Federal Reserve JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and the other criminal banks, they are able to manipulate the price of Bitcoin very easily by simply buying it in large quantities and then dumping it back on the market and selling it so they can create booms and busts.
	But there's an underlying issue here, and there was in 2008, and basically Bitcoin runs on about a four-year cycle.
	And so it goes back down, but then it goes to higher highs and higher highs.
	My guess is that we'll see Bitcoin be over $100,000 sometime early next spring.
	And that's only a 10-time factor right now.
	But other cryptocurrencies as well will travel along with it.
	I mean, I like Litecoin.
	I'm a little disappointed in it.
	But there are actually literally 800 others that have life, and most of them no one's ever heard of, but they're all doing something somewhere.
	And they all represent new technologies, new technologies that eliminate all the graft in middleman.
	I mean, the middleman system is a parasite, and especially in banking, and hand-holding of money, and accounting it, and SWIFT systems, and ATM charges, and bank fees, and bank employees you don't need to pay, and the list goes on and on and on and on.
	So these are liberating, and they produce freedom, because from taxation and financial slavery, Which is what the entire system is based on now as far as wealth generating for the parasitic elite.
	It's based on a system of financial slavery wherein they do nothing at all and you do everything every day and it gets harder and harder to do and you have to pay more and more and more and it seems like people will put up with it and put up with it as long as they get enough time to go to a ballgame and drink a few beers.
	So, yes, I think cryptocurrencies are- Hey, we got another interference, Jack.
	Just fascinating how this is taking place.
	I trust you to rewire us in.
	Yeah, I'm gonna do my best, but it looks like they're cutting me out, too.
	Fascinating, Jack.
	Let me see what I see on YouTube.
	It's you, but I'm there in a small image, so just go ahead, Jack, go ahead, go ahead.
	I do have a couple more questions for you, by the way.
	Okay, well, you want to hit me with them?
	Go ahead.
	What currency will take the place of the U.S.
	dollar as a reserve currency if hyperinflation occurs?
	Well, the Federal Reserve announced a few days ago, maybe as much as a week, That they were experimenting with a cryptocurrency.
	Of course, there has been talk of a federal cryptocurrency for some time.
	I don't know.
	Maybe they called it the Fed.
	It was something I heard about several years ago.
	But anyway, they came out or, you know, they announced in their publications that they were experimenting with a cryptocurrency.
	There's no question at all that they are experimenting with a digital currency.
	Whether or not it's crypto or not remains to be seen.
	Oh, I'm saying there's no audio, Jack.
	This is really stunning how they are messing here, Jack.
	Really stunning.
	No audio and only see you.
	Well, I'm there, but they're not seeing me because they have messed with my camera.
	I can see you on YouTube and I can see you in a little picture in the top.
	Yeah, but the sound is only coming through me and you can't hear it.
	Yeah, no sound.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	So they can't hear either of us?
	Right.
	I see.
	All right, I can't.
	I was gonna say I could try to mess with my mic mute, etc., but it appears that I'm generating sound.
	Very, very clever.
	They're messing, messing, messing.
	Actually, of course I'm generating sound.
	You hear And I hear you, so it's your connection out.
	Maybe just go back and we start a whole new YouTube.
	You mean a whole new... No, the YouTube is fine, Jack.
	It's not the YouTube, it's the... Connection to it.
	It's the Restream.
	Restream, okay.
	Yeah.
	But if you shut it off and come back to Restream, it'll close out that YouTube.
	No, Jack.
	No, Jack.
	YouTube is completely separate.
	I'm recording you on YouTube.
	I mean, on Zoom.
	Yeah, YouTube.
	Yes.
	And it's wiped out now.
	All the comments, too.
	So this is pretty nasty.
	That's what I meant.
	Yeah, you're right.
	So we may have to start.
	Somebody will have to start a new one, however it gets restarted.
	Maybe as soon as... Oh, wait a minute.
	Here's something.
	Here's something.
	Wow, they are so clever, Jack, in fucking us over.
	Ah, there I am.
	There you are.
	Okay, here we go.
	Back, back, back.
	Unbelievable, Jack.
	Unbelievable.
	Go ahead now, Jack.
	Okay, what was I answering?
	Something about... Oh, a question!
	Well, there are a couple of questions now.
	I was talking about the Federal Reserve introducing a cryptocurrency.
	I'll finish that real quick.
	They'll definitely introduce a digital currency and maybe present it as a cryptocurrency, but the thing about a cryptocurrency is that you can't counterfeit it.
	So the thing about Bitcoin is that it becomes deflationary as it gets older, because the longer it's in existence, there's only 21 million coins, if you imagine that there are such a thing as a coin, because it's all an object you hold in imagination.
	There's only 21 million issued, and as a result of that, It can't be counterfeited.
	You can't make any more.
	It's not physically possible.
	It would be outside of its algorithm.
	And second of all, through people losing their private keys, you know, each remaining Bitcoin becomes more valuable.
	So the problem with cryptocurrencies for a government is that they would have to be stuck with being honest, or at least they couldn't inflate the system or manage the money supply in the same way they do now.
	So I would bet that they're Jack, here are the two questions I posed, and I think you've at least partially answered one or the other.
	Nobody uses cash anymore anyway with a cryptocurrency.
	But to make it sound nice, they're talking about introducing a cryptocurrency.
	But that will be the next currency, a form of digital currency, whatever they name it.
	Jack, here are the two questions I posed, and I think you at least partially answered one or the other.
	Do you see a problem if I can't pay my taxes in cryptocurrency?
	And what currency will take the place of the U.S. dollar?
	dollar as a reserve currency if there's hyperinflation?
	That was the question you were answering.
	Right.
	Well, I think the idea of a reserve currency will go away.
	I mean, that was more of a 20th century idea.
	And it was necessary to make the United States worldwide dominating power.
	It was necessary in order to use gunboat diplomacy in every nation that forced them to actually use dollars to buy oil.
	In which case, the United States could print unlimited money and lengthen the amount of time that the dollar existed because all of its inflation got sent overseas.
	And countries like China participated in that by maintaining large reserves of the dollars held back.
	So they became an absorber of dollars, thus decreasing the amount in circulation.
	And so I don't think that the reserve currency will be necessary anymore.
	That part of this game is over.
	And then what was the next question?
	Oh, well, about paying my taxes.
	The question didn't seem formed properly for me to understand it, but I will say that, you know, I don't know how you can pay U.S.
	taxes in cryptocurrency, at least not now.
	Yeah, that was the issue, I think.
	If you have cryptocurrency, but you can't use it to pay your taxes, that seems to be a significant... You have to convert it in an exchange.
	Oh, he's suggesting, here's a suggestion, that that was a facetious question.
	Okay.
	I get it now.
	That's why I couldn't make sense of it.
	Okay, so if there's not any more questions, then... No, you go right ahead.
	Go right ahead.
	We'll go back to this idea that these zombies can be turned into war machines and come and harm people who You know, actually know what's going on.
	I'm reminded of those women back in, what was the year of the Charlottesville debacle?
	2017, I think.
	Yeah, 2017 or whatever.
	It was approximately in that period of time when George Soros was funding these little groups.
	Moms Against Everything, I forget the name, but they were out wearing their red shirts, which was carefully chosen, and they all had, you know, signs on their chest saying something about disarm and collecting.
	And it's interesting that these women, they're pursuing an irrational cause, which, if it were to reach its final form, would do exactly the opposite of the mantra and slogans that they were wearing.
	And it's because these people I mean, cannot understand what it is that they are attempting to promote.
	I mean, they're weak-minded and perhaps because of the culture we're in and the fact that a lot of these people in the gun control movement are women, you know, they've already been harmed by the system.
	They can't make sense of what's going on and what they will promote and support Well, they understand if you take weapons away from law-abiding citizens and, you know, only criminals have guns.
	I mean, the NRA said it a long time ago, when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
	I mean, this is so elementary, Jack.
	I can't believe anyone's such a mental munchkin.
	They can't absorb the lesson.
	I don't know, but I know there's a lot more of them than us, and that can make for some sort of problem for our side.
	So anyway, that's the case of these zombies, and I'm thinking of them as the mask zombie force, and I'm concerned about what they'll do when the hunger starts.
	And then I wanted to get back to the idea that this thing is a drill.
	I mean, so one of the One of the most important things to understand, but I guess we're swept under the rug in this thing, is people start talking about the coronavirus and about possibly, you know, a new cure and the drug that Donald Trump's always pushing.
	Chloroquine.
	Yeah, chloroquine.
	The solution, etc.
	And I'm gonna have to go with the Health Minister of Bulgaria, and he claimed that there is no such thing as a coronavirus and that no one has died from a coronavirus.
	Yes, rather startling, like asserting nobody died in Sandy Hook, only on a much more vast scale.
	Exactly.
	And his reasoning is that, you know, you can't isolate or create a gold standard, you know, that identifies it.
	He called the World Health Organization a criminal... Yes, he did.
	And for creating fear and chaos.
	And he believes it's currently impossible to create a vaccine against the virus because there's no virus.
	He also said that European pathologists haven't been able to identify any antibodies that are specific for SARS-CoV-2.
	So, I have to go along with that.
	The evidence is clear that that's the case.
	We've heard it from Scott Jensen over in... Yes, Minnesota State Senator.
	Minnesota State Senator who told us that they were faking the data.
	So I hate for people to get lost into going back in and talking about possible cures and things like that when they overlook the fact that it has already been told to us straight up that it's a worldwide drill.
	And that was on March 20, 2020, when Mike Pompeo let slip a critical comment Which if you analyze it carefully, you analyze this comment carefully in the light of the fact that the Rockefellers created a report in 2010 called Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development Of which a subsection was called Lockstep.
	And then following that publication of Lockstep, which we can talk about if you want, but right now we're moving forward into October 2019, we get Event 201, which was a tabletop exercise simulating an almost exact scenario that we saw unfold beginning in Wuhan, only they had it begin in Brazil.
	And then we come to Pump Pompeo's comment, and his comments is like this.
	Now, remember in this, you got to put it all together, but Trump is standing right beside Pompeo.
	Pompeo makes this comment, and then Trump said they should have told us.
	Right.
	Okay, so what was said was the Chinese government was the first to know this risk to the world, and that puts a special obligation to make sure that the data, the data gets to our scientists and professionals, makes a special obligation And if you consider this a drill, and this is what we're going to get to, he says this is not about retribution.
	This matter is going forward.
	We're in a live exercise here.
	So I read that as he's scolding the Chinese a bit because they had a special obligation to make sure the data got to our scientists and our professionals.
	Then he says, to get this right, we need to make sure that even today, the data sets that are available to every country, including data sets that are available to the Chinese Communist Party, are made available to the world.
	It's an imperative to keep people safe.
	We talk about the absence of data sets, not being able to make judgments about what to do.
	Okay, so if you then go in and look at the lockstep report that came out in 2010, It envisions a future where a pandemic would allow national leaders to flex their authority and impose airtight rules and restrictions that would remain long after the pandemic faded.
	This is from the report.
	So, I believe that Pompeo told us, straight up, accidentally, that this was a lie drill that China maybe didn't play their part at the beginning.
	Trump, in the background, says they should have told us.
	Yes.
	I remember that very clearly, Jack.
	So, if you don't keep that in mind, it's easy to go back into the idea that we're actually involved with something you could call the coronavirus, which is clearly the common cold, common flu, common respiratory diseases.
	It was found out that in the year 2014, the CDC changed the definition, by the way, of influenza.
	They changed it from influenza Which is its traditional definition, which just means under the influence of something, to influenza diseases.
	A subtle change, but very important, because then they were able to combine the deaths from pneumonia.
	And so an influenza disease is now anything that they call influenza disease that includes... Yes.
	Now they're calling it coronavirus.
	Exactly, and so what they were able to do in 2014 was they were able to boost the numbers of people that are dying of influenza disease, and therefore they could then say that we were in pandemics in order to generate more vaccines and push those vaccines on the people, which is a horrible, terroristic, you know, weaponized attack on the elderly and people in nursing homes and children.
	Whom Henry Kissinger referred as useless eaters.
	Exactly.
	But you wonder how much the Kissinger agenda is driving all of this.
	Well, I definitely believe that it's driving, I mean, that Kissinger was definitely in at the driver's seat location at the main table when they were putting the ideas together.
	Ted Turner's talked about the desirability of eliminating 95% of the world's population.
	Exactly.
	95% Jack!
	I know, and so, you know, if you remember back in the 1960s, let's see, I got it here, it was I think 1969, yeah, 1969, a gentleman, a physician, I don't know if he's a physician, I think he was, but he was a Rockefeller insider, Dr. Richard Day, gave a speech to the Pittsburgh Division of the American Medical Association where he predicted Travel would become very restrictive.
	People would need to get permission to travel, and they would need a good reason to travel.
	If you didn't have a good reason for travel, you would not be allowed to travel, and everyone would need an ID.
	Later on, some sort of device would be developed to be implanted under the skin that would be coded specifically to identify the individual.
	Why should there be restrictions on freedom to travel, Jack?
	I mean, this is just absurd.
	It's one more control mechanism to reduce life, the parameters within which we're allowed to live.
	Exactly.
	If you were interested in downsizing population, one of the first things you would do is take away the reasons that people live.
	And a lot of the people kill themselves.
	And right now we're seeing, I just read the statistics from the National Suicide.
	They're climbing dramatically.
	Yeah, they're driving.
	And we're not even beginning, we haven't even begun.
	Yeah, I know.
	They're going to be a huge, more deaths from suicide than from the alleged coronavirus.
	Right.
	And this guy, Dr. Day, told these people that in 1969, where he told them up front, put all your pieces of paper on the floor.
	We got faked out again.
	This is just embarrassingly bad.
	Well, remember, we got this Zoom that you can put up nice and doctored.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	We're good with a zoom.
	What we don't have is my camera.
	Without my camera, they can't hear, see, so that's the catch.
	I see.
	But your camera's on because I'm looking at you, so it's not going the other way.
	I can't see it.
	I don't think they can hear me.
	No, I see that, but I can see you and hear you fine.
	I'm just saying it's going... Well, you can see me and hear me fine through Zoom, see.
	We're connected through Zoom.
	You're not seeing me through Restream.
	I agree.
	What I meant was your mic wasn't out.
	Like, I mean, your video wasn't out.
	I could prove that.
	I'm trying to get to get my camera connected, but Jack, it's just unbelievable what's going on here.
	I'm sure it's a compliment to our conversation.
	But, I mean, what a pain in the ass.
	I'm thinking that it's a negative comment on Restream.
	Well, I think the bad guys have got into my system, Jack.
	I think that's what it is.
	Remind me to look at that when I can go in and look at your router.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
	We may simply have to persevere, Jack, and just do it as the Zoom, and then we'll put it up.
	Right.
	Somebody just said, say something.
	Can anybody hear me?
	No, they can't hear you.
	No.
	But I can hear you.
	So I'm going to tell them... Jack's back.
	See, you're back, but I'm not back.
	Can you hear me?
	I don't think so.
	But if they could, I could talk while you fiddle out your end.
	Right.
	Yeah, now there's no audio. - Go.
	Okay, well, I don't remember where we were, but we have to keep going.
	Well, you were making some extremely interesting comments.
	Well, that was good, but which ones?
	Oh, I was talking about the fact that it is actually a drill and that they had already organized this long ago.
	You know, we see it in 2010, but before that, back in 2000 and I think it was 2001, there was a simulation, another simulation done that was also involving the Johns Hopkins University and the U.S.
	military that simulated a bioweapons attack and an outbreak of deadly smallpox in the United States.
	And this simulation, I believe it was 2001, It was called Dark Winter.
	Now we hear today that it was a former director of, let's see if I can find his name here.
	I'll tell you, Jack, the audience is very appreciative of everything you've been saying.
	They were following you exactly and they're very pissed off by the interference.
	Well, I'm sorry about that, too, and I would love to still be on live.
	But anyway, so it was Dr. Bright, the former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority under the Trump administration, which are, by the way, developing a vaccine, who said, while it's terrifying to acknowledge the extent of the challenge that we are currently confronting, the undeniable fact is that there will be a resurgence of COVID-19 this fall, greatly compounding the challenges of seasonal influenza and putting an unprecedented strain on our health system.
	Without clear planning and implementation of the steps that I and other experts have outlined, 2020 will be the darkest winter in modern history.
	Now, in going back to the year 2001, the military with Johns Hopkins, similar to Event 201, creates an Operation Dark Winter, which is a simulation of a smallpox attack That spread by human contact, of course, which I now don't believe possible.
	And a fallout from the coronavirus pandemic bears a resemblance to this simulation.
	Leaders are hampered by the inability to address a crisis they hadn't foreseen, national decision-making driven by data and expertise from the medical and public health sectors, management options limited by the swift and unpredictable spread of disease, and blah blah blah blah blah, and then they're going to have to manufacture vaccines because they only have a limited stockpile Etc.
	So, all of this crap, all of these simulations, all of this nonsense, comes back to the same final resting spot, and that is vaccinations.
	Vaccinations are a scourge of humanity.
	It's an attack on your temple.
	It's a way inside your body.
	It's a deadly, unseen, and unknowable enemy that can be disguised as anything they like, and then delivered to you with no ideas at all, which you actually got.
	And I think this is something that should be outlawed in humanity.
	It should be morally repugnant from here on out.
	It has been so in the past numerous times.
	It had been completely done away with in Western civilization in the early 1900s after the disasters harmed so many people.
	But they forget that.
	People forget it because the corporate criminals gather around and remember that in a generation or two, no one will remember any of that.
	They erase the history, they carefully go through and remove references from medical journals, etc.
	And once again, they trot out the same dead horse.
	And I really believe that the bottom line on all this for all of us is that we must be able to stand up against these vaccines.
	And I see the day where Gates said something similar to, well, if I could at least get 30 to 40 percent of Americans Vaccinated, we might be able to slow this thing down, and I just have to believe that because most people are still wearing masks, but many, many people, as many as 30 percent of the population, have already said they're not taking the vaccine, and so I think that that's something that I would call positive.
	You know, I always give any negative information here.
	And maybe it's when the vaccines come out that mankind makes its final stand.
	And maybe mankind wins.
	I mean, I know that you get a bunch of Americans together with the right ideas and similar thinking.
	They can do anything.
	They always have.
	They've always been the best and the greatest of anything they tried to do.
	It's only when they had a group of people that deliberately and historically undermine civilizations Where they then put us under and so that's my hope is that when the time comes that when the vaccines come out people will finally stand up and say no you're not vaccinating me.
	Now whether they get away with the thing of well you can't travel and you can't go to ballgames and you're not going to be able to go to your workplace because if you would watch some of Max Egan's wonderful videos that he's had out since Australia has gone down under
	It's interesting the stuff that he's learned about the future plans of these planners, and that includes rebuilding civilization from an architectural point of view, where buildings are reconstructed so that people can socially distance.
	All entrances are voice and camera controlled with temperature monitoring devices so that, you know, if they decide that, A, you're Social credits aren't good, or your temperature's up, etc.
	You won't be allowed entry.
	You'll have to go in wearing your mask at all times.
	And then you may sit in your social bubble, as they're calling it in Australia.
	And in your social bubble, your work bubbles, you may sit probably without a vaccine.
	This is going to be the way they envision people living their entire lives.
	And that's just not something for me.
	I'm not signing up for that.
	I wasn't born that way, to live that way, and neither were you, and neither was anyone else.
	All of us were born to have a chance to live our own lives as a means to our own ends.
	And not somebody else's ends in any shape or form.
	Certainly not somebody following us around with a tracking app.
	Somebody listening to every single phone call.
	Somebody building all private technology so that it is a spying app.
	They just live and let live, Jack, for F's sake!
	I mean, let us be human beings!
	This is so monstrous!
	This is so awful!
	Right.
	So all we can imagine is, as above so below, you know, perhaps that on the other side of this world that we leave at the end, they get points for having subverted the most souls.
	I don't know.
	But I know that they're going to create a real mushroom cloud of sad and demoralized human beings that are not going to know what to do with a life where it's constantly policed.
	Now, I know in a generation or two, People like you and I will be gone and therefore it won't be as bad for the youngsters because they won't know what they lost but I mean this is a hideous thing that we have an obligation to the children that are under us because you know we're not going to get any younger.
	We don't get a chance to live forever but we do have a little bit of life left in us and this life is all we have now to put forward to solve this problem and make some sort of changes so that the people coming up will have a life.
	We were always charged with the responsibility of taking care of the children.
	And, you know, I mean, part of this entire civilization is so decrepit and debauched.
	I mean, with the pedophilia and the child abuse and all of these things that are now being slightly exposed, the liability for everybody that's in charge is tremendous.
	We have a football game.
	Well, we're right down on the goal line, and the score is, you know, seven up.
	And to win, you have to make the move now, and you have to put everything you have into it, because there's no way back.
	It's win or lose.
	And when you lose, for these people, they're all going to jail.
	They're all going to the execution chamber.
	They're all going to follow the way of the horrible things they did to those Germans at the end of the war with that kangaroo trial.
	And only this time, they're going to get a real trial.
	And my only hope is that they hang most of them on bridges, you know, they in tribute to Mussolini.
	So anyway, that's... The public can appreciate the administration of justice to those most deserving of the ultimate penalty.
	Exactly.
	And you know, I've had friends of mine that believe that these people need to be, you know, harmed in ways that are more like torture.
	And of course, that would be us, them.
	I want nobody tortured, but I certainly would like to see people expedited to the next world.
	And, uh, in large numbers.
	So you can see the liability is so high.
	I mean, Bill Gates is, his liability for harms against humanity are astronomical.
	I mean, I'm sure he has to have, you know, five layers of walls around his house every night worried that somebody's going to finally figure it out and come after him.
	Whether it's the people in India, the people in Africa, the people in Brazil, wherever, over the world that he's deliberately harming children in some sort of madman experiment to see what can be done with vaccines.
	You know, if they could actually kill us all with some form of a contagion, they would have.
	And we're not dying at all from this contagion, so what I wanted to say in the last 20 minutes we have here is the real thing that there's going to be the most hard thing for people to get their head around coming up is the fact that they are actually going to figure out a way to make us appear to die from a contagion, and that's going to be through the application of the electromagnetic frequencies that are being used in the 5G program.
	Yes Jack, you've got to expand on this relation between 5G and CV and the whole bit because many of us suspect 5G is the real culprit and the CV is just a fabrication as you've been explaining here repeatedly.
	Well, I believe that 5G has not been the primary culprit.
	Maybe to some extent, maybe in New York City, for example.
	And by the way, the death rates that they are exaggerating there and whatever they've done to the people in the old folks' home, the odds of it being from coronavirus have been predicted by a mathematician to be one in 500 million, million, billion.
	And so we know that that's not coronavirus, but it could be some other killer.
	And 5G is definitely a technology That could be used to harm because a lot of the frequencies that are involved are used now as weapons, and the military uses them as for crowd displacement and so forth now, but they're actually very, very painful and deadly weapons.
	A lot is known, has been known for many, many decades.
	Electromagnetic damage and harm has been known You know, since the 1700s.
	Ben Franklin talked about the fact that he had pains and stuff in his arms that were later believed by people only a generation later to have been a result of the fact that he had so much exposure to electricity.
	Obviously, he was considered one of the inventors of electricity, but electricity is very sensitive to a certain percentage of the people, say maybe as many as 15 percent or somewhat And 5% of them are terribly damaged by exposure, and those are the ones, you know, that people think are crazy, and they try to wear tinfoil hats and whatever, but they are actually experiencing pain, and this is not new.
	This goes back into history.
	There's a book called The Invisible Rainbow, and that book chronicles the history of electromagnetic energy all the way back to its beginnings in the 1700s, and it shows the mountains of material that were developed, especially in the 1800s, by very competent physicians and other scientists that demonstrated and documented the effects of electricity on people and how they could be used to benefit but harm.
	And, of course, all that information got stolen and taken away from us In the 1900s, because of purposes of wanting to build a technological civilization.
	But the interesting thing about 5G is that it has to operate with large power densities because The frequencies are so high that anything gets in the way of it.
	Many of the frequencies, biology gets in the way of it.
	It won't transmit through a human body.
	What happens though is it gets absorbed by the human body and produces heat inside, internally.
	Now at some frequencies, like 60 gigahertz, it excites the electrons that are associated with oxygen and an oxygen molecule can be disrupted, meaning that it can be disconnected from the, because oxygen molecule has two oxygen atoms, and they can be separated.
	So what happens is, in the lungs, a person being subjected to 60 gigahertz, and this has been shown back in the 1970s, that there's a disruptive effect on oxygen, which then harms the absorption properties of oxygen and ATP can't make energy and you believe that you're running out of air because you can't actually get enough air and so this would be a symptom of 5G technology being disruptive.
	Now in order to get 5G to work with those kinds of frequencies they have to put a tower, what they're now saying, on every city block.
	I don't know what the length of a block is but you know it's maybe 600 meters or something like that and I don't use meters but that's the number I've seen read.
	So they put these towers everywhere, they are variably controllable, meaning that their power output can be controlled, so therefore that's controllable for purposes of punishment for maybe somebody that happens to enter a field because this is a big story.
	So let's imagine that you have been injected with something that has nanoparticles in them such that that nanoparticle becomes Electro-sensitive.
	Electro-sensitive in the body, and as a result of that, you can be individually identified.
	They can electrocute you.
	Exactly.
	So, in the meantime, they can also identify you precisely, meaning because every body will react to it in the way you have a fingerprint, and so forth, it will become somewhat unique.
	So, you can be then seen wherever you are, and then of course, if you've been a bad boy, they can turn off the power.
	So that's one effective use of 5G outside of their concerns for us having faster videos on our cell phone.
	I mean, even that explanation is totally preposterous.
	Yes.
	And it makes a mockery of a person who can think.
	So with that comes the new information.
	There's two pieces of new information.
	One is that on PubMed, which is a medical publication, journal, Where things that are published in the medical world are aggregated there as in collections under different titles depending on what they're about.
	There have been as many as 20 publications in the last six months or so that have to do with the fact that it's been discovered that 5G technology, depending on what frequency happens to be in operation, because see these things are frequency agile and they can jump from three gig to up to 300 gig with an enormous range of frequencies, and you go through a broad range of potentially damaging frequencies to biological life.
	In fact, I don't know if this is true or not, but I follow Richie from Boston.
	I just love the guy.
	But he was saying that he had been doing programs on 5G and he got calls from, or he got contacted, not necessarily calls, from two people independently that were installers of 5G, and they were in the Midwest installing, which is his experience in a heavy barrage of installation, because I've seen the photos of the Of the army of 5G trucks out there.
	They got, he got calls saying that these people wanting to be anonymous saying, I will go on your show, but I have to be disguised, but I'll tell you when we turned on these transmitters, even at 20%, it killed all the birds around the tower.
	So, you know, take that for what it's worth.
	Richie claimed that he was going to get those people to verify their position and do some sort of due diligence and then get confirmation on that.
	But we've heard that story before.
	We've heard that there's mass die outs of birds.
	I believe that it was one country in Europe, maybe Norway.
	We know for sure Switzerland has shut down 5G until they can further investigate it because of the damage it did to birds.
	So anyway, these papers on PubMed, which I happen to have one on a site that I will, I put in my last article about vaccines on the blog.thegovernmentrag.com also and on jamesfessor.org, I put a link to one of them on a 5G site I have that describes the effect of certain 5G frequencies on
	on your cells, and because of the fact that there's new medical information that viruses don't exist in the form we've been told, but in fact the material that they call a virus is actually the symptom, not the cause, and that bodies remove toxins from their cells using a process of creating something called an exosome.
	An exosome is a genetic bit of code that has transmissionable Characteristics, in other words, it can communicate with other cells around it.
	That communication is a way in which cells make necessary changes in order to rid yourself of a toxin.
	The idea being then that a flu is a yearly cleanse of toxins, especially for people that don't particularly detox themselves on a regular basis.
	The body does it in the fall and has done it historically forever, and that's why we have a flu season.
	But anyway, these people found out that there were exosomes produced in cells, and they called them exosomes, That resemble coronavirus.
	So what does that mean?
	Well, that means that you turn on coronavirus in your cells.
	It also means that you've damaged the cell.
	Because they produce exosomes in response to cellular damage and require repair.
	So, if you would imagine that these articles were put up, they were written by reputable physicians, people with PhDs and MDs, and they were taken down within a day, all of them.
	I happened to save one copy of one particular paper that made that assertion that they produced those exosomes.
	So, there's a reason why they're pulling these things down.
	The reason could be this.
	When they turn on this 5G full blast, which they're busting their butts to do, And they're spending all of our wealth to do it, then telling us it's for our own good and we're going to really like downloading fast movies.
	A certain percentage of the population is going to get sick and die right away.
	Maybe that's 5%, maybe that's higher.
	And then there's another percentage of that population that's just going to feel awful.
	And they're not going to be able to get away from feeling awful.
	And then there's going to become, you know, products and stuff that come online to try to mitigate those things for people who understand what's happening.
	Most people don't.
	And so those people can be, especially the ones that die up front, all you have to do is say, listen, they're filled with coronavirus.
	So it's not 5G, it's not some magical death, it's what we told you, it's wave 2.
	So when does wave 2 come out?
	Wave 2 comes out, characteristically, I think, with respect to the time that they plan on bringing online most of the 5G, which is later this fall.
	So, I think that's something worth worrying about.
	I don't think it's a conspiracy theory at all.
	I've looked at it very carefully.
	It makes absolute total sense.
	Why would you come up with this a year early?
	You build in this, this hoax idea that there's a coronavirus.
	Later, you tell people there's going to be a wave two, maybe a three, and then people start dying on the streets.
	And that's where they'll say, ah, we've got another pandemic like 1918, which was also caused, I believe, by electricity and not about contagious, you know, any contagion transferred people to people.
	So that's the big thing to worry about in the future for us, is how we get around the fact that we have to now argue that it's not coronavirus again.
	It's another deadly weapon being used against us.
	And it's just a really uphill climb for people that can think and are in the dark, basically, because we don't have any info.
	Jack, the American people are scientifically illiterate to begin with, you know.
	I mean, none of this is going to compute with the average American.
	They haven't a clue, Jack, and they would never have a clue.
	You could explain it till the cows come home, and they're not going to get it.
	I know, those cows are never coming home.
	I mean, I try to, when I tell people this, even when I write, sometimes I write a long thing to friends on Facebook, and when I get to the point where I try to tell them about this, I know they're going, my God, I was already sick of the first garbage, and now this, you're totally crazy, you know?
	Well, I guess, you know, for people that can see you're alone in this world, it's isolating to be that way.
	Sometimes it's a little scary to me too, because I know I can see and I can't stand to live in a world where I can see what's going on.
	It's like the movie, They Live, you know, that movie is very, uh, it portends a lot of interesting things.
	And it also has a few interesting things in it that, that speak to the coronavirus, whether or not they knew about it then, but my guess is they probably did.
	Well, I think the whole thing was a very elaborate scam.
	They've spent a couple decades sorting this out, Jack.
	It's such an ingenious, devilishly clever scheme to emancipate Mankind and actually kill off a very large percentage of the human population in a way that Americans and most of the world will never realize they were deliberately killed, meaning they were murdered when they thought it was a result of a pandemic that simply got out of control.
	It is so effing brilliant as a scheme I mean, it really, it boggles the mind.
	And I'm gonna leave my last thoughts with you about what can anybody do about this that's awake, a little bit awake.
	And you know, the chance to leave the United States is dwindling.
	I mean, if you could have left, you know, Germany circa 1942 or three, You would have been spared the horror that the same people that are doing this now did to the Germans after the war when they killed up to 13 million more of them through the most hideous and brutal way.
	That fate is facing Americans, especially if they can't wake up before their guns are gone or they're separated from groups of people so that they don't have any support.
	If you were planning to leave the United States, now would be the time to go if you can still get a passport.
	If you already have one, you could still use it for the time being, but they're planning to... Jack, where are you going to go?
	New Zealand?
	Australia?
	I might go to... I mean... I mean, think about it!
	The situation's worse there than it is here!
	Oh, I know, and I went to New Zealand thinking it might be a great place to run to, and it was paradise there.
	I mean, the Lord of the Rings are there.
	But anyway, I think, you know, some places like Thailand, where they're very friendly.
	I mean, I'm talking to white people, but whatever race you are, they're friendly to all races.
	They don't seem to, you know, people seem to be able to live there, mix in and find work and blah, blah, blah.
	I don't know.
	Uh, maybe some parts of, uh, Latin America, you know, people, there's a good case for Panama and Costa Rica, um, and Mexico.
	I mean, Mexico has a couple of things going for it.
	It's got a weak government and it's got a strong cartel.
	They battle all the time.
	They transfer power back and forth.
	Sometimes the government has lost power temporarily.
	So they are too busy doing that crap to really infringe on the people terribly.
	And there are a lot of nice places in Mexico.
	It's a beautiful country.
	It's filled with lots of natural resources.
	So that might be something in the short run, people can get out of here and go there.
	But if you're going to do that, you got to start doing that immediately.
	And if you're stuck here, because maybe you have family and they can't go and you don't want to leave them, then you're going to have to start making some provisions for the short term and the long term.
	The short term is That the financial system is going to die.
	That means the dollar will be worthless.
	So that should trigger you into transferring your money into something else.
	I am not a financial advisor.
	This is my own plan.
	But I believe that silver is the most undervalued asset on planet Earth.
	It has been for decades.
	I believe that it's time for silver to show its worth.
	And I think that you can still buy silver coins for the most unbelievably ridiculously low prices.
	That anybody will ever imagine in the future to believe that you could buy coins at $20 or $25 right now.
	And premiums are starting to go up, but that's one thing.
	And silver's heavy, but you transfer enough in there that you can manage the weight.
	And you also have pre-1964 dimes.
	And 50 cent pieces and so forth, they're about 70% silver.
	So they're nice for small transactions.
	And then you consider some cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency is portable.
	And if you can learn quick enough about how to manage your cryptocurrency wallet, what that all means, and maybe I should organize a class and charge a few bucks and teach people, but you, the nice thing about a cryptocurrency is you can put your cryptocurrency, I'm sorry, you can buy some cryptocurrency.
	And then as long as you carry either on paper or in a digital form, or some people even might have a memory that's diadetic, they can remember that their private key, then you could carry that with you and go across any border and have your money.
	It's right there with you.
	And so, you know, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin are borderless, and therefore you have something that, you know, your house can burn down, but as long as you've got that information.
	And then you have to consider the things you're going to need to get through the coming food shortages, and you're going to need a bridge of food to get to the point where you're going to be finding people of like-mindedness that you're going to be able to grow food with.
	And we don't know what kind of battles we're going to have to have to keep them from forcing us into the cities.
	And whether they're going to bring the Chinese over here and try to drive us into cities like they did.
	Exactly.
	They're just destroying the cities.
	The Democrats are destroying the cities.
	There's nowhere to go.
	Nobody's going to be drawn to go to a city where they have no police and where looting and rioting and murders are taking place on a regular basis with no obstruction from law enforcement.
	Agreed, but I believe they're destroying the cities so they can rebuild them and they rebuild cities very quickly.
	Look at the Chinese, they can put up a city and not even put a person in it that can handle a million people and do it in a year and a half or so and so I think that some of these cities are being destroyed deliberately and some of those populations are less desirable and as a result of that they're being displaced and they're going to be pushed out onto The average middle class America who's being destroyed.
	Middle class is being wiped out.
	It's gone.
	There are going to be two classes.
	We watch the Hunger Games.
	We've got the people on the train, that run the train, and we've got the people that are going there to get killed or survive.
	And that's the situation that we're in today.
	And so I believe that that's why the cities are being made over.
	But I believe that they will try to force most of the remaining population into certain cities where you have to live in little smart rooms and all that crap.
	And so for those of us that want to stand, we need to find like-minded people that we can get a group.
	I mean, you cannot survive without a group.
	There's no possible way that you can make it if you can't organize around, you know, a number of like-minded people.
	And I want to say, you know, in the United States, I don't see many states that are friendly towards the individual, but I'm very pleased with what I see South Dakota doing.
	I mean, I saw them introduce a bill to end mandated vaccinations.
	I see them now saying that they're not going to force anybody to wear a mask and that, in fact, the coronavirus thing has been overplayed and overblown and that masks themselves are harmful.
	You know what, bleep Jack, I got us back on.
	Awesome. - Yeah.
	I don't think we have any audience.
	I don't think we have any audience.
	I think they all gave up the ghost.
	Well, that's fantastic.
	This is absolutely fascinating.
	This is fascinating.
	This last part that most of the audience missed is spectacular.
	Spectacular.
	Thank you.
	I just try to pay attention.
	You think they're destroying the sea so they can rebuild it?
	Yes.
	And they need to be rebuilt because they can't support this kind of compartmentalized living in those old structures, especially in those undesirable neighborhoods.
	They got to wipe that out.
	And they can't just go in there with bulldozers on day one and everybody be in their house the way they were normally.
	They're going to come out and receive a big battle.
	So they forced them out of the cities with this racial violence and by starving them to death and by means of throwing them out because they can't pay their rent.
	You see, now they're throwing these people out.
	They can't pay the rent.
	And that, those undesirables, or those collections of people in those cities that historically are already marginally on low end of the economic scale, they've been destroyed by the coronavirus already.
	They can't pay the rent, and the government was doing a subsidy for a while, but that's going to end.
	And now they're cutting, they cut the food stamps all, or I'm sorry, whatever that was, they got unemployment weekly, you know, Trump come up with, oh, I'm going to have an executive order, that's nonsense, and that's not going to work.
	These people are going to be without their $600 a week payment, too.
	So those people, shortly, are going to run out of money.
	And then, when they run out of money, they run out of ability to pay for their house.
	And then they come out and they're on the street.
	And the number of homeless is going to go up.
	And most of this is going to start happening in the coldest part of the year.
	The darkest winter, as they call it.
	I mean, I'd like to think that there was some Nassar nonsense and that Trump was going to ride from Israel back to America and pick up the American flag.
	That's not true.
	It's not possible.
	It's physically impossible.
	It's intellectually impossible.
	- So I think you're mapping out how we go from a population of 330 million in 2020 to a population of 99 million in 2025. - Exactly.
	And they wrote it right there for us to see.
	And it's right there on Deagle.
	Yep.
	It's on Deagle.
	I went there the other day.
	I took a photocopy of it.
	We put it up somewhere on a page.
	Oh yeah.
	No, no, no.
	And they came up with some bullshit when they were asked to explain it, you know.
	Yeah.
	Well, they couldn't say that, well, we're planning to kill 150 million people.
	200.
	Over 200 million, Jack.
	Yeah, I don't think that would make too much sense to the people listening.
	But that's the plan, and it's right in front of you.
	And if you're not going to be one of the people that's in the body bags that, by the way, they have prisons making now in the Northeast as their primary occupation, if you're not going to be in one of those plastic body bags, then you're going to have to have a plan.
	And I don't think that every plan will be successful, but no plan will definitely not be successful.
	Plans are nothing, and planning is everything, which is what Eisenhower said In World War II.
	So making some kind of plan just might save your life and you've got some time.
	I was told, I don't say told, I was, I heard on the internet through people I watch that the month of October, I'm sorry, month of August through about the 15th of September will be the last time you will have an opportunity to make provisions.
	And then whatever shit's going to start happening is going to happen.
	I can't say that for certain, but I think that we could expect to see a false flag event in a city that blows up a lot of people similar to Lebanon.
	And the same people will be behind that.
	And that would be something, again, it would be displacing, it would be demoralizing, it would be disruptive, and it would just cause more psychological pain for people that are already being damaged psychologically.
	I've heard they might use the alleged Passing a nearby comet to explain away what actually would be one of these rods of God, this titanium, you know, kinetic instrument that has the effect of 100 atomic bombs on either New York City or Washington D.C.
	And Jack, would you take out New York City rather than Washington so that the government is still there to negotiate or what?
	I mean, you know, tell me.
	I mean, if the Israelis already control the government, don't they want to take out any opposition?
	Yeah, the government doesn't do anything as it is.
	They're just ceremonial and they get to, you know, have some perks.
	But they're not involved with any policy.
	They don't change anything.
	Nothing's changed since Reagan was in office, except to get worse.
	They're out of the question.
	I don't know where they would do something like that.
	I mean, I think those are likely targets.
	But, you know, Phoenix, Arizona is just a symbolic target.
	But I also listened to a guy.
	I think he's highly intelligent.
	He's got a great mind.
	And he can see a lot of things that people don't normally see by reading.
	He suggests that he gets indication that they may blow up the football game.
	In Miami in early September when the Marlins play.
	But there aren't going to be any fans in the stand, Jack!
	Yeah, I know.
	But, see, this would be some sort of a large explosion.
	So, you know, they may hit the city of Miami, as above, so below.
	That's what his argument was, that he was able to make references as New York being above and Florida being below.
	And, of course, we know Trump loved New York.
	Now he's in Florida.
	Anyway, there are a lot of good, interesting things.
	Now, we saw a lot of good, interesting things that pointed towards Seattle back in the Super Bowl, and that never happened.
	But the thing is, sometimes you can make them not happen by talking about them.
	And so, I don't know about any of that stuff.
	I think that, you know, I've been hearing about from the fringe alternative media, the people like John Moore that were Around in 2008 talking about Planet X and all that stuff.
	I hear those people talking a lot about meteorites.
	And I know that there are no meteorites.
	In the sense that, yes, we see things come into the atmosphere and we don't know what they are and I'm not going to try to explain them.
	But they're not rocks from space.
	And I don't expect that we're going to get into a meteorite field.
	I think anything that comes in a large number that's very damaging will be man-made.
	And I believe that, you know, I read Jacques Vallée's book, Messengers of Deception, which he wrote in 2009, I think.
	A brilliant engineer and scientist, also a PhD in, like, the philosophy of science as well, similar to you, from France.
	And he's got a whole collection of books where he analyzed the CIA and their And their deceptions and how they move ideas into the culture.
	Anyway, for anyone who believes in spaceflight and or aliens and that sort of thing, I recommend that you pick up Jacques Vallée's book and John Keel's book, Mothman Prophecies.
	Now, it sounds like a crazy title, but Mothman Prophecies can explain to you about one third of the peculiarities of the human race that we've known over the years and never got a chance to understand.
	In his 50 years of research and tracking down interesting stuff, he put it together as far as I'm concerned.
	And then with Jacques Vallée's information, you have enough information to make a good guess as to whether you're being bullshitted about what's happening.
	I mean, everything in this world is deception.
	Not one thing is left.
	What's his name?
	Casey was correct.
	Everything Americans believe is a lie.
	Everything.
	And so, if you're told that it's meteors, you should assume immediately it's not.
	You don't have to go, you can say, I don't know what it is.
	But if they told me it's a meteor... I want to go back, Jack.
	I want to go back to you to talk about the destruction of the cities.
	Driving the occupants of the cities out, they're going to go into the suburbs?
	Are they going to create chaos in the suburbs?
	Yes.
	They're going to create chaos wherever they go, which is part of the plan.
	Now remember, you've got to get rid of a lot of people, so we're not talking about collecting them in the cities right away.
	This plan is over in 2025, so we're going to be wearing masks and dying from one thing or another from now until 2025.
	That's laid out in all their blueprints, everything they talk about.
	Gates repeats that, you know, by 2025 this coronavirus will be taken care of.
	That's their magical day.
	And they even say it's going to be... What he really means by that is mostly you will be dead and we'll have accomplished our goal.
	Exactly what he means.
	And at that time they will then be able to have their civilization built or it's already underway with the cities and the smart places and the United States will be a farming community generally and there's hell on earth.
	And those of us that didn't like the idea were dead.
	Wow.
	And there's no General Patton to help us.
	You know, they kill our best people.
	This has just been breathtaking.
	I've got to tell you, my friend, the payoff here in terms of your analysis is simply stunning.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	Your vote of confidence... Devastating.
	I just try to pay attention.
	I really find it shocking, Jack, because look, everything going on here, it seems to me, is explainable within the framework that you've outlined here with such precision, and I'm just dumbfounded.
	Well, I don't like it at all, and I should have gotten out of here, and I'm not, you know, there's a time to stand and be heroic, and there's a time when doing so is instantly You're out.
	If you're outnumbered, if it's impossible, you wouldn't give up your life if it's impossible.
	The Founding Fathers, those collection of men that were together, it wasn't impossible, so they went ahead and struggled forward, but this situation may get impossible.
	The only way it can get unimpossible is if people wake up now, while they still have food on the table, while their house is warm, You know, while there's not meteorites coming down or whatever the hell it's going to be, and, and say no more masks.
	The masks would be the first thing.
	We're not wearing any masks.
	You can shove it someplace, and that's it.
	It would go away overnight.
	One minute, it'd be gone, because they can't do anything about that.
	They can't come in and put all those people in jail.
	They just have to laugh at, we'd laugh at them.
	And they would be stupid looking as they already are and go back into their cave.
	This has been done before.
	You know, Fauci tried to pull off a fraud back in 1981, 2, 3, and 4 with the AIDS scandal.
	There's no such thing as AIDS.
	There's no such thing as HIV.
	HIV has been completely debunked, and for anyone that would like to see the scientific results of that, you can read this book called Virus Mania, and there's a whole chapter on the HIV-AIDS scam.
	There was an article that was out today in Yeah, G. Edward Griffin's publication called AIDS virus completely debunked.
	There was no AIDS virus, but what they did was they came up with this concept and they were able to pin it on a few people that had symptoms that were caused by a variety of things, intravenous drug use, Activities that were less than healthy and other types of drug things like poppers and so forth.
	And a certain community was affected by that.
	It wasn't a gay community in the sense that they were gay.
	It happened to be the people they hung out with and what they did.
	But anyway, they were able to invent this amazing idea that there was an HIV virus and then it caused this thing called AIDS and that all of Africa was going to get it.
	Oprah Winfrey told us in the early 80s that Within two decades, two billion people will be dead.
	Fauci and, what was that guy's name, another grifter, Dr. Gallo, he comes up with a patent for the AIDS antigens or antibodies and And then he forces the government to only accept any AIDS research and HIV research that was based on his patented antigens.
	And so as a result of that, he made billions.
	And as a result of that, Fauci was involved with yet another Promulgation.
	Fauci told us that we would have a vaccine in the near future.
	I wrote down what he said.
	He said, quote, we have a hundred percent isolated the HIV vaccine or virus from the blood and you can expect a vaccine within a year or so.
	Well, was it been 36 years later?
	There's no vaccine for HIV because there's no HIV.
	There can't be a vaccine for coronavirus because there's no, and there never has been for any coronavirus that we know of.
	Common cold, pneumonia, all that stuff.
	We don't have a vaccine that works against something called coronavirus.
	So this is the second time they perpetrated a fraud, that they attempted to get a medical establishment to go in on it.
	And do things to make you quarantine and isolate and mask wear and that whole shit, but it did work.
	And it didn't work with H1N1 and swine flu, another debacle where they killed all those people in 1976.
	I think that's the one called swine flu.
	And they gave them the vaccines, and some 14,000 people died from the vaccine, and no one was shown to die from the flu.
	So, you know, it's not the first time they've tried to make this war, but this time they're very well organized.
	They've done it and done it, lost.
	But people like Fauci are psychopaths, and they are clearly psychopaths that are such a malevolent human being with no interest at all, no empathy whatsoever.
	Well, he's telling us in the first part we shouldn't wear masks, and then a week later, or 10 days, or 20 days later, we should wear masks.
	That's like telling us that we're bombing Eurasia today, and we're bombing Airstrip One tomorrow.
	I mean, it was George Orwell.
	This week we were bombing, and we've always been bombing this country, and next week they said we're bombing this country, and we've always been bombing this country.
	And that's how you make a person's mind damaged, by making reality float in the middle of nowhere.
	And you can't grasp anything.
	You can't believe anything.
	And how demoralizing would it be when they came on the news every night and told you that, you know, you can wear a mask, and then the next day they say, We never said you can wear a mask.
	What we meant was that we wanted to protect the number of masks that we have in the system so that the health care workers could have them first.
	But we've always suggested you wear a mask.
	What?
	It's just total bullshit.
	Listen, I rarely would make such an observation, but I think what you've outlined here was just pure genius.
	You put this together in a way I've never contemplated.
	I think you're spot-on.
	I find the whole scenario absolutely diabolical, devastating, monstrous, inhumane, just about as sick and sadistic as could possibly be.
	And as you're correctly discerning, psychopaths are exercising the power through technology to manipulate the mass of human beings For whom a plot this monstrous would never cross their mind.
	Nope.
	Never!
	It'd be like a deer being hit by a truck from behind, having the slightest idea what the hell happened.
	I can't thank you enough, my friend.
	This has been simply sensational, and I'm very grateful.
	I'm very glad I changed the schedule to put you on tonight, and God, I don't know how much any of us will be able to do about it, but I'm telling you, this is completely brilliant.
	You gotta do something every day.
	I made flyers, and I made two sets of flyers, and I'm gonna get a third one.
	And I go around to post offices and put them in the little slots that they have there where they put their own flyers.
	And I notice that my local post office doesn't take them out, so they go away by people taking them.
	And I go into grocery stores and I lay them in different places and I lay them down in other convenience stores.
	I mean, there's only, at least I know that in the end I did something.
	I put I put big letters on the back of my car that says quarantine is for sick people and quarantine for everyone is martial law and these are the sort of things that make a little bit of difference.
	I've had people blow their horns and tell me thank you or you know yay and so everybody can do something and if you don't do something then you're part of this.
	You've helped make this happen.
	You do something you at least say I tried.
	I can't thank you enough my God.
	You've done your part my friend.
	I would only wish that the rest of us could do ours.
	I can't thank you enough.
	This is Jim Fetzer thanking Jack Mullen for being here.
	Any who watch this all the way through are gonna be as dumbfounded as I. I think you laid out our future, Jack, and it's absolutely frightening.
	I can't thank you enough.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you for having me.
	We'll do it again.

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