CONSPIRACY GUY Aug 9, 2020: The Official WWII Narrative: Historical Fact or Mass Illusion?
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So what I'm talking about is the World War II official narrative, historical fact, or mass illusion.
That's the issue.
Most of you know me by now.
I'm a former Marine Corps officer, a retired university professor who offered courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning for 35 years before retiring and focusing on exposing the many frauds that have been perpetrated for political purposes by the government and the deep state.
I've published many books.
After my first recent book, Nobody died at Sandy Hook.
Published in 2015 was bannedbyamazon.com.
Mike Palachuk, my series editor, and I realized we need to found our own outfit to a venue to get out our books.
And we founded Moonrock Books, where now it turns out, believe it or not, half of the 12 books we publish there have been banned by Amazon.
That tells you what's going on.
In the USA today.
Remember now my background in the history and the philosophy of science where I emphasize the application of scientific reasoning, puzzlement, something doesn't fit into your background knowledge and experience.
So you want to sort it out.
For example, at the Boston bombing, appearing through the smoke, there were bodies missing arms and legs, but there was no blood.
Well, that's a physiological impossibility.
So that's puzzling.
Speculation.
What are the possible alternative explanations?
A miracle has occurred that there was a massive explosion blowing off arms and legs or some alternative.
Indeed, could it be they used amputee actors and a smoke machine and Adaptation when you apply the alternative hypotheses to the evidence and discover it was fake blood that it came out a little orange.
Blood kits and that they were using amputee actors and we even have the the form the consent form for participation and non-disclosure where when the evidence is settled down we're entitled to accept the best supported hypothesis as true in the tentative and fallible fashion of science.
Tentative meaning with new evidence and additional hypotheses we may have to Reject hypotheses we previously accepted, accept hypotheses we previously rejected, and use others in suspense, and fallible in the sense that even the best supported hypothesis may turn out to be false.
Now, I'm very pleased to have this opportunity to go forward with the most controversial of them all, Here's the official narrative of World War II.
Six million Jews were exterminated in concentration camps.
They were put to death en masse in groups in special gas chambers designed for that purpose, where the gas that was used to kill them, Zyklon B, is a form of cyanide.
That's the official narrative, as we have been told.
And, of course, We see a mountain of evidence that's advanced as supported.
Here you see Adolf Hitler reviewing the troops in one of the German cities at the time.
Rather fascinating photograph.
Turns out that the Holocaust has become a kind of religion, whose three main components are the extermination, the gas chambers, and the six million.
According to an article of Faith, Where you see positions that are not supported by evidence or articles of faith when you accept them in spite of the absence of evidence or even evidence to the contrary.
Hitler ordered and planned the methodical slaughter of all European Jews, and in so doing he committed a crime without precedent, a specific crime that would come to be known as genocide.
To commit this specific crime, he had a specific weapon developed, a weapon of mass destruction, the gas chamber.
Operating with a powerful insecticide Zyklon B, this active ingredient was hydrogen cyanide.
Finally, the result of this enormous crime was the death of six million Jews.
Well, that's what we're told.
Hollywood has repeated this story many times.
We've had a whole host of films, including by Steven Spielberg, Schindler's List, Roberto Benigni, Life is Beautiful by Roman Polanski, The Pianist.
I mean, there's lots of reports for this.
Lots of reports about it.
And it makes a big deal.
Here's a train tracks leading to Auschwitz, the most famous by far of all the concentration camps, about which more will be said later.
And here are some of the insignias that were used to identify the Jewish inmates of the concentration camps.
This is from Dachau, another of the most famous.
Now there are a group of revisionists who believe that The official narrative is wrong in that the public is entitled to know the truth.
Among those I shall cite here are Robert Faurisson, a really admirable French intellectual whom I admire, Eric Zemdel, who is a Canadian political figure, very, very famous in his time, who was subjected to two trials about which Robert Faurisson reported.
Nicholas Kollerstrom, who's a historian of science from the UK and a dear friend whom I've interviewed many times, who's published among his most recent books, Breaking the Spell, The Holocaust Myth and Reality, for which he invited me to write the introduction.
And Gurmar Rudolph, who was a PhD student of chemistry who became involved in research to attempt to verify the use of Zyklon B in gas chambers, and when he came up with a negative result about which I shall report, his academic career was ended and he's become an ongoing student.
of these issues.
Hear about Nick, holds degrees from Cambridge and London, a member of the staff of the Department of Science and Technology at University College London, and a distinguished historian of science.
He contributed three entries, including on Sir Isaac Newton to the Biographical Encyclopedia of Astronomers.
Recently participated in the conference, I Organized Academic Freedom, Are the Limits to Inquiry, held at the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana.
He's a really wonderful guy.
He's the leading expert on the London 7-7 subway bombings, where his book Terror on the Tube is in its fourth edition now, which is the definitive work on the London subway bombings.
Now here's a bit about Robert Forosan, who's published many articles.
Here's according to the, he talks about Hollywoodism, which is really the use of film in order to promote propaganda.
I shall describe the wrongs of Hollywood, he writes, in the shaping of the imposture of the Holocaust, that is, in building the myth of genocide, vast chambers and six million Jews killed by the Germans during the Second World War.
Finally, in the third part, I'll talk about revisionism as the antidote, meaning getting history right.
So, We have a number of books out there that are disputing the official account, debating the Holocaust by Thomas Dalton, PhD, excellent work, did six million, really die.
This was a book where which Ernst Zundel was prosecuted in Canada for distributing.
Meanwhile, I published the introduction to Nick's book, and here's a part of it.
Well, Nick begins by writing, the fastest way to get expelled from a British university is by saying you are looking at chemical evidence for how Zyklon was used in World War II, with a discussion of how delousing technology functioned in the German World War II labor camps.
Well, I'm full of praise for this book.
It's absolutely sensational.
There's a tremendous amount of evidence here.
The underlying desideratum is whether history is supposed to be accurate and true, or, as Voltaire has put it, merely a pack of lives, a living play upon the dead.
Just so we know what we're talking about, in its broadest outline, the Holocaust can be defined by means of its three primary elements, which I shall designate here as hypotheses H1, H2, and H3.
That Hitler was attempting to exterminate the Jews and succeeded by putting around 6 million to death, H2, that many of those deaths were brought about by the use of cyanide gas in chambers for that purpose, and, H3, that the chemical agent that brought about those deaths was Zyklon B, to which the victims were subjected.
Now, the science of the Holocaust, including the work of Gurbar Rudolf, does not leave any room for doubt about H2 and H3, in so far as the laws of biochemistry and of material science.
Laws which cannot be violated, cannot be changed, entail that the bodies of those who are put to death using cyanide turn pink, while the walls of chambers used for that purpose turn blue.
But none of the bodies from those camps have been reported to have been pink.
An empirical examination of the gas chambers has determined that, unlike the walls of the delousing chambers, none of them turned blue, which means that H2 and H3 are not simply false, but have been scientifically refuted.
Now, Dwight D. Eisenhower, who is the leader of Allied forces in Europe for the massive invasion of Normandy and the defeat of Germany, had propaganda films produced at the end, where Hollywood, as we're already observing, plays an important role in shaping public perceptions.
Where Ike brought director George C. Stevens to Germany to take film.
He shot 80,000 feet of film, of which 6,000 or 7.5% was used.
In other words, highly selective.
The impression was of mass deaths at the concentration camps.
This is Robert Forisson.
Hollywood, along with British cinema and Soviet propaganda, had a terrible and direct responsibility, both in the lies attending what was called the discovery of the German concentration camps in 1945 and the ignorable lynching party that was the Nuremberg Trials of 1945-46, where the winners of the war made themselves judge and jury to try the defeated.
It's all gathered true that in 1945 even a privileged concentration camp like that of Bergen-Belsen offered a nightmarish vision, but the horrors discovered there were not created by the Germans.
They were due to the war, and in particular an air war conducted mercilessly to the end by the Allies against Civilians!
It took a fine cynicism to show these whores and point an accusing finger at the defeated, when the ones mainly responsible were the U.S.
and Royal Air Force.
In April 45, no longer able to manage, the Commandant of Bergen-Belsen, SS Captain Josef Kramer, sent men to meet the advancing troops of British Marshal Montgomery, warned them they were approaching a terrible den of infection.
They should not immediately release the prisoners, lest they contaminate the civilian population and the British soldiers.
A British agreed to work with a Weimark, aunts on the site.
They kept the detainees there and tried to treat them.
Mortality remained appallingly high for a long time.
A British wanted to know how many inmates were buried in mass graves.
They extracted the corpses and counted them, then using a bulldozer, a British officer pushed the bodies toward six large ditches where the soldiers forced female SS guards to cast them in with their bare hands.
The reality was soon transformed by the film propaganda services which had people believing the bodies were those killed in an alleged extermination program.
A photograph taken from a plane showing a bulldozer from afar made it possible to convey the impression the vehicle was driven by a German soldier performing his daily work as an employee of a death factory.
In one case, a photo taken up close to the bottom of machine bushing corpse but beheaded the driver so that with him not appearing as a Brit, it was reckoned he was German.
Americans went on to make more and more falsifications of this kind.
The American General Eisenhower, Supreme Allied Commander, was the impresario of this intensified Hollywoodism.
The famous Hollywood film director George G. Stevens was brought to Germany in the uniform of a lieutenant colonel, where his team shot 80,000 feet of film from which 6,000, or 7.5% of the total, were selected.
For General William Donovan, Special Assistant to the U.S.
Chief of Counsel at Nuremberg, was those parts carefully selected by the American prosecution, which on November 29, 1945, practically at the lifting of the curtain of the loathsome Nuremberg trial, were projected to a stupefied world.
Some of the German defendants most disturbed by what they saw deduced that Hitler had carried out a gigantic crime behind their backs.
In this sense, it can be said that the Nuremberg Trial marked the triumph of Hollywoodism.
Here's an example of one of those mass graves.
Now, what you have to understand is that the Allied bombing had destroyed the German cities.
This was a massive destruction of the German cities.
Unprecedented attacks on civilians by the Allies, where in fact they interdicted the railroad lines and made it impossible to resupply the camps.
So the fact that there was massive starvation, typhus, dysentery, and the like in the camps was not the responsibility of the German army or of Adolf Hitler, but of the Allies interdicting the railroad lines.
So did six million Jews really die?
There turn out to be 236 references to 6 million in dire straits or fear of loss of their lives before the Nuremberg Tribunals.
They began as early as 1890 and have no historical or empirical basis.
They appear to be based upon a disputed passage of Leviticus, but even that requires an interpolation since there was no term in the original Hebrew for 6 million.
It's really fascinating to go back and do this research and discover how many references there were in the international literature.
For example, in 1900, Rabbi Stephen S. Weiss, an American Zionist leader, let slip the Zionist agenda behind the Holocaust hope to promote public sympathy for Zionism to wit the Jewish takeover as of Palestine.
Notice here it included, highlighted, there are six million living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.
Here's another 10th edition of Encyclopedia Britannica, 1902.
About six million.
In Russia and Romania, six million Jews being systematically degraded, periodically overflow the western frontier.
I mean, it goes on.
Here's another.
1905, a Jewish preacher declares that if the Jewish-led communist subprime Russia succeeds in its longtime goal of overthrowing the czarist government, Zionism would be obsolete Mentioning again six million Jews.
1906, again six million Jews.
The solution to the Jewish question entails a murderous extermination of six million Jews.
Here's another.
This is July 20th, 1921.
Braves America saves six million Jews.
Massacre threatens all Jews.
As Soviet power wanes, Russia's six million Jews are facing extermination.
Here's another.
This is where we have January 9, 1938.
Persecuted Jews seen on increase.
Six million victims noted.
Six million victims noted again and again and again.
Now, The term six million turns out to have no basis in the, as I'm going to explain, empirically, scientifically, historically, but rather to be derivative of a disputed passage in Leviticus that maintains that the chosen people May only return to the promised land with their minus six million who have been consumed in the flames.
But as mentioned already, there was no term for six million in the original Hebrew, which means it required an interpolation.
The historical record suggests otherwise.
The International Committee of the Red Cross kept meticulous records.
They originally concluded that a total of 271,301 had died in all the camps from all causes combined.
and 301 had died in all the camps from all causes combined.
They recalibrated their total in 1993 and arrived at a total of 296,081, vastly fewer than 6 million, none of whom died from being put to death in a gas chamber.
Here's that original total of 271,301 coming from the International Committee of the Red Cross.
And here's another story about it.
Six million Jews did not die.
The whole claim was a complete fabrication.
Actually, it turns out to have been a massive fraud here for the world to see as a scammed image of an official International Head Cross document proving the so-called Holocaust never happened.
Jews around the world intentionally lied for the purpose of gaining emotional and business advantages for themselves.
They committed willful criminal fraud upon millions around the world.
As I observe, to the extent to which the number of Jews who died in the camps can be objectively determined, the most reliable numbers appear to come from the records of the International Committee of the Red Cross.
Which visited the camps and kept meticulous records of the identities of those who died and their cause of death.
They kept records not only of the age and the sex and the race, but the ethnicity and the religion of those who were deceased and their cause of death.
Not one is reported to have been put to death in a gas chamber.
In the total, in 1993, All the camps combined was 296,081.
Even if you round it up massively to an even 600,000, gypsies, Jews, and the mentally and physically infirm, the empirical evidence contradicts the contention that 6 million Jews were put to death and thereby falsifies hypothesis H1.
Counting deaths attributed to the Holocaust, apart from the records of the International Committee of the Red Cross, turns out to be an exercise in fuzzy math because none of them add up.
As Forasan observed during an interview on 13 December 2006, The Yad Vashem database was built up by simple unverified declarations emanating from unverified sources and processed in such a way that one and the same person can be recorded as having died several times, even it seems as many as ten.
And even the most complete archives are not collated to make total numbers accessible, but only individual cases, which appears an obvious measure to preserve the untestability of H1, the hypothesis that 6 million Jews had perished.
Well, it's fortunate that we actually have had access to the records of the International Committee of the Red Cross and then, as I shall explain, in addition to the death books maintained by the British after cracking the German code.
Meanwhile, the International Committee of the Red Cross in World War II, the Holocaust, where here is a report about the liberation of Auschwitz on 27 January 1945.
For the International Committee of the Red Cross, it also marks a failure to help and protect the millions of people who were exterminated in the death camps.
Except that this is a propaganda piece that doesn't have justification, and of course it's all perpetuated by the Holocaust.
Museums are set up around the world as living memorials to the Holocaust, inspiring citizens, leaders worldwide to confront hatred and prevent genocide, or to scratch their heads in bewilderment.
That's a larger percentage of the world's population has been plagued.
There were no gas chambers.
The two trials of Hurt Zundel were sensational on multiple grounds.
Not one witness was produced to testify for the prosecution at the first trial of having seen anyone put to death in a gas chamber.
Fred Lauter, who may have been the most competent ...expert on gas chambers in the world at the time, traveled to Germany, investigated the facilities there, and returned to report that nothing there would have been suitable to serve as a gas chamber, where Germar Rudolph has confirmed the use of Zyklon B for delousing
Here Robert Forisson has reported on the Zondel Trials of 1985 and 1988 for the Institute for Historical Review, one of the few reliable sources, sites where you can actually keep records there.
Erich Zundel lived in Toronto until a few years ago.
Worked as a graphic artist, an advertising man, a native of Germany.
He kept his German citizenship.
His life has known serious upsets from the day when in about 1981 he began to distribute the Six Million Really Die, a revisionist booklet by Richard Harwood.
First published in 1974 in Great Britain, Where a year later, it was the focus of a lengthy controversy in the literary journal Books and Bookmen.
At the instigation of the Jewish community of South Africa, it was later banned in that country.
In Canada, during the earlier trial of 1985, Zondel had been sentenced to 15 months in prison.
The sentence was thrown out, however, in 1987.
A new trial began on January 18, 1988, where he, Robert Forisson, participated in the preparations and in the unfolding of the judicial proceedings.
He devoted thousands of hours to the defense of Ernst Zondel.
Here is the sensational turn of events, the Lookter Report.
In possession of correspondents, I exchange with Ernest Zundel, this is Robert Forrest on writing.
In 1977-78, with the six American penitentiaries outfitted with gas chambers, they sought to get in touch with the chief wardens to see if one of them would agree to appear to explain how a real gas chamber operates.
Bill Hart, chief warden of the penitentiary at Jefferson City, Missouri, agreed to testify and in doing so pointed out no one in the U.S.
was more knowledgeable About the functioning of gas chambers in Fred A. Luchter, an engineer from Boston.
I went to visit Luchter, Robert Forrest's son, on February 3rd and 4th, 1988, and found he had never asked himself any questions about the gas chambers in the German camps.
He simply believed in their existence.
After I began to share with him my files, he became aware of the chemical and physical impossibility of the gassings and agreed to examine our documents.
So he's got a preliminary hypothesis he's then going to confront by traveling to Poland at Erzsondal's expense with his secretary, his wife, a draftsman, a video cameraman, and an interpreter.
He came back and drew up a 192-page report including appendices, 32 samples taken from the crematories of Auschwitz and Birkenau at the site of the alleged homicidal gassings and in a disinfectant chamber at Birkenau.
His conclusion was simple.
There had never been any homicidal gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau or Majendeck.
On April 20th and 21st, 1980, Fred Lochner appeared on the witness stand in the Toronto courtroom.
He told the story of his investigation and presented his conclusions.
I'm convinced that during those two days I was an eyewitness to the death of the gas chamber myth, a myth which in my opinion had entered its death throes at the Sorbonne Colloquium on Nazi Germany and the extermination of the Jews, June 29th to July 2nd, 1982, where the organizers themselves began to grasp that there was no proof of the existence of gas chambers.
Now here's one of the facilities that was alleged to have been a gas chamber.
There's a floor drain there in the board.
In addition, it had two toilet drains, two manholes, probably added in 1941 when the building was converted into an air raid shelter, but obviously couldn't confine gas or serve as a gas chamber.
Here's Germa Rudolph inspecting a Birkenau delousing chamber for sampling, where the walls have turned that distinctive blue hue.
Inside one of the four delousing chambers at Dachau, you can see the Zyklon pellet slide through the pipe into a wire mesh basket through the warm air conducted through the heater fan unit.
So they did have delousing chambers that did use Zyklon B, but it was for the benefit and health of the inmates to kill body lice which were spreading typhus and dysentery.
Meanwhile, the facilities were inconsistent with being death camps.
Auschwitz map shows a concert hall, woodworking shop, swimming pool, more strikingly hospital and surgical unit equipped with OBGYN facilities.
Hundreds, even thousands of children were born at these centers for extermination.
Or even organize sports and a British soccer team at Auschwitz.
Think about it.
Here's a map.
You have all these facilities.
Seven is a hospital with a surgical unit, obstetrical, gynecological block for inmates.
Quarantine area for newly arriving prisoners.
Nine is workshops for woodworking and sewing.
Ten is a brothel, art museum, and library.
Eleven, orchestra playing Sunday concerts.
Twelve, kitchen with 13 coal-fired stoves, a bakery, and a butcher shop.
Fifteen, a theater for music and drama.
I mean, look.
These were facilities for workers where they had to preserve their health because you can't get work out of a corpse.
Here's an illustration from Nick's book of children being liberated from Buchenwald who appear to be relaxed, well-fed, trusting of the adults.
Here's more.
Liberated by the Red Army.
But just ask yourself, if these are centers for extermination, how could any children be born at any of these camps?
I mean, remember, it takes nine months for a gestation.
Allegedly, they were brought in stripped naked, packed into these gas chambers, and gassed, then cremated.
I love this.
The British football team at Auschwitz.
Look how fit and healthy they appear.
I like this so much.
I put a photograph on the back cover of my book.
Meanwhile, Monica Schaefer, Holocaust denier, she and her brother Alfred were tried and convicted in Germany.
She, a Canadian visiting Germany, received 10 months.
Her brother, who resides in Germany, received three years and two months, however.
She was my guest on 7 June 2020 on The Raw Deal, my show then on Revolution Radio.
Here's a story about Alberta Holocaust denier convicted in Germany for incitement to hatred.
An Alberta woman arrested in Germany on incitement to hatred charges has been convicted and sentenced to time served.
Monica Schaefer's trial concluded in a Munich courtroom on Friday.
This is dated October 26, 2018 according to German freelance photojournalist Ann Weil.
Meanwhile, benign breath advocacy led to the criminal convictions for them.
That's, of course, a Jewish organization that promotes the interest of Zionism.
At trial of Germany of two siblings, both Canadian citizens, except her brother retained his German citizenship for denying the Holocaust is ended with convictions and jail terms.
According to Ann Wilde, photojournalist who monitored the trial, Alfred Schaefer, 63, received a prison sentence of three years and two with sister Monica, 59, who lives in Jasper, received a term of 10 months.
Here is a photograph of her brother and Monica and where I did the interview with her on my show, The Raw Deal, which I hopefully can have a play for us now.
When you attend a funeral, it is sad to think that sooner or later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic not to mention other adjectives to think of all the weeping they will do.
But don't you worry, no more ashes, no more sackcloth, and an armband made of black cloth will someday nevermore adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you gets your friends and neighbors too, there'll be nobody left behind to grieve, and we will all go together.
That is to know.
Universal bereavement, an inspiring achievement.
Yes, we all will go together when we go.
We will all go together when we go.
All suffused with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance to collect on his insurance.
Lloyds of London will be loaded when they go.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, where I am simply delighted to have as my special guest Monica Schaefer, whom I regard as a heroine of our time.
She and her brother were convicted of that almost awful crime of Holocaust denial, a purely intellectual offense of being skeptical about the official narrative of the ending of World War II.
Which posits that six million Jews were put to death in extermination centers using Zyklon B. Frankly, anyone who's actually looked at the matter, studied the evidence, knows that the whole story is a myth, but some people in some locales can be prosecuted and sent to jail
From purely intellectual offense, which is, roughly speaking, believing or saying that which is true in denial of that which is false.
Monica, I can't tell you how happy I am to have you here today.
It's just a real pleasure.
Thank you, Jim, for inviting me.
I am so delighted to be here.
And I look forward to this conversation for the next couple of hours.
I'm sure we'll not run out of ideas.
Yes, yes, yes.
Well, of course, your case got international coverage.
They make a point of that.
They want to set an example.
And of course, your offense is in the eyes of the Zionists.
Most heinous.
So here we have Alberta Holocaust denier convicted in Germany for incitement to hatred.
Monica, have you ever figured out that hatred part?
What was the incitement to hatred when you're simply reporting the results of your own research and your sincere conclusion, which happens to be true?
Well, when they get upset about you discovering that way less people died, you would think they should be happy and celebrating that, but no.
You see, I guess in a nutshell, truth is hate to those who hate the truth.
And you have to ask yourself, when they make laws against Debating, discussing or questioning a certain part of our history.
Well, then there must be something big to hide.
You know, this is what it comes down to.
And, you know, in this discussion with you, Jim, I would really like to get into how the courts actually dealt with our case.
So, not only are we not allowed to say certain things, but then we get to the trial and you're not allowed to bring evidence to defend your position, or you're not allowed to explain how you reached your conclusions.
This is new crime.
That is the crux of it.
If you are not allowed to give evidence in court when you're already, I mean the whole thing is is absurd and you're wrongfully imprisoned.
I was in prison for six months before the trial even began because I was supposedly a The flight risk, they had me in their clutches and they did not want to let go.
And then the trial, really you should call it an inquisition, a kangaroo court.
Alfred called it the Muppet Show.
The judge did not take kindly to that when Alfred, in court, called it the Muppet Show.
And they demonstrated to us every single trial day that it was indeed a Muppet Show.
They proved to us every single trial day That they were protecting lies and that we had truth on our side.
So yeah, I mean, it was absolutely an experience that had I not lived it myself, I would have a very hard time to believe that such a thing could be happening now.
I mean, this was in 2018.
This is just two years ago.
There are There are still people in prison for speaking the wrong words, for having the wrong thoughts, for coming to different conclusions about our history, about World War II history.
And my brother Alfred is still in prison in Germany.
I find that shocking, Monica, that you and Alfred were both convicted, having received prison sentences in Germany.
Did you commit your offense in Germany?
Were you in Germany when you were denying the Holocaust?
Well, you know this very famous video, some people would call it infamous video, It's called, Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust.
I was in Germany when I made that little video with Alfred's help.
He lives in Germany.
He has been living there for many years and I went to visit him.
This was in 2016.
So yeah, that's where we pushed the button to send it out into the World Wide Web.
But you know, when you put something onto the World Wide Web, I would say, what difference does it make where you do this from?
But yes, I was in Germany.
That is true.
Okay, so...
It goes on from there.
You know, then I didn't stop talking about it, but this little six minute video went, just exploded.
It was translated into several different languages within the first few days.
Not of my doing, other people did this.
It really struck a chord with people.
There are many people in our generation, especially, that kind of have the same experience.
You see, what that video is about, I'll just tell you in a nutshell, and it won't take you long to summarize a six minute video.
I apologize.
Shall I?
Yeah, go ahead.
I was just thinking we could play it, for crying out loud.
But would it be an offense for you to play it?
Would Alfred be in deeper trouble?
Oh, no.
No, no.
That would actually be good if you played it, sure.
Well sure, let's do a screen share.
You're familiar with that?
Can you put it up on your desktop and then do a screen share?
Do you know how to do that?
Oh, okay, if you don't have it in the... I don't have it, but we can play it, you know, you go ahead and play it right there on your desktop and we'll put it in the video.
You know what?
On this computer, I don't have it on my desk.
Okay, that's okay, that's okay, that's okay.
Tell us, go back, you were telling us in a nutshell what it had to say.
I will describe it.
And you know, when I'm asked to do a task live, the pressure makes me do everything wrong.
Sure, sure, sure.
It would take me two seconds to do it if I wasn't under pressure.
I know, I know.
Alfred got three years and two months, and you got ten months, which is why you're out, but he's still in.
And then he got more prison time, and I do want to address that.
He got more prison time, oh, I'm just flailing at a mosquito here, but just for defending himself in court and showing how high his dog Pavlov can jump with a certain straight-armed gesture, you know, saying, look, this is how high my dog Pavlov can jump.
And I'm sure you can appreciate the satire that he was putting forth with that, the name Pavlov.
Anyway, when I was a little girl and we actually first day of school I start describing this in the video first day of school I go with my pretty little German dress the dirndl dress and I get taunted and then Actually, the second day I get taunted because the kids didn't know on the first day.
Oh, you forgot to take off your apron, all this stuff.
And so I didn't wear that dress anymore to school because they weren't being very friendly and they were doing things like Heil Hitler and all this.
And I didn't really know what it was about, but it was just unfriendly.
Later, as a teenager, we learned about all those horrors that the So, what the evil Nazis did to the Jews, like making soap out of their fat and making shrunken heads and making lampshades out of their skin, you know, this is what we were told.
Of course, now nobody even tries to talk about that anymore because those were all admitted lies.
But that was all pumped into us and told to us.
Anyway, I go home, because I was a really sensitive kid, and I go home and I say to my mom, why didn't you and your family, your friends, why didn't you stop those horrors from happening?
You could have organized, you know?
I was really traumatized by what they were teaching us.
Here I was, a little German girl of German parents, born and raised in Canada.
Okay, but my parents came from Germany.
They were immigrants to Canada.
Anyway, my mom, she listened to me and she was very quiet and she just said, you know, we didn't know.
We did not know that all those things were going on.
Yeah, it's impossible to know things that actually aren't going on.
You know, I mean, it's just ridiculous.
The whole thing was an elaborate stunt, and we've even had missions from high officials of the Israeli government that it's all a trick.
We'll get to that, Monica, but, you know, tell me again what's in your six-minute video.
Exactly.
So that, I described that in my video, you know, first day of school, then the reprimand to my mother, and then at about the two and a half minute mark in the video, and I know that because when I showed it to my cousins, they just bolted up out of their chairs and started screaming at us.
When I said the sentence, now I know why my mother said We didn't know about these things.
It's because these things did not happen.
Oh, very good!
Very good!
Very good!
Very nice!
Yeah, exactly!
And then the rest of the video I just explain a little bit but how much can you really explain in a very short video?
But I do recommend at the end of the video for people to look up these other videos and I named three.
I put together three titles that I thought even the titles are good and the videos they kind of address a little different angle aspect of this hollow hoax story.
And the three videos were questioning the Holocaust, why we believed, The second one was The Greatest Problem of Our Time, and that's Ursula Haverbeck.
And the third one was Off Your Knees, Germany!
with an exclamation mark after that, and that was Ernst Zundel, the story about what happened to Ernst Zundel.
So with those three videos, which if the viewer of my six-minute video was to watch those three videos to You know if this was shocking to them and they wanted to know how did she ever reach these conclusions, they could have watched those and it would have taken them three hours and 20 minutes in total to watch those three videos.
They would do a lot to start undoing this lifelong indoctrination that we've been fed.
Of course there is way more than that on the internet and I encourage the viewer to I don't know what it is about you Canadians, but Ernst Zundel, of course, was also Canadian, and I have also interviewed him, Monica, and Ingrid, his wife, said she thought it was the best interview he ever did.
I have published Robert Faurisson's report about the Zundel trials, 1985-1988, in my book.
And I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, a title of which was suggested by my series editor Mike Palachuk after we published our first, where I bring together groups of experts to dissect issues that are controversial, which was entitled Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, to which he said someone might well reply, I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
Black Earth, we didn't go to the moon!
But not only do I have chapters about the moon, but I have chapters about the death and replacement of Paul McCartney, and I have chapters about the first death of Saddam Hussein, who was replaced by a devil, who was put on trial and hanged.
And I have about the second death of Osama bin Laden, who was actually our man in Afghanistan, but who died and was buried in Afghanistan on 15 December 2001.
Where Barack Obama found it politically expedient to resurrect him and have him die a second time so he could position himself for a re-election with the triumphal death of the most wanted terrorist in the world when he'd been our man in Afghanistan.
I mean, it's quite a story.
And then I have these chapters about the Holocaust.
They're by Thomas Dalton and Nicholas Kohlerstrom and Robert Foroson.
I mean, I'm telling you, if somebody wants a marvelous introduction, serious research on the Holocaust, you want, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either now in its second edition, I expanded, I added more.
It's really wonderful stuff.
So I'm a huge fan of Ernst Zundel, as I am of you and Alfred, Monica.
Huge.
Well, thank you.
I'm just writing down the title of your book because I would like to get that.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's my favorite.
I publish a lot of books and that's actually my favorite of them all because of its diversity and it's so exciting.
Every issue is so unexpected.
But I love having you here and I thought one of the things we would do during our conversation is talk about some of the most basic evidence In the whole case, that really is easy to access.
I gather you told the court during the trial, I'm convinced the Holocaust is a great untruth of history, that you made the video to make peace with your mother, that she had written the script.
So your mother knew the Holocaust was a fabrication, that it wasn't real, is that correct?
And you had initially thought it was, and then came around?
Was that how it played out?
Okay, yeah, actually, the title, I chose that title.
Sorry, Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust.
It's a very ambiguous title, and I chose that on purpose to be ambiguous.
Because, yes, I am making an apology to my mother, but what I'm apologizing for is my reprimanding her when I was a teenager, kind of blaming her, you know, saying, you could have done something, you could have stopped this from happening.
And, you know, I'm not the only one that felt that way about their parents grandparents.
But of course as you've said I mean she couldn't have stopped what wasn't going on in the first place.
Exactly but you see we our generation we've been indoctrinated to think of our parents and grandparents as part of this monster generation.
So what I to this day will never know if she understood what really went on or didn't go on.
I don't think she knew that it didn't happen because after the war, the Germans also were just, I mean, these lies and propaganda and, you know, atrocity propaganda was just pumped into, especially the Germans, actually.
So when she spoke to me, We didn't know.
That's exactly true.
She didn't know, but she didn't say to me, no, it didn't happen.
She just said we didn't know that these things were going on.
So I believe that she actually came to think that it did happen.
And I can't talk to her because she's no longer alive, you see?
And I would have loved to be able to talk to my parents, both of them.
But I will look up to this after they died, both of them.
You know, my dad lived a lot longer than she did.
And he was very political and was very interested in the news and, you know, was always, you know, pumping his fist at the television screen when all these things that Israel were doing to the Palestinians, it just made him so angry.
And, you know.
So, yeah, and my father, on the other hand, it's interesting because he was nicknamed during high school days, he had a nickname in high school as Jew Lover because he wrote some kind of an essay in defense of the Jews because what he was seeing at that time, he was born in 1919, my father was, so he was in high school before World War II started,
And he was seeing that the Jews were being restricted from this and that and the other thing, and I'm sure that he was subject to still the, you know, propaganda and whatnot.
And he's saying, oh, this isn't really fair, is it?
But not knowing, you know.
This was in Germany.
He was writing this and observing.
What year would this have been?
Well, he would have been in the I would say 1938-37.
Okay, just prior to World War II.
Exactly, but you know the thing is he was always in defense of the underdog.
He was always defending the underdog all through his life.
Or if he saw injustice happening, he was Defending them and seeing what was unjust about it and I don't know why I brought this up in this interview now but it's just interesting because how things go you know like here he was nicknamed Jew lover because he wrote some kind of an essay because from his viewpoint just like today most people are kind of indoctrinated and Brainwashed.
So they're seeing things from a certain perspective.
So he would have still, at that time, he would have seen that, oh, the Jews are being shut out of, you know, political life.
And because that's, they were the enemy.
They declared themselves the enemy.
They declared war on Germany in 1933, for goodness sake.
That's right, that's right, that's right.
Judea declared war on Germany in 1933.
Most of the world's citizens have no idea, Monica.
But later, what I want to say about my father, later he was so upset about what the Israelis were doing to the world and to the Palestinians and he saw that what was going on, the injustices.
I don't think he ever, like I say, Alfred and I woke up to things after my father, both parents died.
My father also had already died by the time we came out of zombie land.
We were both zombies before that, just like, you know, the indoctrinated folks.
You know, Monica, I'm showing you can see it, but the audience can't.
The title page of Robert Forasan, brilliant intellectual revisionist historian, meaning he was trying to go back and get it right, the title page of Robert Forasan, brilliant intellectual revisionist historian, meaning he was trying to go back and get it right, for the Institute for Historical Review about the Zundell Trials, 1985 and 1988, to which I made prior reference, 1985 and 1988, to which I made prior reference, where Ernst was actually tried for distributing a booklet, Did Six Million Really Die?, by a fellow named Richard Harwood, published in 1974 in Great Britain,
by a fellow named Richard Harwood, published Several things, but right off the bat, it turns out, for those who actually do the research,
there are 236 reference to 6 million Jews in dire straits or fear of loss of their lives in the international press beginning as early as 1890 all before the Nuremberg Tribunal so I mean You know, this six million had nothing to do with history.
It had nothing to do with the Second World War.
It had nothing to do with concentration camps, which, as you properly indicate, were actually labor camps.
I mean, you know, what do a bunch of dead Jews do for Germany to advance the war?
Nothing at all.
They put him to work to perform labor, and typically by major military installations, such as ammunition factories, for example.
Ernst was sentenced to 15 months in prison, but the sentence was tossed, and he had a second trial.
Now, what's interesting about these two trials, as I'm sure you are aware during the first, the prosecution could not produce a single witness who could testify under oath to see anyone put to death in a gas chamber.
A Jew or not, not a single witness could the prosecution produce.
And during the second trial, which was, if anything, even more sensational, the defense produced the leading expert on gas chambers in the world, no doubt, by the name of Luchter, who had gone to Germany.
Fred A. Luchter had gone to Germany.
He had visited various of the camps.
He'd come back with 32 samples and a 192-page report.
Showing that none of the facilities could have possibly served as gas chambers.
In other words, there weren't any gas chambers, so obviously the idea of six million Jews being put to death in gas chambers was ludicrous.
Not only that, but my dear friend and colleague Nick Kohlerstrom, author of Breaking the Spell, for which I wrote the introduction, which you can find online as a separate standalone piece entitled The Holocaust Narrative, Politics trumps science.
Nick explained that they were using Zyklon B, which is a mild form of cyanide, to kill body lice because they were spreading typhus and dysentery in the camps and they wanted to preserve the health of the inmates because you can't get work out of a corpse.
So they were using Zykon B. The number six million was just a fantasy.
It appears to have had theological origins in Leviticus.
There's a disputed passage that's interpreted to read That the chosen people can return to the promised land only when they're minus six million who have been consumed in the flames, but Monarch, even that requires an interpolation because there was no word for six million in the original Hebrew.
I mean, there was no word!
So this whole thing is a fantasy.
It turns out the International Committee of the Red Cross was keeping copious document records about every inmate who died, their age, their race, their sex, their gender, their religion, their cause of death.
They originally had an estimate, I think it was 271,000 wound up, recalibrated in 1993.
71,000 wound up recalibrated in 1993.
296,081 died from all causes, not one from being put to death in a gas chamber.
Monica, I would have thought after the Zandell trials, the very idea of putting anyone on trial for a Holocaust denial would be a legal absurdity.
I mean, what's going on?
Exactly!
Wow, that was great.
You put a lot in there.
The Zyklon B thing with the lice, that is in my little six minute video.
I say they were actually keeping the prisoners healthy.
The Zyklon B was used to kill the lice.
Lice carried typhus.
It was a deadly disease.
Many people died.
From the Typhus.
Okay, and then you talk about Loyster.
Yeah, he went over there as a believer.
Believer in the Holy Cause, the Holocaust.
Of course, and he said, you know, whatever I find, I'm going to report.
And, you know, so you could say that if Ernst Dundell wasn't really confident about his conclusion that he had reached about it, he may have hesitated about sending this guy over because he said, Yeah, the Holocaust happened.
But he does his investigation, very thorough investigation, documented it all with video and, you know, witnesses and documenting everything carefully.
And then produces a report and comes to the conclusion not a single person has died from being deliberately gassed in the camps.
Yes, people died in the camps, just like you said, about 297,000.
And you know, the Germans were there.
They were so meticulous they kept such detailed records!
Exactly!
So isn't it funny that the Germans are very meticulous at keeping records and they kind of are laughed at sometimes for being too meticulous about this and yet not a single piece of paper has been found that has a plan to exterminate the Jews or carry it out or or the intent to do it.
No, this was done by mind reading apparently.
That's according to Raul Hilberg.
You know, he had to admit in court, during the Ernst Zundel trials that you have spoken about, that yeah, it must have been through some kind of a telepathic, you know, a nod of the head.
I mean, it was truly absurd.
I'd also like to say about the witnesses.
So in the first trial, you're right, they weren't able to produce a witness who actually saw what, you know, they told us.
But they did have the witnesses during that trial, but not ever again, because the witnesses during that trial got shredded on the stand through cross-examination.
Their testimony was shredded.
You know, somebody talking about smoke, different colors of smoke coming up the chimney, or, and by the way, cremation doesn't create smoke up a chimney in the first place, so that was You know, like all their testimonies, they had to admit, well, no, this is by, I heard a rumor, or this is by hearsay, or no, I didn't actually see that.
Under cross-examination, they all fell apart.
And so during the next trial, they didn't have any eyewitnesses.
They did have, you know, some kind of Holocaust expert but Raoul Hilberg didn't come back, did he?
I don't think.
During the second one, some other Holocaust historian came because Raoul Hilberg was also shredded and he came up with some excuse that he wouldn't go to the next one because it would take him too much time to make sure he was straight on every detail because they might, you know, make me Or make me fall on some detail, right?
But it really was because he got shredded in his testimony.
And I wanted to also respond to what you said about this magic number, the six million.
Let's just take one example where this six million is impossible.
By their own calculations, Auschwitz, they used to have a plaque there that said four million died at the hands of the The Germans, the Nazis, whatever they said, they're on the plaque.
After those trials in the 80s in Toronto, those were very important trials, they took down that sign and they replaced it with another one, 1.5, and then I think they replaced it again.
I think it's down to 1.1.
So they keep downing their numbers, but 6 minus 3 still magically equals 6.
Yes, I know!
That's amazing!
Isn't it amazing?
Yeah.
And like you say, all these references to the six million Jews prior to World War II, you know, six million souls, or six million Jews are under threat, six million, six million, it's over and over again.
That is their cult number.
And you know what?
I just want to bring this to the present.
There was a report, I think it was in the New York Times, Guess how many people are infected with coronavirus?
6.6 million!
I was told and that's why they started the riot and they got their magic number so then I turned to some other calamity.
This is all manufactured, I can't begin to tell you.
The latest absurdity is they're campaigning to defund the police department.
My wife's addicted to MSNBC.
Actually, I think it was on CNN.
And they were interviewing one of the protesters.
They were saying, well, you know, we're still going to have murders and rapes and robberies, so would you get rid of the police?
How are you going to deal with it?
And he tried to say, well, the police are only dealing with the back end, so we got to start with a front end, with the causes of criminality.
He wants to turn the police departments into social workers.
I mean, that's the damnedest, most idiotic program I've ever seen.
If the Democrats want to guarantee they're not going to get a single vote for their candidate in 2020, they're doing a pretty good job of it.
Well, they are.
They're pulling out all stops right now.
And as you say, they're creating, manufacturing the stories.
I mean, you know, I want to tie this in.
How is the Holocaust, or the hoax of it, relevant to today?
Because people, when I first, you know, came out with that video in 2016, and then I go home to my hometown, a small town, 5,000 people, I was, you know, virtually like sort of the proverbial burning at the stake.
Sure, you're an outcast.
I learned a new expression or a new term, a new thing.
It's called ritual defamation.
And it, you know, in a small town where you
I was a relatively well-known person before, because I wore different hats, involved in various aspects of the community, culturally and musically, as well as a violin teacher, and then also politically, like I had been running in the elections and whatnot, for the party which I now recognize as the worst of them all, basically the Communist Party, but it's not called Communist Party, it's called the Green Party, but they're the Watermelon Party.
You know, green on the outside, red on the inside.
Anyway, that's another story.
But some people, well-meaning friends, they said to me, Monica, why do you concern yourself with this?
That happened so long ago.
Like, look at what you've brought on to yourself.
There's bigger problems now.
We have big issues to deal with.
Why don't you just, you know, that's not relevant to today.
Well, Jim, how can you say that in the same time and then recognize that I'm being, I was being totally persecuted in my hometown as well as then later going to jail for this supposedly irrelevant thing that happened so long ago?
Yeah.
Very relevant.
I call it the lynchpin lie.
Because when we pull this one down, and it is coming down, I think many, many people, more than you can imagine, know that the Holocaust did not happen.
But many people at the same time are very afraid to talk about it.
That's why they've got to make examples out of people like me or my brother.
And also make us look like a bunch of crazies.
Make Ernst Zandel look like a crazy man and a bad man.
You see, bringing it back to him, at that time that this was going on during the 80s, I was in my 20s.
And we heard about it every day on the news because these trials took months.
And so if I had read the fine print of the newspapers or if I had looked into it myself, I would have learned a lot of surprising things because Evidence actually came out in those trials that would have shown that, hey, this was a lie, this Holocaust.
But how did they present it?
How did they package it?
See, it's always the packaging, the headlines and how they presented on the news.
To me, I wasn't really paying much attention, but still I got enough to think that he's a bit of a kook or something, you know.
So I didn't really pay attention because that's how they package it, right?
So that's how it is.
Now, how did I want to bring that to the... Oh, to tie that in... The 6 million, 6 million, tying together, yeah, the contemporary with the past.
The contemporary, but, you know, you were saying, well, how could this even fly in the courts?
Like, they brought out all that evidence during his trials.
Well, before that, and since then, they use this other tactic of not allowing evidence.
Yeah.
Not allowing evidence.
Not allowing evidence!
I mean, you know...
Well, isn't that the ultimate absurdity?
You're supposed to have a trial, and it's supposed to be governed by logic, law, and evidence, and they won't allow evidence?
I have been there, done that, with regard to my Sandy Hook research.
I was challenged in court and the judge wouldn't allow me to present the results.
I have 13 experts who discovered the school had been closed by 2008, loaded with asbestos and other biohazard, damaged by a hurricane, unsuitable for occupancy, that there were no students there, that it was a two-day FEMA exercise involving children, which I haven't included in the book as appendix A. I have this massive evidence and the judge wouldn't allow me to introduce it.
I mean, you know, this is just like your case.
You have all this evidence that the Holocaust is a hoax, but he's not going to let you introduce it.
I mean, this is insulting.
Insulting.
It starts with the Nuremberg Trials.
At the Nuremberg Trials, right after World War II, the judge gives judicial notice.
Articles 19 and 21.
People look this up.
Don't take my word for it.
Look it up.
But when you read Articles 19 and 21 of those trials, they basically, in a nutshell, say evidence is not required for something that is self-evident.
If something is common knowledge, we do not need to But common knowledge is just popular belief!
You know, it was a common knowledge at one time the Earth was flat, but I mean, you know, give me a break!
Are you going to take additional notice that the Earth is flat?
I mean, you know, this is embarrassing, Monica.
You're so right.
They declared that the Holocaust happened And so you didn't need evidence to prove it.
In fact, they didn't allow evidence that would talk about anything different other than, you know, what was favorable for them.
That was a total... I mean, many people in high places admitted that was a total... So they ought to have allowed you to introduce all your evidence so you could make a complete fool of yourself.
I mean, that ought to be their stance.
If it was real, let Monica lay it all out there, and since it's self-evident that she's wrong, she'll just look silly.
So let's go forward to another case in the United States.
I'm sure that you heard about this.
The Mermelstein, I think, Mel Mermelstein, who after the IHR, that's the Institute for Historical Review, had put out an offer, a $50,000 reward for anybody who could prove the Holocaust happened.
There was no answer to it.
And this guy, instead of, you know, presenting this and getting an award for the reward that was being put out, he sued them, I think for $3.7 million, something like that.
He sued them and he won that case.
Now, how did... He won the Institute for Historical Review.
He sued them for a challenge?
For raising a question?
Can anyone prove that?
Why would they be suable for that?
I mean, that's ridiculous!
I'll tell you how they were, how they, he won his case because he said he lost sleep and it hurt the feelings of, I'm not sure.
Oh wow, now this is just ridiculous.
This is just ridiculous.
That's not real harm.
This is an aspect of political correctness today, Monica, that is simply lunatic.
If somebody's feelings are hurt, you're supposed to be liable for that, even if what you say is true?
And I think he said he lost some business, too, because he was disturbed by it or something.
But you see, what the judge did there is give judicial notice.
Judicial notice to the jury.
It was a trial by jury and he said the Holocaust happened.
I give judicial notice that the Holocaust happened.
That is not what's under debate here.
That is not being contested here.
What is being contested here is that this man was hurt by the fact that the IHR put out this reward.
For anybody to disprove it.
So he put judicial notice out.
Okay, so now fast forward to our trial in 2018, the trial of Alfred Schaeffer and Monica Schaeffer, myself, in Germany.
So the judge, when Alfred did a lot of talking, he did most of the talking, he was presenting, you know, documentary evidence, all kinds of evidence from Jewish sources, all kinds of things.
And they also showed those three videos that I just named in as recommendations, you know, questioning the Holocaust.
They also showed those because they're trying to hold them against me.
I was delighted that they showed them because I thought, good, we're going to educate the court here on this story.
But they wanted to use it against me to prove that I actually did understand the laws in Germany, because in the Ernst Sandl video, they talk at length about how three countries conspired to get him kidnapped out of the United States, out of Tennessee at the time where he was living.
to get him, they extradited him, they put him in a jail in Canada for two years in solitary confinement, lights on 24-7, cold, terrible conditions, and then he was sent to Germany and put in jail there for five years.
So those videos were shown, but what I want to come back to is Alfred, he was stopped by the judge several times while he was speaking, actually many times.
So the judge would say, well, got to stop you there, got to give you the warning that if you continue on that line where you are going now with what you're saying, that that's new crime.
and we'll have to press new charges.
Alfred would wave him off and say, you want to lock me up for 6 million years anyway?
Well, I'm just going to talk because I'm just speaking the truth, you see.
So he did not...
6 million years, yes.
A year for his life he denied, yes.
He did, he does.
His death he denied, yeah.
He does put that number in at every opportunity.
I like that, I like that.
He has a great sense of humor.
He has a style.
He has a fantastic style.
He writes fantastic letters out of jail.
He's full of spirit and full of absolutely just a huge fire of life in him and he is indomitable in his His spirit.
And he's got great ideas too.
And if we have time during this discussion, I'd like to talk about some of the memes that he creates, his ideas and whatnot.
But coming back to the trial.
So in that trial, we could not present evidence without doing new crime.
In 2019, In August, Alfred was back in court, and he's been in jail ever since July of 2018, by the way.
They picked him up from his home at the end of the first week of trial.
So just, you know, think about that.
There's no verdict yet until October 26, 2018.
October 26, 2018.
But in July, I think it was July 6, 2018, after the first week of our trial had finished, they go to his home and basically kidnap him out of the home and put him in jail.
They say flight risk.
Now, he's been living there for decades.
He's happily married there.
There was no flight risk.
He made it very clear to them that he was looking forward to this trial.
He was keen.
He was on time every day at the trial because he wanted to present his case to the world in the trial.
So this was, they just didn't like that he was continuing to talk to the world.
They're very afraid of him, actually.
This is good, you know.
See, Alfred has no fear.
When we lose our fear, they become fearful.
They become very fearful.
They rule us by fear.
Fear, intimidation, yes.
And I'll tell you one more step in this layer of what you're not allowed to say or do.
And especially in Germany, and that's at the heart of where this lie, you know, starts.
And, and then it extends outwards, you see.
So, and I want to tie that in during our discussion, Jim, with how it relates to what is going on in the world today with white people being under attack.
Yeah.
No, but this starts with this story, the, the, the hollow hoax and, and Germany is kind of the heart of Europe.
And I think that as, as Germany goes, The rest of the white race goes.
So, but the third layer in this, so you're not allowed to say X, Y, Z. It's against the law.
Let's just call it X, Y, Z. Then you're on trial for this crime of speaking X, Y, Z. And if you explain your conclusions or how you reached your conclusions or bring evidence to support your conclusions of reaching, you know, X, Y, Z, that's a new crime.
Then, If you describe the situation that I'm describing to you right now, that is also an illegal act, because I'll give you an example.
In Germany, Sylvia Stoltz, this is a lawyer who was one of Ernst Zandl's lawyers in the trial in Germany, in Mannheim, Germany.
She went to jail.
Four are doing a job too well in bringing evidence to the court.
This is during the Ernst Dundell trials in, I believe, 2006, 2007, something like that.
And she was ordered to stop.
She didn't stop.
She explained exactly why she needed to continue to bring evidence.
It's her obligation and her duty.
And she kept on talking.
They physically carried her out of the court.
Imagine this.
And then she was on trial for that very act of, you know, bringing evidence into the court.
That's her job, remember?
She's a lawyer there.
She's trying to bring forth a defense.
And then she spent three and a quarter years in jail.
And after she got out of jail, she gave a speech in Switzerland at an anti-censorship coalition gathering.
And in that speech, she described the situation, what had happened to her.
She doesn't actually come out and say the Holocaust happened or didn't happen or this and that happened or didn't happen.
I guess by context, though, and describing what had happened to her, how she was taken out of the court, she was, you know, bringing evidence and whatnot that that's not allowed in the German court.
Then she was charged with that when she got back to Germany.
They laid new charges, went through the courts for a long period of time.
In fact, the day that I was arrested, January 3rd, 2018, I was arrested right out of the court.
It was her trial we were attending.
Alfred and I and another friend, Henry Hoffmeyer, we went in to watch her trial and to support her and I wanted to meet her.
She's a hero to me.
They took me right while they did a recess we were out in the corridor and that's where they basically took me from so how ironic okay so that's that's sort of a full circle story of what happened but Sylvia Storrs is now in jail so she was still free at that time free on quote-unquote
But then in May of 2019, she was put into jail to serve her 18-month sentence for that speech.
Jim, for that speech that she gave in which she described the situation, the legal situation, how you're not allowed to speak these things, you're not even allowed to bring evidence into the court.
You're describing that to the world in that speech.
Please, people, look it up.
Sylvia Stoltz, 2012, Switzerland.
It's been, they've been trying to censor that and ban it off the whole internet but I think you can still find it.
And it's got subtitles on it because of course she's speaking in German in that speech.
So English speakers, English people can still watch that.
And you tell me, does that merit going to jail for 18 months?
And actually no speech merits going to jail at all!
But I mean, It's beyond absurd.
These are legal atrocities!
I mean, what has happened in Germany?
I mean, is this a nation with a great history?
I mean, look, I mean, this is incredibly bad, Monica.
Let me just say what Nick has turned up that I find fascinating.
For example, what, you didn't know there was a British soccer team in Auschwitz?
Look how cheerful these guys are, Monica!
I like this photograph so much I put it on the back cover of the book, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
I mean, these guys are healthy and fit.
Who knew they were playing soccer in Auschwitz?
Here's a map of the prison of Auschwitz, and there are all kinds of facilities here that one would not expect.
They had a concert hall, there was a woodworking shop, there was a hospital with a surgical unit with obstetrical and gynecological block.
I mean, there were all kinds of facilities for the inmates that were inconsistent with these being having been centers for extermination.
Here's another of the photos.
Children being liberated from Buchenwald.
They appear to be relaxed, well-fed, and trusting of the adults around them.
Buchenwald experiences a bit of a problem with tourists who come expecting to be shown the gas chambers and have to be told, sorry, there never were any.
Here's another healthy-looking children at Birkenau being liberated by the Red Army.
I mean, Monica, there seemed to be a general lack of understanding that thousands of children were born in these camps.
You know, unless I'm mistaken, it takes nine months of gestation to produce an offspring.
That's an awful lot of children to be born in extermination centers.
I mean, this just shows the absurdity of the whole story.
Absolutely.
Thanks for giving all those examples.
There were children theater, I mean they were putting on little plays, and there were marriages also taking place at Auschwitz.
They even had a brothel!
They had a brothel at Auschwitz!
And they had a cantina.
The prisoners had coupons or some kind of a, you know, prison money that they could go and, you know, get stuff at the cantina.
I mean, yes, they were held against their wills.
So you could say, okay, they, it was like, I mean, these were concentration camps.
There's no question.
Nobody is denying that.
Nobody says there were no camps.
No, no, no, no.
It's, So my book, of course, you see, the ADL asked Amazon if it would ban any book that disputed the official account of the narrative.
So mine was one of over 200 books that were banned.
But get this before we come to the break.
We have a former Israeli politician, this was the former Minister of Education, Shulamit Aloni, who was given an interview, and here's the interview.
Check this out.
Check this out.
Yeah.
Yours is a voice of criticism we don't often hear in the United States.
Often when there is dissent expressed in the United States against policies of the Israeli government, people here are called anti-Semitic.
What is your response to that as an Israeli Jew?
Well, it's a trick.
We always use it.
When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust.
When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are antisemitic.
And the organization is strong and has a lot of money.
And the ties between Israel and the Jewish establishment are very strong.
And they are strong in this country.
As you know, they have power, which is okay.
They are talented people and they have power.
I mean, there she is admitting it!
and other things.
And their attitude is, Israel, my country, right or wrong?
They identify fiction.
And they are not ready to hear criticism.
And it's very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic and to bring up the Holocaust.
I mean, there she is admitting it.
It's a trick, she said.
In America, we claim you're being anti-Semitic If it's in Europe, we bring up the Holocaust.
It's a trick.
It's a trick.
Monica, anyone who has studied the Holocaust, anyone who looks at the evidence, is going to deny that 6 million Jews were put to death in gas chambers using Cyclone Pete.
No one is going to deny that World War II was very bad.
Millions of people, including millions of Jews, died during World War II.
But frankly, I think six million is more than there were Jews in all of Europe at the time.
I mean, the number is just a fantasy.
It has theological origins.
It has no historical or scientific basis.
And one of the important elements of Nick Kollerstrom's new book, Breaking the Spell, is that he had access to the British death books.
The British, of course, Alan Turing was involved in breaking the code for the German encryption so that the British actually had copies of all of the documentation that the Germans were so meticulously maintaining so that Nick could compare the numbers from the International Committee of the Red Cross with the numbers from the death books in the UK of the German documents and they converged.
296,081 from all causes, none of whom died from being put to death in a gas chamber using Zyklon-B, even though Zyklon-B was being used as a disinfectant to count body lice because they were spreading typhus and dysentery.
I mean, this story has to be one of the great monster lies, one of the great monster lies, well appropriately called the holo-hoax, Of all time, of all human history, and it's purely for political purposes because Israel gains a political advantage because of a Western sense of guilt over the Holocaust, so that if the West were to learn the Holocaust was a fraud, that it was mythology, that it didn't really happen.
They're going to lose their political clout, which is why you and Alfred and she have to be made examples and punished and widely publicized so no one will have any doubt because Israel might lose its political edge.
That's really what it's all about.
Yeah.
So the Jews are the eternal victims in their Their narrative, their identity, their story, their, what do you call it, like, um, how they think of themselves, right?
They are the eternal victim and yet it is, like, everything is on its head.
Everything is on its head.
But we're supposed to feel guilty for something that we never did and since it's all turned on its head, the oppressors say they are the oppressed.
It's the opposite, right?
So Jewish power is the ability to prevent us from speaking about Jewish power.
I think that's a line from Gilad Atsman that you know Jewish power is That their power to make it look like they are the victims, that they are the victims.
I want to just address something that you said that about, okay, yeah, in the war lots of people died, including Jews died, but none under an extermination plan.
Right.
There were Jews who died of typhus and sickness and I mean these camps in the last few months of war were terrible places because... Yeah.
My lines were cut.
Because the Allies had bombed the German cities and cut the railroad lines and they couldn't resupply.
I know, Robert Forasan again has done a masterful job of explaining that.
Monica, before we come to the break, let me just say, everyone's welcome to call in.
The number is 540-352-4452.
is 540-352-4452, 540-352-4452 to talk to Monica Schaefer, who is a personal heroine of mine, of mine, Jim Fetzer, right here.
I got her with me.
This is wonderful.
I'm delighted.
And her brother, who's a noble beast.
I mean, here's a man who's outspoken and fearless.
Is, of course, therefore sitting in a prison in Germany because he won't bow down.
He won't knee down.
He won't get down on his knees, which, by the way, is what Black Lives Matter wants you to do today.
And when we know the Rothschilds and George Soros and Hillary Clinton are behind all of this complete rubbish, the idea of getting rid of the police, how many votes do you think the Democrats are going to win with that campaign slogan?
My gosh!
Deep Vonda Police!
This is more idiocy.
It's like the world is run by lunatics.
It truly is that the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
So I'm here with Monica Schaffer.
We want to hear from you the number 540-352-4452.
540-352-4452.
I repeat, 540-352-4452.
This is a unique opportunity to speak with a woman who has spoken at She's been there, done that.
She knows what's it about.
She's been inside the courtroom, Sarah, and I can verify.
I've been through a trial where I was not myself allowed to present evidence in my own defense.
The situation is completely absurd.
And it's not just in Germany.
It's even right here in the USA.
Right here in Madison, Wisconsin, sad to say, that's the state of the USA today.
Now, it was wonderful to feature Monica on the Raw Deal, but where it's indispensable to appreciate why they must maintain the myth, the Holocaust narrative has been used to justify founding Israel.
Israelis worry that exposing the fantasy would weaken them politically.
The expansion of Israel has continued unabated since its founding, where they continue to harass and kill Palestinians on virtually every single day.
Anyone familiar knows the enormous shrinkage of area occupied by Palestinians who historically had the right to the lands here of Palestine from 1948 through 47, 49, 2012, on to today, far smaller.
Meanwhile, Israeli authorities ordered 10 Palestinian-owned water wells closed.
This is May 26th of this year.
Israeli senators are poisoning Palestinian wheat fields in the Jordan Valley.
Again, this is this year.
Palestinians devastated after Israeli settlers destroyed their olive trees.
Again, this year.
Meanwhile, Israel's planned annexation of the Jordan Valley, why it matters.
Any Israeli move to annex parts of the occupied West Bank could effectively kill remaining hopes.
For a two-state solution.
This is extremely important where the world is on the side of the Palestinians, where they have recently voted to become a Jewish state rather than a democratic state.
So Israel today is an apartheid state based on religion, unlike South Africa, which was an apartheid state based on race.
Where Netanyahu says Palestinians in the annexed land will not be offered Israeli citizenship.
This is truly disgusting.
And with a plan, the objective has always been to create a greater Israel, which takes a huge chunk of Egypt, all of Jordan, all of Lebanon, big parts of Syria, of Iraq, and even of Saudi Arabia.
This has been the long-term aspiration.
Thus, Israel has a history of engaging in acts of terrorism.
Menachem Begin led a gang of Urgan terrorists dressed as Arabs at the King David Hotel on 22 July 1946.
Dressed as though they were Arabs, killing 91, injuring 45.
On July 9, 1967, Israeli jets attacked the American spy ship, the USS Liberty.
They killed 34 crew, wounded 171, but the Liberty did not sink.
The leader of the Ergun, Menachem Begin, claimed that Ergun saw the hotel solely as a military building and therefore as a legitimate target.
Three warnings were sent out on July 22, 1946 about the planned attack to keep casualties to a minimum.
The warnings were to no avail.
The British did not evacuate, killing 91, injuring 45.
Jews were among the casualties.
The USS Liberty incident in 1967 was a combined air and sea attack by Israel's defense forces during the Six-Day War.
It was an effort to draw the United States into the war on behalf of Israel, but Moshe Dayan was so successful they really did not need our help.
For reasons never stated, President Johnson's administration didn't interfere when notified the attack was in progress.
The U.S.
and Israeli governments treated it officially as a case of mistaken identity, but it was no such thing.
Here's a part of a report from Wikipedia, which I only wish I could tell you were an objective source.
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a U.S.
Navy technical research ship.
Actually, it was a spy ship during the Six-Day War.
Egypt apologized for the attack, saying the Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Israeli ship.
But it was flying the American flag.
We have a report, you know, between the pilots and their control tower telling them, the pilot saying it's flying an American flag and they're told to attack anyway.
Can you tell the difference?
Israel claimed it spent two hours because it couldn't tell the difference between these two ships.
The USS Liberty and the Yelquisar, the Egyptian flag comparison.
Just absolutely ridiculous to claim that there was any confusion.
They also committed atrocities in Argentina, where I have visited several times and 2007 and 2008.
The Israeli Embassy was bombed in March of 1992, killing 29 persons.
The Jewish Community Center was bombed in July of 1994, killing 86.
Meanwhile, two Mossad agents were apprehended in Mexico City, 15 October 2001, apparently intending to blow up the Mexican Congress.
U.S.
has documented a history of atrocities committed by Israel.
Now, I interviewed Adrian Salbatci, where I'm as a founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and host of Then The Real Deal, who spoke at the National Library of Argentina on 11 September 2009, my second visit, where I was a keynote speaker at an international symposium On 9-11 Truth and Justice.
My special guest today was Adrian Salbucci of Argentina, host of the Buenos Aires Radio Talk Show, Buena Vida a la Jungle, Welcome to the Jungle, founder of the Argentine Second Republic Movement.
Author of several books on geopolitics, including The World's Mastermind, The Hidden Face of Globalization, and Welcome to the Jungle Domination and Survival in the New World Order.
Today we were discussing the alleged terrorist attacks in Buenos Aires in 1992 and 1994.
I asked him to give us a brief sketch.
Adrian reported.
Argentina suffered its worst terrorist bomb attacks, which targeted two specific buildings in downtown Buenos Aires.
The first took place on March 1992, completely demolished the Israeli embassy with 29 people dead.
The second similarly brought down the headquarters for the Jewish Mutual Association in July of 1994, killing 86.
Both attacks took the country by surprise.
Hadn't seen such a dreadful attack since Argentina was targeted by international guerrilla movements in the 70s.
Nor had we anything like that ever since.
They occurred under the administration of former President Carlos Menem.
It was closely aligned with U.S.
global policies.
George Bush Sr.
was president of the U.S.
at the time and by extension.
With the policies of the State of Israel and of global Zionist organizations.
However, the claim was made that it was done by a car bomb.
But the fact of the matter is both buildings blew from the inside out.
The case for a car bomb melted away when the state prosecutor in court hearing invited technical specialist surveyors from the Argentine National Engineers Academy To discuss, determine what caused the Israeli embassy buildings to collapse.
Their conclusion was the explosion took place from inside the building, not caused by an alleged car bomb.
To make matters worse for the Zionist pressure groups, a passerby had filmed from several blocks away the mushroom cloud that rose from the explosion, a characteristic effect that pointed to an external explosion.
It was in a very densely populated part of Buenos Aires.
The shockwave broke glass windows and plaster practically all the buildings across the street.
The only building structurally affected was the embassy itself.
Clearly we either had a car bomb with an unrealistically selective shockwave or the explosion took place inside the building and there was no car bomb.
Meanwhile, it appears they were doing this to punish Argentina for cooperating with Iran in the peaceful development of nuclear energy.
The Israelis are very, very retaliatory.
They take vengeance on those who violate what they want them to do.
Meanwhile, Mossad agents arrested—this is a fascinating development on the 26th of November 2001—Mossad agents arrested in an attempt to bomb Mexican Congress.
As reported in La Vox d'Altland, two men, one of them a former Israeli colonel and Mossad agent, were arrested inside the Mexican Congress carrying 9mm pistols and dynamite, but released under intense pressure from the Israeli embassy in L.A.
in a mind-blowing development.
La Voz de Oste has learned the Mexican Army General Rafael Marcedo de la Concha, who heads the Procurador General de la Republica, the Mexican Department of Justice, has released a retired Israeli defense Force Colonel and presumed Mossad agent Salvador Gerson Smekel and Israeli illegal immigrant Saur Ben-Ziv.
After both had penetrated the security of the Mexican Congress and were in possession of guns, hand grenades, and explosives, the Israelis were hysterical panic-stricken to get them out because it was so damning.
Meanwhile, there are all kinds of resolutions condemning Israel.
As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the Human Rights Council.
The United Nations Human Rights Council.
Since its creation in 2006, the Council has resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.
The 45 solutions comprise almost half, 45.9 of all country-specific resolutions passed by the Council, not counting those under agenda item 10 of countries requiring technical assistance.
From 1967 to 1989, the U.N.
Security Council adopted 131 resolutions directly addressing the Arab-Israeli conflict.
In early Security Council practice, resolutions did not directly invoke Chapter 7.
They made an explicit determination of a threat, breach of the peace, act of aggression, order and action in accordance with Article 39 or 40.
The United Nations General Assembly has also adopted a number of resolutions saying the strategic relationship with the United States encourages Israel to pursue aggressive and expansionist policies and practices.
Completely outrageous in my opinion.
The ninth emergency session on the General Assembly was convened at the request of the Security Council when the United States blocked efforts To adopt sanctions against Israel.
The U.S.
responded to the frequent criticism from U.N.
organs by adopting the Negro Ponte doctrine of opposing any Security Council resolutions criticizing Israel.
That did not also denounce Palestinian militant activity.
That's really a bit much, frankly.
Because if Palestinians have sticks and stones, Israelis are brutal.
Meanwhile, 9-11 itself was an Israeli ob with the CIA and the Department of Defense.
Transferred into private ownership, the World Trade Center, just six weeks before 9-11.
Laurie Silverstein, the new owner, fired the security that had been in place since 1970 and hired an Israeli firm.
Israelis were apprehended during the event at multiple locations.
The aim was to drive the United States into the Middle East to attack the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
Meanwhile, it appears to have originated in the fertile imagination of Bibi Netanyahu, Who conducted a conference, an international conference, in Jerusalem on terrorism and even published a book in 1987, Terrorism, How the West Can Win, before anyone even had the thought of terrorism in their mind.
Meanwhile, the creation of the Project for a New American Century, which was primarily staffed by dual U.S.-Israeli citizens, promoted the idea that There could be a new American century, a new American empire that would endure for the next 100 years if only the United States would move aggressively into the Middle East and exert military and diplomatic pressure outward from that geopolitically sensitive region.
They wrote in their document, Rebuilding America's Defenses, a process of transformation, meaning of convincing the American people this is what they ought to do in the wake of the demise of the Soviet Union.
Even if it brings revolutionary change, it's likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor.
Domestic politics and industrial policy will shape the pace and content of transformation as much as the requirement of current missions.
And that indeed is what they brought us on 9-11.
You may recall how often they were talking about this as a new Pearl Harbor.
There was a whole lot going on.
Israelis were arrested all over the place in Manhattan.
I will be doing a complete show on 9-11 and go into this in greater depth, especially notable where the so-called dancing Israelis Who were observed in Liberty State Park by a resident of a nearby apartment complex who reported to the police that they seemed to be celebrating, high fives, taking footage of the destruction of the Twin Towers.
They were subsequently arrested in a white van that had a diagram of a plane hitting the Twin Towers on the side.
They were arrested and held for some 41 days, as I recall, until they were released and returned to Israel, where three of them appeared on Israeli television and explained that they were there to document the destruction of the Twin Towers, which obviously implied foreknowledge because this was an Israeli op.
The official of the agency released that Michael Chertoff is himself a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
Meanwhile, Wesley Clark at the Commonwealth Club on 3 October 2007 revealed the plan by the United States, in the wake of 9-11, which appears to have been precisely its objective, Was to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, beginning with Iraq and Libya, ending with Syria and Iran.
It didn't work out that way because of intervention of Russia and Iran at the request of the Syrian government, but not for lack of trying.
Meanwhile, I have a whole book about it, America Nuked on 9-11.
Yes, it was a very sophisticated use of a tactical nuclear weapon here on 9-11, which accounts for how the Twin Towers were destroyed.
Take a look at the photograph here, for example, and you can see this was no collapse, contrast with Building 7.
Well, we actually did have a collapse, very sophisticated operation, where there are many types and varieties of nuclear weapons, most recently now used in Beirut, previously done in Syria, where Christopher Busby, who is an internationally recognized expert on the relationship between cancer and radiation, traveled to Fallujah
To explore the cause of the many genetic abnormalities, two heads, no brain, so forth, in newborn infants.
Suspecting it was from the use of depleted uranium anti-tank weapons, but discovering to a surprise it was from enriched uranium from a new source of tactical nuclear weapons we have used.
In Iraq.
So how do they perpetuate the mass illusion?
Well, Jewish domination of Hollywood and the mainstream media helps.
Films like Sophie's Choice, The Reader, and Schindler's List obviously promote the mythology.
The mainstream is controlled by dual U.S.-Israeli citizens across the board.
They always play the anti-Semitism or Holocaust denier Card.
Get this.
Who said Jews run Hollywood?
An inaugural list of 100 players in Tinseltown shows a lack of diversity and a whole lot of those who are reporting running Hollywood.
I mean, it's just fascinating.
You go through the documents.
And if Hollywood's many most powerful Jews were ever a secret, they certainly are now.
A noxious parade of creative and financial influencers and insiders look, highlighting everyone from execs and producers to directors, creative stars and their representatives, packed with familiar surnames.
It might be considered at least a partial Jewish who's who.
It also includes brief interviews and highlights, specific achievements as big wins and big bets, because as everyone knows, that's what it takes to make it in Hollywood.
Here's a panel of 100 executives of CNN, all of whom are dual US-Israeli citizens.
Here's another panel of 100 executives from NBC, all of whom are dual US-Israeli citizens.
Here's another panel from the New York Times, all of whom are dual US-Israeli citizens.
If you want to know how they control the news, it becomes very clear.
Here's a fascinating interview with a former Israeli politician saying anti-Semitism is a trick.
This, I believe, was with Amy Goodman.
You want to listen to this.
Very significant.
Yours is a voice of criticism we don't often hear in the United States.
Often when there is dissent expressed in the United States against policies of the Israeli government, people here are called anti-Semitic.
What is your response to that as an Israeli Jew?
Well, it's a trick.
We always use it.
When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust.
When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.
And the organization is strong and has a lot of money, and the ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are very strong, and they are strong in this country, as you know.
They have power, which is okay.
They are talented people, and they have power, money, and media, and other things.
And their attitude is, Israel, my country, right or wrong.
They identify fiction.
And they are not ready to hear criticism.
And it's very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government.
Notice, this woman founded the Israeli left-wing party Bratz.
She merged with two other socialist parties to form Moretz, of which she became the leader member of the Socialist International, but more importantly, she's a minister of Israel.
Congress, of course, is Zionist-controlled territory.
Cynthia McKinney revealed the pledge on Press TV in 2011.
Virtually every member of Congress has signed the pledge.
Israeli benefits are seldom even subject of discussion or debate.
Facebook, Amazon.com, and other entities are reliable censors.
Cynthia McKinney went on Press TV to reveal the pledge, namely that new members of Congress are asked to sign a pledge to put the interests of Israel ahead of those of the United States.
And if they don't, If they decline, they find their funding dries up, they find next time around they're confronted with a well-financed alternative candidate, or even that their district has been redrawn and they no longer have a seat.
Now, Cynthia was able to overcome those obstacles and serve six or eight terms in the House, but even as notable a member as Dennis Kucinich, whom I regarded as, at the time, the smartest member of Congress, was not.
Here we have the Senate quietly approving $38 billion for Israel amid our historic economic turndown.
This was on May 22nd of this year, of 2020.
So even though the United States is in desperate economic straits, we could ship Israel another $38 billion.
The bill was voted on as part of a package of 15 bills that were voted on en bloc, or all together.
After Senator Kaine said he didn't know what the list contained, she responded, I'm not trying to pull anything here.
This was circulated among the staff.
Everyone knew what was going on.
Meanwhile, Facebook appoints an Israeli censor to its oversight board.
This is just another indication.
Where Facebook has hired the former Director General of Israel's Justice Minister as a member of its new oversight board to censor Americans.
This is carried out with no transparency or legal procedure whatsoever.
No framework for users to defend themselves against allegations.
Their posts are illegal or warranted removal.
Facebook is protecting Israel, of course, as are the mainstream media.
So you won't take down lies or you will take down lies.
I think that's a pretty simple yes or no.
Actually, Mark Zuckerberg for a while was seeking to resist censorship, but they have increased calls for censorship on social media platforms by the U.S.
media and political elites.
Especially after they drummed up the evidence for your false allegations of massive Russian-backed efforts to use social media to influence the 2016 presidential election in favor of Donald Trump.
Even Wikipedia is controlled by Zionists.
I organized a conference on academic freedom.
Are there limits to inquiry in 2014?
Use JFK, 9-11, and the Holocaust as appropriate examples.
When I returned home, my Wikipedia entry had been gutted.
The stakes in this case could hardly be greater for the entire world.
Here it was, an unprecedented conference entitled Academic Freedom, Are There Limits to Inquiry?
JFK 9/11 and the Holocaust was held at the University of Illinois Union in Champaign-Urbana.
The idea originated with Stephen Francis who also organized a Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference held at the Urbana Free Library on 22 September 2013.
Meanwhile my Wikipedia entry which was very thorough very detailed was "Got it all All the research I'd done on JFK, 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, even some about the Holocaust was gutted, taken out.
Fortunately, I had a copy of it available at the time and published a blog about it.
James H. Fetzer, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, lost it.
Meanwhile, and this is just reflective of why the stakes are so stunningly great, an Israeli professor has observed, we could destroy all European capitals.
This is on June 2nd, 2003, or Feb 6th.
An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the Holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome.
Most European capitals are targets of our air force.
Cleveland, a professor of military history at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that collective deportation was Israel's only meaningful strategy toward the Palestinian people.
A Palestinian should be deported.
The people who strive for this are waiting only for the right man at the right time.
Two years ago, only seven or eight percent of Israelis were of the opinion it would be the best solution.
Two months ago, it was 33.
Now, according to Gallup, it's 44.
Clarence Levin said he was sure Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians.
I think it's quite possible he wants to do that.
He wants to escalate the conflict.
He knows nothing else we do will succeed.
Asked if he worried about Israel becoming a rogue state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Kreml quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said, Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.
Kremlin argued Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rogue state.
Our armed forces are not the 13th strongest in the world, but rather the second or third.
I think actually the fourth.
We have the capability to take the world down with us, and I can assure you this will happen before Israel goes under.
For the United States, Russia, China, then Israel forth.
But what he's saying is basically 100% correct.
The final solution to the Palestinian problem for the Israelis would be to load all the Palestinians aboard a ship, float it out to sea, and sink it.
Meanwhile, Amazon.com is participating in the censorship Of any books or studies that reveal the Holocaust was not as we have been told.
Here we have a report.
Israel to Amazon.
Stop selling Holocaust-denying literature.
Jerusalem.
Israel's official Holocaust memorial has asked Amazon to stop selling literature on its site that denies the genocide of six million Jews during World War II and otherwise promotes anti-Semitism.
Yad Vashem's director of libraries, Robert Rosette, has dispatched a letter to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, offering his assistance to curb the spread of hatred.
Rosette said that Yad Vashem had approached Amazon before on this subject, but the internet retailing giant insisted it would not halt sale of offensive and inciting material.
Citing freedom of information, really, freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
Rosette said he hoped that given the recent spike in anti-Semitic incidents in the United States, perhaps, particularly a vandalism attack on a Jewish cemetery near St.
Louis, Amazon would reconsider.
He said he'd have to hear back.
Well, Amazon obliged and took down somewhere around 2,000 different books, including my own.
That's to learn who rules over you.
Simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.
I must say I'm so appreciative of your being here.
This, as I observed in the beginning, may be the most controversial presentation I ever make because of the political sensitivity Jewish political influence is rooted in a Western sense of guilt over the Holocaust, exposing that the Holocaust was a fabrication, was a myth, that it didn't happen, that these were labor camps.
That Zyklon B was used to kill body lice to reduce typhus and dysentery because you can't get work out of a corpse is what was in fact going on, but they do not want you to know and they're going to exercise massive censorship to make sure you don't find out.
So I encourage you to treasure these presentations and to make sure you share them with others If this is taken down, I will nevertheless have it put up at JimTheConspiracyGuy.com and on BitChute and on 153news.net, so look for it.
I'm going to continue to make these presentations.
Meanwhile, I want to thank you all for watching.
This is Jim the Conspiracy Guy about the official history of World War II, which turns out Not to have been real, but a piece of fiction.