The Fetz Presents, Aug 4, 2020 - Pat McShay on Anarchists, Terrorists and Traitors
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I think we got to do this differently.
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I got to do this right now.
We're doing okay.
Pat, can you move a little further to your left, to your left?
Because what I've done here, yeah, I'm having to improvise to get the sound out.
How's that?
Okay, good.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Okay, we're gonna go.
This is Jim Fetzer on the Fetz Report.
I'm very pleased to have a wonderful guy on as my guest, Patrick J. McShea.
I've published a good number of his blogs.
He has a very strong mind.
He's a very clear speaker.
And he's quite direct and straightforward, all of which I regard as great virtues today.
When we have talking heads and we're besieged with bullshit coming from multiple sources that's endlessly repeated, this is a guy who cuts through it all and gets to the bottom of what's really going on.
Tonight, the title of the show is Anarchists, Terrorists and Traitors.
Pat McShay, welcome to The Fetz Presents.
Great to be here with you, Jim.
I'm just delighted, Pat.
I think you're just terrific.
And I just, I love the way you write.
Man, I appreciate it.
Yeah, really, really.
You're so straightforward.
You're so clear.
You're so direct.
And we have so little of that today.
I mean, if there were a legitimate New York Times, you'd be like their lead writer.
I mean, you'd be their chief investigative reporter because you really sort things out.
So there are two issues we want to begin with, I suspect.
One is the fact that the Daily Mail in the UK has now released video footage.
This is the cam footage for the arrest of George Floyd.
I want to go there.
Possibly before, however, we have this massive explosion in Beirut, where it appears they were storing, you know, some stunning quantity of a highly volatile material, but where nevertheless, I believe, myself, in my heart of hearts, this was an Israeli op.
Your thoughts?
You know, that is the first thing I thought.
Israel has been making incursions over the Lebanese border for the last couple of months.
And as you know, Israel is constantly bombing in Syria the last couple of years.
They're constantly messing with all their neighbors.
The Golan Heights recently, supposedly given away by Trump, which is just ridiculous.
And you know, Israel is constantly threatening their neighbors, threatening Iran, threatening Iraq.
You know, the Jerusalem Post, Jim, wrote that Israel was supporting, arming, and training 12 different terrorist groups in Syria.
So, we know that Obama and Hillary Clinton put together ISIS.
So, the Middle East, anything that blows up in the Middle East, I immediately suspect is Well, they're the greatest practitioners of false flags in the world, you know.
I mean, including 9-11, of course, which was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the neocons, and the Department of Defense, most of whom were dual U.S.-Israeli citizens and the most sod.
It appears to have originated in the fertile imagination of Bibi Netanyahu, Back in the late 1980s, we conducted a conference in Jerusalem and would subsequently publish a book on terrorism, how the West can win, before the notion was even in the consciousness of citizens of the United States, Pat.
Right, and then you had the Project for a New American Century, The neocons that wrote the white paper, A Clean Break, that spelled out the need for a new Pearl Harbor event that would get their crusade that George Bush used to get their crusade going.
And all those guys that were in the project for New American Century All ended up in Bush's administration.
Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle.
You know, these guys all wrote the plan to take out Iraq.
And so the American people were never made clear on that.
And most of that was hidden from the public.
I expected that same sort of thing to go on now.
And of course it wasn't just Iraq, Pat, but to take out all the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region, and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran, it didn't quite succeed because of the intervention of Iran and Russia at the request of the Syrian government.
But would you believe most Americans today still Do you know anybody who wants to talk about what's really going on in Syria?
A good place to start would be Eva Bartlett.
I don't know if you're familiar with her.
I've written about her.
president of Syria who enjoys the support of 80% of the Syrian citizens.
You know, anybody who wants to talk about what's really gone on in Syria, a good place to start would be Eva Barclay.
I don't know if you're familiar with her.
I've written about her.
She's a Canadian journalist that, as she speaks the language, she's been over there numerous times, and she's be bumped most of the narrative that's come out of Syria, which is that Bashar and she's be bumped most of the narrative that's come out of Syria, which is that Bashar al-Assad is killing It's all been debunked by people on the ground.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And of course, the alleged chemical attacks were done by the rebels.
The Russians blew that first town around.
And indeed, they've tried this repeatedly.
It's such nonsense.
But the American public is very easily played, Pat.
That's a reason why I think you're so valuable.
You really cut through it all and lay it out the bare bones in a way that makes it unmistakable.
You know another one, another story here, Jim, that we just got an update on, I saw today or yesterday, was the Skripal poisoning, where Sergei Skripal, the former dual agent, spy, Russian spy, that had spent time in a Russian prison, Ended up living in Europe or in England with his daughter and they were poisoned.
And the British government blamed it on Putin and the Russian.
And it came out today that they found out after an investigation that that was all a hoax.
It was a British hoax.
I wrote that I thought it was a hoax two years ago.
That was the poisoning with the Umbrella Blood?
Was that the Umbrella?
He was a former spy, Russian spy, that was a double agent and he ended up defecting to England and the British poisoned him and they blamed it on Russia.
Yeah, they actually poisoned him at his home, right?
But there was something fake about it, because if it had actually been the type of poison they claimed, it would have killed his pets, and you know, I mean, he wouldn't have lived long enough to get to the hospital and all that.
But it was a big enough deal that Trump took the bait, and he went ahead and closed an embassy that employed 60 Russians And he sent them all back to Russia.
And he made a lot of threats over it.
And it turns out it was a hoax.
Just like he sent all those cruise missiles into Syria over a false flag gas attack.
Yeah, that didn't bother me.
I mean, it was startling when it happened because it was a violation of Syrian sovereignty.
But in fact, the missiles were highly ineffective.
They didn't do serious damage to the airport.
Some of them, you know, missed wildly, suggesting That they aren't as accurate as they ought to be, all things considered.
I was much more concerned about taking out General Soleimani because he was actually a great hero to the entire Middle East, not just to Iran.
He was a brilliant general.
He'd been able to put together the forces that defeated Israel in its attack into Lebanon, its battle with Hezbollah.
This guy was a great man.
And for Trump to take him out when he was on a diplomatic mission, when he was actually in Iraq at the airport there, I found that completely outrageous.
In fact, if I were to say the single most offensive act this man, whom I continue to support, Who is, you know, in cahoots with Pompeo quite a bit.
And let's face it, the President's son-in-law, Kushner, I don't trust him.
who is in cahoots with Pompeo quite a bit.
And let's face it, the president's son-in-law, Kushner, I don't trust him.
He's a Chabad Jew.
And these people care more for what happens to Israel Israel clearly than what happens to the United States.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, they're Israel firsters, you know, and with the role of AIPAC, and you, I'm sure, are aware of Cynthia McKinney having revealed the pledge that new members of Congress are assigned to put the interests of Israel ahead of those of the United States.
A dear friend of mine, Gary King, with whom I do the new JFK Show, asked me a A year or two ago, did I know how many members of the present Congress had declined to sign the pledge?
And I admitted I did not.
And he held up one finger and one hand.
There was only one member of the present Congress that hadn't signed the pledge.
And I repeat for the audience, and it would make me in a state of disbelief, Cynthia McKinney revealed this back in 2011, the pledge that members of Congress signed to put the interests of Israel ahead of those of the United States.
Outrageous!
I love Cynthia McKinney, and I've been following her since Uh, she was a congresswoman and I did read about her refusing the pledge.
And, uh, I like everything she's doing now.
I, I follow her on Twitter.
She posted some of my articles on Facebook and I just, I'm a big fan.
That's a very high compliment, Pat.
Yeah.
I think Cynthia McKinney is absolutely sensational.
In fact, I'd love it if Donald Trump were to run with Cynthia McKinney.
Wouldn't that be sensational?
You know, why hasn't he found her a place in his castle?
Yeah, he needs to.
He needs to.
He needs to.
He really does.
Because I agree with you about Pompeo.
He's as much a rat as Anthony Tony the Rat Fauci, who has, you know, done more damage to the United States than any single person in our history with all this bullshit about the coronavirus, lockdowns, face masks, social distancing.
All of which is contradicted by scientific, objective scientific studies and yet he keeps talking about following the science.
There's no science behind the lockdown.
There's no science behind the face masks.
There's no science behind social distancing.
Right.
You know, I've written five articles about the COVID-19 so-called pandemic and I really never thought I'd write five articles on it, but there's so much deception there and with this whole Bill Gates and I don't know if you're familiar, I'm sure you're familiar with Amazing Holly.
Yes.
Boy, he's done some amazing work.
Yeah, amazing.
Polly Judy Mickiewicz, Dr. Butera, Dr. Erickson out in California and his running mate.
I mean, there's some really good people out there.
I've got Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.
Why haven't Trump brought some of those people in?
I think he should.
There's a guy in Yale.
He's a professor in the Yale Department or School of Public Health.
He published in Newsweek, for crying out loud, saying there's a simple solution to the problem that should have been used all along, hydroxychloroquine, and he talked about study after study after study that substantiates it.
But, you know, as some slime dog said to Rachel Maddow when she was asking him questions about this, Using an old drug that's cheap and readily available really doesn't appeal to big pharma because they can't make profits.
Well, boy, you know, and then let's get back to why they are down on hydroxychloroquine, which we know works.
Everyone, or a lot of these doctors have said it works.
It's virtually 100% successful.
Right, but the problem is they're pushing Remdesivir, which is made by Gilead Pharmaceuticals.
George Soros owns the company that makes Remdesivir.
Why is Trump pushing this from the Rose Garden just about a month ago?
He was pushing Remdesivir, which is again owned by Soros.
And in the initial test that they did in China, it showed zero benefit for COVID patients.
They don't talk about that.
So where are these tests that they're doing that are coming back with positive results?
They're probably being done by people that are friendly to Well, you know, when hydroxychloroquine was revealed as the wonder drug, and in fact there was actually an article published in the journal Virology from the National Institutes of Health about which Anthony Fauci has to have known since it first appeared in 2005.
That is explaining how chloroquine and its more mild derivative, hydroxychloroquine, work both as a cure, therapeutically if you have it, or also as a preventative if you don't, so that it's the perfect Solution to the problem.
It's cheap, readily available, been used for some 65 years against malaria.
And as I say, study after study has shown it's virtually 100% successful.
So I find it disgusting.
Trump ought to take that guy from Yale And if he can't fire Fauci, and I think Fauci has all kinds of Secret Service protection that makes it difficult to fire, plus he would feed into the Democrat propaganda narrative that he's trying to suppress.
Fauci, bring in this guy as a special scientific health advisor.
You know, the president can have any number of advisors.
And have him out there with the press and explaining study after study after study shows hydroxychloroquine works like a champ and it's cheap and readily available.
No vaccine, Pat, as I'm sure you're aware, has ever been successful in treating an upper respiratory disease.
In fact, most of these vaccines aren't successful at all.
The one they had for the H1N1 causes brain damage.
There's a vaccine Gates got the India to use and it wound up paralyzing 500,000 children!
And everyone knows that the mercury and the aluminum bases in standard Vaccines for, you know, multiple cause autism.
So there's a perfect statistical correlation between the increased use of these vaccines and the growth of autism and you use them less.
There's a drop in autism.
Pat, would you believe I was dumbfounded to discover that there actually is a cure that reverses autism and that the big pharma bought up and has hidden from the public?
I mean, how disgusting, how disgusting can you get?
Yeah, that is disgusting.
It really doesn't surprise me at all.
You know, the bottom line is, Fauci keeps coming on saying we have to wait for the vaccine, but in the same breath, He said that the virus is changing and replicating, duplicating.
That's what a virus does.
They constantly change.
And so that's why they haven't been able to come up with a SARS vaccine.
They weren't able to come up with a flu vaccine.
What was the flu vaccine last year?
They said it was 9% effective.
Yeah, stupid!
You're gonna kill more people with a vaccine than...
Then the virus would have killed without it.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
It's like Gates' plan to vaccinate the whole world.
And you got to understand for Gates, vaccines are business.
Every vaccination is for him bucks.
And you add up enough and you get big bucks.
And if you vaccinate the whole world, like some $7 billion, that's monster money in the pocket of Bill Gates.
And he even acknowledged Cheerfully that it's going to cost an estimated 700,000 lives, which is more than will die worldwide from the reported coronavirus.
In fact, there's the head of the Right, right.
in Bulgaria, who is a renowned figure in this field, has said he doesn't believe anyone has actually died from coronavirus.
And if you actually map the death pattern, it corresponds to the average lifespan of Americans.
I mean, it's almost a perfect curve of what you would expect.
Right, right.
Look, the last thing I saw was they said that only 23% of people cold would refuse the vaccine.
I haven't talked to a single person that said that they will take the vaccine willingly.
So, you know, I think that the number is probably more like 80% won't take it, but Well, I tend to agree with you.
I mean, it's outrageous.
And then we had Alan Dershowitz actually claiming that Americans didn't have the right to refuse a vaccination if the government mandated, where he has his head where the sun doesn't shine.
I mean, you can go back to the Nuremberg Code.
Which was passed in response to these, you know, bizarre medical experiments by Joseph Mengele.
And it was so shocking.
They're asking, Pat, if you can move closer to your mic and just get a little more volume.
Yeah.
That the Nuremberg Code says you have to have informed consent.
That means a person has to know all the risks and the benefits that are involved here, and such as we are just describing the risks from this vaccine.
And it's going to be incalculable, frankly, Pat, because they actually haven't been able to isolate the so-called SARS-CoV-9 virus, and therefore it's impossible to develop a vaccine if you haven't even identified the virus specifically.
Well, I heard you talking in another interview the other day, and I've written about this, is that they do not have this COVID-19 to where they can even do a vaccine, because there's no, the coronavirus has because there's no, the coronavirus has been around for 60, 65 years, but they haven't isolated the COVID-19, so there's no way they could do an effective, you know,
So there's no way they could do an effective, you know.
Vaccination for it.
And you know, all this claim about the increasing cases we're hearing about every single day is trading on a fallacy of ambiguity.
The word case could mean people who are actually sick from the disease, or the word case could be somebody who tested positive for antibodies for COVID, and everyone virtually has ever had the common cold will test positive for antibodies.
So most of this, again, is complete bullshit.
They talk about these members of the sports teams, the large number who tested positive for COVID.
That doesn't mean they're sick.
It means they once had a cold.
I mean, this is just ridiculous.
And even the World Health Organization has acknowledged that if you're not symptomatic, you're not contagious.
Right, and it's not just somebody that's had a cold or flu.
Anybody that's had a pneumonia vaccination or a flu vaccination, in 10 years they're saying they'll likely test positive.
So, you know, another thing that they're not talking about is Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates are making a fortune just on the testing.
They're making a fortune on the test.
I can well believe it.
I mean, there's an international racket going on here.
This is going to be a huge RICO case.
The trouble is Trump isn't getting advice from the right parties.
I mean, he was sandbagged from the beginning.
That's why they had to take out Michael Flynn.
Flynn wouldn't have allowed bullshit to pass through to Trump.
He would have cut through it.
That's why they were so desperate.
To undermine him, to sideline him.
And of course, Roger Stone is such an astute political operative.
He could have done Trump a great deal of good with advice about how to deal with his political opponents.
But they are, at this point in time, so unscrupulous.
They are so willing to destroy America in a futile effort to regain political power.
Pat, I've never seen anything so disgusting in my life.
I really haven't either.
Do you think that, you know, Trump had brought in Chris Christie, and Chris Christie was going to be the lead guy that was going to set up the new administration and get everything going, and Jared Kushner came in and talked Trump into getting rid of him.
You know, that's probably the reason that they were able to get in there And talk to Michael Flynn and interview him and jam him up the way they did.
I share your suspicions and concerns about Gerald Kushner.
I suspect he's actually Mossad.
He's the foremost mole in the Trump administration.
Yeah, and it's a bloody shame.
I mean, Trump so dotes on his daughter.
That, you know, I don't think it can even cross his mind that she could be married to another rat.
So there's a whole infestation of rats in the White House.
Well, and another thing, you know, I've written about this too, is that his family, his father has been, he's a billionaire in New Jersey, and they, his family has given millions of dollars So putting Gerald Kushner in charge of the Middle East policy is insanity because none of those people are going to trust him.
They know his family.
history, and they know that they're behind these settlements and are enabling these settlements and financing these settlements.
So something's got to change.
Trump, if he gets in for a second term, he needs to start being more America-centric and stop worrying about Israel.
Well, I couldn't agree more because he's done several things.
Actions in relation to Israel I found completely outrageous.
Moving the U.S.
Embassy to Jerusalem as though it were the capital of Israel, when that has to be part of a comprehensive international settlement.
Designate the Golan Heights as Israeli property when the rest of the world recognizes it's simply Israeli-occupied Syrian territory.
And I'm sure you're aware of the huge natural gas deposit discovered in the Golan Heights.
Then, of course, he has unfunded the UN Refugee Organization that would have assisted the Palestinians and At least as outrageous, and in some ways even worse, redefined anti-Semitism by executive order to include any criticism of the Israeli government or its actions, which is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.
I mean, if somebody wanted to take on Trump for impeachment, that would be a worthy issue to raise.
Not the nonsense with Ukraine, which came to nothing and where Joe Biden actually was a poster child for quid pro quo.
With Ukraine!
Now, you brought up the energy and the Golan Heights.
You know, that's Genie Oil Company, Genie Energy, which is a New Jersey company, but they've got offices in Israel.
And on the board of directors of Genie Energy is Dick Cheney, Lord Rothschild, Bill Richardson.
You saw where Bill Richardson recently was Named in the Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Roberts Giffrey Uh, who's been accusing, uh, Dershowitz, and she's also said that she was forced to have sex with Bill Richardson, who's on the board of Genie Energy.
And then you've got Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney, who continues to, you know, push this, uh, uh, Syria, uh, Israel thing.
She's getting her directives from her father.
Yeah.
It's completely compromised in this whole genie energy in the Golan Heights.
Oh, Lord Rothschild's one of the board members, too.
Oh, I know.
That's completely disgusting.
There's some who suspect that Cheney is still running things behind the scenes under continuity government enacted at the time of 9-11.
Which is why, of course, that he and Bush had to be elected, why they had to steal the election in Florida so they could bring us 9-11 and the Patriot Act and all the massive constraints on our liberties that that has entailed.
Pat, let's talk about this George Floyd business now.
Daily Mail, a UK newspaper, is actually very good when it covers a story.
It's very thorough, and it's similar in this case.
So it not only gives you the video, the dash cam, you know, that the cops were wearing, actually body cam that the cops were wearing, but it gives you a whole host of still photos.
So there, I mean, there are at least a dozen photos there.
I was just drawing some.
For a story about this tomorrow for Real Deal Reports, and he was a much more fragile character than you would imagine.
I mean, he was a huge guy, like about 6'5", and he's reluctant to be taken out of the car.
He's very, very worried he's going to be harmed.
He's speaking in a very A frightened voice.
I mean, you'd think this was a little kid rather than a bit of a giant of a man.
And when they put him in the car, he says he's claustrophobic, doesn't want to be put in the car, which, of course, is contradicted by the fact he was driving a car when he was arrested.
But it turns out he was loaded with fentanyl.
Tucker was just talking about he had enough fentanyl in him to kill, you know, kill a horse.
I mean, he had.
Yeah, he had many times.
Go.
He had marijuana in his system, besides the fentanyl.
I think he had meth or cocaine in his system.
And he was, they said he was drunk.
On top of all that, but... Well, I don't think... I would doubt that he was drunk.
He was drugged.
I mean, you know, he was... But he was in a terrible state.
Now, as I have explained in a couple of different places, when they put him in the car, normally that's the key moment.
You take him to the precinct and you get him booked and mugged.
But instead, They took him out the other side, except, Pat, what they took out the other side wasn't George Floyd.
It was this medical training dummy.
It was a torso of a black man manufactured by Sigma-7.
It had various tubes you could insert in.
It had a completely bald skull, which is why...
You know, he's being put in the car and he's got hair on his head, then he's lying on the ground and he's bald, and he was manacled behind his back when they put him in the car, and then he's lying on the ground and his hands are in front of his chest.
But I mean, it was total fakery when they lift him up to put him on the gurney, there's space below his waist.
He has no legs.
I mean, it was just outrageous, Pat.
Outrageous.
You know, something else I noticed that somebody pointed out was that George Floyd had the big giant eagle tattoo on his chest.
Yes.
The video of the guy that they showed without his shirt on, there was no eagle.
So, have you seen those pictures?
I've seen the pictures of him with a huge eagle, which I think is a Masonic thing.
Masonic, they said he was a Mason.
One of the chat room commentators thinks that Floyd was acting.
It was certainly peculiar for a guy of his size to be, you know, he was virtually crying like a little girl.
I thought it was peculiar.
So it may be he was acting, but I'll tell you, the key thing is the magic trick.
And even the Daily Mail said they don't have any footage of showing when he was taken out of the car on the other side.
And that's because that's when the transformation took place between a real physical body and this medical torso.
African-American.
I looked it up on Sigma-7, which, by the way, is a company in Minneapolis, and they got out of town as soon as the riots and looting took place, no doubt afraid the public would turn on them if, in fact, it were figured out what they'd actually done.
You know, no one mentioned much in the media about him making a porn video with a company that is big in the porn industry, and he did a scene with two well-known black porn actresses.
No one mentioned any of that.
He also, the bar that he worked at or whatever it was, the woman that owned it said that it was not unusual for them to have 20 to 25 different security guards inside and outside.
What kind of place has 20 to 25 security guards?
That's pretty peculiar.
Actually, one of the Commentators on my blog at jamesfetcher.org actually posted the porn video with George Floyd, which was very upsetting to other members of the blog, so I had to take it down.
They're asking again, Pat, if you can move closer to your mic, and I want to give you more of the floor now that we've set things up, because This was all manufactured to set up the riots, the looting, the Black Lives Matter, the Antifa, which turns out to be the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party.
So I want you to lay out, you know, your theme of anarchists, terrorists, and traitors, Pat.
Well, you know, the bottom line is, is they keep popping up.
You know, George Floyd is just the latest of distractions.
This latest whole thing in Minnesota just kicked off, I think, what they've been trying to do all along.
And that's Black Lives Matter and Antifa have been around now for years.
Black Lives Matter was started back in 2013.
The women that started it said that they were trained Marxist, trained and dedicated Marxist.
So, you know, what people need to read is Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
That's what's going on.
That's what they've been doing to Trump since he came in office.
Don't just attack the man, attack everyone around him.
They attack his friends.
They attack anyone.
That he picks to be in his administration and they attack him hard and heavy.
And they're trying to stop people from cooperating with Trump.
They're trying to stop people from coming out for Trump.
They're attacking people.
That wear Make America Great Again hats and shirts.
So it's this whole violent subculture that's been created to go after these MAGA people, these Trump supporters.
So now Trump supporters are painted immediately as racist.
Anyone that supports Trump is looked at as against black people and it's just not true, but the whole Black Lives Matter narrative is just a false narrative and people have got to break away from that.
Well, Pat, that's what they would like us to believe, but look, the most recent polls show 49% of blacks are supporting Trump.
I mean, look, right back in December, before all this broke out, there was a Rasmussen poll of black likely voters showing that 40% of black likely voters were supporting Trump.
There was a subsequent poll about halfway between then and now that showed that was standing fast with 37%.
But we're talking about percentages, even if you cut them in half, that would guarantee that Trump would win like 40 of the 50 states.
I mean, look, he's headed for re-election because the Democrats are destroying themselves.
He's regarded nationally as the law and order candidate, obviously.
And when you got a When you got Joe Biden who's brain damaged, I mean, he's committing more and more gaffes.
They're trying to avoid him even debating Trump.
That's not going to go down well.
No, no.
Biden is really scary.
I saw his wife on television tonight and she was saying that her husband is not affected by dementia and he's fine.
It's just a lie.
Well, she just lined her face up.
I mean, anyone can see.
He can't go five minutes without a major gaffe.
And they're getting worse all the time.
I don't know how in the world... We still have three months before the election, and he's literally going down the tubes in front of our eyes.
We can see it every day.
I agree.
And when you talk about, you know, the founder of Black Lives Matter and following the rules for radicals, she's a community organizer.
You remember the guy who said he himself was a community organizer?
He's cut out of the same cloth.
Yeah, he was born in Kenya, for God's sake.
The whole thing was so fraudulent.
I saw another video of him.
The other day, where he said, I'm the first president of the United States of America from Kenya.
He said that.
Well, you know, in Kenya, they have a memorial to him saying, you know, for the first Kenyan president of the United States, not realizing there cannot be a Kenyan president of the United States.
Right, right, right.
Well, everybody tried to tell Ted Cruz that.
That's another story, but yeah, dude, we're in strange territory.
What has become of the Democratic Party, Pat?
I didn't mean to cut you off there.
Go for it.
Go for it.
You know, the Democrat Party, I think what we're going to see, we're going to see their true colors if Trump wins again.
Because if people think what's happened so far is bad, I think if Trump wins again, It's really going to get bad, I think.
Really bad.
Well, I think most of the country is simply appalled by the rioting and looting and taking down statues and defacing memorials.
I mean, there are perfectly lawful ways to do those things.
You have a referendum, you start up a petition, you put it on the ballot.
But to have Governments, whether it's at the city or the state level, responding to the mob.
That is so insulting and violative of the Constitution and due process.
Those people ought to be run out of town on a rail.
And I'm talking about a lot of Democrat mayors in Portland, in Seattle, in Chicago.
These people are a disgrace.
I mean, this Bill de Blasio, Turns out this guy was a radical.
This guy was a communist.
He changed his name.
How he ever got to be elected mayor of New York bewilders me.
Well, it's hard to believe that Rudy Giuliani had that city to where it was safe to walk down the street.
Yes.
You know, in Manhattan.
Yes.
On the Lower East Side.
And now it's dangerous to walk down the street in New York.
Just about anywhere.
It's true.
It's true.
Yeah.
What sense does it make to propose the idea of abolishing police departments?
I mean, this has to be the most crackpot idea in American history.
Who's going along with this stuff?
It's hard to take these people seriously.
And you've got to hope that some of these people, you know, Ilhan Omar, Tlaib, all these people.
AOC, yeah.
AOC may get back in.
Tlaib may lose her race and Ilhan Omar, they say, may lose her race.
They caught her transferring 1.6 million dollars into her new husband's account.
There's some weird stuff going on.
And she actually married her brother to get him into the U.S.
I mean, it was outrageous.
You know, I always rather liked her.
I thought she and AOC was kind of stirring up the pot, but she has done such disgusting and underhanded things, I can no longer hold her in respect.
Right, right.
And by the way, Pat, she's made very emphatic statements about we can't stop with the justice system, that we have to tear down the whole system, any system for making profits so they can decide who gets the profits.
In other words, she's actually advocating the overthrow of the American government in violation of the Constitution, which, of course, Well, unfortunately, Jim, you know this.
impeachment because she swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, which she is attempting to sabotage.
Well, unfortunately, Jim, you know this.
We haven't been able to count on these judges.
Look at John Roberts.
I mean, this guy has let us down time and time again, and it's just disgusting.
And some of the new judges, Neil Gorsuch let us down on a vote here recently.
These Democrats will lose their minds if Trump gets back in and is able to put a couple more, you know, if he gets in for four more years, He'll get at least two or three new judges.
Well, some of us think Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been on ice for nine months or so.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
I think so too.
I mean, she's had colon cancer, lung cancer, she's had pancreatic cancer, and she's had one other cancer.
She's had four different cancers.
More lives than a cat.
I don't want anything to happen to her, but for crying out loud, she should at least retire and take care of herself. - My opinion is I respect the judges once they're appointed to exercise their own independence.
I was very enthusiastic about Kavanaugh and the outrageous attempts to sabotage his candidacy by women coming in and just making up the most ridiculous lies.
I spent a lot of time on that case following extremely closely.
I wrote a couple articles about that and I just couldn't believe I do, too.
where they went with that.
And I see more of that coming down the road. - Oh, I think so too.
I mean, unlike Anita Hill, who I think was perfectly truthful in her testimony about Clarence Thomas, - I do too, I do too. - Who was a total mediocrity.
You know, by the way, he had rented hundreds of porno videos from the local store that was never introduced into evidence to substantiate Anita Hill's claims about him.
She's a woman I regard of great integrity, though.
I'm not familiar with some of her more recent views.
I'd hate to think she's gone further to the left than AOC, for example.
I, at the time, respected her and have, up until now, absent new information.
You know, AOC, I saw how she ended up getting in the race.
Did you see that?
No, tell us.
Her brother saw an ad in like the Village Voice, one of those New York papers, that was a kind of a cattle call for resumes for a congressional seat, and her brother sent in her resume, and that's how she ended up getting an interview.
And she went in and interviewed, just like for a job, and they liked her, and they decided You know, running for Congress.
That's how they found her.
She was working as a bartender in a taco bar in Queens!
Are you kidding me?
And you know what?
She acts like a bartender in a taco bun. - You know, Pat, I don't know why she doesn't bother me at all.
I mean, if someone wants to have wacko ideas and happens to be named Ocasio-Cortez, that's okay with me.
But some of the others are really off the reservation.
Yeah, I think she's cute.
I just don't think she ought to be.
I'd rather she was my dad.
Well, it's a matter of her constituents, right?
We'd agree.
If her district wants to keep her in, it's okay with me.
But I think Omar Ilan Omar, I think she's very unlikely to survive, even though I gather her constituents have in the past been very supportive.
I think it's going to be tough.
She's probably going to be under indictment soon.
I would think so.
I keep reading stories about her.
funneling money here and there and all these different stories about her various marriages and things.
And just nothing seems to stick to her.
It's like once you get into Congress, you know, nothing sticks to you.
Give us your take on Antifa and Black Lives Matter because, I mean, it looks to me this whole thing was very carefully orchestrated.
That was very elaborately planned out.
I think most Americans, even if they were anarchists, wouldn't think about toppling a statue of anybody.
But they're following a plan, a game plan, to be as provocative as they possibly can and to try to initiate or aggravate racial relations, which is so absurd.
You have these athletes that are paid astronomical salaries in the NBA and the NFL.
They're all black.
They're among the most admired Americans in the country.
But, you know, they're doing themselves tremendous damage by politicizing the NBA and even Major League Baseball.
Their ratings are going right into the sewer path.
And I say deservedly so.
I mean, the reason we like sports is it's non-political.
It has nothing to do with politics.
So importing politics is idiotic.
Lyndon Johnson used to say, every time he made a decision, he antagonized some significant group.
Well, when you think about, you know, the diversity of the population that watches the NBA, for example, if they're coming out for Black Lives Matter, they're antagonizing over half of their fan base.
Over half.
The people who paid the most money to watch him play are going to be pissed off.
Just as I am pissed off.
This is just insulting.
I've written a couple articles about how this is all affecting sports and ratings and I just wrote a new article about it and you know look the bottom line is is these athletes they wish that they were playing for more black audiences because some of them have come out and said that.
Chris Bosh a former all-star used to play with LeBron James on a championship.
He said that, uh, playing in Indianapolis's stadium in the playoffs was like playing at a Trump rally.
There were so many white faces and he said that, he said that, uh, their, their stadium was just like most of the stadiums in America, mostly white.
And he said he wished they could play for more black people.
Well, then do a charity game for God's sake, whatever you want, or give black people money so they can afford tickets.
The tickets are so astronomically expensive, only people who are relatively well-off can afford to go to these games.
I mean, he really ought to think things through.
That was an incredibly stupid thing to say.
But if he thinks that, do most of them think that?
It is hurting their ratings already.
Since the initial NBA game last week, the ratings have tanked.
Yes, yes, yes.
They're barely getting a million people.
That's right.
Right, right, right.
And you know, it's the TV stations and networks that make big money from commercials when they play their games that are going to back out.
They're going to change their contracts.
They're not going to get anywhere near the money they have because they don't have the audience.
I mean, the audience is the key to their fantastic lifestyle and the exorbitant salaries they're paid, which most of us think are ridiculous beyond belief.
Right.
They've got clauses in those contracts.
Of course!
Of course!
below certain numbers that the price that they pay for their commercials goes down.
Of course.
Of course.
It's going to start affecting salaries.
It's going to start affecting everything.
Oh, yeah.
I quite agree.
These guys haven't thought it through.
The owners are afraid.
The white coaches are afraid.
But the bottom line is that to say that there is systemic racism, that takes us back to the 60s, man.
That takes us back when nothing was being done.
They forget about what all's been done in the last 40 years, you know, as far as affirmative action.
You know, who was for affirmative action for?
Right, right, right.
All kinds of measures that have been taken.
Yes.
Yes.
And what that did is it brought in all these lawsuits.
departments, fire departments, service exams, because they weren't getting the diversity that they wanted, and they knew that they had to start lowering the standards.
And what that did is it brought in all these lawsuits.
People weren't getting into medical school because they were white, but blacks were getting in with lower grade.
Yeah, this reverse discrimination is actually discriminating against ability and achievement.
I mean, you know, people who have earned their way were displaced by others who hadn't in a misguided effort to achieve some kind of social justice.
But I mean, you know, it goes way back to the social promotion of kids, mostly black kids, who couldn't pass and in order, you know, they promoted them anyway so they wouldn't be embarrassed by being left behind by being the oldest kid to redo the third grade say.
But it's had devastating consequences now because this whole movement is to abolish any consideration for ability.
Did you see what they're doing?
They're saying they're going to get rid of the SAT scores.
I know, it's absurd!
So what they're saying now is because it's prejudiced and it's unfair that intelligence no longer has anything to do with where you're placed or what you can get into.
That's right.
Intelligence is out, skin color's in.
What kind of a nonsense is this?
I mean, the SAT is completely objective.
It's machine-graded for crying out loud.
Nobody knows if somebody's black or white or tall or thin or short.
I mean, it's just ridiculous beyond belief.
The SAT doesn't record whether you're a Catholic, a Protestant, a Jew, or a Zoroastrian, for crying out loud.
Right, but they're saying that these tests are unfair to black people because they can't relate to a lot of the questions.
Well, they're unfair to people who are not well-educated.
And unfortunately, for a host of reasons, the black community is less well-educated than the white.
I mean, you know, sociologists have done the studies here.
I mean, this has been a subject of massive, massive research, Pat.
And it's just study.
Now, there are those who think this idea of abolishing the police is a good idea.
What are your thoughts?
Oh my god, well it's a horrible idea.
Can you imagine just the calls that go out every night for domestic violence?
They're saying that they'll send out social workers on those calls.
Can you imagine that?
We're gonna have a lot of dead social workers, I'll tell you right now.
In fact, in the cities where they're abolishing the police, the crime rate has just been skyrocketing.
Everyone knows!
The more police, the less crime.
Therefore, you get rid of the police, obviously crime is going to skyrocket.
And I'm sympathetic about getting rid of bad apples, but the idea of abolishing the police is to create free fire zones where the criminals run rampant.
Would you believe The police department in Minneapolis has told the residents of the community, this is coming from the chief of police, that they need to prepare themselves to have their iPhones, their purses, or their wallets snatched, and to not put up resistance with the criminals.
Just give in, Pat!
I just saw that.
I can't believe it.
It almost is like it's something that you'd see on a comedy show.
It's like a parody!
Yeah, right, right.
So, it's hard to believe, but you've got George Soros, who just said that he's going to give $200 million more to Black Lives Matter and Antifa, on top of the $100 million that he's already given them.
I mean, these people are violent, and how much of that money is going to their violent Right, right.
You know, what is our recourse against George Soros?
has said he won't be satisfied until the United States has been destroyed.
That's his objective.
This is a guy who I've been indicted, arrested in prison, and taken out, you know, give him a fair trial before we take him out and hang him.
Right, right.
You know, what is our recourse against George Soros?
And I can't believe that Trump hasn't at least brought that up.
He's got to do something.
I mean, it's got to be a question of timing.
We've heard all these reports.
You have this source, Q, QAnon, who's been giving commentary for years now about what's really going on.
The problem is we haven't seen a lot of follow through.
There are a lot of great ideas there, but we don't see a lot of action corresponding to them.
Right, right.
You know, I think that Trump has to do something about Soros.
Have you ever heard of George Webb?
Do you follow him at all?
I know of him, but I haven't.
Tell us about George Webb.
He's done some incredible videos.
They just banned him on YouTube.
But he's been doing a lot of videos about these BlackBerries.
And the Alans were involved with the Blackberries.
The Bidens were involved.
The Clintons.
All these people that are over in Ukraine.
Yovanovitch.
Colonel Vindman.
All these people, I think, are involved in the money laundering over there.
They're involved in probably Illegal gun sales, but there's a lot of stuff going on through that Ukrainian desk and boy, he's put together a lot of pieces.
He might be a great guy to have on.
I think he's... That's a good, that's a nice idea, Pat.
I like that.
I'll check it out.
To get him on the show would be just terrific.
Yeah, but... What's happened to the Democratic Party?
I mean, look!
I voted for Bill Clinton twice.
I voted for Barack Obama twice.
In retrospect, I recognize the damage they've done.
NAFTA, for example, gutted the U.S.
manufacturing and industrial base.
And Obama has done monstrous crimes.
He and Hillary and John Brennan created ISIS, just to give one illustration, back in 2012.
Over the objections of Michael Flynn, who was then the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, they created a vicious mercenary terrorist army in Syria to rape, loot, and pillage.
I mean, they have killed thousands and thousands.
That was thanks to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Brennan.
And there have been reports since Trump's been in office that United States military helicopters are still pulling these anti-ISIS commanders off the field when they're about to be overrun.
Oh, I hope that's not true, Pat.
That would suggest to renegade commanders, because I can't believe Trump would support that.
On the other hand, I was so appalled when he took out Soleimani that, you know, I can't speak with as much confidence.
I'll tell you this, however, if Trump were not a threat to the deep state, there wouldn't be all these massive efforts to take him out.
It's clearly because... No, I agree.
He's doing a lot that is really messing with the deep state.
There's no doubt.
But I'm just concerned.
I'm real concerned about the Middle East.
I think that we're like an audience at a magician show and we're watching the show here while things are going on over there that we're not seeing.
Oh yeah, I'm very worried about the Middle East.
This massive explosion in Lebanon, you know, to me, while there was apparently some vast deposit of a highly explosive chemical there, I think this had to be an Israeli op.
I really am convinced it had to be.
They just knew it was a great target, and it would be very easy to cause this kind of catastrophe.
I do too, and I wonder if they're going to tell us that You know, these were just stores of Lebanese weapons or something.
Oh no, no, it was...
It's been identified in the stories.
I think I can probably look it up, but it was a massive supply of a very, very explosive compound that, you know, would be ideal to create a huge explosion.
Let me see if I can track it down as we speak.
But I'm very, very troubled by all of this.
Now did you see where the Syrian army came across an ISIS underground facility where they had body parts and jars?
You know, the Israelis are big on Here it is.
The National Council for Scientific Research said a warehouse containing ammonium nitrate, a highly explosive material used for fertilizer, was a source of the incident.
You may recall at the Oklahoma City, the mirror building that was supposed to have been ammonium nitrate in a fertilizer bomb, which couldn't possibly have done the kind of damage that was done to that building, which appears to have been done with a mini nuke.
They were pulling explosives out from under the building while they were still putting out the fires.
General Ben Parton, as I'm sure you know, was on the scene the day after, and he said this was not a bomb from the street.
This was not a fertilizer bomb.
This was a bomb that blew out, not a bomb that blew in.
So they knew the day after, Ben Parton was a bomb expert, and he said that there's no way that these bombs weren't in the building.
By the way, you may recall that they were bringing out bombs, Box after box of files from that building.
It appears that's where they had all the mean Arkansas.
And this was a Bill and Hill Clinton operation to cleanse the files of incriminating evidence that would have implicated Bill Clinton.
So we've had a series of miscreants, misfits, weirdos, and criminals occupying the highest office of our land.
I think that's a problem they have with Trump.
He is just not their kind of dirty.
Right.
Are you familiar with Terence Yeakey from the Oklahoma City bombing?
Terence Yeakey was a fireman and he knew people that worked in the Murrah building and he saw that they were taking plastic explosives into the building and he tried to find out what was going on and no one would tell him.
So he told the woman that ran the daycare there on the first floor That they're bringing in all these explosives.
And she started telling the parents who started pulling their kids out of daycare.
And so they went to the woman and said, hey, what's going on?
Why are these people all leaving?
And she said, well, I told them about all these explosives that were being brought in the building.
And they fired her and brought in another woman.
And two weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing, Terrence Yakey was murdered, and they called it a suicide.
Yeah, and Arkansas.
You know, there must be 200 on the Hillary death list by this point in time.
It's outrageous.
At least.
I've been reading the updates over the years.
Yeah, truly disgusting.
But again, I go back to the Democratic Party, you know.
Then, of course, I look at the candidates for both parties.
I mean, I could never have voted for a John McCain or a Mitt Romney.
I mean, these are mediocrities.
McCain was also instrumental in creating ISIS in Washington.
They referred to ISIS as John McCain's army.
And we have photographs of him with al-Baghdadi, who was the head of ISIS.
I mean, it's outrageous.
He traveled to the Middle East to make sure they were sufficiently well supplied, Pat.
Yeah, I called him traitor McCain in all my articles.
I couldn't stand John McCain.
My dad lived in Arizona for 30 years.
He hated McCain.
And, you know, I think McCain was a traitor.
And no one will convince me different.
But yes, they have him.
In pictures with al-Baghdadi, who, by the way, was a Mossad-trained Jew.
You're probably aware of that, right?
Isn't it?
I mean, the hand of Israel is all over these different operations.
I mean, you know.
You wouldn't expect a Mossad-trained Jew to be running a, you know, a Muslim terror group.
But hey, where did Hamas come from?
And they had all of those black Toyota, brand new Toyota pickup trucks there.
I mean, we're seeing a similar phenomenon with these white vans here in the USA.
It looks like Antifa and Black Lives Matter are the analog, the domestic analog of ISIS in Syria.
We have Antifa and Black Lives Matter right here in the USA.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And those Toyota trucks that ISIS was using, I read that those were made and specially outfitted at a plant in Texas.
Oh God, doesn't that make you sick?
It really does.
So who set that up?
We have too many traders inside the gates.
That's, that's our problem.
And we've got to, you know, I was hoping Trump would be the guy that would, you know, start getting rid of these people.
But they seem to have a hold on, you know, him.
I don't know.
Did you pick up on the attempt to assassinate him at the State of the Union?
I've heard that he's, there's been numerous attempts.
Oh, there have been around a dozen, I would say, Pat, but this was especially malicious.
Nancy Pelosi had the poison in her palm.
You may recall at the time, it got a lot of publicity that Trump refused to shake her hand.
Well, we have a lip reader who has been looking at tape of all the conversations going on between the members of Congress before the State of the Union's speech and the president showed up.
And they were all talking about what was going to happen after Trump died.
Oh, it's disgusting beyond belief.
It really is because, you know, the way they coddled Obama when he was in office, it was really disgusting.
And Trump, they jump on him.
Every time he opens his mouth, it's so disgusting.
Right.
He can make the most innocuous true statements and they make a deal out of it.
They showed an interview he gave with an Axios journalist.
Now it's been on the news today where in the context of the conversation about the number of people who died allegedly from COVID, he said, well, it is what it is.
In the context, it just meant, well, a number of people have died, but they made it out like he was being callous and indifferent when he's actually made His best efforts to try to protect the country.
In fact, shutting down the economy he knew would be damaging to his prospects for re-election.
That's why they wanted to shut down the economy.
But based upon what he thought was expert advice from Dr. Anthony Tony the Rat Fauci, Dr. Deborah Birx placed upon the Neil Ferguson model, which was projecting 2.2 million deaths in the US, 500,000 in the UK.
if they didn't shut down the economy.
He did what he thought then was best for the nation.
He has come to the realization that he was played, but he was willing to sacrifice his own self-interest for the sake of the nation.
Look how the Democrats are doing precisely the opposite.
They are willing to destroy the nation to promote their political benefits.
You know, that's the most disgusting thing is that they came out against hydroxychloroquine because, well, for a few reasons, but I think one of the main reasons is because Trump was for it.
Anything he's for, they jump on and they're against.
So it's really disgusting.
And Dr. Frank Boyle, who's a bioweapons expert and used to work for Dr. Fauci, or with him,
And he pretty much has the same opinion of Fauci as Judy Mikevich and some of these other people, but he said there's no question in his mind that this COVID-19, provided there is this COVID-19, I'm not even sure there really is yet, but he said if there is such an animal that it had to be
Yes, there's a Nobel Prize winner, I believe, in biochemistry who said that it's obvious this was bioengineered because it is successful in all different climates, warm climates, cold climates.
No natural virus would react the same in all climates.
He said if he were wrong, he'd give back his Nobel.
Right, right.
So, why has Trump stuck with Fauci so long?
And Deborah Birx, I don't trust any of these people he's got surrounding him.
I think that Fauci has civil service protection, Pat.
But what he ought to do is to bring in someone as an expert advisor on matters of health as a special advisor to him.
He can bring in any advisor he wants, including this professor at the Yale School of Public Health who just published, he's saying, in Newsweek, no less, Pat, saying that we have the cure at hand.
People don't have to die.
It's hydroxychloroquine.
And he went through study after study after study, substantiating it.
Was he on Tucker Carlson recently?
I think that Tucker probably had him on.
I catch Tucker as often as I can.
It's the one program I endorse that's worth watching.
I agree.
I don't like hardly anything on TV.
Well, it's almost all propaganda.
Yeah, right, right.
So, bottom line is, Trump, here we are four months later, and he's not brought in a single person Dr. Buttar, Judy Mikevic, none of these people.
Is he unaware of these people?
Is Fauci SES, do you think?
Is Fauci, you meant Pat, tell me?
Did you see Gates double down the other day on an interview I saw just a few days ago?
He's doubling down.
He's saying you're going to have to take it.
and Bill Gates is a key player in the whole business.
It's a medical mafia.
Did you see Gates double down the other day on an interview I saw just a few days ago?
He's doubling down.
He's saying you're going to have to take it.
It doesn't matter what you want or what you think.
He's just crazy.
I think he's like Dr. Evil.
He is Dr. Evil.
Yeah.
I don't think we've ever had a monster of his magnitude in American society before.
Well, you know, this guy, he's a college dropout.
You know, he's great with computers.
You know, from everything I've heard, he's stolen more ideas than he came up with.
Well, he deliberately manufactured an operating system that had defects so it would have to be constantly upgraded.
This is what the military industrial complex does.
They put up products that have deliberate flaws so they can double their take by the maintenance contract.
So he knew about viruses in computers and now he's talking about viruses with human beings.
And he was laying the foundations for the pandemic for years and years and years now, giving symposia, maintaining that the real threat to humanity is not nuclear war, but rather a pandemic just to plant the seed.
And then he spent a huge amount of money on the World Health Organization, on the Center for Disease Control, on NIH, even on Imperial College, to produce this model that was so deceptive it made such a difference.
I mean, it is a disgrace.
But he was the guy who used his vast resources to orchestrate the whole event.
Well, Neil Ferguson in England.
Everyone in England in the healthcare industry is compromised by Bill Gates' money.
There's no one there that's going to speak up for the truth because they're all compromised.
And the same thing at the NIH.
I read the other day that Remdesivir and Gilead that's owned by Soros, there are eight national health people employees that are investors in Remdesivir.
So these people aren't going to speak out.
They're all corrupted.
They're all involved.
They're all invested.
Absolutely.
And no one in the world more so than Bill Gates.
Right, right.
And he literally, I read about some of the people in England.
Some of these guys refused to buckle down and they refused to give in to Bill Gates.
So he would just double the money.
Oh, Oh, would it take $20 million to get you in?
And he bought them all.
He bought them all off.
So, wow.
It is completely disgusting, but I reiterate, it's like after one of these town halls, where back before the 2016 election, Well, I think it was Matt Lauer asked Hillary a question she didn't know was coming about her emails.
And afterwards, she was furious.
And she unloaded on Donna Brazile.
I mean, she said absolutely awful things to Donna Brazile.
But she also added, you know, as as a way of explaining why this is so serious, she said, if he's elected, we will all hang.
Right.
Donna Brazile said, I wrote about this, she said after Seth Rich was murdered that she started pulling her blinds down when she was at home because she was afraid that they would shoot her through the window and kill her like they killed Seth Rich.
Yeah, this is Donna Brazile talking about Hillary Clinton!
Yeah!
They said that Hillary Clinton, the night that she lost the election, screamed at Donna Brazile in front of 50 people and she was livid with her, so. - Well, Hillary is a monster of depravity, of dimensions that Americans cannot possibly imagine.
I discussed it in a show I did on Pizzagate in her role, but I warned everyone that this is so horrible, so awful, these actions done, that when they discovered the videos of these actions with Huma Abedin and her in relation to a 14-year-old girl, That very tough NYPD officers with vast experience were reduced to tears.
Are you talking about the Anthony Weiner laptop?
Yeah, the Tony Weiner, yeah.
Anthony Weiner laptop, yeah.
Are we ever going to see that?
Oh, I think we will eventually, but would you believe, of the 10 officers who witnessed, of the 12 officers who witnessed all those videos, 10 of them are dead.
I saw that, yeah.
Yeah, I did see that.
Hillary is very thorough and very methodical.
Well, you know, did you ever read, do you remember Victor Thorne?
Yes!
Yes, I knew him.
I really liked him.
And he went out for a jog in the mountains on his 50th birthday and he had numerous best-selling books.
And he was shot in the head on his birthday on the top of this mountain that he used to run, you know, through.
I'm sure the Clintons killed him.
I read a series of books that he wrote about the Clintons and the Clinton death list and all that.
I'm sure he was just one of the Oh, I think he had a three-volume set about the Clintons.
Victor Thorne was actually with me in Alexandria, Virginia during the Massau trial where we were protesting the absurdity of what was going on there.
He and I and a number of others.
Did it surprise you to see that there was a report that he killed himself?
Others who know more about this case actually think that it actually was a suicide, but I share your apprehension.
I mean, there were more than sufficient reasons for Hillary to take him out, believe me.
She has taken out many others for far lesser offenses.
Right, right.
Well, you know, we've just got so many people on that list.
Give me your assessment of Joe Biden and where he's going with his vice presidential thing, because Tucker's been emphasizing how this is the most consequential vice presidential pick.
Of all time, in the sense that it's obvious Biden is cognitively incompetent.
He's actually brain damaged from multiple aneurysms.
I do not believe, Pat, they can actually nominate him in Milwaukee.
I think there's going to be a switch.
And my best guess is that his replacement would be Andrew Cuomo, because he's been getting massive FaceTime on television.
He's on TV more than the president.
Well, you know, that's, you know, maybe, but he's got some answers.
He's got to answer some questions about all those people that he sent to those nursing homes that died.
You know, I heard an interesting point made just today that hadn't previously crossed my mind.
Yes, he deliberately sent in persons who were infected with the coronavirus into these nursing homes where we know the elderly, the infirm, especially with pre-existing conditions, are the most vulnerable.
Then again, of course, they're the most likely to die anyway of their various maladies.
And I think most of the deaths from CV are being mapped onto other causes.
You know, it may be no one has actually ever died from CV, but here's the thing.
They were pointing out that actually elderly people are overwhelmingly supporters of Trump.
So they're not only promoting the coronavirus, but they're depriving him of potential votes.
And frankly, that's a very cynical view, but it is equal to the duplicity being practiced, perpetrated on the nation by the Democrats, who have completely lost their minds.
I mean, they are suffering from mass illusions, Pat.
I mean, it's stunning.
They still think that Biden can beat Trump.
I don't think there's a chance.
Listen, let me ask you a question.
I mean, Joe Biden has never been a guy that anyone had confidence in.
He's been there in the Senate since he was 29 years old.
He's never done anything.
He's always been a screw up.
But if you listen to his performance in the debate, the vice president's debate, Not that long ago.
He sounds like a different guy just then.
Since then.
So he really has gone downhill so badly.
There's no way they could keep him at the top of the ticket.
I thought they'd bring in Michelle Obama.
Well, I believed that for some time as vice presidential candidate, and I've said many times and explained and presented the evidence about it.
It's fine with me if you want to vote for a man with breast implants and a huge shaving bill.
Right, right.
Because I call her Big Mike.
Yes.
But, you know, where else are they going to go?
You look at some of these people and the problem, Kamala Harris, are you kidding?
You know, she's got the whole Willie Brown thing.
I wrote an article where I went back to her relationship with Willie Brown.
Yes.
And, you know, let's face it, does she have a career without Willie Brown?
She got, she got into politics on her back.
Right, right.
And some of these other people, There's problems with all of them, frankly.
I think there's no way they can win this election unless they cheat.
And that's why they want to send out these ballots by the millions.
Frankly, I don't think we're going to see a winner on election night again.
Well, we aren't if mail ballots have anything to do with it.
I mean, look at New York in a primary.
It's six weeks out and they still don't have a solution.
That's hard to believe.
And that's on a much smaller scale, Pat.
That's nothing comparable to what the nation would be up against because the states aren't prepared to deal with a vast number of mail-in ballots.
Right.
That's, you know, that's a congressional district in New York.
You know how many people voted for AOC?
16,000 people.
That's it.
So, you know, it doesn't take much to become a congressman, does it?
You just gotta fool 16,000 people, I guess.
You know, it's curious.
I can't see if anyone out there is in the chat room.
Please put a note here in the chat box because I want to know you're still there.
I'm concerned that I haven't seen any comments for a good while now.
And since we're heading into the home stretch, if anyone there has questions for Pat or for me, it's a good time now to put them into the chat.
So please do so.
Yeah, where do they go for a vice president?
I mean, it's all bizarre beyond belief.
And you're right about Kamala.
She's a checkered.
Elizabeth Warren, a total fraud.
I mean, other Kirsten Gillibrand, a complete flyweight, doesn't have a brain in her head.
Who's the black woman from California?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she has a history of a radical.
I mean, she's another one of these.
They want you closer to the mic again, Pat.
You know, she's into Scientology and she's into all kinds of weird stuff.
I don't think there's anybody on the left that has any ideas other than we hate Donald Trump.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's going to take more than that.
And let's face it, you saw the other day, Joe Biden was out there and they said, what would you do Yeah, isn't that great?
He doesn't know what Trump's even doing.
I mean, look, he's totally incompetent.
He has lost his mind, literally.
He has no ideas.
He doesn't know what Trump's even doing.
I mean, look, he's totally incompetent.
He has lost his mind literally.
Literally, he has lost his mind.
And he was incompetent before he lost his mind.
That's right.
And he's also a pervert.
And it's so easy to establish, you know, when from Delaware, Christopher Coons was sworn in the Oval Office by Joe Biden.
He leaned over to his daughter standing there.
It was picked up by the mic.
I heard it when he happened.
And he said, do you have any idea how horny it makes me to be standing next to a 13 year old girl?
Pat, all you gotta do is run that commercial and he's dead!
He's done!
He's done!
Stick a fork in him, he's done!
Yeah, there's not a woman on the planet That would vote for him, right?
Once they hear that.
I think he would be so easy to turn into toast.
In my opinion, he's already toast.
And you know, he lied and lied and lied about his own background in the past.
He told people he graduated, you know, in the top half of his class, that he had a full scholarship, that he'd been nominated, he was the best student in political science.
It was all false.
It was all bullshit.
And he was called out about it at the time.
He's run for president three times, you know, before South Carolina.
Joe Biden, in running for president over 32 years, had never won a single caucus or a single primary.
Wow.
Well, you know, Joe Biden for years, I think he still says it, that the guy or the person that was driving the car in the accident where his wife died.
Yeah.
He's been saying that they were a drunk driver for years, and that's just not true.
Matter of fact, his wife was the one that caused the accident.
Really?
Yeah, he's been... Can you expand on that?
Well, I've read that the other driver, he's been saying the other driver was drunk, and that that was never proven.
It's just another one of those stories that he's put out there that has no basis in fact.
Look that up.
Yeah, that's where he and Elizabeth Warren are birds of a feather.
I mean, she concocts everything.
She's just disgusting, too.
You know, all these people, it's really sad that none of them can make an argument that Anybody in America cares about or, you know, will follow.
These people are soulless.
I don't see Joe Biden as anything but a sellout.
He's just a soulless guy that is desperate to, you know, become president.
I just don't buy anything he says.
You know, when I was growing up in Southern California as a kid, we had this assistant professor at UCLA by the name of Angela Davis, who was, you know, the leading radical of her time, or certainly the one who received the most publicity.
And she recently gave an interview where she was asked about Biden, and she said, well, we're supporting Biden for president, not because he's the best candidate, but because he's the easiest for us to manipulate, that he's the most responsive to pressure to promote our anti-racism agenda.
Well, Angela Davis, another, you know, Black Panther, right?
Yeah, I think she may have been.
Yes, yes.
You remember James Baldwin?
Yes.
He was a real intellectual, though.
Baldwin was a real intellectual.
He wrote about her.
You know, I actually liked Baldwin a lot.
I liked his story.
Grew up in Harlem.
I think he wound up writing for the New York Times.
Yeah, yeah.
Which was then, actually, in the past, a distinguished newspaper, but today I refer to it as the Langley Newsletter.
It's not suitable to line your garbage can.
Well, you know, what newspaper is anymore, you know?
Your blog has more truth on it in six stories, six articles, than the New York Times does with a hundred.
Honestly.
Well, it is stunning.
It is stunning how once great paper has turned into, you know, toilet paper.
Well, Jim, you know, what we're doing is every bit as important as what those flakes at the New York Times are doing.
And they're all imploding.
Did you see, you know, you've got that writer or editor at the New York Times that just left, and she said, I can't work here anymore.
I'm a liberal, but I'm not liberal enough.
I'm more of a centrist.
And they drove her out.
And did you see at MSNBC what a Lawrence O'Donnell's Producers just quit yesterday and she said I can't work here anymore because we can't Tell the truth anymore.
Yeah, it's all propaganda.
MSNBC is propaganda 24-7.
It's shocking.
CNN is a close second.
And on Fox, it's really only a small number.
Tucker, number one.
And he has had the highest ratings of most viewers in the first quarter.
Four million, Pat.
He's averaged four million, the first time in history.
Then Hannity is close behind, and Laura is also very good.
I actually think Laura is better than Sean.
But Sean has access to Trump.
Right.
I do like Laura better as well.
But there's just a handful of them.
And Fox, did you see James Murdoch?
Didn't he just leave Fox Board of Directors?
That may be, yeah.
Yeah, he said that Fox is no longer, you know, doing what he said.
Well, I'm hearing really stupid stuff on other shows on Fox.
I mean, it's embarrassingly bad, because I tell everyone the only program worth watching is Tucker.
I even set up this show to be from 8 to 10 Central, because Tucker's on from 7 to 8, so I could be sure to catch Tucker In relation to this show, and very often I'm getting some important coverage from him before I come on the air, just as was the case tonight.
Right, right.
So few shows, and shows like yours, you know, they've got to continue.
I'm just worried about this net censorship.
My God.
Yeah.
People keep talking about doing an executive order.
While they were doing those hearings the other day, at the same time, the same day, they were banning sites on Facebook and YouTube, and they're just dumping sites right and left.
I know it.
They're going at it whole hog.
And it's all violative of the original agreements under which they were given their rights to take advantage of the airwaves, which, after all, belong to the public.
on the ground that they'd serve as neutral platforms analogous to libraries.
They'd let everyone publish their own book, put up their own video, regardless of their point of view, absent censorship, and they've reversed themselves totally, 100%, and they are just taking down sites and blogs and videos right and left.
It is a disgrace.
Well, we're living in strange times.
You know, anybody that hadn't read 1984, we're living it right now, man.
I mean, it's not going to get better unless, you know, unless we get some help and Trump has got to get some of this done.
We got a suggestion here that Tucker would make a great vice presidential nominee with Donald Trump.
I really think Cynthia would be the right guy for now.
Tucker does, however, have a great political future ahead of him.
I do believe that 100%.
Yeah, I do too.
I'm from Indiana and I can't stand Mike Pence.
Yeah.
My wife noticed that Pence wife won't let him out of her sight.
She believes he's gay and that he's going to wander into a men's room and do things he shouldn't be doing that might be caught by the wrong party.
Well, there are some people that, are you familiar with Field McConnell?
Yes.
Okay, Field was working with Timothy, oh, I can't think of his last name, He's from Minnesota, and they've been working on this child abduction stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
And this guy says that he believes Mike Pence has been involved in this stuff.
In child trafficking and sex abuse?
Yes.
Pedophilia?
Yes, he and his wife.
And I think that's why Field McConnell you know, was put in jail.
Has he ever gotten out?
I remember I wrote something in support of his, you know, that this was a completely improper charge and incarceration on his behalf.
And one of his supporters who reached out to me was most appreciative, but I'm not current about his latest status.
A comment here that Tucker's too smart for run for office.
He's doing such a valuable job as a political commentator.
He really cuts through the crap.
He reminds me a lot of you, Pat, because he just doesn't put up with bullshit.
Right.
Right.
So I think in a truly kindred spirit, I do think Cynthia McKinney would be the perfect running mate for Trump.
Perfect.
I do too.
What do you think of Robert David Steele?
He does a lot of I'm quite a fan of Robert David Steele.
We've had a good amount of interaction.
I like him a lot.
And he covers a lot of bases, including that he's the legal advisor to an international panel dealing with child trafficking and pedophilia on an international scale, where, of course, Pizzagate is simply the American franchise of Pedogate.
He's another guy that Trump ought to talk to.
Yeah.
Let's face it, man.
Our FBI, Christopher Wray, I mean, I've been talking about that guy should have been fired.
Well, he never should have been hired.
But Christopher Wray, he was one of those guys that was tied in with Mueller and all those guys years ago.
Why in the hell did they put him in there?
Let me just recommend to the chat room that we're nearing the end, so if any of you have any questions for Pat or me, now is the time.
Put them in caps, and we'll pick up and talk about them.
Anything you'd like us to address that we haven't addressed already, or anything you'd like for us to elaborate upon, you're welcome.
Now is the time.
I just don't see where the Democrats can have any illusions about their winning here.
I mean, their polls are fake.
We have this staggering support from the black community that is unprecedented, and I think it's easily understood because Trump's economy has actually raised the standard of living for those at the bottom end of the wage scale.
Their wages have been rising at the fastest rate of all, and that includes poor blacks and poor Latinos.
He's also cut off the competition from illegals coming across our southern border, so they're actually able to sustain A reasonably good quality of life, which was improving under Trump, which never happened with the Democrats.
They've always just taken the black vote for granted.
Well, yeah, and that again is just annoying that Democrats have, you know, look at the history of the Democrats.
LBJ was, you know, the modern day racist.
I mean, that guy was a horrible racist.
And because the Civil Rights Act was passed while he was in office, he's given credit, but he was a horrible racist.
He called all of his black employees by the n-word.
Well, he was also the mastermind behind the assassination of JFK.
He even sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
And he stalled Jack on the Civil Rights Act, which Jack wanted to pass years before, saying the time wasn't right, because he wanted to exploit it himself after he took out JFK.
Yeah, he was that emergency manager the night before.
Oh, sure!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His girlfriend put him there, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Madeleine Duncan Brown, yeah, with whom I had a hundred conversations.
Madeleine was wonderful.
I'm going to do a long JFK show on the conspiracy guy in the near future, which is the show I do on Sundays.
Pat, we do have a question about whether you have any intel on JFK Jr.
I have a colleague Who's convinced that his death in that airplane crash, which I felt was a deliberate assassination, actually was staged, and that he's alive, and that he claims to have seen figures that appeared to be both John John and Caroline at Trump events in the background, and that he's going to merge.
I think he actually thinks that Trump might run with JFK Jr.
on his hypothesis and conjecture.
I have read that same stuff.
I read years ago an article about, a series of articles about JFK Jr.' 's fascination by Sherman Spalding.
Yeah.
Do you remember Sherman?
Yes, I do.
I love Sherman.
I was actually on his radio show before his death.
Were you?
Yeah.
He was a brilliant guy.
I started reading him in the old Spotlight back in the 70s.
My dad got the Spotlight, which ended up turning into the American Free Press.
I used to read those old articles when I was a kid by Sherman Spolnik, and I ended up becoming a member of his site back in the 90s.
It was called Cloak & Dagger.
I called there one day, I had a problem with the site, and Sherman came on the phone.
I could tell as soon as he came on.
Sure, from his voice.
Yeah.
And man, I talked to him for about an hour.
Oh, wonderful, wonderful, Pat.
About everything.
No, I'll tell you when this was.
It was in about 2000, maybe early 2000s, and he said, what do you do for a living, Pat?
And I said, I'm in the mortgage business.
He goes, oh, you're kidding.
He goes, Get out of the mortgage business as fast as you can.
And I said, why?
And he said, it's getting ready to blow up and go to hell.
I said, oh, don't tell me that.
And of course it did.
Yeah, that's fascinating.
That's fascinating.
So do you give any credence to this?
Frankly, I'm skeptical.
I did enough research on the plane crash that it all looked totally authentic to me that they withheld, you know, doing a public investigation because John John was such a cautious pilot.
He always had a co-pilot with him, although he didn't need to.
And the Carolyn and his sister were both on the plane.
They were having contentious relations at the time, but it appeared to me that they made the effort to get the co-pilot out of the plane, out of the wreckage beneath the water, before they would bring up what remained of it.
Right, right, right.
I read that explosives were put on the wing, too.
you know, it could not have been something for which he was responsible.
In fact, I believe explosives were planted in the plane actually at an airport up in Toronto.
It's a long story.
Right, right, right.
I read that explosives were put on the wing too.
And I also read that Hillary Clinton, he was going to run against Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, for the Senate, right.
So that would give Hillary a motive.
Bush W, you know, was somehow not in the scene.
And there's also the speculation that he may have wanted to get his Kennedy just as his father got JFK because George Herbert Walker Bush was actually in the Daltek supervising in anti-Castro-Cuban, who was firing a Mannlicher Garcano, the only unsilenced weapon, Pat, to create the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
And then was... Pardon me?
Now, who fired that one?
His name is Nestor Tony Escadro.
He was an anti-Castro Cuban.
But Bush was there supervising him, and when he left the building, he was arrested.
And they questioned him, but then they let him go, and he wound up back in Dealey Plaza, where Jesse Curry actually published a photograph, where I believe I was the first to identify him.
But it was clearly him.
And then we had Lansdale, Edward Lansdale, who appears to have orchestrated the event by positioning the snipers and determining the sequence of shots, not only walking past the three tramps, which was improper, where he's been identified by both Victor Krulak, an admired Marine Corps general, and, you know, Really disgusting.
the guy who actually worked for Lansdale too, and as having been there, and we have another photograph where he's waiting to speak to George Herbert Walker Bush, no doubt to congratulate themselves on the success of their assassination.
But it was Lyndon.
It was all the way with LBJ.
And then he used his buddy, Edgar, J. Edgar Hoover to cover it up.
Really disgusting.
And that thing has been laid open by, you know, great work by people like you and some great authors.
Yeah, and of course I meant Fletcher Prouty was the other.
It turned out that Lansdale had an odd walk and he had a very distinctive ring.
And when he got the two of them, Prouty and Krulock, identifying You know, there's no doubt about the identity.
And Lansdale was notorious for having run the Phoenix program in Vietnam, taking out these village leaders who were sympathetic to Ho Chi Minh.
I mean, he was a ruthless guy.
Right, right.
Yeah, I'll tell you, man.
It's amazing that the full story hadn't come out.
It's amazing that people still are out there that believe the official story.
Oh, it's completely insane.
Completely insane.
I just did a show actually last Sunday about fake news issues of identity where I begin with Lee Oswald proving how there was a dispute about the identity of a figure in the Alton Six photograph, the most important photograph taken during the assassination, peering out that looked a lot like Oswald.
We'd actually identified him in terms of his height, weight, build shirt and T-shirt as the same as Lee when he was arrested, the same height, weight, build shirt and T-shirt.
In fact, they were so self-conscious about his having been caught in the photograph, they had him take off this outer shirt, which is a long-sleeved, richly worn shirt that actually had been brought back from Russia.
And they did his mugshot in a T-shirt To try to obfuscate the difference, where we had that confirmed by Larry Rivera, who's done just brilliant work.
He's mastered the principles of photogrammetry, which is the application of mathematics to the study of photographs.
And he's created gifts for both the government's preferred choice, Billy Lovelady, who himself said it was odd they'd be confused because he was 2 to 3 inches shorter, 15 to 20 pounds heavier.
And he'd actually been called in by the FBI on the 29th of February 1964, wearing the shirt he wore on that occasion, and it was a red and white vertically striped short-sleeved shirt, nothing at all like that, on the man in the doorway.
So Larry created GIFs, and you can see that man in the doorway and Lee Oswald are one and the same.
All the features fall into place.
And when he does the same for Billy Lovelady, the nose is wrong, the jaw is wrong, the ears is wrong.
But we knew already from the height, weight, the build, the shirt, and the t-shirt that it couldn't have been Billy.
Yeah.
So, I mean, which means, of course, that since he was in the doorway as the motorcade passed by, he not only cannot have been The lone demented gunman, but cannot have been one of the shooters.
Well, there actually turned out to have been eight shooters.
This was Lyndon.
He never left anything to chance.
And I identified six of them and only Domogard, the seventh with which I agree.
The most recent discovery is one opposite the grassy knoll.
There was a single tree there.
And I've now seen two photographs of a gunman with his rifle from two different sources.
One Rick Russo.
And the other, Ed Tetreault, both have photographs of the gunman.
So he's the only one we haven't identified.
But get this, Pat.
Each of them came from one of the groups that was sponsoring the assassination.
So you had a Dallas deputy sheriff, you had an Air Force expert, you had a Dallas cop who was tied to the CIA, you had Lyndon Johnson's personal hitman, you had a mob shooter, you had the anti-Castro Cuban I mentioned before, and you even had a representative of Israel.
I mean, I'm telling you, it was a nasty piece of work. - The only clear fingerprint they found in the crow's nest was Mack Wallace.
- Right, he apparently helped to arrange it.
He was actually on the opposite side of the building firing at John Connolly in the mistaken belief that it was Ralph Yarborough.
Lyndon had a huge fight with JFK that morning trying to get Connolly out in Yarbrough in, but Jack overrode him on the ground that the chief executive of the state ought to ride with the chief executive of the United States.
And it was too late to let the shooters know that it wouldn't be Yarbrough, but actually it had the effect of obfuscating the politics because no one would have assumed that Lyndon would allow John Connolly, who was one of his cronies and his campaign manager, to have fallen who was one of his cronies and his campaign manager, to have fallen You see grim visage on Connolly knowing he's going to be in the motorcade and a potential target.
And, of course, he was hit, but, of course, nonfatally.
Yeah, I remember Jim Rothstein got...
You ever read anything by him?
Oh, sure.
Yeah, I've interviewed him about this.
He actually arrested the shooter who was at the intersection of the Triple Underpass and the Grassy Knoll, Frank Sturgis, who may have been the best shot in the world at the time when he was coming to New York to kill Marita Lawrence, who'd actually been a mistress of Castro and knew a great deal about the assassination.
So she couldn't testify before the HSCA.
And when he broke into her apartment, Rothstein put his gun into Sturgis's mouth, his partner at Sturgis's chest, and they took him into custody.
And as a throwaway line, he said to him, nice shooting.
And Sturgis said he shot him because he felt he'd abandoned the brigade at the Bay of Pigs and that he was a traitor to the country.
Yeah, didn't he wait in the bushes out in front of a building when he finally got him?
I think he got him as he entered the apartment of Marita Lawrence.
Yeah, he was hiding in the bushes out in front of a building.
It's crazy.
Pat, it's been wonderful having you on, my friend.
It's just been a real pleasure.
I really like your work.
I want you to keep sending me your blogs.
I look forward to publishing more of them.
It's just been a delight.
Any final words you'd like to share with our audience?
Well, you know, I'll tell you, moving into the election, you know, I hope people get out and vote against these traitors.
That's all the Democrat Party Has lost their way and we've got to get Trump back in.
And I've had a lot of problems with Trump, as you probably know.
He's not perfect, but he's so much, there's no alternative.
And I reiterate, if he weren't doing serious damage to the deep state, they wouldn't go into these extraordinary extreme measures to defeat him.
I agree.
I agree.
And, you know, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing and I hope that you keep doing what you're doing because what you're doing is so important and I've been following you for a long time.
Man, I'm just thrilled to be here with you, man.
Well, I'm so glad to have you here, Pat.
This is Jim Fetzer on the Fetz Presents.
Patrick McShea, a sensational guy.
Read his stuff.
You'll find his blogs many places, including State of the Nation, which has been publishing truly important work, and on my blog.
So I think... Operation Disclosure.
OperationDisclosure.blogspot.
They wrote a lot of my stuff.
OperationDisclosure.blogspot.
OK, terrific.
So thank you all for being here.
And on Thursday, I'll have another very special guest for you.
I look forward to your return.
Thanks for being here.
Thanks, Jim.
Pat, just terrific.
That was great.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, it was excellent.
You are very, very good.
And you'll see the quality is going to be better from the Zoom.
What we have is side-by-side going out over the internet.