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Real Deal Reports (17 June 2020) with Mike Bara in Seattle
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This is Jim Fetzer in Madison with Mike Baer in Seattle while Dean Ryan continues his effort to relocate.
We have a number of stories for you to share today.
President Trump has signed a police reform executive order.
Entitled Safe Policing for Safe Communities, acknowledges instances of police abuse and brutality and the negative effect it has on the community, establishes a national certification and credentialing system for law enforcement agencies, a federal database to track officers credibly accused of wrongdoing, discourages use of chokeholds unless an officer's life is in danger, and encourages Congress to pass further reforms.
These are incredible people, the president said about the police.
It's so sad talking about the black people who died.
So many of these families lost their loved ones in deadly interaction with police.
You know, all Americans born by your side.
Meanwhile, the Democrats slammed the GOP form bill before they'd even seen it.
This is par for the course, Mike.
And of course, all of this is over a relatively incidental, totally uncommon event, which has been magnified all out of proportion by massive reporting.
This is called anecdotal evidence.
The statistical simply overwhelms and shows the problem is nothing like it's being made out to be.
Your thoughts, Mike?
Well, you know, again, somebody made a very valid point, I thought, which is that why is it that there are police reform bills introduced, but there's not any mention of the responsibility of the person being arrested?
Now, in the George Floyd case, it's a completely different story, but in the case of this guy, Brooks, that was, I think, completely justifiably shot and killed by police in Atlanta, You know, I mean, again, all the guy has to do is cooperate with the police and he's not dead.
You know, it's like, it's just absolute insanity.
When is somebody going to say, why don't you take responsibility for your own life?
Don't resist arrest.
And what does that even mean?
You can only use a chokehold if your life is in danger.
By that time, for a police officer who's got a gun in his holster, it might even be too late.
If a guy's reaching for your gun, trying to take it away from you or has a gun, when do we decide if a police officer's life is in danger?
It's all subjective, it's all based on politics, and it's all, you know, exactly the same kind of circumstances we've had the last two or three weeks.
Now, were the police officers' lives in danger in the George Floyd case?
Obviously not.
Were their lives in danger in the Atlanta situation at the Wendy's?
I think obviously so.
But again, the cops are being charged because of the political environment.
I mean, to me, all this does is it's sort of window dressing.
It pretends to address the issue, but it really doesn't.
And it's not really going to make any difference.
As long as you allow rioters to loot and riot with impunity and not be prosecuted and not go to jail and not be shot for looting, which is the way we used to do it, You know, you're going to continue to have these problems.
I don't see how this reform executive order or either of the upcoming so-called reform bills do anything but simply address the issue in a very superficial and insignificant way.
What we need to do is strengthen the police departments while at the same time holding them more accountable for bad cops.
Those things could be done, but this executive order nor any of these proposed legislations I don't think do anything about either one of those issues.
Well, we actually have more reporting on the issue.
Seattle Council bans police use of chokeholds and crowd control weapons.
This is talking about tear gas, pepper spray, and several other crowd control devices.
A 9-0 vote came amid frustration with the Seattle Police Department.
I don't think the police are very happy about this.
In fact, it's historically shown that the use of tear gas can often be a less lethal way of dispersing a crowd without having to go hands-on, without using our riot batons and so forth.
So they're actually You know, plain amateur police.
I mean, law enforcement are trained.
They know what the hell they're up against.
These city councils have no idea.
They're guided by an ideology that bears faint resemblance to reality.
Meanwhile, Omar is confirming that she wants to get rid of the police, that they're rotten to the core.
This is simply insanity.
It means that burglars, the robbers, the killers, the rapists are going to have free reign.
Here's a study from the Journal of Public Economics.
This is way back when, in 2019, showing more cops, less crime.
We actually need more police out there.
And Mike, I'm just dumbfounded by the prospect that Mayor de Blasio is getting rid of 600 undercover cops.
Those are the guys that are most effective in anticipating crimes and breaking them up.
So this is just stupid to the max.
Well, he's probably doing it because he himself is involved in a lot of criminal activities.
And what we found out in the last few years since the election of Donald Trump is just how corrupt our governments are at every level, including mayors, governors.
A lot of them are on the tape from the Chinese government.
So of course you're going to end up with these guys taking stands to weaken law enforcement because it's law enforcement who potentially, if they're not caught up, could be investigating these people.
These people are all, look, I'm not saying Republicans aren't corrupt.
I'm saying you have a better chance of them not being corrupt than you do with a Democrat.
All the Democrats are completely corrupt.
They're all bought out.
They're all in politics in order to make a fortune, retire as millionaires.
That's what this is all about.
The thing is, Jim, you look at the use of tear gas.
Tear gas is by far a more effective means of dispersing crowds than going in, again, with the clubs, batons, the shields.
But the Democratic politicians, they want this.
They want open conflict.
They want beatdowns.
They want people to be killed, because that strengthens their argument for weakening the police, which is the ultimate objective, and leaving the United States in a lawless situation in major cities, which allows communists Warlords to take over these cities, which is what the ultimate goal is.
So of course they're going to want to take away the non-lethal weapons like the rubber bullets and the tear gas.
It's because that's what they want.
We can't delude ourselves into saying these people are stupid.
They're not stupid.
They have a plan.
They have an agenda.
The agenda is to weaken law enforcement in this country.
So not only can they get away with war, but they can import their communist caliphates and their Muslim caliphates.
Omar wants the police gone so she can implement Sharia law in her district in Minnesota.
That's what she wants.
That's what the objective is.
And for us to continue to delude ourselves that these people, oh, they're good-hearted, but they're just misguided.
That's wrong.
They're enemies of the people.
They're enemies of the United States.
They're enemies of capitalism.
They're enemies of freedom.
They're enemies of everything this country has stood for and was created for.
And we have to oppose them and stop them now while we still can.
Well, it's surprising how blatant they're being about some of these issues.
Meanwhile, Tech Tyranny, two right-wing news sites, really conservative, have been banned by Google for violations over Black Lives Matter protest articles.
This is like being banned for saying all lives matter rather than only Black Lives Matter.
The NBC reports too far right.
News websites have been banned from receiving revenue.
They've been demonetized for unsubstantiated claims when reporting on the recent BLM George Floyd protest.
No, we're not talking about white supremacist website, but Federalist and Zero Hedge.
I gotta tell you, Zero Hedge, Mike, is one of the most responsible out there.
I use stuff from Zero Hedge all the time.
I find them incredibly reliable.
And of course, Federalist is actually a distinguished conservative website.
Yeah, this is just lunatic!
Is it wrong to note that in the reporting of this news they've used the derogatory term far-right to label both websites while NBC News would likely label themselves as an objective news organization when they are far-left?
I mean, this is embarrassingly bad.
Sounds like both sides were doing something wrong, they make it out.
Well, what was it they did?
The violations they were being demonetized for were from comments.
Mike!
Comments!
My God, how bad is that?
Meanwhile, NBC News is taking a victory lap after their successful effort to target their competition.
Within the NBC report, however, they implicate Google in large-scale antitrust activities.
Apparently, NBC has a self-admitted division within its news organization specifically focused on eliminating There's another admission that's worth highlighting.
NBC requests Google to target and remove revenue from their competition in alignment of self-serving interests based on ideology.
One example of unlawful antitrust violation taking place.
There's another admission that's worth highlighting.
Google admitted it takes into account the content and a website including comments.
This is just so outrageous, Mike, just completely outrageous.
Every American ought to have the right to express whatever their view may be, no matter how outrageous.
We have more, of course, who are going to attack the Department of Justice for even looking at these matters.
You've come up with an excellent graph, I think, Mike, that illustrates a rather crucial issue.
There are certain states where no voter ID is required, and guess which states those are?
That's right, all the Democrat states where they want to steal the election again and again and again.
Mike, nice catch.
Your thoughts?
Well again, you know, this is an alignment of anti-American far-left organizations and tech giants Which need to be brought down.
I mean we are at the point where this needs to be stopped.
This, you know, basically demonetizing somebody for comments made by listeners or viewers.
In the comments section is about as un-American as it gets and it's not going to stop until the Department of Justice actually starts suing these people and taking away their monopolies and shutting them down.
How long would this crap last?
Why does NBC still have press credentials at the White House?
Why does CNN still have press credentials?
If you're going to try to make the point that these news sources are corrupted, the point's been made.
I mean, all you have to do is make a bullet point list of all the times CNN has lied about the Trump administration and Donald Trump in the last four years.
It's like they had to retract 17 or 18 stories and there's dozens of other stories that they never retracted that are completely false.
Just make a list and show everybody and say, this is why CNN is no longer allowed at the White House.
And sue these people into oblivion and force them to give equal time to all different viewpoints.
If that was under, if Google was under that pressure, if they were forced to give equal time and were not allowed to cut off the revenue to organizations like Zero Hedge that are doing a great job of getting some actual truth out there, Then there wouldn't be a problem at all.
Everybody would be fine, and the only way you can do that is sue them if they do anything else.
They're only letting money go.
It's like Black Lives Matter.
I mean, I'm watching the Premier League game is on today, and all the players are forced to wear Black Lives Matter on the back of their jersey.
Oh, it's a yellow card.
On who?
On Aguero?
No, it's on Black Lives Matter.
Because that's the name on the back of his jersey.
This is a fundraising, semi-terrorist, domestic terrorist fundraising organization for the Democratic Party.
So people are basically having guns held to their head, social media guns, to support the Democrats by giving them money because the Democrats can't raise money from regular, everyday Americans who don't want their agenda.
I mean, it's absolute insanity.
This stuff has to be stopped.
The only way it's going to be stopped is with aggressive action against These organizations and when is it going to happen?
is one I came across yesterday.
And there is a very definite coordination between votes with no voter ID laws at all and blue states.
I mean, California, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, these are states in which the races were very close, but you can't, well, not California, but you can't tell how much of the victory margin, which is probably all of it, is simply illegal voting.
So, again, it's not a coincidence.
If you impose a voter ID law, suddenly this country is going to get a whole lot redder really, really quick.
And I'm not saying that's a good thing, because you've got a lot of corrupt Republicans, but it's better than the situation we're going through.
It's not an accident that these two charts are pretty much in alignment.
Yeah, good points.
Good points, Mike.
And by the way, I think your example of Atlanta was a very good one to show that Resisting arrest like that.
I mean, it was a physical altercation with the cops.
It's a really bad idea.
I mean, they have the legal responsibility to enforce the law.
The guy should have been compliant.
He'd probably still be alive.
Well, yeah, he would still be alive.
And now these two police officers are going to be prosecuted for doing their job and following the rules.
God, come on.
Mike, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
The George Floyd thing appears to be completely contrived.
I don't even think the guy's dead.
I believe he showed up at his own funeral as did one or another of the Sandy Hook kids.
They just couldn't resist.
Everything about it is folk Phony, fabricated, manufactured, but this Atlanta thing seems to be a bona fide event.
The guy fell asleep in the drive-thru lane.
What are they supposed to do at Wendy's?
You know, they're not law enforcement people.
Obviously, calling the cops was the right thing to do.
And from everything I could see, the police handled the situation appropriately.
Well, me too.
And you know, Jim, there's issues with the George Floyd thing.
There's a lot of issues we've talked about in their relationship with Chauvin, whether they were working at this club that was involved in counterfeiting.
But I don't know if we have the slide, but I mean, I saw one yesterday or today where, you know, in one of the surveillance videos, he clearly has hair.
He has a fro.
And then when he's on the ground, the guy on the ground doesn't have it.
He's bald.
He's got a shaved head.
And that's pretty obvious.
And it's pretty upsetting.
And I'm just wondering, Are we ever going to get to the truth of this situation?
Oh, I think we are.
I think we are, Mike.
I believe that they were using a mannequin, which happened to be bald, and that that was a part of the catch.
Look, we got a series of stories here that are significant.
Retail sales jumped 17.7 in May as the economy reopens.
This is striking panic.
In the hearts of every Democrats, the experts had forecast a rise of 8%, so this was really actually historic.
Meanwhile, PG&E has pled guilty to the 84 wildfire deaths.
This was horrendous.
I'm sure you remember, Mike, where we had houses burned to the ground, but the surrounding flora and fauna were totally unaffected.
This appears to be a function of smart meters.
I'm fairly convinced that's what's going on.
So they're having to pay a lot of money, but no one's going to jail, even though 84 deaths were involved.
Meanwhile, the Trump Justice Department is trying to block the John Bolton book.
I'm not quite sure why they are so concerned, but I'm sure they do have good reasons.
We'll see how that plays out.
If he's using classified information that he agreed not to use, I've never been a fan of John Bolton.
I thought it was terrible he was National Security Advisor.
I was certain he tried to undermine Trump's policies, foreign policies, and I think that has proven to be the case.
Meanwhile, in this I find staggering, a new law in Virginia requires every child to be vaccinated.
Every child, Mike.
This is just god-awful.
Introduced by a Democrat, Delegate Patrick Ho from Arlington County.
The bill passed the House 51 to 44.
Before that, it had already been passed by the Senate and approved by the governor.
This is horrendous.
If I were a parent with children in Virginia, I would get the hell out.
Meanwhile, A Trump peace plan, so-called, says that hundreds of biblical sites are going to be placed under Palestinian rule.
There are some 6,000 sites of historical and archaeological imports in the area that are going to be transferred to the Palestinians.
You can bet the Israelis will oppose it.
Mike, any of those on which you have comments?
Well, yeah, I mean, quite a few of them.
The retail sales figures are really good.
That indicates people are interested in getting back and participating in an economy again, which is something we're going to need as we move into the fall.
Election season.
But Jim, you know, yesterday I got up, I switched on Stuart Varney over on Fox Business, and we were all set.
I was woken up early by my cats.
We were all set for a big, big day at the stock market tomorrow, that day.
Everything was set up for like a thousand point opening.
We were going to recover all that ground that we lost last week.
And within about 30 minutes of the markets being open and just taking off, a Federal Reserve Chairman comes up, holds a press conference, and just throws cold water on everything, trying to suppress the markets.
And I mean, these people are our enemies.
He was definitely trying to stop the market from having a huge day yesterday.
And I'm just sitting here thinking to myself, how many traitors does this guy have in his administration?
I mean, how many people who want the United States to burn As opposed to doing the right thing for its people.
Because they want to get back at the President, who's trying to clean up the mess and the corruption.
And John Bolton fits right in there.
I never understood why he hired Bolton in the first place.
Because Bolton is a neocon war monger.
I mean, he's the guy who started all this.
He wants us to go to a war with Iran.
That was his big thing.
I guess maybe he wanted a dissenting view.
Because he wanted to have an advisor, but you know I never trusted Bolton.
I think he's a he's a element of the Bush administration He's a deep stater to the core and now he's trying to put Publish a book to hurt the president in an election year and again.
I think this claim that there's Classified information in there is it's probably pushing him a bit of reaching a little bit But they're just trying to suppress the contents of his book before the election cycle which you know I don't know that I agree with but it was interesting I saw I saw Lou Dobbs' show yesterday and he was saying, you know, I've known this guy Bolton for 25 years.
I considered him a friend.
And he said, I don't recognize the person who's out here doing this.
He goes, the guy I knew had integrity.
He would never have stabbed one of his bosses in the back.
And he was openly wondering what's going on.
Well, I'll tell you what's going on, Lou.
What's going on is that all of these people are compromised.
The deep state has something on Bolton.
And they're going to use it against him unless he tells the company line.
It's really just an indication of how corrupt everything is at the top of our governmental structure.
The vaccination thing is appalling.
Absolutely appalling.
And, you know, look, the bottom line is you need to move out of the state before you let them do that to your kids.
And you need to vote for other people who you've been voting for.
It's just It's just insanity.
There's no justification for it.
And the vaccination thing, it shows you, Jim, that the agenda on vaccinations is not well-meaning.
It's evil.
Because the people who are pushing it are the ones with an evil agenda for our country.
So there must be something wrong with the vaccinations.
Or they wouldn't be forcing you to take them.
They're not forcing you to take them because they want you to be healthy.
They're forcing you to take them because it gives them some measure of control over you.
I agree, Mike, and if they work, then you take them voluntarily and protect yourself, and those of us who don't want are the foolish ones, because we're the ones who are running the risk, not they.
I must be a fool then, Jim, because I haven't had a flu vaccination in 28 years, and I haven't had the flu in 28 years, so I must be a fool.
Mike, I know.
Time after time, people have told me they got the flu vaccine and then they got the flu.
It's just like in India.
The polio vaccine paralyzed 500,000 kids.
The H1N1 flu vaccine causes brain damage.
And all these mercury and aluminum-based vaccines cause autism.
I mean, for God's sake, what's wrong with the people of Virginia?
This is just disgusting.
And I mean disgusting.
Forget what you vote for, Tim.
Forget what you vote for.
It's unbelievable, Mike.
Meanwhile, Israel increased its nuclear stockpile to 90.
90 nuclear warheads.
Now, the point I want to make is, of course, this is all informal.
Israel has never acknowledged It's vast stockpile of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons.
But it has them.
And it turns out that since the Symington Amendment was passed in 1976, the U.S.
has officially been precluded From providing foreign aid to nations with undeclared stockpiles of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons.
So in terms of American foreign policy, we should not be providing any foreign aid to Israel, but in fact we do it all the time.
Here's a report about Ariel Sharon well reflecting the attitude of the Israeli For Prime Minister in the aftermath of 9-11, when they were worried about refusing to heed insistent American requests for a ceasefire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the U.S.
against us, where Sharon became furious Turn towards Simon Perez saying, every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and we'll do that.
I want to tell you something very clear.
Don't worry about American pressure on Israel.
We, the Jewish people, control America and the Americans know it.
Meanwhile now, as the Israelis are preparing to annex the Jordan Valley, which is a very important agricultural resource, King Abdullah has snubbed his effort to phone him and so forth, which I think is an act of great courage on his part.
I regard the Palestinian-Israeli issue as the greatest human rights issue of our time.
The Jordan Valley, a resource-rich, highly strategic area, shares a lengthy border and two crossings with Jordan.
Mike, your thoughts about all of this?
Well, Jim, we kind of disagree about the Middle East.
I mean, I understand that there is a tremendous Israeli influence on our government.
There's no question about that.
In fact, I was shocked to find out how many American politicians hold dual citizenship with Israel, including people like Chuck Schumer.
But it's, to me, the situation is, you know, historically, look, the Arabs have attacked the Israelis numerous times.
All they wanted was some areas in that region, which has been theirs, or they've been there since probably 6500 BC, to have a Jewish state where they would actually have some protection.
They've been attacked repeatedly.
The Arabs have lost all of those wars.
They have ceded territory which is what happens when you lose wars.
And again, I don't really know that I believe that there's any such thing as a Palestinian.
I mean, Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.
He wasn't Palestinian.
A lot of these guys are Jordanian.
A lot of them are Lebanese.
So I don't even know what a Palestinian is.
As an Israeli citizen explained it to me once, we're Palestinians too.
We've been living there forever.
So what I would like to see is the borders to be defined.
I would really like to see Israel basically be the area that it has now, minus the Gaza Strip.
And everything on the West Bank of the Jordan River be considered Israel, where Arabs have certain rights to exist and rights to live there is fine with me.
And then everybody respect those boundaries and the problem is solved.
If some people want to call themselves Palestinian and have a self-governing state, why can't you set it up on the East Bank of the Jordan River?
Have it overseen by the Jordanians, who most of them are anyway.
To me, Jim, It's just a complete mess and I really don't see how we're going to get out of it without some decisive conflict.
The Golan Heights, technically it's Syria, but you know it's also an area where Israel can be attacked.
So if the Arabs, I believe, would stop attacking Israel on a regular basis, we might be able to have some peace, but it's got to work both ways.
Right now it's Not going to work both ways.
The Arabs are actually making the situation worse, from my perspective, because of the fact that they keep shooting rockets into Israel and things like that.
If they weren't doing that, Israel would have no excuse for some of the expansionist moves that they're making.
They would not be justified.
Well, let me just offer two or three thoughts as we proceed, which include that As I see it, the lands all belong to the Palestinians originally, and most of the present occupants, as DNA studies have shown, are actually not descendants of the tribe of Judah, but rather are Khazarians from a region now a part of Ukraine.
Which means, ironically, that since the Palestinians actually are Semites and the Israelis are not, Israel is the greatest practitioner of anti-Semitism in the world today.
In addition, Israel recently had to decide whether it was going to be a democratic state or a Jewish state.
And it declared itself to be a Jewish state where Palestinians are second-rate citizens, so it's practicing apartheid.
It's an apartheid state based upon religious but also racial grounds.
And in the third place, it appears to me pretty obvious that these attacks Are being stage managed by the Israelis to make it appear as though the Arabs are seeking to attack them when I don't think there's any reason in the world to suppose they would.
Israel, for God's sake, has the fourth most powerful army in the world and the idea of trying is ridiculous.
It is the case, however, that the last intervention in Lebanon by the Israelis was confronted by Hezbollah that fought them to a drop.
Many regarded Hezbollah as having succeeded in winning that contest.
Let me go further and then I will bring you back, Mike, to say all you want to say about this.
We know that 9-11 was really an Israeli op.
It was inspired by Israel to draw the United States into the Middle East, to take out the modern Arab state that served as a counterbalance to Israel's occupation of the entire region, and eventually to confront The Persian nation of Iran.
The war in Syria has a whole lot to do with two gas pipelines.
I would have begun commenting yesterday when you brought up Syria, but I knew it needed a further exemplification.
These are the pipelines.
There's the Iran-Iraq-Syrian pipeline versus the Qatar-Turkey Syrian pipeline.
So this is really why Syria has been in the crosshair, two conflicting pipelines, one that represents the interest of Iran that's being violently opposed by Israel among other states, and those of course who want to benefit from the Qatar-Syria-Turkey and those of course who want to benefit from the Qatar-Syria-Turkey The Meanwhile, the project for a new Middle East goes on unabated.
There's an effort here to redraw the map by creating a free Kurdistan that takes some of the most oil-rich areas Of Syria and Iraq and even Saudi Arabia to create a whole new state that would be managed by the West.
We know, of course, a disappearing Palestine.
I mean, this has been going on from the founding of Israel back in 1946.
Through 2012 and now of course much much less land is still controlled by the Palestinians where the Israelis have of course long since a plan to expand to the greater Israel.
Notice it takes a big chunk of Egypt, a lot of Saudi Arabia, all of Jordan, all of Lebanon, big part of Syria, big part of Iraq.
You cannot understand the Middle East without appreciating that this is the aspiration and goal of the Israelis And it's very, very far removed from what one might think of as a harmonious relations among the nations of the Middle East.
That's just a fiction.
Your thoughts, Mike.
Well, okay, first of all, 9-11 may have had Israeli involvement.
I don't know that that's the case.
I've heard a lot of reports to that effect.
I've seen very little evidence that I find convincing, I'll tell you that.
However, it did benefit certain people.
You have to remember, behind these governments, of course, are the bankers, who are the real people that are driving everything, that own these governments.
To me, 9-11 was forced because we needed to get the United States into a war stance because that was part of our agreement to having the bankruptcy of the United States discharged in 1999.
If you look from 1789 to 1859 to 1929 to 1999, every time you have this 70 year cycle of international bankruptcy come up for discharge, the United States has a major shift in policy.
In 1859, we had to have the Civil War to resolve what was going on where we took the states rights.
In 1929, there was the stock market crash, which created the Great Depression, which led to World War II, which led to the paying off of those debts that we had to our foreign banksters at that time.
The incident that was required was 9-11 to get the United States onto a war footing to force the Iraqi Dinar to be revalued.
All of these things play into the plan to deal with the international bankruptcy of the United States, which has been in place since 1789, so there's definitely deeper issues there.
As far as the Israeli people, yeah, a lot of their population are immigrants.
They're immigrants from Ukraine, from Europe, people where they were persecuted first by Hitler and then Stalin and then Whoever came along after that and many of them did move to Israel to be in a state where they felt like they would be safe.
Now as far as the Hezbollah thing, the 2006 invasion of Lebanon was different.
It was not what people think it was.
Remember in the lead up to the war in 2003, there was all this stuff.
Colin Powell went out and lied to the UN about the state of chemical weapons in Iraq or so we thought.
However, There were multiple reports at that time from legitimate news services, or at least well-known news services like Fox News, who said that, yeah, there were no chemical weapons in Iraq any longer because they were shipped over land into Syria, because again, they were both back party states, where Assad buried the chemical weapons in the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon.
Now when the Israelis invaded in 2006, or late 2005, after the U.S.
invasion of Iraq, they drove right up to Lebanon and they stopped right in the Bekal Valley.
So what the Israelis were doing there is they were going after the chemical weapons that they knew that Iraq did have.
that were actually buried in Lebanon.
They retrieved those chemical weapons, they destroyed them, and then they withdrew.
So I think it's a little more complex than saying Hamas defeated them.
The Israelis had a very specific target in mind, which was the Iraqi chemical weapons that were buried, weapons of mass destruction that were buried in the Baqa Valley for the eventual use on Israel.
They definitely put a stop to that.
So again, these things are a lot more complex than even we know, Jim, and we're pretty much on top of everything that's going on.
Well, certainly more complex than you suggest about 9-11.
I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in 2005.
I invited Steve Jones to be my co-chair.
We brought in experts from all over the world.
I've been flown around the world to talk and address about 9-11, organize two national conferences.
If anyone wants to understand 9-11, I highly recommend a video overview I have on Bitchute and Titan.
9-11, who was responsible and why?
And Mike, if you have a chance to take a look, I'd be very glad for us to extend our conversation about 9-11.
This was a major event in America and indeed in world history, so that's a standing invitation.
We'll return to the issue.
Meanwhile, we have some fan mail.
Spartangirl, when a reporter asked the governor about Shaz, he said he didn't know what they were talking about.
Yeah, how absurd is that?
First Floor Audio, what a delight to have people like you gentlemen speaking to reality over chaos and remarkable feats of mainstream disinformation, many thanks.
Lee G.
Luis Carlos, serious situation is similar to Venezuela.
The U.S.
wants to control oil and install a puppet government.
Meanwhile, Angie, the video was amazing yesterday.
I'm glad I got to see the truth from their own mouths.
Thank you, Mike.
Yes, it does need to be exposed worldwide.
Keep these videos coming, guys.
Much love.
Janine Garcia.
Again, Jim, the emergency issue being revoked is okay.
It now allows for any physician to use it for any patient outside of a hospital setting.
Please don't make a bigger mess out of this with misinformation.
Well, if I missed something there, I certainly am glad to be corrected because my understanding was that their emergency had allowed it to be used and taking away meant they were now siding with those opposed to hydroxychloroquine.
Here we have Norma Rosen.
Oh please, Shaz is all part of the plan.
New World Order is here and now.
It will be the next Waco event to cause more rioting.
We need more chaos to bring in the military.
Some girls.
Jim, have you disclosed who you voted for governor in the 2018 election?
Based on your past articles regarding Walker, I'm guessing you voted for Evers.
He is fully in on the scams you referred to in this broadcast.
Your comments are appreciated in advance.
And Len Shapiro, great job.
Guys, thanks.
Well, let me comment about the question about the election.
When I moved to Wisconsin from Minnesota in 2007, Wisconsin was sensational, very committed to the labor movement, very committed to education, very committed to environmental issues.
Scott Walker came in and he took 800 He basically ran down the unions.
education.
He denied $800 billion in federal aid to build a high-speed rail from Milwaukee to Madison that would have then gone on to Minneapolis.
He basically ran down the unions.
All of that was, in my opinion, deplorable.
And I, yeah, sure did, I did vote for adversities He is a former superintendent of education.
I thought he'd put education first.
He's a little weaker than I would like, but I tell you, you gotta look at the politics in each of these states.
The Republicans here have been a backward force in Wisconsin.
The Republicans, Vose and the Speaker and all that, these are not good guys in my political book.
Now, obviously I'm very concerned about the National Democratic Party, which is a complete misphrase, but that explains why in each of these elections I look at who appears to be the best candidate for the situation and the time and vote accordingly.
So there's your answer.
Mike, your thoughts?
Well, yeah, you know, I mean, we've all, I guess, had votes we regretted.
I actually voted for John McCain in 2008.
Knowing what I know, well, just because I thought he was the lesser of two evils, but knowing what I know now, I'm ashamed of that.
I'm very solid that I did not vote for Mitt Romney in 2012.
In fact, having to choose between Obama and Romney, I didn't vote at all, so I'm pleased by that.
And I think the really important story there is hydroxychloroquine.
So if it's true that what the FDA really did is to basically release it so that it can be used under any circumstances.
That is obviously a very positive thing and one which I did not catch yesterday in a lot of my reviews of what the policy change was.
Certainly it was spun by the media into a negative thing about hydroxychloroquine but we all know whose agenda they're pushing and you know what What their perspective is going to be on everything.
I'm all 100% for hydroxychloroquine, as it ought to be obvious.
I even have a prescription for it for myself, should I be in need.
I believe in it 100%.
My interpretation was the FDA was taking an action that would further restrict access to HGQ and that was why I was concerned.
If it's the opposite of that, great.
Yeah, let's hope that's right.
As far as my final thoughts, America is giving us a far-left future.
We're going to have figures like Lenin and Trotsky and Barack Obama on Mount Rushmore.
We're going to ban old movies.
I mean, even Bogey?
My God!
Down with patriarchy!
Logic is racist, so they're pulling down the thinker?
And we're gonna have a name change?
Black Lives Matter Football League?
I mean, it's appalling what's going on here, not to mention the loss of internet free speech.
Catastrophic!
This is very, very bad.
Meanwhile, I want us all to appreciate that we can find more of mine at jamesfetzer.org, on Twitter at Jim Fetzer, Mike Beyrer Official, Dean Ryan TV.
Mike, it's always a pleasure, even when we have our disagreements, to be here with you, my friend.
So, I'm glad.
And we'll continue these debates and discussions and dig deeper, be more thorough in detail.
Any final thoughts?
Yeah, no, I agree.
I think we should do a special.
We should start doing some specials about 9-11, the moon landing, the Middle East situation, on things that we debate about.
We should have an open crosstalk about them.
We'll make those specials.
Maybe we'll put them in for Saturday or Sunday on the weekends.
We'll post those.
Let's get that going.
Let's poll everybody.
Everybody that sees this video.
If you think it's a good idea for us to have these open discussions about our various positions then great let's do a few of these 30 or 42 minute specials or something like that Jim and tonight don't forget it's my it's Wednesday so it's my Tell the Truth Wednesday call-in chat show by all means come by my YouTube channel for my live stream at 5 p.m.
Pacific 8 p.m.
Eastern come on in ask me any question you want we'll do the live stream Q&A tonight for about 45 minutes.
Excellent, excellent, excellent, Mike.
And by the way, for those who are unaware, I do have this new show, The Conspiracy Guy, on Sundays.
It's 8 to 10 Central, 9 to 11 Eastern.
But if you go to jimtheconspiracyguy.com, you can see already the first three shows on coronavirus, on the Second Amendment, On gun control, but also on the New Zealand shooting, which is a fascinating exercise in absurdity, because basically it was a cartoon.
And my latest show will be up there very shortly.
This is Jim Fetzer in Madison, and thanking Mike Mara for his excellent reporting, and all of you for watching.
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