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The Raw Deal (3 May 2020) with Jack Mullen and Stephanie Sledge

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	When you attend a funeral, it is sad to think that sooner or later those you love will do the same for you.
	And you may have thought it tragic not to mention other adjectives to think of all the weeping they will do.
	But don't you worry.
	No more ashes, no more sackcloth And an armband made of black cloth We'll someday never more adorn a sleeve For if the bomb that drops on you Gets your friends and neighbors too There'll be nobody left behind to grieve And we will all go together when we go
	That is to know.
	Universal bereavement, an inspiring achievement.
	Yes, we all will go together when we go.
	We will all go together when we go.
	All suffused with an incandescent glow.
	No one will have the endurance to collect on his insurance.
	Lloyds of London will be loaded when they go.
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal.
	Today we have part two of a two-part program.
	We began Friday with Jack Mullen, then to be accompanied with Stephanie Sledge, who was unable to join us then, but she is with us today, and Jack is with her as well.
	So that Stephanie will present for the first hour, and during the second, we'll take calls for both Jack and Stephanie and me.
	So, stand by for the sequel as we proceed.
	Meanwhile, Stephanie, welcome to The Raw Deal.
	Thank you, Jim.
	I'm very honored to be here with you, and honored to be here with Jack as well.
	Well, I'm just delighted to have you here, Steph, and I want you to tell us all about your video, what inspired you to put it together, what just happened, the coronavirus takedown of America 2020.
	Give us what was behind proceeding to put this together.
	Well, what inspired me to put this together was the national emergency that just happened, And I guess during the process of the first couple of weeks of the announcement of, you know, the coronavirus lockdown, that I was seeing a bigger picture.
	And I do, you know, I normally do a lot of writing.
	I don't do a whole lot of videos.
	But in this case, I felt like it was very important.
	There was a lot of really good information that was coming out, and I felt like it was Very important to do a video article about what was happening because it seemed that the media was taking control of, you know, everything.
	Everybody was logging into Facebook, looking at live YouTubes and everything that was coming out about it.
	And so it inspired me to put the video together so that I could tell the story through my eyes of what just happened.
	And so That's what I did.
	I put it together and I think it's a very good video explaining what really happened.
	I'm really, I'm really glad we have you here.
	And of course, you are the editor of the Government Rag, which is a website where you're regularly publishing.
	Jack, I know, is one of your major contributors as well.
	And you do a lot to expose corruption and malfeasance in the United States, where this is very much in that very same vein, where I'm so glad we need more muckrakers in the United States, Steph, and I'm glad you're among them.
	Where shall we begin?
	Well, I guess we begin by telling America what really happened.
	And yeah, at the very beginning of the video, I do put a portion of the Declaration of Independence in there.
	And it's because, you know, I wanted people to think about what it was that our founding forefathers, you know, must have gone through And, you know, it was a memory that was left in writing, you know, even all these years later for us to remember.
	And so, in this particular screen, you know, when the government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundations on principles and organizing its powers in such form as them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness and this is where we're at.
	We are exactly at the same stage that our founding forefathers were when they wrote the Declaration of Independence during the Revolutionary War and so I felt like I needed to put that in there so that people understand and listening to it is
	You know, it has a new meaning in your mind realizing that that message is passed forward to today and those people like myself and you and Jack, you know, we have a connection to the past and these words are very important and I believe that they're very important for many Americans.
	And of course, what's most important too, I think, is it was a prelude to the Constitution, the adaptation of which was intended to guarantee the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to every American citizen.
	Free from all forms of governmental intervention that were not associated with due process, where the Constitution precludes the government from depriving us of life, liberty, or property absent due process.
	We seem to have had a gigantic reversal here.
	With the present state of affairs, we're just as the two physicians from Bakersfield observed, in a quarantine, in a situation of a pandemic, you quarantine the sick, you don't quarantine the healthy.
	It's parallel to the presumption that we're all innocent until we're found guilty.
	It's as though we're now all guilty until we're found innocent.
	Steph, I think you put your finger on a vital aspect of the situation we find ourselves in today.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And we are facing a new world order.
	And I know that, you know, you know, many researchers and journalists such as yourself and myself and Jack and many other people, we have been talking about this new world order that's been forming for, you know, I mean, well over a decade at least.
	And, you know, with the coronavirus, what we've seen is it was a lockdown on a worldwide level.
	And, you know, there is a new order forming and the New World Order is definitely connected directly to, you know, health.
	And so what we're seeing really is, you know, George H.W.
	Bush, you know, a New World Order, we will be successful.
	He was right.
	I mean, they knew what they were doing.
	This has been planned out for a very long time.
	And, you know, we're seeing the results of that now.
	And, you know, they were baby steps, you know.
	And, of course, from 9-11, you know, we've seen things getting tightened down as far as national security.
	And we, you know, have to come to the realization on a worldwide level that this coronavirus lockdown was exactly Um, you know, it was a, I believe that it was a test, um, to see, you know, who, who will follow orders, um, who's not going to comply, and who, you know, is going to comply.
	But also too, it was more than that.
	It was, uh, Event 201 has been exposed, and So, you know, this is a direct new world.
	The New World Order is directly connected to, you know, the World Health Organization.
	And so here we are, we're experiencing basically a business plan that they wrote.
	I think that's a nice way to put it.
	A business plan, all top-down control, totally authoritarian, where individual freedom and liberty has virtually disappeared completely, using vaccinations as one of the modes of control.
	It appears to be a social merit system they want to introduce, where the vaccines and associated ID are going to become their way of identifying us.
	They may use a vaccine As a way of injecting us into our system, and then it seems to me they can not only control our moods, but if they're so disposed, take us out by whim.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, I mean, it's definitely.
	What is your take, Jack?
	What do you think about that?
	I was just looking at George there, thinking about how fruitful he was in those couple of years.
	Sorry, in early 1990s, it was September 11th, 1991, that he coined that term and made it famous, a new world order, and talked about, you know, a responsible United Nations would be involved with this grand plan.
	It was in that same year, March 5th of 1991, that H.W.
	signed into law Education Day, Public Law 102, With the 102nd Congress that basically brought the Noahide laws into the U.S.
	legal system.
	And, you know, for many, most people don't know probably what the Noahide laws are, but that's something that should be investigated.
	And it's just interesting that this individual, you know, had so much input in the destruction of the United States that we're now seeing The fruits of his labor today, and soon we'll see the effects of the Noahide laws as well.
	Jack, just to add about the Noahide laws, while a number of them are perfectly reasonable and even overlap with the Ten Commandments, there are others that in fact have the role of excluding Christianity among other religions.
	Would you care to comment?
	I mean, just to add that couple of points that make a key difference here.
	Well, that's the primary difference.
	Now, there are a couple of things to remember.
	The Nohad Laws are seven laws, and we're told that they are based on something that Moses was given, but they're actually from the Talmud.
	And they look a little bit like the Ten Commandments, but they are not, because they have maybe as many as 70 subsections, but you don't see those.
	They're not presented.
	But the thing you're talking about is the The primary concern for Christians is that it makes it a capital crime to be a Christian because you're identified as an idolater or an idler, however you would say that.
	And what that means is that you are worshiping an idol over the God that you're required to worship.
	And so you would have another God before him.
	And that is not permissible and it will be dealt with severely as any violation of any of the seven Noahide laws will result in your death and it'll be by decapitation and that's not it's indisputable you can go to Chabad.org which is the organization Chabad Lubavitch and you can do a search for punishment for Noahide laws violation and they'll tell you straight up decapitation so
	I think, you know, that's for Christians and Christian Zionists, that's something they need to be concerned with, especially when their president is 100% on board with no high laws.
	He signed them into effect again this, a few days ago in April.
	Did he really, Jack?
	Yes, he did.
	Donald Trump reaffirmed the Nagahide laws here in April?
	In April, yes.
	I think it was April 23rd.
	I could look it up real quick if you like.
	What in God's name is he doing making such a move?
	I mean, that seems completely outrageous.
	Every president since Ronald Reagan Jimmy Carter, I'm sorry, has done so.
	Now, there's seven locations of the no-hide laws that have been injected into the U.S.
	Code of Law, and I don't know where all seven are at the moment, but I've seen reputable people who really follow the no-hide laws, and you know, so I'm familiar with at least three, but this education thing became U.S. 102 In 1991, but before that, they gave lip service to it.
	They would bring the rabbis into the presidential office and talk about the Rebbe and Schneerson, which they believe was the actual Moshiach, and that he would be and will be reincarnated into the whatever Moshiach shows up in the future.
	Every single president has upheld those Education Day laws, and Trump has done it every single year since he's been in office.
	And he just did it like a week ago.
	If you do a little quick search, you could find all of the pictures of him standing in front of the Revees reaffirming the Noahide laws and making comments about them, etc.
	But he actually signed something.
	It's just not Trump, but Trump is not somebody who's going to oppose it, because Trump is a Zionist himself.
	He's a rabid Zionist, and you can see that by almost every position he takes.
	Well Steph, we have a picture of the rabid Zionist right here now in your slide set.
	Why don't you tell us about his remarks about worrying about due process later.
	Take the guns first and then go to court.
	I was really shocked when he said that.
	Dianne Feinstein was thrilled.
	I found it appalling.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, that's why I put it in the video because, you know, there's a lot of Trump supporters and You know, I know at the beginning of, you know, Trump's campaign that, you know, that so many people in America, we all were very, very excited about Trump.
	You know, we wanted him to be the real president, somebody that was really going to drain the swamp and believe every single word.
	But the thing is, is over time, you know, Trump would say little things at a time.
	Which most of the nation would ignore it or they would have an excuse for, but one of the things that bothered me the most is that, you know, Trump Trump did say that we're going to worry about due process later and that that was, you know, not only with the guns, but I had also written an article.
	It was called Trump's words.
	We're going to worry about due process later emerges after the Pittsburgh shooting.
	And the Pittsburgh shooting was a gentleman, and right offhand, I can't remember his name, but he went to a Jewish synagogue, allegedly, and Robert Ballard.
	I'm on the air.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And so, and that's when Trump started talking about that we're going to worry about due process later.
	And one of the things that I noticed, the fact that we
	Had media, media was coming out already, you know, basically, and so it's in a line with what Trump says, like, you know, Trump is performing a lot of acts in this nation that have, we're going to worry about due process later, including this coronavirus charade that's going on right now, where shutting down the businesses and all that stuff, you know, that's against Fifth Amendment rights and due process.
	Anyway, that is why I put that in the video.
	Well, I think very appropriate, Steph.
	And of course, you tie this back to the crimes of 9-11.
	Would you care to elaborate?
	Yes, these are more crimes that, you know, are taking place, and they're just step by step by step.
	We went, you know, through a lot of... I mean, we could go back prior to 9-11, but I put 9-11 The video that I put in 9-11, the crimes, these are still left unanswered.
	And all these years later, we still have the same lies, the same media that's saying the same lies over and over again.
	And, you know, clearly, you know, from there, we moved to mass shootings.
	And, you know, just everything just step by step that has taken away our freedoms.
	And would you say it was 9-11 that enabled the passage of the Patriot Act and the introduction of the Emergency Management Plan, all of which concentrated the powers of the government in a very small number of hands?
	Yes, absolutely.
	And, you know, George W. Bush, following 9-11, you know, he went live on television and he told the nation that he was going to
	And that clearly is one of the, I believe, the first time that a president has declared, maybe not the first time, but at least in my eyes, that's a red flag as far as the emergency management plan.
	So in 9-11, following 9-11, immediately following 9-11, You know, they already had an emergency management plan in place.
	I call them special medical ops.
	That's what I've written about for years.
	That's what I like to investigate the most.
	And so, these are special medical ops and we've been seeing them slowly take place after every single false flag that we've been, you know, subjected to since 9-11.
	Then we have, of course, the phenomenon, Barack Hussein Obama, the burial at sea of Osama bin Laden, who was unknown to most Americans, an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
	He was our man in Afghanistan, instrumental in getting the Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen they used to shoot down.
	Soviet helicopters and tanks and drive them out of Afghanistan where he was visited in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death from his medical maladies by an official with the agency and then died on 15 December 2001 buried in an unmarked grave.
	There were local obituaries but both CNN In Fox News, on the 26th of December, 2001, reported that Osama Bin Laden was dead.
	Nevertheless, this guy, Barack Obama, found it politically expedient to resurrect him and have him die again!
	Staff, it's stunning!
	Absolutely, and of course, Osama Bin Laden was at the White House prior to 9-11, so we could go on and on and on for days about 9-11.
	But the reason why I included this section in my video, at the beginning, you know, we go into 9-11 and then we go into the lives of the Obama administration and the Osama bin Laden capture and murder and his burial at sea.
	And it's funny to go back and look at the videos that they actually reported back then, which I did include, and they have a, they showed us back then a live shot of
	Supposedly Osama Bin Laden being shot and you know clearly with technology and as time has come along we realize that you know what they're showing us really is is just a video game and so I had to put that in there there's a burial at sea that was their reason so that nobody would question anything there would be no evidence to go forward.
	Terribly embarrassing.
	Meanwhile, Trump's announced turning over authority to the Department of Health.
	The coronavirus, this is a state of emergency, Friday the 13th, which is the key focus of your video documentary, Stephanie.
	Please do elaborate.
	Well, a lot of people were asking questions as to why the presidential seal had, you know, he was, it was missing following this announcement.
	A lot of people, you know, Trump had to be at the forefront.
	He had to be right there at the microphone so that he could calm the people down as we went forward with this state of emergency.
	And a lot of people did not realize that he announced on national television that he was turning the authority over to the Department of Health.
	And so at that time, he Basically stepped down as president for a number of days.
	And I'm not sure when that presidential seal came back, if it was 30 days or how long it was.
	But Friday the 13th is when President Trump did stand down as the president, gave the authority to the Department of Health.
	And, you know, so what we saw there was him being at the microphone every day.
	Not being our president, but being a spokesperson at that time so that he could keep the country calm as the lockdown was announced.
	He did actually say it's been an honor to serve as your president, did he not?
	Yes.
	Yes, he did, didn't he?
	I mean, I thought that was rather remarkable.
	I mean, everyone must have wondered, what in the world is he telling us?
	And then the seal of the President of the United States was missing from his podium for 30 days!
	Jack, yeah, go ahead, Jack.
	It disappeared on the 13th, and I checked it on the 13th of April when it was gone, and on the 14th of April it returned.
	13th of March it was gone, and the 14th of April it was back.
	So a month, it was gone for 30 days.
	Right.
	And as you mentioned, and we talked about the other night, the other most interesting thing he said on that day was that this was the end of something old that had been useful for a long time, and now it was time it needed to go.
	And the conclusion I made was that he was talking about the Constitution.
	What else could he be talking about?
	Jack, I thought he was talking about the Constitution too, but what a shocking thing to be telling the American people that the basis for their government is now antiquated and has to go.
	I mean, of all the things that Donald has ever said, that was to me the most staggering, puzzling, and profoundly troubling.
	Correct.
	And it couldn't be really misinterpreted any other way, I don't think.
	And what we've seen since then with the nationalization of the economy, and we'll get to that, you know, the United States is gone as it was structured.
	It is now some gigantic fascism blooming out of the ashes of what used to be the limited republic.
	Steph, give us your thoughts.
	What's been going on here?
	Tell us, what has exactly been going on?
	Well, I mean, I believe that, you know, I mean, Jack is correct as well.
	And I think that, you know, we definitely are seeing, basically what they did was they, it was a way, some kind of hostile takeover of America, a way to transform, just like George W. Bush said in his New World Order speech, you know, we're not the rule of the jungle, is what he said.
	What he meant by that was the rule of the jungle was natural law, which is constitutional law.
	And so, you know, Trump is unfortunately in a position right now where, you know, a coup has taken over America.
	And I don't believe that they're just going to release us.
	I think there's going to be more to come from here on out.
	Here you have the governors begin announcing closings of their states.
	Tell us about that.
	We're all living through it, of course.
	Well, except for if you live in South Dakota, which I wonder every single day why it was that I moved away from there.
	I really enjoyed living in that state.
	You know, the biggest thing that at first, you know, that we had to watch was, you know, I noticed that Fox News began airing live on Facebook.
	They had their favorite people that they were covering, like Governor Cuomo, the Maryland Governor, Hogan, Missouri Governor, many, many other governors.
	But, you know, I put this in the video so that people would understand, you know, like go back into time at the very beginning and how they shut the entire restaurant, hotel-restaurant industry down first.
	You know, at first I was like, okay, they're going to use the hotel restaurant industry as a way, you know, we can't gather because, you know, people might get the coronavirus.
	But as time has gone by and we saw the economic hostile heist that took place, now I realize that the reason why they shut the hotel restaurant industry down completely across the entire nation was, one, they didn't want people out spending extra money because, you know,
	There was going to be a shortage of cash for people without jobs as they did this, and also, too, because the food shortage is coming, and they certainly can't have the restaurants ordering food right now.
	It's all they can do to keep the food on the shelf as we're going through this, just for, you know, everybody's everyday life.
	So tell us about the difference between the past and today, Stephanie.
	Well, I included in my video many clips from Little House on the Prairie, and this particular episode, it was called Quarantine, and it was all about the fever running through county to county, and the difference between the way they presented it in the past, or the way that Americans have handled it in the past, is the, you know, the Constitution It was, it was moral.
	Like, if people went into quarantine, it was a moral thing.
	They didn't have, you know, the marshals from the federal government or anybody, the president, telling them that they had to shut everything down.
	They did it on their own.
	They did it on their own, you know, for safety, and they took care of themselves.
	They didn't need a government telling them how to Treat the, you know, people who are sick.
	And so, and there was no martial law.
	So, no martial law declared if there was any protection at all, it was people protecting the county borders of warning people that, you know, there was a, you know, a fever or whatever they call it back then, a disease coming through.
	And so, that's the difference now, is people believe that government needs to take care of them.
	Absolutely.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I was just, this, you know, we see, it's a, it's moral blackmail now where we were told that, you know, if you're, if you're interested in being free and don't want to wear a mask that's as unhealthy as it probably could be, and at the same time is the dimensions of the mask are
	So large compared to the size of a so-called corona particle that there's it's laughable you might as well be wearing fishnet and and so you know but if you try to bring these things up people will you know make you feel like you're you're gonna you're gonna cause granny somebody's grandmother to die or you know some loved one the argument of
	The big brother government standing up for us and telling us that your freedom is not as important as somebody's life and that's some form of emotional and moral blackmail and you know that's it's just interesting because most Americans have no idea that constitutional law was gained what we have from the Constitution was gained from many many sacrifices of life many many people died and those people didn't
	Die so that the law could be just circumvented by a few fanatical government governors around the country Or you know even mayors We see they just locked down the city of Gallup, New Mexico I mean that's not constitutional and many many people died so that that couldn't happen and The sad part is that you know the few handful of people that are dying with coronavirus the people that are going to die at the end of this coronavirus lockdown due to hunger and and
	Mass relocation and the other things that are coming are going to be just dwarf these numbers in scale.
	Jack, I'm convinced the number of suicides alone for people who are distraught because they can't put food on the table or keep a roof over their head are going to overwhelm any coronavirus deaths.
	I mean, it's as though Those who were running the shop were completely oblivious of the consequences when they're supposed to be the experts and to be aware of all the consequences.
	That's why they're in those positions.
	It's like Anthony Fauci back in 2017 saying the Trump administration would not only have to deal with the flu and HIV, But a surprise pandemic.
	Well, if he's predicting it in 2017, how could it be a surprise?
	And he knows it's coming since he's the guy who's supposed to prepare us.
	Why weren't we prepared?
	It's a little too telling that he was deeply involved in this plot to take out the world economically to impose the new world order.
	Just stunning.
	No doubt.
	And somebody ought to be, you know, making some sort of investigational committee that brings these people like Fauci and Gates and a whole lot of other people in and have a serious talk about things like the lockstep Rockefeller Foundation paper and making some sort of investigational committee that brings these people like Fauci And there were others.
	And and then, you know, what you just said with Fauci, that's definitely telling.
	But, you know, you can see that a lot of the governors were in on the action, too, because they have the same words.
	And you see Cuomo and this clown here, Hogan, they are, you know, they've got the playbook.
	The playbook is that you're not going to leave your home.
	You're going to wear a mask.
	You're going to be told when you can come and go.
	Maybe some people will be released in small groups, but you'll still maintain social distancing.
	And like I said, they bring in these key words, testing, new treatments, and vaccine.
	And then from there, we're going to have some sort of a digital certificate that represents whether or not you have had your tests, whether you've had your vaccine, and whether you're able and qualified then to go back to work.
	In other words, they're going to tell you that we'll let you go back to work.
	And so this playbook has been already made and handed out to certain people and these governors and Yeah, is there a pattern of the governor's involvement here politically?
	Isn't it that these are Democrat governors?
	Is there any Republican on the wrong side?
	Well, Hogan's a Republican.
	Hogan is a Republican?
	I mean, they're all following suit.
	Yep.
	I mean, there's no party here.
	I mean, we don't have parties.
	The two-party paradigm is a dialectic.
	It's fake.
	And you have operatives on both sides.
	They work different angles.
	And the Republicans were right now set up to lead the Christian Zionist groups towards standing down during this operation.
	And the Democrats are there to foster destruction and hate and division.
	And that's the two places that these successful leaders are working.
	But the governors aren't too successful because they're morons.
	And we can clearly see, like the governor of Michigan for example, And mafiosos like Cuomo, they don't have the strength of mind to present this in a very compelling way.
	Stephanie, you've included several of the governors here.
	This guy Cuomo, he even directed that nursing homes had to admit active COVID-19 patients, which led to the death of thousands of them.
	I thought that was completely stunning.
	Was that part of the agenda to drive up the numbers?
	Yes, it was, and I want to backtrack a little bit.
	I just want to say something as well that I found.
	I had found a document.
	It was the sources, the UCLA, and it was published on May 17th of 2002, and it was titled, Civil Liberties Issues Check Plans to Fight Bioterrorism, and this was back in the anthrax period, and so
	Anyway, what I found interesting about this publication was, is it states in there, and this is 2002, it states in there that the Model Emergency Health Powers Act was intended to be a template for state laws around the country.
	It allowed state governors 30 days of emergency power with the right to quarantine, isolate, test, treat, and vaccinate people.
	People refusing to be treated or vaccinated could be put into quarantine.
	And it goes on about how officials were to take over the hospitals, the pharmacies during this emergency, allocating drugs and vaccines, and also to ration food and fuel.
	And so, that was back in 2002.
	This was called the Model Emergency Health Powers Act.
	And I found that interesting that I had found that following 9-11.
	So, yeah, I mean, Governor Cuomo, you know, he was a, he, they put him on the air every single day, almost at the same exact time.
	Fox News follows him, he comes on, he's on at least a half hour to an hour.
	And, you know, he just, he just goes on and on and on.
	I find him totally boring, Stephanie.
	Look, you should watch MSNBC is featuring him all the time.
	CNN, all the time.
	Fox, believe it or not, is the best of the three by a considerable margin if you were paying attention to all three.
	But Cuomo seems to me the odds-on favorite to be the nominee who's going to emerge out of the Democratic Convention.
	I think they've been so worried That Trump has come across as so highly confident.
	Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC even said she was worried Trump was getting so much publicity because he looks well-earned.
	She hesitated to say the word competent as though that were a bad thing.
	So they've actually cut away from Trump now to give time to Cuomo and others they want to tout, even though their ratings are sinking precipitously.
	And just a couple of days ago, Cuomo was on there saying, telling, you know, the people of New York that everything that they were doing was voluntary.
	They're doing it on their own.
	And still, you know, people, it's like they're all mind controlled.
	And it's just amazing.
	It's amazing to me, the statistics that they must be taken on how many people are controlled.
	And, you know, we've talked about it many times.
	Jack and I have talked about it many times about How, you know, they're basically just trying to figure out if people believe scientists.
	Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	That's what he said.
	This is going to be a grand experiment.
	And the experiment will be, will people believe the scientists?
	And of course, Neil deGrasse Tyson is one of the priests of scientism.
	People believe those who are being touted as scientists because they're in fact pseudo-scientists.
	These are fake scientists.
	Anthony Fauci, Blix, and the others are frauds.
	They're not actually reporting real science and they're asking People to do things that are contrary to their best interests from the point of view of their health.
	Social distancing, wearing masks, shelter in place, it's all calculated to weaken our immune system.
	We need interaction with other people to keep our immune system robust.
	It's just stunning, Jack, the extent to which the American people are living up to their reputation of sheeple.
	Sheeple.
	Steph was saying, this is all voluntary and people are doing it anyway.
	And yet, as she shows here, we have empty hospitals all over the world.
	I mean, it's all totally fraudulent.
	One thing I found interesting was the videos that were coming out.
	There were people on it immediately following the announcement of the country's shutdown that, I mean, they were being told that, you know, hundreds of thousands of people were dying.
	And, of course, the story from China, mainstream media had already been reporting That China, you know, hundreds of thousands of people were being buried today, and I already knew there was something fishy with this, and then when they reported it coming to the United States, there were already people right on it, right away.
	They were, you know, their states were locked down, and they were told that, you know, there were thousands of people.
	The nurses and the doctors couldn't keep up.
	They were working 24 hours a day, but yet these investigative journalists, And citizen journalists went out and they were actually, you know, went out and found the truth that there were nobody in these tent lines that they put up.
	And, I mean, some people that went there to get tested were even told, you know, there's no order, no test, leave.
	Very bizarre.
	Very bizarre.
	That $17 million temporary hospital they put up in Houston didn't see a single patient.
	They're dismantling it now.
	Well, they had a huge one up in Seattle, too, Jack.
	The Corps of Engineers, after three days, they didn't have one patient, so they shut it down.
	I've shown, you know, videos taken by hundreds of citizen journalists at hospitals all over the country, others in Germany and European hospitals, that they're all empty.
	They don't have any patients at all.
	So what's the story about this pandemic?
	Where are the victims?
	Where are the patients?
	Right.
	Plandemic.
	That's what we got.
	Not a pandemic.
	Definitely a plandemic.
	And also the concerns are is that, you know, that they locked down nursing homes and That's a concern that most people should be worried about.
	If there are people dying in the nursing homes, we need to find out why.
	Are they being vaccinated?
	This was completely planned from the get-go.
	It was definitely a way to trade, figure out a way to get people to agree how to trade our rights for security.
	And so that's what happened.
	And that's what people let them do.
	And there's a few people rising up out there.
	There's a few states that are rising up, but you know, how, how much and how far people are going to go?
	I, I don't, you know, I just don't know.
	But when Cuomo even says this is all voluntary, how can he be enforcing it by using the police?
	He sent out a thousand cops over the weekend to crack down on New Yorkers who were doing a barbecue.
	I mean, it's that outrageous.
	Yeah.
	Here's the thing, though.
	I don't think any of these cases, if they ever came to court, would have any Couldn't even be tried.
	I mean, there's no law that will support that in any of the constitutions of the state.
	And so I think that they're just counting on the fact that people are sheeple and that they're afraid of them and they don't want to go to jail for a night or a couple days or whatever it is.
	And they put these ridiculous fines and, you know, a year in prison is what Hogan told everybody.
	If you weren't wearing your mask, I mean, you can't put somebody in jail for a year of not wearing a mask.
	So they're just pulling this out of their posterior, Jack?
	I mean, this is just to induce fear and intimidation in the docile public?
	Absolutely.
	That's all I see it as.
	It's emotional terrorism.
	These people are terrorists.
	This is not about helping you out, making your life better.
	They wouldn't be telling you don't earn a living.
	Um, you know, don't go out where you could get herd immunity.
	I mean, this is all insane.
	Stay at home and social distance and become isolated like a prisoner.
	There's no health benefit there, no psychological benefit.
	This is all making people depressed, and like you said, suicide is a direct result of that, the rates.
	Not only suicide, domestic abuse, child abuse, sexual abuse, you know, all kinds of weird things are taking place because people are frustrated, they're contained, and the tensions that go on that are normally alleviated by getting out of the house, by interacting with other people, by going to a bar and having a drink!
	Unavailable.
	So it becomes like a pressure cooker.
	Shelter-in-place is putting you in a pressure cooker emotionally, intellectually, psychologically.
	It's bad.
	It's bad for human beings and other living things.
	You pick up on event 201 and the various other precursors of what's going on here, where Jack himself wrote about the pandemic, bioweapon stories, where you talked about the declaration of medical emergencies and the role of the in National Institutes of Health and the CDC.
	I mean, it's fascinating to me that the CDC is now admitting that the death certificates are about the same as ordinary seasonal flu and actually that COVID is less harmful to children than the normal flu.
	I mean, that's remarkable.
	Steph.
	We lost your voice, Stephanie.
	There, I'm back.
	I got it muted.
	Yeah, it's definitely remarkable and it's very alarming to me.
	And in my last book that I wrote, I had a chapter that talked about the CDC and their role in, you know, these medical emergencies and how they were propping up, you know, all these workers that work in the medical establishment, law enforcement, EMS workers, nurses, doctors, etc.
	as being superheroes.
	Declaring a national emergency, you know, was a great way to, you know, basically dupe the nation into being submissive because, you know, how could we possibly, you know, question, you know, that we would want to be around somebody in case we gave them the coronavirus, especially an elderly person.
	And so, you know, declaring a national disaster was basically the best Best idea, whoever wrote this business plan.
	And it was probably UCLA with all their mind control operations, how they worked closely with them.
	And so anyway, Event 201 is where we are.
	And that is from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, as well as many other big companies.
	And we saw that Trump, at the very beginning of this announcement, how he brought aboard the board of directors, including Walmart, Target, CVS, and many others that were going to be basically on the board of directors of being in charge of all this.
	Well, it's just terrible.
	I mean, talk about fascism.
	There you are lining up big government with big business to manage things.
	I mean, Mussolini said that fascism could equally be well-defined as corporatism because it was a merger of big business with big government and Amazon.com, Walmart.
	These are the kind of companies to which precedence is being given, and they're wiping out the middle class.
	That's the new company store.
	You're being, you know, forced to buy from those people while the others are closed and in the same way in which miners complained, you know, back in the 1800s that they were given a company script and then it was only Redeemable at the company store.
	In this case, the script is, of course, the Federal Reserve note, which is doesn't, you know, it's not even, it's a copywritten private script.
	And the company stores are Walmart and Target and the other box stores they allow to open.
	While mom and pop, they have to shut down and or they're standing outside, letting one person come in at a time wearing masks while they see their business go to hell in a handbasket.
	And here we've got Janet Napolitano, Stephanie, telling us, if you see something, say something, turning Americans into snitches.
	I mean, that's just disgusting.
	Totally un-American, in my opinion.
	You know, it's just unbelievable the amount of people that they're, I call them do-gooders, how they just can't wait to call the police on other people.
	They're just You know, they think they're being so heroic, and they think in their hearts that they're just doing, you know, such good, when in reality, they're helping along, you know, imprisoning the nation.
	And so, yeah, I mean, this all ties back to, if you see something, say something, and it is disgusting.
	And I put in my video many clips of, if you see something, say something, snitches calling the police.
	Arguments breaking out, police coming to people's homes to do random searches, and the list goes on and on and on.
	And do-gooders get rewards!
	If you're a snitch, they're gonna reward you?
	Absolutely!
	That's the way it works.
	I mean, that's directly from the Communist playbook, and it was a fact, I think, that the Stasi in East Germany was once to claim that for every One person, there were three watching them, and they give status to people who otherwise would be considered misfits in society, and then they get social status from turning in their friends and feel like they are becoming important.
	Imagine when you couple that with a reward.
	These people are going to be your king, you know?
	And here we got Minnesota Senator Scott Jensen, who's also an MD, who was bothered when he was told to identify the cause of death of a patient who'd never been tested as a COVID patient.
	And he reported how hospitals were being paid $13,000 for every patient they identified as COVID, $39,000 for every patient they put on a ventilator.
	I mean, that is disgusting beyond belief.
	Steph, this must have shocked you.
	It definitely shocked me, and Jack and I had discussed it in depth the other night about it, and so we, this is, you know, I mean, all they have to do is pay people off, and they're going to do whatever people say, and I know there's good doctors, and there's good nurses, and you know, there's a lot of people out there, but even the autopsies are being changed, and just yesterday or the day before, you know, there were, there was a gentleman that put a YouTube video out in
	Pennsylvania that was talking about how the statistics one day in Pittsburgh he'd go back and check him the next day and they had changed him as being less so They're skewing the numbers, and they're skewing the numbers, and they're, you know, offering real— Well, it's clear, you know, that the flu—the deaths from flu have dropped dramatically because they're reclassifying them as deaths from COVID-19.
	Even at that rate, in the first quarter, you had three times as many deaths from the seasonal flu as from COVID-19.
	I mean, it's just disgusting what's going on here.
	Bill Gates wants to become the vaccine king of the world.
	His dream seems to be to vaccinate all the billions of people in the world.
	And of course, he's going to make big bucks, because for him, vaccination is a business.
	And business is good, but the world's catching up with Kill Bill.
	Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	is doing a really nice job of informing with authority.
	The stories that YouTube and others said were rubbish about all the paralysis and death that Gates caused in India and Africa as he attacks these small ignorant groups who think he's there to help and what he's there to do is to experiment on people with these These toxic vials of poison that have nothing to do with health in any way, shape, or form.
	The human body wasn't designed to ingest strange DNA.
	Jack, so far as I've been able to discern, these vaccines are doing nobody any good and they're killing a whole lot of people, making others paralyzed, damaging them neurologically.
	In fact, it turned out they actually developed A pill, a drug that benefited autistic children so they could speak more properly, but big pharma killed it, got rid of it.
	No longer can you get it available.
	That's outrageous!
	There's a prediction now, and we know the correlation between vaccination with these mercury and aluminum bases and the growth of autism.
	It's a perfect statistical correlation that by 2015, If we continue at this rate, half our children will be autistic.
	It's stunning, Jack!
	Stunning!
	And it's so easy to see, and yet we're called anti-vaxxers, and almost the entire population is somehow enamored with the white lab jacket of people who are scientifically fools, and they're not using science.
	Medicine of today is not scientific, and it would be scientism.
	It's more like a religion.
	And I just, I could speak all night about it, but we'll move on.
	Well, I think you're 100% correct.
	And all this testing and all this all appears to be nonsense, complete nonsense.
	And what about what's going to be involved in the financial takedown of America using the coronavirus as the cover?
	And to roll in new vaccines.
	And these new vaccines, Really, literally, are going to be some sort of pig in a poke worse than any vaccine in the past.
	I mean, I read that bit that I had sent to me the other night about this Operation Warp Speed, but, you know, insiders are saying this vaccine is going to kill millions, but it's going to be contaminated with nanoparticles and other junk that benefits long-term with respect to 5G and other technologies That are going to be enhancing, quote, enhancing the human body to become more able to interface with the Internet or with Wi-Fi and with the Internet of Things.
	And a lot of people are not going to be able to tolerate that.
	That's the interesting thing about All sorts of new technologies.
	A lot of people can tolerate it and will tolerate it.
	I'm so glad you guys are here.
	We'll continue our conversation and take callers after this break.
	I'm here with Stephanie Sledge and Jack Mullin, and we'll be taking your calls.
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	I repeat, 540-352-4452 to speak to Stephanie Sladge, Jack Mullen, and me of Dominic in New York, you and I think a friend of yours are together on one line.
	Dominic, go ahead.
	You're on the air.
	Oh, I don't know how I could be on another line, but thanks for taking my call, Dr. Fetzer.
	I just want to bring up a couple of points.
	Is it possible that President Trump Saying something old is coming to an end, is the Federal Reserve, because he's been railing on the Federal Reserve ever since he's become President.
	Second thing, the military, I believe Dr. Fetcher can answer this, I was in the military as an enlisted man.
	I swore an oath to the Constitution.
	I believe, I could be wrong, that officers swear an oath not only to the Constitution, but to the Commander-in-Chief.
	And I don't think that our military is going to stand by, watch our president be overthrown by some kind of committee and not do anything.
	And then just one last thing, and I'll hang up.
	Mr. Mullen, I watched your video, and the picture you show on the video with you and Pastor Baldwin, it could be a coincidence, but you're both standing there with your arms crossed, And the exact symbolism of Freemasonry, and you even have one hand crossed the shoulder and the other hand hidden.
	I'm wondering if that's just a coincidence.
	So, Jack, are you a Freemason?
	Has Dominic nailed you here, fella?
	Love your calls, Dominic.
	Yeah, Jack, go ahead.
	You want to take that first?
	Yeah, that's the problem with Freemasons, you know, hand stuff and symbols and so forth.
	Anybody can be doing them at any given time, and so anytime you want to put a person in a position to, you know, cast them in a bad light, you can say, look how he's holding his hands.
	At least I'm not standing here, you know, going like this all the time.
	But no, I've never been a Freemason.
	I have no interest in Masonry whatsoever.
	In fact, I'm very outspoken.
	If the gentleman would find some of the things I've written over the years, you'll see that I have nothing but distaste for secret societies in general, especially the Masons and their role in destroying I'm not trying to accuse you, I just said it could have been a coincidence.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Dominic, I gotta say, you know, it appears the Masons have had a whole lot more to do with a lot of these events than I've ever appreciated.
	For example, there are those who say Dealey Plaza is just loaded with Masonic symbolism I've never pursued it, but it wouldn't surprise me if actually it had even been involved with regard to Masons and even been regarded involved in the assassination of our 35th president.
	So, I mean, you're raising good questions about the Federal Reserve I think Jack's pretty convinced that he was talking about the Constitution.
	Unfortunately, I'm inclined to think that as well, but I would love it if you were right, Dominic, if getting rid of the Federal Reserve, because it does seem to have somehow been rolled into the Treasury, but they're buying up assets all over the country.
	I don't know.
	Something on a staggering scale is taking place.
	Jack, I think you were alluding to this on Friday.
	Yeah, we talked about it at length.
	I mean, it's the largest nationalization in the history of the world, at least the world that we're familiar with.
	And I was looking at some numbers that came out today, where it placed the bailout of 2020 in on a chart with respect to the other bailouts including 2008 and all the way back to the beginning of the you know the 1900s and it it's a it's it draws a line like this and then it goes like Straight up.
	So in terms of percentages, and that's the amount used, that's the official amounts because under table amounts in this particular case are astronomical.
	The backdoor stuff that's being done, money's being used to bail out.
	Jack, this is clearly not sustainable.
	I mean, this is economically catastrophic.
	I mean, what's the answer?
	I mean, how can the country save itself from itself under these conditions?
	The decision has already been made to destroy the dollar.
	It's finished.
	That's why there's no concern about the fact that nobody's paying any taxes right now.
	They put the tax day off until July.
	Their taxes are a drop in the bucket.
	What they're doing now is spending Every cent that they can on buying every real piece of asset that's available.
	They're trading these soon-to-be worthless fiat dollars into actual, you know property and things of importance while Americans are seeing their mortgages and so forth being transferred to people that you know, just the Treasury because they bought the mortgage-backed securities and and the bad Performing banks sold their assets, etc.
	So, the Federal Reserve and its accomplice, BlackRock, in association with the Treasury, now one big fascist corporate government entity, is nationalizing the entire country.
	Corporate debt, cities, pension funds will come up next.
	I mean, you got states like Chicago, I'm sorry, cities like Chicago and states like Illinois, They're $150 billion underwater with their pensions.
	They're insolvent.
	They're not going to be able to pay them.
	California, the same situation, and many other states.
	I think South Carolina is in the top five.
	This is what happens.
	They end up with all the real value.
	One of the reasons they've maintained the low price of gold and silver over these many years through absolute 100% manipulation.
	Silver is the most manipulated asset ever to be You know, manhandled by a control system in the history of the world, as well.
	I mean, we're still looking at silver that's supposedly, you know, less than $20.
	And, of course, you can't find anything like that.
	And premiums are much, much higher, between $25 and $30.
	But the thing is that that asset is so valuable and is being sold for so little.
	And these vultures buy it up for free.
	They keep the gold price low.
	They can buy it all up.
	And they do that they use gold as a means to flow out to do work and then they take it back in when it's time to destroy the system and and so you know that's there's nothing Trump's not doing anything here but supporting something it's done over and over and over it's got all the same You know, signatures of a collapse and run, and this is nothing new, and there's no standing in the way by Trump in any way, shape, or form.
	All that stuff about Trump's nationalized the Federal Reserve, and now he's the Federal Reserve Chairman, no.
	That was just bullshit.
	That's bullshit, yep.
	Dominic, I'm real glad you called in.
	We also have a caller.
	Go ahead, yeah, go ahead.
	It's pretty obvious to anyone that's looking that the whole world is in debt, so we're ready for a financial reset somehow.
	Dr. Fetzer, was I right about you as an officer?
	Did you take an oath?
	No, as I recall, Dominic, it was to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, but of course, As a military officer, you have a chain of command and you're obligated to follow all lawful orders up to the commander-in-chief himself, who of course is the president.
	So why would our military just stand by and let our president be pushed aside?
	And let some committee take over.
	I'm not saying they would, Dominic.
	I think the question is, what the hell really is going on?
	And if Jack is right, it's a rather terrifying prospect.
	And I think Stephanie is pretty much in agreement that that's the way it is.
	And she's been very troubled by what's been going on, especially during that 30-day period.
	Steph, do you have an idea of exactly what happened during that 30 days and now we have the presidential seal back?
	I mean, what happened?
	Well, what happened was Event 201 and what happened was is that they They took a period of time which I talked about that was found in a document in 2002 that was from the UCLA and they took that act and they applied it to this event and they were able to use this situation to take down the Constitution
	And, you know, just suspend our Bill of Rights and doing it in the name of safety and all the bills that have followed that since then, since 9-11.
	And, you know, we've seen just little increments of bills that have come in, even with little shootings like, you know, staged shootings like the Tucson shooting or the Sandy Hook shooting or Parkland shooting or, you know, all those shootings.
	There was always some legislation that would follow.
	And it was always built into these special medical ops.
	And unfortunately, in my first book, I wrote about how the Navy was actually involved in this and what their role was and how they, you know... Why don't you recap that for the benefit of the audience now?
	I'm sorry, say that again?
	Why don't you recapitulate, recap the role of the Navy in relation to...
	The role of the Navy is very important here.
	And the role of the Navy came in a special medical ops, at least since I've been investigating since the Tucson shooting.
	And they are highly involved in this.
	So when you, when the caller says that, you know, wonders why the military is allowing this to happen.
	Well, our military is not, you know, the military of the people.
	I mean, this is a corporate military now.
	And special medical ops and medical, these medical psyops are deeply involved in, the Navy is deeply involved in this.
	That's all very disturbing.
	Dominic, did you have a further question?
	If Dominic does not, we have a caller, Giuseppe from the District of Criminals.
	Giuseppe, you're always welcome here.
	Join in the conversation.
	Well, hello, greetings, and I just want to say what a great show to guests who are completely awake and exhibiting critical thinking.
	And I just wanted to point out that so much of this is just societal mind control that goes all the way back to 1912-ish with the Frankfurt School and the discoveries of Shlomo Freud and his other fellow Zionists that the average person can be easily manipulated.
	And if you think about it, there's been like thousands of trauma-based events, Pearl Harbor, Kennedy's assassination, these are the giant ones, 9-11, all the phony false shootings.
	And it's all done to create in people a level of seminal fear and that they don't grow and mature into like a warrior adult.
	Or instead, they're like stuck at like a five-year-old's level, right?
	And so then you get, you've got a dichotomy.
	The middle class right now is, this is oversimplified to a little bit, and I don't mean to insult anybody, but you've got like one body, the tarred body with two heads.
	You've got the Lib Tard head which wants to have the mommy state give them everything and wipe their nose and put on their diaper and give them vaccines and oh you never want to itch a chicken pox oh it'd be bad and you've got the Mega Tard who is
	I'm so afraid of every boogeyman, the commie, the Muslim, the whatever, and they want the daddy state to protect them and destroy everything.
	What we really need is adults who can critically think and who can actually take what is vital.
	We need to be third positionists like Bobby Kennedy Jr.
	is suing the fraud Fauci and suing the various states and the and the vaccine corporations and he's come out and said we'll eventually win they can't they can't win in court when the truth is heard but you know that's going to take forever and millions are going to die in the meantime and then you've got you know brilliant people on on the right as well fighting for it but the great mass is this one body two-headed hard sadly
	And I just am hoping that people will somehow wake up.
	We are at war.
	They are committing a direct attack on our freedoms and our rights.
	And you know, I'm sure all of you feel the same way.
	There's going to be some people who are going to die before I'm killed, but they'll never put a needle in me.
	I haven't had a vaccine since I was a little boy in Milwaukee in 1971 or 72.
	And that's it.
	You know, when I'm injured and get stitches, want a tetanus vaccine?
	No, I don't.
	Are you sure?
	Yes, I do.
	Because I know you're four more times likely to get tetanus after that vaccine.
	And just to summarize, and one key interesting point is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, who was a guest a couple weeks ago, retweeted a fascinating piece about the psychopathic narcissist Bill Gates, who has literally Born six inches from home plate, thinks he hit a home run, and he's one of those incredibly bright but psychopathic, lazy individuals.
	So when he got access to like $40,000 an hour computing time back when he was a wealthy kid in high school, What did he do?
	He learned to write the first virus, and then with essentially unlimited capital from the kosher casino Wall Street, he could have hired the best people, and they could have written a bulletproof operating system that worked consistently on every platform.
	So what does he do?
	They constantly create a platform, the windows, that's crappy, plenty of bugs, just rife with viruses and malware.
	And it's always been the case to this day.
	And the producer of this piece claims it's intentional.
	And now he says he's trying to do the same thing with human viruses, which is just fascinating to contemplate.
	I think that's exactly right, Giuseppe.
	You know, it turns out that in the military-industrial complex, they frequently turn out mechanism, devices, whether it's tanks, artillery, planes, that don't work quite right.
	So they have to have contracts for maintenance and upgrading.
	That just send their profits shooting skyward, you know.
	There's a problem here with the profit voting when it's driving the health industry that they really don't care about the subjects, the recipients.
	What they care about is their pocketbooks.
	I observed with a group of psychiatrists years ago how they really don't make any effort to verify the stories are told by their patients about When their parents died, their cause of death, the circumstances of their life, the only issue they seek to verify is whether the check is good.
	And I think it's very similar here with the pharmaceutical industry.
	This is one reason I think Bernie Sanders I'm interested in your opinion on this, Giuseppe.
	I think Bernie Sanders would have been a perfect Democratic candidate for this time.
	They shunted him aside.
	They're not going to bring him back.
	But it seems to me the American people could have been very enthusiastic about Medicare for all under these circumstances.
	The interesting thing about Bernie Sanders is that In 2016, when he included the disenfranchised white working class and lower middle class voter in his polemics, he was easily electable.
	And the corrupt Democratic National Committee, as you've documented so well, stole the rightful nomination.
	Whereas in 2020, he started listening to the DNC, eliminated the white majority voter from his assertions.
	And he never had any kind of opportunity to.
	So 2016, Bernie, yes, I agree.
	2020, Bernie, no, I don't agree.
	You don't think he would have been a good candidate for this time when we're in the health crisis.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think he's a spineless guy.
	I mean, he should have gone to court in 2016.
	He should have fought for his nomination.
	Instead, he gets bribed a couple million dollars, buys a couple nice new houses, comes away with a black eye, and what's up with all those black eyes?
	That's a whole other discussion.
	And all of a sudden, he's like, oh, I support that Democrat.
	Yeah, I know.
	It was terrible.
	It was disgusting.
	It was a disgrace.
	Well, let me bring in Steph and Jack here.
	Stephanie, would you like to take a stab at this?
	Well, I mean, you have to open up and see the bigger picture here.
	Like, I mean, it doesn't matter if it's Joe Biden or Trump.
	I mean, It's a fake paradigm, no matter how you look at it.
	And, you know, I mean, there's not one person that's going to do any better than the other person.
	I mean, and Biden's running around.
	He's got, you know, obviously some mental problems right now.
	He can't remember anything.
	It seems like that he's speaking in tongues most of the time.
	And so, you know, our elections, you know, as much as we want to hope that You know, somebody's going to come aboard and fix this.
	That's the problem.
	The problem is we, the people, need to fix it, which is why I put the Declaration of Independence at the beginning of my movie.
	And it's because we don't need a government, a tyrannical government.
	We don't need another, you know, another president coming in that, you know, is not working for we, the people.
	Giuseppe, I want you to stand by.
	Jack, go ahead and offer your comments, and then I want to bring in Mitchell, who's been very patiently listening to both shows, but hasn't had the opportunity to introduce a word of his own.
	Go ahead, Jack.
	I'm a person who thinks that the two-party paradigm is nothing at all but a piece of show work and mind control.
	Sanders, of course, is a communist.
	I mean, he was a communist, card-carrying, as he says.
	I actually honeymooned in Moscow, Jack.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so, any Bolshevik is not somebody I would vote for under any circumstance, but Bernie made the mistake this time in insulting Netanyahu, and as a result of that, I think his chances quickly went out the door.
	He apparently lost the few primary things that he was involved with because, you know, not because the people didn't vote for him or wouldn't want Bernie.
	It's just that Biden suddenly became the boy they planned to put in the position of the presidential candidate.
	And again, it doesn't matter that Biden is senile now.
	That's not important because he's not going to win.
	He's not even going to get the nomination, Jack.
	Sexual assault allegation is going to be used to take him out and replace him.
	The question is who?
	I think the plan was to have a Biden-Clinton combination, and then Hillary would assume when Biden stepped down because of ill health, but that's not going to play now.
	It was just too obvious the guy is completely out of it, and therefore I think they're going to use a sexual abuse, actually sexual assault.
	It was a physical assault.
	I mean, Hillary is so eager.
	She, I believe, had a major role in all of this coronavirus thing to take down Donald Trump, given that the two greatest advantages an incumbent has in seeking re-election is a robust economy and a soaring stock market.
	Well, they took care of that in short order.
	The people are still rallying to Trump and you know rightly or wrongly I think that it's appropriate as long as he does some good and we're waiting to see what good he may do.
	I know you and Steph are very skeptical I have a bit of hope for him, but we'll see in short order whether he's actually on the side of the people or not.
	I know which way you view it.
	Meanwhile, let me bring in Mitchell.
	Mitchell, I know you've been listening to both of these shows, and I'm certain you have a lot of thoughts of your own.
	Please join us.
	Well, yeah, where do we start?
	Let's see.
	One third of death certificates were wrong before the virus.
	Let alone the padding of all the stats that they estimate now at least one-third of the deaths that are listed as COVID-19 are actually from another some other cause.
	So you know we're looking at a drastically reduced death toll and and here's the other thing you know all these places now are scrambling to get to get immunity from from lawsuits.
	Nursing homes in particular, which really dropped the ball and you know, contain the virus in the nursing home instead of getting it out of there.
	So there's a lot of stuff that's going to fall out from this.
	You know, from China in particular, China is going to be under increasing pressure As this moves forward and what will happen, I'm not sure if you can push it more towards a nationalistic fascist state than the communist state that it is, but I see that as a big spark in the future.
	Now, Jack, we know that declaring, you know, a national emergency of all 50 states, which was untrue.
	I mean, there were several states that weren't worried, weren't declaring themselves in an emergency situation.
	It has legal consequences.
	I wonder if immunity for actions that are taken then by the governors in that state of emergency might be included.
	I don't know.
	I know that that also gives them access to government money.
	You know, the states that were not included because they didn't have any corona in their state may be having financial problems about as a result of having to remove the workforce from You know, going to work.
	And so they may be included in some sort of port barrel handout that way, but it just seems to me that that 50-state directive was necessary to complete whatever parts of these executive orders over the years and the other types of things that, like Stephanie mentioned earlier, in 2002 required in order for them to obtain full control over this situation.
	Are we ever going to get out of this emergency, Jack?
	Or do you think it's in perpetuity?
	It's designed to be in perpetuity.
	And, you know, if the Fauci group is functioning under the control of Gates, who may be functioning under the control of something else, The plan is to bring back a round two of this coronavirus, and they'll bring back the same stuff again.
	You'll be able to work a limited number of days or whatever.
	You're going to maintain social distancing.
	You're going to get the mask back out.
	And in the meantime, they're going to say, we've got to have this vaccine.
	And they're not going to, I think, release their hold without Americans getting off their behinds and doing something.
	Until they get the vaccine in as many people as possible and then you start getting your digital certificate which lights up green every time you walk into a building that says I'm allowed to be here.
	So, I don't see us getting off here.
	It's just a disgusting future with no real freedom.
	Everyone under total control.
	There's a wonderful, by the way, blog I have now at jamesfetzer.org.
	I've also embedded my interview with Jack from Friday So I want to encourage everyone, take a look at it.
	It's profoundly disturbing.
	I don't think anyone will be able to read it and not feel a nauseated knot in your stomach.
	Steph, do you want to add?
	Do you see any prospect of coming out of this state of emergency or do you think it's a fait accompli?
	Well, I mean, if they coming out of the state of emergency is going to be It's going to have more rules, regulations, codes, and laws that we're going to have to follow.
	And I don't see us ever returning to 100% independent freedom again, unless there's going to be, you know, some real backlash against the government.
	And I think at this point in time, and I know that a lot of people will argue with me, but, you know, like our sheriffs are, there's only very just a few sheriffs in this country that are constitutional.
	The rest of them are Are you know they're just follow and sue and we we vote for a sheriff that's supposed to on a county level keep all of this out of our lives and they don't even know their own os and so you know I I think honestly I think the next step is going to be that we're just going to have to you know there's going to be there's probably going to have to be another revolutionary war in order it's going to have to divide the people that
	You know, that want to live in communism and the people that want to be free.
	I think you may be right.
	We have another caller here.
	Chicago Brew.
	Brew, join the conversation, my friend.
	I had to cut this in pieces in the first hour, but just... Sure.
	Was it Stephanie?
	Yes.
	So, Stephanie, you know, we can have back Normalcy or better.
	And we don't want normal.
	The normal before was tyrannic, you know, the chronic capitalism, everything else.
	I mean, you know, just everything that was going on before this sucked.
	For the most part, we were still Americans and we thought we had this freedom and liberty and so on and so forth.
	But really, we had these oligarchs and these people that, you know, make these laws and they got law enforcers to enforce those laws.
	And now they're just taking another stretch.
	So, let me digress here.
	You know, I did catch Jack mention about the company store, and this is what I mentioned also.
	You know, you got Amazon, Walmart, blah, blah, blah.
	You know, the CIA is a heavy investor in Amazon, you know?
	I mean, we know they're behind this stuff, so basically, that's what they've been doing.
	The company store, and unless somebody could find evidence to prove otherwise, it's my biggest belief that China bought the domestic Walmart, all the domestic holdings of Walmart, and the Walton family held the international part of it.
	So basically we have the Chinese running the franchise here in America during the crisis that allegedly they helped manufacture.
	- Nice, nice. - Bruh, somehow that wouldn't surprise me.
	I think you make a nice point, yeah. - Well, you know, I think you were saying something was, I was going back and forth with Alex Jones over there.
	He had that Dr. Boyle on over there, whatever.
	Dr. Boyle.
	I don't get him, you know.
	In one fact, he's like, in one fashion, he's trying to say, you know, I know all the evidence and this and that.
	We got to do this.
	And another fact, he sounds like a globalist.
	Sounds like he's an idiot.
	He sounds like a globalist too.
	Like he says, we have to get William Bauer to have a special counsel to investigate this.
	You know what special counsels are, folks?
	Special counselors are where evidence goes to fade away.
	It gets together.
	As soon as they get a special counsel, that's why the newer investigations are so long.
	It's because they can take evidence and hide it from the public.
	You don't want a special counsel.
	You want just investigators.
	We've got thousands of lawyers that work for the United States government and law enforcement.
	So they investigate.
	That information can maintain public for the most part.
	You know, special counsels are bogus.
	You know, that's why Lindsey Graham continuously pulls for another special counsel upon what Mueller did, to hide the evidence, to keep it out of the public, to keep it out of our ears.
	Okay?
	You know, I don't know what else you guys were saying about it, but you know, Bill, let me start here.
	You know Ron Avery, Jim, who I helped notify you about.
	He talks about the disarmament of terrorism.
	Everything that's going on now is a disarmament of our rights in many shapes, fashions, or forms.
	A right to assemble, a right to our speech, a right to our freedoms, a right to go to work.
	This is terrorism.
	We're under a terrorist attack.
	You've got to call it what it is.
	If you're not calling it what it is, then, you know, I don't know what you're going to do.
	You can't hide there in a foreign sink anymore.
	It's done.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, we have Bill from Australia standing by, so stick around, Bill, from Australia.
	Come on, join the conversation.
	Yeah, well, I'd just like to reiterate that it's the PSYOP and they're taking away our human rights.
	That's the main thing.
	They're taking away our rights.
	We can't, you know, They have people in Australia, they go into their house and they're sitting too close together in the lounge room.
	And they fine them for sitting in their own house.
	It's just ridiculous.
	And that's the basic thing.
	The whole thing is ridiculous.
	They have not got the right.
	They're meant to be our representatives that we elected.
	How they get around in Australia is bipartisan.
	The Labor and the Liberal are both backing it.
	So you can't get away from it with a vote.
	That's my main point.
	That's good.
	Giuseppe, I want to bring you back in, my friend.
	Oh yes, I would like to state that Stephanie, Jack, and Drew, and actually everybody, are accurate in that we're losing our rights.
	But if you step back and you think about, you know, who are we losing it to?
	We're losing it to these globalist parasites, another boogeyman, but their actual numbers I don't know, a couple thousand maybe.
	That's all there is.
	But they wield this enormous system that they have locked down at so many levels.
	You know, the great core from the vile Bolshevik Jew, Lev Bronstein, who took the name Leon Trotsky, said, I really don't care who the leaders are as long as I control the police.
	And in this case, control the military.
	So we have the numbers.
	I mean, ideally, We would be able to get enough people woken up because this vaccine that's coming it's going to kill a lot of people.
	It's going to activate the RNA in weird terrible mutations and there's going to be millions of people permanently crippled or killed by these Gates vaccines.
	There's just no way around it.
	There's the science as you know well know Jim and listeners that Dr. Judy Mike have so brilliantly explained a week ago on the show.
	That's real science.
	The Gates Fauci is science as propaganda, which is a nice way to say science as lies.
	And they just doctor the data, lie about the data, cook the reports, withhold certain things they don't want known so they can move forward with this population controlling agenda.
	And the only answer is we have the numbers, and hopefully enough of these people wake up and see their sick and dead children, and then their sick and dead brothers and sisters, and then all of a sudden we have millions of people taking to the streets, and everything changes a lot.
	You know, it doesn't have to be violent, it just has to scare the living bejesus out of these couple thousand globalist parasites, at which point, you know, can repurpose these corporations to work under safety rules and with proven science, can repurpose these corporations to work under safety rules and with proven science, and all vaccines are called off until they can prove with double-blind studies that
	And right now there is no vaccine that's worth taking the risk of.
	And when we have, Giuseppe, when we have hydroxychloroquine, which works virtually 100% of the time, I mean it's incredible They're holding out for the vaccine because that was always the plan.
	The solution for them was the vaccine, and it was a curveball.
	It came out of nowhere that there was this cheap, readily available, no longer patentable drug, hydroxychloroquine, that works virtually like a miracle cure for this coronavirus.
	Well, you mentioned earlier, Jim, that there was a 100-year-old medicine called Ceramin that they were repurposing for autistic kids, and it was totally clearing the toxins out of their brain and waking them up, and they could think and speak.
	And Bayer, who bought Whomever, took it off the market, because it's cheap and effective, and it's just satanically evil.
	It is.
	It's just disgusting.
	It's a disgrace.
	A company that would do that should not be in business.
	You know, it was original with companies, corporations in the United States that you had to show that you were serving some useful public or social function.
	That ended in like 1913 as I recall.
	There was a company in Delaware that was chartered that didn't have a specific benefit to the public good.
	But I think that ought to be restored and certainly companies like this that are deliberately harming the American people or withholding benefits which are readily available.
	They should be taken out illegal.
	They should be stomped out.
	They should be punished, fined, bankrupt by paying off whatever assets they have to benefit those they have harmed.
	Right.
	I totally agree with everything Stephanie was saying that elections are worthless.
	But just imagine if people woke up to the third position where we could have President Hunter Carlson and Vice President Robert Kennedy Jr.
	and we'd be electing similar representatives and senators that are actually serving the people and serving the people of this nation.
	Things could change really quick.
	I mean, it's a pipe dream on the one hand, but on the other hand, all the infrastructures of all the corporations and everything, that can be easily repurposed.
	It still pays, paying jobs, still functions.
	It's just who's at the steering wheel.
	Well, I know that Brew is there chafing at the bit to get a few words in edgewise.
	Brew, go ahead.
	Look, I'm wearing a mask here so long.
	I'm serious.
	I'm serious.
	Look, they steal from us.
	Okay, the bankers, the corporations, all that.
	They steal from us, but yet you're the ones wearing the masks.
	Okay?
	The bank robbers make us wear the masks of the ones that are being stolen from.
	If you don't want to look at it in the fact that we're being stolen from and they're putting the masks on us, how about we're being called hostage?
	And then, you know, these massacres are short of being quitted.
	We're being held for ransom.
	They coerce us to meet their demands.
	How about that?
	That's basically what we're looking at.
	You know, I want to refer to, uh, he says, you know, vaccines are going to kill.
	Yeah, of course vaccines are going to kill.
	Vaccines have been killing, naming and so on.
	They've been planting illnesses in people all this time with the vaccines.
	Vaccines should not be, uh, mixed up with the thought, you know, a lot of people think vaccines are so good because they think of it as an antidote.
	Boy, I got a snake bite.
	There's an antidote.
	So we're starting to think that Traktiva is quick cure to stop an illness, to stop something, to whatever.
	Just like people that are obese and they want to lose weight, they're going to get their slump faster.
	The quick weight pill, the pill that's going to make it all go away, or the tummy tuck, or whatever it is.
	Because they want a quick fix.
	They love the vaccine.
	you.
	The idea of vaccine, which is all snake oil.
	And you know snake oil people, you should go to jail.
	It's like Elizabeth Holmes did.
	We got caught up.
	She was the darling of the media for the blood testing kit on Silicon Valley.
	And then she got caught up.
	It was all fraud.
	The billionaires.
	I used to watch her on CNBC.
	I used to think, wow, what a wonderful chick.
	I mean, smart, intelligent, pretty.
	And then she was flawed.
	But then you have Martin Sparelli, who they went after him after he said, hey, look, get me a strand of Harry Clinton's hair and I'll be with DNA testing.
	I'll tell you who she really is.
	But then they went after him and put him in jail.
	He really didn't commit any crimes but they put him in jail.
	You know what's going on right now, folks?
	There is genocide going on because look at the food supplies.
	The food supplies are being cut out.
	When the first world goes down, the third world goes down worse.
	Then they turn the first world and the third world, but now the rest of them are just desolate.
	We live in Memphis, buying the world with food.
	Now these people are starving.
	It's going to be up to 300,000 people a day that are dying.
	So they're taking out the first world of people.
	They're going for the second and the third.
	We're going to let this continue on.
	And if you're going to elect people, it's not the big house.
	We've got to run for the communists.
	They used to go for the president.
	They used to go for the White House, but they realized they had to take it from the brown-ups, to the one from the school boards, to the councils, the mayor's office, the governors of all the states.
	And that's how they took it over.
	That's how they're getting rid of it now.
	That's why you gotta run.
	You gotta run for your local office because it has to be someone like a Kennedy.
	And don't trust Robert Kennedy.
	He's a Kennedy for God's sake.
	Rue, you're on fire.
	You're on fire.
	Let me get Jack in here first.
	Jack and then Steph.
	Jack, your thoughts about Rue's entourage?
	Well, I mean, I agree with all that.
	I wanted to just follow up with a couple little things that Giuseppe said, too.
	It was Monsanto that was bought by Bayer for $66 billion.
	Always got to be 66.
	But I don't think there's any way to politically use this system to take back the country without some sort of force.
	Because, I mean, they own the media, and the media is a great mind control machine that runs 24-7 and affects every mind on the planet.
	For the most part, I mean.
	I don't watch any single national media whatsoever, and will I ever again.
	I haven't done so for about 15 years.
	But I see most people listening to it and watching it 24-7.
	And of course, they control the voting process.
	They control the voting machines, which is a primary control which is by Israel.
	And so that system is flawed, and it's not going to allow somebody to make their way in.
	And so, you know, I hope RFK doesn't try to run for an office like president.
	I don't want him to join his brothers prematurely.
	I think he's out on a limb right now, helping out humanity in a way that is important and necessary.
	But nonetheless, just his words alone are really, you know, influencing a lot of people.
	Drew was denigrating him, but I think he's doing a commendable job.
	Steph, would you like to add a few words?
	We've got a couple more callers I want to bring in.
	Steph?
	Well, I agree also with Jack, and I do believe that there's going to have to be some force, and I mean, it's unfortunately going to divide a lot of people.
	But, you know, I mean, our elections are rigged.
	Everything is, you know, in disarray.
	There's no Trustworthy people.
	It's all a fake paradigm.
	And I agree that there's either going to have to be force or, you know, there's going to have to be some type of divide that's going to happen.
	But, you know, there's not going to be any superheroes that come in and save, you know, save the country.
	You know, we're not going to make America great again by pressing an election button for a new president right now.
	The only people that are going to fix anything in this country is us.
	We the people.
	And so we need to stop looking at, you know, an individual as a savior and the fact that, you know, we have a coup behind the scenes that, you know, the majority, you know, they speak one language to us, but their actions are different.
	We do have a question from the chat room about the food supply.
	I was very concerned the other day that some meatpacking companies in the Midwest were shutting down and that we had two chicken ranchers in Delaware and Maryland that were about to slaughter two million of their flock, but Trump actually used the This National Defense Production Act to insist they go back into business to keep the meat supply flowing.
	So while I do have general concerns, it may be the action he took then means that we may not have as immediate or abrupt a meat shortage as anticipated.
	Bill Grant, I know you're on the line.
	Join the conversation.
	Yeah, hey guys, thanks.
	Great guest again, a lot of great points, all the callers, and Mitchell Buttmade as well.
	But first of all, I say track the tracers, track the trackers, okay?
	Because you get that tracking issue.
	The first caller, Maybe Giuseppe or the other guy brought up what I was going to bring up.
	The most important issue we can talk about kind of is two issues, and that is Trump talked about the Fed.
	We talked about the Fed, but what really happened?
	This goes to 9-11.
	We had a major false flag for a major reason.
	What happened?
	What was planned ahead of time before 9-11 was to happen?
	They already planned the creation of the Freedom Tower.
	That was designed and re-planned.
	That was, that was to unify the two pillars, the two twin pillars into one so that a conversion Of the entwined into one, okay?
	Now we have this new super massive worldwide false flag designed to be a greater unification.
	What did Trump do that we did not expect?
	He did not audit and then end the Fed.
	He merged the two.
	That is the new 9-11.
	Those are the towers.
	He just merged them into one.
	That is why I'm turning against Trump.
	And then, he already did tell you, he's going to make a digital currency system.
	We cannot have a digital currency system forced on Americans, not at least internally.
	Going out into the country, I can understand, I think that would actually be the best thing to do.
	Any forced, settled digital currency is extraordinarily bad.
	Oh, I agree 100%.
	And what about the people who don't even have a credit card?
	They just die in the street.
	And if they can monitor every purchase you make, whether it's a candy bar, a shotgun, or going to the theater, they can cut you off high and dry with no financial resources.
	It's a terrible, terrible idea.
	It may be the banker's wet dream, but I think it's a catastrophe for our free people.
	Yeah, by the way, I meant, you know, the emergence of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve.
	I didn't say it correctly.
	Well, Jack thinks that the Fed is still doing its thing and buying up all these assets at bargain basement prices.
	And I think he's right that there's a whole lot going on here economically.
	The consequences of which are going to be enormous, completely enormous, and almost certainly disadvantageous to ordinary citizens and small business owners.
	We've got another caller here, Tony from Chicago.
	Tony, go ahead, join the conversation.
	Tony.
	Yeah, okay.
	On Saturday, There was 2,000 people in downtown Chicago, you know, protesting this renewal of Pritzker's stay-at-home order.
	And the group that was holding it, it's American Revolution 2, not 2 spelled out, but tothenumber.org.
	American Revolution tothenumber.org.
	So if you're in one of these, you know, Democratic Communist Party states, I think this guy is gonna... These were all over the country, okay?
	The ones in California were, you know, with this group, and there was a number of them.
	The cops broke them up.
	You're seeing this as a sign of hope, Tony, that there are groups emerging that are dedicated to regaining freedom for the American people, calling themselves American Revolution 2?
	Okay, well, look, this is on Friday.
	Pastor Rick Wiles, truenews.com, t-r-u-n-e-w-s.com.
	I don't know if you're familiar with this guy.
	He's extremely anti-Israel and anti-Zionist, and I'm even more anti-Israel, anti-Zionist.
	Which are very positive attributes in my book.
	Yes.
	Well, okay, let me get to the point.
	He claimed, he said, he had a friend in Michigan that talked to his congressman, didn't say who the guy was, I assume another pastor, okay, that's not a con artist cook like in my opinion most of them are, and I'm sorry, that's the way I feel, okay, and he said his congressman told him that there was a conference call between all these Democratic Communist Party governors Okay.
	Pritzker, New York, New Jersey, California, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
	On and on and on.
	With, of all people, just about ready to croak George Soros.
	This is what he said.
	And the point was, a decision has been made.
	that nothing is going to open up in these states until 2021.
	Okay, so you can take that for what it's worth.
	That's what the guy said.
	I've sent the guy money, believe it or not.
	I actually sent a pastor money.
	I think the guy's credible.
	I, you know, I lie.
	But this is my, let me, let me just tell you what my, wait, could I say what my plan is?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Just, just, just.
	to start a revolution in the Civil War, okay, in these Democrat Communist Party states.
	Okay, the pastors, okay, in these rural counties need to get together in these states where, you know, They need to either, either get together and just point blank, open up the churches on Sunday or go to the county commission, go to their chair and tell them, we're going to church and there's nothing you can do to stop us.
	Okay.
	And if that started happening all over rural United States, that this was, you know, totally defined, we're going, we'll get arrested millions of people.
	Going to church, sticking the finger to a guy like Pritzker and these other Rothschild communists that are running these states, okay?
	That would start it off, and then you move it into the medium-sized cities like Peoria, Illinois, okay?
	And these 100,000 cities, 150,000, move it into those cities.
	Okay, that's where it all starts.
	You're not going to get anywhere in, you know, New York, And Chicago and L.A.
	and all these big cities.
	Too many cops.
	They have the National Guard problem.
	Tony, Tony, Tony, listen.
	That's how you do it through the church.
	But I'm going to tell you something.
	These pastors are a bunch of worthless cowards.
	If I'm offending anyone, I don't care because I don't like them.
	I'm sorry.
	Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony.
	I'm fascinated by what you're telling us now.
	What do these governors think is going to happen to their states if they don't go back?
	If they're going to have a pile of economic rubble?
	I mean, you're just talking about rendering... Yeah, but Jim, they don't care!
	You got Pritzker.
	Okay, Pritzker is straight in with the Rothschilds, okay?
	The Rothschilds sent Obama to Illinois.
	It was confirmed by Schumer down in Boca Raton at a synagogue.
	He said, Where did Barack Obama get his start, okay?
	He got his start with the two wealthiest families, Jewish families, in Chicago, which are the Pritzkers and the Clowns, which are no longer here.
	The Clowns are the Aspen Institute.
	Tony, frankly, you know, Barack Obama is yesterday's news, in my opinion.
	I want to know the economic consequences of this pact between the Democratic governors to not reopen their states.
	Which I frankly do not believe the citizens of their own states are going to allow to happen.
	I don't think they will.
	I think they'll run the governors out of town on a rail before they let themselves be destroyed by these idiotic policies.
	Well, they obviously know what's going to happen because they're doing it.
	Okay, we'll see.
	We'll see.
	That's the one it'll work on.
	are delayed it for two months.
	We'll see if this guy here has the balls to go another month.
	In your state, Jim, Wisconsin, okay, it's for another month.
	So they obviously know what's going to happen, okay?
	We all know what's going to happen.
	They want it to happen.
	What other conclusion could you come to?
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's so stupid.
	It's so monumentally stupid!
	In Illinois, as much as I can't stand a guy, he really didn't close down as much as I thought, because I read his new order.
	He never closed down construction, and he never closed down manufacturing, even though a lot of factories did close.
	The Ford plant on the far south end of Chicago closed, but he didn't close down as much, because he couldn't, because his place is closed.
	Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	We're almost to the end, and I want to give Jack and Stephanie the opportunity to say a few words by way of closing, but thank you, Tony.
	That was very passionate, and you delivered a lot of info.
	Good stuff.
	Jack, why don't you go first?
	- All I'm gonna say is-- - This is somebody trying to call me and we get this every now and then.
	Go ahead, Jack. - I'm gonna quote Percy Shelley, and that's rise like lions after slumber in unvanquishable number.
	Shake your chains to earth like dew, which in sleep had fallen on you.
	Ye are the many and they are the few.
	And that's the key here.
	These people are tinied in number and they're mostly degenerate and botched.
	Steph and Jack, we've run out of time.
	It's great having you here.
	I think you both were terrific on both occasions.
	Thanks all for the callers.
	Just super.
	And all of you out there, thank you for listening.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Thank you, Jim.

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