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Nov. 7, 2018 - Jim Fetzer
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DR JIM FETZER "The Real Deal" GARY KING Pittsburg Synagogue Shooting
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal with a special.
event here with my colleague Gary King about developments in New Orleans related to the purported shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Gary has reports for us about developments there and then we'll take a look at the realities of the situation, the reasons which are many why this appears to be a fraudulent event and what seems to be going on politically.
Gary?
Thanks very much, Jim.
It seems to be really solemn times at the moment.
I just can't believe the amount of mind control that the people are under right now.
In fact, the only thing I can think of is that everyone is having a spell cast upon them.
They're just casting a spell upon the entire nation.
From the football games, every single football game, they were bowing their heads and talking and things like that.
On the assumption it was real.
They were taking for granted this was a real event.
Right.
So, Jim, you know I've been on this kind of stuff quite a while.
So immediately I wanted to find out, was there an active shooter drill planned for this particular synagogue?
And it didn't take long.
So the headline reads, active shooter drill planned for Thursday night in Squirrel Hill Darlington Road to close.
And this is back in January 24th, when they were announcing it.
Right, and they went through the whole thing to let everyone know why the roads were closed.
Can you read this for us real quick, Dr. Fetzer?
Sir, Pittsburgh and Allegheny County Police, along with the FBI, will hold an active shooter drill Thursday night in Squirrel Hill.
The drill will take place from 8 p.m.
to midnight at the Jewish Community Center, 5738 Forbes Avenue.
Arlington Road will be closed from St.
Edmund's Way to Murray Avenue.
Residents may notice a large police presence in the area.
The exercise is closed to the public and the media.
The exercise is to ensure the area is prepared and ready to respond in an active shooter situation.
The exercise will include apprehending a shooter, evacuations, and treating victims at the scene.
At least 50 volunteers from the Squirrel Hill community and the Jewish Community Center staff will serve as role players for the exercise.
How many times, Dr. Fetzer, is there a drill involved?
This is a very common practice, Gary.
They do the drill to anticipate how they need to stage the event when it's going to be presented as a real one, to make sure they have the layout, the floor plan.
And just to work out obvious kinks, sometimes they'll take film footage as they did it, and then use it as though it were part of a real event that, you know, footage they actually took during the drill.
Right.
What has happened is that the drill was run in January.
The people gladly accepted the money from the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA to run the drill.
The police chief, the mayor, and others all did their part.
And so I was always wondering how, why is it that they do it so poorly?
But these guys in this particular event pulled out a piece of paper and read the usual You know, we like to have sympathy for the families.
Our prayers go out.
The first responders did a great job.
The police did a wonderful thing.
The FBI and everyone else.
So it looks like to me that they might be patsies, Jim, because nine months later, the footage that they put out is now being used in an all-out false flag.
What do you think?
Well, I think you got it right.
It is an October surprise in relation to the midterm.
The irony is here that this fellow was portrayed as anti-Trump.
I mean, he's portrayed as an anti-Semite, but also as anti-Trump.
So they're not quite able to get the bang for their buck that they anticipated.
That's probably the most interesting aspect of this entire event, because we have lots and lots of reasons for believing it's staged, but it's staged.
Maybe the anti-Trump aspect was to make it not so obvious what they were attempting to do, but you'll see how, when I report on all the information we have about it, how strenuously they're trying to make Trump out to be responsible regardless.
Yeah, exactly.
It seemed that they kept everyone very far away where you couldn't see the dummies and the obvious things that make for these hoaxes.
Now what I'd like to talk about, Jim, I believe this one is different.
I think you might as well begin to write the new book.
We just did the Parkland, or you just did the Parkland book.
I think there's going to need to be one for this one here because I think this one is going to be far-reaching and it may well just change everything.
Already locally in New Orleans, this is what I'm feeling and hearing on the street.
So everyone's heard during Hurricane Harvey and the Houston deluge and flooding there, that the Cajun Navy is to offer protection services to Louisiana synagogues following the Pittsburgh massacre.
So now instead of picking up people in boats, they're going to be actually Well, let's read here.
It's a little more clear to what they're going to do.
So, go ahead.
Members of the United Cajun Navy announced they would provide unarmed security at Louisiana synagogues following a massacre at a Jewish place of worship in Pittsburgh Saturday.
The announcement made on behalf of Todd Terrell, founder of the United Cajun Navy, came after 11 Jewish worshipers were brutally murdered in what officials believed to be a racially motivated attack on the life of Tree Synagogue.
The shooter is reported to have said he wanted all Jews to die.
It's hard to fathom that in the year 2018 we could still need security for people to openly worship their religion in the United States of America, as Terrell said in the latter.
I know that the resilience of the great Jewish people has been through much tougher tests than this, and that your flock will not be deterred by fear or hatred.
The letter was sent to two congregations in Baton Rouge and multiple others around Louisiana.
Brian Trasher, a spokesman for the United Cajun Navy, says the offer is extended well beyond the reach of the letter.
We sent the letter to the areas we knew we had the fastest reach, but we can organize volunteers in any area where we're needed.
So what we have, Dr. Fetzer, at this point in time, we have citizens policing the citizens.
All right, now I would like to play this clip and we'll discuss it right after that.
You get some good value.
It's a threat.
And you never know what state of mind people might be in.
It was particularly shocking.
Shocking, the headmaster at Country Day School in Metairie said after a racially charged threatening message was found written in a boys bathroom stall.
It's a scary moment right now.
I don't know what to think about the things that people, you know, the state of mind of everybody, and you just never know.
Country Days Public Relations Director Julie Bordas says someone wrote, and words are taking over this school, shoot him.
My daughter is not an emotional child.
She doesn't cry, she doesn't get upset easily.
She called me falling on the phone today.
Can you please come and get me?
Like, she was that upset.
Dr. Karen Paul is a Country Day alum and a parent of a biracial child at the school.
She said she's upset because the threat was found Friday, but parents weren't informed until Monday when this email was sent out.
I should have been notified on Friday.
And if he didn't want to cancel school, The decision should have been left up to me whether I wanted to remove my child from school.
And what if something horrible had happened?
Why weren't kids dismissed or let out of school that day if there was a threatening message?
Yeah, we talked as a team about our next steps, and we were trying to gather the team to work on it, and at the time, you know, it was Friday afternoon, so we were, um, you know, we didn't, we just decided to keep school open and work on the investigation.
If you could go back, would you do anything differently?
Or do you think this was handled the most appropriate way?
No, I think, yeah, that's...
That's a reasonable question.
You know, I've thought a lot about that.
My team and I will be working on that, of course, as we continue through the process of this incident and then reflecting on it.
But I do think that we, you know, we made difficult and important decisions.
What this is all about is someone wrote something on the bathroom stall and we have the principal of the school almost squirming in his pants.
Yeah.
Over this.
Yeah, well, Gary, it's pretty bizarre that you have such a dramatic reaction to something that's written on the bathroom wall.
And I think you're making the nice point that the country has become very much on edge over almost anything, where it appears very much that we're being played over anti-Semitism and fakery.
False flags on a small scale for the most part.
But let me talk about what we got here, Gary.
This is from State of the Nation.
False flag mass shooting, Pittsburgh Synagogue, targeted by Deep State with another white male Patsy.
What they're observing is this.
Just as Florida had its Parkland High School shooting, Connecticut had Sandy Hook, and Nevada had the Mandalay Bay Massacre, Pennsylvania's just had the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting.
Now it's ironic, Gary, that we've just published a book about the Parkland Puzzle, how the pieces fit together, because that was a completely fabricated event.
They sent the students home at 1 p.m.
in order to stage a shooting using officers that were, yes, dressed in SWAT gear, but they were firing simunition, simulated ammunition, The sheriff had to keep four deputies out because they weren't in the loop about the drill, and he was worried they might shoot one of the participants.
If you look there on the back cover, you'll see two frames from a wide-leap 52-second inside a classroom video.
Where it turns out that on the floor, you might initially think it's a body, but it turns out to be a training dummy with no arms, no head, lying in a pool of fake blood.
And you can see someone, you know, running in and out in a police uniform, but those aren't cops.
Turns out that Parkland gave up its police force in 2004, so they had actors on the scene.
This was to be used as a justification for the March for Our Lives that would occur on the 24th of March, about six weeks later.
But as many have observed, you need about six weeks just to arrange a bake sale at a local church.
This was very elaborate, involved tens of thousands of people, closing roadways, all kinds of performances, famous actors, and all that.
It was very elaborate.
And indeed, it turns out that the District of Columbia requires six months advance request for a permit, 180 days advance request for a permit.
Which we had confirmation was in fact done from one of the Metropolitan Police officers before he was reined in for letting the cat out of the bag.
So we have it all laid out here.
This was to use the March for Our Lives as a Democratic voter registration drive that received billions in free publicity.
And I think anyone who pays attention to what's going on here is going to realize that the Democrats are on a roll, that they've been manufacturing these events since Obama had the Smith-Mutt Act of 1948 modified by the Smith-Mutt Modernization Act of 2012 in time for Sandy Hook.
Well, we've been able to prove that it was a two-day FEMA drill, that they manufactured the kids.
They were fictions made out of photographs of older kids when they were younger, and that there was no one there.
The school had been abandoned by 2008.
It's a stunning situation, Gary, where you have one after another after another.
Mandalay Bay, similarly, actually, it was a movie.
They used a pre-recorded soundtrack.
of actual firing, coordinated with special visual effects in the middle of the hotel, where the sheriff has denied any shots were fired from anywhere but the 32nd floor on the wing.
From the middle of the hotel on the fourth floor, you had flashing lights to simulate a machine gun firing in coordination with the sound above it.
There were three light flashes simulating American military weapons, which fire in three-shot blasts.
And you had the crowd seated with crisis actors.
Crowds on demand in Los Angeles had been recruiting 15 days in advance for crisis actors.
We've done the job on this.
We'll be doing a book about it too.
We had one of my Facebook friends Call the three closest hospitals, and they confirmed they hadn't had a single gunshot admit he.
One said, I think you're calling about the drill, but no one died.
Check with the local police.
Mona Lexus Presley did brilliant work in tracking down the obituaries.
that were even published in USA Today and she found they were all based on people who died in different states or on different dates or from different causes of death.
We're going to find the situation is simulated in other of these cases.
Let me show something real quick before we go on to this.
It's really my job here tonight is to show what's happening locally over all this stuff.
Now this is a recent story And it's an active shooter drill that's going on citywide, and I want you to really listen to these people now.
It's really important to listen to these people.
The Orleans Parish School Board and the NOPD teaming up this morning, training officers and school staff on what to do in case there's an active shooter situation on a school campus.
Here to speak with us more about that and that specific training is Dr. Henderson Lewis.
Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
Can you speak a little bit more specifically about this training?
What are these people actually undergoing there?
This is a real life training.
This is not just someone just talking about active shooting on campus.
Actually, it has been a real life simulation.
I was able to actually observe the first scenario where someone came in and started shooting in a quote unquote faculty meeting and was able to actually feel the gunshots as they were being done the simulation of gunshots, I should say.
But this is real life.
This is where we are in our world today, and we want to make sure that we train our employees across the city.
We actually had a total of about 200 participants today from across the city with this training.
Okay, and talk to me a little bit more about that intensity.
As you're saying, this isn't your typical lockdown drill.
This is not your typical lockdown drill.
Again, to have NOPD SWAT team come in to protect The employees who were in this scenario and then to see the MET come in as well to go ahead and actually once the shooting was over to actually work on preserving life as well.
And so again, we know that these things happen in our work today, unfortunately, but it's so important that we provide leaders across the city so that if our students and our employees are at harm, we know how to respond accordingly.
Yeah, obviously we had the recent shooting, the Parkland shooting, and then some threats here locally.
What do you want to tell parents and students at home who may have concerns?
I always want our parents to know that our students' safety is our number one priority.
And that's why we're having this training here today.
We do know our school leaders throughout the school year continue to do Drills, lockdown, and shelter in place.
And this is one more way to make sure that our school leaders across the city are prepared.
And again, we're doing this in conjunction with the New Orleans Police Department.
Okay, and you're going to have a press conference at noon speaking a little bit more about that partnership, correct?
That is correct.
And it's so important that we continue to be able to work with NOPD because in a case of emergency, we do know that's who will respond to us.
And support what we need to have happen here.
All right, Dr. Lewis, thank you so much.
Some very important information there.
And again, that press conference happening at noon.
Make sure you stick with WGNO on air and online for the very latest on this story.
Back to you, Anne.
Dr. Sessler, he was happy that the SWAT teams were running in and out to school, shooting things and having people jump under the desk.
It's just amazing.
Yeah.
This is all over, a fictitious event, and if you want to know about it, there's a book on the screen right now.
But this is what's being implemented.
Every school, every single school is having police officers run in, shooting things up, people coming in, acting like there's something that's happened.
And you know, most of these kids would I've never heard anything like that in the halls.
It's all ludicrous, and it's designed to make a lot of money by turning our schools into veritable prisons with all kinds of security devices at great expense, Gary.
I think you and I discussed this ourselves.
Yeah, if you want to see that, it's on 153 News.
It's called Jim Fetzer's Safer Schools.
It's a Real Deal episode.
Yeah, that one really spells out the enormity of the money involved In fortifying these schools into basically prisons.
One of the students got it right, you see, just above those two frames from the 52 second live leak video inside the classroom that exposes the whole thing as a charade.
We had a student being interviewed and she said it was like a movie.
It looked so real but it felt so fake.
She had it exactly right, Gary.
She knew that fakery was taking place.
So here we have that the Obama people understand the use of this kind of fraud.
You got David Axelrod, his advisor.
In Chicago, there was an old tradition of throwing a brick through your own campaign office window and then calling a press conference to say you've been attacked.
Well, that was back in 2010.
He actually made that observation in NPR.
People ought to appreciate what it means here because this is their game plan.
We also have in this report about Israel from the State of the Nation.
They're about to launch a major invasion against Gaza.
They've assembled 80 to 100 tanks.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is under fierce threat of prosecution, forced to wag the dog for his political survival.
We know the meaning of that.
A correspondent of mine in Toronto, who was called by his friends Mr. Conspiracy because of his interest in this, was in a bar when a friend came up to him while all this was going on and asked, he said, so is this also a fake?
And he said, well, We can tell if Bibi Netanyahu shows up within the next three minutes, and sure enough, there he was, Bibi Netanyahu, within the next three minutes, heartbroken and appalled by the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, we have
...talking about 11 people being confirmed dead and there's more something interesting about the number because we have 11 dead and six that are supposed to be wounded and of course that corresponds to the November 6th, the month and the day for the midterm.
It turns out that on the collateral damage, they took out a social network gab that apparently was very critical of Israel.
So they wanted to get rid of gab.
This gave them an excuse to get rid of gab.
Rather fascinating stuff.
Here was now Howard Dean.
And this is embarrassing to me, Gary, because there was a time when I admired Howard Dean.
I thought he'd make a great president of the United States.
Today, I retract any confidence I ever had in him.
I published this as well as those other articles on my new blog at jamespetzer.org, and here I added the following note.
The First Amendment was not intended to protect popular speech, which requires no protection, but unpopular, even offensive speech.
That Howard Dean, the former head of the DNC, whom I once admired, should make such an absurd declaration in violation of the rights granted by the Constitution, tells me that the Democratic Party in its current incarnation does not represent the public interest.
Well, I voted twice for Bill and twice more for Barack.
Anyone who votes Democrat today will be trashing the precious heritage of our Bill of Rights for no worthy purpose.
Political correctness has driven the party completely insane.
And I mean that quite literally.
And of course, as you're observing, Gary, as you determine, the Department of Homeland Security ran a safety drill at the very Tree of Life Synagogue there in Pittsburgh.
So you're absolutely right.
Now before it's news, it's offered some rather stunning evidence here.
Fake synagogue shooting.
So the FBI in circle claim a known FBI murderer walked into a synagogue 30 minutes before the doors opened and killed 11 people.
Really?
Is the FBI so stupid as to leave this kind of trail?
The calls began coming in at 9.54 a.m.
The doors did not open until 10 a.m.
No cars parked outside the synagogue.
It appears to be completely fraudulent.
Here's a nice piece from State of the Nation.
Everything points to a synagogue massacre that did not take place.
No bodies, no injuries, no ambulances, no stretchers, no blood, no video of a single victim, no interviews with congregants or rabbis present, no photos of a single piece of real evidence, nothing whatsoever has been presented that proves a synagogue massacre even happened.
But here was the photo quite conveniently taken of a SWAT team member conspicuously carrying the AR-15 assault rifle that was allegedly used in the mass shooting.
Gary, this is embarrassingly bad.
You're actually holding it by the gunstock.
What's the part that goes into the... where you put the bullets into the gun?
Well, not...
Oh, no, actually there he's holding it by the handle, if you think it's a first.
I thought it was the second who was carrying the weapon, but they're very similar.
He's not holding it by the magazine.
I mean, that was the ridiculous event that occurred at Sandy Hook.
We're talking about Larry, Lenny Posner, but I'm telling you in this episode, there is a man just like this one, except he's holding his gun upside down.
By the, um, I don't know what to call it.
By the magazine, is it?
That happened at Sandy Hook!
Yeah, there is the picture in here.
I can find it for you, I promise you that.
Okay, okay.
Well, Gary, then that's just insulting us.
That's just rubbing it in our faces.
Here we have the alleged synagogue shooter being an avid anti-Trump Nazi who believed the President was controlled by the Jews.
The alleged shooter responsible for Saturday morning's deadly shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh is an anti-Trump fanatic and believes the President is controlled by Jews, according to posts he made on his social media.
Robert Bowers, a suspected shooter, killed at least eight, now it says.
Actually, it turned out to be 11 when they added it up.
And wounded a number of others during a weekly Shabbat service would often post his anti-Trump ratings online.
I think this was to make it less obvious that they were going to have the final number be 11 and 6.
Here we have more.
Alleged synagogue shooter penned haunting final message before killing at least eight.
For the record, I did not vote for him, nor have I, old warner, ever even touched a mega hat.
That's, of course, Make America Great Hat, the suspected shooter wrote.
Cuban-American producer Bobby Starbuck posted the shooter's ratings on Twitter.
His profile clearly illustrates he's a Nazi, admired Hitler, hates Trump, believes Trump is controlled by Jews, he did not vote for Trump, so of course we're going to hold Trump responsible.
In fact, here you have Jewish leaders saying Trump not welcome in Pittsburgh until he denounces white nationalism.
Now this is very interesting, Gary, because it's part of the The theme we encountered in Charlottesville, which was again another constructed event to transform Trump from an America First guy who wanted to reallocate the resources we're squandering in the Middle East to benefit Americans here at home, into an American nationalist, into a white supremacist, into a neo-Nazi.
But, you know, all that was completely staged.
In fact, the mother of the alleged victim, Heather Heyer, who was supposed to have been killed in an organized stage automobile event, where they actually had two different cars, both Dodge Challengers, one with a black stripe, one without, one with a sunroof, one without, one with a black stripe, one without, one with a sunroof, one without, two different drivers, one a 32-year-old military veteran who commands a brigade, a reserve brigade in Ohio, versus a 20-year-old diagnosed schizophrenic
It turns out the actual driver was a 32-year-old military veteran.
They had two or even three takes of the crash where Heather was supposed to die, but she didn't.
She actually died the following day from a heart attack, and yet the woman who played her mother, Susan Rowe, turns out to be the same person, the same crisis actor who played the mother, Donna Soto, of Victoria Soto, one of the teachers at Sandy Hook. of Victoria Soto, one of the teachers at Sandy Hook.
Gary, it's that bad.
They're recycling their crisis actors.
And here you have, again, this is from Haaretz, which is a principal newspaper in Israel.
Trump didn't pull the trigger on Jews in Pittsburgh, but he certainly prepped the shooter.
Let me just add, The shooters complain that Trump seems to be too much controlled by Jews.
I think that's a perfectly legitimate complaint because if you read the Fire and Fury book, for example, by Michael Wolff about the campaign, you'll discover how much his advisors were Zionists.
They were really Israel firsters.
And certainly we have in John Bolton and Mike Pompeo a couple of adamant Zionists who are putting the interests of Israel ahead of that of the United States so that while Trump started off I think as a candidate on the right track in relation to his policy in the Middle East, Where he was declaring the desire to get us out of the Middle East and reallocate our resources to put America first.
I think at this point in time, it's correct to describe him as the captive of the neocons with regard to his Middle East policy.
It's very disturbing.
Here's yet another study of this from Vivian Lee, who's been a contributor to my books on Sandy Hook, on the Boston bombing, and others, including, you know, the Parkland book.
Pittsburgh synagogue shooting questions and anomalies.
She raises a lot of very serious questions.
Who is this Robert Bowers?
Who is this abhorrent character previously known to law enforcement only through a traffic ticket?
An angry man turned insane mass murderer.
Details are reported are to be believed.
Bowers has been charged with 29 federal criminal counts including obstructing the free exercise of religious belief, a hate crime, using a firearm to commit murder, In addition, he faces state charges including 11 accounts of criminal homicide, 6 counts of aggravated assault, 13 counts of ethnic intimidation.
Billed as a raging anti-Semite, he reportedly shouted, all Jews must die before opening fire, and he told a cop, I just wanted to kill Jews.
I mean, this is like a caricature.
Although reported as a real event by the corporate media, there are suggestions this may actually have been a drill.
As with other fake shootings, the action, or rather inaction, at the scene is troubling.
Policemen in SWAT gear, EMTs, and others are shown standing around or walking casually, with no one exhibiting any sense of urgency or fear.
Despite the claim of Dr. Donald Yealy, Chairman of Emergency Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, That experts would dispatch to the scene to help accomplish triage.
There's no evidence of colored tarps for stark triage procedure near the synagogue.
The whole thing, in other words, shows a lot of the same symptoms we found at Sandy Hook.
No surge of EMTs into the building.
No string of ambulances to rush the little bodies off to hospitals where they could be declared dead or alive.
No medevac helicopter called.
No bodies on triage.
Gary, I know you want to add some comments.
I'm just saying that we've seen this movie so many times and it's very distressing that people just cannot seem to get it because if you tell a lot of people this information they will just think that you're crazy.
And here, Vivian continues, gun grab and security state.
As in common in alleged mass shootings, the shooter was carrying multiple weapons, an assault rifle as well as handguns.
Like Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook, Bowers had an AR-15 style assault rifle and a Glock pistol, although he had two additional handguns instead of one.
How did he carry all these weapons?
And did he have extra ammunition?
Bowers was found to have 21 guns registered to his name.
Obviously another crazy gun nut who should not have been allowed to own all these weapons.
As with other mass shootings, the calls for stricter gun laws are pouring forth in the media.
Even though, as Kanye West observed in the Oval Office, legal guns aren't the problem, it's illegal guns.
And here you have Hollywood types jumping on board, tweeting up a storm, hoping to influence the midterm election.
John Cusack, for example.
Just heard about Pittsburgh.
All this violence and hatred begins to end with your vote.
The GOP must go every last one.
And their KKK leader, the arch-criminal Trump, must be driven out of power.
Gary, this is embarrassingly bad.
Embarrassingly bad.
I want to say I think we have clues to what's going on here from this classic from 2013 where an Israeli Minister of Education talked about the tactics they use to persuade public opinion to benefit the Jewish people.
A lot of people need to see and hear this amazing video where a former Israeli Minister of Education, among other titles, admits That calling people anti-semitic is just a trick.
Also admits that bringing up the Holocaust in the face of criticism is just another trick used by Jews in Europe.
Also mentions a powerful Jewish establishment in America and how they use these tricks to justify what the Israelis do to the Palestinians.
And now it's used as a very popular defense mechanism against criticism of Israel's vile acts.
Gary?
All right.
And I know you can edit all this, make it come out right.
Yeah, we'll just keep rolling.
Alright, so I think we're ready to go with her.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, Gary.
Yours is a voice of criticism we don't often hear in the United States.
Often when there is Well, it's a trick.
We always use it.
When, from Europe, somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring out the Holocaust.
When, in this country, people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.
And the organization is strong and has a lot of money, and the The ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are very strong, and they are strong in this country.
As you know, they have power, which is okay.
They are talented people, and they have power, money, and media, and other things.
And their attitude is, Israel, my country, right or wrong.
They identify.
And they are not ready to hear criticism.
And it's very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic and to bring up the Holocaust and the suffering of the Jewish people.
And that justifies everything we do to the Palestinians.
Leave it.
Yeah, keep it run.
Yeah.
That was one revealing, very revealing comment there.
It is pretty fascinating, isn't it, Gary, that you get these candid observations about why they talk that way, basically, right?
Yeah, what I'd like to say is what she's talking about is we have 503 congressmen and senators, and each and every one is asked to sign the oath to Israel, which means that they will
Well, Cynthia McKinney explained how when a new member of Congress arrives in Washington, they're asked to sign a pledge to put the interests of Israel ahead of those of the United States.
And those who refuse to sign, who are few as you observed to me recently in terms of the present Congress, at the time you asked the question, there was only exactly one That they find themselves confronted with a well-financed alternative candidate or that their district has been redrawn and they no longer have a seat.
Cynthia McKinney was able to transcend those obstacles to serve eight terms in Congress in the House, but even as notable a figure as Dennis Kucinich, whom I regarded at the time as the smartest member of Congress,
Found his district was redrawn and he was not so it's embarrassingly bad Yes, so people need to really stop and think about about how every single person in Congress and the Senate Have taken an oath to Israel and quite a few of them are actually Israeli American citizens where their allegiance goes to Israel That's right, that's right, that's right.
It turns out that it's well understood among the Israelis that their greatest source of political strength is a Western guilt over the Holocaust.
In other words, we feel guilty for allowing six million Jews to die in gas chambers using Zyklon B. However, if you actually dig into the matter, you find none of that is true.
We're not talking about six million.
It turns out to have no historical or scientific basis.
There were no gas chambers.
Zyklon B was being used but to preserve the health of the inmates because these were not centers for extermination.
They were labor camps and you get work out of a corpse.
So I published some time back a piece entitled, The Holocaust Narrative Politics Trump Science, where I was inspired by the brilliant new book just published by Nick Kohlerstrom entitled, Breaking This Spell.
Gary, it was interesting to me how you said, you observed in the beginning, it's as though a spell has been cast over the country about, you know, as a consequence of this Pittsburgh thing.
It turns out you have to distinguish myth from reality.
The situation is completely absurd.
No subject generates responses as extreme and irrational as what has come to be known as the Holocaust.
Unlike any other event in human history, including even the most sacred religious beliefs, For anyone to question, dispute, or deny its occurrence qualifies as a hate crime, where Holocaust denial is even a prosecutable offense in certain jurisdictions.
How much are we hearing about hate crime and hate speech this very day, Jim?
That's right.
They want to politicize something that really has no basis in the Constitution.
As I was mentioning before, in commenting about Howard Dean, I mean, the protection for freedom of speech is so you can say any damn thing you want.
I mean, you know, the only exception is, say, calling fire in a theater where it could lead to death of a lot of people.
But I mean, you're supposed to be able to freely criticize Israel, the government of Israel, the government of the United States, and so forth.
But in fact, the way they're using it, they're making all that forbidden.
This is political correctness gone amok.
Unlike any other, this crime involves the expression of forbidden thoughts about a subject that has become taboo.
The underlying desideratum is whether history is supposed to be accurate and true, or as Voltaire has put it, merely a back of lives and living play upon the dead.
Just so we know what we're talking about, in its broadest outlines, the Holocaust can be defined by means of three primary elements, which I shall designate here as Hypotheses H1, H2 and H3.
H1, that Hitler was attempting to exterminate the Jews and succeeded by putting around 6 million to death.
H2, that many of those deaths were brought about by the use of cyanide gas in chambers for that purpose.
And H3, that the chemical agent that brought about those deaths was Zyklon B, to which the victims were subjected.
Now, it turns out, Gary, the science of the Holocaust does not leave any room for doubt about H2 and H3, since the laws of biochemistry and of materials science, laws which cannot be violated and cannot be changed, entail that the bodies of those who are put to death using cyanide turn pink.
Well, the walls of chambers used for that purpose would turn blue, but none of the bodies from those camp has been reported to have been pink.
An examination of the gas chambers has determined that none of them turned blue, which means that H2 and H3 are not simply false, but have been scientifically refuted.
Indeed, it turns out then, with regard to H1, there are 236 references to 6 million Jews prior to the Nuremberg trial announcement beginning as early as 1890, Gary.
Here's an example in 1900.
American Zionist leader Rabbi Stephen Wise lets sit the Zionist agenda behind the Holocaust hoax to promote public sympathy for Zionism.
Rabbi Weiss stated, the day will never come when I will care less for Zion when there will be anyone who has strived more for the glorious ideals of Zion.
There are six million living, breeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.
You'll find this many places.
Begs America.
Massacre threatens all Jews as Soviet power wanes, declares Kremlin coming here for aid, makes America save 6 million in Russia.
Russia's 6 million Jews are facing extermination by massacre.
It turns out that term 6 million, however, had no scientific or empirical basis.
Not only that, but we had trials involving Ernst Zondel, who was a prominent Canadian who denied the historical ...authenticity of the Holocaust and was put on trial in 1985, and then after the conclusion of that trial was dismissed, tried again in 1988.
During his first trial, Zondel had been sentenced to 15 months in prison, but it was thrown out in 1987.
A new trial began in 1988.
I participated in the preparation for the unfolding of the judicial proceedings.
I devoted thousands of hours to the defense of Ernst Sundell.
This is from Robert Floreson, the leading revisionist historian who just died this past week.
Now talking about the second Zundel trial in 1988.
In January 1987, a five-judge appeals court decided to throw out the 1985 verdict against Zundel for some very basic reasons.
Judge Hugh Locke had not allowed the defense any influence in the jury selection process.
The jury had been misled by the judge on the very meaning of the trial.
I've attended many trials in my life, including some carried out in France during the period of the Purge at the end and after World War II.
Never have I encountered a judge so partial, autocratic, and violent as Judge Hugh Locke.
Anglo-Saxon law offers many more guarantees than French law, but it only takes one man to pervert the best of systems.
Judge Locke was such a man.
The second trial began on January 18, 1988, under the direction of Judge Ronald Thomas, who was a friend, it seems, of Judge Law.
Judge Thomas was often angry and was frankly hostile to the defense, but he had more finesse than his predecessor.
The ruling by the five-judge appeal court also inhibited him somewhat.
Judge Hugh Law had imposed numerous restrictions on free expression by the witnesses and experts for the defense.
For example, he forbade me to use any of the photos I'd taken at Auschwitz.
I have no right to use arguments of a chemical, cartographical, or architectural nature, even though I had been the first person in the world to publish the plans for the Auschwitz and Birkenau crematories.
I was not allowed to talk about either American gas chambers or the aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz and Birkenau.
Even the testimony of the eminent chemist William Lindsay was cut short.
Judge Ronald Thomas did allow the defense more freedom, but at the outset of the trial he made a decision at the request of the prosecution that would tie the hands of the jury.
Let me mention, by the way, that during the first trial, the prosecution was unable to present a single witness who could testify to having seen anyone put to death in a gas chamber.
There was a sensational turn of events during the second trial.
Ernst Zundel, in possession of the correspondence I have exchanged in 1977-78 with six American penitentiaries outfitted with gas chambers, gave Attorney Barbara Kulizaka the job of getting in touch with the chief wards of those penitentiaries in order to see if one of them would agree to appear in court to explain how a real gas chamber operates.
Bill Ormantrout, Chief Warden of the Penitentiary at Jefferson City, Missouri, agreed to testify, and in doing so pointed out that no one in the USA was more knowledgeable about the functioning of the gas chambers than Fred Lochter, an engineer from Boston.
I went to visit Lochter on February 3rd and 4th, 1988.
I found that he had never asked himself any questions about the gas chambers in German camps.
He had simply believed in their existence.
After I began to show him my files, he became aware of the chemical and physical impossibility of determined gassings and he agreed to examine our documents in Toronto.
After that, at Zondel's expense, he left for Poland with a secretary, his wife, a draftsman, a video cameraman, and an interpreter.
He came back and drew up a 192-page paper, including appendices.
He also brought back 32 samples taken, on the one hand, from the crematories of Auschwitz and Birkenau, at the site of the homicidal gassings, and on the other, in a disinfection gas chamber in Birkenau.
His conclusion was simple.
There had never been any homicidal gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau or Magendeck.
And here's actually from inside what is supposed to be one of the locations where it turns out that the room, the alleged gas chamber, has two toilet drains, two manholes, although they were probably added, but it wasn't suitable to serve as a gas chamber.
Here you see Gurmar Rudolph inspecting a delousing chamber where they did use Zykon B, which turned the walls blue, as you can see.
And here from one of the four delousing chambers, you could control the opener from the outside where the Zyklon pellet slid through the pipe into a wire mesh basket at the bottom through which warm air was conducted.
But this wasn't to murder inmates, this was to conduct delousing to maintain the health of the inmates.
because as I previously observed, these were labor camps and you can't get work out of a course.
It turns out that the six million number is derivative from a disputed passage in Leviticus.
In other words, it has a theoretical basis, not historical or scientific, which has been interpreted to mean that the chosen people can return to the promised land only when there are minus six million who have been consumed in the flames, except that even requires an which has been interpreted to mean that the chosen people can return to the promised land only when there are minus six million who have
When the International Committee of the Red Cross recalibrated their records in 1993, where they had kept copious notes on every death in all of the camps, including the name, the age, the where they had kept copious notes on every death in all of the camps, including the name, the age, the sex, the nationality, the ethnicity,
They found, although here in their preliminary, 271,301, when they recalibrated, the number was 296,081, none of whom died from being put to death in a gas chamber.
The reason there was a lot of starvation in the camps is because the Allies had conducted mass bombings of German cities and interdicted the railroad line.
There was no plot by Hitler to exterminate the Jews.
They were instead being used in the labor camps, but once the Allies had interdicted the railroad lines, it was impossible to resupply them.
So they were in very bad health when the Allies finally liberated.
On the other hand, Here are children from the Buchenwald camp who appear to be relaxed, well-fed, and trusting of adults around them.
Buchenwald experiences a bit of a problem with tourists who come expecting to show in the gas chambers and they have to be told, sorry, there never were any.
Here you have healthy looking children again at Birkenau being liberated by the Red Army.
Notice they're not showing signs of starvation.
Here's Auschwitz, of course the most notorious of them all, but when you study the map of Auschwitz it's really truly fascinating because it turns out to have all sorts of facilities there Not what you would expect if this actually were a center of extermination.
Seven, for example, is a hospital with a surgical unit with an OBGYN block for inmates, quarantine areas for newly arriving prisoners.
Indeed, it's a fascinating fact.
About these alleged exterminating centers that hundreds of children were born there, which you most certainly would not expect to be the case.
Were the official narrative true?
8 crematorium gas chambers, 9 workshops for woodworking and sewing, 10 a brothel, art museum and library, 11 Orchestra Blade Sunday concerts here, 12 kitchen with 13 coal-fired stoves, a bakery and a butcher shop, a post office, I'm telling you, the whole story is completely mythological.
It has no foundation or fact.
I was completely stunned when I discovered in Nick Colerston's book, Illustration 28, the British football team at Auschwitz looking very fit and healthy indeed because they had sports activities for the inmates.
I published about this in the original and now the second edition of our second book from Moonrock following Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, where my co-editor Mike Palachuk suggested, in response to the title of the first one, my reply, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, if Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
Well, we didn't go to the moon either, but in addition to expose about the moon landings, where I featured, we had four chapters about the death and replacement of Paul McCartney, Which to my astonishment, Gary, generates as much emotional response as even the moon landing or the Holocaust.
Two chapters about the first death of Saddam Hussein, who was killed in a B-1 bomber strike outside at a restaurant in Baghdad on the 7th of April, just three weeks into the invasion.
Where he was replaced by a dumbbell who was put on trial and hanged.
And then two chapters about the second death of Osama bin Laden, who actually died on 15 December 2001, was buried in an unmarked grave.
He'd been our man in Afghanistan, instrumental in supplying the Mujahideen with stinger missiles to shoot down the Russian helicopters and planes.
He actually was an official with the CIA.
Colonel Tim Osman, an agency officer, visited him in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death on 15 December 2001.
Nick Kohlestrom has a wonderful article about it on my blog, the new blog being at jamesfetzer.org.
And then four chapters in the original about the Holocaust.
Now we have added for the second edition five new fantasies, including a brilliant new essay about the moon landing by Dennis Camino, two more about Paul and his replacement, and then two more about the Holocaust, my own essay, and that by Robert Forasan on the Zondel Trials.
So Gary, it's really a fascinating situation we have here where, you know, with a country, not just the United States, not just the people of America, but the whole world has been played for a con game by the whole of Hoax.
Because there's no scientific, no historical basis for it whatsoever.
And yet, as we had the former Israeli Minister of Education explain, they use it to silence their critics all the time.
This must come to an end, Gary.
All this fakery, all this hokery, all these lies and deceptions has to come to an end.
They have to break the spell, just like Nick said.
And we have a spell cast on us.
And I just pray, I really pray that the people can see through this, just how thinly veiled it is.
Believe it or not, I have friends that are actually waking up to this, that it took a long time.
But they're just saying, there's nothing to see.
They just have these Lenny Posner type guys walking around.
And so I believe that there's something really brewing, Dr. Fetzer.
I don't know if they're afraid.
I don't know if they're planning The whole deal is to try to stop Trump.
They're hoping that the midterm elections will give control back to the Democrats.
It's not going to happen, Gary.
I think these events are backfiring.
The Kavanaugh hearings, for example, where they had these fabricated sexual abuse allegations all backfired.
None of them had any substance.
Senator Jeff Flake did the country a great service by insisting on a supplemental FBI investigation which exposed there was no support or substance to any of the allegations brought against him.
So their effort to defeat Kavanaugh from getting on the court was a complete failure and exposed the Democrats' hypocrisy.
They didn't cooperate.
There was a mass of evidence.
I've exposed it too.
We have a brand new book on Kavanaugh we're completing the editing of today.
It's in the works, Gary.
And then, of course, the massive caravan.
That's backfired, too, because when you see these images of massive hordes of migrants coming toward the border, it could not be a better political campaign ad for building the wall.
Americans are understanding we have to enforce our borders.
My immigration is a major issue.
It's just as Kanye West said about guns, that legal guns aren't the problem, it's the illegal guns.
Where Chicago provides a stunning example of the inadequacy of gun control laws, we gotta get rid of them.
The countries that have the highest gun ownership have the lowest homicide rates in the world, Gary.
When everyone is allowed to pack concealed carry, you don't have criminals.
Who try to pull off these stunts because they're no longer in a free fire zone.
And therefore, I think we have to come to grips with this illustration of the migration being perfect of how national security requires an armed citizen population.
I go back frequently in discussing these matters, not only to the need for personal and family security.
If you call the police in the hope they'll show up because they're armed to protect you from an intruder.
It takes them on the average as long as 20 minutes, but mayhem takes place in the first five or six.
So by the time the police show up, if you don't have weapons to protect yourself, your daughter may have been raped, your wife may have been murdered, you may have been mugged.
With regard to community or social security, you have this community at Deerfield outside of Chicago where they're fining their residents $1,000 a day if they have weapons that they've forbidden.
Which is absurd.
What if there are riots in Chicago and they spill over to Deerfield and they're looting and beating up and killing the population?
Deerfield will be unable to defend itself.
Shamoza Motorcycle Gang came to town and started looting and raping the people.
Again, Deerfield would be unable to cope with it.
Before World War II, before the attack on Pearl Harbor, Emmer Hirohito consulted with his military generals and staff about invading the United States.
They advised against it because they said there'd be a sniper behind every blade of grass.
If you take weapons away from the American people, If you officiate the Second Amendment, we can't defend ourselves.
This migrant hoard is a perfect illustration, Gary.
Everyone should get the message.
It's not only a matter of personal or family security.
It's not only a matter of community or social security.
It's a matter of national security.
And one reason we've remained a great free country is because we have over 100 million armed Americans today.
I promised to tell this story on the show.
I have a female friend who's a teacher, and over all these shootings and stuff, she was asked to go into a training class where they had dummies on the floor, and the guts had spilled out, and she was to be trained how to put guts back in the people.
And she actually walked out on the class because she just felt it was just too absurd.
And so that's the stuff that's going on today.
This happened today.
She walked out today because they expected her to go into a classroom and learn how to stuff guts and back in people.
Jim, we've got to break the spell.
Gary, you said it.
Well, I'm so glad you had the idea of doing this Real Deal today.
I'm very grateful to you for that.
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