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Aug. 22, 2018 - Jim Fetzer

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Host - Michael Volin from WOBC interviews Dr. Jim Fetzer, "The Most Dangerous Mind in America"

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	Okay, good evening, everybody.
	This is Mike Vollen.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	I apologize for last week's show.
	Excuse me, the week before, we had technical difficulties.
	I decided not to do a show last week.
	Until I got an assurance from Blog Talk Radio that we were going to be having no problems tonight.
	And we went back and forth a little bit via email.
	I'm surprised that they don't supply customer service via telephone.
	And they don't.
	And I'm wondering why.
	I know at one time I did speak to them on telephone, but this time they had informed me that We would not be able to contact me via telephone, and I was pretty adamant about them contacting me anyway.
	Tonight we have Professor James Fetzer.
	He's going to be talking tonight about a whole cadre of things.
	Current state of affairs of our government, if there is one, Deep State, Sandy Hook, and the list goes on and on.
	He's quite the expert in the Sandy Hook.
	I'd like to thank our last guest before we had to end.
	That was Montgomery Blair Sibley.
	And we had discussed about Robert Mueller.
	Was he authorized to have any investigation?
	I mean, we went into special investigator versus independent investigator.
	That's what it used to be called.
	And we went back and forth with that a little bit.
	We talked about Title 18, Section 600.
	Whether he was authorized to actually conduct any investigation and the powers that he had.
	If he did have any power, which we came to the conclusion that he didn't, what was he doing?
	And you can read the news today, you can see.
	He's on a wild, which one?
	What are you going after?
	What are you finding?
	People that have parking tickets?
	Is that what this is all about?
	And the press, of course, our friends in the press are aiding and abetting him.
	All kinds of crazy stories.
	I read one on Yahoo News tonight about Melania Trump, First Lady, having an obscene dress because her necktie was tied in some form or fashion that could screw the message that she was trying to deliver if there was one.
	Are these people crazy?
	Have we really lost our minds in the press?
	It's a different world today, and every day that I look at it, it gets worse and worse, and I'm shocked.
	Okay, once again, Dr. Fetzer will be with us.
	I believe he's holding on.
	Next week, we're going to have Walter Myers, a political consultant.
	He's agreed to be on the show.
	We've tried to get him on in the past.
	It just didn't work out.
	And wait till you hear Mr. Myers, what he has to say.
	Way back to the 60s, he's organizing Trying to get I'm not going to say protesting demonstrating anything like that trying to bring the word What was wrong?
	Marching and rallying nothing violent crazy like that Just trying to make connections in the government and trying to show what's right.
	What's wrong?
	Taking these politicians and telling them stop listen to the people that went back to the 60s And he had a lot of connections we spoke about but 35 minutes Middle of the last week, and he's great.
	I can't wait to get him on the show, finally.
	Okay, I'd like to thank Miss Ruth, the lovely Miss Ruth, as always, call screening tonight.
	If you want to call in and get on the air, and I suggest you do, and I take a lot of calls, and I'm looking forward to take a lot of calls, 347-989-8853.
	347-989-8853.
	I have to push the number one button.
	You have to push the number one button.
	That puts up a little flag, sort of like raises your hand sitting in school that you want Ms.
	Ruth will screen you, and I'll know that you want to get on the air.
	And be polite, and we'll go from there.
	No unidentified numbers.
	You have to have your number in the caller ID of my call screener switchboard, otherwise you will not get on the air, unless it's pre-arranged and we know who you are.
	We've had people sneak on.
	I'll give you a quick example.
	We had a gentleman came on.
	He's a grandfather using his granddaughter's phone, doesn't want her to have her number exposed, I said to Ruth, is he legit?
	She said, yep.
	We got him on the air.
	Took about 10 seconds before his political rant and rave went off.
	And I hung up on him.
	That's not what you said you wanted to talk about.
	And you got your 10 seconds on this show.
	Congratulations.
	It will never happen again.
	I'd like to thank Miss Mona.
	Miss Mona, thank you very much.
	I spoke to her earlier today.
	She said she would join us.
	She was an instrument at the beginning of, uh, seven and a half years ago of getting this radio station together.
	Did a lot of call screening, um, we met with her, we just recently met with her, and, um, a lot of blogging, and she's great.
	And, um, I believe she's now, uh, assisting Dr. Fetzer.
	Call Gallups, call gallups.com and Mike Zullo.
	You know where we came from here at WOBC?
	You know what we started for Sheriff Joe Arpaio years ago?
	You know that we went to every member of Congress, not me personally, members of my team, although I did go to a lot.
	You know we mailed out sheriff kits to everybody.
	Every sheriff in the United States, thank you Commander Kirshner.
	Every governor, every attorney general.
	We came to the conclusion that we were up against a brick wall, mainly Congress, anything inside D.C.
	Didn't want to hear it.
	At the beginning, we heard race riots.
	You don't want to challenge a black president.
	You're a racist.
	That's why you're doing this.
	Not a racist.
	I have black grandchildren.
	Got nowhere.
	And throughout the years in the investigation, everybody wanted, everybody wanted it now.
	Give out all the information.
	Asking Mike, lay it all on the table.
	Well, if he did, where would it have gone?
	It didn't go anywhere when we put it right up, right in front of Congress' faces.
	It didn't even strike a nerve.
	There were some, I have to admit, and there was a few that agreed and were afraid of re-election, of getting on a committee.
	I don't know, still baffles my mind.
	Where's that Congressman that Wants to step forward.
	And as the years went on and became harder and harder, we still have, we've had congressmen, we've had ACT sitting congressmen come on this show, and I've asked them, I told them when I was going to ask them about the birth certificate controversy, and other documents like Selective Service Registration Form, which was proven to be a phony.
	If you haven't watched the video, it's on my website, where'sobamabirthcertificate.com.
	And they came out and they pointed the finger of Carl Gauf's Mike Zulu at John Brennan, which they did a year ago.
	It all goes back to three-letter agency.
	It's all tied together with the spying, the networking.
	I'm going to ask Dr. Fetzer when I get him on the air about this, and then we'll elaborate a little bit more.
	Here we go again with John Brennan.
	Now he pulled the security clearance.
	Great!
	Because he was still working against the government.
	Why should you even have a security clearance if you're not in the position?
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, I'd like to thank all my Facebook and Twitter fans.
	Thank you very much.
	And it seems like we're still on the air.
	Thank you.
	I was getting a little nervous.
	I am at Facebook, Michael Volan.
	I am at Twitter, Mike Volan, at Michael Volan.
	Thank you.
	I have a lot of Twitter fans.
	I have reached a limit on my Facebook, so thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'd like to thank Ed Sunderland.
	Thank you, Ed.
	My co-host does shows when I don't do shows, Monday night.
	I like to do my show because it's my time slot and I'm available Monday nights.
	I'd like to thank Ms.
	Andrea Shea King, another radio host.
	She was scheduled to be on the second half two weeks ago with Dr. Fetzer, but I offered her another time slot tonight.
	Unfortunately, she could not accept it.
	She's busy.
	She's always busy.
	If you're a member of her Facebook page, The information that's out there, that she posts, and the research that she does, it's phenomenal.
	Look up Andrea Shea King.
	And she even posted tonight, she said, be careful.
	She wants everything to be sourced and referenced.
	That's how we like to do it here.
	One last shout out, Sharon Rondeau from the Post email.
	Thank you, Ms.
	Rondeau.
	She's been a guest on the show.
	She publishes articles for us.
	Regarding us about us.
	Thank you very much.
	I've actually met her met a lot of my colleagues I've traveled all over the country and met a lot of people.
	Thank you miss Sharon Rondo and does a great job Okay three four seven nine eight nine eight eight five three.
	I see a lot of you have called and Driving down the road.
	We got a lot of truckers.
	Thank you truckers for keeping America moving without truckers We where would we be if you touched it a trucker bought it?
	Thank you truckers and the chat room.
	I have the chat room open.
	Everybody chat room.
	Thank you very much.
	We always get comments and we take questions from the chat room.
	Okay, one last thing.
	My phone number, my cell number, not the call number.
	Yes, we have a cell number.
	We've had one for quite a long time.
	Years.
	570-284-7477 570-284-7477 You call that number Somebody here answers.
	570-284-7477.
	If it's not me, 95% of the time, it's me.
	If you leave a voicemail, I will call you back.
	Thank you very much.
	Wow.
	We're really lighting up the switchboard here.
	Great.
	Okay.
	Um, we're going to bring on our featured guests for tonight.
	We have them on for at least an hour, possibly two.
	And I'd like to say welcome Dr. Fetster.
	We are finally on the air.
	Well, Michael, I'm delighted to be on with you at last.
	Yeah, terrific.
	I'm glad we worked through those technical problems.
	I encounter a surprising number of them far more frequent than would be appropriate if they were merely coincidental.
	And you're right.
	And other social medias are actually censoring, you know, they actually have people 24 hours, seven days a week that monitor things.
	I know they have computer algorithms that can watch what you post, and if you get too rapid.
	But when I try to post my show on Facebook, I only get to post it 10 times via Messenger, and then it tells me that they've deemed my post offensive.
	And they shut my Messenger down for a few minutes.
	Right, Michael.
	I mean, being offensive is a purely subjective criterion.
	Something offensive to one person at one time might not be offensive to them at another time.
	Something offensive to someone is not therefore offensive to someone else at the same time.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	It's like this notion of hate.
	They found a novel way to talk about what they don't want to hear.
	In other words, if you're speaking inconvenient truths that upset the deep state, then It's a truth that they hate, and therefore they call it hate speech, and they block it.
	Thank you.
	You know, there's a moral line that we all have a moral compass and a moral line installed in us.
	And I can understand that if we crossed that, if we were totally outrageous, and what is totally outrageous?
	Talking mayhem, death, destruction, making threats, physical threats.
	I can understand that Facebook Yeah.
	Michael, yes, go ahead.
	You're completely correct.
	I mean, this whole assault on the alternative media is completely without any foundation.
	I mean, it's so massive.
	Prosecutor, Jimmy.
	Yeah.
	Michael, yes, go ahead.
	You're completely correct.
	I mean, this whole assault on the alternative media is completely without any foundation.
	I mean, it's so massive.
	It's so extensive.
	And it's a violation of the original compact between the social media giants and the government where the decision was made that they would be treated as though they were like libraries or bookstores where you can go to a library, check out a book, go to a bookstore, buy one, and then you can go to a library.
	And the bookstore and the library are not responsible for the content of the books you read or the videos you watch.
	But now, They have assumed the role of censors.
	They're determining what we can see and what we can't see, what we can read and what we cannot read, and that fundamentally alters the equation.
	It means that they now are going to be properly liable for what they are putting up and disallowing.
	It's going to fundamentally transform the relationship between the social media and the public.
	But Michael, it requires a period of time to get the court into the system and before the Supreme Court for resolution.
	And that's the period during which all the mischief takes place when they begin abusing their position as they are doing now on such an incredibly massive scale.
	And it eventually being sorted out in the courts, I predict with confidence that will happen.
	But meanwhile, a tremendous amount of damage is being done.
	People who have invested Ten years of their lifetime in developing their blog and archiving videos, and so I find it wiped out overnight for no given reason.
	I mean, it's grotesquely abusive.
	And it appears to be driven by the democratic political agenda.
	This is a left-wing phenomenon.
	This is not on the right.
	This is clearly on the left.
	And setting up Alex Jones was simply preposterous.
	Plays an important role in society by being provocative, by raising issues about questions we might not have even considered before.
	And it's got nothing to do with the idea of his being the last word.
	It has to do with him raising issues and getting us to start to think about things from alternative points of view, which is an indispensable element in figuring out what's going on.
	You speak of Alex Jones.
	I wonder how many people realize how many years Alex Jones has been around.
	He's been around a long time.
	I used to be on the next show after Alex Jones on WWCR at a Nashville, Tennessee.
	And if you're listening, Rich, thank you very much.
	That's the station program and manager, a buddy of mine.
	And he's always been out there.
	Can you say he's conspiratorial?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe if you want to, if you want to think about it, but when you examine what he has to say, And he does it every day.
	You know, I want you to introduce yourself to the audience, but I want to ask one more, I want to make one more comment.
	You're absolutely right.
	What they're trying to do now is they're trying to install fear in us.
	I'm going to use Facebook as an example.
	Oh, well, you better watch what you say on there because they're going to boot you and you won't be able to post.
	Well, you know what it is?
	They're treating us like Pavlov's dog.
	They're looking for that reaction when that little bell goes off and it's working.
	Because people are bowing to Facebook.
	Well, watch out, you know, you don't want to insult Facebook.
	They might put you in Facebook jail.
	Really?
	Really?
	Okay.
	Anyway, um, your thoughts on that Pavlov's dog?
	Well, yeah, it's it's really crude what they're doing here.
	It's really brutal.
	It's might makes right, which is the fundamental problem.
	With morality, the reason we need morality is that the might does not make right.
	In fact, the fundamental principle of morality is treating other persons with respect, respecting their right to their opinion, to their freedom of action, as long as they're not committing harm to any other person.
	And what's going on here is trying to turn speech into a harmful action when it isn't.
	The principle of harm that's a fundamental to understanding the nature of morality is talking about physical harm to other persons, not saying things that might hurt their feelings.
	That has nothing to do with it.
	We have to have the opportunity for unbridled freedom of speech, no matter how obnoxious they may seem.
	We have to allow all opinions, all points of views to be articulated so we can figure out what's really going on.
	The idea that they are going to censor and decide what we may or may not hear, what we may or may not read, is simply grossly offensive to the principles on which this country was based, where the liberals have basically outsourced censorship to the social media, which are controlled by liberals, so that they can enforce on the ground that as private companies are not responsible to the
	First Amendment of freedom of speech and freedom of publication, but as I have already observed, it appears to fundamentally contravene the compact, the understanding within which the social media were created initially and held free from liable.
	They're now going to become subject to liable, and I expect there are going to be some massive lawsuits that are going to lead to the bankruptcy of some of these social media giants, Michael.
	And you're right, that's probably what's going to happen via lawsuit.
	If you've been following anything or doing any research, excuse me, what you have to realize, all these social media platforms were created by the CIA many, many, many years ago.
	They wanted to develop a platform where they can get people, monitor them, follow them, get their thoughts, follow their daily habits, and it's come.
	They're all puppets, all these people that It's a great platform, social media, Facebook was, but still you have to realize what it's out there for.
	I use it to my advantage.
	I try to flip it around and use it to my advantage.
	Reach out to my people to make announcements, let them know what I'm doing.
	Have any questions, I'll mail you some information, which we've done for year after year after year, and it's become a problem now because they see that we're fighting back because we have a new president in office, Donald J. Trump.
	Dr. Fetz, how did you get where we are today, where you are today?
	How did you come up through the ranks of your career?
	You want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself, and then we'll get rolling on with the show.
	Sure, absolutely, Michael.
	I graduated magna cum laude in philosophy from Princeton when Princeton was ranked number one in the world in math, physics, and philosophy.
	I was commissioned a second lieutenant in the Marine Corps upon graduation, served four years, including a year supervising recruit training where I had 15 DIs and 300 recruits under my command at the Recruit Depot in San Diego.
	I resigned my commission as a captain to intergraduate school at Indiana University and earned a Ph.D.
	in the history of science and the philosophy of science.
	I spent a 35-year academic career at a wide range of institutions of higher learning, including Kentucky, Virginia, twice North Carolina, Chapel Hill, New College of the University of South Florida.
	The last 19 years as a tenured full professor on the Duluth campus of the University of Minnesota.
	During my academic career, I published 24 books since I have published a dozen more, principally now in my retirement since 2006, having to do with exploring cases, events where the government might have a political motivation to deceive the American people.
	I'd already begun research on JFK when I was still at Duluth and published three books Vince Bugliosi described them as the only exclusively scientific books ever published on the Kennedy assassination, where I brought together the best experts in medicine, physics, and so forth.
	We discovered the autopsy x-rays had been altered, that there was evidence of two shots to the head, that the brain shown in diagrams and photographs in the National Archives wasn't even of the brain of JFK.
	Well, I have a whole volume, about 500 pages.
	The first was entitled Assassination Science, published 1998, and all these have multiple contributors.
	Then the murder in Dealey Plaza, 2000, and then the great Zapruder film hoax in 2003.
	I've co-chaired five national conferences on the death of JFK.
	But probably more significant and relevant today, I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005, which turns out to be, in retrospect, one of the three most important developments in the history of 9-11 research, the first having been David Ray Griffin's book, The New Pearl Harbor, published in 2004.
	Which showed that there were major problems, anomalies, inconsistencies, inadequacies in the official government account of 9-11.
	Founding scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005 brought together experts and scholars from all over the world.
	I mean the organization took off like a rocket and by the end of 2006 we had over 800 members and now Interestingly enough, in collaboration with Robert David Steele, who's a former Marine Corps intel officer, but also a former CIA officer who's actually conducted false flags of his own, we have published a 28 memorandum by 27 experts on 9-11 you can find on his website.
	These are memoranda authored for the President of the United States.
	Really sensational stuff.
	These are mostly one- and two-page memoranda.
	The totality, including some appendices Robert added, is only 100 plus one page.
	You can download it for free for his website.
	You can download it for free.
	And I repeat that because I've noticed there are some outlets that are charging $10.
	You can also get it, I think, on Amazon.com for $10, but you can get it for free.
	Just go to Robert David Steele's website.
	It has contributions by, you know, virtually all of the important figures in 9-11 research.
	David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Richard Gage, Richard Molin.
	I mean, a whole host on what happened, how it was done, and why.
	Which, interestingly, Michael, is not something that Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth or Judy Wood and her Do group are willing to discuss.
	Which is a reason why I characterize them as limited hangouts.
	I mean, you can talk about Building 7 until you're blue in the face, but if the American public doesn't have a context, a political narrative in which they can understand why it's important, they have no reason to bother.
	And that's what 9-11, what Architects for 9-11 Truth has done.
	They focused on an inadequate theory of how The buildings were destroyed, talking about nanothermite, where we also have a contribution, a memorandum from T. Mark Hightower, who's a chemical engineer, explaining how nanothermite has been oversold to the 9-11 research community, that it only has one-thirteenth the explosive force of dynamite, for example, which is TNT, which is the universal standard.
	So roughly, you know, if you were going to choose between dynamite and nanothermite, you'd need 13 more times more nanothermite to do the same job as a unit of dynamite of TNT.
	In fact, Niels Herreth, who's from Copenhagen and a retired associate professor of chemistry there, estimated it would have taken 29,000 metric tons of nanothermite to blow up a twin tower.
	Well, that's simply absurd.
	That's like filling a twin tower with circus peanuts.
	I mean, it's just a silly theory.
	And when, you know, I made the complaint long ago when T. Mark Hightower and I in 2011 published three articles about this explaining that nanothermite could have cut it.
	It couldn't be responsible for blowing the towers apart.
	They responded by saying, well, it could be combined with something else to make it explosive.
	And I said the same is true of toothpaste.
	It's not explosive, but it could be combined with something else to make it explosive.
	In other words, they have no answer to the question of how it was done, which is ridiculous, because this is the organization that has soaked up the donations from the American public, and I'm calling it out as a limited hangout.
	When Richard Gage went on C-SPAN a couple years ago, I published a piece entitled, On C-SPAN, Richard Gage Leaves 9-11 Truth in a Time Warp.
	Because he was talking about a period before a vast amount of research had been done that exposed, this appears to have been a nuclear event, that the buildings appear to have been destroyed by a nuclear device.
	They were a tube within a tube design, Michael.
	There was an inner tube with a 47 massive core columns to create all this open space where there were 240 external steel support columns and they were connected by Steel trusses that had V-shaped grooves that were four inches deep.
	So in some places, the cement that was poured on the steel trusses was four inches, but other places, eight inches.
	That means every floor represented, because the buildings were 208 feet on a side, an acre of concrete on a steel truss.
	To blow it up, Joe Olson has what's probably the most important technical contribution to the set, where he's a civil and structural engineer.
	Nuclear device used to blow the inside tube from the bottom up, and then it had the effect of bringing down the outer tube from the top down, which is why visually when we observe the effects, we see the buildings blowing apart in every direction from the top down.
	They're being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, which, by the way, happens to be a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
	And then when it's done, there was no zero zilch, no pile of debris in their footprint.
	Completely the opposite of Building 7, by the way, which was seven hours later at 520 in the afternoon, brought down in a classic controlled demolition.
	Didn't blow apart in every direction from the top down, wasn't converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust.
	All the floors came down at the same time.
	And when it was over, there was a Pile of debris equal to five and a half floors equivalent to 12% of the original 47 floors, which is the typical outcome with a classic controlled demolition.
	So if nukes were used on Building 7 as well, as some profess, it's not obvious to me because it looks as though Building 7 is explicable as a classic controlled demolition.
	But when you come to the Twin Towers, it's totally the opposite.
	I had Father Frank Morales on my own radio shows on two different occasions.
	He was a first responder from St.
	Mark's Episcopal Church in the immediate vicinity and told me both times how those buildings, the towers, had been destroyed to or even below ground level, which means it was an absolutely nonstandard event.
	Judy Wood, Who published a quite brilliant book entitled Where Did the Towers Go?, which is a marvelous compendium of photographs, documents, records related to 9-11, claims she has no theory of how it was done, and yet on the cover of her book, it says evidence of the use of directed free energy technology on 9-11, which means her theory, obviously, is that directed free energy technology was used on 9-11.
	I was very open to Judy in the beginning.
	I began interviewing her on my radio shows on 11 November 2006, and I had 15 different interviews with Judy Wood, where we pioneered the technique of combining the computer with the radio, because we'd go to her site, then Judy and I would discuss the various studies, photos, films, and so forth found on her website.
	And then in 2008, when she came on the show with John Hutchison, who claims to have done very stunning results in his garage, basically, such as levitating steel.
	I asked John what was his background in training, since we're talking about one of the most complex areas of physics, electromagnetism, and he dismissed it by saying he had plucked crayons and coloring books.
	Which Judy Wood thought was hilarious, but which was obviously non-responsive.
	I found that very disappointing.
	And Judy apparently was offended that I would ask such a simple and obvious question of John Hutchison, so she has cut me off.
	Even then, when I organized the Vancouver hearings in 2012, about 9-11, I invited Judy Wood.
	As I did Steve Jones, as I did a number of others with whose views I disagree to be speakers.
	They all declined or didn't even respond, as in Judy's case, because you can't figure out what's going on if you're not comparing alternative theories.
	And this is why I said back in the beginning, Alex Jones is so important because he raises questions and provokes us into thinking about alternative possibilities than the official narrative.
	I mean, when it comes to Sandy Hook, here he's being pilloried, he's being sued, and simply absurd lawsuits that have no foundation whatsoever.
	In fact, when I published the book Nobody Died at Sandy Hook in 2015, we had 13 contributors, including six current or retired Ph.D.
	college professors, where the degree matters because it's a certification of your ability to conduct original research.
	Using original sources, and with 13 contributors, we established the school had been closed by 2012, that there were no students there, that it was a FEMA drill.
	We even have the FEMA manual.
	It was done to promote gun control.
	One of our contributors, Paul Preston, who's a school administrator from California, actually has supervised FEMA drills before.
	And he was so troubled by what he saw being broadcast from Newtown that day that he reached out to his contacts in the Obama Department of Education, all of whom confirmed to him that it had been a drill, that no children had died, and that it was done to promote gun control.
	So while Robert David Steele and I, after completing the memorandum series for the president on 9-11, Discuss following it with a sequence on JFK, where I'd already blocked out who I thought would be the most important contributors in all the subjects, because I've now published yet a fourth book on JFK and done such a vast amount of research there.
	But he thought it might be more timely to do it on Sandy Hook, and he was 100% correct, because this is right at the time that the Internet giant started abolishing Alex Jones, wiping him off the face of the map.
	And yet, what he was saying about Sandy Hook was relatively innocuous compared to what I and my colleagues would have to say about it.
	In fact, it always bothered me that Alex didn't feature me on his show to talk about Sandy Hook, because I can blow these people right out of the water, Michael, frankly.
	We've even discovered how they fake the kids.
	You may or may not recall, but Wayne Carver, who is a medical examiner, held a press conference during which he explained Among other points, that they didn't allow the parents to see the bodies in the school, but identified them on the basis of photographs.
	He implied that that was emotionally less traumatic.
	But the fact of the matter is, it was of necessity because the kids only existed in photographs.
	They were fictions made up out of photographs of older children when they were younger.
	We've established, for example, with regard to Noah Posner, Who is the most photogenic and easily has had his image projected millions of times around the world, was made up of photographs of the fellow who is supposed to be his older stepbrother, Michael Vabner.
	Kelly Watt, who is a very astute student of Sandy Hook, who had over 100 hours of conversation with Lenny Posner, who purports to be Noah's father, telling him she didn't believe a word he said, didn't believe he had a son, didn't believe his son had died, wanted to see some proof.
	Lenny no doubt unadvisedly sent her a death certificate for Noah, and it turned out to be a fabrication.
	The bottom half of a real death certificate, the top half of a fake, it didn't even have a file number, had the wrong estimated time of death at 11 a.m.
	when the shooting officially took place between 9.35 and 9.40.
	That in and of itself ought to have been a huge, gigantic red flag that something was wrong, because obviously If Lenny Posner had actually lost his son Noah at Sandy Hook, he would have had a real death certificate he could have produced.
	Instead, he provides a fake one.
	And we now have gone further and discovered the reason there are all these photographs of Lenny and Noah when Noah was a child, even though now it turns out that Noah is actually Michael Vabner.
	So what is Lenny Posner doing in Only Photographs with Michael Vavner?
	Well, it turns out to be that's because Lenny Posner's a fake, too.
	That's not his name.
	He's actually Ruben Vavner, Michael Vavner's father.
	So that six of us went to work.
	When Kelly first offered the observation, she thought there was a resemblance between Noah Posner and Michael Vavner.
	Six of us went to work on a blog, and we discovered they had the same eyes, they had the same eyebrows, they had the same nose, they had the same
	Ears, they had the same chin, they had the same shape of skull, and I enlisted the assistance of Larry Rivera, who's done brilliant work of superposition of images to confirm the identity, especially, most notably, of Lee Oswald in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository at the time the motorcade was passing by, where we'd already concluded that it was Lee in the doorway on the basis of the height, the weight, the build, the shirt, and the t-shirt.
	The only candidate the government has ever offered as an alternative is a co-worker by the name of Billy Loblady.
	But Billy himself said he thought it was odd they'd be confused because he was 2 to 3 inches shorter, 15 to 20 pounds heavier.
	That's conservative.
	And that he was actually wearing a short-sleeved red and white vertically striped shirt on the occasion when he was standing in the doorway, just to the left of Lee Oswald, who was wearing this very richly textured long-sleeved shirt, a t-shirt.
	Lee has a very slender build, but he was wearing the very same clothing when he was arrested.
	And the government was already aware, so when they had him booked, they had him take off his outer shirt, so his mugshot is just in a t-shirt.
	Very, very peculiar, until you understand that they were deliberately obfuscating the fact that when he was wearing the outer shirt, which was Marina, by the way, Of late, Ed Tetreault confirmed that she'd actually washed that shirt.
	It was purchased in Russia.
	It was really tattered and torn.
	That, you know, it was Lee in the doorway, which means he not only cannot have been the lone demented gunman, but he cannot have been one of the shooters.
	So I enlisted Larry to do superpositions of Noah Posner and Michael Vavner and created a gif where you can see Michael, Noah Posner turn into Michael Vavner.
	And would you believe, lo and behold, since he's older now, Michael Vabner has just graduated from the University of Connecticut at Storrs, and in his searching for a position, created a website where you can see his photograph with a cheerful greeting.
	Hi, I'm Michael Vabner.
	I just graduated from the University of Connecticut at Storrs with a major in economics and coursework and web design and IT.
	And you can see it's exactly the same person.
	So you see Noah Posner turned into Michael Fabner, and here you have Michael Fabner on his website certifying he is who he is, which confirms that he was the source of the fake photographs of Noah Posner.
	So this whole thing is a monstrous fraud.
	It means that the Sandy Hook parents collectively have perpetrated fraud on the American people.
	Get this, Michael.
	Sympathetic but gullible Americans donated between $27 and $130 million to the Sandy Hook parents in the belief that they'd lost children in this ghastly shooting at an elementary school.
	Well, divided by 26 families, that's over a million bucks apiece for pretending to have a child who died at Sandy Hook, when they were all fictions that were made up.
	In fact, Moda Alexis Presley Who has done research exposing that Lenny actually is Reuben Fabner, also has discovered that it appears some of the other Sandy Hook parents didn't use photos of other kids, they used photographs of themselves to be the children who's supposed to have died at Sandy Hook.
	So they've made out like bandits, and now they are using, and you actually linked to an article I published about how Sandy Hook imposters want Facebook the social media to protect them from identification and prosecution for fraud and theft by deception.
	That's what's going on here.
	They're appealing to the claim that they're being harassed and bullied by the Sandy Hook researchers who are investigating what's going on and showing the whole thing's a sham.
	So they're invoking the social media giants to protect them, and the social media giants are obligingly going right along with them, which makes them accessories after the fact to fraud and theft by deception.
	I mean, it's a monster story.
	It is, and I thank you for that.
	That was well said, well put.
	You're very well versed in it.
	We're going to be taking a phone call in a minute, because I don't want the audience to think that we forgot about them.
	You know, Dr. Fetz, I remember a couple of key things about Sandy Hook, and then we're going to move on.
	We're going to get back to Sandy Hook, though.
	One thing, And if you look at it, but you have to look at it a couple times.
	You can watch a video, you have to watch it again.
	Like when you used to go to the movies, when movies were really great, you'd see it the second time, you'd really enjoy it better, rather than have a part two, part three sequel.
	Anyway, watching one of the videos, it was brought to my attention that the SWAT team, FBI SWAT team, as they were exiting this, and if you remember this, stop me, um, they were allegedly carrying The assault rifle that was allegedly used at the time, even though they didn't have an assault rifle, and he was carrying it upside down by the magazine itself, which is a big no-no.
	If you're any kind of gun enthusiast, if you're a law enforcement official, you do not carry a gun up, especially if it's an unsecured weapon that's supposed to be the Murder weapon you do not carry it upside down with the magazine in By the magazine for several minutes.
	This was just this was not a Some kind of awkward switch of the hand from the left to the right they was actually carrying it He also went on to be one of the crisis actors that appeared at the White House and the other thing that got to me I'm speaking as a detective now as a crime scene investigator and And we've had Wolfgang Halberg on the show a couple of times.
	One of the things, too, that got to me is when Mr. Halberg had his Freedom of Information hearing with Mr. Monty Python.
	Mr. Monty, he asked why the dash cam videos had no date or time.
	And he was told it was embedded in the software.
	And when he asked how they could retrieve that embedment, He never got there.
	He took it a step further and he called their bluff.
	So those are some of the other things that we could add.
	And we can go on and on for the next two weeks straight without having to stop and come up for air.
	There's too much.
	There's too much suspicion right there.
	It doesn't add up.
	I'm still trying to figure out what the modus operandi of our government was.
	Why they did it then.
	at that particular time, and there's other things about Newton.
	Newtown, which is Sandy Hook, one and the same, next to each other, call one the other, the other the one.
	There's other things about Newton, too.
	I'll give you a quick example, then I want to move on.
	Michelle Obama, aka Michelle Robinson, got a Social Security number that Obama
	is saying that his on the on his tax return wasn't quite blacked out comes from Connecticut the state of Connecticut but more over it comes from the town of Newtown to a person that we hired and went into a nursing home in Newton there and they theorized that the we had a whole two shows on this how the director of that nursing home
	would apply for Social Security for the patients to help offset the cost.
	Now, if you trace that person back to his, where he had an apartment in New York City, I'm trying to speed this up, his neighbor was Michelle Robinson's relatives.
	So you're all tied together.
	Let me address three or four issues you've raised here, Michael. - You ran together the weapon that was or wasn't used there And frankly, the investigation, the formal report that was done by Steven Sedensky, who was the state's attorney for Danbury about Sandy Hook, was a forensic failure.
	It was unable to establish any connection between the rifle that was supposed to have been used to shoot his mother at home, because his fingerprints were not on the rifle, And the weapons he's supposed to have used to shoot the students at school, because they couldn't match any of the 150 plus slugs they claimed to have found with the weapon.
	I mean, now this is ridiculous.
	So there was no causal nexus established between the alleged Adam Lanza, the murder of the mother and the shooting of the children, all of which appears to be fabricated.
	This all appears to be completely fake.
	I'm convinced that Adam Lanza was an imaginary creature, too, just as was Noah Posner and all the other children.
	Now, you're correct, however, about there being someone dressed as a SWAT team member walking up and down Dickinson Drive carrying a weapon upside down by the magazine, and that does indeed appear to be David Wheeler, who was the husband of Francine Wheeler.
	They're both B-grade actors.
	Francine Wheeler was the Personal assistant to the Democrats, chief fundraiser Maureen White, who in 2015 raised, I don't know, 51 million bucks for the Democratic Party.
	She's actually been the voice in an animated porn feature, Francine has.
	Barack Obama, this whole thing was a Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Eric Holder, Daniel Malloy, Connecticut State Police, Newtown School Board.
	Fake Sandy Hook parent production, where the Newtown School Board got a grant of $50 million to build a new school at Sandy Hook.
	The old, which I said we discovered had been abandoned by 2008, was loaded with asbestos and other biohazards.
	It actually had been condemned.
	They were using it for storage.
	It's interesting how you can get independent verification from unexpected sources, because on a blog, A fellow who had been visiting a friend about 10 miles away from Newtown, his friend decided, you know, had a plan to go over there and pick up a couple of school desks on the cheap for his own kids to use at home, and he went with him.
	He was a contractor, and he wrote a very lengthy commentary about the deplorable condition of the school and how the fellow who was, you know, the caretaker had said it was condemned and was expected to be torn down.
	So, I mean, that was in 2010 when it was abandoned in 2008.
	So they took this abandoned school to conduct the FEMA drill, for which we even have the manual, for a two-day exercise with a rehearsal on the 13th and going live on the 14th.
	Now, the SWAT team member, the apologists are claiming was actually an FBI guy, I think the name was Olinburg, who bears a certain resemblance to David Wheeler.
	But look, my point is this.
	No FBI agent would carry a weapon upside down by the magazine.
	I supervised 15 DIs and 300 recruits, and in going through recruit training in San Diego, including marksmanship training, the lowest-ranking recruit would not commit such a blunder.
	So the idea that the person who was carrying this weapon upside down by the magazine was actually an FBI officer is absurd, simply absurd.
	But that's the level to which they have sunk here in trying to, you know, conceal what was going on.
	Now, you mentioned Barack Obama.
	Yes, he appears to have been born in Kenya.
	I did my own research at the time.
	Trump again and again has made truthful observations about the birther issue, for example, about the attendance at the inauguration, for example, about Ted Cruz's father having been in front of the trademark in New Orleans with Lee Oswald when he was sending out Fair play for Cuba.
	He was on the fringe of the assassination, no doubt.
	He wasn't a major player, but he was on the fringe.
	He was known as an anti-Castro activist, and he was there.
	There's someone else in the photograph in the foreground whom I got to know personally, a fellow by the name of Chauncey Marvin Holt.
	If you're looking at an uncropped photograph, he's the short guy with long arms in the immediate foreground on the right.
	I got to know Chauncey.
	He was responsible for counterfeiting 15 sets of Secret Service credentials for use in and around Dealey Plaza.
	It's a fascinating story in and of itself.
	But the fact is, Trump again and again and again has made correct observations.
	The election was rigged.
	It was rigged for Hillary Clinton.
	There are multiple ways in which it was rigged.
	Jerry Brown signed a motor voter law in 2015.
	allowed you to be automatically registered to vote when you obtain your driver's license, which sounds great, except that in California, illegal aliens are allowed to drive and obtain motor driver's licenses and thereby were automatically registered to vote.
	Barack Obama went on to a Latino station, and when the anchor, who is a very attractive woman, said a lot of Latinos would like to vote, but they're worried their papers are And Obama reassured her.
	He said, oh, no, he said, when you're in the voting berth, you are a citizen and your papers aren't going to be checked.
	Equivocating on the distinction between performing the function of a citizen and being legally qualified to perform that function.
	He was not eligible to serve as president of the United States, and yet he was Allegedly vetted and confirmed as qualified by Howard Dean, by Nancy Pelosi, by Hillary Clinton, who incidentally actually flew to London and visited the Colonial Records Office to make sure that Obama's birth record from Kenya didn't surface in time.
	And this explains why his first act as president was to seal his educational records just when every little kid in the country wanted to study the life of the first black president.
	Otherwise, it's simply absurd action for him to have taken.
	And you seem to be aware that Michelle Obama actually was Michael Robinson.
	He played football from Oregon State before he transferred to Princeton and changed his sexual identity.
	They actually faked the kids by using children of Michelle's physician.
	They used their kids.
	One student actually uncovered it.
	He's got a video out there.
	I found them.
	I found the parents.
	And the kids look just like their parents, one just like their mother, the other just like their father.
	Obviously, two men cannot bear children, but this is part of the farce that was perpetrated on us by Barack and Michelle Obama and the Democratic National Party.
	It's outrageous.
	Wow.
	I am really impressed, really.
	You brought it home, including going to London to go to the British archives.
	But they were headed off at the pass, unfortunately.
	You're really up on things.
	You know, just want to stay one minute on that birth certificate controversy.
	On its face, you could just see there's a whole bunch of irregularities, if you want to say, anomalies.
	And one was the race of the father.
	It was African.
	It was not.
	It was colored or Negro back there.
	That is his father, which it's not his father.
	And we have copies.
	They're posted on where's obamasfirstivigate.com.
	We also had Mike Zula, who got that copy, come on the show numerous times.
	He's been on the show.
	I can't even count how many times he's been on the show.
	And we pointed that out, that back then the registrar, they followed the United States guidelines as far as how to, I hate to use this word, how to code people.
	There was a code for Asian, Caucasian, there was a code for white, there was a code for black, and it was either colored or negro.
	And we have copies.
	We have copies from 1961.
	They're on the web.
	That was the first mistake they made.
	Other than other things that were found out through the investigation.
	And now here we go again.
	Who do we go to?
	Well, we go to Congress.
	They've got the power to impeach.
	Okay.
	But not when it was the CIA, and I'm going to point the finger again.
	I'm going to be quoting Mike Zullo.
	John Brennan, again.
	Here we go again.
	They're the ones.
	Look at all the e-shopping that went on.
	I think Congress was scared to death.
	I still think they're scared to death about all the skeletons that were taken out of their closet and lined up and put in the CIA office, and they would use them against them.
	And it's going to take a lot of time here to bring our country back.
	Dr. Fetzer, let's come up for air for a minute.
	I've got people on hold.
	I want to give them a chance and we still have plenty of time for the show.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I would just add one comment.
	You know, people have talked about Michelle Obama running for president.
	I've said, well, it would be a very short campaign because Michelle Obama has a package that most women do not have.
	You can see it very clearly in numerous contexts.
	She's coming off the plane with Obama, and the wind blows up against her dress, and there's this package there, and Obama himself laughs.
	He thinks it's very funny.
	She went on the Ellen DeGeneres show, and she was dancing, and you can see her packages swinging right there in front of the eyes of the public.
	The audience seemingly doesn't even notice.
	I mean, it's completely ridiculous to have this level of deception perpetrated on the American people.
	You had a gay president who wasn't even qualified for the office because he didn't satisfy the constitutional requirements with a transgender wife who's also male, and they're pretending to have two kids who are actually on loan from her physician.
	I mean, this level of deception is staggering.
	And you're right.
	That has been brought up too.
	Even Joan Lewis, who comment on it before her untimely death, before her suspicious surgery that went awry there, said that everybody knows that Michelle Obama is a...
	I think she said transgender.
	I don't know if I'm quoting her.
	She said tranny.
	She said tranny, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	You know, Dr. Fentz, we're really trying to be formal here, but sort of informal.
	So if I quote her wrong, but I get the same message out, it's all the same thing here.
	Okay.
	Hold on a minute.
	Do call me Jim.
	I don't stand on for mouth.
	Call me Jim, Michael.
	I appreciate that.
	And yeah, we can take calls.
	I'm glad to take calls.
	You have it, Jim.
	Okay.
	I'm going to take one call now, then we're going to move on.
	Gux, look.
	I see there's a lot of you on hold.
	I'd like to take the calls earlier, if possible.
	Because right now, we have a lot of momentum behind us, and this show's really going well.
	Push the one button to get on the air.
	Otherwise, 347-989-8853.
	If you're listening online, that's the number to call in.
	Okay, we are going to go to Sergeant Jeffrey Harrison, United States Marine Corps, retired, calling from Pennsylvania, wants to mention something about Robert Mueller.
	Sergeant, you're on the air with Dr. Fetzer.
	Captain Fetzer, where was my safe space when I was going through basic training?
	Where was your safe space?
	Yeah.
	Well, where were you going through basic training?
	Were you at Parris Island or were you at San Diego?
	Yeah, I was at Parris Island.
	80 to 89, sir.
	Yeah, I was parricide on the 80 to 89, sir.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I was in San Diego 64 to 66.
	I was at the Recruit Depot there with the DIs and all that.
	I had 13 months in the Far East, you know, training ops.
	We were based in Okinawa with the 3rd Division, 1st Battalion, 12th Marines.
	I was the mortar officer.
	And the very first assignment I had was to set up for a fire, live fire exercise with the coordinates on the base of Mount Fuji.
	And as we were lobbing mortars all around, we looked and saw the pilgrims trekking up the sacred mountains, and I turned to my exec, and I said, who calls us ugly Americans?
	I hear you.
	Well, I served a little bit in Okinawa twice, Grenada, Beirut.
	Yeah.
	I pushed a lot of paperwork.
	I had a little legal problem.
	I had to get a waiver to get in.
	I made it a sergeant.
	I had good evaluations, and I turned myself around, sir.
	Good.
	Good for you, Sergeant.
	I'm very proud of you.
	That's excellent.
	Well, thank you, sir.
	Yeah, I didn't have a safe space.
	Hey, sir, would you be so kind to just elaborate on Robert Mueller?
	Recently, Montgomery Blair Sybil did an article about how he's not qualified to be there constitutionally, and what's the chances of him getting a boot or getting relieved of duty there?
	Would you mind commenting on that, sir?
	Sure, sure, sure, sure.
	Well, Robert Mueller is being extolled by other members of the deep state who are complicit in this whole scam to sabotage the Trump administration.
	The whole thing was rigged.
	John Brennan played a key role in making up this Russian hacking thing.
	It had no foundation.
	Robert Mueller, what you need to understand about Mueller is he was appointed the director of the FBI before 9-11.
	Well, he certainly didn't expose anything about what happened with 9-11, because that was not brought to us by the CIA, the neocons, the Department of Defense, and the Mossad.
	He left after the Boston bombing.
	Well, I can tell you, the Boston bombing was a complete charade.
	We had police on bullhorns calling out, this is a drill!
	This is a drill!
	We had the Boston Globe tweeting that a demonstration bomb would be set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities.
	Another tweet, one would be set off in a minute in front of the library.
	And a minute later, in front of the Boston Public Library, there's one of these puff pieces that go off.
	And I say that as a former artillery officer, it wasn't powerful enough to kill anybody, unless perhaps you were sitting right on top of it.
	And then when he appeared through the smoke, there were Bodies missing arms and legs, but there was no blood.
	Now, as Lorraine Day was ahead of trauma surgery for San Francisco General Hospital for 25 years as observed, it's a physiological impossibility to have arms and legs blown off and there to be no blood.
	He was also there during Sandy Hook, and he didn't reveal any of this, which tells me Robert Mueller is a cover-up artist.
	He's completely dirty.
	He's part of the core that were involved by Obama to try to sabotage Trump, and Obama himself was deeply involved in this.
	There's a completely brilliant book.
	I've read 167 pages, half of the book.
	It's by Greg Jarrett, entitled The Russia Hoax, and how the FBI and the Department of Justice conspired to exonerate Hillary.
	And to sabotage Trump.
	It's brilliant, it's very clearly written, very thoroughly documented.
	Every American needs to read this, because this whole Russian thing was absurd.
	I just featured, by the way, William Binney as my guest last Thursday on my own radio show, which is called The Raw Deal, on Revolution Radio Studio B on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 4 to 6 Eastern Time.
	Where Bill Binney confirmed what I already knew he had ascertained, namely that the so-called Guccifer 2.0 files were downloaded directly from the server at a rate too fast to have been distant Russian hacking and that it was done in the Eastern time zone.
	Kim.com has acknowledged that he assisted Seth Rich in doing the download.
	And the files were transferred by way of the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, to Julian Assange, who's a friend of Craig Murray.
	Both Craig Murray and Julian Assange have affirmed they know the leaker, and he was not Russian.
	He was Seth Ridge, who paid for it with his life.
	Actually, he was shot on the street, but he didn't die on the street.
	He was taken to Washington Hospital Center, where a fourth-year resident reported that
	He had three wounds altogether, one entry and exit, and one entry with no exit, that he had suffered non-life-threatening injuries, that they had treated him and sent him to the ICU for recovery when the place was infiltrated by law enforcement officers who cut off his medical care, and the med resident said he was allowed to die.
	Well, I think it was a bit stronger than that.
	They didn't want the guy around.
	Robby Podesta and John Mook also were instrumental in promoting the idea.
	According to two investigative journalists who followed the Clinton campaign and published a book entitled Shattered in 2017, they made up the Russian hacking meme out of whole cloth within 48 hours of Hillary's concession speech in order to obfuscate the incompetent campaign they had run.
	Many forget that Michael Moore was predicting that Hillary was going to lose.
	Because she was neglecting the Rust Belt states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
	That was exactly how it played out.
	Studies by Boston University and the University of Minnesota have concluded that Trump won because in those rural counties, they'd suffered a lot of casualties from the Middle East wars, and they voted for Trump on the ground that he was the less likely of the two candidates to continue the wars.
	Also, to distract attention from the contents of the WikiLeaks releases, which led directly to Pizzagate, where John Podesta himself appears to be pedophile-in-chief, and I have heard recordings from, for example, Comet Ping Pong Pizza, that are pretty weird, that is pretty clearly John Podesta's voice talking about abusing children and other sordid activities, where Hillary Clinton
	Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton, Huma Abedin, all are key players in these massive, corrupt, sadistic pedophile rings.
	And also to distract attention from Hillary's own engagement with Russia, where she wound up as Secretary of State negotiating the sale of 20% of U.S.
	uranium reserves to Russia for a $145 million donation to the Clinton Foundation.
	Which required the approval, by the way, of Barack Obama.
	So I say, well, if Julius and Ethel Rosenberg received the electric chair for sharing atomic secrets with the then-Soviet Union, what do Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama deserve for selling 20% of U.S.
	uranium to Russia for a $145 million bribe.
	Sergeant Harrison, did you hear that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I'm just blown away.
	It's nothing like being informed.
	Where do we go from here?
	What's an average Joe citizen like me supposed to be doing?
	I kind of know I'm doing things.
	I've worked with Mike Boland for quite some time.
	I've written congressmen.
	I've gone to their offices.
	I've done everything I think I can do.
	So what's an average Joe supposed to be doing?
	Well, listen, if you go to this Robert David Steele website, and I've got a link to some of his stuff right here for the announcement of the show, his website is Robert David Steele.
	And when you come in, you get a choice.
	This is the umbrella website for other websites contained within.
	You click on one, you go to Phi Beta Iota, and you're going to find both these new memoranda, and there are 15 so far about Sandy Hook.
	But we're going for about the same number we had for 9-11, which was 28 altogether.
	So I'm continuing to produce, you know, a range track down suitable authors for the Sandy Hook memoranda.
	You can download the 9-11 memoranda for free to your own desktop.
	I would write Letters to the editor, contact your senators and congressmen and so forth about the 9-11 memoranda, because they blow the whole case apart.
	They leave no doubt about it.
	And as the Sandy Hook memoranda get out, do the same, because this whole thing, this whole Sandy Hook thing, was a complete government-controlled psyhob, and it is being used not only now to gut the Internet and to eviscerate our First Amendment freedoms, which it will eventually Find its way into the court, but also to take away our right to possess weapons under the Second Amendment.
	Barack Obama signed no less than 23 executive orders to constrain our access to weapons under the Second Amendment on January 16, 2013, just a month and two days later.
	Remember, he had campaigned as a candidate against the Second Amendment.
	This op was conducted so that during his inauguration, when he became president for the second time, he could talk about the actions he'd taken to control guns.
	The fact is, there turns out to be an inverse relationship between gun ownership and homicide rates.
	In other words, you are given to believe that the more guns, the higher the homicide rate, but the facts are the opposite.
	The more guns, The lower the homicide rate.
	And if you stop and think about it, you'll realize why.
	The bad guys can't know that the good guys aren't armed and could take them out.
	So that you find in areas where they ban guns, the crime rate just climbs astronomically.
	In London it's so bad.
	They ban guns and the crime rate immediately began to climb.
	Now they've had so many knife attacks that their homicide rate has exceeded that of New York because of knife attacks.
	They've even banned potato peelers for crying out loud.
	And now the mayor, who's a Muslim, is talking about banning cars because cars have been used to attack people.
	I mean, it's idiotic in the extreme.
	Look at the studies.
	You can download the book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, which I released for free as a PDF to the public.
	When it was banned by Amazon.com, it was obvious to me it was political.
	I wasn't going to get anywhere if I argued with them about it.
	So I just released the book for free.
	And Appendix D is a study from an expert about guns who has a new book out on Amazon.com entitled The War Over Guns.
	You want to look at the expert studies because worldwide, worldwide, The countries that have the highest gun ownership, such as the United States and Canada, have the lowest homicide rate.
	Countries like Brazil that have the lowest gun ownership have the highest homicide rate.
	Similarly, in Africa, low gun ownership, high homicide rate.
	I mean, you'd think we would understand that Chicago is a pilot study.
	Chicago shows what happens when you ban guns.
	And of course, the murder rate there is just skyrocketing.
	I mean, it's stupid.
	There's a way to solve it.
	Get rid of the gun control laws so the bad guys don't know who's armed and who's not.
	You're going to find it settles down immediately and the crime rate drops dramatically.
	That's all you'd have to do.
	But the liberals are on a campaign.
	They have this mantra.
	They have the false belief that the more guns, the more gun crime, which is simply wrong and contradicted by the evidence.
	But they don't believe in science.
	They don't believe in evidence.
	They don't believe in logic.
	I spent 35 years offering courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, and I tell you, the modern Democratic Party today is a cesspool of incompetence, cognitive malfeasance.
	They can't think straight, and they're operating as though they were a group of ideologues who have a predetermined agenda.
	Their minds are made up, and they don't want to be bothered with facts.
	That's the way it stands today.
	Well, thank you, sir.
	Thank you for everything you've done, and I'm going to continue to listen.
	Well, thank you for calling in, Sergeant.
	I very much appreciate it.
	Good call.
	Thank you, Sergeant Harrison, and thank you, Jim, for your service to our country.
	Without you, we wouldn't be here.
	It's a lot safer to sleep at night knowing that you are out there on patrol somewhere.
	Chris, I'm going to get to you in a minute.
	Stand by.
	We have another call.
	We have a lot of calls.
	We have another caller there.
	I just want to take a 15-second break.
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	Thank you.
	My audience is going to tell me why I'm crazy, but hold on for one minute.
	Hi, this is Sharon Rondo from ThePostEmail.com, and you are listening to Mike Volan on WOBC Radio.
	And that was the lovely Sharon Rondo, who graciously provided that soundover, that break there.
	Thank you very much.
	She did post the show tonight, and I appreciate that.
	She's great.
	Let's go to another call here.
	Jim, we're going to go to Chris Strunk from Brooklyn.
	What Putin said about Broder, an investment fund nuclear weapon on the World Trade Center.
	Hold on a minute.
	Okay, Chris, you're on the air with Dr. Fetzer.
	Go ahead.
	Good evening, Dr. Fetzer.
	Always applaud your work.
	I haven't spoken with you in some time.
	I'm associated with Eric John Phelps, who did an interview with Dmitry Kozlov and Victor Bout in 2010, when they were on the LAM in Thailand, and as two GRU officers specializing in nuclear weapons.
	They tend to agree with what you stated about the Tower One and Two.
	With that said, and we printed that interview in my book, Blue Snoops, with the Putin interview, or the Putin press conference on the 16th of, gosh, July at this point, when he essentially said that there was a combined $400 million in funds provided to Clinton, maybe he included the Clinton fund, but that Bill Broder,
	Who I've known about for a very long time, since the 60s, through his father and through the Communist Party USA.
	The Hermitage Fund that Broder created, or was actually using to loot funds out of the ex-Soviet Union,
	It is said that it was created by office-enabled intelligence in 1991 with a 10-year payoff, and that it was $240 billion that was afforded to Broder, and I don't know what Leo Wanta plays in that, but certainly Broder, being referenced by Putin.
	It is highly suspicious that the World Trade Center was demolished the day before the bonds were due, and that Cantor Fitzgerald We're handling the bonds.
	I was wondering what you heard about this.
	I don't want to go into further detail.
	Oh, I think you're completely correct.
	It was no coincidence, of course.
	You're 100% correct.
	Also, there was a vast store of gold in the Federal Reserve Bank that was looted on the same occasion.
	There are several of the memoranda in the 9-11 for the President series that Have very much impressed Robert David Steele, won by Tom Scott Gordon, about the towers having been condemned before 9-11, that the cost of dismantling would have been around $2 billion, that there was a deadline they had to meet, and why they were used as white elephants for this project.
	Well, the whole idea, of course, was to fabricate the idea that Islamic terrorists had attacked the United States to justify entering Afghanistan.
	We appear to still be there because we are looting their mineral resources.
	They have a lot of valuable minerals, including one of the world's largest deposits of lithium, rivaled only by one in Bolivia, where lithium is used for components in computers, for triggers for nuclear weapons, and for electric car batteries.
	And of course, we're there to protect the poppy crop.
	The Taliban had all but wiped it out.
	So maybe an American officer has returned from Afghanistan in disgust because his role was to protect the poppy crop from the Taliban.
	I mean, it's disgraceful.
	There was another there, a memorandum by Fred Burks about how 9-11 was used to launder $240 billion in covert securities in the covert economic war.
	I believe that may be exactly what you're talking about.
	Interestingly, you mentioned Lee Wanta.
	Lee, as the audience may be unaware, was a special ambassador appointed by Ronald Reagan to negotiate with Mikhail Gorbachev the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
	And when Lee was successful with that negotiation, he was given a fabulous reward whose value today exceeds something like $40 trillion.
	I mean, this sounds astronomical, and it sounds Preposterous, but it's true, and it's in a trust account that Dick Cheney and someone else of malevolent intent have been keeping from Lee Wanta.
	He wants to use the money to rebuild America, to rebuild our infrastructure.
	I mean, he's got the money.
	It was very striking.
	Lee called me up to ask me about something, and I turned to my wife and I said, honey, you're not going to believe this, but I was just called by the richest man in the world.
	The courts have determined that he's entitled to the money, but it's being locked up to keep out of his hands.
	I know he wants to use it in cooperation with Donald Trump to rebuild the infrastructure of the United States, to create high-speed rail all over the United States.
	and other really important and infrastructure developments that could make America great again in a quite literal sense.
	So it's interesting you bring all that stuff up.
	Basically, you're on the right track.
	I don't know more about the details of some of those economic aspects to say more, but I certainly don't have any ground to disagree with what you've said.
	One additional question.
	You know, I knew the Treasury agent working in New York City because he lived down the hall from me for 20 years, and that his office was right over the first explosion in the parking lot, and that all of the evidence that he had gathered to go after and that all of the evidence that he had gathered to go Hutton got blown up in the first explosion.
	And, number two, I know the postmaster of Peck Slip Station near the fish market.
	Yeah.
	and that Giuliani had assembled that operation of all that evidence against the mob about the Fulton Fish Market on the East River, and that resulted in the fire.
	So that Giuliani goes on and becomes the mayor in Building 7, and all that evidence going on with the DAA, that gets destroyed.
	Yeah, it's very unfortunate that Giuliani is playing such an upfront role in relation to Donald Trump.
	On 9-11, Trump gave interviews to local New York TV stations where he explained that he had the same builders working for him that had constructed the World Trade Center.
	The solidity of the edifice was such that planes couldn't have possibly brought the buildings down.
	He said something else must have been involved, such as bombs.
	This is part of the reason why Robert David Steele wanted to undertake the 9-11 memorandum series, to provide it to the president before we have another observance of 9-11, in the hope that it might make a difference to what he explains to the public, because he campaigned saying he was going to get out the truth about the World Trade Center.
	Giuliani, unfortunately, as you're implying, was deeply involved in all of this.
	I'm very sorry to say, because when I see him out there speaking for Trump, we have some of these memoranda that, you know, lay a lot of responsibility on Giuliani.
	For example, he had a command and control center in Building 7, which is a 47-story building, maybe the most robust ever designed by the hand of man.
	It was erected over two enormous electrical generators, so it was designed to never collapse.
	Just to give you an illustration of how strong this building was, even in the buildings one and two, the North and the South Tower, the massive steel core columns, I mean, these were six inches thick at the base and up to a quarter inch thick at the very top, were hollowed out in the center for the larger components.
	Well, in the building seven, they were solid.
	They used solid steel columns.
	And there's no way the modest fires could have brought it down.
	In fact, we had a fellow who worked for the New York emergency management named Barry Jennings, who went there in the expectation that he'd find Giuliani and the rest of the crew in the command and control center, which had its own air and water.
	Instead, when he got there, there were half-eaten sandwiches, still steaming cups of coffee.
	A fireman came along and said, we've got to get you out of here.
	Explosions were going off inside the buildings.
	This is in the morning.
	Explosions were going off inside the building.
	He had a stairwell blown out from under him.
	At one point, he felt himself stepping over dead people.
	He couldn't see them, but he could feel their bodies.
	I don't think there's any doubt about it.
	When he got out, he gave various interviews.
	Now, when the 9-11 Commission report issued its findings, and the whole thing was managed by Philip Zelikow, Who in his area of academic specialization before entering the government was the creation and maintenance of public myths, M-Y-T-H-Fs.
	And that's what he gave us in the 9-11 Commission Report.
	It's a myth.
	None of it bears out.
	Every significant claim made by the 9-11 Commission is provably false.
	And if you read these 28 memoranda from 27 experts, you'll find reputations of the core of all the claims that were made by the 9-11 Commission.
	We're Philip Zelikow, whom I happen to believe actually designed the plan for 9-11.
	He wasn't the motive behind it.
	That was Bibi Netanyahu, who had the vision of creating this to draw the United States into the wars to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region back in the 1980s.
	Netanyahu had this inspiration back in the 1980s.
	He even held a conference on Terrorism in Jerusalem published a book, Terrorism How the West Can Win, as I recall, 1987, when the notion of terrorism wasn't even in the public mind.
	I mean, you know, the whole idea of the Project for a New American Century, which was a group of neocons, most of whom were dual U.S.-Israeli citizens, was to promote the idea of the United States becoming involved in the Middle East to benefit Israel.
	They even argued that with the demise of the Soviet Union, there was a unique historical opportunity to create a new American empire that would endure for the next 100 years.
	But that was all just gloss.
	That was all just a fakery, because what they wanted was for the United States to enter the Middle East and take out the modern Arab countries, which we learned from Wesley Clark.
	Who had discovered what had happened when he returned to the Pentagon serving as Supreme Commander Allied Forces Europe, meaning he was commanding general of NATO, came to the Pentagon after 9-11 and encountered a general there who told him that they were planning to invade Iraq, and they both thought that was very peculiar because Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
	When Clark came back a month or so later, he encountered the same general.
	And he asked him, are we still planning to invade Iraq?
	And the general said, oh, no, sir.
	It's much worse now.
	And he come into my office and he told me he just received a memorandum from Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld directing that the U.S.
	is going to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, beginning with Iraq and Libya, ending with Syria and Iran.
	And they both were puzzled about it.
	You know, why in the world?
	The general said, I don't know, sir.
	I guess we're just good at it.
	And Clark asked, he said, is the memorandum classified?
	And the general said, oh, yes, sir.
	So Clark said, well, don't show me.
	I may want to talk about it.
	And finally, in 2007, at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, Wesley Clark revealed the master plan to take out seven countries in the next five years, all to benefit Israel.
	This had no benefit for the United States.
	This was squandering the American military and American treasury for the benefit of Israel.
	Which has way too much influence over the American government.
	I'm just profoundly disturbed.
	It was Cynthia McKinney who revealed a few years ago when a new member of Congress arrives in Washington, they're asked to sign a pledge to put the interests of Israel ahead of those of the United States.
	Where those who decline, who are very few, find themselves confronted with a well-financed alternative candidate the next time around, or even that their district has been redrawn and they no longer have a seat.
	Was able to overcome those obstacles to serve eight terms in the House.
	But even as notable a figure as Dennis Kucinich, whom I regard as the smartest member of Congress at the time, was unable, found his district redrawn and he lost his seat.
	So there is a meddling by a foreign nation in the politics of the United States, but it isn't Russia.
	It is Israel.
	And their influence is enormous, and they control the media.
	And these attacks on Trump appear to be because they're considering him to be the disposable president.
	They want him to attack Iran.
	In fact, Netanyahu boasted that he talked Trump into withdrawing from the Iran nuclear agreement, which was absurd from the beginning, because Iran had abandoned its pursuit of nuclear weapons back in 2003.
	They only were pursuing them at all in the first place because the United States, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and others were claiming Saddam Hussein was trying to develop nuclear weapons.
	Well, Iran had gone through a ghastly war from 1980 to 1988 with Iraq in which both sides lost about a million men apiece.
	And they were worried if Saddam had nukes, they better have nukes too.
	So they began to develop in 2003, but when the Saddam was taken out, they abandoned, and of course that was in 2003, so that our own intel agencies all concluded and reported in 2007 that Iran was no longer pursuing nuclear weapons.
	The conclusion they reaffirmed in 2011, even the most sod came aboard in 2012, that Iran was not pursuing nuclear weapons.
	Just weeks before Bibi Netanyahu went to the United Nations and asserted precisely the opposite.
	So there is a foreign influence on U.S.
	elections, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with Russia.
	It has everything to do with Israel and the Zionists who are seeking to use the United States for their own benefit and then throw us away like we were dispensable.
	Well, you know, Dr. Fetzer, I take the position that the only country that does not have a statute to its founder is Israel, and that it was founded with the assistance of Adolf Hitler at all, and that when the paperclip program happened, we absorbed a great deal of that infrastructure that had been created with the help of Wall Street and the Bush family.
	Yeah.
	I met an FBI agent who confirmed for me that John Guadagnollo, who was there in Riyadh when Brennan was sworn felty to Islam and Wahhabism... When he converted to Islam, yeah.
	With Prince Bandar, who he then worked with after Tenet to create the Plan B, but that John Guanandolo was the debriefer of Saddam Hussein, for your information, and he had ascertained there were no weapons of mass destruction.
	Period.
	Yeah.
	Well, I know Susan Lindauer, who is the CIA asset, the liaison to Saddam Hussein, and she's explained many times how Saddam was so eager to avoid war with the United States.
	That he offered to buy a million cars a year for the next 10 years.
	In fact, he told her as she was leaving, if that's not enough, make it 20.
	Imagine where we'd be if instead of attacking Iraq, which posed no threat to us whatsoever, is one of the world's oldest civilizations.
	I mean, for crying out loud, the Tigris-Euphrates Valley, which is the location of the mythical Garden of Eden, is in Iraq.
	And we went in there, we just slaughtered Iraq.
	In fact, there was a reported discussion Between Donald Trump, between Donald Rumsfeld and his generals about, you know, attacking Afghanistan.
	And Trump didn't want to attack Afghanistan because there weren't any targets.
	He wanted to attack Iraq because it had lots of targets.
	It was a target-rich environment.
	But what a disgrace.
	What a disgrace.
	We have slaughtered millions of people in the Middle East for no good reason whatsoever, except to benefit Israel.
	And it's cost us.
	You know, vast numbers of our finest young men and women and our national treasury has been depleted.
	It's a disgrace.
	So I like all the issues you've raised.
	You seem to me to be very well informed.
	Well, we, we, we get to be 72 or three and we sort of, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Well, I haven't, I haven't been on your program for many years, but I enjoy being on your program.
	And I'm glad that Mike put you on tonight.
	Thank you very much for your effort.
	I'm very pleased you called.
	Thanks for a great call.
	Thank you very much, Chris.
	Yes, a lot of people died unnecessarily, but that's, I guess, the evil that's in the world.
	You brought up a lot of good points there.
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	There's a lot of people listening on the phone.
	Thank you.
	So, Jim, I posted in the chat room for the listeners, and hello, Flycatch, who's just joined, the links that you were talking about earlier, where to get your free download, robdavidsteel.com, and I put also another link.
	And also, all the links that you sent to me over the past week or so are in the show promo and in the email also.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's interesting, Michael, that one of them has already been taken out, the blog about Sandy Hook and Boster's, you know, want Facebook to protect them from exposure and prosecution for the crimes they have committed.
	I've had this happen several times where blogs where I'm exposing the Sandy Hook shenanigans, especially those where I demonstrate that Noah Posner was made up out of photographs of Michael Vabner.
	Those have repeatedly been taken down.
	It's absolutely astonishing.
	So I'm glad we're getting them also into this memorandum series, because it's outrageous.
	But them taking down a few of my blogs is trivial compared to the fact that people have had 10 years of their life's work wiped out.
	We are creating an alternative blog for me, by the way, because we anticipate that sooner or later they're going to take me out, too, in terms of my present blog.
	So we've created a mirror.
	And, you know, when the time comes, that will be announced.
	But, I mean, everyone has to take these precautions because the social media giants are obviously completely corrupt.
	They have a total political bias.
	They're functioning as censors.
	To decide what we can read or not read, what we can see or not see.
	It's completely outrageous and I do believe, as I previously explained, this will eventually be resolved by the Supreme Court, very much to the detriment of the social media giants who may also face antitrust action.
	In fact, Donald Trump is already taking some actions against Facebook because they use a special kind of micro-targeting of special groups that is in violation of policies regarding fair housing and so forth, so that Ben Carson actually takes the first hit against Facebook by challenging their advertising policies, which are the core of their business model.
	They advertise in a way that they're appealing only to rich, you know, older couples, or to, you know, or excluding other groups who might be equally interested or not, But the fact is, they're doing all kinds of special kinds of profiling to target particular audiences using the vast amount of data they acquire by virtue of having so much information they accumulate about all of us by virtue of our participation in the social media.
	You know, I had mentioned earlier that the C.I.A.
	was behind the creation of social media so they could spy on us, but they also gave something to social media people.
	And I'm going to use Facebook as an example because they're in the news right now, probably the most hated social media.
	They said, okay, go ahead and take some revenue off whatever you get.
	And after a couple of years, Facebook developed a program where they can, wow, look at this, we can get some revenue.
	I guarantee you this, Jim, when that pocketbook starts to get a little dry, they may turn and get some religion, or may shut down altogether.
	I'll tell you something, Michael.
	The creation of the Internet has backfired on them, because prior to the Internet, they had complete control.
	The CIA began infiltrating the media back in the 1950s.
	William Colby, then its director, was in the position to testify to Congress behind closed doors that the agency owned everyone of any significance in the media.
	Carl Bernstein followed that with an article in Rolling Stone entitled, The CIA and the Media, where he reported that agency officials had boasted that their greatest successes had been with Time Live, CBS, and The New York Times.
	And in that era of you control time, life, CBS and the New York Times, you had a lock on the American news media.
	It was with the emergence of the Internet and the so-called alternative media that the apple cart began to be upset.
	And now I think there are more people who go to the alternative media for news than to the mainstream, because they recognize it's nothing but propaganda.
	This is one of the reasons why Alex Jones has played a valuable function.
	He's raised questions about some of the official narratives that have led many Americans to do more research to figure out what's going on.
	If you don't realize there could be an alternative version of what's going on, you may simply accept what you're being told, especially when today so many families have enough trouble getting Food on the table and keeping a roof over their head.
	They tend to take their news and sound bites.
	And if they heard the same thing from CBS or CNN and MSNBC, they tend to assume it's true, not realizing they're simply reading from the same script so that Alex, in my opinion, has played an invaluable role.
	He's not the final word, but he's a good place to, you know, to be provoked into thinking about an issue you otherwise might have overlooked.
	Very good.
	In the chat room, I've got a comment, and I've also got a link here that Flycatch has sent to me.
	I'll read you the article.
	It's recent.
	It's from the independent.co.uk, and it's dated July 27, 2018, and the title is, Sandy Hook Parents Demand Action for Mark Zuckerberg Over Facebook Hoaxes.
	And I could read the article, but the article is what I just read in the headline.
	I've read the article, Michael.
	And what wasn't one of many were Lenny Posner, who seems to be some kind of op.
	Lenny has 23 different websites that he uses to attack Sandy Hook students, you know, skeptics, to keep the hoax from being revealed.
	They put pressure on Facebook and Facebook folded, unsurprisingly.
	Twitter was the last holdout.
	But the New York Times wrote a massive article attacking Twitter for holding out.
	Let's see.
	I'm slipping on one of the agencies, but let me continue.
	Lenny not only has 23 websites, but when the Dark Net, this is a program on Showtime, which explores the Internet, their formula is to have one clear-cut positive use of the Internet, one clear-cut negative use of the Internet, but the main of the program is To deal with a controversial case.
	So they featured me and Lenny Posner.
	They came here and interviewed me for four hours.
	And when I finally saw it, my face was as well defined in every feature as it's ever been in any video.
	And I've been in a whole lot of them.
	But Lenny wouldn't allow his face to be shown.
	He remained in the shadows.
	He claimed it was because he didn't want it to appear on the Internet to be subject to taunts or ridicule, which is ridiculous.
	He didn't want it to appear because He uses the name Lenny Posner, but he's actually Reuben Vavner.
	He was worried someone would look at it and say, hey, I know that guy.
	That's Reuben Vavner, who's the father of Michael Vavner, who, as I've explained, was a source for the photographs of Noah Posner.
	And, you know, it's just to evade detection, for example, too.
	He brought a lawsuit that was perpetrating a fraud on the court against Wolfgang Halbig, who's done a great deal of research about Sandy Hook as well.
	And when Wolfgang got the right to depose Lenny Posner, instead of sitting for a video deposition, he withdrew the suit, once again for the very same reason.
	He didn't want his identity as Reuben Vander to be exposed.
	So this whole thing is fraudulent.
	The lawsuits against Alex Jones, one in Texas, one in Colorado, they're completely fraudulent.
	The court is being played because Lenny Posner And his wife, Veronique, are the plaintiffs in Texas.
	And they are not even using their real names or making false claims about having lost a child at Sandy Hook.
	It's really ridiculous in the extreme, and I'm doing everything I can to expose it.
	You know, they're working overtime there, I guess, just from seeing the light of day.
	I'd like to thank Flycatch for that link there.
	He also makes another statement.
	He said that, where was he?
	I have so much to catch up to here.
	Keep on bashing Israel when China is the real enemy.
	Would you like to comment on that?
	Well, China is, you know, an economic superpower.
	There's no question about it.
	But, you know, China hasn't been micromanaging American politics.
	China doesn't have the most powerful lobby in Washington, D.C.
	China doesn't require that new members of Congress sign a pledge to put the interests of China ahead of those of the United States.
	That's all done by Israel.
	Jack Kennedy was the last president who took a stand and required the World Jewish Congress, which was a precursor of the APEC, American-Israeli Political Action Committee, they call themselves Public Affairs Committee, as a subterfuge, to register as a foreign agent.
	No president since his assassination has had the balls to do that.
	But, you know, it's well known.
	I mean, this is Shill who set that question about, you know, distracting from Israel to China.
	We do have, obviously, international economic competition with China.
	That is a real issue, but it's Israel who's been micromanaging American politics and for a very long time.
	Thank you.
	Also, China is definitely censoring things now.
	I don't know if you're following what they told Google they would like.
	Actually, they misled Google into taking out, I think, 27 apps and Yeah, but that's China.
	We expect that from, you know, a communist totalitarian regime.
	We don't expect it in the United States.
	We have Google, Apple, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook censoring right here in the USA.
	Now that is what is offensive.
	The fact that China does it for, you know, historically that has happened in China.
	Historically that has not happened here in the US.
	I've long said if it means anything to be an American, it means you're free to criticize your government without suffering any penalty or punishment, but that's no longer true.
	Now, if you question the absurd story of Sandy Hook, which the more you think about it, the more ridiculous it is to give an illustration.
	Yeah, this guy, Gene Rosen, who claims that four to six, depending on his telling of the story, children were left on his lawn, which is adjacent to the firehouse.
	that he took them into the house and gave them cookies and milk.
	Instead, they started talking about what had happened at school.
	This is absurd on its face.
	There was no evacuation at Sandy Hook.
	We had Shannon Hicks stage photographs that made it look as though there was evacuation, but they're provably staged photographs.
	No bus driver would drop off children at the home of someone who is not their custodian or parents.
	Gene Rosen had no idea of the identity of his children.
	I mean, how dumb are we supposed to be?
	I mean, this was monumentally stupid on its face, I'm just telling you.
	I reached a point where people who still believe in Sandy Hook, I've got to say, they're operating at a very low level of intellect.
	I can assure you they would never have been able to pass a course of mine.
	On logic, critical thinking, or scientific reasoning, because they're oblivious of evidence.
	You know, it can be done.
	I'll give you an example.
	Me and you standing on the street corner in the neighborhood, we see a lot of white sirens, police cars, ambulances going down the block, maybe two or three blocks down, and everybody starts to say, I wonder where they're going.
	And then as word starts to get out, you hear, there was a shooting at the school.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, there were 25 people shot, 25 children.
	I'm just using that number arbitrarily.
	Yeah.
	And you'd say, okay.
	But then if you take it a step further, Jim, if you say to yourself, Hey Mike, last night, didn't we stay there the whole night on that corner?
	Yep.
	How many ambulances went in?
	I don't know, Jim, five, six, seven.
	Do you think 25 went in?
	Oh no, no way.
	Well, isn't there a gap in the amount of ambulances that should have went in to the amount of people that got killed?
	You have to take it a step further.
	You have to ask the question.
	You have to look and say, that doesn't add up.
	Hold on a minute.
	Let me ask questions.
	Let me go to the police chief in my neighborhood and ask him what happened.
	Let me tell you how good that is, Michael, because on the 14th of December, there was no surge of EMTs into the building.
	They weren't allowed.
	No string of ambulance came to take the little bodies off to hospitals where they could be declared to be dead or alive.
	No medevac helicopter was even called, even though, as Wolfgang, who's a nationally recognized school safety expert, has observed, they're called even for drills.
	No bodies were put on the triage tarp.
	The whole thing was a farce, a complete and total farce.
	Not only that, but we have the manual, and it turns out other video that we got from Sandy Hook confirmed it.
	You had the port-a-potties already in place.
	They were brought in the 13th.
	You had bottled water and pizza at the firehouse.
	This is all consistent with FEMA manual and practices because they provide restrooms and refreshments.
	You had a lot of people with name tags on lanyards.
	When have you heard of that at a crime scene?
	But that's standard for FEMA.
	They identify the players with color-coded name tags on lanyards.
	You even had parents bringing children to the scene.
	Now, Michael, no parent is going to bring a child to the scene of a child shooting massacre.
	But this was a rehearsal and they were treating it as a festive occasion.
	So when you sort out the evidence, you find there was all the signs that this was a drill in accordance with the manual, which I published as Appendix A, so you can read it for yourself.
	And that what happened the following day of the alleged shooting was completely inconsistent with emergency protocols.
	Get this, there was even a sign there, a portable sign that said, everyone must check in.
	Which became the object of considerable controversy.
	Wolfgang Halbig was finally able to nail it down in pursuit of legal issues with the state of Connecticut for failing to respond to his FOIA request.
	He got under oath testimony from Patricia LaLorda, who was the first select man of Newtown, a position equivalent to mayor.
	When asked who put the sign there, she said she thought it was Homeland Security.
	Which was very telling, because Homeland Security wasn't even supposed to be there.
	In fact, I asked law enforcement agents when I heard this ridiculous story that they had the sign there because so many people were turning up, they had to manage the crowd.
	So I asked law enforcement officials, have you ever heard of that, having a sign, everyone must check in at a crime scene?
	And they laughed.
	They thought it was so absurd.
	It's that bad, Michael.
	The whole thing is a farce.
	Sergeant Harrison asked earlier what people can do.
	I want everybody to be, I want to remind everybody, and I'd like to thank everybody from the last show with Montgomery Blair Sibley that got on my email list to go to whereisobamaspersonificant.com, lower left hand side, click join the mailing list, you'll get an email just like I sent out tonight about the show.
	And other alerts that I may send out.
	I don't share your email with anybody.
	If I send out three emails a week, that's fine.
	That's a lot.
	That's how we got here.
	One email at a time.
	So that's the first thing you can do.
	Anytime we plan on something, flyers or giving out sheriff kits, I don't know what's going to be in the future right now.
	But we will inform you.
	I'll ask you for your help.
	I'm not shy.
	I've asked you for your help over these years.
	That's how we got where we are now.
	I wanted to make another comment about websites.
	You mentioned taking the blog, your blog being removed.
	You're more than welcome to write on my blog.
	I'll give you access.
	As a matter of fact, I'm going to follow up, maybe have Mona follow up, too, about that.
	Because when my wife and I did this, our website's going on nine, nine and a half years, we really didn't know much about websites.
	You know, we could turn the computer on, cruise the net if we want, but we got a person that has a private server.
	Um, it's, um, actually they're in Wisconsin.
	And, um, we didn't know anything.
	We knew about Google.
	We heard about GoDaddy.
	Let's have our website hosted there.
	And I said, wait a minute.
	That means it's out of our control.
	Here I have, everything's HTML.
	I have to use a converter to post and my blog is associated with my website.
	So the only way it's going to be taken down is if the internet is taken down or if they get some kind of court order.
	And I want you to show me where it's offensive.
	Anyway, one more thing.
	We're running a little short on time.
	I'm reading the Georgia report.
	I just pulled it up in the headlines.
	I always do during the show.
	And our good friend, David Hogg, who everybody might know from the Parkland shooting, who's now become a spokesman.
	We haven't heard from him lately, but According to Matt George, I'm the judge.
	I'll read you the headlines from the story.
	It says, Hogg fed up with elderly Dems.
	I guess they mean Democrats.
	And then the next one says, I have to be careful.
	Won't move, F off, let us take control.
	And there was a reference to Nancy Pelosi.
	So I guess Mr. David Hogg, who all of a sudden has jumped into the realm of politics, He's fed up with the elderly Democrats.
	He's not getting anywhere.
	Really, David?
	Welcome to reality, buddy.
	Welcome.
	You know, it's not so much that they're going to take our guns.
	We hear people from Russia and Poland saying, you know, we thought the same thing.
	They weren't going to take our guns.
	You know what, Jim?
	They're not.
	They can't.
	They're using that as a distraction to go back and forth and keep us looking the other way.
	I still feel it's not going to happen in the United States.
	There's too many guns out here.
	And that's been a big problem of the government all these years.
	Maybe Sandy Hook was a trial balloon.
	Go ahead, John.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, if I haven't explained it already about Parkland saying progressive discovery, they'd let the students go at 1 p.m.
	It was a holiday, Valentine's Day.
	So you should have had, if they'd all been there, you would have had hundreds and hundreds of videos and phones and all that.
	But they weren't there.
	They'd all gone home.
	So they ran me off in the afternoon.
	David Hogg was a key player.
	They had him there as he was supposed to be like a war correspondent.
	Someone has said they're trying to make him out to be the new Dan Rather, you know, talking about the shooting.
	He's identifying the shooter 30 minutes before he's identified as this cruise kid.
	But in fact, they were running it off.
	They had people in Full squat gear with masks using simunition.
	This is simulated ammunition.
	It's made out of beeswax and laundry detergent.
	It won't even penetrate the skin, but it'll create a welt, which is why you have numerous students walking around with band-aids within days.
	If you're shot with an AR-14, you're not walking around with band-aids days later.
	You're probably dead or you'll never walk again.
	But all this absurdity was going on.
	The sheriff, Scott Israel had to have the four deputies stand down because he was worried if they entered, they weren't in the loop.
	They didn't know it was just a fake, that it was all staged, and he was worried they might shoot one of the participants.
	They used a training dummy.
	We should have had all kinds of videos.
	There's a 52-second video released by LiveLeaks where you're in a classroom and you can hear these girls trying their best to cry as though they're upset.
	Well, in spite of what's supposed to be taking place with a body on the floor, or so we're supposed to believe, she's worried about her bottled water.
	Another is on her iPod.
	You got a kid pulling his punch.
	When you look at the body, it's a training dummy.
	It has no arms and no head lying in a pool of fake blood.
	And you got people in police uniforms running in and out, but they're not Parkland police because Parkland gave up his police force in 2004.
	This whole thing was an elaborate charade.
	They used a Hollywood producer by the name of Dina Kaps, who does Dancing with the Stars.
	Debbie Wasserman Schultz was the producer.
	She was worried that with the trial of her iTech guy, Imran Awad, who was spying on Congress with her authority, that they could lose as many as 12 seats in Florida alone.
	So they had to change the narrative.
	They did the Parkland shooting.
	It was all completely fabricated, complete total stunt.
	They began permitting for the March for Our Lives six months in advance, which is required when you want to do an event that closes streets in Washington, D.C.
	So they were permitting in August and September for the event that would be held on March 24th, claiming it had been inspired by the shooting on the 14th.
	Of April, which is all completely absurd.
	I mean, we've been pulled so many different ways on this thing.
	Very, very embarrassing.
	I have a video about it entitled The Parkland Puzzle.
	How the pieces fit together on 153news.net.
	Gus Chambers has put up a whole lot of my videos at 153news.net.
	Mona Alexis Presley has put up a whole lot of my videos.
	On BitChute and other locations, you've got to go to these places other than YouTube because they've been taken down again and again and again.
	There's a good double feature about San Diego and the Boston bombing you can find if you look for it under my name.
	There's one entitled issues of identity, fake news issues of identity, where I show how they fake Noah Posner.
	How they have Paul McCartney died and was replaced by an even better musician.
	How Hillary Clinton has used body double after body double.
	I found at least eight body doubles used by Hillary Clinton.
	She even used body doubles during the debates with Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, believe it or not.
	We had a story from New York Times in February of last year saying Hillary was in the House claiming she's gone to four Broadway plays.
	And I looked at the photographs, and not one of them was Hillary.
	I wrote him and pointed out that this was a great story, but it wasn't Hillary Clinton—never heard a word about it.
	You can find all that there.
	I have another one entitled, How It Has Spotted a False Flag.
	I give about a dozen to 15 different examples there.
	Just check around.
	There's a lot of stuff under my name.
	News.net and other of these websites that are more secure than YouTube.
	I can't say they're totally secure, but they're more secure than YouTube.
	I'm glad you mentioned the Anwar Brothers.
	We had people spying in front of the government.
	Spying!
	They were hired to do IT work in our Congress, and they were spying.
	And it looks like Ms.
	Debbie Washington Schultz might have been the ringleader in that.
	How dare they?
	How nobody in Congress has stepped up?
	I know he was just sentenced.
	I had to follow up.
	You know what he was sentenced to?
	There was some kind of a hush-hush about that.
	I gotta follow up on that.
	Anyway, I can't believe that there wasn't an outrage.
	I can't believe that they weren't running down the halls trying to track him down.
	And don't forget, he was caught that night trying to leave on an airplane with a ton of money.
	But he was held here.
	So they knew about that, or somebody knew about that.
	It's unbelievable.
	Real quick, you mentioned Hillary Clinton, the DNC.
	Did you know that during the campaign that it was a nationwide campaign because of a presidential election, but also, of course, every election has their local and state officials, that the Clinton campaign kept most of the money that was raised in every state.
	They only gave the state 10%.
	There's a film out called Clinton Cash that's really very revealing.
	And of course, when Jill Stein asked for the recount, it was interesting.
	She wanted Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan recounted.
	In Pennsylvania, they couldn't do it because of touchstone machines don't record or tabulate, which makes them unconstitutional on their face.
	In Wisconsin, where we use optical scanners, Trump picked up like 174 votes.
	But in Michigan, they found massive corruption, more votes cast than there were voters in the district, and it had all been rigged for Hillary.
	There was so much proof of corruption, they cut it off.
	It was too embarrassing.
	And I say, if people care about the integrity of the election process, get rid of electronic voting machines.
	In the last week or two, we had a 12-year-old and a 15-year-old kid who hacked into electronic voting machines in five or 10 minutes.
	Go back to paper ballots and hand counts, where you have a representative of each party verifying, and then you'll have a reliable base as they introduce these machines in order to steal elections.
	And because both parties thought they could benefit from it, they went along with it.
	Get rid of electronic voting machines.
	That would be a giant step in the right direction to regain control of our own political destiny.
	The votes need to be tallied and then sent back to the United States.
	It's unbelievable.
	I can't tell our politicians what to vote for.
	Hey, Jim, let me have a couple of minutes here.
	I posted all the links that you gave me.
	They were in the email and they're on the promo for the show tonight.
	Is there anything else you want to say?
	We have three minutes to the end of the show.
	Do you want to let people know where they can find you?
	What do you want to highlight?
	I'll give you the last two minutes.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I appreciate coming on the show, Michael.
	I'm really glad we could work it out and overcome the technical glitches.
	I wasn't surprised at all that there was that kind of interference.
	In fact, Mike Adams, Who wrote three articles about the banning of the book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, back in 2015, including an interview, was dumbfounded when they came and struck the interview he'd done with me in 2015 and then took down his website, including 1,700 videos.
	He's back up and running.
	He did a subsequent interview with me.
	I thought he might not publish it, but he did eventually, about seven or eight weeks later, and he entitled it The most dangerous mind in America on false flags and extreme censorship because he's found that people who interview me are invariably attacked.
	You may well be attacked, Michael.
	I want to warn you in advance.
	Maybe I, you know, if you weren't aware before, I mean, I think it was a sign when there was so much trouble getting me on that there's an awful lot of people who have interviewed me who suffer the consequences because too much truth, right?
	They hate truth, and that's why they're calling the sources that are speaking the truth hateful sites.
	They're wanting to suppress hate speech.
	Truthful speech to them is hate speech because they hate the truth.
	And that's what we all need to appreciate.
	I would say recommend those memoranda from the Robert David Steele site on 9-11 and Sandy Hook with as many people as you can tell them.
	This is brand new.
	This is from the best experts on both.
	And if you want to understand what happened either at 9-11 or Sandy Hook, that's the place to go.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay, folks, you heard it.
	Professor Fetzer, just here with you.
	Jim, thank you for coming on.
	The reason that they mess with us is because, as you can see, we're up on our game here as far as politics.
	We know who the crooks are.
	I appreciate you coming on tonight, folks.
	Next week, I'm going to have Walter Myers listen to him.
	He's the same caliber as Dr. Fetzer.
	He doesn't fool around.
	He comes from the old school.
	Obviously, Dr. Fetzer does too.
	He cares about the country.
	I do, too.
	We see things eye to eye.
	I'm glad about that.
	I'm kind of old-fashioned and slow, but I do it right.
	I make sure it's right.
	If I do it wrong, I have to correct it, and that's what we did.
	Okay, I really feel bad about two weeks ago not being able to do the show.
	Okay, we have other shows coming up.
	Get on the mailing list at Where's Obama's Birth Certificate dot com.
	You can send me an email, Mike, at Where's Obama's Birth Certificate dot com.
	You can go to our website and dial the phone number, 570-284-7477.
	570-284-7477.
	Tim, it's been a pleasure.
	It's been all mine, Michael.
	A real pleasure.
	I'm so glad it worked out.
	I think you're a wonderful host.
	It's a great show and I appreciate having the opportunity to join you tonight.
	And I'd like to say thank you to Mona also.
	Have a good night, audience.

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