WORST LIES YET About Charlie Kirk’s Assassination! w/ Ian Carroll
In the days leading up to his death, Charlie Kirk engaged in combative discussions about his stance on Israel, receiving pushback from both pro-Israel supporters and Jewish donors, which culminated in his announcement in a text chain to confidantes that he planned to leave the pro-Israel movement. One Zionist friend of Charlie’s, conservative commentator Josh Hammer, participated in calls and meetings to help “refine” his messaging on Israel, and claimed Charlie was only “blowing off steam” and being sarcastic about making a break with Israel. Jimmy and guest Ian Carroll discuss the controversy surrounding Charlie’s attitude toward Israel in the days leading up to his death and the flailing efforts by Zionists to deny the truth of his feelings about the conflict between Zionism and “America First.” Plus segments on whether Hamas is really the big winner of the Gaza war, Candace Owens’ revelations about two shooters present at Charlie Kirk’s assassination and evidence that Israel is already breaking the Gaza ceasefire. Also featuring Stef Zamorano and Mike MacRae. And a phone call from Kash Patel!
Then we'll be in Burbank, California the day after Thanksgiving and then Pottsdown, Pennsylvania, December 6th.
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Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
What's up, man?
It's Cash Patel.
FBI Director Patel, nice to hear from you.
You know, the video of your previous phone call to our show is one of our the most favoritest phone calls in recent memory.
Fucking sick, dude.
Yes, I agree.
Not surprised, though.
I'm fucking awesome.
The whole administration is currently experiencing unprecedented levels of winning.
Oh, yeah?
How so?
Well, obviously, priority number one, we are investigating the fuck out of shit.
We are firing motherfuckers who fucked with President Trump.
We are making it clear that this is Trump's Department of Justice.
This is Trump's FBI.
And this is Trump's baby of Coke on this desk.
Oh, wait, no, shit, that's mine.
But yeah, dude, me and Dan B are like on a fucking firing spree.
I see.
Got you.
I don't know if you heard, dude, but there was a trainee at the FBI, like he had worked there for years, but was becoming an actual agent, and I fucking fired his ass.
Guess why, dude?
Guess fucking why.
I don't know, Cash Patel.
Why?
Because he had a pride flag displayed on his desk.
I said, hell no to that gay ass shit.
FBI stands for Federal Bureau of Investigation, not something different, which you can probably figure out on your own.
Oh, okay.
I got it.
So the F doesn't stand for federal.
Okay.
All right.
Hey, wait.
You fired someone just for that, having a pride flag on his desk?
No, dude.
That's the best part.
Not for having it, for having had it.
Meaning this had occurred in the past and someone snitched to me about it.
One time you had a pride flag in your desk.
See you later, you gay ass loser.
Oh my God.
Firing people for being gay is so fucking clutch, dude.
Yeah.
I guess so.
I guess so.
Me and Bongino were getting fucked up at the Cheesecake Factory in Arlington just trying to come up with like the funniest reasons to fire people.
Obviously being gay was number one, but strong number twos were if you can't bench your weight, if you've never, if you've ever said you love your mom on social media, or if you're left-handed, then the factory waitress was being a bitch about us getting cut off, so we went back to Bongino's apartment and did Kratom.
I think it's pronounced Kratom.
But anyway.
Kratom, whatever, dude.
I'm fucking liquored up, going out to the Cheesehag Factory to get liquored up.
That doesn't sound awfully straight.
But anyway, so you're working hard.
Fucking, dude, you know it.
We literally can't stop grinding.
What can I say?
I got that dog in me, dog.
We heard your name come up yesterday during A.G. Bondi's testimony before Congress.
Yeah, dude, Pam can be such a fucking bitch sometimes.
What?
Technically, she's my boss, which is obviously kinda hot.
And I tested the waters there.
And I don't know if she's not down for Brown or just kind of stuck up, but whatever.
Who cares?
I didn't really want to fuck her old ass anyway.
I'm getting plenty of strange on the side, dude.
Believe me.
Yeah, anyway, she was being asked if the FBI has tape of Tom Homan receiving a $50,000 bribe, and she says, ask Cash Patel.
And she said that because she couldn't come out and say no, because of course we have a tape of that, because Tom Homan is the dumbest motherfucker alive.
He's basically a Neanderthal.
We call him Mongo here at the FBI.
Have you ever heard him talk, dude?
He can literally barely even make a sentence.
So he was bribed.
Absolutely 100%, dude.
He took the bag, yelled, thanks for the money so loud you can lip read it, looked at the camera and adjusted his tie.
Just a fucking idiot.
So yeah, a major administration figure just straight up criming it out in these streets.
Well, what did the DOGA and the FBI do, dude?
When they saw the tape, what'd they do?
We were like, thanks, dude.
Thanks for making our lives super easy.
This is really a life-improving situation, you fucking idiot.
And he's like, Mongo, sorry.
We call him that so much.
He thinks his name is Mongo now.
I see.
Okay.
Don't get me wrong.
We'll cover this shit up, Barry.
Whatever needs to be done.
We're the fucking FBI.
But it's like, really?
Really?
This shit?
Fuck you, man.
Well, then.
So what's next?
Not sure what the plan of attack is for now.
It's not even five yet.
I haven't heard from Danny B, but we were talking about going to this new bar on K Street that just opened up.
No, no, I meant.
What?
What?
No, actually, go on.
I want to hear this.
This new bar on K-Street that is just fucking crawling with tens.
Like, nines get in there under, like, an affirmative action plan.
Top shelf, everything.
Happy hour apps off the charts.
Like, definitely not for the jalapeno pauper crowd.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, Dan and I talked about, you know, since we're work bros and bro bros, finally doing an Eiffel Tower situation to sort of seal our bond.
Team building exercise, dude.
And it sounds like this bar is the place to find the girl.
I see.
Best part, it's all business expense, dude.
Every cent.
I would tell you how much we dropped at the Spearman Rhino in Vegas for our inauguration trip, but I'm afraid that's classified.
This guy.
Well, it's good to know our top cops have their priorities straight.
I'm in a blackout approximately 60% of the time.
I got nothing but priorities, son.
All right.
All right, we got to go.
Thanks, Director Patel.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha So good luck.
Lauren Witzke tweeted this out approximately 36 hours after Charlie posted that he was leaving the pro-Israeli movement.
He had a meeting with Rabbi Walicki, Josh Hammer, and others so that they could refine Charlie's talking points on Israel and listen to what the rabbi had to say.
As he was preparing for his campus tour, he decided that he wanted to have a meeting.
Josh Hammer was on the call, you know, Josh.
And I was on the call and a couple of Charlie's staff to talk through Israel issues.
He was really grappling with these issues.
I know that he's also having meaningful conversations with people who are anti-Israel, and that's fine.
And he's going to do that.
And that's all part of who Charlie is.
He's going to expose himself to everything.
I remember right after October 7th, I was a little concerned about some of the things he was saying afterwards, and I wasn't so emotional.
I realized Charlie was looking at a lot of the Israel America stuff through the America first lens.
I was looking at it through the my family's in Israel.
My son's joining the IDF.
I was looking at it through that lens, and I was very Jewish national identity.
The fact that he was meeting with you to refine his talking points, I assume there was a lot of pushback when that reporter asked me what the mood of the meeting was.
And I said it was combative.
He was really grappling with these issues.
He was getting pulled in different directions, and I understand that.
There's also within him a very faithful, Bible-believing evangelical Christian.
If that wasn't there, anchoring him with a positive orientation towards Israel, he undoubtedly would have been much further along into the anti-Israel camp with whom he shared a lot of opinions.
And that's where he annoyed people in the Jewish community with some of the criticisms he had for Israel.
So it was a combative meeting, and he annoyed a lot of people, a lot of pro-Israel people, a lot of Jewish donors.
And so I'm just going to show you this: so Josh Hammer is now trying to say that he was just goofing, that he didn't really mean it, that Charlie Kirk wasn't turning against Israel.
He's just goofing around.
And he shows these text messages.
And here's the one that's super, it says, just lost another huge Jewish donor, $2 million a year, because we won't cancel Tucker.
Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes.
I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
Yeah, it really sounds like he's just blowing off steam, which is what Josh.
So here's this guy, Josh Hammer.
Now, he's a senior editor-at-large for Newsweek, where he hosts a podcast and a radio show.
He's also a syndicated columnist and contributes to conservative publications.
He frequently appears on news networks such as Fox, Fox Business, and Newsmax.
And here's what he said: Listen to this garbage.
He says, I've been extremely reluctant to post screenshots from a murdered friend.
It feels icky.
I don't like it.
But while I was offline this week for a holiday, a high-profile, deeply unwell lunatic, so he's referring to Candace Owens.
She's the opposite of that, right?
So when you already, you have to, your jumping off point is a lie and a slander of someone who was also a very close friend to Candace Owens, who Charlie Kirk said he was bringing back in to Turning Points USA.
Then everything you say is garbage after that because Josh Hammer is garbage.
So he says an unwell lunatic used screenshots of an intimate group chat I was in with Charlie Kirk and some others to impugn my character in the worst way and allege somehow I somehow had foreknowledge or worse of my own friend's horrific assassination in those screenshots from about 3:30 to 4 p.m. Eastern Time,
the day before he was killed, Charlie was blowing off steam in a private group chat setting.
Donors have every right to withhold donations, and organizations, CEOs, and chairmen have every right to then be upset when donors withhold those donations.
This is just the nature of donors and donies in the not-for-profit space.
Nothing to see here is what he's saying.
Nothing to see here.
Just blown off steam.
He didn't mean it.
Just joking.
Just joking, just joshing around.
Couple of bros goofing around.
As I've previously explained, notice the notion that Charlie Kirk was turning on his career-long friendship with the Jewish people and the Jewish state of Israel, as opposed to sarcastically blowing off steam in a private group chat setting is an egregious lie and is belied by the facts.
Two hours after Charlie blew off steam, how long do you think it took him to come up with that?
Oh, we'll say he was blown off.
I got it.
I'm a genius.
And how many people were involved in that piece of propaganda?
How many people were on that conference call to figure out how to respond here?
So let me just finish reading his tweet.
The New York Post covered this Zoom call shortly after Charlie's death.
In short, Charlie sought out our advice for how to better communicate the Israeli issue on campus so as to be most effective with the younger Gen Z audience.
Yeah, that's not what he was doing.
Charlie was passionate about fighting the mind virus of conspiratorial Jew hatred, something he made clear over and over and over.
So Josh Hammer is just a flat-out liar and he's bad at it.
The final ever messages Charlie sent in this WhatsApp chat, which were delivered hours after the deeply out-of-context screenshots that the aforementioned lunatic and others have been discussing this week, made clear that Charlie was deeply grateful for our help.
After our call, he felt more confident and reassured that he could make the case for the Jewish people and for Israel.
This is almost like this is almost, I couldn't write a sketch this funny.
These are literally Charlie's final messages in a WhatsApp chat.
Emotions can run high at times, but Charlie Kirk remained a true friend of the Jewish people and the Jewish state to the very end.
Yeah, no, he was screaming.
He was on Megan Kelly's show talking, screaming about he was on his own show talking about how he's being bullied, how he's being slapped, how he's being called an anti-Semite by those Jewish people.
And of course, that chat message showed that he had said, I could no longer support Israel.
And of course, what Ian Carroll says, just moved to Israel at this point.
I mean, Twitter is for talking shit, and sometimes you just got to tell it like it is.
So I think the Schofield Bible is letting your enemy write out your day planner.
Anyway, this is the weakest proof I've ever seen.
This is supposed to offset what Candace presented, the fact that he was cordial and civil.
LOL.
Okay, so yeah, that doesn't erase these text, these chat messages.
Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes.
I cannot, will not be bullied, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.
That's what he was saying.
And Josh Hammer makes up this garbage.
Why don't you just tell me about the miracle bullet again and how Charlie's got Superman steal bones?
That's why the bullet didn't go through.
Sam Parker says, fact, Josh Hammer randomly dug up a 12-year-old tweet about public executions the night before Charlie was assassinated.
Fact, the same night before the assassination, Josh Hammer told us he had a meeting with Charlie wherein he claimed Charlie hadn't changed his mind on Israel.
He neglected to say anything about Charlie's group chat statement from the previous day.
Fact, Josh Hammer was in the group chat where Charlie admitted he was going to have to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
Yet Hammer remained completely silent about this and called Candace Owens a liar for claiming Charlie's stance on Israel was shifting.
Fact, Josh Hammer knew about the letter to Netanyahu, but remained quiet and let others break the story.
Why is Josh Hammer calling people liars for making true claims while remaining silent on key pieces of insider information himself that refute his own claims?
Watch Josh Hammer tell you about being in the group chat and tell you Charlie wasn't shifting his stance.
This is now confirmed to be untrue.
And it turns out Candace Owens was telling the truth.
Why did Hammer lie about Candace and not produce this information himself?
And just so you know, here's these tweets.
So on September 10th, he tweeted out public execution.
What?
And then here he is retweeting Donald Trump should be public execution for all to see.
You will end this bullshit fast.
That's from That was from like 2013.
2013, yeah.
2013.
There it is, 2013.
Yep.
Isn't that more than a little weird?
And boy, when you bring Josh Hammer into politics, everything seems like a nail, if you know what I'm talking about.
And by the way, if you look at the ratio on the tweet, it's time to bring the hammer down.
Here it is.
Here he is talking.
If you think Tucker Carlson is more dangerous and radical anti-Semite than Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, or David Duke, what action might you take to prevent Charlie Kirk from continuing to platform him to millions of Candace Owens?
For that, but let's listen.
What Charlie was essentially trying to do was he was essentially trying to figure out how to navigate this to keep the Nick Flentes, neo-Nazi Grouper stuff at bay while trying to meet the younger generation, the Gen Z folks who are pretty wobbly on this issue, kind of meet them on their own terms and to try to kind of guide them towards a better place without using kind of the outmoded rhetoric and talking points of kind of the 1970s, 1980s boomers.
That's essentially what he was trying to do.
Now, we can quibble as to whether he made the right decision here or there.
I happen to not like that Tucker Carlson speaks at Turning Point USA events.
I think Tucker Carlson is a malicious anti-Semite.
I think he's the most dangerous anti-Semite in the history of the United States.
I think he is a profoundly dangerous man.
Really, I genuinely feel that way, actually.
So I was not a fan of Tucker speaking at these events there, but Charlie deserves the benefit of doubt on these issues because, again, what he was really trying to do is to kind of hold the line to keep the Fuentes Groiper stuff decidedly on the fringe, you know, very much out of the tent at the movements.
And, you know, above all, what Charlie was trying to do was to, you know, he saw himself correctly as a coalition leader, as a coalition leader of really MAGA, of the American right there.
And we can kind of quibble as to, you know, where exactly you draw the line when you're trying to kind of build an alliance of that nature there.
He was trying to kind of strive towards some sort of middle way, third ground foreign policy that was neither kind of Ron Paul isolationist nor, you know, a George W. Bush neoconservative.
And that, by the way, in some ways is probably why he gravitated towards my book and the way that I speak about this issue, because I very much of, I personally am kind of of the Trump doctrine.
He's plugging his book.
Dude.
But it's disrespectful to ask any questions.
Don't ask any questions.
But definitely definitely lie about everybody, impugn their character, call everybody the worst anti-Semite in the history of the country, and then plug your book.
So I think we know what kind of person he is.
I just want to show you this.
Every accusation is a confession.
Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA.
That's what Josh Hammer says.
Europe will never change.
Jew hatred is inherent in the collective DNA.
I am Jewish proudly.
I advocate every single day of my life for the Jewish people and for the Jewish state of Israel.
So go ahead.
Respond to the does Josh Hammer, is he connected with TPUSA?
Yes.
Not in a, I'm not entirely sure of the nature of his role.
I don't think he's like an employee of TPUSA as much as an advisor, but you absolutely nailed it on bringing all of those different elements of this story together because there's a lot.
And, you know, I think that it sort of speaks for itself, everything that you just put together there.
But the piece that I would encourage people to go back to after this show is finished is strangely and coincidentally, Josh Hammer played a significant role in the early evidence we had in the conversation when Candace first started sounding the alarm on something's not right here.
Because she pointed out that Charlie Kirk had hosted Dave Smith and Josh Hammer for a debate about Israel at the most recent Turning Point USA event, and it was extremely controversial.
And Dave had a really poignant analysis of it after the fact where he noted that Dave had already debated Josh Hammer.
I think he was, I think Charlie was going to have him debate someone else that pulled out.
And so sort of like, I think last minute, Josh Hammer stepped in.
But from Dave's perspective, he had already debated Josh Hammer and quite handily clobbered him.
And so Dave was walking in to his first TPUSA appearance, the main stage, I think the last night of the event, like kind of the feature act of the whole show for a debate that he's basically already won once before.
And so Charlie basically set Dave Smith up for a home run slam dunk of the anti-Israel narrative at his most recent TPUSA event.
And Josh Hammer just happened to be the star of that shit show, which is quite the coincidence.
And what I just today, I went back and re-watched that most of that debate.
And if you re-watch the opening statements that Charlie makes on stage as he's about to introduce Josh Hammer and Dave Smith, knowing everything we know now, it has a whole new layer of meaning because it's all about how, you know, I get shit for, you know, engaging in these discussions sometimes, but I think it's really important, American value, that we hear out the arguments, that we have a great debate, and that whatever the best, the best argument is, wins.
We need to let free speech be our guiding star and all this stuff, right?
And it, it really, you have a whole different perspective on that debate and on Charlie's remarks, knowing what we know now.
And I can only imagine how much trouble Josh Hammer is in for getting them all into this predicament.
It's not, it's not great for them.
Not looking great, Josh.
I mean, why would he even come out and make those tweets?
They're so transparently bullshit.
They've gotten away with so much for so long that I kind of just suspect that they can't even imagine being held accountable or caught or anything of that nature.
Because the tweets that he put out, or rather, the text messages that Josh released to prove his innocence don't even prove.
They show nothing.
They're just like a random piece of conversation.
Whereas Candace's are directly relevant.
They're really unbelievable that Candace actually had that screenshot of him saying explicitly, I'm going to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
And a great place is like one of the, I think a good place to kind of drop at the end here is to remind us all that at the end of Candace's segment, her last segment this last week, before taking this break that she's on for this next week, she claimed directly that she has been told by three people that she,
she hasn't seen it herself, but she was told by three people separately, two of whom apparently have like photo evidence that actual text messages that Charlie said on the day before he was killed that he said he was afraid that they were going to kill him.
So the big question is, who's they?
Who's going to release those screenshots?
Because we all want to see them.
And obviously, who is they?
Well, I think I know who they is.
I think we might have some guesses.
I have a guess, but I'm too Viclemp to tell people.
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So I wanted to talk to you quick.
There's a peace deal.
Well, there's a ceasefire deal.
And here's a very quick summary.
Multi-phase framework focused primarily on ending the two-year Gaza war rather than resolving the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The first phase, which is Israel approved on October 9th, includes an immediate ceasefire, release of all remaining Israeli hostages, which they're about 48, and within 72 hours.
And then Israel's going to release approximately 2,000 Palestinian.
Well, that doesn't seem equal, does it?
2,000 Palestinian prisoners, including 250 serving life sentences and 1,700 detained since October 7th, 2023.
Partial and also partial withdrawal from Gaza with forces remaining along the Philadelphia corridor.
That's the Gaza-Egypt border for security.
So I guess they occupy about 70% of Gaza right now, and they're supposed to pull back to 50%.
That's what I've heard.
And they're going to open the Rafah crossing for humanitarian aid under international oversight.
Subsequent phases, negotiations to begin post-hostage release, outline Gaza's demilitarization, transitional governance by Palestinian technocrats under the International Board of Peace, which is going to be chaired by Trump, and large-scale reconstruction funded by Gulf states and international donors.
And what I just want to, this is what Scott Ritter has to say about it.
Because Hamas wants a Palestinian state.
I mean, that's what this was all about.
This was about creating the conditions for a Palestinian state.
And now Hamas actually has a deal.
Again, people need to put this in perspective.
Go back to the days and weeks after October 7th, 2023, when the initial discussions were being had about a ceasefire and what Hamas' demands are.
Every single demand of Hamas has been met.
I mean, this is a Hamas peace treaty.
Trump has packaged it up and has sold it to the Israelis, but Hamas is getting everything they asked for.
So, you know, why would Hamas do this?
Because this is what they wanted all along.
The idea that they're a terrorist organization that exists just to run around and blow things up and commit violence and kill Israel and all is absurd in the extreme.
Hamas has been fighting for a Palestinian state for a Palestinian homeland.
And this agreement creates the opportunity for that.
So that's exactly why Hamas would be willing to do all this.
But at some point in time, I would whisper in his ear, Hamas won.
Hamas won.
They got everything they wanted.
Thank you, Mr. President, on behalf of Hamas.
So that's Scott Ritter saying Hamas actually won this war.
They got everything they wanted.
I think that remains to be seen.
But go ahead, unpack this.
We'll take it where you want, Ian.
Yeah, obviously, it's very fresh, and there's a lot more that we don't know than that we do know.
One thing we do know is that we've seen Israel violate countless ceasefires in the past, but I'm optimistic about this one, and I'm trying to stay that way.
Because Scott's right that Hamas and the Palestinians in general are getting a lot of what they want, but unfortunately, it's at an extremely high toll of loss of life.
You made a funny comment about the inequal number of prisoners being exchanged.
And it's, you know, when you know about how many Palestinians have been rotting away in Israeli prisons with no due process for years in some cases, it's not surprising that the deal includes the release of a whole bunch more Palestinians than Israelis.
But I'm just, I'm glad that I'm glad about hostages being exchanged in all regards and people being hopefully set free peacefully.
And I noticed that the plan, they mentioned that Israel wanted there to be no big media circus around the hostage release, which makes sense because the media did not go so well for Israel the last time that we had a bunch of hostages being released.
Memes still circulate to this day of like Israeli prisoners saying things to Hamas terrorists or whatever.
They're saying nice things and thanking them and saying bye, Shukran.
And yeah, and giving a warm goodbye to their hostage keepers.
And so they don't want people to see that.
They don't want to see that Hamas actually took good care of the hostages, unlike when Palestinians inside an Israeli jail.
Or at least as good a care as they can while they're under siege, right?
Correct.
Starving and all these things.
Hopefully this ends the famine.
But there's all these complex layers wrapped up in this.
And I think the best place for people to start to access this and look into it and research it and gain a more complex understanding of what I think is going on here is the word technocrats.
Because in the reporting, in almost all of the reporting, you can see that they say that the leadership of Gaza will be handed over to an interim government of technocrats.
And there's a couple of, it's not entirely clear what they mean on face value, but one thing is that they're apparently like non-political.
And they're people that have interests aligned with the global banking cartel.
Oh, really?
Because if you look into what has been happening in the West Bank as of last year, their new government as of last March-ish is also led by technocrats.
And a lot of the leadership in the West Bank right now, the word technocrats means previously worked for the World Bank, previously worked with these globalist financial power centers.
And so that starts to, A, it starts to explain why a deal might be being made because the deal is logically going to benefit the banking cartel if the banking cartel is being put in power in these places.
But also it starts to explain how we might be watching maximum profit being extracted from every part of this plan because the war was extremely profitable for bankers and war profiteers the world over.
And now I would expect that the reconstruction process will be milked for all that it's worth too.
But that doesn't necessarily make it bad as far as I'm concerned.
The stopping of the killing is great.
And if it's going to happen in a corrupt way, at least it's less killing, hopefully.
But I am reticent to jump up and down and clap and celebrate because there's a lot we still don't know.
And there's a whole lot of what looks like the same old players profiting in the same old ways, just with a new script this time.
So here's a Video of them leaving.
So now they're going back to their homes in Gaza City.
And what's left of them?
Yeah, what's left of Gaza City and what's left of the Palestinians.
Thousands of displaced Palestinians started streaming back towards their abandoned homes after a ceasefire deal.
So let's listen.
So here, well, look at this.
It's wild to watch.
It...
It's incredible.
It is incredible.
It's tragic.
Hopefully it's happy in the end.
It's mind-blowing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so under the terms, Hamas is expected to release 20 living Israeli hostages within 72 hours, after which Israel will release 250 Palestinians serving long terms in Israeli prisons, as well as 1,700 after it.
I think that'll be really telling what happens after Israel gets their hostages back.
Yes.
I don't want to be a broken record and just assume that Israel will do something bad after they've got their hostages back.
I'm hoping that the deal holds and the peace is assured.
But I'm very much waiting to see when the hostage exchange happens.
What's the next move?
And is everyone acting in good faith from there on?
Because Israel has been claiming that the hostage release is their whole mission all along.
But when you actually look at statements being made by people in Israel's government and Israel's military, it's pretty apparent that actually a lot of violence, bloodshed, occupation, land grabbing seemed to be on a lot of their minds.
So I'm hoping that Trump has enough strength and he has enough partnership with the Gulf states around Israel to get this thing to stick.
That would be truly monumental if it can.
So, you know, we've talked about this before.
Trump has this 20-point plan, but it's still that has not been accepted by both sides.
That needs to be ironed out with negotiators.
Trump's plan also calls for Hamas to disarm, for the Gaza Strip to be governed by an international transitional government and for a full Israeli withdrawal to a buffer zone on the strip's border.
Now, why would you know to voluntarily disarm seems doesn't seem wise?
Does it seem wise to you?
Not really.
There's an element where in this current political environment, I could understand how it's safer to disarm now than maybe ever before, because there's so many eyes on Israel and Israel is in such a precarious position on the global stage.
And now that Trump is, you know, sort of staking his reputation, although we've seen him destroy his reputation for apparently no reason on other things like Epstein.
But now that Trump is apparently staking his reputation as the peace president on this deal, I think that there's a better chance of disarming going well than there ever has been before.
And I do think that if I was to see it from the Israelis' side, having Hamas armed in the strip definitely keeps tensions high.
And tensions high is a risky thing right now.
So I don't know what to make of that.
You know, it's going to be a part of the plan regardless.
I don't see Israel agreeing to the plan without it.
So, you know, at a certain point, it's kind of from this person, from where we're sitting, it's kind of watch and see.
Well, here is a former Israeli hostage negotiator.
He says the ceasefire deal agreed upon this week could have been done over a year ago.
Let's listen.
Well, in May of 2024, President Biden then presented what I thought was a bad deal.
It was a partial deal that would not end the war and would not bring all the hostages home.
So in July, August, hostage families approached me and asked me if I could help negotiate a better deal.
I contacted Hamas interlocutors that I've been in contact with now for 18 years and asked if Hamas was willing to make a full comprehensive deal at that time.
I spoke to Israeli military people and asked them how long it would take Israel to withdraw from Gaza.
And they told me three weeks.
So I told Hamas, would you be willing to make a deal that in three weeks the war would end?
All the hostages would be released, more than are there right now, and Israel would withdraw from Gaza.
There'd be security guarantees and other elements of the deal.
And Hamas said yes after the leadership approved it.
And I received it in writing in Arabic and in English, transmitted it to the Israeli negotiators who told me that it was a great deal, but the prime minister refuses to end the war.
I tried to get the Americans directly engaged.
The deal went to the desk of President Biden, but his main point man on the negotiations, Brett McGurk, refused to look at it.
His own negotiators told me that they were very frustrated.
I was invited to Qatar and presented it to the Qataris, but they all told me that they couldn't do anything unless the Americans bought into it, which didn't happen.
So the deal that was being done today could have been done last September.
So I mean, in some ways, it could have been done on day one because on the first day, Hamas offered to exchange all of their prisoners if Israel didn't enter the Gaza Strip, which Israel was never going to agree to and they didn't.
But, you know, the barrier to peace has kind of been Israel's desire to level Gaza and America's apparently inability to lead the world the entire time.
100%.
Here's one more.
Wolf Krieger says Israel was forced into this and they don't want it.
That's obvious, which means it won't last.
I'm worried about that.
Yeah, very worried about that.
They'll find some way to get the war machine going again.
And I agree because they're not going to abandon the Greater Israel Project.
Candace Owens has a new theory.
Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here.
It's not just one shooter, she says.
Let's listen.
The wiser, right?
No one else is telling us anything or showing us anything.
And I think they were going to say, or the other option, like it completely took his neck out.
We wouldn't have been any wiser.
But then I watched it, and the thing that jumped out at me was that not only did the bullet not pierce through, that there wasn't a single dot of blood on Charlie's bleach white shirt until he falls out of frame and onto the ground.
I think we accidentally ruined what they were going to try to do to frame this.
I think they wanted this to be a 30 out 6 narrative.
And now they're going to have a lot of difficulty getting that through a courtroom.
They panicked, tried to explain it away.
They're saying that it's a miracle.
I don't think it is.
And obviously it was not a miracle.
I think it is likely that what we should be looking for are two people that had weapons that day.
Somebody that was in the audience, somebody that was elsewhere with a rifle.
That explains also why, by the way, when I take a look, there's so many adults.
There's no UVU kids that were in the mainstream media.
Cooper's not even a UVU kid.
He's on TPUS kid.
Why were they not able to find UVU students to say what it is that they heard and what they saw that day?
And what's really interesting is I told you guys already about Nick, who has been assisting me on the ground.
And one of the first things he said to me was that I felt like they were coming around, the feds were coming around, and they were trying to implant memories into our heads.
So he was like, I felt like there were these people walking around that we didn't recognize.
And they were like, you heard one shot.
You heard, we heard one shot.
We heard one shot.
And he's like, I know that sounds weird and conspiratorial, but it seems like they were trying to make us believe that this is what we heard.
And it's interesting also, because remember, when Phil Lyman gave us his footage and he walks outside of that building, the two now infamous goth girls who are not goth at all and they're just wearing black, they say that they heard two shots.
They never made it to Fox News.
They never made it to the mainstream media, but they too also said that they heard two shots.
Take a listen.
What can I say, guys?
I think it's pretty obvious that our instincts about this have been correct from the very beginning.
We probably need to be now looking for a shooter that was in the audience and to the left.
I've seen you guys.
I saw some guy, Alex Jones, I created, like he created a whole web and explained and did this all on a computer of what where the trajectory would have to go.
We need you again, ballistic YouTubers, gun people, gun enthusiasts, military men, the people that they're discounting and saying you have no right to get clicks.
No, please get clicks.
Explain to us what it is that you know in this decentralized intelligent agency, given the information that I am telling you, okay, that it had it unless we have a bullet that's doing the worm like a WWE wrestler, okay?
Bullets fire straight.
And this one went straight into the front, left, lower side of his neck, essentially exploded his artery and did not exit out of the back.
But that is where a bullet fragment was found.
So map it out for us.
So Ian, she's saying there's a distinct possibility there was two shooters and other people were reporting that they heard two shots.
Of course, none of those people who say that have been interviewed on any of the corporate news or any news.
So take it where you will.
There's actually, there is one exception to that rule that she, she's done such a great job of pulling literally everything that happened and sourcing all the data.
And there was one guy that just happened to be there and he was a, he already was a Fox News contributor and he had he was a former Utah politician or something.
So he had the chops to get on to mainstream media and he witnessed it and he did a number of hits with Fox right early on before they kind of shut him down, I think.
And she played some of his clips on the show where he was saying and he was actually pushing back against the low sea center theory, the mainstream narrative, and saying that he thought it was probably from much closer.
I don't think he was saying two shots, but he was saying he thought it was from much closer.
But there's a lot to unpack about this clip.
And actually, shameless plug, I'm going to be going live on my channel after we're done here talking tonight on YouTube to try to unpack a lot of this and other stuff around the Charlie Kirk situation because what she just said is sort of two different things at once.
One is the evidence that she saw and the other is what that evidence implies.
But she spoke about it in a way that sort of blended the two together without it being super clear, which was what was stuff that she saw for sure in the report or in the leaks that she's getting and what is being extrapolated.
And what I'm hearing is that the bullet fragment found in his like neck shoulder area is from the report.
And that's the evidence that she saw.
But that there, that that means that it for sure was a shot from the front.
I think it is extrapolation because she saw no blood in the video that she saw, and because there's a bullet fragment, I think it's kind of getting pieced together that way.
I think there is a possibility that there might be an entrance wound on the back still because entrance wounds often do not bleed.
They're often not visible immediately.
They're often very, very small.
And there sort of is a lot of reporting like coming out from like Stephen Gardner and Brandon Tatum, a lot of sort of the TPUSA aligned folks that are talking about damage to his spine all the way from C2 near the top of his neck all the way down to C7 at the base of his neck.
And the angle that the bullet is coming in at from the front, from an elevated position, if it was on the Low Center roof, it wouldn't be the C2 vertebrae is way up behind your jaw from the front.
And so for damage to hit, like happen to the C2 vertebrae, if that reporting is accurate, is not really possible with a shot from the front, at least not expected in the way that we think.
And so I'm still kind of holding multiple possibilities in mind, but a shot from the front from a much closer distance with a smaller caliber gun definitely aligns with what we see better.
And so I'm really looking forward to what the experts say because I'm definitely not a ballistics expert, but a lot of great ballistics experts have been unpacking all of the elements of the ballistics from the crack bang analysis to the visual that we have of the wounds from the videos.
And so I'll be really curious to see what they put out over this weekend on the topic.
So you're talking about, so if he was shot by the person that the FBI says shot him and from where he shot him, the angle would be coming like this, and there's no way it could hit the C2 vertebra unless it went through his mouth.
Exactly.
So if it came in here, it wouldn't be able to hit that, just like you said, that vertebra, which is up behind his jaw.
And so that does.
So it really lends itself more to the idea that there was another shooter with a lower caliber bullet and shot him from the crowd.
Yeah, and it also gets into another part of what's so fishy about all this, what's got so many conspiracy theories flying around, is that the first thing you do in a murder by gunshot is you get the bullet because the bullet is what matches the crime to the gun.
And the gun is a very specific rifle.
It's almost suspicious how specific this rifle is.
It is a family heirloom, antique, one-of-a-kind rifle that we know for sure is owned by Tyler Robinson because he was the shooter, damn it.
And so without the bullet to link it to the gun, there's not like that is, and I was literally just talking to a really good friend of mine who's a Boston cop that's done countless homicide investigations.
That's the first thing he said is that you need the bullet to link to the gun.
And if there's no exit wound, as Candace describes, Candace describes, comes in from the front, the bullet is still in there somewhere.
And ostensibly, they should have it.
Candace's theory is that the body may have been tampered with before it got to the medical examiner and they may have extracted the bullet so that it can't be, you know, analyzed in this way.
And that's certainly possible.
I mean, that, you know, all sorts of shades of JFK in that kind of a theory.
But not having the bullet in there is extremely suspicious, no matter how you slice it.
So great work, Candace.
Again, look for a second shooter, and there's no way that that bullet came in at that angle and hit his C2 vertebra.
There's no way.
And if, again, if it was a 30 out 6, it would have blown his head clean off.
Yeah.
And there wouldn't have been, it just, it's obvious.
We're talking about is this ceasefire deal going to stick?
And, well, I love the, Ricky Hale says he speaks out.
Israel agrees to another one of those ceasefires where Israel does not cease firing.
The Onion also nailed it.
Israel agrees to go back to killing Palestinians on a less frequent basis.
And of course, they've been proven right already.
Those headlines have been proven right already.
This is from the Global Samud Flotilla commentary.
It says, Israeli tanks targeted Palestinians who were celebrating the ceasefire agreement and attempted to return to Gaza City via the Al-Rashid Street.
As Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu announced the postponement of the ceasefire start, Israeli warplanes, drones, and tanks continued to strike areas across the Gaza Strip.
So that's their tanks.
So the people celebrating a ceasefire and Israel starts firing on them.
Of course they did.
I think the classic Israeli tactic of trying to kill as many people and children as possible before the ceasefire officially goes into effect is pretty good evidence that it's not really about the hostages at all.
And just to remind you, Israel has a ceasefire with Lebanon right now.
But guess what?
What they're doing during their ceasefire?
Nearly daily airstrikes, drone attacks, and artillery fire targeting alleged Hezbollah sites.
That's what's happening during their ceasefire with Lebanon.
So again, if any other product broke as often as an Israeli breaks their peace treaties, they'd be pulled from the market.
We know that.
And here is Wolf Krieger says, Israel, I already saw this in the last, but Israel was forced into this and they don't want it.
That's obvious, which means it won't last.
Unfortunately, they'll find some way to get their war machine going again.
And so they're already, so they, so doesn't that tell you exactly what they said that this isn't about the hostages?
This isn't about peace.
This is about Israel trying to wipe out the Palestinians and kill as many of them as they possibly can.
At least for the far right-wing coalition that's currently in power around Benjamin Netanyahu, for them, it's always been about exterminating the Palestinians and taking all of their land and expanding into the greater Israel region.
I would argue that for Benjamin Netanyahu, it's really just self-preservation.
He's going to do whatever he can to not go to prison because the moment that Benjamin Netanyahu is no longer prime minister and his corruption trials resume, he's going to prison.
And if anyone hasn't seen the documentary called the BB Files yet, highly recommend you watch it.
It has incredible behind-the-scenes footage about that trial, and it really elucidates how the war and October 7th and the alleged standdown order that was given all seems to fit directly into place for Benjamin Netanyahu to stay in power and delay the inevitable justice that will be served to him the moment that he has to face the very real corruption that is very well evidenced on his behalf.
And Israel has a long history, recent history also, of imprisoning their leaders for corruption.
They actually do.
Yep.
They've done it for prime ministers.
They've done it for presidents and they've done it for high-level executive positions as well.
And so Bibi knows that he's next, right?
Because people have been, you know, a year ago, even more so, thousands of people surrounded Bibi's home.
Not his office, not the parliament, not the Knesset.
They went to his house, thousands and thousands of Israelis to protest against his corruption.
I thought they were protesting against his handling of the Gaza conflict.
They were protesting at that time his corruption and his rigging of the Supreme Court.
And to me, it's like in the middle of a genocide.
That's kind of like protesting against Pol Pot for more bike lanes.
But anyway.
But if he ever does go to jail, one thing that is going to be absolutely epic, Jimmy, is his wife Sarah's response caught on camera.
I don't know if you're aware of how much that woman drinks, but the BB Files documentary has a whole segment on Sarah Netanyahu and on her drinking habits and on how she treats people.
And anyone that's watched footage of Sarah Netanyahu knows that that woman is truly unhinged.
And I really hope that we get to see someday soon Sarah Netanyahu screeching at the top of her lungs about how she's innocent and you can't do this to her.
And she knows people.
She knows very important people.
Very wealthy people.
So we'll see.
So isn't it amazing how that doesn't get reported in the mainstream news, the corporate news?
Ever gets brought up?
That Benjamin Netanyahu is really, as long as he can stay in war, which is why he's bombing eight different countries at once.
Eight different countries.
Tell me who's the terrorist in the Middle East.
Is it Hamas?
Is it Al-Qaeda?
Is it ISIS?
Or is it Israel in the United States?
Israel is now bombing eight different countries at once and breaking every ceasefire they ever had.
So anyway, it'll be, I just, I still, well, again, fingers crossed, this all works out.
But we know it's amazing that corporate news does not report that Benjamin Netanyahu is doing all this warmongering and making sure that he, everybody knows he's the one blocking the hostages releases.
Even the people in Israel have protested against him because they know he doesn't really care about the hostages.
He needs Hamas to hang on to the hostages so he can continue bombing them and stealing their land and continuing the Greater Israel Project.
Because if they gave up their hostages right away, he'd have no, no, there's no pretense for him to keep doing what he's doing.
So that's why he's blocked every hostage release negotiated deal.
But isn't it amazing how that never gets reported in the United States?
Never once.
Ever.
I mean, it's not surprising when you actually look at who owns and runs all the media companies, not all, but like an awful lot of the media in America.
And they're buying up more social media platforms.
You mean like not just Israelis, but Jewish Zionists as well.
You know, it's no surprise.
It's the way the media goes here in the United States.
Well, now that Larry Ellison owns one-sixth.
Exactly.
One-sixth of all U.S. media plus TikTok.
And conservative Inc influencers are still out on X screeching about how like, see China controlling TikTok isn't going.
So it's like, bro, come on.
We all know who controls TikTok at this point.
We all know who Larry Ellison loves and is here for.
I think that in looking at the greater, the bigger plan here, the ceasefire deal, the peace deal, all of it, like we said at the start, great, great thing.
We hope it works.
At least I hope it works.
It really does feel like this is not, it doesn't feel like this is happening because Trump's heart is so big and he like cares about peace so much as because the power of the Gulf states, you know, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, a lot of these nations are just now maturing into sort of financial and political maturity.
A lot of these nations were ravaged by like CIA coups, by the oil industry, like just, you know, raping them for all of their resources.
And so the wealth in those Gulf states has been building over time as they've been using their oil and controlling their own resources in that way.
And now the Gulf states, like in general, the Arab world there is extremely powerful financially.
And a big tipping point was the board of BlackRock had a representative of Qatari Sovereign Wealth Fund for a long time, and then they swapped him out for a representative of Saudi Arabian, like the Saudi Arabian National Oil Company.
The financial world that really kind of moves everything around behind the scenes, they are getting more and more aligned with the Gulf states.
And I can't help but feel like this is just sort of the next logical progression in that power realignment as Israel has kind of expended their political capital around the world.
And the Gulf states have been just increasingly money talks and they've got a lot of it.
And I can't help but suspect that a lot of people are going to be making a lot of money on the rebuild and on whatever comes of Gaza.
And I'm sure it'll be better than the genocide that was just happening.
But I'm not optimistic that it will be prioritizing the well-being of anyone on the ground.
And I just wanted to show you this video, Ian.
So I don't know who did this.
TRT Haber put this together and it shows you this is what Palestine used to look like and now what it looks like after Israel's two-year genocide.
Let's go ahead and play it.
And so that's what it, that's what it used to look like, a real society, a real place.
And it's just been wiped off the map.
Exactly.
I've just seen some estimates say that it could take up to like 50 years or more to clear all the rubble, which I suspect that is not going to be the case, but it's just unbelievable what they've done.
And it will, it is unbelievable the task of any type of rebuilding on that land.
Even Satan was like, hey, guys, I think you got to rein it in a little.
Yeah.
I mean, just take a look at that.
That is, they've just turned it into nothing.
Well, Jimmy, Hamas was underneath those, all of every one of those.
Every one of them.
So, you know, what other choice did they have, really?
Those are all very targeted strikes.
The most targeted, the most moral army ever in history, actually.
They just had to target every single building in the entire place.
Yeah.
And, you know, I've seen people on MSNBC as recent as yesterday trying to say that, you know, they've killed less civilians than we did.
We did, you know, percentage-wise, racial-wise, than we did in World War II.
That's, that's their.
Yeah.
And I don't know if you know, after World War II, we got together and decided that we shouldn't kill civilians after that.
Yeah.
We had a whole big conference about it, wrote down some things on some papers.
Yeah.
I don't know, over in Geneva, maybe you heard of it.
And that's why you're not supposed to do that.
So it's gross to see people on what's considered left-wing media, which it's not.
It's just pro-war anti-worker media, MSNBC.
It's funny what what passes for left in America passes for left nowhere else in the world.
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