CNN Host SHUT DOWN By Veterans Administration Secretary!
After answering repeated questions from CNN anchor Kaitlin Collins about the Signal group chat breach and security of communications among Trump cabinet members, VA Secretary Doug Collins turned the question around and asked Collins about a $5 million defamation suit her network settled with a veteran who successfully argued he had been libeled about his involvement in the Afghanistan withdrawal. Jimmy explains how Collins ignores the most important part of the Signal breach story. Plus segments on the REAL reason Trump is shipping all those alleged gang members from Venezuela to El Salvador, newly minted HHS Secretary RFK Jr. targeting big processed foods manufacturers and James Corbett talking to Jimmy about the phony left-right divide. Also featuring Stef Zamorano and Mike MacRae. Plus a phone call from JD Vance!
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This is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, what's up, dude?
This is J.D. Vance.
Hello, Mr. Vice President.
How are you?
I'm good.
I understand that your wife and son are going to be taking a little trip.
Actually, yeah, that's true.
How'd you hear about that?
They're just taking little old vacation.
I read about it in the news.
Wow.
Okay.
Must have been a slow Newsday.
Mr. Vice President, don't you think the timing of your wife's trip to Greenland is a little suspicious?
And at the same time, the National Security Advisor will be visiting Greenland as a tourist?
Wait, you think there's something going on between them?
No, I mean, aren't these random trips to Greenland a little odd?
What are you talking about?
Everybody wants to go to Greenland.
What kid is not hoping to someday go to Disney World and also Greenland to go musk oxen sighting on the outskirts of Kangaroosowak to behold the majestic Illulissette ice fjord to experience the vibrant nightlife of downtown nuke before 9 p.m. when everything closes.
We all know about this stuff.
No, we do not.
Oh my God, what are you even talking about?
Given what President Trump has said regarding what President Trump has said regarding Greenland?
Dude, I literally don't know what you even mean.
All I know is that my wife, Usha, was a little girl growing up in India.
She dreamed that someday she would be able to go to Greenland to see their annual dog sled race.
And she finally gets to go and live her childhood Indian dream.
Okay, first of all, your wife was born and raised in San Diego.
Oh my God, what are you?
Her biographer?
What is even going on right now?
I'm so confused.
Like literally what has happened.
Mr. Vice President, please give us a break.
No one's buying this act you're putting on.
Okay, hold on.
I just Googled Trump and Greenland, and apparently the president did say something about the U.S. annexing Greenland.
So now I do remember him saying that, as a matter of fact, I think it's an excellent idea.
And also, come to think of it, I have made public statements in favor of it and called Denmark a bitch.
Yes, you did.
Thanks for remembering all of a sudden.
Thanks for jogging my memory.
Thank you.
But.
but But Usha's trip is just totally unrelated.
A major coincidence.
The culmination of a lifetime Greenland dream.
Sure.
Okay.
Remind me, why should the U.S. annex Greenland again?
Oh, so many reasons, Jimmy.
Sea lanes, national security, prestige.
Greenland is big.
As climate change progresses, there's a possibility of extracting valuable minerals from the tundra that we'd otherwise have to obtain from other places.
Also, if any ancient cavemen get unfrozen and come back to life, the U.S. would want to control that situation.
Okay, that last one isn't really official policy per se, just something I think would be cool and would want to see happen.
Okay.
Jimmy, the name of the game here in the Trump administration is identifying opportunities and taking full advantage of them.
I'll give you another example.
Example.
We're going to buy 23andMe.
Excuse me?
You know 23andMe, that DNA company?
Yeah.
That people would mail their spit to in order to find out how much Irish they are.
Yeah, I'm familiar.
Well, they just went bankrupt.
Really?
I can't imagine why.
Yes, their whole business model was charging white people $350 to tell them they're white.
How do you fuck that up?
Probably DEI hires.
Anyway, the whole company is now being auctioned off.
And with it, the DNA data of like millions of people.
Oh, so whoever buys 23andMe will just own all that DNA data.
Yep, and people are mad, but like, what did you think would happen?
You gave your DNA to a corporation?
Are you nuts?
Well, I assumed it'd be ethical.
Then you're dumb.
Yeah.
Point is, I say we should buy it.
We, we, who?
The government or Trump himself?
Or since I'm the finance guy at the RNC, the RNC could buy it.
The line between this administration and the private sector is blurred beyond recognition.
Why would you want 23andMe?
Are you kidding, dude?
Because of all that sweet DNA, that primo data.
If anyone should be abusing that shit, it should be the government.
Like some middle-aged housewife gets the DNA test, is all excited.
She's 1.6% Native American.
She's buying dream catchers and shit.
Next thing you know, she's being cloned in the basement of the Pentagon or like they're trying to grow just her head on the back of a Komodo dragon or some shit and then trying to teach it to talk her head.
I mean, good God, why would they do that?
Just because they can, man.
But also, you know, that would be good in war.
Like if you were fighting and then a Komodo dragon with some lady's head on its back talking showed up, you would run away.
I don't care who you are.
Good God.
I'm sorry.
This got weird.
That's on me.
I took it there.
Yeah.
Anyway, I gotta go.
I gotta help Usha pack for Greenland.
It's pretty cold there, right?
Or is that Iceland?
Also, which one has volcanoes?
Dude, I know nothing about this place or where it is.
Anyway, I'll call you back sometime and lie to your face again, cool?
Cool.
Establishment media sets of farmers fighting.
So good luck with bullshit we can't afford.
Watch and see as a jack dog, comedian speeds and jumps the medium and hits him hit on.
It's the chimney tour show.
So this is the VA secretary.
He went on with this tool of empire, Caitlin, whatever her name is.
And so she tried to get him.
All she wants to talk about is that signal chat that they had with JD Vance and Heg Seth and that guy Waltz, right, about the strike they did in Yemen.
And so that was a big security breach.
And she brings on the guy who's the head of the VA, the Veterans Administration, and that's all she wants to do is like, play, is just talk about that, right?
And which is very telling.
It's very telling.
But first, let's watch it.
Let's watch him school her a little bit.
Do you believe that a mistake was made here, though, to have this conversation, to add a reporter and to have it on an unsupported, unclassified group setting?
Caitlin, as I've just told you, I've just answered the question.
I wasn't part of it.
And I'm not going to speculate more than what the president's already talked about and those who've been involved have talked about, but we'd love to talk about the veterans.
Yeah, and I do have questions about the veterans, but given what we saw with the but I'm not gonna, but I'm not gonna ask them right now.
I do have a question.
I'm gonna keep asking these questions over and over and take up most of the segment with this salacious shit.
And I'm gonna actually overlook the important part.
And the well, I'll tell you what the important part is in a minute.
Chat and how this was used.
You are a member of the cabinet.
You obviously know these other members, several of them who were in there.
Is this typical for the cabinet to have conversations over Signal?
Is this something that you use?
Well, Caitlin, Senior John Dally do not want to talk about the VA.
I have a question as VA secretary.
His cabinet, I want to ask you because I've been coherent about this because my job is to take care of veterans.
And I would like to know why CNN is hostile to veterans, especially one in Florida, where you just had a $5 million defamation suit taking offense at a veteran who was trying to help people.
In fact, one of your employees actually said we're going to nail him.
I have a question for you, Caitlin.
Is that employee still unemployed?
Are you really concerned about veterans?
So if we don't want to talk about veterans now, you want to talk about everything else.
I'd like to hear from CNN as the veteran cabinet secretary why CNN seems to have a problem with veterans.
So what he's referring to is that they slandered a guy who was a veteran, and then the veteran actually sued them.
They said that he was trying to make money off stuff that he wasn't, and they had to pay him $5 million.
And so that's what he's bringing up.
Why are you guys slandering veterans?
And so he's throwing it right back at her.
And here's how she handles it.
Well, Mr. Secretary, respectfully, my question was about whether or not he was a member of the cabinet.
And respectfully, I'm conducting the investigation.
And I do have a lot of questions for you on Veterans Affairs, but I don't think that's what the cabinet I've already answered.
And if you want to continue this like this, that's fine.
But there are VA employees who are working very hard.
There are veterans who get their care from the VA and they get their benefits from the VA.
And it does me no good to speculate on something that I've already asked and answered.
So I've asked and answered your question.
Why don't you answer mine?
Are you still this person still employed who said they're going to nail one of my veterans?
Who you had to do a $5 million award for jury because of defamation and then you settled the case.
Answer my question.
Respectfully, sir, I'm asking the questions here and I have no investment.
But if you don't want to answer the question about whether or not it's.
So that was fun to watch.
But what the important part is, is that she's not really, nobody in cable news or in corporate media is concerned about the real issue about the Yemen bombing.
They only want to talk about this.
Oh, they screwed up and they used this signal thing and they included this reporter.
That's all they wanted.
They don't want to talk about the real thing.
And so here's what I said about it.
I said, what's actually damning here is that CNN is not upset that Trump and the war machine is once again bombing the shit out of the poorest nation on earth in the Middle East.
Their only concern is the plans to do so were leaked and mishandled.
CNN and all of corporate media is pro-bombing Yemen, just like they always are for bombing anywhere, anytime.
So that's what's it's amazing to see the narrow confines of what they want to talk about, the parameters of what they only want to talk, they don't want to talk about the actual bombing and how it's Tulsi called it unconstitutional in 2019 when Trump did it then, but now she's all for it.
Trump said you didn't have to do it in 2023 when he was running for president and that Joe Biden didn't have to do this bombing of Yemen and now he's all for it doing it.
And they're not bombing military targets.
They're bombing civilians.
But CNN's on board for it.
They're pro-war.
CNN's pro-war.
Fox News is pro-war.
MSNBC is pro-war.
They're all pro-war.
They're for every war.
They're for the Iraq war.
They're for the Afghanistan war.
They're for the Libyan war.
They're for the Syria war.
They're for the Ukraine war.
Now they're for bombing Yemen.
And believe me, they'll be for the Iran war.
So that's the big, that's the thing that, of course, they're not going to talk about.
And that's why I have a show because corporate news sucks because they don't want to talk about the real issue that Donald Trump ran on a non-interventionist policy.
He ran on saying things like, you don't have to bomb Yemen.
You can end this with a phone call.
But of course, they're doing that Not for anybody in the United States, not because our shipping lanes, those are shipping lanes that have to do with Europe.
Almost nothing comes for the United States from those shipping lanes.
So Europe, if Europe has a problem with those shipping lanes, they should try it.
Or maybe Israel should stop bombing the hell out of Palestinian women and children and stop blockading food aid.
And maybe Yemen will stop.
will open up those shipping lanes again, which they did when there was a ceasefire.
They opened up the shipping lanes.
And then as soon as Israel broke the ceasefire, and that's not me saying that, that's the Israel newspaper Horetz saying that Israel broke the ceasefire because they did, because they don't want those hostages back.
Because if Israel gets those hostages back, then they don't have any reason to go in and steal all the land in the West Bank and Gaza.
Okay?
And so that's, to me, that's the real tell here, is that all they want to do is talk about this gotcha, this mishandling of classified information.
They don't want to talk about the real issue that the United States is, again, doing another unconstitutional, illegal war where we're targeting civilians.
That the United States is once again bombing someone at the behest of the Zionists in Israel and Benjamin and Yahoo, and they're doing it to civilians.
And once again, we're the terrorists in the Middle East.
We are.
And so I just want to give you some.
So I tweeted that out, right?
I tweeted this out with this video.
I just want to give you some.
And here's some of the responses.
Just so I can knock them down for you.
So when people say stupid things like these people are saying, I can show you what to say back to them.
So Kofifi Kimi says, I never hear any plausible alternatives.
I mean, you have to bomb Yemen.
What's the alternative?
How would you address the Houthi attacks?
I said it's not our problem.
It's Israel's problem, and you're falling for propaganda, convincing you to support the latest war for Israel.
Congratulations.
Not our problem.
How would I address the Houthi attacks?
I wouldn't.
I would get our aircraft carriers, our destroyers, and our bombers and our submarines the hell out of the Middle East.
That's what I would do.
That's how I would address it.
Right here.
Grok.
So this guy does, Grok.
How many times have vessels been attacked in the Red Sea from sources in Yemen since November of 2023?
It's not our problem.
Who cares?
They're standing in solidarity with the Palestinians, the people in Yemen.
Got nothing to do with us.
That's someone else's problem.
It's not our problem.
It's Israel's problem, and you're falling for the propaganda, convincing you to support the latest war for Israel.
Congratulations.
That's the response to that.
That's it.
There's another one.
Door makes really good points here.
Thank you.
Thank you, red-pilled ex-liberal.
I appreciate that.
But guys, like him never mentioned that the Houthis have killed or wounded dozens of civilians on merchant ships and exactly what to do about this problem.
It's not our problem.
Turns out it's not our problem.
That would be Israel's problem, and that would be Europe's problem, not our problem.
It's Israel's problem, and you're falling for the propaganda, convincing you to support the latest war for Israel.
That's what you say back to those people.
We don't have to have a solution.
This isn't our problem.
Why would you want to have a solution for a problem that's not us?
Uh, yeah.
Thank you.
The poor country is rich enough to attack every Navy ship that enters the Red Sea.
So your take is we should bow down to Yemen and keep out of the Red Sea, including our commercial ships.
My take is we should have our Navy ships in the Middle East.
We shouldn't have our Navy ships in the Middle East, along with 400 military bases.
This is another war for Israel.
Mind-bogglingly, you don't see that and just repeat war machine propaganda because that's what that is.
What should we do?
The U.S. has been bombing the shit out of Yemen nonstop since 2014.
Trump and Tulsi both opposed this when it was Biden doing it.
Tulsi said it was unconstitutional and the world's biggest humanitarian disaster when Trump was bombing Yemen in 2019.
Enjoy your next war for Israel and Iran.
That's what you say back to that.
So, okay.
And by the way, that's Carlos Suave.
That's Rico Suave's third cousin.
They're bombing civilians as usual.
And yes, it's unconstitutional and it's a war crime.
But whatever you do, don't look into it and just believe and repeat what you hear from the corporate media.
Experts, leaked messages show Waltz admitting to war crime in Yemen.
So what we did was a war crime.
And it's unconstitutional.
How do you folks in that group chat sleep at night?
Yemen's health ministry says majority of the 53 people killed in the U.S. strike were women and children.
So again, we're the terrorists.
This thing that we say Hamas is horrible for, we're the ones doing that.
We're over there killing women and children.
Just so you know.
They're not war crimes anymore.
They're whoopsie-daisies because we're doing them.
Yemen health minister.
There it is.
Most of the 53 killed in U.S. strikes were women and children.
And just to remind you what Donald Trump said about Yemen when he was running for president.
I look at your policies.
I see secure the borders, bring jobs back.
I look at the Democrats and many Republicans, and it's foreign war and foreign expansion.
What is that?
Those goddamn Democrats, they're all for foreign wars and foreign expansion.
Goddamn Democrats.
Now the Republicans are in charge.
I think it's just a failed mentality.
It's a failed mentality.
It's crazy.
You can sell problems over a telephone instead.
They start dropping bombs.
I see recently they're dropping bombs all over Yemen.
You don't have to do that.
You can talk in such a way where they respect you and that.
So it's what did he call it?
A failed mentality that he's now fully embracing.
Just so you know, the flags represent U.S. military bases surrounding Iran.
So who's the aggressor?
That's the United States.
This is from 2017, that map.
And I just want to show you.
Can you turn down the volume from my computer?
This is all the video of all the U.S. military bases around the world.
No other country has this.
China has one military base outside of their country.
Russia has maybe 20.
This is the United States.
That's the United States.
Keep going.
This is it.
This is the United States.
This is how our country ends.
Overextending.
Look at it.
Look at all our military bases.
Look at all the military bases.
Look at all those military bases we have off of China.
We have them in Australia.
We have them everywhere.
There isn't a place we look at South America, Central America.
We have military bases everywhere.
And you wonder why there's homeless people everywhere.
You wonder why you can't afford bread.
You wonder why you can't afford to go to college.
That's for real.
That's yeah.
Just think of all those stick pins as acupuncture, and we're just relieving the pain of the world.
That's what that is.
And by how do we relieve them of the pain?
Why we relieve them of the burden of having their own minerals, oil, and resources.
That's what those, that's what those things do.
You want to see it again?
You want to see it again?
This is the United States military empire.
This is how all empires end.
This is why the dollar, this is why we're $37 trillion in debt, trillion.
It's why the dollar is going to be worthless soon.
Here it is.
So, you know, we'd be better off taking the money we spend on those things and just giving the money to the people.
At least we'd have goodwill.
Look at this.
This is nuts.
Look at all the military bases.
Let's go over to Europe.
Let's see how many.
Look at that.
Boom.
Look at the Middle East.
Look at your, it's non-stop military bases everywhere.
And you're paying for it in one way or another.
And Trump and Doge are never, ever going to close those military bases.
They're not.
So they're going to go after your Social Security and your Medicare and your Medicaid before they go after that.
So all that show about Doge and the USAID and NED, which was good.
It's good.
They should get rid of that stuff.
But that was all window dressing compared to the big problem.
And Steve Bannon was on this show, and he said, you'll know they're serious if they decide to go across the Potomac, which means the Pentagon, which means this.
There's no reason we need this.
What this is, is capitalists want a gun to go extract wealth and resources from other countries.
That's all this is.
And why do you think we have so many of them in the Middle East?
That's where the oil is.
And how many times are we going to overthrow governments so we can steal their oil and natural gas and resources?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Africa, the Middle East, just jam-packed.
Okay, so now you know what to say back to people.
Hope that was helpful.
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So there's been a bit of a problem with the people they're sending to El Salvador.
So here is Marco Rubio.
He's going to admit that the people that they said were Trende Argua, Aragua, the gang members, they're not all gang members, turns out.
And then we're going to tell you what the real reason is behind them sending them there.
Watch this.
Secretary Rubio, when you and President Bukele, you mentioned Trendaragua several times.
When you and President Bukele negotiated the deal to transfer the U.S. deportees to his prison and secote, did you discuss any provisions to ensure that individuals mistakenly identified as gang members would have access to illegal recourse or that they can secure their release if they are wrong bronze?
Yeah, we have that list was carefully vetted, provided to us by Homeland Security.
We have confidence in it.
What we negotiated is the reality that they in Venezuela in El Salvador comply with all the national international requirements for imprisonment.
So we sent them people with a combination of people, gang members, people we knew were involved in.
Oh, a combination of people.
That's new.
I was told it was all trade in Agua, all gang members.
Now it's a combination.
Activities that were not productive to the United States.
Oh, they were doing activities not productive to the United States.
We'll tell you how to be productive, pal.
Hang on.
All of them removable in terms of our laws.
All of them.
Every single one of them was someone who was removable from the United States, irrespective.
And MS-13 members, many of whom are Salvadoran, that we had identified as MS-13 members that they had helped us identify as well.
And that was a combination of people that we sent.
Combination.
We may send more.
We'll see.
So Adico House has a little bit of information.
Let's listen.
Nicholas Madudo might have just helped us solve this strange mystery of mass deportations of Venezuelans from the United States, not back to Venezuela, but to El Salvador.
So to get you guys caught up, the Trump administration just wrangled up a bunch of random Venezuelans, claimed they're in a game, sent them to El Salvador, and just put them in prison without a trial, without due process, and without a thorough investigation.
And, you know, I'm all for you deporting criminals and gang members and anybody like that.
But if someone's not that and you sweep them up anyway, they're Supposed to be allowed to a court hearing.
In fact, Trump-appointed lawyers recently have been pushing back on this.
I mean, judges, Trump-appointed judges.
Like, this is nuts.
Let's say they just pick you up off the street.
You're not a gang member.
You're not, they don't even, they don't give you a court date.
You have to have a court date.
Here we go.
Trump administration claimed that these people were part of the gang Trén Jaragua, which is a gang and really an international criminal organization based out of Venezuela.
Now, the reason everybody finds this particular mass deportation a little bit strange is because the Trump administration isn't sending these Venezuelans back to Venezuela.
He sent them to El Salvador to one of the worst prisons in the world.
And by the way, Venezuela said they would take them.
Didn't send them there.
Without any trial process, we don't even know if these people are actually part of the gang.
And many of them have zero criminal history.
I mean, as we speak, they're a now.
This is the same stuff that people screamed about when George Bush was doing it.
They're doing the extraordinary renditions, meaning just grabbing people off the street, putting them in a van, shipping them to Guantanamo.
And the reason why they never gave any of those people to trial is because they didn't have anything to do with any of it.
So they were, oh, you know, I think there was a couple thousand people there at one time.
Now there's like 30.
Lawyers from Venezuela appealing to El Salvador's Supreme Court because they are questioning the legality of the detention of these Venezuelans, considering all the information I just gave.
A lot of people might question why is Trump so perturbed by this particular gang, Tren G. Arabua, that he would just go after them and then just immediately throw them in prison in another country instead of sending them back to Venezuela.
Well, Trump messed around and opened his big mouth and said, it's because we believe Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela sent them here, United States, to invade the country.
They emptied jails out, other nations emptied their jails into the United States.
That's an invasion.
And these are criminals, many, many criminals.
Murderers, drug dealers at the highest level, drug lords, people from mental institutions.
That's an invasion.
Now, now we know that the CIA works with the drug cartels.
Okay, so just so you know, all right.
Okay.
And the FBI.
It's prompted Maduro to tell the truth about this particular game.
Maduro lets the world know that this particular gang is actually used as a tool of the opposition to Maduro's government.
So they're not, they're the opposition to Maduro.
Okay.
So they're not working with Maduro.
Who are they working with?
The CIA and the FBI.
Huh?
Wait.
Gets better.
Watch this.
We would like the U.S. government to set aside the lies that they are telling.
They say there was a plan to invade the United States.
You can turn that down a little.
And that we invaded it with the so-called Trendiago in the United States.
So they understand the Trey de Argua gang serve the interests of the opposition that you have supported in Venezuela.
So the people like Juan Guaido, they're on the side of Juan Guaido.
The president of Colombia took the criminal gangs, including Trey de Argua, from Venezuela to Colombia.
From there, he spread it.
Leopold Lopez directed relations with Trey de Argua gang personally.
And the FBI has quite a few recordings.
Okay, you could turn it back up.
And his administration despises this gang.
They literally sent the military to the prison that the gang was started because they basically turned the prison into a leisure complex for themselves.
Maduro also makes it known that Leopoldo Lopez, a former opposition leader of Venezuela, has often worked with this gang to facilitate some of their criminal activities and also some oppositional activities within Venezuela.
He also said that former president of Colombia, Ivan Duque, was accepting these gang members and spreading them all throughout Colombia, also assisting in their operations.
And it's important to remember, Ivan Duque called Maduro a dictator, supported Juan Guaido, and wanted to see Maduro overthrown.
And Duque supported the overthrow of evil Morales.
And then Maduro says the FBI has plenty of recordings to prove all this and that the FBI has even been involved.
And as it turns out, ladies and gentlemen, an FBI agent got caught trying to tip off one of the members of the Kraini de Aragua gang.
So now.
So isn't it interesting?
This gang working with the FBI, the CIA, the opposition to Nicolas Maduro, Juan Guaido, those types of people.
All of this should be making sense.
This gang is active as an asset for the United States.
And that wouldn't actually be out of the norm for the U.S. because we know they use cartels and criminal organizations all the time to facilitate criminal activity around the world, especially in Latin America.
But the problem is the gang is actually a problem.
And Trump promised mass deportations and to wrangle in violent immigrants and gang members.
But if you really sent 200 random Venezuelans back to Venezuela and they conducted an investigation to figure out that they weren't part of this gang that you said that they were part of, then the world would figure it out.
And the world would also like to know why your investigation was so bad and your intel was so awful that you accidentally sent 200 Venezuelans back to Venezuela as gang members when they were never part of this gang.
So insane.
So the implication, what Nico's saying is that most of these guys aren't the gang members.
These are Venezuelans that aren't part of the gang.
And if you would send them back to Venezuela, they'd soon be revealed they weren't part of the gang.
Now, we already showed you for sure there was a couple of those people that weren't gang members.
We already showed you that.
So here's more to this.
Then you send them to El Salvador without due process in a prison they'll never get out of in hopes that no one will ask any more questions after you send them there.
Because if this gang truly is an asset of the United States, then you can't disrupt their criminal organization or they're not going to continue working on your behalf.
Or they would at least be less effective in helping you oppose the Maduro administration, which is obviously a goal of the United States and has been a long-standing goal of the United States for some time.
But also.
So, from what I'm understanding, what he's saying is that they really didn't send that gang to El Salvador because that gang's actually working with the FBI and working with the opposition in Venezuela that we want to overthrow Maduro.
They're working with us to overthrow Maduro.
That's what he's saying.
Of course, if you arrest too many of them, they're just going to start snitching and saying, well, we were working with this FBI agent.
We were working with this CIA agent.
We were working with this politician.
And then everybody involved gets exposed.
And the world would then figure out the United States was working alongside a criminal organization, an international criminal organization, just to help support its opposition of Nicholas Maduro.
So by taking 200 random Venezuelans and sending them to El Salvador, you make it look like you're being tough on this gang that is actually working on your behalf without ever having to verify that these people were actually part of this game.
While that particular gang gets to continue.
So if they were actually part of that gang, why wouldn't you want to give them a court date to verify it?
Why wouldn't you?
You want to verify it?
Why would you want to do something unconstitutional that leads to this?
Business as usual, while Trump gets to look like he's tough on immigration and cartels like he promised during his campaign.
And the American people would be none the wiser.
So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
This is probably just a big ass smokescreen to continue protecting U.S. interests while pretending like the Trump administration is actually keeping its promises.
But in actuality, it's just continuing business as usual, just like the Biden administration.
So the implication is we're in the United States government, the FBI, CIA, they're in bed with that gang that he's saying they're cracking down on.
Of course they're part of the opposition in Venezuela.
And so the implication is they're not actually cracking down on that gang.
They just grabbed 200 random Venezuelans and shipped them out of the country.
We showed you the one was a soccer player who was actually tortured by the, according to him, the Maduro government.
So I don't know.
That's pretty interesting.
What do you think?
What do you think, Misha?
Is that interesting to you?
Yeah.
Well, you know, to me, you can see just how, I mean, like, as soon as you showed us the story that they were being all collected and taken to one prison system, I'm like, but they're all not from that country.
Why are you going to that country?
Right.
Why that country?
Why wouldn't you send them?
I thought they were going to be sent back to their homeland.
Right.
Why do I want, and two, didn't it give you like kind of like when you would see them?
You're like, okay, so you have this collection of this one gang all collected in this one site.
That doesn't make sense either.
Being that they could still communicate with each other and still do whatever they want to do.
So it does, you know, there are people here that are commenting right now.
They're like, no, they should just be sent back.
They don't get due process.
No, they do get due process.
The minute you don't allow people in our country to have due process, that goes against what our country is about.
The whole thing is like if they could do that to them, they could do it to you.
The inability for people to see what they do to someone else, just like we say, whatever they do to people overseas, they're going to eventually do to us.
Now we have the militarized police.
Now they're locking people up for protests.
Now they're locking people up and kicking people out of the country for criticizing another country.
Think about that, how crazy that is.
So, yeah, I mean, I guess you admire Gestapo.
Then I guess you admire the SS and the Stasi state.
All that shit you're supposed to hate, fascism and communists and Gestapos and Stasis.
You're supposed to hate that stuff.
We're supposed to be better than that.
Oh, fuck it.
It's not me yet.
So, but the important thing is, this is a smokescreen.
It doesn't even matter.
None of that shit even matters.
What it looks like is that this is a big smokescreen, that the government, your FBI, is working with these people.
You know that, right?
You know the CI and the FBA.
They work with the drug cartels.
They don't oppose them.
So guess what?
Bobby Kennedy made a big announcement.
So this is from Holden Colada.
He says, big food CEO told RFK Jr. what really terrifies them in a private meeting two weeks ago.
Today, RFK Jr. revealed what they told him.
And then he did exactly what they were afraid of.
Here's something else that's going to enrage your idiot liberal friends that Bobby Kennedy is going after some corporate drone.
Just to let you know.
So here it is.
Two weeks ago, RFK Jr. met with CEOs of Kraft, Heinz, General Mills, Tyson Foods, Kellogg's, Smuckers, with a name like Smuckers.
That has to be good.
And PepsiCo for a private meeting in D.C. I also say this, that the food companies all came and met with me two weeks ago.
And they're a little scared of me, but they're more scared of Governor Morrissey.
Because what they said and the reason they said, well, tell us what you want, we're going to do it.
And they said, but stop these governors from passing these laws because we don't want to patchwork where West Virginia and California are banning food dyes.
And we have to make special products for those states.
So they're terrified of this, of what you're doing.
So he's talking about a governor, governor, who's thinking of doing his own banning of bad pesticides, bad chemicals in the foods.
That's what he's talking about.
Governor Patrick Morrissey, West Virginia.
He just made West Virginia the first state in the nation to make sweeping changes to clean up our food, defying the big food CEOs.
And let's listen to him.
First of all, let's listen.
That's why today I'm proud to launch what I'm calling the four pillars Of a healthy West Virginia.
First, we have to clean up the food.
We really do.
We got to clean up the food, but you got to back away from the buffet.
Come on, buddy.
Learn to be just a little hungry and then go into ketosis.
Okay?
Here we go.
Let's start with no more dyes and dangerous additives in the schools.
Look at that.
We know that studies show that can lead to issues with hormones and hyperactivity and learning challenges for kids and even cancer.
Our kids deserve better, and now they're going to get it.
You deserve that.
That's why, earlier this week, we took the first step to remove those harmful dyes from school nutritional programs and food items throughout the state.
And we're going to make lard the official state vegetable.
Okay.
And anybody looking for those dangerous chemicals can stop by my house if you know the same guy.
I'm thankful to the legislature for their leadership in passing this bill and making West Virginia a leader, the first state in the nation to make sweeping changes to clean up our food.
Okay, I'm going to hope, I'm going to hope some of those changes include the hormones and antibiotics they pump into the farm animals.
I wonder if it includes that.
Okay.
So that's pretty good.
But, you know, but without color-coded food and liquids, how can we program our children?
That's my question.
Governor Morrissey also signed the intent for the state of West Virginia to file multiple SNAP waivers banning soda and ultra-processed foods, ultra-processed food from SNAP purchases.
So here's what you have to keep in mind: a SNAP recipient.
So if you're getting food stamps, that's what that is.
If you're too poor and you need assistance, and I remember even Adam Corolla, when he was a kid, he said they used to get food stamps.
You know how much they get?
They get $187 a month, which turns out to be $6.16 per day.
So if you want to get rid of ultra-processed foods, which everybody does, you have to make real foods less expensive, not more expensive than ultra-processed foods.
That's why they eat the ultra-processed foods because it's cheap.
Yeah, that's why they'll go to fast food restaurants.
And that's why they live in food deserts and they don't have fresh food and they have to eat nothing but ultra-processed food.
Either you give them healthier food or you give them more money to buy healthier food.
Okay.
By the way, I think my voice can travel.
Isn't it a wonderful and historic moment to have a Kennedy in West Virginia?
That's right.
Thank you.
Nice.
There you go.
Now.
What does it say?
I don't know what it says.
They say bake at Mazit Maha something.
Maha, Virginia, I wonder.
Now I will be signing the.
I hope that's a reinforced chair.
Anyway.
For the state of West Virginia to file multiple snap waivers as I described.
Oh, there he is.
He's signing it.
Okay.
Exciting.
They got the kids around them because this is all about the kids.
That kid's like, you better sign that.
What are their hats says?
I can't see what it says.
Make America healthy again.
I think that's what it says.
Looks better on Bobby.
Then RFK urged all the other governors to do exactly what Big Food asked him not to do.
Get in line behind.
Well, let's listen.
The message I want to give to the country today and to all the other governors is get in line behind Governor Morrissey and apply for a waiver to my agency, and we're going to give it to you.
That's the way we're going to win this.
So he's telling each individual governor, go ahead, do it yourselves.
Come to apply to my agency, which is exactly what Big Food doesn't want them to do.
They want a uniform set of regulations.
And he's saying, screw it.
Do it individually in your own states.
I got one more slide here.
I don't know what this is.
Let's watch.
You know, I want to commend Governor Morrissey not only for his vision, but for his courage, because it's very, very hard.
And for these legislatures who are pushing this bill, all of them are getting calls every day from the big soda companies, the sugar soda, and the fake food companies.
We're not eating food.
We're eating food-like substances.
Yeah, food-like substances.
That are addictive.
Yeah, like pink slime.
That's your hamburger meat at McDonald's, the pink slime.
Remember that when we covered that?
So here's the, this is the USDA Secretary, Brooke Rollins.
She pledged to work with RFK Jr. to reform SNAP and stop subsidizing soda and ultra-processed foods.
Let's listen to what she says.
I would welcome Doche to be involved.
I think anytime that the government and massive government programs like the SNAP program, which is our food stamp program, anytime you can get sort of a business perspective on are we hitting our goals?
What are the metrics?
What is the metric for success?
Oftentimes, these government programs are started with the idea that you're going to help people.
It's not a handout, it's a hand up.
And then years later, the programs are even bigger and you've got more people on them.
And are we really giving people a hand up or is it instead a handout?
So if we can have a whole other group of really smart people looking at SNAP and other programs at USDA that will allow us to ensure what are our metrics for success.
Are we meeting those metrics for success?
Will we ever take food out of a hungry child's mouth?
Of course not.
This is the United States of America.
But truly, this program has grown so large, especially in the last administration.
Under Biden, I think SNAP grew almost 30% more than before.
We really have to look at where that money is going, what it is being spent on.
I look forward to working with Bobby Kennedy as we figure out: do we have the healthiest choices?
So, when a taxpayer is putting money into SNAP, are they okay with us with us using their tax dollars to feed really bad food and sugary drinks to children who perhaps need something more nutritious?
So, these are all massive questions we're going to be asking and working on in the coming months.
Are Americans okay with us using their tax dollars to feed really bad food and sugary drinks to our children who need something more nutritious?
I don't know if you've shopped at Walmart, they're not only okay with it, they're throwing a parade for it.
And they'll give you your own float.
You can drive around Walmart to buy all those sugary snacks in years, and I look forward to solving some of these major, major issues for this country.
So, this is a small first step.
I think it's a it's a step that would have never been taken if RFK wasn't there.
So, good for him.
And I'm looking for way more of this.
I'm looking for way more of this.
Um, uh, way, way more.
So, this is good.
It's good.
Hey, yeah, we need to, so you can't just stop them from using SNAP to buy ultra-processed food and sugary drinks.
You have to give them alternatives.
That's the important thing.
So, now let's see how that works out.
Because people don't want to eat shit.
People would rather eat good food.
But we have to make that available.
We have to get rid of food deserts.
We have to put that into the school lunches, good food instead of ultra-processed.
And of course, big soda is pushing back on that.
And the big food companies are pushing back on that.
So, this is a very good first step.
We need more of that.
You know, I've said on this show a million times that this left-right divide that the whole world is put into is phony.
And you really elucidate why that's a phony game.
And you use the terms upists and downists.
And the uppists are the people, the elite, the handful, what I call them, the handful of billionaires that actually control things, the WEF, the Bilderbergs, the people like that.
And then there's everybody else.
And, well, I like how you and there really is a cabal or a society of the haves, the uppists, as you referred to them in your book, that really do want to control everything.
And they've been doing it for a long, long time.
And let me just read a bit from your book on page 31.
You say, you actually quote Carol Quigley, who Bill Clinton actually quoted.
And she says, the argument that two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the right and the other of the left, is a foolish idea, acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers.
Instead, the two parties should be almost identical so that the American people can, quote, throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.
And that's exactly the world we live in.
And that's the whole, that's like been the raison d'être of this show is to make people realize that meet the new boss, same as the old boss, right?
And that neither of them are going to give you affordable health care.
Neither of them are going to give you, make sure that you're taken care of, the workers are taken care of.
And said, they're both in bed with the corporations.
They're both in bed with the military.
Trump's ending a war in Ukraine, and he's trying to start another one in Yemen and Iran, which could be easily World War III because Iran is aligned with Russia.
And so that's the, it's, so we don't, you know, George Carlin had talked about we have the illusion of choice.
And that's exactly what Carol Quigley was saying.
We have to have two parties to give people the illusion of choice.
But if, and every four years, they get to throw the bums out, but we just replace them with the same bums that are controlled by the same people.
Right now, Bernie Sanders and AOC are doing a nationwide tour, and all of a sudden, they're fighting the oligarchs.
Now, they weren't fighting the oligarchs for the last four years, even though more billionaires, almost twice as many billionaires, backed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as backed Donald Trump.
So they weren't fighting those oligarchs, right?
And here it is, right?
So there they are.
Bernie tweets this out.
Oh, look, Trump.
So it's called Fight the Oligarchy.
They're on a fight the oligarchy and they're bragging about how much more popular they are than Trump was, even though they're lying about the seats and the, they're lying all the way through it.
And Breonna Joy Gray, who used to be Bernie Sanders' press secretary, tweeted this out, retweeted Bernie Sanders' tweet.
And she says, this is going to seem sinister when they tell these people to vote for oligarchs in 2028, just like they did in 2020 and just like they did in 2024.
And so that's a so in fact, let me just show you here how this woman, I think, used to be a Democrat, and she kind of exposes this lie on Fox.
Let's listen to it.
There is such an irony to Democrats talking about oligarchy, because, of course, for every one billionaire that backed President Trump, Kamala Harris had two.
Nine of the 10 richest counties in America are represented by Democrats.
65% of Americans making over $500,000 a year today are Democrats.
75% of hedge fund managers who make political donations donate to Democrats.
And 95% of political donations from the top three management consulting firms go to Democrats.
Meanwhile, President Trump absolutely crushed with Americans who make under $100,000 a year.
The Democrats are the party of the wealthy.
And Donald Trump is representing the working class because he simply lifted the pro-worker elements of the Democrats' agenda when they abandoned the working class to cater to their rich base.
This is all performance art.
And what's so upsetting about it is they are being paid by the American people to serve them and they are doing nothing of the kind.
So she's got a lot right there and she gets a lot wrong.
And the wrong part was she said that Donald Trump is, he picked up, he picked up lip service.
He picked up the words, the verbiage that the Democrats used to use.
But of course, he's not doing that, right?
Of course, he's there to give a tax cut to millionaires and billionaires.
He's there to make sure the military industrial complex gets their cut, Wall Street gets their cut.
And, you know, whatever happened to no tax on tipped wages, whatever happened to no tax, like that's not the first thing they're doing at all.
And of course, they're not cutting the Pentagon.
And this isn't a new game.
This is the, and this is a, so she's right about that.
The Democrats are now the party of the rich and for and it's flipped to where workers are voting for Donald Trump, not because Donald Trump has done anything to actually look out for them, but because they've got nowhere else to go.
And Donald Trump actually offers them rhetorically an alternative to the Democrats, but he doesn't in substance offer them an alternative to the Democrats.
And that's what you talk about in this book, right?
Essentially, yes.
And I think you're right.
She got a lot right there, including it's all performance art.
I'll just extend that, yeah, to both sides of the bird of prey.
Both wings of the bird of prey are attached to the same bird of prey, and they are preying on you.
And just as an example of that, I mean, for example, the, hey, we're taking back the Panama Canal, America first, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who did they give it to?
Yeah, who was behind that deal?
Who got on the phone with Trump in his first days in office to say, hey, guys, let's do this.
Let's cut a deal here.
Oh, Larry Fink, BlackRock, Black Rocky.
Yay, BlackRock took over the Panama Canal.
So we didn't take it over.
We didn't take it.
The United States, the people, the workers, they gave it to BlackRock.
As if they needed it.
America first.
Yeah.
Because they need more power.
Right.
So it is performance art.
It's like professional wrestling, or I liken it to the Matrix.
You'll remember back in The Matrix, they said that the first iteration of the Matrix was one where you got anything you wanted anytime.
The robots made people believe that they were living in this wonderful utopian.
You could get anything you wanted.
People would pull themselves out of that matrix because they couldn't believe it.
They had to make it more and more realistic so people would want to stay in, put some hardships in there, put some things, put some struggles so that you could finally get a system where people will want to stay in the matrix.
I think that is essentially the governing systems that have been going throughout history.
And you've had all these different types of government systems that have come along, but democracy, oh, wonderful.
Hey, you get to put your vote in the slave suggestion box once every few years.
That's your power.
And that's the thing that you can do to change the world and blah, blah, blah.
And they give that to you so that you not only stay in the system, but stay invested in the system.
And unfortunately, what is the result of that?
As I say, the stakes keep rising and rising as more and more power accrues in the hands of this executive presidency to the point where it's a life and death matter.
We have to have that seat of power and we will do anything to get it.
And suddenly, half of the population becomes your mortal enemy.
It's those people.
It's my neighbor is the reason my life sucks.
It has nothing to do with the people at the top.
It's the people around me and we got to fight them.
That is the system that they've gotten us into.
And so when I'm talking about up-down politics, believe it or not, I'm sure this will surprise you.
I was a bit of a science nerd when I was growing up.
And I remember, yeah, when I first started to think about multi-dimensional physics, like what does it mean to have more than three spatial dimensions?
And they're talking about tesseracts and hypercubes and all this stuff.
And, but one simple explanation comes from, for example, Carl Sagan presented this talking about flatland and the idea of these people who live in a totally, completely two-dimensional space.
And you have these like squares moving around on as Sagan was demonstrating on his desk and they could interact with each other, but they had no concept of this up and down dimension.
And suddenly something comes from the upper dimension into their world and they can only perceive it in their two-dimensional way and it can move around in ways that they can't comprehend because there is no up and down.
There's only left and right.
So what on earth?
How did this thing appear?
Suddenly, when you go to three dimensions, it's like, oh, I see what's happening.
I understand what's happening.
This object came down into flatland from the third dimension.
Well, in the same way, politics, what the only thing we ever talk about now is left and right, and I guess center, but it's a line.
All of the political universe is a straight line, and that's the only thing that we can talk about and the only way we can perceive it.
And so suddenly when things start moving around in ways that we don't understand, and hey, that guy said he was on our side, but suddenly he's on the other side and all of this stuff.
What's going on?
We need another dimension in order to understand what's happening.
So if we add the up and down dimension, suddenly we start to understand the political world in a way that makes sense.
Oh, I get it.
There's authoritarians who want more centralized oligarchical power.
And that means there must be a down direction.
People who don't want that, People who want more power decentralized down to the local level, down to the individual.
So there's suddenly a different dimension that's operating here.
And we can better understand that our mortal enemies who are oppressing us are not your neighbor who voted the wrong way.
It's the people at the top who were trying to control you.
Look up.
That's where we should be directing our power.
Well, I've said this.
I've exactly, you got it exactly right.
And I've said it several different ways, which is why I have my audience is made up of people on what's considered the left and what's considered the right.
And they're just divided that way, arbitrary, you know, kind of in a phony way because they all have the same common interest.
So that's the thing that the uppists, the oligarchs, don't want people to realize that they actually have more in common with their neighbors than they do with the ruling people of their own political party or persuasion.
That I have more in common with the MA person than I do with Bill Gates or John Kerry or Bill Clinton or the Obamas, right?
And that's the thing.
And so they want you to hate your neighbor and blame your neighbor for the pain you're feeling.
And, you know, most recently, they wanted the Democrats wanted you to hate the Republicans for the pain you're feeling during COVID because they wouldn't take a vaccine.
And that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place.
Right.
So this isn't, this is all, by the way, this is all by design, right?
So, and I've often told people: if you find yourself angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, it's a good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you, which is the game they play with immigration.
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