Trump To Zelensky: “You’re A Dictator!” w/ Col. Douglas Macgregor
The Biden administration treated Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky as a near deity, a heroic figure inspiring his underdog nation to repel the invading Russian hordes. Now that Trump has assumed power, the dynamic has changed and Zelensky is being described by the U.S. President in very different terms — as a “loser” and a dictator who refuses to hold elections that might challenge his position. Jimmy and Col. Macgregor discuss the reality of Zelensky that Americans have been denied by the mainstream, corporate hagiographic news media seeking to prop up Ukraine in the fight against Russia. Plus segments on Zelensky and Ukraine being snubbed by the U.S. over peace negotiations, Zelensky’s pledge to ignore any diplomatic arrangement that doesn’t include Ukrainian input and health officials Deborah Birx and Paul Offit admitting that COVID policy wasn’t based on science. Also featuring Kurt Metzger and Stef Zamorano!
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Establishment media sets of August fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit.
We can't afford.
Why is fomenting this?
Oh, watch and see as the jet golf, the median speeds and jumps the medium and hit some head on.
It's the Jimmy tour show.
Okay, so Trump called Zelensky a dictator.
Here's his truth social post.
I'll read it to you.
He says, think of it, a modestly successful comedian.
I thought he was talking about me.
Zelensky talked to the United States of America into spending $350 billion.
First of all, nobody has to talk America into spending money on a war that couldn't be won.
We've been doing that over and over and over since World War II.
Also, so I wouldn't put that on Zelensky.
He didn't have to talk us into that.
A war that couldn't be won, that never had to start, but a war that he, without the U.S. and Trump, would never be able to settle.
The United States has spent $200 billion more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed while the United States will get nothing back.
Why didn't Sleepy Joe demand equalization in that this war is far more important to Europe than it is to us?
We have a big, beautiful ocean separation.
On top of this, Zelensky admits that half the money we send him is missing.
He refuses to have elections.
First of all, he, yeah, he does.
He's very low in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle.
Okay, I have to fact check that again.
Zelensky didn't play Biden like a fiddle.
Anthony Blinken stuck his hand up to Biden's ass and worked him like a puppet.
That's what happened.
Okay.
Well, we need to understand something, though.
I know you don't want to compete with Zelensky, but you really can't because he's the only man in the world that can play the piano with his private member.
And unless you want to go in one better, I mean, that's your privilege.
But this guy is a crook.
What else is new?
So he calls him a dictator.
He calls him a dictator without elections.
Zelensky, better move fast or he is not going to have a country left.
In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia, something I'll admit, only Trump and the Trump administration can do.
Biden never tried.
Europe has failed to bring peace.
And Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train going.
I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job.
His country is shattered and millions have unnecessarily died.
And so it continues.
Well, this is all, that is all true.
Well, there's something else here that President Trump doesn't say, but is in the background, and we all need to understand it.
Ukraine is a metaphor for globalism.
And what you're seeing is a globalist war in Washington, Paris, London, these other capitals where the ruling elites have all joined the globalism campaign.
In other words, let's create the new utopian world where we all live under one world government, where we're all obedient to whatever world organizations say, whether it's world health or something else, where there are no borders, where there is no national identity, there is no religion, there is no morality.
It's whatever we say is right.
All of these things are part of the war.
And why?
Because the globalists saw Russia from the very beginning under Putin as a terrible threat to globalism, because Putin said, we are a Russian Orthodox Christian country.
We rest on a foundation that is a thousand years old.
We have a religion, a way of life, an identity as Russians, and we are not going anywhere.
And that's what he said.
And no one wants to hear that because look what we have managed to do in Europe.
Look what has happened to Germany.
France, Italy.
I mean, Italy is making a modest recovery thanks to Georgia Maloney.
God bless her.
But France, one in every four adults or five adults is a Muslim.
And the city of Paris is overrun with non-French.
The French cannot assimilate all of these people.
The Germans can't assimilate them.
Britain can't assimilate them.
This is a problem.
Why are they there?
To destroy those societies.
So that's the, I'm going to ask you that question you just asked about because, you know, Kerr Starmer, I showed a video of him in 2020 who was promoting open borders.
And it was saying that immigrants aren't our problem.
And you're a racist if you think having this.
And then now just a couple, a month or so ago, he came out and demanded answers about this open border policy as if he wasn't the one pushing it.
So it happened not only in the UK, but it happened all over apparently, you know, France.
And why?
What is that about?
Is that just the globalists trying to destabilize countries?
Yes, yeah, absolutely.
It's not just to stabilize them.
It's to transform them.
In other words, to eradicate national identity, national culture, national language, supplant all of that with this amorphous mass of people who at some point in the future will all live in perfect harmony in the utopian globalist community.
And by the way, they'll all be ruled by the globalist ruling elite.
And there won't be any more elections that mean anything because those elections will be rigged.
I mean, that's happening in Germany right now.
They're keeping the AFD, alternative for Germany, which they continually describe as far right, which I throw up and then sometimes I laugh when I hear that because none of these people ever knew any real communists or real Nazis.
These people are moderate people.
All they've said is, we think Germany should survive.
We think borders should be defended.
We think unwanted illegal migrants should be expelled.
We want the rule of law.
We want a halt to the criminality.
Gee, those are really radical ideas, aren't they?
Aren't we asking for the same thing?
Well, this is crazy.
Isn't it funny that the mainstream media, the ruling elite in Europe, they're all warning about this extremism from the right-wing, the AFD.
They're extremists and they're far right.
And I'm like, wait a minute, you're currently imprisoning people who speak out against a genocide that's happening in Gaza, while at the same time, you're funding legit Nazis in Ukraine and you're calling somebody else extreme right-wingers.
Yeah, well, these people are.
I don't like calling them globalists.
I do, but I really think they're Bolsheviks.
They're like the anarchistic Bolsheviks of 1918 and 1919 who swept into power in the Soviet Union.
And they said there are no more Russians, Ukrainians, no more Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, no more Kazakhs, no more Uzbeks.
We're all Soviet people now.
And we're building the new Soviet man.
And our first act is to invade Poland and other countries in Europe so that we can Sovietize them and they can become part of the same community.
It's too close for comfort.
And Starmer is probably one of the best, but not the only examples.
We've got them here in our country, too.
Yeah, well, so this idea to do this, to flood Europe with immigration and to dilute its population and to create also, you know, it also creates people fighting each other instead of coming together to fight the globalists, right?
So they keep you keep.
I always have to remind people: you know, if you're upset at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, pretty good chance you've been manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you.
And that's the game.
So that's that.
That's another, you know, the chaos always favors the establishment, is what I try to remind people.
And that's what they're trying to create: chaos.
They're trying to dilute cultures.
And yeah, it seems like a global globalist agenda.
And keep in mind, Jimmy, the establishment is opposed to the people living in their country.
In other words, Starmer is busy at war with the people who are British.
He doesn't want to prosecute rape gangs because these rape gangs are constituted from young Pakistani men, sometimes others, but usually that.
And they're gang raping English girls and they line up for the opportunity to do this.
This is not unique to England.
This has happened in Germany.
It's happened in Sweden.
It's happening in France.
And who is the problem?
It's the local Frenchman, the local Englishman, the local German.
Oh, no, shut up.
You know, you have to be tolerant.
You're immoderate.
Oh, you are a racist.
Not that this is our country.
We live here.
We have a culture, a way of life.
We have laws.
And we didn't say no one could come here.
We simply said, if you come here, you must adapt and obey our laws.
This is insanity on stilts.
So that's why I said these people are Bolsheviks, because the first thing that the communists did was murder millions of their own people long before they murdered anybody else.
So that's the connection you make between Bolsheviks and globalists, right?
That they're an enemy of their own people in a way.
Yes, and they want absolute unquestioned obedience from the population and total control.
And so don't you also think that that was part of the reason that France, UK, and the United States overturned Qaddafi in Libya was because Libya, Qaddafi always thought that he was safe in a sense because he was the firewall between immigration from Africa into Europe.
And he didn't, I don't think he ever expected them that they would want it.
Well, remember, Qadafi also warned us collectively in the West and said, if you do not find a way to cultivate economic growth, job creation, production, and other things here in North Africa and the Middle East, you will get this tremendous migration because people will leave and go north.
Now, that's what Qaddafi said.
So suddenly we get rid of Qaddafi?
It is a strange question, isn't it?
I can't connect it 100%, but he was being very honest at that point.
By the way, he had also gotten rid of all his chemical weapons.
He dropped all the nuclear stuff.
I mean, quite frankly, if I were anywhere in the world threatened by the United States or anybody else right now from the West, I think I'd probably go down to the basement and build my own nuke.
And I would look at Qadafi and said, that's an example of what happens to you when you don't have one.
I mean, this is the sort of stupidity that we have created that is spreading across the world.
We say, well, Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.
Okay, what happens to Iran without a nuclear weapon?
Right?
That's exactly right.
So Donald Trump, do you have to go?
No, not yet.
No, okay.
Five minutes.
Okay, so Donald Trump said this.
He wants elections.
Let's hear.
We're hearing that Russia wants to force Ukraine to hold new elections in order to sign any kind of a peace deal.
Is that something that the U.S. would ever support?
Well, we have a situation where we haven't.
First of all, there's a little bit of deception in that question when she says they want to force them to have new elections.
There hasn't been any elections since Zelensky got to power.
It's not about new elections.
It's an election.
Okay, here's what Trump says.
Had elections in Ukraine.
Well, we have martial law, essentially martial law in Ukraine, where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating.
And we're a country that's been blown to smithereens.
You got most of the cities are laying on their sides.
The buildings are collapsed.
It looks like a massive demolition site.
The whole, I mean, so many of the cities.
I mean, they haven't done it in Kiev because I guess they don't want to shoot too many rockets in there.
They've done it 20%, but they haven't done it 100%.
If they wanted to do it 100%, it would probably happen very quickly.
But you have cities that are absolutely decimated.
And yeah, I would say that, you know, when they want a seat at the table, you could Say the people have to wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say, like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had an election.
That's not a Russia thing.
That's something coming from me and coming from many other countries also.
So, do you think, I mean, it is amazing that he's just kind of appointed himself dictator.
He's gotten rid of the opposition newspaper, the opposition parties, and he's canceled elections.
So, what would you like to say to Donald Trump's saying that they're going to force elections on them?
Well, first of all, suspend that military aid immediately.
Whatever is going over there needs to stop now.
No more cash to this regime, not a dime.
Get all of the Americans who are inside Ukraine out.
Turn to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
They have monitored and conducted elections for decades all over Europe and even beyond Europe as observers.
Get them into the game.
Stop that nonsense and say you need to bring observers into the country to supervise elections.
But while you're doing that, you need to deliver humanitarian aid.
Instead of sending bullets and bombs and so forth, the Ukrainian people need humanitarian assistance.
Just as we see people in Gaza that need to be fed, need to be closed, need medical care and so forth.
That's needed now in Western Ukraine.
It absolutely must be there.
Those should be the top priorities and let them run this thing.
Can an election be held?
Yes, of course it can.
And I think the Russians want to make sure that whatever government they meet with is legitimate because they know that Zelensky's regime is not legitimate.
That's why it was extremely wise of President Trump to exclude them from any discussion with the Russians right now.
So now, are there some Ukrainians sitting in Russia who could come back into Ukraine and participate in the elections?
Of course there are.
You know, some people will say, well, they're all spies to Russia.
I don't think they are.
There are a lot of Ukrainians living in Russia.
We forget that something in the neighborhood of 2 million Ukrainians left Ukraine and went to Russia when the war started.
Now, will other Ukrainians come back who are overseas?
I don't know.
Many of them may not, but some will.
So we ought to be interested in getting the Ukrainians back into Ukraine because there's something like 14 or 15 million living outside the country in the West.
Get them back into Ukraine in some number.
Let the OSCE supervise this and then have some kind of legitimate council, something elected that can treat with the Russians.
That's all.
And the other point is the Russians don't want to rule Ukrainians.
Wake up.
I grew up with Ukrainians in North Philadelphia.
You know, believe me, the Russians don't want to rule those people.
You'll be at war forever.
They're crazy.
I love them, but they're little nuts and they will not submit to Russian rule.
So that's not on the table.
The table is neutrality and ending the war and not living in hostility with Russia.
That can be done.
I would get the OSCE in there.
I would get us out.
We are not honest brokers.
Forget it.
Neither is MI6 in London.
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Russia and the United States are agreeing to work towards ending Ukraine war in a remarkable diplomatic shift.
That's right from the AP is saying that.
It's remarkable.
Really?
It's almost like it could have been done four years ago.
That's kind of amazing.
Well, that's right.
But you had to have something happen.
Remember when President Trump came in, he began repeating the same stupid figures for Ukrainian losses and Russian losses that were completely false.
Oh, the Russians have lost 800,000 men.
Ukrainians have only lost 100,000.
Ukrainians are still winning.
You know, this kind of nonsense.
And eventually, I don't know how it happened.
I've been yelling at the top of my lungs whenever I go on any of these podcasts or news shows and I say, Ukrainians have lost over a million dead.
The Russians are just shy of 100,000.
So the exchange ratio was always about one to five, then it was one to six, then it became one to seven.
Now it's one to ten.
It's beginning to drop because the Russians are no longer killing as many people because there aren't that many people putting up any resistance anymore.
And also because the Russians really don't want to kill anybody.
Now, I know that sounds strange, but from the very beginning, Russia did not want this war.
We are the ones that subsidized it.
We created it.
We launched it.
And we are responsible for the destruction of Ukraine and a million human beings in that country.
But it took time for President Trump to finally have the truth presented to him.
And thank God, when it was presented to him, he had the guts to stand up and say, nonsense.
This is wrong.
Russia didn't start this.
We are the authors of this.
And you've heard Jeffrey Sachs and others, you know, recite from the text how many different points in time we've pushed against the Russians and driven them back and lied to them and subverted them.
Well, he figured that out.
And so he simply came out and told the truth.
And of course, the most insulting thing you can do in Washington is tell the Washington swamp the truth.
Yeah, that's that's I've talked about that plenty.
Well, here's what Trump was asked by a reporter.
Let's watch watch this.
Do you have any message for Ukrainians who after three years of fighting might feel betrayed or disappointed at not having a seat at these initial talks in Saudi Arabia?
Well, I think I'm really disappointed in what's happened.
I've been watching this for three years.
It's a war that would have never happened if I was president.
And I've been watching these people being killed at levels that you've rarely seen, not even close since the Second World War.
Hey, but can I just say to that reporter before I let President Trump answer this?
Does the American, I would like to know, does the American press have any message for the men that Ukraine stuffed into vans against their will to be killed in vain for BlackRock?
That would be my question for the U.S. press.
Okay, back to Trump.
And I'm very disappointed.
I hear that they're upset about not having a seat.
Well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that.
This could have been settled very easily.
Just a half-baked negotiator could have settled this years ago without, I think, without the loss of much land, very little land, without the loss of any lives, and without the loss of cities that are just laying on their side.
You have those magnificent golden domes that are shattered, will never be replaced.
You can't replace them.
Thousand-year-old domes that are so beautiful.
They can't replace that.
The whole civilization has changed because of what so when they're worried about not being seated, you mean somebody that should have gone in and made a deal a long time ago.
So that's what Trump has to say to that question.
It's amazing how pro-war that the press is.
It's just amazing.
I really will never stop being slackjawed at the United States pro-war press.
But the AP is now saying that this is an extraordinary about-face that U.S. foreign policy under President Donald Trump.
In an interview with the AP after the meeting, Marco Rubio said the two sides agreed broadly to pursue three goals, to restore staffing in their respective embassies in Washington and Moscow, to create a high-level team to support Ukraine peace talks and to explore closer relations and economic cooperation.
Well, it sounds like crazy MAGA talk.
He stressed, however, that the talks, which were attended by Sergei Lavrov and other senior Russian and U.S. officials, marked the beginning of a conversation and more work needs to be done.
Lavrov echoed Rubio's remarks and told reporters that the conversation was useful.
We're not only listened, but we also heard each other.
No Ukrainian officials were present at the meeting, which came as the beleaguered country is slowly but steadily losing ground against more numerous Russian troops and on a grinding war that began nearly three years ago.
Zelensky said his country would not accept any outcome from the talk since Kiev wasn't a part of it.
He's postponed his trip to the kingdom scheduled for Wednesday.
Europeans' allies have also expressed concerns that they're also being sidelined.
So what do you make of that?
Trump is not involving Ukraine.
First of all, I think it's great because Zelensky is just a warmonger, and he had a peace deal the month after the war started that he ripped up.
But what do you say to this, that Trump is not including the Ukrainians at the table?
President Trump has discovered that our friend Zelensky is much, much worse than just a political puppet for the Washington war machine.
He's a criminal.
He's part of the graft and the corruption.
He's stuffed his bank accounts all over the world with hundreds of millions of our cash while he's paid off the senior people in the Ukrainian army to send their men to their deaths, along with subsidizing a secret police, as you pointed out, that is terrorizing his own country.
This man makes Stalin almost moderate in many respects.
I mean, there's no evidence for even the slightest concern about Ukrainian life, despite the nonsense that he spoused.
And I think that President Trump has discovered that.
I hope that Elon Musk and his friends take a long, hard look at this black pit for U.S. money called Ukraine.
It's one giant graft machine.
So no one should take them seriously at all.
I am disappointed that it's been impossible for Ukrainian soldiers in the field who've been doing all of this dying to rise up and get rid of these people because that's really what needs to happen.
But as I said, all of your senior officers, all the way down to battalion commander, these people are being paid handsomely, and the soldiers do all the fighting and the dying.
You know, it's a tragedy that's beyond belief, but it's because of us.
We subsidized it.
We pushed it.
We encouraged it.
You know, what are you going to do?
You tell Zelensky, don't sign the deal.
This is back at the end of April in 2022.
Yeah, we'll send you everything you need.
You're backed by the scientific industrial power of America.
No one can defeat America.
We'll give you everything, and so will the British and so forth.
And at the end of the day, I think he bought that line.
And he can't possibly stand up and tell the truth about anything because it's like putting a noose around his neck.
And I think we're going to see much more of that before this is over.
But the key point of that previous statement is this is going to take time, Jimmy.
There's no trust between Moscow and Washington.
Moscow and Washington supposedly want to build peace and cooperation.
I know the Russians do.
I know President Trump wants to.
But if you're Lavrov or you're Putin and you look at the unending sea of lies that has been pouring out of Washington over the last several years and the hatred for Russia, you have to be a little skeptical.
So I think it's going to take months, not weeks, to hammer out a solution.
But if we do it, we can actually have a much better world.
And with the Russians' cooperation, we're in a much better position around the world because we need their cooperation, not just in Europe, but in the Middle East, but also in Northeast Asia.
And they're close to China, and we want to cultivate better relations with China.
And I think President Trump has made that clear.
He said, I want to take the U.S. Navy out of the South China Sea.
You can imagine the heart attacks in the hallways there and Navy staff.
He said that.
He's right.
And he wants to Do business with China, but he always has said, I want to be smart about it.
We want it on an equitable basis.
It has to be mutually beneficial.
So, again, that's why when you asked about Taiwan, I think the signs in Asia are good.
I also think he wants to get out of Korea.
He made the comment: I'm open to the South Koreans possessing nuclear weapons.
Well, he wasn't really talking about nuclear weapons.
What he was saying is, I'm ready to leave South Korea.
And we are.
We ought to get out of there.
We've been there for 70 years.
The Chinese and the Russians are in control of Northeast Asia, and they can settle the problem on the peninsula quickly.
Xi absolutely loathes Rocketman in North Korea.
That whole regime is nothing but a catalyst for war, which the Chinese want nothing to do with.
It's Moscow that's kept it alive.
But if Xi says, I want this to end, Putin will end it because they depend entirely on subsidies from Russia to do anything.
So I think, you know, Trump has broken the code.
He's on the right track in foreign policy now.
He's talked about cutting the defense budget by 50%.
You can do that if you know what you're doing.
So much of it is graft and waste, you know, and that's what Elon Musk and his friends are going to discover there.
I can't wait till they get to Medicare and Medicaid.
Well, a lot of MAGA people on Medicare and Medicaid.
So we'll see what happens.
But they're also talking about 30 million people that don't exist that are on Social Security.
Yeah.
So that would be good.
I know.
I just saw that.
I'm like, that's hard to believe.
I hadn't, I saw the headline.
I'm like, could that really be true?
That they have, I think it was 20 million.
Maybe it is 30 million.
It doesn't matter.
That's a big number.
that are on Social Security and that are supposedly over 100 years old.
LAUGHTER you Zelensky says he will not accept a deal now because he's not at the table.
So here's what he said.
President Trump said this week he did not say yes when he was asked if he sees Ukraine as an equal member in the peace process.
He did say later that Ukraine would have a seat at the table.
Have you been given any assurances that Ukraine will have an equal seat at the negotiating table?
So I will never accept any decisions between the United States and Russia about Ukraine.
I'll just step in here and say it doesn't matter what Zelensky accepts.
We paid for all this.
So anyway.
Never.
And our people.
Never.
And our adults and children and everybody.
It can't be so.
This is the war in Ukraine against us and it's our human losses.
We're thankful for all the support.
Unity between USA in USA around Ukraine support, bipartisan unity, bipartisan support.
We're thankful for all of this.
But there is no any leader in the world who can really make a deal with Putin without us about us.
Yeah, he sounds like the drunk guy when he's being loaded into the back of the cop car and handcuffs.
You're lucky I'm cuffed right now.
I'd kick your ass.
He needs to pound out a new tune on his piano.
Yeah, no, ha.
So it doesn't really matter if he accepts this or not, right?
Well, let's be frank.
What's his prognosis for longevity?
I don't think it's very good.
Now, I'm sure he wants to join his wife, who's heavily guarded at their Italian villa in Tuscany, where they're growing wine and living the good life.
Anyone want to lay bets as to whether or not he ever gets there and how long he lasts if he does?
So who do you think would come for him?
You think it would be the Azobs or you think the globalists?
Who would come for him?
Who knows?
Okay.
Well, the globalists aren't going to do anything.
They're already at this point, thanks to President Trump and what he's been doing.
I think they're totally discredited.
But the rest of it, who knows?
I mean, you know, there's always the Mussolini treatment.
That's one option.
The Ukrainian people themselves.
Or, you know, there's the Trotsky alternative.
You know, he went to Mexico and miraculously woke up with an ice pick in his head.
You know, I don't want to get into this sort of thing.
I think these things have a habit of sorting themselves out.
Okay.
Colonel McGregor, I appreciate you coming on.
Good luck with your media project.
I hope you'll come back on soon.
There's a million more things we'd like to talk to you about, but I know your time is short.
I appreciate you being so generous with your time.
Great to have you on and look forward to talking to you again soon.
I am your unworthy servant, and thank you for the privilege of joining your show.
Thank you.
This lady here was the coronavirus coordinator for the White House.
Yes.
And she's going to make two shocking emissions.
And turns out the conspiracy theorists were right again.
Here she is.
Let's listen.
By the way, I like how she has very interesting things to say, and it's very important.
But Pierce Morgan has her squeezed in between the creepy rich guy who gets blood transfusions from his son and Grant Cardone, the get-rich quick scheme guy being looked at for fraud by the feds.
Here we go.
The messenger RMA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease because that's what the vaccine was developed for.
But when we say that we're following the science and the data, we need to follow the science and the data.
And the science and the data said people primarily over 65 or people with significant comorbidities were at risk for severe disease.
Those are the individuals that should have been immunized first.
And we should have put our science behind our immunization schedule and protected those most at risk.
It went into young people.
So it sounds like she's advocating for the Great Barrington Declaration, which everybody from Fauci and Collins and every person in mainstream news media called them crazy, called them fringe.
Fauci called them fringe.
And by the way, great, great job of sounding the alarm now.
It's 2025.
She's finally going to, you were in the White House when they did this policy.
Why didn't you scream then?
Hey, this should be just targeted towards senior citizens.
You shouldn't be putting this in children.
Why didn't she say that then?
She's saying it now.
The perfect time, Jimmy.
Piers, Dracula, Scientology guy.
I want to tell you, I want to let the whole truth out now.
People in hospitals before it went into our elderly and nursing homes.
That is not following the science and the data.
So I am all over following the science and the data, but it shouldn't just be a statement.
It should be a reality.
And when we don't match what we do in public health to the science and the data, that is when we get into trouble.
And that's when we start to fracture trust with the American people.
So what she just said was during the corona pandemic, that the White House, the CDC, and the FDA and the WHO was not following the science.
She's saying that right there.
That's the coordinator of the coronavirus from the White House, from the coronavirus response.
Let me see.
Let me get her direct title so I don't mess it up.
She served as White House coronavirus response coordinator until March 2021.
And if you talk to people who are actually trying to get something done in the White House, she was also a big impediment to it.
But now she's coming out telling you the truth.
Isn't it funny how she bit her tongue up until February 2025?
Isn't that interesting that she bit her tongue all that long?
Yeah.
And just started wearing a scarf after she saw her neck on TV.
And so why, you know, I just, it's really great idea to keep your, bite your tongue until you're put in a Pierce Morgan four-way.
Look at the Dracula guy.
Does he not look like data from Star Trek?
Yes, he does.
Next generation.
He has yellow.
So, and why did they target, why did they give the vaccine to everybody?
Like she said, that was a mistake.
They should have did it targeted, which is exactly what Dr. Jay Bhattachara said in the Great Barrington Declaration, who is now the head of the NIH, Dr. Jay Bhattachara.
Is it because F you says the great Joscobro would take?
So now here is Dr. Paul Offutt.
He says Fauci knew that not everybody needed the COVID vaccine, but they all recommended it anyway, including him.
Can you look up what his official title is?
Well, he's not the guy that resigned.
He's a leading guy.
No, he's no, he did not resign.
Oh, okay.
So here's, listen to what he said.
Why?
So there's the coronavirus response coordinator under Joe Biden and Trump saying that it was, we didn't follow the science.
She's saying that.
We didn't follow the science.
And now people don't have, because vaccine hesitancy doubled after coronavirus.
Doubled.
And she's saying, well, it's because we didn't follow the science and we gave it to, we should have targeted it towards the elderly and people with comorbidities.
But instead, we gave it to everybody.
And so we're going to, why did they do that?
Here's Paul Offutt to tell you that Dr. Fauci told him.
Watch.
I saw Dr. Fauci at a meeting maybe a year ago or so because I was already getting out there saying I think we should target high-risk groups, where I was getting a lot of pushback from public health people who felt that I had gotten off the bus.
Because see, that was the whole feeling in this.
You know, you're either.
So watch what he said.
On the bus or off the bus.
So you're either on the bus or so if you're on the bus, that means you go along with everything Tony Fauci says.
Yeah.
And if you question it, you're off the bus.
And we will do to you what we did to Robert Malone.
Do you want that happening to you?
Do you want us to have smear pieces written to take you down immediately like we did to Jay Bhattacharia, like we did to all the people at the Great Barrington Declaration, like we did to Robert Malone?
Like we did to who's the other guy, the heart, I can't think of his name.
Yeah, McCullough?
Like we did to those guys?
Like we did to Pierre Corey.
Like Jimmy.
So if you're off the bus, meaning you're going to question and push back on what they're doing because you know it's not scientific.
And he's saying, I was, he's claiming.
Hey, did you change your name to On It?
Yeah, it's not Paul.
Paul Onit?
Oh, in between.
So I've got, I said, Tony, am I wrong?
Am I wrong in making it?
He said, no, you're right.
We should target high-risk groups.
So he asks Anthony Fauci, am I wrong?
Should we target high-risk groups instead of giving it to everybody?
And Anthony Fauci said, no, you're not wrong, but we're still going to recommend the vaccine to everybody from babies to the 100-year-olds.
Why?
Listen to the reason why.
The problem is, many of you say that, it becomes a nuanced message.
And the nuance message is a garbled message.
If you really want to make sure those groups get vaccinated, then you recommend it for everybody.
And okay, so if we think that, we should say it.
Because my personal thinking on this is.
So he's saying that Anthony Fauci said, you're not wrong.
We shouldn't recommend it for everybody.
We should recommend it for targeted people who are over 65 with comorbidities.
But the minute you do that, according to Anthony Fauci, the message gets garbled.
So we don't want to garble our message.
So we want to go against the science, lie to people, and recommend it for everybody.
That's what he just said.
You see, Jimmy, it's like people are like dogs that you put their heads in a thing with the sandflies.
You just do it.
There's no room for nuance.
So that's what he's saying right now.
Hang on.
Nuance for vaccinating healthy 16-year-old boys.
That's not a good reason.
Let me back that up.
And okay, so if we think that, we should say it.
Because my personal thinking on this is if that's the reason we're vaccinating healthy 16-year-old boys, that's not a good reason.
So if the reason we're vaccinating healthy 16-year-old boys is because we really want the targeted group to take it, but we have to lie and make 16-year-old boys take it.
He's saying, if that's the reason, the reason is you're afraid it'll be a garbled message, even though they don't need it.
Yeah.
That's not a good reason to make 16-year-old boys get a vaccine.
He's saying that.
What is Paul Offutt's off the bus?
Yeah, now he's really off the bus.
Okay, Paul Offutt.
Hold on.
I just had it.
Where's the bus going?
Paul Offutt was an American pediatrician specializing in infectious diseases, vaccine immunology, and virology.
And he was an offit, he is a member of the Food and Drug Administration, vaccines and related biological products advisory committee.
There you go.
Okay.
Just have it open.
Say it openly.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I think people are smart enough to hear it.
So he's saying, don't lie.
Starting now.
Starting now.
So he didn't.
He didn't get off the bus until now.
So again, he's another one of these guys.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
All the people who questioned it, they were right.
And I'm going to say it now because it's obvious now to everybody that we were all lying and that we weren't following the science.
Yeah, he's a real Albert Schpeer.
You know, the good Nazi that said he was sorry.
And why?
And why is he smiling through this?
He can't stop.
They're all smiling.
So I'm going to play it for you without stop.
So this woman, this woman just got done saying the former coordinator for the White House COVID response under Trump and Joe Biden said that they should have targeted the vaccine just to people over 65 who had comorbidities and it was wrong.
We didn't follow the science.
That's the Joe Biden's coordinator for coronavirus response saying what are you going to do?
No body language.
And here's the guy from the FDA to tell you why they target they told 16-year-old boys and people and pregnant women to get that COVID vaccine.
Here's why.
I saw Dr. Fauci at a meeting maybe a year ago or so because I was already getting out there saying I think we should target high-risk groups, where I was getting a lot of pushback from public health people who felt that I had gotten off the bus.
Because see, that was the whole feeling in this.
You know, you're either on the bus or off the bus, and there was no in-between.
So I'd gotten.
I said, am I wrong?
Am I wrong in making it?
He said, no, you're right.
We should target high-risk groups.
The problem is, the minute you say that, it becomes a nuance message.
And the nuance message is a garbled message.
If you really want to make sure those groups get vaccinated, then you recommend it for everybody.
And okay, so if we think that, we should say it.
Because my personal thinking on this is then if that's the reason we're vaccinating healthy 16-year-old boys, that's not a good reason.
And just have the open.
That is Duper's delight.
That's why he say it openly.
That is why he can't stop smiling.
Because I think people are smart enough to hear it.
Wait, can we go back to the thing Fauci said that you then just went along with?
Yeah, you just went along with it.
Oh, looking back now, it's not that, hey, I'm still talking to idiots I know who they'll never even look at.
They'll tell you you cherry-pick this.
They'll never even look at it.
That's the damage these idiots did.
What a scumbag, man.
Turkey neck's not cool either.
So, so there you go.
There's the guy from the FDA saying Anthony Fauci was lying to you.
There's the woman from coordinator for Joe Biden's coronavirus response saying they were lying to you.
They were lying to you.
They weren't following the science.
That's what they're saying.
That's what Joe Biden's coordinator for coronavirus response is saying.
And the guy, the premier vaccine guy, vaccinologist from the FDA, that's what they're saying.
They're saying Tony Fauci decided to lie to you again.
This goes against the narrative that we were all fed, that everyone needed to get vaccinated to protect grandma.
Remember that?
People lost their jobs because of this lie.
Four years later, they're reluctantly admitting that young people were never the intended primary target for the jab and that it wasn't even designed to prevent infection.
How do I know it wasn't even designed to?
Because she said so.
Here's Joe Biden's coordinator for coronavirus response.
And this is from 2022.
And listen to what she says.
He asks, hey, was the government lying when they said that the vaccine would stop transmission and contraction?
Were they lying?
Or were they just wrong?
Here's what she says.
Wow.
When the government told us that the vaccinated couldn't transmit it, was that a lie?
So when the government told us that the vaccinated could not transmit COVID, was that a lie?
This is what Jim Jordan's asking.
Was that a lie or was that a guess?
Or is it the same answer?
I think it was hope that the vaccine would work in that way.
And that's why I think scientists and public health leaders always have to be at the table, being very clear what we know and what we do.
This is important for the country to know.
So when I asked the question, when the government told us that the vaccinated couldn't get it, and I asked you if it was a guess or a lie, you said you don't know.
You said you think it was hope.
So, what we do know is it wasn't the truth.
So, they were either guessing, lying, or hoping, and communicating that information to the citizens of this country.
So, they were hoping.
Boy, it wasn't, she didn't know.
Hoping, they certainly didn't seem that unsure when they were locking you down and mandating experimental medical treatments for you.
Right?
They didn't seem unsure or hoping.
But the good news is she got away with it scot-free.
Yeah.
So, did Anthony Fauci, so did Collins.
Nothing.
So, did that guy, Paul Offit.
They all got away with it.
They all lied to you and they all got away with it.
I'd smile too.
I'd treat myself to a little bit of duper's delight after pulling that off.
They all lied to you, and they all got away with it.
And don't you think someone should go to prison?
I think someone should go to prison for this.
They knew they were lying to you.
People got kicked out of college because they wouldn't take the mandated vaccine.
People lost their jobs because of it.
We locked down people.
41% of black-owned businesses shuttered.
70,000 healthcare workers in New York alone got fired.
And they always knew they were lying.
They always knew, they always knew they were lying, and no one's going to jail for it.
I don't think it's that ridiculous to think.
I think it actually makes sense that someone goes to jail for lying.
People, pregnant women were taking it.
Pregnant women.
Yeah, my sister put in her kids.
Hey, you know, what really gets me is the way they preyed upon my innate love and trust of consensus this way.
You know, being on the bus and off the bus.
We all want to be on the bus.
So when they said vaccinated people couldn't transmit the virus, it was a hope that they couldn't.
Not that they actually had any science.
Well, and you didn't believe enough.
Boy, this sounds like a faith healer, don't it?
Yes.
You must have not had enough faith.
Don't lose faith in science, Jimmy.
should only have more faith in science.
Here's the former CDC director, Robert Redfield, and he's going to tell you about all the ways Anthony Fauci lied about when he talked about herd immunity.
Watch this.
And I remember one story that Tony had told people that once we got to 30% immunity, we'd have herd immunity.
So first, Anthony Fauci said, once we got 30% of the people vaccinated and to immunity, we'd have herd immunity.
He said 30%.
That's where he started.
And then pandemic would be over.
And the pandemic would be over.
And then later he told people that it was 50%.
And then not much later, maybe a month or two later, he said 70%.
And I remember a reporter that was kind of with it said, Dr. Fauci, what scientific data came in between the last time when you said it was 50% and now that you said it's 70% that made you change your mind.
And I kid you not.
It's a matter of record.
Tony said, there is no new data, but when I told you 50%, I just didn't think you were ready to hear 70%.
And this is where I come back.
Public health leaders just have to tell the American public the truth.
Just tell them the truth and let them make the judge.
Don't try to package the information in a way that they will decide what you want them to decide.
And that's what happened here.
So now Anthony Fauci, we know for a fact, lied about masks.
He lied about who should be targeted with the vaccine.
Lied.
He got all the people around him to lie because you can't be off the bus because if you're off the bus, they'll smear you like they did to Dr. Robert Malone, Pierre Corey, Peter McCullough.
They'll smear you, get you fired, get your credentials revoked.
That's what they'll do to you.
So you don't want to be off the bus.
So they all lied.
Paul Offitt lied.
Deborah Bricks lied.
Tony Fauci lied.
They all lied.
And then everybody on TV.
And that's why.
And that's why all our friends are such morons still to this day.
Still calling Iver Mecton horsepace.
They're still doing that.
They haven't even followed the propaganda up to the date.
They're not even following the current NH recommended propaganda.
And now here he is, the former CDC director, saying Anthony Fauci lied over and over about herd immunity.
Lied.
And he said, they asked why he lied.
Well, you know, I just didn't think you guys were ready to hear the truth.
So I lied.
The health, that number one health guy, if you lie once, you've lost everyone's trust.
Now you have to go.
Because now we'll always question everything you say, which we were right to question.
Because he was lying.
And he blinded the message, would you say?
Yeah, he was lying.
Yeah.
Nuance is the problem, not outright lying.
Of course, that makes perfect sense.
That's scientific sounding, as a matter of fact.
There was a proactive decision that anything that suggested that vaccines didn't work would somehow maybe push people not to get vaccinated.
So therefore, we were going to oversell the vaccines.
The vaccines clearly were oversold.
They should have never been mandated.
People should have never lost their jobs.
The senator knows.
I feel that we really, I think the intent in making no liability for vaccines when they pass those laws was well intended, but it doesn't work.
These companies have to be able to be held liable for their products like any other company.
And hopefully Congress will change that so that these companies that make these vaccines that do have vaccine injury, people can get compensated for the injury they suffered, particularly in a situation which was so inappropriate where they were mandated to get this vaccine, even if their instincts were not to get the vaccine.
And so now everybody sounds like RFK Jr.
Isn't that amazing?
They all sound like RFK.
Jr. said that before.
We played him before saying this back when nobody said it, right?
Yeah.
Remember this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And here is Dr. Fauci being asked, why did you lie about herd immunity?
She doesn't even get it right that he first said 30%, then 50%.
They jump right to 70%.
Watch this.
In terms of coronavirus, you acknowledged to the New York Times that you've moved the goalpost in terms of what it would take to reach so-called herd immunity in the United States.
Here's what you said.
You said when poll said about, when poll said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75%.
Then when newer surveys said 60% or more would take it, I thought I can nudge this up a bit.
So I went to 80, 85.
And then you go on to say that it may be as high as 90%.
So my question is, why weren't you straight with the American people about this to begin with?
No, actually, Dana, I don't think it can be interpreted as being straight or not.
We have to realize that we have to be humble and realize what we don't know.
These are pure estimates.
And the calculations that I made, 70, 75%, it's a range.
The range is going to be somewhere between 70 and 85%.
The reason I first.
And so now he's pretending that it was always a guess.
And I started at 70, which he didn't.
He started at 30.
Then he went to 50 and asked why he went to 50.
He said, because I didn't think you could handle the truth.
So he's not admitting to lying on purpose again.
Look, it's all I get mad is because it was mandated anyway.
So you never had a choice.
So who cares what I said?
I started saying 70, 75.
I brought it up to 85.
That's not a big leap to go from 75 to 85.
No.
It was really based on calculations and pure extrapolations from measles.
Measles is about 98% effective vaccine.
The COVID-19 vaccine is about 94%, 95%.
When you get below 90%.
He's still saying that.
That the COVID vaccine is 94% effective.
I never got measles.
I had that vaccine.
I never got measles.
I got COVID right after the COVID vaccine.
So did everyone I knew.
And of the population vaccinated with measles, you start seeing a breakthrough against the herd immunity.
People starting to get infected, like we saw in the upper New York State and in New York City with the Orthodox Jewish group when we had measles outbreak.
So I made a calculation that COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, is not as nearly as transmissible as measles.
Measles is the most transmissible infection you can imagine.
So I would imagine that you would need something a little bit less than the 90%.
That's where I got to the 85.
But I think we all have to be honest and humble.
Nobody really knows for sure, but I think 70 to 85% for herd immunity for COVID-19 is a reasonable estimate.
And in fact, most of my epidemiology colleagues agree with me.
Yeah, of course.
Nothing is exact.
I guess my question was about polling.
It seemed in that quote to suggest that you were basing your recommendation on polling and what Poland could accept.
Is that not what you meant?
No, I mean, it's a bit of that.
I want to encourage the people of the United States and globally to get vaccinated because as many as we possibly get vaccinated will get closer to herd immunity.
So the bottom line is it's a guesstimate.
I gave a range and I use any discussion like we're having now, Dana, to encourage people to get to that goal of 70 to 85% of the people vaccinated.
That's where we really want to be.
Okay.
And just to put a button on it, no sugarcoating.
You're saying 75 to 80% is the goal in your view as of now based on what you know when it comes to herd immunity, not 90%.
Right.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Sugarcoat.
One more question.
When?
When does.
So you want to see him lying?
So here's those two people.
She was the coordinator for coronavirus response under Trump and Biden.
Here is Anthony Fauci.
Watch this.
You should care because if you get infected and you're not vaccinated, there is a chance, maybe a likelihood that you will be part of the dynamics of the continuation of the chain of transmission.
Namely, you will inadvertently or innocently transmit it to someone else who will then transmit it to someone else.
And I don't think anyone would intentionally want to be part of the transmission chain.
You want to be a dead end to the virus.
So when the virus gets to you, you stop it.
You don't allow it to use you as the stepping stone to the next person.
So those are the things that we ask people to consider.
Not only your own health, but your societal responsibility.
We only knew if those vaccines protected against severe disease and hospitalization.
We didn't study silent infection.
People were not tested without symptoms on those trials.
I don't know how it got translated that these vaccines would protect people from infection.
It was wrong then.
It is wrong now.
We could, it's potential that you can make a vaccine better than natural infection, but it's very hard to do.
Wait, Jimmy, will you just play what he said?
Instead of just saying you don't want to transmit the virus, which is what the thing was, right?
Did you hear how long he took to say that?
Yes.
You want to be part of the chain of the something of the roots?
Do your civic responsibility and of the dynamics.
It's unbelievable.
That guy is like mocking you while he talks to you.
Yes.
Yeah, I didn't say that, but I did say that.
I didn't say that.
But no one is saying that.
But definitely I am saying that.
But that's neither here nor there.
The point is that it is, did you say that?
I'm not saying that?
Did you say you said something based on polling?
It was a bit of that.
But we have to be humble.
It was mostly I worship the devil.
It was a bit of that.
A bit of polling?
How much is a bit?
But we have to be humble.
We don't know.
Yeah, but that you didn't say that.
You didn't say we don't know.
We just said it was a poll, but no polling was actually done.
We just made it up.
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