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March 4, 2021 - Jimmy Dore Show
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The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hey, hello, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
This is Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Oh, hello, Governor.
How are you?
I'm fine.
I wanted to talk to you and your listeners and address this whole elephant in the room, these accusations against me of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior.
Okay.
First of all, let me reiterate my apology.
I am truly sorry if my words or actions made anyone feel uncomfortable.
That was never my intention.
I joke around with people.
My staff, I try to keep an assured levity with jokes.
Like, hey, have you ever dated an older man?
Would you date an older man?
Classic jokes such as that one.
Classic jokes.
Classic.
This is clad.
You're doing crystal clear.
I respect women.
Yeah.
Who doesn't?
I mean, look at it.
I love women.
I always have.
I wish to be perpetually surrounded by women.
So it pains me to learn that some women have been put off by my behavior towards them.
But Jimmy, all of this has been misconstrued.
Misconstrued?
Misconstruct.
I never sexually harassed anyone.
I never put forth a genuine sexual advance.
Well, what about the young lady who claimed at a wedding you touched her bare back and then grabbed the sides of her head and asked her to kiss you?
Yes, I asked.
It's called consent.
Is that what we're getting in trouble for now?
Asking permission like we're supposed to?
You should have seen the shit I was trying to pull in the subject.
You know, I think grabbing the sides of her head while you asked is the problem, probably.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, let's get down to brass tax here.
I think the underlying issue here is that I am Italian American.
We are a passionate, expressive people.
La person.
We hug and kiss.
This is how we greet people.
I got it.
I see.
It's affection, but it is also respect for your fellow human being.
It is recognizing another's humanity, male or female.
You grab them, hug them, kiss them, grab their shoulders, rub their shoulders, look them up and down and say, hey, fascino.
Look at those fucking breasts.
Emotional people.
Emotional.
So, Governor, I know plenty of Italian Americans, and none of them treat other people like how you're describing.
Well, okay, then there are people who are probably ill norte from the northern part of Italy.
You gotta get far down into the boot to get to the real good gravy, if you know what I mean.
My God.
So if we're really being honest here, there is an element of...
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER So if we're really being honest here, there is an element of don't do it.
Anti-Italian discrimination or bias.
Please don't do this.
Why?
Why not?
It's the obvious play here.
Don't try and make yourself the victim.
Growing up a poor Italian boy in New York City, I was called every slur in the book.
Guinea, Dago, Wap, Grease Ball, Doc Bunny, Boot Bum, Noodle Snapper.
I came up with those last few myself.
That's how low my self-esteem was from all that bullying.
My God.
But as I grew up, I learned to be proud of my Italian heritage and identity.
Did you know that an Italian invented the telephone?
What does that have to do with you hitting grabbing women?
Wing, wing.
I, I, I'll go.
Okay, who's there?
3,000 years of history, art, and culture at your service.
Look, we're going to get through this.
Obviously, I need to change my behavior.
Times have changed.
Every woman under 40 acts like she's on fucking little house on the prairie now.
I don't get it, but that's just how it is.
There's nothing you can do about it, but I'm not resigning.
Oh, really?
Why not?
Because I'm still a fucking bull.
I'll do this little dance if I have to.
I'm smart.
But I'm not going to be pushed too far here.
Kirsten Gillibrand calls on me to resign.
Up your ass, KG.
She got Al Franken to resign.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly my point.
And 20 Al Franken balls could fit inside one of my balls.
Fucking stugots.
You hear me?
Loud and clear, pal.
All right.
Well, I gotta go.
I have to gaze wistfully at a large marble statue of a nude woman that's in my office.
Let's be honest.
The fact that we personify the concept of liberty as a female goddess has allowed us to get away with a lot of wild decorating choices.
Thanks for calling, Governor.
Forget about it.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting so good luck they can't afford momenting this book.
Watch and see as a jack dog comedian who speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head-on.
It's the chimtor show.
Joe Biden dropped Naritandon's nomination amid bipartisan opposition.
Wow.
First of all, if you look at that, she looks like someone just broke the news to her and she's already plotting revenge.
That's what it looks like.
Doesn't she have that look on her face like she's getting ready to plot revenge?
So this has got to be tough for the Justice Democrats because they were pushing hard for her.
Remember when Joe Manchin said he was going to vote against Naritandin?
And then the head of the Justice Democrats, this right here, she went on and watched what she said.
Yeah, and I mean, you know, there's public record of those tweets, but the reality is I think that Joe Manchin is the one being divisive right now.
We are in the middle of a public pandemic.
Joe Biden was just elected by a huge mandate for the American people.
We have to deliver as Democrats, and we need people in positions.
So did you hear?
We have to deliver as Demon.
Did you hear it?
Because she's a Justice Democrat, which, as we all know now, just means you're just a Democrat.
And so she's talking, we have to have Nera Tandon get approved to be the OMB director because we're Democrats.
We're all together on this.
That's awesome.
Here we go.
Power who are ready and prepared to go big in this moment and not leave anyone behind.
The mentality has got to be of the Democratic Party, especially, but any elected official that we have to move quickly to save as many lives as possible.
And I would also point out that he had no problem voting to confirm other appointments of clearly partisan members when it was the previous Republican administration.
There should be no, I think, opposition to some, you know, folks that are being proposed by the Biden administration who have, you know, clearly are ready to do their work, are ready to get the job done, and they feel are the best prepared to do it.
I mean, so that's got to be a tough.
It's got to be a tough, sad day over at the Justice Democrats headquarters, huh, Ron?
You think?
Yeah, I mean, I'm thrilled she was not confirmed.
And also, I was wrong.
I predicted she was going to be.
I'm surprised.
I did too.
I thought she would get it.
I thought she had it.
I thought she was going to get it.
I was, you know, pleasantly surprised, but nice.
It's nice to see Joe Manchin puts the kibosh on Nara Tandon, not the progressives.
Not the progressives.
By the way, it's like, it's so sad we're in a place where that's a win when a horrible person does something right, probably for the wrong reasons, but that's like, that's the best we got.
What was your reason to smile for like one millisecond?
Well, this horrible person didn't get this thing because this other horrible person did a right thing for the wrong reason.
That was the millisecond smile of the welcome to American politics.
Welcome to the over here.
It's got to be a tough day over at the Young Turks.
Jenk Uger to all progressives.
If Narutan is voted down, they're going to replace her with someone even more conservative.
Lesser of two evil OMBs.
We have to have the lesser of two evil OMBs, according to Jen.
It's never the time to fight ever for Jenk Uger.
Ever.
It's never the time.
Isn't that hilarious?
If it wasn't so long, lesser of two evil OMBs.
It's too long, but it's, I don't know.
It makes me laugh.
Jenk's so lesser of two evils that he'll just make up a greater evil.
Honest.
He said if they lose on her, they'll abandon anyone to the left of Attila the Hun.
Biden has a spy.
It turns out Attila the Hun's busy.
But I hope he gets over this.
Tough day, tough day over there.
And just for the record, out of the names, and I've only heard like the main two names: the one person from the Hillary Hillary camp and then someone from the Obama administration.
Neither one of them would be worse than her.
I mean, none of them are going to be great.
I mean, you know, obviously, but neither one of them would be worse than Naratandon.
So if there is someone worse out there that might get the gig, to my knowledge, that name has not been floated yet.
Just to remind you how bad Naritandon is, as a Clinton delegate on the DNC platform committee, she voted against a $15 minimum wage.
She voted against Medicare for all.
She voted against a ban on fracking.
She voted against acknowledging Palestinian humanity.
She voted for the TPP trade deal, and she voted for military action on Iran.
Yeah, the bar's on the floor, folks.
Really is.
Bomb Libya and take its oil.
Biden budget chief pick Naritandon agreed with Trump.
That's from the gray zone.
So here's Jamie Harrison.
He's the current DNC chair.
And he said, we should never be shocked at the hypocrisy and misogyny of D.C. Naratandon is smart, gifted, and most importantly, qualified.
And you're a misogynist if you're against her, Rod.
Naira, my grandma, often says when one door closes, others open.
She often adds, and the good Lord ain't done with you yet.
Wait for your door.
Well, her door came.
It was Jimmy Doer, and we exposed her as being a advocating for war crimes.
Jamie, of course, of course, that's the DNC chair advocating for the most corrupt.
That's amazing.
Awesome.
Hey, does your grandma say, does your, I know that's what your grandma says.
Your grandma says, the good Lord ain't done with you yet.
Find your door.
But does your grandma also say bomb Libya and take their oil?
Because that's what Naritandon says.
Did your grandmother also say, please defend warmongers in my name?
I bet your grandmother didn't say that, Jamie.
You know, Jimmy, my grandmother lived to be 101, rest in power, and she identified politically as an FDR Democrat.
And you know, the problem is back in her day, that was just called Democrat.
Yeah.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Hey, friend of the show, Ben Spielberg, said Naritandon.
He retweeted Jamie here as the current DNC chair.
Neritandon is a notoriously unethical employer and bully who physically assaulted and outed staff members, busted a union, targets early career social justice advocates for retribution.
Democratic praise for her is at least as hypocritical as Republican criticism.
Ben Spielberg laying it down.
That's well put.
Very well put.
Biden says Naritan will get another job in his administration.
Of course.
Oh.
Nobody likes her.
I don't give a shit.
That's never held me back before.
Wow.
Neritandon.
We won this time, but she will be back, Ron.
You don't like her?
That's never held me back before.
No one likes me.
I've been around for 40 plus years.
And I became president.
I'm also unlikable.
People used to think I was unelectable.
They just yell at people on the campaign trail.
It wasn't Trump that scared people into voting for me.
It was the fear of Bernie Sanders that scared people into voting for Joe Biden.
Oh, boy.
Anyway, thank you.
Again, I appreciate everyone.
There's an assault happening on where the working class, an actual assault by the ruling class, by Wall Street, the financial sector, which runs our government.
And it's playing out right in front of your eyes.
As Dylan Radigan said, as a matter of policy, they're closing down a third of our economy and that they are rapacious oligarchs, which is a term started on the show.
And now I see everybody else saying it, which I'm glad we have that influence.
So the next time you hear rapacious oligarch, ding.
Word of the day on the Jimmy Dore show.
But that is exactly what's happening.
There's an all-out.
So people don't, why aren't they giving COVID relief to people to workers?
Why didn't they give relief to people during the 2008 mortgage crisis?
Because they wanted to take your assets.
And that's why, because they wanna take your assets.
They wanna take your, I have an apartment.
They want to take the apartment building.
They don't care if your landlord goes broke.
They want to give it to the creditor.
Sounds cynical, right?
Does that sound too cynical to be true, Ron?
Well, is there another reason why they wouldn't be bailing people out?
No, I don't think that sounds too cynical.
I think that sounds pretty accurate.
I mean, I do have, you know, I'm still holding out hope for other things, but I think that's a very accurate description of what really is going on here and the cruelty of our system.
Just for funsies, though, do you think, do you think Dara Tandon's going to rage tweet for a while?
No, because she's going to get, just like she knows.
She's going to get something else.
She's going to get put right, but she's going to get put in the administration.
Yeah, no, yeah.
Her money is funny if she did.
Her ability to get corporate money and funnel it into the Democratic Party is too important to the Democratic Party to shaft her like this.
That's what this is.
Yeah, it's a celebrated quality.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi says she's the best, and Nair Tandon's pretty solid at it, too.
That's yeah, that's what counts.
Hey, renowned linguist and cognitive scientist Noam Chomsky is on the line.
Hello.
Hi, Jimmy.
Thank you for having me on your show again.
Noam, the world is facing catastrophic threats, the likes of which have never been experienced before at the age of 92.
What keeps you learning, teaching, and motivated during this great upheaval?
Just smoking out of a beautiful pipe, the best hash, nothing added to it, just ice and water.
Some people like to use butane and all sorts of bullshit to extract the best sticky, but I prefer it clean.
In other words, all you're getting are those beautiful, oily heads of the bud.
Yeah.
I'm Okay, but what do you tell young people who are disillusioned with the concept of constant activism?
I used to get a lot of bad read from a guy named Lester.
He had a seven-foot bong.
What?
In essence, it's a metaphor for why progressives must revitalize the labor movement.
Where are you at with dabbing nowadays?
Are you still in dabs or one?
Hey, that's pretty strong pot, Noam.
Jimmy, do you ever think about stuff?
Well, I mean, yeah, of course, but I would imagine a great writer and thinker like yourself would do it constantly.
I have written over 150 books on linguistics, history, and political thought, but I never enjoyed a single minute of it.
Why?
Because it took away from my high time.
Even your book, Manufacturing Consent?
No, that was totally written by weed.
And the book cover should have read by Noam Chomsky and Weed.
Now I won't write unless I'm properly zoned with my exotic playlist.
It consists of a psychedelic collection of Turkish jazz punk from the 1970s.
How do you prepare for a writing session?
Personally, I like to jump straight to a blunt, followed by a bong.
That's when you really start leveling up.
The secret is learning how to roll while you're driving with one knee.
I've seen people do that.
I've seen people do my old college roommate.
Anyway, hey, that sounds dangerous, Noam.
Under those conditions, it is necessary to have an automatic.
Noam, why don't you just roll your blunts before you get in your car?
Have you ever wondered hard, and I mean really hard, about what the deal is with airline food?
Well, I know a lot of comics who have.
I really thought I could come up with a new angle allowing for the abstract structures of a specific language as they may relate to structures in other languages.
But no matter what, you can't get around the simple fact that airline food is just bad.
It is bad.
During my post-grad days at Harvard, there were these two fellows named Fat Freddy Frietowski and Free Will and Franklin.
And they awoke my mind to the weed universe.
Noam, I really don't think this is a good look for you.
Remember a while ago when I told everybody that once Joe Biden is president, we can push him to the left.
Yes, I remember.
Well, I don't think that's going to happen.
That's not going to happen.
At least not in the foreseeable future.
What do you mean by foreseeable future?
Like before the sun explodes into a million beautiful colors.
That's not very helpful, Noam.
Speaking of the sun exploding, have you seen my lighter?
No, I haven't, Noam.
I haven't.
Help us.
Don't worry, Jimmy.
Weed will get you through times of no money.
Better than money will get you through times of no weed.
Yeah.
What's my advice?
Don't get burned later.
Guess what?
Remember, force the vote.
Remember, we did that thing called force to vote?
Yes.
It was for healthcare.
It's for Medicare for All.
And it was the Justice Democrats was asking them to do what they ran on, which was to withhold their vote from Nancy Pelosi so they got something for us for it.
And they didn't.
And it exposed a lot of people.
It exposed the intercept for running interference for politicians for doing act.
Ryan Graham doing access journalism, Jenk Uger for being his complete tool, clown.
Who else?
Justin Jackson had to spank Ryan Greer.
I mean, it was just a lot of people.
Of course, it exposed all the Justice Democrats and the people who defend them and run interference for them.
They all got exposed.
Now, Dave Dayon from the, what's that thing he writes for?
The Prospect, whatever, American Prospect.
He also formerly from the intercept, Dave Dayon.
He says, put the minimum wage on the floor.
Make anyone Opposed have to vote against a very popular policy that every voter understands.
Dave, I don't know.
Sounds childish and half-baked.
You should ask for more.
I don't know.
Why don't you ask for more and then less and then more things?
And then, no, you can't do it.
But have you tried being nicer?
You should try to have, first of all, this sounds like violence.
Dave Dayon, I'm going to say it, is committing violence against the Democrats.
And that is, and I'm, this is lateral violence.
And 4,000 people, over 4,000 people like this.
That's extra violence.
Every like is another stab with an adjective.
Dave Dayans, he's all for force to vote for a minimum wage.
Now, I googled, I'm not good at that, but I Googled Dave Day and hashtag force to vote.
I didn't see anything come up.
So I must have did it wrong.
I must have did it wrong.
I'm sure he wrote a lot of articles about hashtag force to vote and how we should force the.
I just couldn't find them because I'm not good at that.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm dumb.
So if anybody could find those articles he wrote on force to vote and send them to me, I'd love to read them because I'm sure he's for it because he's for it.
He understands that when you force the vote, anyone opposed to the vote, what you do is you make anyone who's opposed to it vote against a very popular policy that every voter understands.
So he gets it.
So if you guys could find the article he wrote about it and send it to me, I could.
I'm bad at that.
And by the way, gee, that sounds familiar.
Where have I heard that idea before, Jack Early says?
I wonder where.
You know what?
I bet we could even do a hashtag around this.
Hashtag force to vote, maybe.
Force the vote for 15.
You don't think hashtag put the minimum wage on the floor is catchy enough?
Hashtag put the minimum wage on the floor.
I like that.
That'd be a harder theme song.
Much harder.
Force the vote was pretty catchy.
So force the vote, but for the minimum wage?
No, it's not the same because he's not yelling it into a webcam.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
You Thank you.
Jimmy Dore was 100,000% correct a month ago when he was calling on our Congress to force the vote.
Hashtag force to vote, hashtag Jimmy Dore.
I just want to say, using caps is violence.
You know this.
And then that exclamation mark.
This is all violence.
It's like knifing someone.
It is like knifing someone.
Do you mean force the vote?
Are you okay after all that yelling at you?
Oh my gosh.
He tweeted it at you.
He tweeted it.
He's being yelled at.
And I'm being yelled at with the caps.
It hurts.
Honestly, that's not easy to take.
Go ahead, Ron.
Yeah, but no, I'm just saying that's why you shouldn't go on Twitter as much.
I don't.
Why I'm not.
Do you mean force the vote for 15 for hashtag for 15?
I guess you better reach out to movement leaders and start a committee.
Dave Dayan, you can't just tell people to force a vote on minimum wage on the floor.
Have you fucking started a committee?
Have you worked out to grassroots organizers first?
Have you called the DSA?
Have you coordinated with the Justice Democrats?
Do you have your boots on the ground?
Have you even formed a committee, Dave?
The fuck?
This is how I'm going to do the news for the rest of the next four years.
Mocking, laughing, like a king who won.
Like a king.
And I will pardon them and seize him.
Seize him.
I feel like when you're doing that, you need your yellow microphone.
Right, doesn't it?
Yes, I can.
You need to wave that yellow microphone.
Oh, there it is.
You didn't think you need to think I had it?
Oh, come on, Ronnie.
Maybe I got it.
Maybe let's go.
No, no, I know.
I know it.
I know it lives nearby.
Seize him.
There you go.
I love that.
I missed that.
They don't say that in movies anymore.
Seize him.
They would say that in all those movies with the Egypt kings and the things and the Ten Commandments.
Seize him.
All right.
But that's what I'm saying.
2021's a new year, man.
They might bring it back.
I hope so.
I don't get how Dave Dayon thinks he could do this before he reaches out to movement leaders and starts a committee.
I mean, that's just irresponsible.
He's fucking up the minimum wage.
Dave Dayon is fucking it up.
Jimmy, there are people that are working behind the scenes for a long time.
Long time on the minimum wage.
And then freaking Dave Dayan.
And you know what it's called, Jimmy?
What?
It's called strategy.
Strategy.
That's right.
Strategy, Dave.
Strategy involves not ever fighting for the thing you like.
Where's your strategy?
Looks like you want to fight for it.
*laughs* Thank you.
Thank you.
First 100 days, my advice is to put the minimum wage bill on the floor.
Get caught trying.
It might even work.
What the F, Dave?
What is he doing, Ron?
This post is divisive.
Man.
This is dividing the left, Dave.
Shagrin.
Did you learn nothing from Force the Vote, Dave?
Strategy.
All of a sudden, calling on elected officials to bring something most Americans want to the floor isn't controversial anymore.
What happened, Dave Day and what happened?
Why isn't that controversial anymore?
And what is your strategy?
What's your second step?
They didn't force the vote on Medicare for all.
They damn sure ain't doing this.
I want to listen to you, Angelic.
I want to listen to you, but please stop yelling.
This is violence.
Please stop yelling.
Regardless of the outcome, we need to document the January 6th attack for history.
It's worth taking the time to put people under oath on the record so the truth comes out.
Only with truth is reconciliation even possible.
What?
So force the vote does have merit.
Call witnesses now.
Medicare for all during a COVID pandemic.
Yes, so again, Jeffrey Venter's making the this is exactly what Force to vote would have done, put people on the record so the truth comes out.
Jeffrey Venters making that point.
And just to remember why force the vote is a good idea, here is Alexander Carville-Cortez to tell us why it's a good deal.
Well, there's a few reasons why you want to force the vote on something like Medicare for all or $15 minimum wage.
Sometimes it's to get members on the record so people can't make excuses later.
Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments, just like Dave Dane was alluding to.
It might just work.
Sometimes we vote for historical record to let future generations know that we did everything we could.
So that's why you do force the vote, and that's according to AOC.
But when she got a chance to do it, they didn't do it.
And now Dave Dane is committing violence against them by saying they should do it too.
And I hope he stops it.
Dave Dane has a problem with, obviously, with women and women of color.
And that's why he's doing that.
That is just fucking mean, in the words of Andrew Cuomo.
That is just mean.
That Dave Dayne would.
Why would Dave Dane do that to the Democrats?
That's fucking mean.
You know that this.
I'm just telling you, Dave, this is divisive.
This is divisive.
That's just mean.
Okay.
Any other anything else, Ron?
Well, I actually, I guess I'm mean to.
I like his idea, just like I liked Force the Vote.
I think we should all agree that whenever you should push politicians to do something they should do.
I think that's a good thing.
And you know, the other thing, too, when people keep like pontificating back and forth about strategy and about this and that.
Hey, Jimmy, you know how often the left has won in my lifetime?
In both our lifetimes?
Pretty much never.
Never.
Pretty much never.
So I don't know about you, but I'm open to trying different things.
I'm open to different and new ideas.
I'm open to, you know, trying to actually win for once.
Because I've never really experienced that in my lifetime.
The left really hasn't.
I mean, yeah, society has progressed some, and that's great, but politically, that hasn't really been represented.
And, you know, it's time to shift the status quo.
So to just like do all the same old things, I feel like it's fair to say, well, that's not really cutting it anymore because it hasn't cut it ever.
I'm with you, Ron.
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Hey, President Joe Biden's calling me.
Hello.
Help, I'm present.
I can't get up.
Are you all right, Mr. President?
Hey, you guys get your $1,400 yet?
No, you said we get $2,000 on day one.
Remember that, Joe?
I'll get it for your soapbox, Jack.
I sent you $1,200 a month ago.
The checks in the mail.
You should have gotten your $600 by now.
What are you guys planning on doing with that $400?
Burning a hole in your pockets.
Nobody's gotten any checks yet, Joe.
I sent it out to you by overnight delivery.
You should have gotten them last week, fat.
By FedEx?
Close by F-15s.
I don't get it, Joe.
Okay, let me circle back and unbag it for you.
Yeah.
I sent you something better than cash.
I sent you protection.
I bombed Syria, so you didn't have to.
Enough said, end of subject, and you're fat.
Why aren't you sanctioning Mohammed bin Salman for killing Jamal Khashoggi?
I'm not falling for that malarkey.
Journalisms get killed all the time.
It's in their job descriptions.
The four W's of journalism.
Who?
What?
Why?
What?
Where do you get murdered?
You could seize his assets.
That would be disrespectful to his religion and murderous despots.
Look, don't bother me.
I know all about the great prophets of Malholland Drive.
Once took my Corvette there and went flat out.
Sweet.
The Prophet Muhammad, not prophets of Malholland Drive.
Will you stop?
What happened to Kamala Kashugi was a tragic accident?
A lot of guys get dismembered trying to get marriage documents.
Don't tell me you've never been in love.
What are your thoughts on Darren Tannon withdrawing her nomination, Joe?
No sweat off my back, Jack.
Her in the cabinet.
Yeah.
What's his name?
My chief of staff said that.
You mean Ron Clain?
No, I'm talking about the guy who's a Fannie Mae lobbyist.
Yeah, Ron Clain.
No, this guy's an executive at a bunch of venture capital firms.
I think.
Yeah, yeah, Ron Clain.
No, not Ron Clain.
I'm talking about the guy who used to be my chief of staff under Obama.
He called Elaine Kagan a progressive.
Ron Clain.
No, no.
Kevin Spacey played him in the movie Recount.
Ron Clain, idiot.
He's not an idiot.
I think his name is Ron Clain.
Have you heard of him?
Hey, why won't you fight your guts out to raise the minimum wage and extend Medicare for all, Joe?
Because I respect the history of the Senate, asshole.
Yeah.
Will you straighten up and play right?
What is wrong with you, nutcases, talking about this and that?
While we're up here doing all the work, don't you know there are processes you must follow?
Like what?
Procedures, man.
Don't give me that.
Procedure is the process and the processes of the procedure.
Yeah.
Procedure is part of the process, and Each procedure has its own process.
Get with it.
That sounds unduly complicated, Joe.
You can't mess with the system.
You got your procedure, part of the process, and the process, part of the system.
And I'm leaving out the most important element of the procedural process system.
Respect.
Respect?
Respect, you idiot.
Respect the system.
System means order.
Order means respect.
Respect the COVID.
Without COVID, I wouldn't be president.
Yeah.
If you don't like your $1,400 check, you ain't poor.
So stop your pansy-ass whining, you sissies, and enjoy the next four years of the Joe Biden presidency.
Yeah.
Because I'm about to take a long nap.
Keep faith there.
The Democrats are left scrambling.
This is from USA Today Today.
It said actually yesterday, USA Today, today, yesterday, today.
At Today, Mike, USA Today, today, Democrats left scrambling on a $15 minimum wage now that it appears left out of the COVID stimulus bill.
I am shocked.
I am shaggin.
You are kidding me.
It's the first time for everything.
Oh.
Maybe they'll finally get the $15 through when it's only worth about $6.
Now that's strategy.
That's the strategy.
That's strategy, Ron.
Okay, here we go.
So here's how they did it.
They decided to say that the parliamentarian makes the rules and has more power than the people who got elected.
That's what they're trying to do.
So they say the parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough, she ruled last week that a provision setting the federal minimum wage at $15 an hour would not be eligible under the special budget rule Democrats are using to avoid a filibuster while passing their code order virus.
So, you know, this happened to the Republicans once.
The parliamentarians said, oh, you can't put that in a bill that's not, and they said, oh, guess what?
You're fired.
And they fired the parliamentarian, hired another one, and turned one, the new one was okay with what they wanted to do because that's how power works.
So what this tells you, that what this tells, first of all, that's good that an unelected person who doesn't need to be listened to has this much power.
It's almost, Ron, now, Ron, I don't know.
It's almost like the Democrats are using this as an excuse.
Yeah, almost like it.
Like, it's almost like they were running through the halls, like, what can we, there's got to be something, right?
Do we have shit?
What about, what about the, have we talked to the parliamentarium?
We could probably sell that.
It's not, it goes against the rules somehow.
Okay, we're going to, we're going to ride with that.
We got that.
Parliamentarian.
So that's rolling.
So the Democrats are not even going to give you a hike in the minimum wage.
Not only are they not giving you actual relief from COVID, they're not talking about a $2,000 monthly check.
They're talking about a one-time $1,400 check.
The rest of the world is getting monthly checks.
The rest of the world.
This is the only country doing this like this.
They are crushing the workers.
So what they are doing is, again, this is an assault on the working class.
That's what this is.
This is a full-out, flat-out assault by the oligarchs and the financial system on the working class.
That's what's happening.
And for them to be dicking around like this, acting like this is what is happening.
There's a massive upward transfer of wealth.
And so I kept asking Dylan Radigan, who are going to get back on the show soon to talk about this.
Why won't they give people COVID relief when the rest of the world is?
And no one has an answer to that.
Well, I have a theory.
My theory is like what everybody's been talking about.
They gave all the money, the $5 trillion, to the richest oligarchs.
They have the money.
And who gets the money first is important.
And so now they want to buy shit at fire sales.
Every billionaire in this country's got his eye on something they want to buy.
Meaning, like, oh, wait till all the restaurants fail and I'll get them.
So that's what they're doing.
They don't give a fuck that workers are being crushed.
They want them not to be able to pay their rent.
So their landlords go bankrupt.
And then guess who gets that property?
The creditors.
So when you have an act of God like this, a pandemic that makes you shut down, your economy gets wiped out, you're supposed to relieve people's debts.
You're supposed to have debt forgiveness.
They're not doing that and they're not giving people relief.
So they're not only screwing the workers and the rent and mortgage payers, but the mortgage holders for the creditors.
And who is the creditors fucking the financial system?
Just like they did to people when Wall Street went belly up during the mortgage crisis.
They took people's houses away and gave them to the banks.
They're going to do it again.
So there's an assault happening right now on the working class.
An all-out assault is happening.
No one's calling it that.
No one's talking about it like that.
That's what's happening.
So we're going to get Dylan Radigan on.
We'll get Max Kaiser on, I think, pretty soon, too, to see what he says about this.
And Max and I, of course, haven't seen eye to eye on a lot of things, but I like Max.
I think he's got a lot to say about what's happening.
But that's my assessment.
And we'll see.
We'll see if I'm, I mean, I think it's obvious, right, Ronald?
Would you disagree that there's an all-out assault on the working class right now?
No, I don't disagree with that assessment.
And bringing it back to the $15 an hour, I saw this tweeted out by the Gravelle Institute.
What are you saying to people where you're telling them that they are essential workers, which they are, and you're saying they don't deserve a wage to live on?
What kind of society is that?
Well, that's called a failed society.
We are a failed state.
I know I've been saying that for a while.
Other people are starting to say it.
But, well, let's get it.
Let's get through our sketch.
So Roots Action tweeted out.
The parliamentarian has no official power.
It's the vice president, meaning Kamala Harris.
As president of the Senate, she decides whether to overrule the parliamentarian.
This is entirely on Kamala Harris.
She can override the parliamentarian.
There would not be 60 votes to overrule.
So White House will not overrule the $15 minimum wage decision, despite progressives' pleas.
We'd rather listen to an unelected person with no actual power than to the poor's.
So does everyone see what's going on?
Everyone sees what's going on.
Vote for me.
The checks will go out.
Vote for me.
We're going to get you that $15.
I mean, they ran on this $15 minimum wage.
And now they're sticking it.
And who's the liar?
But Trump is still the biggest liar in the world.
He's still the most corrupt.
So now the norms are back, Ron.
Now this is the norms.
You lie to people during the campaign, and then you totally do the opposite when you get elected.
That's the norms.
Remember, they say Trump was breaking all the norms.
Well, now we got a guy who ignore me, and this is the norm.
Get ready for the norms.
And how about, gee, so an unelected person whose job it is to interpret the rules, they decided, oh, this goes against the rules.
So that's why we're not getting a wage increase the bulk majority of Americans want.
And who can do something about it?
Well, the vice president, who, by the way, was also so grossly unpopular, she could barely get any leverage even in her own state, who now has this position of power.
So holy shit, talk about democracy.
This is that tweet you're talking about from the Gravelle Institute.
By giving up on the $15 an hour minimum wage, Joe Biden is saying that there are workers who are essential, yet they don't deserve a living wage.
That is exactly right.
Sanders vows to force a vote on the $15 minimum wage.
Huh?
How's he going to force that vote?
Well, here's what I said.
First of all, this is violence, Bernie.
This is violence.
Why is Bernie pushing a popular policy when the party leadership are squashing it?
That's just divisive, Bernie.
Did he reach out to approved grassroots organizers and start a committee?
So, of course, no, he didn't do any of those things.
And I would like to know what is the leverage he's going to use to force this vote.
He could put a hold on the coronavirus relief.
Is he going to do that?
What is going to be his leverage, you think?
Well, let's look at this at the sketch.
Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders said he will force a vote on an amendment raising the federal minimum wage this week.
To the best of my knowledge, there will be a vote on the minimum wage and we'll see what happens, he said.
I intend to offer the bill that will raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, and we'll see how the vote goes.
If we fail in this legislation, I will be back.
We are going to keep going.
I was told that trying to force a vote on something is bad strategy before, but he's not, what is he, Ron, what is the leverage he's using to force a vote?
I don't, again, we should have got a parliamentarian on, someone who knows this thing, but it doesn't seem like Bernie's actually using any leverage to force a vote here.
And by the way, if they take that vote on the $15 minimum wage and extract it from the COVID relief bill, that's a pointless vote.
Here's what David Sirota says: the $15 minimum wage must be in the reconciliation bill, meaning that the coronavirus budget thing that's supposed to give relief.
Or it almost certainly isn't, is not going to happen.
The Biden White House knows this and is still somehow bullshitting everyone by pretending it may happen at some future undefined time.
It has to happen now, not later, now.
Okay.
And here we go back to force the vote.
Here's your leverage.
This is exactly what if six House Democrats commit to not voting for the COVID relief bill unless it has a minimum wage increase in it, Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer would have to add the minimum wage into the bill to pass it.
Or they would have to find GOP votes to pass it, which doesn't seem to be there.
So here they have another chance to do this.
They're not going to do it.
Isn't that funny, Ron, that they won't do that?
Well, here's one more.
He says, if all 50 in the Senate Democratic caucus voted to nuke the filibuster and pass the House bill, it would be on Biden's desk.
But some of them don't want to do that.
So again, this is all about the Democrats, the people you elected, the progressives, having power to flex, and they won't do it.
If just six House Democrats commit to not vote, this is the same thing we just went through.
And now people don't want to say force the vote.
They're saying put it on the floor or whatever.
You know, it's almost like Democrats don't want to get that $15 minimum wage, Ron.
It's almost like that.
So get this.
Even in a divided America, America agrees on raising the minimum wage.
By how?
By how much?
Well, 83% of Americans say this minimum wage of $7.25 is not enough.
What do the other 17% say?
The other 17% haven't had to worry about money since the 70s, Ron.
Okay.
All right.
Two-thirds of Americans favor raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.
That's from the Pew Research Center.
Those things are very, very popular across the country in Republicans and Democratic districts.
Said Pramila Jayapel referring to the $15 minimum wage and campaign finance reforms, among other progressive priorities.
And nobody is going to be interested in procedural reasons why we can't deliver.
And she's right, right, Ron?
Are progressive frustrations enough to sink the larger relief package, Biden's top legislative priority without the wage boost?
Ready?
Here we go.
So this is the question.
Are the Democrats going to do what David Sirota is saying?
Are they going to force them to put this shit in the bill or withhold their vote?
Are they going to do it?
That's the question.
Are they going to do it?
Are they going to do it?
JFL sounds like she wants to do it.
Are progressive, are they going to do it?
Well, Roe Connor says, nope, we're not going to do it.
He said, I'd have to vote for it because I don't, in good conscience, I can't deny people unemployment.
So it's the same thing they did with that first COVID Relief, the CARES Act.
They're giving you crumbs.
And so people who don't want it, RoConna actually doesn't want to challenge the establishment right now.
He didn't do it on force to vote.
He's not forcing a vote on minimum wage.
He didn't force a vote on Medicare for all.
He's finding a reason not to do it.
And the reason is that bullshit reason they gave in CARES Act was, oh, we need the unemployment money.
Well, why can't you get fucking both?
All you have to do is withhold your vote and you get it.
Again, thank you for making me look like a fucking genius.
They can't help themselves.
They can't help them.
I have to go along with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the establishment.
That's what Rokan is saying.
I have to keep doing it.
I did it in the CARES Act.
I'm doing it now.
I did it with force the vote when I voted for Nancy Pelosi.
I'm doing it again.
I'm never ever actually going to fucking do anything.
That's what Rokan is saying.
Now, if Rokana disagrees with me, he's welcome to come back on that show and try to defend this bullshit again, like he did last time.
The exact thing he did exact time.
Exactly what they're doing is they're hiding behind bullshit.
And that's what Rocan is doing.
That's what they're all doing.
They're all doing it.
I'm not making this up.
They're doing it right in plain fucking sight.
Asked whether she'd make the minimum wage an ultimatum for her final support, Congresswoman Pramila Jayapol was careful to say her vote would be based on the bill as a whole, not just that one.
Like it's a tiny thing.
Just that tiny thing of getting our minimum wage caught up to present day, which by the way, it should be $24 an hour.
So what are you going to hold your vote for?
What are you going to do that for, Representative Jayapal and RoConna?
What are you going to?
Nothing.
Absolutely fucking nothing, Ron.
They're going to withhold their vote for nothing.
They're going to use their leverage zero.
They're never, ever, ever going to flex their leverage and get you anything.
That's what they're saying.
Thank you for making me look like a genius.
And for continuing to make your defenders look like chumps.
The Justice Democrats defenders look like such fucking idiots.
And I don't have to do anything.
I just have to sit here and laugh.
Chumps.
Every last fucking one of them.
Chumps.
Like most other progressives, Jaya Paul is stressing the fact that she still sees the Biden White House as a good faith ally.
And here comes friend of the show, David Sirota, to explain to everybody, and especially Representative Jayapal and Rokana, that the reason Joe Biden is only negotiating with Joe Manchin to make the stimulus bill worse is because there are not six House Democrats willing to do what Joe Manchin is doing and effectively promise to vote down the bill if their demands are not met.
If six House Dems pledge to vote against any COVID relief bill that didn't include a minimum wage, the entire dynamic would change.
The entire city of Washington, D.C. would freak out and the entire White House would have to use all its power to add a minimum wage into the bill.
Why is he being so divisive, Ron?
Why?
That is violence.
Why is he, does he have a problem with women of color?
Does David Sirota have a problem with women and women of color?
Because that's what it sounds like.
Well, you know, I've gotten to the point where I try to correct myself whenever I say things.
And I've said this in the past.
I think we all have, where I say things like, oh, the Democratic Party is so incompetent.
The Democratic Party is so incompetent.
No, they're competent.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, they are, I mean, I think it's time that people really stop sugarcoating the fact that they are actually a right-wing party.
They are a genuine right-wing party.
And yeah, the majority of the establishment would rather not have living wages, which, by the way, 15, the fight for 15 is basically symbolic at this point because when they started, $15 an hour was a living wage.
It's not a living wage anymore.
So even just getting there is largely symbolic at this point.
And we can't even get there, which is absolutely remarkable in so many ways.
So I don't call them incompetent anymore.
I'm like, no, they're a right-wing party.
In any other similar industrialized country, they would be the furthest right option you got.
So, you know, if there's some individuals there that are for living wages, that's great.
But if all you're going to do is tweet nice, nothing's changing.
They're to the right of the most right-wing governments in Europe.
I mean, Joe Biden and the Democrats and they're to the right of them.
There's no other right-wing government that is not giving their people COVID relief if they shut their business down.
No other government, no right-wing government, and no other right-wing government is denying people health care.
They don't, they give them all Medicare.
They give them all fucking relief when they hold their benefit.
We're not doing that in the United States.
The Democrats won't even give them a $15 minimum wage.
They won't do anything.
I was having a conversation earlier today with someone from the UK, and he was saying, look, the Tories had to do things they'd rather not do.
They're really off.
And I'm like, look, I don't disagree that the Tories are awful.
And I get that they're doing things they'd rather not do.
But here's the thing.
Here in the United States, our Republicans and Democrats didn't even do that much.
They didn't even do the things they'd rather not do.
They didn't even go that far.
Well, here's what Glenn Greenwald said.
He says, Joe Manchin knows how to use his leverage and power and is comfortable doing so.
The Justice Democrats know how to use their leverage and power too.
RoConna knows how to use his leverage and power too.
They just don't have the backspone to do it.
They don't.
They're all talk.
And again, if I'm wrong about this, RoConna, you're welcome to come out and challenge the veracity of this statement that everyone sees to be transparently true.
Again, I don't know how long you guys think you're going to keep bullshitting.
You bullshitted people about the unemployment for the CARES Act.
You bullshitted people about force to vote, and now you're still fucking non-stop, top of your lungs bullshitting.
And I see through it.
Rod sees through it.
Every fucking buddy who's conscious sees through it.
David Sirota sees through it.
I'm pretty sure Jenk Uger even sees through it, even though he's pretending not to.
But Glenn Greenwald gets it right.
Manchin knows how to use his leverage and power and is comfortable doing so.
That's not true of many people in Congress who wield similar leverage as he does.
It takes courage to walk away if you don't get what you want and people know if you have it or not, which determines power.
And everyone knows that the Justice Democrats aren't going.
They're nutless wonders.
If you're in Congress and constantly make demands and never have them fulfilled, but just march in line like good soldiers anyway, why would any rational, why would anyone rational ever take you seriously?
Those who never show they're willing to use their leverage will be ignored for good reason.
Nancy Pelosi said when asked about the progressives in the Congress, the squad, she said, oh, that's just like a handful of people, four or five people.
Well, that's all it takes, six people to derail any legislation right now, and they won't do it.
The dynamic above applies equally to activists and voters.
People who are always too scared to walk away from a negotiation are people who never get anything.
That's why I say if you're not like, I agree with Lawrence O'Donnell of all people, who said if you aren't willing to withhold your vote for the Democratic Party, they'll just ignore you.
So I'm withholding my vote from the Democratic Party.
I'm doing what Lawrence O'Donnell said is the only way you can influence them.
And that's what Glenn is telling us too.
If you're a voter or an activist and you're not willing to walk away from the Democratic Party, then you have no power.
And that's why the left has no power in the United States.
Zero, nothing.
And when someone like me does try to stand up and get us to use our power, they all attack the fucking messenger because we're a bunch of adult children of alcoholics in the United States.
But everybody, most a lot of People saw through that.
And those people who defended the squad and defended in action, like the young Turks, are taking a fucking hit for it.
Thank God.
Thank God.
So he says the dynamic of people who are always too scared to walk away from negotiation are people who never get anything.
If you're going to be a good, compliant party soldier, even when you're ignored, then you'll be ignored.
It's universal.
That's exactly correct.
If you can't pass a policy that has 67% support when you have full control of Congress, what the hell is the point of electing you?
The answer is there is no point.
And that's what I've been telling people.
What is the point of voting for people who don't take corporate money if they just do the bidding of the people who do?
The answer is there isn't one.
When Norman Solomon said, what's the point of electing the progressives to Congress if they're going to vote with the surveillance state anyway?
There isn't a point.
I don't know how long it's going to take for my Hillary voting friends to realize this.
But nothing is going to change.
Nothing.
Hello, this is Jimmy.
Okay, boomer.
What?
Who is this?
It's Vince Vaughan.
Oh, hi, Vince.
Okay, boomer.
Why do you keep saying that?
Also, I'm not a boomer.
I'm Gen X. Are you sure about that?
I think you might be pushing that boundary a little bit.
No, I'm not a baby boomer.
What is this?
The younger generations have declared war on us.
Haven't you heard?
Millennials are saying okay, boomer to anyone older than them that they disagree with.
Okay.
Yeah, well, okay, yeah.
Well, I'm not going to take this bullshit lying down from these entitled punks.
I'm going to appropriate their little snarky shithead thing and use it against them.
And as part of my two-pronged strategy to deal with this situation, I am also going to use it frivolously and meaninglessly so that it eventually loses all meaning.
That's how we do it, baby.
Wow, you seem to be pretty worked up about this.
These generation wars are getting me riled up, J.D. Power and Associates.
Politicals and their goddamn participation trophies made out of avocado toast are ruining this country, Jimmy.
Ruining it.
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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