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	Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	Hi, this is Jimmy.
	Who is this?
	Vince Vaughn, baby.
	Oh, hey, Vince.
	How are you, buddy?
	Good, Jims.
	But more importantly, I want to keep it civil.
	You hear me?
	Civil discourse.
	Okay.
	That's the problem with this goddamn country.
	Liberals have forgotten how to be fucking civil with people they don't agree with.
	How so, Vince?
	Well, just look at what's going on.
	Now, you saw this.
	Scott Pruitt, a perfect southern gentleman and a scholar, I assume, was confronted on camera by some angry mom lady holding her dumb kid as leverage.
	Come on.
	Saying that he should resign for the EPA.
	How dare she?
	How dare she?
	Why can't our civil servants simply eat in peace?
	Yeah, well, Vince, you know, she's outrageous.
	This principle man, this tribune of the American people, can't enjoy a fine meal without some Michelle Pfeiffer from Scarface Lady making a scene at a restaurant.
	Vince, I think these calls for civility that you are echoing are foolish and misguided.
	Oh, yeah, fuck you.
	Okay, well, that's not very civil, is it, Vince?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	You're an enemy of America.
	You don't count.
	Plus, we're both Chicago guys.
	We can talk that way to each other.
	Aside from that, Scott Pruitt is essentially dismantling the EPA, removing almost all protection of our compromise ecosystem at the behest of greedy corporations who don't care about the planet.
	That's pretty uncivil, isn't it?
	Oh, okay.
	Let me guess.
	You're one of these global warming guys, huh?
	Yeah.
	Well, let me tell you something, Coach.
	The Earth is a rigid bitch who can't be fucked with.
	Science has proven this again and again.
	We couldn't change her if we tried, Jimmy Doer.
	Believe me, I've dated women like the Earth.
	Okay.
	Besides, I don't notice it getting warmer, do you?
	Yes, I do, actually.
	Well, turn up the AC.
	I don't want to tell you.
	So we are supposed to be civil to Trump's goons while they are literally ruining our country.
	But meanwhile, Trump can call the press the enemy of the people and call for violence against the people who disrupt his rallies.
	Yeah, fuck them.
	Curb stop them.
	They're enemies of the people.
	That's so exhilarating to think and say, I feel really alive right now, Jimmy Door.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Why haven't people done this before?
	I think they have, actually.
	Anyway, you know me.
	I speak truth to power.
	I do it on my show.
	But I assure you, if I had the chance to do it in real life to one of these ghouls, I certainly would do so.
	Well, you're not.
	You're not any better than the rest of them or anybody else.
	No, I'm not.
	How dare you, Jimmy Door?
	Let me tell you something, Pally.
	The right is no longer going to be bullied by people who say that they don't like what Donald Trump is doing.
	We're not going to put up with it anymore.
	We're not.
	Why, just last week, I started a barfire with a guy who said that he thought Trump was a liar.
	Can you believe that?
	A liar?
	President of this great country?
	My friends had to stop me from stopping his head in.
	Jesus.
	Yeah, we're not going to put up with it anymore.
	We're going to demand civility or there will be blood in the streets.
	You don't like Trump?
	Well, don't say words about it unless you want parts of your body not working anymore.
	I'll do it myself.
	I'll help you find the cost of freedom.
	Crosby's still snatching young.
	Vince, I really disagree with you here.
	Oh, yeah.
	Why don't you say that to my face?
	I'm going to go to bed now, okay?
	Enjoy your heatwaste.
	It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
	The show for the kind of people that are It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
	It's hard to talk about your TV.
	And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
	It's Jimmy Dore.
	Hi, everybody.
	Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
	I'm here with the miserable liberal.
	Hi, Jimmy.
	So get this.
	This is from Mediate.
	Ex-Clinton advisor Philip Rains.
	I have a hard time seeing how the Democrats could beat Trump in 2020.
	Oh, God.
	Of course you do.
	Because all you can think about, wow, we got to get a corporate debt.
	How can a corporate demo?
	This is the guy who thought Hillary Clinton was a good candidate.
	I mean, that's, of course, he thinks that.
	Hey, maybe if you put up someone that half the country doesn't hate already, maybe try that.
	Can you believe that?
	So there's an audio recording.
	You can win the primary.
	So there's an audio recording from Media here.
	I'll play it for you.
	Who could win the primary in the general election in the Democratic Party?
	I don't know.
	Obviously.
	I don't know.
	Nobody could be.
	The most beatable guy in the world.
	He's like, I'm dumbfounded.
	If Hillary couldn't do it, nobody could.
	I mean, come on.
	Here we go.
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	Is that because you don't see someone out there?
	No?
	I think there are people out there that would make great presidents.
	I just don't know how you get through both and then still be.
	I mean, the one thing that I've always, the one thing that Secretary Clinton has always said, whether it's about her or just in general, is, you know, a campaign is about between two people.
	And why that sounds obvious, right now, when people talk about Donald Trump, it's really Trump or not Trump.
	When it's Trump versus Booker or Trump versus Sanders or Trump, that's a very different dynamic.
	And I always think of it this way, that if the election were held tomorrow.
	Yeah, because one of those people would beat Trump.
	That's a totally different dynamic.
	Bernie Sanders.
	Yeah, that's a, Because a lot of people in independence, first of all, he fires up the base, which is what the Republicans have been doing for the last forever.
	And that's why they've been winning.
	They fire up their base.
	And that's why there wasn't a bigger blue wave.
	Trump went out and did rallies, fired up his base.
	And number two, Bernie Sanders fires up his base and appeals to independents and appeals.
	That's right.
	He even appeals to people on the right because they like that he's not bought.
	And by the way, his big issue is Medicare for all.
	Overwhelming majority of Americans are for that.
	So maybe if you ran a candidate who was for Medicare for all, you could beat Donald Trump because he ain't offering that.
	Again, none of this stuff goes into their head.
	I mean, you might as well just, you might as well just ask a guy, you know, playing with his dick walking down the freeway.
	I mean, they know more than this guy.
	This guy's, I don't know.
	I've been in politics.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea how you beat Trump.
	You have no idea how you beat Trump.
	Again, he doesn't have.
	Yeah, you can.
	You definitely can't try offering them anything.
	Don't try to actually be an attractive candidate.
	Yeah, you know, Bernie Sanders, that's a totally different.
	Yeah, it's a different dynamic because Bernie Sanders actually has a platform that is popular and that people will come out and vote for.
	Sticking a name with Trump win.
	And I have a hard time thinking of, you know, I think Tom Hanks would win.
	I think The Rock would win.
	Come on.
	So was he like joking or something or like, I think Tom Hanks would win.
	I think what is he doing?
	This is.
	I have a hard time seeing how a lot of the people who are running would win.
	Just as comparison.
	Really?
	You see it?
	You have a hard time seeing how Bernie Sanders.
	I see a hard time for the rest of them.
	I do.
	I see a hard time for Corey Booker, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris.
	Why?
	Because they don't excite their base, A, and they don't appeal to people on the other side of the aisle or independents because they're corporatists.
	That's why there's an anti-establishment fervor in the country.
	I just want to remind everybody that this is a guy who was an ex-Clinton advisor.
	And he has no idea about who could possibly win against Trump because Trump's policies are so popular, right?
	Or is it because the Democrats have no platform whatsoever?
	Exactly.
	And he's just throwing around personality.
	Well, Tom Hanks, what's his platform?
	Well, I just saw him in the Washington, the post, and the post.
	He was great.
	I loved the way he looked with gray hair.
	It's like, oh, I think the Rock could.
	Again, it's nothing about policy.
	Nothing about policy.
	Nothing about offering people something.
	Nothing about a platform.
	Nothing about programs to change people's lives.
	It's one big reality show.
	It's the king and queen of the prom.
	That's what this guy's doing.
	Well, he can't say anything about Medicare for all because as an ex-Clinton advisor, she said never to pass.
	I mean, if that's not a winning, do you see why Hillary Clinton lost?
	These are her advisors, completely clueless on how you beat Trump.
	The most.
	Well, was he one of the advisors that said not to go to certain cities?
	I'm sure it was his idea.
	I'm sure he had signed off on that was their strategy.
	So the Clinton campaign strategy was don't care about blue-collar workers.
	Turn your back on them.
	We're going to try to get Republicans to vote for us.
	That was their strategy.
	But go to Arizona.
	Maybe you'll be able to get some votes in Arizona, Tech.
	She was going to Texas and Arizona.
	She was going to get Republican votes.
	Screw the blue-collar.
	We're glad.
	And guess what?
	They didn't come out to vote for you.
	This is a great.
	This is a study of the emptiness of a loser's head.
	That they're not...
	He is a...
	He's a freak of nature.
	So talking about Trump.
	Trump is a freak of nature.
	He's not a freak of nature.
	You know what's a freak of nature?
	That you guys thought putting the most unpopular Democrat in the world who offers nothing to nobody, you had to cheat in the primary to win.
	So now Trump's a freak of, oh, it couldn't be that you guys suck.
	It's that Trump's a freak of nature.
	Oh, I mean, who could, you know, that's that whole thing.
	Who could have beat the freak of nature?
	Doesn't matter if he's dumb or not.
	Doesn't matter what I think.
	He is a bulldozer.
	So you're betting now.
	He is a bulldozer.
	I mean, we can't, you just can't beat Trump.
	Okay, there you go.
	So there you go.
	That's the insight into a top-paid advisor in the Democratic Party.
	That's his insight.
	Oh, I don't see how we can beat Trump.
	He's a bulldozer.
	What the F?
	Anyway, wow.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So the Democrats have control of the House.
	What's changed?
	You know, climate change is going to kill us.
	If we don't do something in 10 years, we really do need a real revolution.
	This is who the Democrats, this is who's running.
	I mean, you can see that our infrastructure is completely decrepit.
	You can see how water is being poisoned throughout the United States.
	There's no jobs program.
	There's no roads program.
	There's no subway program.
	There's no high-speed rail program.
	Where are the programs?
	Because all those programs are an investment in our infrastructure.
	And that investment, it's like trickling up.
	We pay people.
	They have an income.
	That income goes right back into the economy.
	It's a win for the United States, except neither party is a voice for the people.
	So, you know what he noticed?
	He didn't say, well, it depends on what the Democrats run on.
	Nope.
	He didn't say, well, it depends on what they run on against Trump.
	If they run on ending the wars, Medicare for all, free college, and a living wage, they'll crush Trump.
	That's not what, and he didn't say it.
	Because let me tell you, you know this.
	How many times are I going to say this?
	If the Democrats were in on ending the wars, Medicare for all, free college and a living wage, they would sweep back in the power.
	They just won't do it.
	Hi, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Hi, Jimmy.
	This is David Axelrod.
	How are you?
	Ha ha ha Philip Ha ha ha ha Nossa Well, I'm fine, Mr. Axelrod.
	How are you?
	I'm very well.
	Thank you for asking.
	To what do I owe this privilege?
	Well, I was wondering if I could use your online platform, you know, access to your fans to promote this project that we have going on right now.
	You mean the thing with Karl Rove?
	Exactly the thing with Karl Rove.
	got it.
	What is that again?
	Well, this may be indicative of that old adage that politics makes strange bedfellows.
	And I suppose that is true to us.
	I suppose that is true to a certain extent.
	But Carl and I really do have a lot in common.
	So we decided to join forces, as it were, and teach this masterclass in politics for the master class series.
	And we have been traveling around together doing speaking engagements and really cleaning up money-wise, I have to say.
	I see.
	I see.
	It would seem that the guy who got Bush elected and the guy who got Obama elected wouldn't have a whole lot in common.
	You would think that, yes, but the truth is that we do actually, you know, in 2008, we tried to run a very positive campaign with a very positive message, and that really resonated with younger voters and galvanized them into sort of a movement.
	When Carl Rove ran the Bush campaigns, he ran on a lot of fear and marginalizing LGBT people and resentment.
	And then older people came out in droves for Bush.
	And my point is those two strategies are really two sides of the same coin.
	Wow, that is incredibly cynical.
	What?
	I mean, they were both winning strategies.
	You don't have to agree with someone's political philosophy to respect their game, as it were, when it comes to what it takes to win an election in this crazy world of politics.
	Okay.
	I mean, both of us took advantage of our respective sides in a way.
	On our side, the Obama side, our advantage was that young people, first-time voters, don't know that a politician that they like is lying to them.
	Once people are a little longer the tooth, they know the candidates who are running for president will make promises that they can't or won't keep.
	But young people thought that Obama meant it when he said he was going to end all these wars.
	Which, of course, was not tethered to any kind of policy initiative or strategy that the Obama administration actually had.
	Right.
	But the Republican advantage on the other side is similar to that.
	Old people are really gullible.
	And the Republicans have all the old people.
	And they can be lied to and duped just like young, naive liberal voters.
	So the trick is figuring out how to weaponize the stupidity of your own base against your political opponent.
	So that's what this is?
	Just two political hacks talking about how to lie to people?
	Well, I mean, if that's the spin you want to put on it, fine, but that's not how we're thinking about this experience.
	We're talking with David Axelrod, former Obama advisor.
	David, so who is coming to these talks and taking the master class?
	Do you have any idea the types of people who are seeking your guidance?
	Well, you know that, Jimmy, it turns out there's a lot of far-right and alt-right type people.
	Really?
	Yes, because they have a very specific challenge, which is to try and make their political positions, be it white supremacy, whatever it is, to try and make them mainstream, mainline them, as we say.
	And it's a particularly challenging thing that a politician has to do.
	And honestly, it's a very fascinating case study from a political science perspective.
	And I like challenges.
	So you're helping Nazis.
	I mean, if you want to put that kind of spin on it, that's fine.
	But just know that that's not how Carl and I look at it.
	All we're doing is sharing our expertise with people who want to understand politics better, whether or not they want to use politics to affect a white ethno-state in the Pacific Northwest.
	That's not my concern or problem.
	But Nazis?
	We get nowhere as a country unless we're civil with each other.
	We must maintain civility.
	Okay, thanks for calling, David Axelrod.
	Okay, I'm going to go count my money.
	So here's the big news.
	I don't know if you know, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Take it off suicide watch right before his death.
	Nothing weird there.
	Nothing weird.
	That makes sense.
	So I wasn't going to talk about this, but I saw a lot of people.
	Now, at this show, we spent the last three years debunking the evidence-free red baiting conspiracy theory known as RussiaGate, right?
	And it got so bad, the coverage of it was so bad on YouTube and in the mainstream press that a former host at MSNBC, Crystal Ball, did a whole video where she likened MSNBC to InfoWars.
	So we debunked those conspiracy theories.
	But if you would like to go find crazy bullshit conspiracy theories, you should go to MSNBC because Joe Scarborough blames this on Russia.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Did you see this, Rod?
	Did I send this to you?
	Oh, yes.
	Tell Joe.
	Tell Joe not quick enough.
	Jimmy, I snuck into prison disguised as singing Telegram.
	Then I got in.
	Before you could say bushed, it was over.
	Then I got back on my meme jet, was back in California by 12.30.
	Then Stiff texted me and I said, yes, I come in for a stream.
	Her this year first.
	Good job, Joe.
	This is the natural conclusion to the three years of every time anything in Russia.
	So this is it.
	The guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men's lives ends up dead in his jail cell.
	How predictably Russian.
	I know.
	America doesn't do anything.
	What the?
	This is so...
	It didn't happen in a Russian jail.
	It happened in our jail.
	Right, did Putin sneak in?
	Like, this is how nuts your brain gets.
	People were giving him the business about, hey, did Russia kill that intern and found dead in your people?
	People were really giving it to him hard.
	Ken Norton or Ben Norton, Ken Norton.
	Yeah, they were really giving it to him.
	Well, I like the people that defended him.
	Did you see some of the people that defended him?
	They were like, he wasn't saying that Russians did it.
	He was just saying that, or substitute Russian and just put anything else in there.
	And that's not like really wrong.
	Yeah.
	How Italian.
	Just put Italian.
	How Italian, how Mexican, how Chinese, whatever.
	How do you want to throw in there?
	How German.
	I think you could still rip.
	Can you still rip on the Germans for the Holocaust?
	I think people still do.
	I think people still rip on Germans.
	I think it's still okay to rip on.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Because people say stuff like, it started when who was that guy, Buchanan, Pat Buchanan, gave a speech.
	You're too young to know this, Ron.
	But he gave a speech at the 1992 Republican convention where he pronounced that there's a culture war.
	The joke going around was, yeah, I liked his speech in the original German.
	And then people were starting.
	I heard people apply that to Trump.
	They're doing that same joke.
	Oh, I liked it in the original German.
	So I think it's still okay to shit on German.
	I think it's still okay.
	I think that's, I mean, I see it's certainly the double standard there.
	Isn't that funny?
	I just realized that as we're doing this show, that it is okay to be Zen of to do that to Germans still.
	I guess, you know, you do a holocaust.
	It sticks.
	I got to tell you, it really sticks.
	But, you know, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan.
	All right.
	So here is, so there's Joe Scarborough.
	I mean, he hosts a news show, a news show for 15 hours a week on MSNBC.
	Do they do four hours now?
	I know they were three hours.
	Did they go to four?
	Morning, Joe.
	Morning, Joe.
	I thought it Was a two-hour a day thing, is it not?
	Remember the joke we used to do was that, yeah, that progressive news station that likes to kick off their broadcasting day with three hours of conservative talk.
	Yeah, however long the show is, it's too long.
	I know that much.
	Yeah.
	So that's the guy.
	That's not, again, that's not some guy in his garage on YouTube.
	This is the guy who's a host of a national television show on MSNBC owned by Comcast.
	The people who fire you for telling the truth about Russia Gate or a fiery.
	They won't even bring anyone on who has a counter counter narrative to that.
	That's how you know they're doing good news over at MSNBC.
	They're so much better than Fox and CNN.
	You know, MSNBC.
	They're doing such good journalism.
	They have no interest in doing journalism.
	None.
	They brought on no one.
	They brought on no one ever to counter this.
	So people were literally defending this.
	Yeah, I didn't see that.
	Like basically just saying, like, no, he's not making up some theory.
	He's just being xenophobic.
	Come on.
	It's a problem.
	He's fine.
	He's just saying we don't like Russians, right?
	Russians are jerks, right?
	Everything bad ever.
	Here's how MSNBC covered it recently, just now, a couple of minutes ago, about, so, you know, the questions are, how does this guy get let alone in his cell?
	And believe me, he didn't get left alone in his cell.
	If he was, that's what he, how this happened, he committed suicide.
	He didn't get left alone in his cell accidentally.
	That's for goddamn sure that that didn't happen.
	No, I was telling you, Jimmy, that it reminded me of the scene from The Godfather.
	Yes.
	When at the hospital, like, where are the police?
	Oh, there are no police here?
	How'd that happen?
	We're getting him out of here.
	Get him out of here.
	They're coming to kill him.
	In the event that Jeffrey Epstein actually did attach something around his own neck and hang himself.
	Hey, he's why was he taken off suicide?
	It wasn't an accident because he wasn't accidentally taken off suicide.
	That's the first question that makes absolutely like it makes no sense.
	Why was he taken off suicide?
	And why was he given instruments that he could hang himself with?
	Yeah.
	So this isn't an accident.
	I mean, just as a cursory look, not an accident.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Oh, yeah.
	And have we found out anything about what camera footage may or may not be available?
	Right.
	That's like, I mean, you know, I was scrolling for that, you know, an hour and a half ago before, you know, I was at a park and then I went home, showered, came here.
	But it's like, what footage may or may not exist.
	So here's what they say.
	Here's how they talked about it.
	Are we expecting any public statements from the people who ran this jail as to how on earth this person was alone, allegedly, and was able to either remove himself or be removed from the scope of justice, you know, by leaving this world?
	Is there going to be a public statement?
	Are you expecting anything today?
	There will be a public statement, I'm told.
	I don't think it's going to answer all the questions you have.
	I think it's probably going to be very basic in nature, given what we saw after the previous incident.
	They did not say much except to confirm that something had taken place.
	There's an incredible photo on the New York Post website right now that shows Epstein being wheeled in by paramedics this morning, and they're working hard to try to revive him as he's wheeled into the downtown hospital where he was pronounced dead about 7.39 this morning.
	Again, he was found around 6.30 this morning.
	We are told now from five sources he was alone in his cell and that suicide appears to be the leading cause here.
	But of course, as you're hearing, there will be an investigation.
	In the previous incident, there was less clarity in part because he shared a cell with a roommate.
	And the defense lawyer for that other inmate had said the two were getting along fine.
	No assault took place.
	And that Epstein apparently had tried to take his own life in that previous incident.
	How serious an attempt that was, there's a lot of debate and question about that, whether it was just a cry out for attention.
	Again, we are told from multiple sources he was having a very difficult time inside the MCC.
	He's an accused child sex offender.
	He is accustomed to the life of luxury with his mansions.
	And now he's sitting in the MCC, which is a very secure facility where drug dealers, terrorists, you name it, are held in that facility.
	He was put in a separate wing for high-risk inmates.
	First, he had a roommate.
	Then after that initial incident, he was moved to his own cell and for a time was on suicide watch.
	We only have one official, but it's a good one.
	One official telling us he was recently taken off suicide watch, but remained in an isolated cell.
	We're waiting to hear clarity on that detail from the Bureau of Prisons to see exactly when and if he was taken off Suicide Watch and what that meant for A, the items and clothing he had in his own cell.
	Because if you're on Suicide Watch, we're told there are no sheets, there are no blankets, that you are watched quite carefully.
	But of course, we also hear stories about people who are on Suicide Watch in an isolation, and they wind up using their pants or whatever minimal clothing they are provided.
	So the question is, how closely was he being watched?
	Is the expectation...
	The question is, how closely was it?
	The question was, he wasn't being watched.
	What do you mean, how do you think?
	And why is that?
	This entire segment that they just did on MSNBC could have been summed up in like two sentences.
	Like Joy, Joy Reed could have just been like, so the people that were there that might have something to answer to, are we going to hear from them?
	Do they owe us anything?
	And then that other dude could have said, we'll probably hear from them.
	It'll likely be bullshit.
	All right.
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	You know, I'm sitting here watching this and anything's possible.
	Is he really dead?
	Oh, is he even dead?
	I bet you every girl that accused him wants to go and see that dead body.
	Oh, he's not.
	They're going to give him like that new face, like in face-off, where he gets someone else's face, and then he goes and lives in Australia or something.
	And maybe you guys will see him.
	If you see a guy who looks like Nicholas Cage, but like he just had surgery and stitches.
	Wasn't that what Face Off was?
	They had switched faces.
	Yeah, and then they had like the longest fight scene ever where they both would have died like 12 times.
	Oh, yes.
	Good cinema, though.
	I like how people can like punch each other in the face.
	And first of all, no teeth out.
	Nobody barely gets like a cut.
	Like, that's not how fights work, guys.
	The faces split open.
	Anyway, so there, by the way, I just wanted to remind everybody that there was a comedian who predicted this.
	God damn, huh?
	Speaking of Jeffrey Epstein.
	You know, of course, Bill Clinton said he was only on the Lolita Express four times.
	Turns out he was actually on it 24 times.
	And Hillary Clinton is actually upset about it.
	She actually tweeted out just now.
	tweeted out that she feels really bad about jeffrey epstein committing suicide next tuesday Hey, you know, we no longer have an Amazon link because we're not doing that.
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	Boy, I was away last weekend for National Burrito Celebration Day.
	Gee, I wonder if Rick Perry let any messages on my antiquated answering machine.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	You can do it, Richard.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	Okay, time to show that jerk, Jimmy Dore.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	Hey, you asshole.
	Listen to this.
	Ornovate, don't regarlate.
	Darn it.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	Innovate, don't regulate.
	Darn.
	Hello, Jimmy Dore.
	Animate, don't register.
	Oh, gosh, darn it to heck.
	Alexa, erase message.
	Message machine, are you erasing?
	Siri, erase the message machine of Jimmy Dore.
	And what's the fastest route to the nearest Dairy Queen?
	No toll roads.
	Okey-dokey.
	Hello, phone machine thing.
	My name is Anarchy Secretary Rick Perry.
	So officially, my name is just Rick Perry and Archie Sucker Secretary.
	Hold on a sec.
	My name is just Rick Perry.
	Where's my birth certificate cake?
	Did I just say cake?
	Siri, tell Alexa to erase my last message, please.
	Thank you.
	Wow, I love modern technology.
	Greetings, Tom of MySpace.
	You are probably wondering how I've been able to survive so long in Donald Trump's administration when so many others have been forced out.
	The answer is quite geometry, my dear Watson.
	No one knows where my office is.
	I don't even know where my office is.
	Hey, shut up.
	Hey, Tom.
	I can no longer access my band pics.
	I need to pixelate our drummer's face because he never shows up for practice and he's tote the big a-hole.
	Oh, boy, that sounded real stupid.
	Alexa on sand.
	And what's the quickest way to the Museum of Lactose Intolerance?
	No tow roads, please.
	I ate it in Atl Burger last week.
	How does it compare to Woadaburger?
	My answer might surprise you, or will it?
	Let's watch.
	But first, here's an important message about restless leg syndrome.
	Stay tuned.
	Or will it?
	Hey, Tom of MySpace, please delete previous message.
	I don't want Texanians to know I ate it at a California burger restaurant, even though I bought two of them along with two French fries.
	Alexa, am I going to get cancer from all the golden brown french fries and coffee I consume?
	I'll take my answer off the air.
	Thank you.
	No tow roads.
	No to sale.
	I have a plan to stop Russia's grid attacks on our American grids.
	How might you ask?
	Is my plan?
	Simple.
	Innovate.
	Don't regulate.
	Oh, my God.
	I said it right.
	Monfuer, I can walk.
	Eat.
	You think RussiaGate couldn't get any dumber?
	Are you ready?
	Did you see this?
	Amy Klovichar defends her.
	She got in trouble because I guess she was throwing staplers and binders at people's heads.
	Did you read that?
	No.
	I mean, I saw this headline and then I just sort of rolled my eyes, but I didn't see what exactly people were upset about.
	People don't typically throw staplers and binders.
	She says, Amy Globichar defends her staff treatment, says toughness needed when dealing with Putin.
	Fucking Putin.
	That's why Steve-O wrote some jokes for this.
	It's hilarious.
	First of all, what I said was, you know, I've been outspoken in questioning the lack of evidence for Russia Gate, but this seems legit.
	Let me see.
	Let me get to Steve-O's jokes.
	I embezzled from my company because Putin might launch a cyber attack, and we have to be prepared for that.
	Steve-O.
	Let us know you play 3D chips.
	It's very good.
	I gave $500,000 to a crooked college consultant so he can bribe my daughter into USC because she needs that education to defend the country against Russia interference in the 2024 election.
	In reality, we need your daughter to help troll farm.
	So thank you for that.
	I love that.
	I bought a Centrist.
	I can't do this joke.
	I can't do that.
	No, I want to hear it.
	So that's hilarious.
	Amy, this is so now we've reached.
	Have we reached peak Russia Gate yet?
	Is this finally it?
	I mean, honestly, like a serious, no.
	Like, it's not going to.
	Hey, you are, it's going to keep getting more ridiculous.
	So Ron says, Jimmy, why are you so mean to your staff?
	Jimmy, why are you so mean to your staff?
	Dude, we're fighting fucking Russia.
	Dude, don't you understand?
	That's why, I mean, I love everybody, but I have to throw shit at them because Putin and things.
	Come on.
	Man, you guys, am I the only one who understands this?
	Ah, you know, even that question makes me so fucking angry.
	Wow, that's George Clooney on the line.
	I hope he doesn't call me Ranger and ask what's up.
	Hello.
	Hey, Ranger.
	What's up?
	Hi, George.
	Listen up.
	First time I met a mall, I took a picture of her, and she was smiling.
	Not said, right?
	That sounds romantic.
	I said to my buddy Ben Affleck, you know, I think I should ask her to marry me.
	And Ben said, I think that's a good idea, too.
	From that moment on, my life was changed because you never really know someone until you see them interact with a giraffe.
	You know, I once went to a petting zoo.
	Was there a giraffe?
	I don't think so.
	Come on, Jack.
	I'm talking about a giraffe here, not some alpaca bullshit.
	You and your Hollywood radical friends take part in during one of your weekend lovins.
	Why is an alpaca any less of an experience than a giraffe?
	Alpaca are bullshit.
	Giraffes are the real thing.
	Of course, an alpaca is going to come up to you.
	They're idiots.
	They let people shave them.
	Ever see someone shave a giraffe?
	No.
	I was just trying to relate to your experience.
	That's all.
	No worries, Jackson.
	My wife is so cool.
	She's like the coolest thing on the planet.
	She's cooler than McMurdo Station.
	That's a remote section of the Antarctic, commonly used for scientific studies and whatnot.
	It's on Ross Island near the Ross Ice Shelf.
	But you knew that.
	Are there giraffes there?
	Are there Juva?
	Nice one, pal.
	No giraffes down there.
	Too cold.
	But one time I saw a polar bear come up to a mall and stand on his hind legs and gesture for food.
	So I said to my buddy Paul McCartney, I said, Paul, I think I should ask her to marry me.
	You got to hang around with Paul McCartney?
	Paul and I went back to our modest lavish estate in Sunning on Thames, Berkshire.
	We had a jam session with holographic images of the dead beetles and Ringo.
	I read where your neighbors are, Jimmy Page and Teresa May.
	Is that true?
	Oh, God, really?
	They must be that old couple who keeps getting lost in my kale maze.
	Biggest outdoor kale maze in the world, by the way.
	Paul is a professional.
	I'm the amateur.
	She's like a gazelle at the top of their game.
	I say she's like a giraffe, but that'd be weird.
	Time for my anti-tan.
	That's where I have the damaging effects of the sun's rays removed from my skin through the application of more eels.
	More on that later, champ.
	Asta Lumbago.
	Right now with us, I'm very excited.
	We have Semma Hernandez is with us.
	Now, if you don't know who she is, she ran against Beto for the Democratic nomination against Ted Cruz.
	She lost, but she's a progressive activist, and she is the daughter of immigrants, the oldest of seven siblings and the first American-born child in her family.
	The sacrifices her parents and grandparents made are part of what fuels the reason she decided to run for U.S. Senate.
	Please welcome to the show.
	It's Semma Hernandez.
	Hey, Semma.
	Hey, Jimmy.
	Thanks for having me on your show.
	So, Semma, thank you so much for being here.
	And tell us, you ran against Beto Rourke.
	Tell me about your decision to run this time again and the kind of support you're getting.
	Well, the decision to run this time was made literally the day after the primary.
	So March 7th, I decided to run against John Cornyn.
	And it was just a matter of announcing the right time to do it and getting the support to run was pretty easy to get because we already had the infrastructure set in place and continued on the progressive message that we continued in 2018 and that we transferred that platform to what was already a really good platform as a co-chair for the Poor People's Campaign in Texas, continuing on that message of social, racial, economic, and environmental justice.
	Now, you have an opponent in the primary, Democratic primary?
	I do have several opponents, but one of them that the Democratic Party considers a status quo opponent is one that lost her congressional district here in the state of Texas.
	And she, like many other candidates who have a military background, are ones who continue to run on that military background, which is more intervention, more oil, and no platform, just platitudes.
	Her name is MJ Hager.
	And that's one who I know the media is getting behind because they're already pushing her as of two days ago.
	So my challenge is, again, to break through that narrative and continue to campaign on the progressive message that is unapologetically human and show the diversity of our campaign, our volunteers, our message, our platform, our intersectionality, and get to the debate stage and actually have a debate that was denied to us the first time around.
	Okay, so now you're the real deal progressive in Texas.
	And how do you break through, though?
	So how do you prove that a progressive can win in Texas?
	What's your pitch?
	Well, my pitch is, you know, showing the record that I have as an activist, as someone who is sitting in the Texas Railroad Commissioner's office and shutting down the building with other fellow revolutionaries and getting arrested, not just in Texas where big oil rules the state, but also at the Capitol with Reverend Barber and List Theo Harris and putting our lives on the line every single day, willing to not just give these empty platitudes, but actually put those words into action.
	And what I have been doing and what I'm going to continue to do is push for legislation and actually show it through action by mobilizing the people of Texas and across the country to occupy our elected officials' offices and demand them to force the vote to vote for us, not for their donors and not for their self-interests.
	Now, the reception from the Democratic Party the first time you ran, what was that like?
	It was a blackout.
	It was ignoring.
	It was flat out racist.
	And it was something that I will never forget.
	It was heart-wrenching.
	But getting to share that story with people that I've met who are part of the Democratic Party who are not at the leadership level and exposing it and telling them that there is live video of them telling me that or asking me if the drug, if the money that I put towards getting on the ballot was drug money.
	That was on live stream video when that happened.
	And showing that to them exposes the injustice that happens at the top level of our Democratic Party, but it's not reflective of what happens at the local Democratic parties and clubs that are here in the state of Texas.
	It's very different.
	And unfortunately, just like my voice was not heard and I was not taken seriously, a lot of the Democratic clubs here are not taken seriously, even though they are the ones that are laying down the foundation and groundwork for a lot of these candidates to win local office.
	Now, how does that make you feel about continuing to run inside the Democratic Party?
	If I back away and I choose not to run as a Democrat, it gives them the satisfaction of not allowing progressive people to run for office.
	It gives them back power that doesn't belong to them.
	And I want to see more progressives run for office, not just for federal or for state, senate, or president, but also for county, city council, school, school board, ISD.
	I want people to run.
	I want them to flood the party.
	Like, don't give them the satisfaction of them brushing us away and putting us down because that's exactly what they want.
	They want to disenfranchise us on so many levels.
	And when I say they, I don't just mean like the corporate Democratic establishment.
	I mean the political establishment itself.
	Yeah, it's obvious that that's happening.
	So they, Jay, Would you say that your treatment by the Democratic Party has been unfair?
	By the top officials, yes, it has been.
	It's been intentional.
	Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, who were meeting with other candidates behind closed doors to take on John Cornyn.
	I'm proud to say that I did not meet with them and they don't get to dictate how our campaign is run.
	It's not run by the corporate establishment.
	It's run by the people and volunteers that power this campaign.
	And that's something that I can stand by, unlike my opponent who has met with Chuck Schumer and has decided to run based on what they apparently talked about or not talked about.
	That was a decision that was made when they met.
	Did Bernie wait?
	Has Bernie weighed in on your candidacy either time when you ran against Beto or this time?
	No.
	And did you reach out to his campaign?
	They reached out to me.
	They reached out to me in the last five months and in the last few days.
	And when Nina Turner was here in Texas, she endorsed my campaign whenever she was here for our revolution.
	She wanted to know why our campaign had not been endorsed in 2018.
	And we told her there was some miscommunication in the endorsement process.
	So she ended up clearing that up by endorsing me while she was here on a tour with our revolution.
	So I have been endorsed by Nina Turner.
	Okay, so that's good to see that you've been.
	Let me ask you: do you have a stance on NAFTA and immigration?
	Ooh, NAFTA don't like it.
	It's a free trade agreement, and I don't believe in free trade.
	I believe in a fair trade agreement that includes protections for workers, the ability to unionize environmental protections, raising the living standards, and raising the working conditions of any country that we or they end up having a trade deal with.
	But as far as immigration, it's a whole other type of monster because they, the political establishment and Trump administration, want to alleviate the situation by putting up a wall.
	But that doesn't do anything when we don't end the endless wars and the intervention and regime change that happens on our taxpayer dollars.
	And then we're surprised when people are trying to come into this country because they want to survive.
	They are not here because they want to.
	They're here because they have to.
	They have no other choice after our country destroyed what is their home.
	Yes, that's the point we've made on this show many times.
	Is the reason why there's refugees showing up at the airports is because our country has been bombing their country for the last 20 years straight.
	So that's what's happened.
	I wanted to go back to the NAFTA issue and workers' rights.
	So there was a big strike in Mexico recently that affected the auto parts manufacturers.
	And then it spread to like a Coca-Cola bottling factory and dairy factories.
	So did you notice that?
	And can you speak to that?
	Well, I did notice that there was a strike.
	And I think it's wonderful that they finally workers are getting up and having that courage to get up and they're not alone in this.
	I wish that more people that work for these industries knew how to unionize so they can take on the corporate establishment and have bargaining rights.
	And that way they are not mistreated and the government isn't mistreating them, making them work for an unsustainable corporation that imposes unlivable conditions, unworkable conditions without a living wage and protections for workers.
	See, the problem is that capitalists can go, there's no borders for capitalists.
	They can go anywhere they want.
	There's only borders for workers, right?
	So what they often do, capitalists do, is they pit workers from different countries against each other.
	And so what was encouraging about this last strike in Mexico was that they got support from their brothers, union brothers in the United States and Canada.
	And so do you see a way where you can do a trade deal that kind of recognizes the brotherhood of workers across borders?
	The brotherhood and the sisterhood of workers, of course, I think that these trade deals should not put corporate stakeholders in positions to write a trade deal.
	I think it should be union workers, workers that have not unionized, that have the desire to unionize in whatever country that they're in that we're doing a trade deal in.
	That's important.
	It's the same thing that we're doing here.
	The city of Houston is prioritizing stakeholders as investors and people in corporations.
	But I let them know that the stakeholders are the people who live in this community who are going to have to live with the conditions that they impose on us.
	So we have a greater stake than they do.
	So definitely including workers, prioritizing workers, filling up the conversation and ideas and legislation with the, I guess how you call it, injecting it with union workers at the table to have a say in how this is constructed.
	And you don't, so you're, I mean, you're the real deal progressive, right?
	So that was the, when you ran against Beto, you were the real deal.
	You don't take corporate money.
	You're for Medicare for all.
	You're for a living wage.
	You're for free college.
	You're for workers' rights, pro-union, immigration reform.
	I mean, you check every box and you do it in a very powerful way.
	What is the response to people in Texas, right?
	Because people think a progressive in Texas, that's never going to fly.
	But are you finding success with people?
	I am.
	And we've created an infrastructure throughout our last campaign and communicating and using our grassroots activism to communicate our message and let people know that we haven't gone anywhere.
	We're not going to stop fighting.
	Whenever I was in Fort Bend County, I'm sorry, Montgomery County, one of the precinct chairholders said to me, we've never had anyone that was willing to take on this challenge and stand up and fight for us.
	You're the only one that showed up here and actually spoke with us.
	They said, Beto O'Rourke hasn't been here and had this conversation with us.
	And it's good to know that you come from a working class family, that you came from a family of migrant workers.
	So you understand the struggle.
	Said, even if you lose, do you promise us that you're going to continue fighting?
	And I, of course, I said yes, because I think that we are worth fighting for.
	And I consider myself a progressive and unapologetic progressive that will take on the corporate establishment win or lose.
	But my intent is on winning.
	And I won't give up because I believe that we are worth fighting for.
	Okay.
	Well, we wish you all the luck in the world and we want to have you come back on the show whenever you want.
	If you ever want to talk to our audience again, just let us know.
	But we're big fans of Sema Hernandez running for Senate in Texas once again.
	She's the real deal progressive.
	She's not a phony.
	And, you know, you're going to have to fight the Democratic Party.
	So good luck in your battle against the Deborah.
	You know, do you agree that the establishment, Democrats, the people who run the party?
	You know, it's kind of ironic that Nancy Pelosi is the leader of the quote-unquote left in the House, yet she's to the right of Trump voters.
	Did you ever think about that?
	Trump voters are for universal, or they're for single payer and free college.
	Nancy Pelosi is not.
	Does that kind of blow your mind that the leader of the Democratic Party is to the right of Trump voters?
	Well, it doesn't surprise me.
	And now that the Democrats have control of the House, they can do pretty much anything, including passing Medicare for all and raising the living wage and putting tuition-free college on the books.
	But that's not happening.
	So there definitely needs to be a progressive person that holds that position of being the Democratic leader of the House.
	And I've even said, Rocana, you know, this is something that you can do.
	I said, or you can be, you know, Bernie's vice president.
	But I want to see somebody that is far more progressive, more to the left than Nancy Pelosi to hold that position in the House.
	How do you feel about Venezuela before I let you go?
	Can you tell us your thoughts on Venezuela?
	Venezuela, that is a country that we should not be involved in in any way, shape, or form.
	They have sovereignty and we should respect their elections and what they do, what they choose to do.
	And supporting the opposition, the regime who refused to put himself on the ballot and all of a sudden claimed himself to be the leader of Venezuela is undemocratic.
	It's definitely something that I do not support.
	I do not support the political coup in Venezuela in any shape or form, however it takes, whether it's economic sanctions or just supporting the regime in there.
	I don't.
	I will never support it.
	Or illegal wars, which is part of my platform, not supporting illegal wars.
	Okay, so you don't support the economic sanctions or regime change in any form that's being pushed by Elliott Abrams, John Bolton, and Donald Trump.
	And Nancy Pelosi, that's correct.
	And Nancy Pelosi.
	Very good.
	Yes, that's correct.
	That's why we need people like you.
	Well, you know, I was always joking that I wanted to ask Bernie after the Democrats cheat him again this time, will he endorse Joe Biden?
	And we already got that answer.
	He said he would today.
	Well, I hope Joe Biden is willing to make the same commitment.
	If Bernie Sanders is the nominee, will he support him?
	I want to know if the Never Bernie crowd will support Bernie Sanders when he is the nominee, because there's no denying he's a frontrunner.
	Oh, there is denying it.
	They're denying it.
	Yes, get ready, Semma.
	Get ready for them to deny it and to cheat him and to do it right out in public like they did last time.
	And Bernie to not say a damn word about it.
	Well, we got to change that.
	We definitely got to change that.
	And I want to see other Democrats make that same commitment because it seems as if the question is always posed in a way that is divisive and it's gaslighting.
	What if Bernie Sanders is the nominee?
	What if there is cheating and we call it out?
	Will they change it?
	Will they not change it?
	Will they rig the system?
	We want to know.
	Bernie is held to a different standard.
	Why isn't everybody else held to that same standard as Bernie Sanders?
	That right there is injustice and it's undemocratic to do that to one candidate and not the rest.
	And I got to witness that at She the People presidential forum when they posed the question, how are you going to win Hillary's supporters?
	Well, Hillary's not running anymore.
	Hillary's not in the race.
	This is not about Hillary anymore.
	This is about beating Donald Trump and undoing the 40 years of undemocratic stripping away of our rights through legislation, through a democratic process.
	Yes, through democratic socialism that I do support.
	And if they're going to impose these things on Bernie Sanders and make him make commitments so that he can be considered a Democrat, I want to see other Democrats make the same commitment.
	Also not to allow the Republican donors to throw fundraisers for Democratic candidates for president.
	Boy.
	Is that too radical?
	Yes.
	I'm going to tell you, you keep talking like that.
	So what happens is if Bernie does win, that's when Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Debbie Washington Schultz, and Nera Tandon and John Podesta will start a third party.
	That's when we're going to get a third party.
	If Bernie wins, that's when they're going to, and they're going to call it the Progressive Party just to be bigger jerks.
	And, you know, but I'm still, my first bet is they're going to cheat him.
	And it's going to go to a second ballot and they're going to have the super delegates pick.
	And they're going to pick somebody who you can't say no to.
	Like, you know, I mean, as far as on identity politics.
	So what if that happens, Sema?
	I know it doesn't really have much to do with you or your race, but what if it does go to a second ballot and the super delegates choose and they choose somebody like Joe Biden or Pete Buttigieg?
	What do you think would happen then?
	That is something that I hope that there is an uprising.
	I know that the Trump presidency activated a lot of people.
	It was a catalyst for many people to start running for office and take bigger political stance.
	But when your only focus is defeating Trump and not defeating the rigged political patriarchy that imposes capitalism and racism, you're losing sight of what's really important.
	You do need to take on Trump, but you also need to take on the political establishment.
	And that is what Bernie is doing.
	That is who I support.
	That is what I support.
	And if for some reason he does lose, God forbid he does.
	I still want people to continue to flood the party, to occupy every office, go to every Democratic Party, run for chair, run to be a delegate, occupy every single space, record it, expose it to the world of what's going on.
	That is real justice.
	That is real activism.
	That is what we are here for.
	We are here for a democracy.
	And anything less than that is corrupt in itself.
	And if we get another Trump presidency, it's not us who are to blame.
	It's those who created an unfair, unjust democratic system that elects fascist dictators.
	Wow.
	Very well said.
	That was, wow, that was very well said.
	I like how you have identified the problem and the cause of Donald Trump.
	And you're focusing on the cause instead of the symptom.
	Well, what that means is that you'll be called a purist and that they'll try to ignore you.
	But listen, Semma Hernandez, thanks again for coming on.
	She's running for the United States Senate.
	She's running for Senate in Texas.
	So everybody, what's your website?
	SEMA for Texas, S-E-M-A-F-O-R-T-X-A-S.com.
	And you know what?
	People keep asking me, what is your name, Sema or SEMA?
	I say, depolinize me.
	Call me Sema.
	So Sema for Texas.
	Sema.
	Okay.
	Semma for Texas.
	And everybody go.
	And if you want to help out, volunteer, or donate, please do so.
	She's a real deal progressive, and it's great to talk to you.
	I'm really flattered.
	I mean, I'm really honored to meet you.
	I'm really honored to be on your show.
	Thanks.
	Stephanie, the miserable liberal, you are awesome.
	And Jimmy Dore, you are hilariously awesome.
	Sema Hernandez, everybody check out Sema for Texas.
	Hello, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Guess.
	Guess?
	I'll give you a hint.
	Let me be frank.
	Kevin Spacey?
	Nice job.
	You've got it on the first try.
	Why are you calling?
	Oh, just doing a little PR tour with media outlets.
	Wow.
	Well, we don't really do that sort of thing.
	The Jimmy Door show jokes about politics and the news and stuff like that.
	Oh, perfect place to start.
	I assume you watched House of Cards.
	No.
	Fuck you.
	Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
	How do you hear the entire phone call?
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	Today's show was written, that's right, it was written by Frank Connap, Jim Earl, Ron Placone, Step Semarano, and Mark Van Landowick.
	All the voices today performed by the one and the only the inimitable Mike McRae, who can be found at mikemcrae.com.
	That's it for this week.
	Ah, you be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
	Do not freak, do not freak, do not freak out.

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