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June 9, 2017 - Jimmy Dore Show
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The Jimmy Dore Show!
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
the show for the kind of people that are It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's unfair, too.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore!
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore Show.
Right now, we're in Chicago.
What do you think about that?
Doing the live Jimmy Dore show.
And what's coming up on today's show?
Because that's what everybody wants to know.
What's coming up on today's show?
We're going to talk about how is Dottie Tatahan's Trump affecting the Republican Party?
What's a good signpost?
Well, how does Fox News feel about him?
The answer just may surprise you, or will it?
So we're going to check in with Neil Cavuto of Fox News.
He's got a special message for the president that just may make you laugh a little bit.
Okay, that's coming up.
Plus, a lot lot more.
We're going to have phone calls today.
George Cloody calls in today, talks about he had twins.
You know, he had twins.
Oh, he's got some sweet stories.
He got a lot of sweet stories about what it's like to be a dude dad.
It's really fantastic.
Also, Rick Perry calls in.
He's got a new post inside the Trump administration.
He shares it with us.
Plus, Barack Obama's got some stuff to say.
That's coming up.
Plus a lot, lot more.
Oh, Nick Brada.
Nick Brada's on this week's show from Draft Bernie.
Plus a lot lot more.
us today at the Jimmy Dore Show.
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Hello.
Howdy, Jimmy Dore.
Guess who this is?
Never mind.
It's me.
The 14th and current United States Secretary of Energy.
Ricky Perry, how's your work at the Department of Energy going?
No, Jimmy, I'm head of the FDA now.
Pretty cool, right?
Wait, you're heading the Department of Energy, I thought.
You're head of the FDA too?
I thought Scott Gottley was.
Yeah.
Who?
Scott Gottlieb.
Trump appointed him.
Oh, yeah, him.
Well, he might have to recuse himself for a year from a few FDA decisions since he works for a couple of pharmaceutical companies.
A couple?
Around 20.
But only for a year.
Then he'll be able to decide on things involving Bristol-Meyer Squib because it'll have been a year.
And time is the great concealer.
In the meantime, I was told I could be head of the FDA.
You have a problem with that?
Are you sure that's going to happen?
Because last time we spoke, they had you in charge of the parking garage at the Federal Reserve.
That was my mistake.
I went to the wrong garage.
All those buildings in Washington look the same, Jimmy.
Big white buildings with their fluted columns and Corinthian capitals.
Very decadent and suggestive of genitals.
Time to bring back the Doric order.
Yeah, I said Doric.
There's dead people everywhere in that town.
You ever notice that?
In Washington, D.C. Yep.
A lot of cemeteries and tombs and big statues all over the place.
It's depressing.
You know what I'd do if I was in charge of our nation's capital?
What?
Build a barbecue pit every 100 yards.
They already have one next to JFK's grave.
All right.
Why not roast some marshmallows and wheenies while giving respect to our nation's heroes?
Some people might think that's desecrating the eternal flame.
Yeah, only people who've never had a Texas hot dog.
There's a saying we have back home in Haskell, Texas.
You haven't tasted muscle tissue and insect parts until it's been grilled over JFK's bone.
All right.
So you claim you're now heading the FDA and Department of Energy.
Affirmative.
But in order to combat bureaucracy, we're going to combine those two important agencies so we completely destroy them.
You're going to combine the Food and Drug Administration with the Department of Energy?
Yeah, now it's called the Department of Energy Administration or the DEA.
But the DEA is the drug enforcement agency.
No, the Drug Enforcement Agency is now called the DEA too.
They enforce drugs.
Drugs need enforcing.
We have a big problem in Texas with drugs.
That's why we need a big wall to stop the immigration of Bolivian marching powder, joy flakes, and the devil's dandruff.
Wow.
I didn't know you were familiar with all that slang for cocaine.
Yeah, I was once a drug meal for the Bush family.
Not that Bush family, but another one who looked exactly like the famous Bush family.
At least that's what they told me.
I had a monkey on my back for years.
You don't think I talk like this just because I'm from Texas, do you?
Obviously, you don't know the real me.
Have you ever read my book entitled On My Honor?
No.
Me neither.
But when I do, I'll discover more about myself that you don't know, and then I'll tell you about it in my own special way.
Probably through long-form improv.
Now, if you don't mind, I have to get back to destroying government institutions by combining acronyms.
Hey, welcome to the Jimmy Door show.
You can see I have a special guest right there.
He's taking a drink of milk or whatever.
He's former out.
What was your position with the Bernie Sanders campaign?
I was the National Political Outreach Coordinator.
I worked as the deputy to the political director.
Okay, so this is Nick Brana.
You've seen him, friend of the show.
He's starting a third party.
It's called the Draft Bernie Party.
And so the way this works is everybody goes and donates to this third party, but your donation doesn't get charged unless Bernie says, yes, I'm going to come.
So if we get enough people donating and saying, look, we're ready for you, Bernie, that's what we're trying to do to convince him it's time to leave the corporate Democrats and it's time to start a third party.
Because Nick, before I get to my first question, I just want to say what I want to get your opinion on this.
If everybody who I knew personally and people like me who believed in a Green New Deal and didn't want to support a corporatist warmonger, if they would have voted their conscience and voted for Jill Stein in a Green New Deal, we would still have Donald Trump as president, but we would have a radically different Democratic Party right now because the Democratic Party would almost fail, cease to exist, and it would be absorbed into the new party.
That's what I think what would have happened.
What do you think would have happened if everybody would have voted their conscience?
Yeah, I think it would, I think that would have happened too.
I also think that would have happened if Bernie had run as an independent candidate.
Like if he had joined Jill on the ticket, I think he would be president right now.
No doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah, me too.
I mean, there were polls then, Jimmy, that showed 55% of the country wanted an independent candidate to run, a third-party option.
And then there was another poll.
82% were disgusted with the candidates that were available.
Out of that 55% that I mentioned earlier that wanted a third party on the ballot in 2016 that wanted to vote for a third party, a major third party, 91% of voters under 29 wanted a new party.
That's so unanimous.
Like, you know, the political revolution has already been won, Jimmy, in the hearts and minds of the next generation of millennials.
You know, and now to put it this way, in terms of what we're trying to do with draft Bernie and to get Bernie to start that new party now, four more years of highly progressive millennials are going to replace four years of silent generation conservatives in 2020.
And millennials are already, as of last year, the largest voting bloc in the country.
So if we could just harness that power instead of trying to get trying to diminish their power and get them to support corporatism, we need to harness their power so we can maybe make a radical change in politics in this country.
Again, I'll say it once again that if everybody would have voted their conscience instead of voting for Hillary Clinton, we would still, we might actually have won if Bernie would have jumped and gone to a third party.
But even without Bernie, even with Bernie staying in the Democrats and voting for Hillary, if everyone had just would have voted their conscience and voted for a Green New Deal, that would have probably been 20% of the vote.
And then the Democrats would have got probably 20-some percent of the vote.
And then they would have been pretty much wiped out as a party.
And they would have had to either completely go progressive or just cease to be.
So again, I just want to remind everybody, this is very viable.
People have a million reasons why you can't do a third party.
We can do this.
This is very, very doable, especially when you have a charismatic leader at the top of the ticket like Bernie Sanders.
And what you've said is already proven that the people 30 and under are 100% progressive, ready for a change.
So what has been going on with the draft, Bernie, so far?
What any progress?
Oh, totally.
So we've been around for a little over three months.
And in those three months, I mean, we have accomplished a tremendous amount.
At this point, millions of people have seen our interviews, have read our articles, our social reach on social media.
We've got social media platforms like all over Facebook, you know, website, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit.
Also, our social reach is in the millions.
And so I, you know, we've really had a large impact, I think, a major impact in the dialogue in the progressive movement.
You know, and we didn't begin like some of these organizations, you know, like our revolution with the senator's name behind us.
We didn't begin like Justice Democrats, began with not one, but two of the largest independent media platforms in the country.
You know, so we just started our as a group of people who had a vision, you know, about how it's time about how the country is ready for a major progressive third party.
You know, and that has brought us to the point where we've got, we've been able to get the support of progressive luminaries like Josh Fox, who was on our organizing call back in March, our kickoff organizing call, Dr. Cornell West, who joined us last month with an article in The Guardian and then a joint appearance with me in Democracy Now, where we issued an invitation to Bernie actually to a town hall to join us at a town hall to discuss this.
And so, you know, we've come a long way.
I'm also, I'm very proud, I'm particularly proud of the ground field organizing program that we have.
We have nearly 100 organizers in 37 states who are on the ground collecting petition signatures to Bernie.
They are also building, they're hosting joint events with other progressive groups, be it DSA, be it Socialist Alternative.
DSA supported us.
DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America.
Exactly.
Okay.
And we have thousands of volunteers across the country.
And so it's just been an explosion of enthusiasm since we launched and since we last spoke, Jimmy.
And when we did speak last time, I said time is on our side.
Just like when I wrote that article back in November with the idea to begin with that Bernie should start a new party.
I said, you know what?
It's not very clear now.
Now there's, you know, hope and people are saying maybe we could save this party.
Just wait.
Just wait a few months.
And that's exactly what we've seen.
Well, what we've seen since last time we talked is the Democrats elected a corporatist who is there to rebuff progressives as the DNC chair, Tom Perez.
His job is to make sure progressives don't have power in the DNC and we keep being corporatists inside the Democratic Party.
That is his job.
He didn't even want that job, Tom Perez.
He had to, Barack Obama had to twist his arm so he took that job.
And like a good corporatist, he took the job and he is thwarting the will of progressives actively right now.
And everybody knows it's not a secret.
He can't even say single payer.
It won't even come out of his mouth.
He does interviews with Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders is literally humiliating him as he sits next to him and the whole world sees it, right?
So it's not, this isn't like a secret, what's happening.
What else, what also happened, Nick, was in California, the California, we had our election for the Democratic Party delegates, right?
So there's way more progressives than there are corporatists in California in the Democratic Party.
So we all turned out to vote in January and we thought we took over the party because an overwhelming majority of progressives, we got elected as Democratic delegates.
Turns out the Democratic Party inside California also has a rigged system and they have super delegates.
So what we thought we took over was not the party.
It was one third of the party.
So there are still two thirds of the party that are made up of super delegates.
They crushed the will of the progressives in California.
They literally just elected in California, the head of the California Democratic Party, is a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry who was instrumental and took $100,000 just last election cycle to defeat Bernie Sanders' bill that was on the ballot here to get cheaper prescription drugs for Californias.
That guy worked against Bernie Sanders and that bill.
He is now the chairman of the California Democratic Party.
And you tell me that party's not dead.
And the man who came before him, Jimmy, was the one whose parting thanks to progressives was to tell the nurses and a new nurses to shut the fuck up and get out.
That is exactly.
So the chairman of the Democratic Party, by the way, if you're John Burton, he's the Democratic Party in California, which just goes to prove that a drunk monkey could run the Democratic Party in California if a jerk like that actually was running the California Democratic Party, because there's a guy who's telling Democrats to go out to everybody's town halls and disrupt it.
But when people, progressives and nurses who are fighting for single payer come to his meeting, he flips them off, literally tells them, shut the F up and get the hell out.
After they just lost to Trump, he's telling the progressives to shut the F up and get the hell out Of their party.
Guess what?
We are.
That's what I said.
That's exactly what I said.
I said for the first time, we're going to take your advice, Democratic establishment, and we are going to get it the hell out.
And when we form a new party, a progressive populist party, you get like, we'll leave you to fight over your anthill.
That's what you'll be fighting over, basically, you know, because people need to be aware of the fundamentals here.
The country, issue by issue, is progressive.
Issue by, you know, you go money in politics, inequality, regulation on banking, single payer, down to living wage, free college, infrastructure, ending the wars.
They're 100% progressive.
And you add to that the fact that the majority of Americans want a major new party.
They say they want 57%.
Only 37% say they don't.
57% say they want a major new party.
And so you put those things together, you know, and then add to it a third thing, which I think is incredible as well, which is that despite, okay, you know, to set the scene for you, we have a very unpopular, you know, authoritarian reality TV show president.
That guy, everything he's doing, the daily attacks on working people, how unpopular he is, you know, the fact that he stacked his cabinet with billionaires, all of this, that he isn't, that he isn't keeping any of his campaign promises.
Well, guess what?
You would think, you know, traditional political theory would dictate the opposition party, people must be rushing to the opposition party, like tripping over each other to get into the opposition party, into the Democratic Party.
You know, okay, that's one thing.
One major force should be building the Democratic Party.
Add to that now, Bernie Sanders, the most popular politician in the country, trying his best to try and making a monumental effort to bring people into the Democratic Party as well.
A second major force that should be growing the Democratic Party.
What do we see instead, Jimmy, when we look at party affiliation numbers?
The Democratic Party is declining.
The Democratic Party is losing membership.
And in fact, the Republican Party is holding stay, even gaining a little bit.
Yes.
So something is really, really wrong with this strategy.
This strategy is really an abysmal failure.
You know, you've got most of the country that is progressive, wants a new party.
And yet at the same time, they're leaving the Democratic Party.
And the reason they're doing that, Jimmy, is because they realize that the Democratic Party is not an opposition party.
It's not.
It's on the same team.
It's the opposition.
It's an opposition.
Two parties for corporations, none for the people.
That's exactly right.
Two parties for corporations, none for the people.
So, Nick, a lot of people keep poo-pooing the idea of a third party.
But in fact, in historical terms, third parties is what's always been the thing to save America.
Am I right?
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
Third parties have led progressive change in U.S. history.
They've always been at the helm.
It was the Free Soil Party, another, the Whig party that led the charge on abolition of the abolition of slavery in the 1850s.
And then it was the Republican Party, of course, the Republican Party that replaced the Whig Party that wouldn't accept an anti-slavery platform.
And then, you know, fast forward 50 years, it was third parties.
It was the Progressive Party.
There was a People's Party back then, actually.
It was the Bull Moose Party fighting for issues like women's suffrage, the direct election of senators, and employment insurance, child labor laws, Social Security, the 40-hour work week.
Down the line, these achievements were actually brought up by third parties.
Third parties have been at the helm of progressive change throughout U.S. history, and they succeed either by forcing the major parties to adopt their platform or by replacing them outright in the way that the Republican Party did.
And in fact, when the Republican Party replaced the Whigs, Lincoln's Republican Party, I think it was a much more daunting challenge than it is now.
I mean, back then, the country was sharply divided over slavery.
Today, the issues, the hot-butted political issues that divide people, I mean, people are basically unanimous on things like getting money out of politics, you know?
And so the coalition, the coalition is much larger.
You know, not just that, but we have the internet today.
We have instantaneous, you know, spread spread of action, which made the Bernie campaign possible.
And that brings me to a really important point, which is that Bernie already built the party, Jimmy.
He did it during the primaries by popularizing the message, by building a national donor base, by building a national volunteer infrastructure.
Bernie built the party.
The party exists.
It just needs to be made official.
You know, he brought the coalition together already.
We've done the hard work.
And he did that in one year, starting from nothing, starting from nothing.
He did that in one year.
Imagine what we can do in three and a half years when we start at that level.
It's because people are hungry for real policy solutions.
And right now, the Democrats are offering zero policy solutions.
And what they're offering is a distraction called Russia.
So when you see the Democrats talking about Russia and you see the mainstream establishment news also talking about Russia, what that shows you is that there is an establishment and they do have an agenda.
And that agenda is to not give you single payer.
That his agenda is to not allow the people to take over the government and to keep the government and the corporate media in control by corporations, multinational, that want more war, bigger banks, more fracking, more college debt.
That's what they want.
They want to keep you sicker, paying twice as much for your health care.
That's exactly what's going on.
I want to make one quick point about you said when the Republican Party took over from the Whigs, not only that, they were a regional party at that time, Nick.
They weren't even a national party, the Republican Party, but they had the ideas, right?
And so that's why they won, because Lincoln was charismatic.
Lincoln had the ideas.
He had a vision.
And most of the people were on board.
So they weren't even a national party.
So this whole idea, again, of people of, you can't do anything.
You can't, it's the same people who say you can never have single payer.
Those are the same people saying you can't do a third party.
It's the defeatist corporatists who want the status quo to stay as it is.
Because if this succeeds, they're all out of a job, right, Nick?
That's right.
No, that's completely right.
And the Democratic Party, like, let's go back to California.
You know, what happens when the Democratic Party does take over?
You have right now in California a Democratic governor and Democratic legislature.
Why haven't they passed single payer?
It's been in your state platform for like decades.
They haven't passed.
You know, why didn't they do it when they controlled the country on a national level?
You know, when Obama swept in and expanded his caucus, the Democratic caucus in Congress and in the Senate.
It's because they don't really stand for those things.
They don't stand for those things.
You know, when they get the majority, they don't pass it.
And nor do they need the Republicans' help in sweeping in what is now gone beyond plutocracies, becoming a kleptocracy.
You know, so the Democrats' plan, you know, as we've, as has emerged since the general election, the Democrats plan to combat Trump and to combat Republican donors is to bring in, to put in Democratic billionaires.
Let's get, let's, let's elect our own billionaires.
You know, what they're doing is they're cutting the politicians out of the process.
Generally, the billionaires would buy themselves a politician who would then go and legislate in their favor.
Now the billionaires are just cutting the politicians out of the equation and they're taking office in Florida.
It was Stephen Fiddle.
It was that billionaire took California party chair.
Wait a minute, Nick, wait a minute.
Keith Ellison's very progressive and he told me that I should vote for that billionaire in Florida.
Well, and that's a great point because it shows Keith Ellison wanted a real shot at becoming chair.
If Keith Ellison had not moderated his stances, he wouldn't have had a shot.
And that's the whole problem with the party is that in order to be effective, in order to attain power, you have to compromise your principles to the point at which attaining power becomes pointless in the first place.
So what happened was Keith Ellison backed a billionaire to take on, by the way, they had to suspend their own rules in Florida to do it.
Have a billionaire take over the Democratic Party in Florida.
And that's what's, and so, and Keith Ellison backed that guy instead of the person who wasn't bought.
So that tells you everything you need to know about Keith Ellison and the Democratic Party as far as I'm concerned.
Keith Ellison might be a nice person, but he's working inside of an evil system and he doesn't want to break up the system.
He's working right inside the system to the point where he backed a freaking millionaire, a billionaire to take over the party in Florida.
So that's what's, there's a rot at the center of the Democratic Party and it's corporate cash.
And Keith Ellison doesn't want to get rid of it.
In fact, he said, we're going to have an election.
We'll have a vote to see if we get rid of it.
So he's not really a visionary.
He's not really a progressive.
He's a go-along Democrat who's okay with corporatism because he also doesn't want to lose his position of power inside the Democratic Party.
Now, you don't have to say yes to any of that stuff, but everybody who knows anything knows that.
And Keith Ellison knows it himself.
So does Tom Perez know that he's working against progressives and that Tom Perez is totally bought by corporate America.
He's not working for the people.
They are there to thwart progressives.
The Democratic Party right now is controlled opposition for progressives.
Do you agree with that?
I do agree with controlled opposition.
Yeah, I think the first time we spoke, I said that the Democratic Party has a unique position in our system of government.
The Democratic Party has a mission above.
It's not, you know, traditional electoral organization and that you would think that its objective is to attain power to implement its policies.
Rather, it has a mission above winning.
And that mission is preventing progressives from winning because it is essential.
It's the control mechanism.
And no plutocracy, no oligarchy, by virtue of being a government of the 1% against the majority of the 99%, you need some kind of way of containing the majority, you know?
And so there has to be some kind of mechanism.
No plutocracy would survive without an electoral mechanism of keeping the left down.
And that's what the Democratic Party is in our own system.
Yes, the Democratic Party takes progressives who actually are the majority of the people in the party and they keep their agenda thwarted, right?
Because by pulling, just like they did in the California Democratic caucus just last week or two weeks ago now, where they thwarted the will of the progressive people, which is definitely progressive in California, and they installed literally a pharmaceutical lobbyist after they told the progressives to shut the F up and get out.
There's any, if you people need, if anyone needs a bigger way, so this is what I don't understand.
What is Bernie waiting for?
Because 2018 is supposed to be a bloodbath for the Democrats, but they are doing everything they can to keep suppressing the vote.
And what I mean by that is they're not giving people a reason to vote.
They're giving people a reason to hate Trump.
They already did that.
People already hated Trump and they lost.
So they're still doing that.
And they don't have a vision.
And what, so now I want to personally, are you getting a lot of pushback?
Because you, you know, you're a political person your whole life.
Are you getting a lot of people like angry at you now because you're doing this?
Yeah, some people, of course, are.
You know, the Democratic Party's not too happy with me.
But most of the reaction from within the progressive community and from like real life working people, the people who were supposed to represent in government, those people, the reaction from those people is overwhelmingly favorable.
I mean, Nina Turner just went on this Sunday on to CNN State of the Union.
Nina Turner, by the way, loves us on social media.
You know, she's retweeted our donate link.
She retweeted, she just recently retweeted, Bernie, Nina, and Tulsi starting a people's party equals like, you know, victory.
So, you know, she just went on State of the Union on Sunday and she talked about how people across the country, you know, wherever she goes are saying, you know, I don't trust these two parties anymore.
We need a new party.
And that's what the polls show, too, 57% of the people.
So my question is, how are we supposed to revolutionize the country by disregarding the will of the majority?
You know, what about, what if instead of trying to fight what the majority want, what if we join them instead?
You know, what if instead of struggling against the progressive current, why are we letting working people across the country be more progressive than our movement?
Like, you know, what, like, what if instead we joined them and we got, we went with the current.
And if we did that, Jimmy, Bernie has like an 80 to 87% favorability rating inside the party.
So he owns that that party is his.
It's his party.
It's just stuck within a framework that doesn't permit it to express our views, you know, our political views, our issues.
And so with independence, it's 57% to 70% favorability.
If Bernie was to start a new party that got just half of Democrats and half of independents, that would be the largest party in America by far.
And a lot of and a lot of people think that, oh, well, you know, the spoiler effect is going to hold you back, but they don't, that that's kind of a misunderstanding of what the spoiler effect is.
And so part of the beauty of this, Jimmy, is that he would bring over, Bernie would bring over about half the Democratic Party, or at least a very large portion of the Democratic Party.
So you would be, you're cutting the Democratic Party in half, and then you're adding to that.
You're adding independents, you're adding young people, you're adding third party voters.
You're adding conservatives who just want a better government.
You know, you're adding people who've given up on voting.
And so then what you're talking about is you're saying that this new party, you know, having taken half the Democratic Party and then adding all of those things is larger than what remains to the Democratic Party.
And the way the spoiler effect works is that it causes, it leaves room for only two large parties in the United States.
It whittles down.
One on the left, one on the right.
And it makes factions on the left or the right consolidate into one around the largest faction.
We would automatically almost beat the largest faction because we're taking half the Democratic Party, adding a huge number of independents.
So that means that the rest will consolidate around us.
I don't think people realize just how small of a party the Democratic Party is.
Last time I checked, they were under 30% of the country.
They were somewhere around 26, 27%.
And independents, upwards, over 40% of the people in America consider themselves an independent.
So again, like you said, if you got half of those people and half the Democrats, we now have the biggest party in the country.
So if a third party is polling higher than the Democrats, then they're not a third party anymore.
And I guess.
Yes.
And I got to say, too, it's the Democratic Party.
And actually, if we did this in 2020, the Democratic Party might not make the 15% debate cut.
How hilarious would that be?
Hilarious.
So I think this is great.
And people are starting to figure out that they can do this.
Thank you.
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Oh, is this former President Barack Obama?
Please, Jimmy, just call me Barack Texaco Obama.
That president thing is so yesterday.
I'm in what you call stage two public service now.
I serve the public by standing at the benevolent trickle-down showers of Wall Street.
That's horrible.
Uh-huh.
I currently have two drones hovering over your stash.
What?
Two drones?
Yes, Fat Man and Little Boy.
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So just try me, my friend.
Why would you have to destroy my stash?
Can't you just confiscate it?
Oh, we'll do our best to take your stash alive, Jimmy.
But if it so much as looks at my drones the wrong way, it'll get taken down with extreme prejudice and dumped in the Arabian Sea.
So leave all my interests alone.
We're all doing the best here, considering.
Considering what?
Considering that some of my friends write for the Washington Post.
Oh.
Hey, why don't you ask me how to work on my library?
It's coming along.
Oh, okay.
How's work on your library coming along?
My what?
I Ah!
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Your library?
The Obama Presidential Center.
That's more like it, son.
It's going to be an Obama presidential center like you've never seen before.
It's a complete reimagineering of your traditional presidential library.
How much will it cost?
It's just a modest little building with a tower.
But yeah, but how much?
Inside a little park with lots of barbecue pits for family galleries.
Yeah, yeah.
How much will it cost?
It's perfect for small communal gatherings.
How much?
Half a billion.
Half a billion.
Who's paying for this?
You mean endowing?
Yeah, I guess.
I'm not at liberty to reveal any financial specifics, Jimmy.
But there will be an informative plaque in the lobby next to the Goldman Sachs logjam ride.
Wouldn't it be nice to take that half a billion and instead use it to fund public libraries all over the country like Andrew Carnegie once did?
What?
We want to have a bad connection, Jimmy.
It sounded like you just suggested I take that cool half million and build more places for smelly hobos to rub up against a sports illustrated swimsuit edition.
This isn't just going to be a damn library, Jimmy, mainly because it's going to be digital and you can't check out anything.
Also, a family center with a surrounding recreational area.
I see lots of kids playing in the park and standing in line for Mr. Obama's wild housing bubble ride.
It's a long ride.
And you have to get on it at the George W. Bush Library.
Oh, can you tell us anything else about your presidential center?
Yes.
It's more than an archive or a museum.
It's also an incubator to affect.
It's about hope.
It's about belief.
It's about a story that our kids tell themselves in a building funded by Wall Street investment bankers and guys I gave ambassadorships to.
Fun for the whole family.
See you on Grand Opening Day, Jimmy.
But remember, in order to ride Obama's Wall Street reform ride, your ability to tolerate bullshit must be way higher than the bottom of the sign.
So I don't know if you remember, but there was a, whoa, there was a, I don't know what just happened.
But there was a Jagoff nightclub comedian during the general election kept saying that if Donald Tanahan's Trump won, that the silver lining would be that it would actually be better for a progressive agenda long run, right?
So short run, it hurts because, but in the long run, meaning four to four years, it's a bonus.
It's a silver lining in a sense because Donald Trump is toxic to the Republican Party, right?
He's the most unpopular, his lowest ratings, any president at this point, so he's pretty unpopular.
He was the most unpopular guy to ever win the presidency because he got lucky right against a completely incompetent campaign by one of the most disliked people in the world.
He got lucky.
So in that sense, I mean.
So I said that what would happen is if all the Democrats and Independents banded together, oh, this is going on.
It has a mind of its own today.
Look at it.
If the Democrats and progressives banded together and the Purple State Republicans peeled off, Trump wouldn't be able to get anything done, blah, blah, which is happening.
They weren't able to, they're not able to pass a tax plan.
His travel bans keep failing.
They weren't able to repeal Obamacare.
So he's an incompetent, right?
Which is, in a sense, good because he won't be able to get all that horrible stuff done.
He wants to.
And he keeps shooting himself in the foot trying to get that horrible stuff done.
And he's splitting the party.
That's what I said.
That's not what I, first of all, I was just repeating what I had heard on the Christopher Hayes show.
He had three people on, that McKay Coppins, the guy used to be from BuzzFeed.
Now I think he's somewhere else.
He had on a guy from Red State and he had himself.
They were all saying, yes, if Trump wins, it'll split the Republican.
It'll destroy the Republican Party.
That's what they were saying.
And I sided with them.
I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
That looks like it would.
And it turns out it is having that effect.
Now, what the Democrats have to do is be able to not allow the Republicans to distance themselves from Trump.
They have to wed them together.
And that's how the Democrats can win in 2018 and 2020.
Okay.
Proof of this theory coming true?
Fox News, Neil Cavuto, who, by the way, did a whole piece defending Roger Ailes that we've talked about on this show.
That guy, that's who this guy is, Neil Cavuto.
That's who Neil Cavuto is.
Even Neil Cavuto is starting to turn on Trump already.
We're only five months into his presidency, not even five months into his presidency.
Oh, no, we are.
Five months.
That's right.
Because it's June already.
Yeah, so we're five.
He's got sworn into 20th of February March.
So we're about five months in.
Well, I just wanted to add, Jimmy, you can dislike Trump and still think Roger Ailes is great.
Hashtag Rachel Maddow.
Yes, that is.
So here we go.
Let's listen to Neil Cavuto and his upsetness.
So the president's having dinner tonight with key Republicans on getting this whole healthcare thing back on track.
Here's hoping they ruin his appetite.
In fact, everyone's appetite.
Here's hoping they get brutally blunt with the president.
Here's hoping they give him some food for thought and let him know if he keeps doing what he's doing, they'll all be politically puking next year.
A lot of upset stomach analogies going on there.
Bonnie's shaming him, too.
Sounds like Jagoff nightclub comedian was right.
That wasn't, by the way, that's not a brilliant prediction.
That's just, but the problem with politics today is people are paid to not see what's right in front of their face.
So that's the problem.
And then they go out and say all this stuff, and then other knuckleheads in the media just repeat it, even though they're not paid to repeat it.
They do because they hear it from the establishment, and the establishment's always right.
So that's, this is Jagoff nightclub comedian and Neil Cavuto figured out that if Trump is president, that the Republicans and Trump will be getting cooked in 2018.
You don't hear, let's listen.
They give him some food for thought and let him know if he keeps doing what he's doing, they'll all be politically puking next year.
They'll all be.
You mean the Republicans?
Yes.
They'll all be politically puking next year.
It's a guy who defended Roger Ailes.
Just so you know.
So this isn't some progressive theory.
This isn't some crazy guy on the left hoping you're wrong.
We should have had Hillary.
No, that's exactly how it's working out.
Now, Ken, the Democrats are going to try and screw it up.
They're going to try to run Tim Kaine.
They won't say single payer.
They don't think people really want $15 minimum wage.
They're not against fracking.
You know, the Democrats are horrible, which is why we have Trump.
That's what people don't understand.
You don't have Trump because of Jill Stein.
You have Trump because the Democrats are horrible and they don't represent the people who they're supposed to represent.
And that's obvious.
Again, only to people who aren't paid to think another way.
If you're not paid to have an opinion like the people at Share Blue, Media Matters, then you can see this.
It's obvious.
But if you're like, you know, all the people at MSNBC, you're not going to see this, right?
Because you're paid to not see it.
I would love someone to pay me $30,000 a day to not see stuff because I'm good at not seeing stuff.
All right, so here we go.
We'll get angry.
Some of them will get angry.
Probably furious.
Maybe start tweeting about the first one who dares question his wisdom.
Like he did today when he tweeted, and I quote, the fake mainstream media is working so hard trying to get me not to use social media.
They hate that I can get the honest and unfiltered message out.
Mr. President, it's not the fake news media that's your problem.
It's you.
It's not just your tweeting, it's your scapegoating.
Just keep this in mind as we go through this.
This is Fox News.
Just so you know, they stayed behind Bush until the end.
They're behind Trump.
When you watch their broadcasties, they don't say the bad things about them.
They spin it just like they normally would.
Whoa, to me, this is a big deal.
Think how bad it must be for a guy who defended Roger Ailes to come out and tell the truth.
He's telling the truth.
Hey, Trump is screwing us.
Us clinging to Trump is a bad idea.
Your refusal to see that sometimes you're the one who's feeding your own beast and acting beastly with your own guys.
Those are your guys, Mr. President.
They're on your team, Mr. President.
And right about now, they seem shell-shocked and dejected, though, looking at their deer in the headlight eyes.
I bet they're too afraid to tell you.
Now, they're not perfect, but they do have your back.
As no lesson, the Wall Street Journal uses today.
Do you have theirs?
Mr. President, they didn't tweet disparaging comments about a London mayor in the middle of a murder spree.
You did.
They didn't create that needless distraction.
You did.
They didn't get you off your very valid and very promising agenda.
You did.
They didn't turn on a travel ban that you signed.
You did.
You're right to say a lot of people are out to get you, Mr. President.
They are.
But as the journal pointed out, the buck stops with you, Mr. President, and risks ruining the very promising economic agenda that has buoyed spirits and the markets because of you, Mr. President.
That's good.
Look at these critiques you're now hearing from usually friendly and supportive allies as sort of like an intervention.
Because firing off these angry misses and tweets risks your political destruction.
Quoting the journal, if this pattern continues, Mr. Trump may find himself running an administration with no one but his family and the Breitbart staff.
People of talent and integrity won't work for a boss who undermines them in public without thinking about the consequences.
Again, if the Democrats had to lose, they could not have picked a better guy to lose to.
He is wrecking the Republican brand.
And he's going to take them down with him if we let him.
But the Democrats are trying so hard to not give the people an alternative to the Republicans.
They're trying as hard as they can right now.
That's why they got Tom Perez as the head of the DNC.
That's why they won't say let single payer leave their lips.
That's why they won't come out nationally for the $15 minimum wage.
That's why they won't say we want to end the wars.
That's why they just keep talking about Russia.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
This is why.
Well, not only that, but instead of really focusing on let's get a platform that's going to kick ass and get some of these discouraged people back, get some people back on board, they're more focused on impeaching him, which would then give us President Penn something way worse.
Again, we're watching the dumbest political party in the world, the Democratic Party.
And it's, again, it's a gift to them.
But they're broken, which is why we have Trump.
So they can't even take advantage of the gift.
They can't even take it back.
And who gets screwed?
And who, by the way, people still mad at Jill Stein, still not mad at the DNC for screwing us out of Bernie Sanders, who would have kicked Trump's ass.
People still mad at Jill Stein voters, still mad at Bernie Busters.
How could you ever get mad at someone for not voting Hillary Clinton?
As my friend Rusty Nagel?
Lewis.
Rusty Lewis says, as Rusty Lewis says, Hillary Clinton was the only politician in history not expected to win over voters by campaigning.
She's the only one.
In fact, they knew she was hurting in Michigan, and they decided not to go to Michigan to try to get her numbers up because they thought they would signal she was weak there.
So that's what you, but you're supposed to go campaign.
That's why you have a campaign.
Except when Hillary Clinton campaigns, as we've pointed out before in the show, her numbers start here and they never only go down.
They never go back up.
Because she's a bad politician and people don't like her.
Well, and part of the reason there isn't really a clear platform right now and they're not going along with the platform of the most popular politician in the country who is in their party is because there's this entitlement to your vote.
Like, well, we're not Trump.
Right.
So, I mean, obviously, we're it.
Yeah.
We're it.
And that's just another talk about entitlement.
That's that party of super delegates, the party who rigged it here in California.
So now the Democratic Party in California literally just rigged an election so that a corporate pharmaceutical lobbyist can be the Democratic Party chairman in California.
That's the party in Bloop, California.
They cheated.
They used super delegates.
And they literally, a lot of people are accusing them of literally rigging the vote because there were way more progressives voting for a progressive chair of the party.
So that's the corporate Democrats.
They're liars.
They're cheaters.
And why wouldn't they be?
They don't have any integrity.
They want corporate money, which is the opposite of hagging integrity and ethics and politics.
So here we go.
But again, Jagoff, nightclub comedian, was completely right about this.
This is exactly how it's happening.
And the Democrats are screwing up because they want to impeach him.
It's like, oh, hey, I wish that Congress would just impeach Trump so we could get rid of all these distractions and get down to the serious business of impeaching Pence.
Because what else?
The Democrats don't have a goddamn agenda.
Imagine how the Democrats could be kicking ass if those marches were for single payer, if that march was for free college, if that march was for a living wage, if that march was for breaking up the banks.
Imagine if they had that every week, a march like that.
Let's have a march to break up the banks.
We'll get hundreds of thousands of people out.
Let's tall.
Because the corporate Democrats have hijacked those marches, and those marches now become about nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
And they'd rather, hmm.
Consequences for them and you, Mr. President.
And the journalism says they like you.
They like your agenda.
I find it ironic that on this.
I mean, listen to that.
The Wall Street Journal.
They like your agenda.
The Wall Street Journal.
So now you can go, oh, we don't ever have to listen.
So if we could just, this is who the Wall Street Journal is, America.
They're in bed with Trump's agenda.
Just so you know, like people don't realize how nefarious and anti-American Wall Street is, the Wall Street Journal, most of the politicians, the pharmaceutical industry, the military-industrial complex.
Those people are not pro-America.
Those people are pro-corporate greed, which is anti-America.
I mean, this is a news organization.
Like, we're watching a clip from a news organization.
The whole concept of the media is to be a watchdog of the powerful.
We are literally watching a clip right now where a journalist is saying to a world leader, hey, you're forgetting we're your friend.
Yeah, that's literally the theme of what this guy's saying.
You're forgetting we're your friend.
Yeah, the news media is here to help you.
The Wall Street Journal wants to help you.
We want to help you.
That's what they say.
That's a good catch, Ron.
All right, back to him.
73rd anniversary of D-Day.
Some of your most ardent backers are desperately girding for another battle.
Not for normity, for normalcy, for sticking to an agenda that matters and not silly distractions that do not.
That is what your most ardent supporters are pushing for, for you to keep pushing.
They want you signing legislation, not settling endless scores.
They're not saying never let them see you tweet.
They are saying never let them see you sweat.
Remember, no one ever said that Harry Truman didn't have a temper or that Ronald Reagan, a long memory.
They just preferred giving their critics hell than telling them to go to hell.
Now, just because your own critics never thought that you'd make it to the White House does not mean you shouldn't listen to those who want you to thrive and succeed in the White House.
They're not the problem, Mr. President.
Like I said, these days, you are.
Wow.
So that's big news to that.
Should be big news to the Democrats.
And what the Democrats will respond with is Russia.
Russia.
No solutions to anyone's problems.
And they're still doing it, which is why I'm a draft Bernie guy.
I mean, I'm all for primary and corporate Democrats, too.
I mean, we got to get the corporate money out of power.
That's what I'm for.
I think the quickest way to that right now is draft Bernie.
We'll see what happens.
What do you think?
I mean, that's pretty stunning, right?
That this is Fox News.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
And the fact that it's on Fox News means Trump will actually see it.
So hopefully he doesn't take the advice and stuff starts getting done.
Because, I mean, I agree on a number of levels.
I don't think it's a good idea to impeach him because I think, you know, if he gets impeached tomorrow, then the Republicans have enough time to distance themselves from Trump.
And then President Pence, we'd probably have him again in 2020.
So that would be pretty bad.
And it's a far greater risk.
And yeah, as far as what to do moving forward, I support all of the above approach too.
I support what Justice Democrats are doing.
I support what brand new Congress is doing because in the short term, I think that's important.
But in the long term, I think the two-party system's over.
I think it's a really broken system that is going to keep giving us flat tires.
So I want to see a new third party.
I would love to see a strong third party.
Well, we're going to find out if it's possible.
We're certainly going to find out if it's possible because I don't, believe me, people are not going to vote for the corporate Democrats, even if Trump's in the White House.
They didn't vote for Hurler freaking the last time.
Okay, so just keep that in mind.
With every media outlet pushing Hillary Clinton, I mean, mainstream establishment, of course, not right-wing, but and the entire Democratic.
I mean, she had every establishment, every person in the world on her side.
She even had Republicans on her side.
She had Republicans.
Remember, she was lining up neocons, Henry Kissinger and Negro Ponte.
She had neocons backing her.
Couldn't get it done.
So we do need a third party.
And hopefully the third party crushes the Democrats and we never see them again.
So good luck.
I think this is bigger news than people want to let on.
And also just watch the corporate Democrats.
They're slimy, man.
They're really slimy.
They're going to try to take this and just talk about impeachment so they don't have to change at all.
So they don't have to do any self-reflection.
They don't have to get court.
They don't have to actually help you.
That's what I'm talking about.
So thank you, Neil Cavuto.
Hey, George, it's Jimmy Door.
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