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May 28, 2016 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show!
So, Senator Sanders, it's good to talk to you.
I'm eating my lunch.
Who is this?
This is Jimmy Dore.
Looking forward to seeing you today at the Young Turks.
Listen, I want to talk.
I don't put my corned beef down for many people, but I'll do it for you, Jimmy.
Okay, listen, I wanted to.
I'm still going to chew this bike, though.
Okay, listen, I wanted to ask you about, I heard that Donald Trump and you kind of tenderly agree to do a debate in California.
Now, you know, Trump is not, he's going to back out of that, right?
Well, we don't know exactly what's going to happen.
Right.
But I stated before, I'm happy to debate anyone, anytime.
This election, like all elections, to me, is about who has the set of ideas that's going to appeal to the American people.
There's no better way to suss those out than a debate.
I agree.
Even if it's with an orange maniac.
So that's my point right now.
So how do you think you think you'd be able to remain civil on the same stage with Donald Trump?
No.
Well, then, doesn't that mean that you're going to?
I know.
Well, doesn't that mean you're going to...
If I dealt with him the way he wanted to be dealt with, I would look terrible.
Yeah, well, what I'm saying is— A little?
No, I don't know.
A little what?
They want to see a tempest.
They want to see a little drama.
Oh, sure.
Well, there's a, well, here's the thing.
You know, you don't, I think you don't want to let him drag you down to his level, right?
Because there's that old saying.
I won't let that happen.
I just won't put up with his horseshit.
There's a difference.
Okay, I hear you.
Well, what if he says to you that he calls you crazy Bernie?
I was at his rally yesterday.
He refers to you as crazy Bernie.
Hey, Jimmy.
Charlie Manston said you're not funny.
I bet that stings.
Who gives a shit?
Hey, Jimmy, Carson Daly says you lack charisma.
Who cares?
By the way, did you know he still has a TV show on after Seth Myers?
I know.
That's crazy, right?
Did you know Carson Daly's television?
How does shit like this slip through the clock?
I have no idea.
If you do debate Donald Trump, you have a strategy.
Yes.
What?
What's that strategy?
Loar him into where he does not know what he's talking about.
Hold him accountable for all the insane things that he said.
He'll fold like a folding chair.
And I'll sit in him and order a pina kiwana.
And that'll be the last 20 minutes of the debate.
Listen, Bernie, good luck with the with in the debate if it happens.
And I'll see you later on today.
I can't wait to see you again there in the Young Turk studio.
I hope we get a picture.
That would be great.
I'll make sure it's extra toothy for you.
Okay.
That thing where you see the top row of my teeth when I'm smiling.
Right.
That's a big one.
I'll give you an extra one.
My little nub.
Okay.
I appreciate it.
You've been nothing but supportive, and I won't forget it.
I appreciate that, Bernie.
I really do.
And I hope to see you at the convention, too.
I hope so, too.
Let's nuzzle.
Okay.
We'll nuzzle.
All right.
Bye, buddy.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
The show for...
...the kind of people that are...
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's hard to talk to you, Kali.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore!
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore show.
I am joined in the studio by our resident Latina.
You know her from the miserable liberal.
It's Steph Zamarano.
Hey, Steph, how are you?
I'm doing great, and I'm still here.
She's still here.
You have not been deported by Obama or Trump.
Good for you.
All right.
Also with us, former writer for the Daily Show, the author of Morning Remembrance, fake obituaries of real dead people.
It's Am Radio's Jim Earl.
Hey, Jim.
Hey, thanks a lot, Jimmy.
You have a very charismatic personality.
Oh, thank you so much.
Also with us is Hank Thompson.
Hank, how are you?
Trump.
Okay.
Right now, let's get to some of the jokes before we get to the joke.
Oh, let's get to the jokes, right?
Oh, here's some more hypocrisy.
Ready?
Did you know that most of the tinfoil made for the hats that Trump supporters wear, manufactured in China?
Oh, the irony.
Oh, the irony.
Did anybody watch that entourage movie?
I missed that one.
I watched...
I was watching the girls.
I watched the Entourage movie on HBO this week.
So let's just face it, I have no right to tell anyone how they should live their life.
That's the joke there.
You know, I agree with right-wingers.
A psycho with an assault weapon, much less dangerous than a transgender person who needs to peep.
It's true.
Did you know that the next frontier for conservatives is making sure that transgender bears don't shit in the woods?
Did you know that?
That's their next.
Because you don't know.
Hey, Bill Cosby.
You know what?
I don't know about you, but I hope Bill Cosby does stand up again.
Because I hear they have a great open mic at the prison he's going to.
Am I right?
Am I right?
Well, zip, blah, blah, blah, zip.
Rudy, what the boo.
It's going to be a bringer.
It's a bringer.
Yes, it is a bringer show.
You know, a lot of registered Republicans are white nationalists, Trump supporters, or as they're also known, Trump supporters.
Yeah.
Orange nationalists.
I don't want to end on that joke, but that's where we're going to end it.
What's coming up on today's show?
We're going to take a look at Hillary Clinton.
Her numbers are going down.
Guess whose fault it is?
Bernie Sanders.
We're going to talk about that.
The women on the view are upset with Bernie Sanders for not being nicer to the candidate they support.
We're going to talk about that.
Plus, the Wall Street Gordon Gecko, the Gordon Gecko of Wall Street, Asher Edelman is back on the show.
He's going to tell us about bribery in our political system in America.
Plus, we're going to take a look at bribery in Americans' political system.
Let's see what else we're going to talk about today.
Because I forgot.
Oh, I take a look at Josh Barrow from the New York Times.
Well, actually, who does he write for now?
He writes for the Business Insider now, Josh Barrow.
He says, don't freak out about the fact that Hillary Clinton's already losing to the most hated politician in the world.
Don't freak out about it.
We're going to talk about that.
Plus, John McCain.
He's upset that people are running his campaign ads on YouTube.
Uh-huh.
That sounds counterintuitive.
Yeah, it is.
So we're going to talk about that.
Plus, how is Trump polling with veterans?
The answer just may surprise you, or will it?
Plus, we got phone calls today from Brock Obama.
Bill Cosby calls in.
Wow.
Wow.
Plus, Ron Paul, and a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
you So when it comes to money in politics, who knows more about money and politics than Gordon Gecko?
If you remember who Gordon Gecko was, he was the guy from the movie Wall Street, played by Michael Douglas, who went on to get throat cancer from eating too much of his wife.
You know, I got it, recently came down with a similar thing with my throat.
Well, I guess that's what I get for filling my girlfriend's vagina up with uranium-239.
What's I think?
And it's a powerfully unstable element.
And if you'd like to hear Michael Douglas talk about that incident, there's a phone call out there that he called in.
We have it somewhere.
Maybe we'll point to it.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That was based on the real-life guy named S. So Gordon Gecko was based on Asher Edelman, who's a big investor guy, Wall Street investor guy.
He was kind of like Mitt Romney in a sense, that he would come in, buy companies, bankrupt them, sell them off, stuff like that.
So he was one of the guys that they based that character, Gordon Gecko, on.
So I'm watching a now this video, and guess what who they're talking to?
They're talking to Asther Edelman, the Gordon Gecko of Wall Street.
And listen to what he is, what he says, what's wrong with politics today.
It's kind of interesting.
Days of Reagan Forward, we've had a pretty massive, I like to call it really something other than corruption, but we've had a pretty massive accepted corruption.
Our political system has gone to, I guess I could call it bribery, but it's legal bribery, where politicians receive great amounts of money, both for their campaigns and great amounts of pleasure from lobbyists in return for certain favors.
And this time around, we have one candidate who is probably the queen of receiving money.
It goes back as far as her days in Arkansas before Bill became president.
And there's a long, consistent situation where every major industry in America has paid this lady.
I include the pharmaceutical, the insurance, Wall Street, the military companies.
All of these have been behind Hillary, and she supports all of these.
And it makes it very, very difficult to reverse the income preferences that have been given to the richer people in America.
And I doubt very much he wants to.
She's been paid not to.
Bernie has every intention of stopping the crime that goes on in the banks.
And I believe that this is a man who is sincere, who is not particularly there for the money he might make later, who is not there because he has to have power.
I think he's there for the good of the nation.
And I do not believe the other two are.
Bernie will accomplish things in these areas.
I think he has the support of the young, intelligent people, and the old, boring, conservative people who are selfish and who want everything for themselves will not have the say with Bernie, and they haven't bought Bernie that these other people have.
Bernie's not going to lay out $15 trillion to save the banks when the people got fewer than 500 million.
Okay?
Who saved the people?
Bernie's going to probably, if the economy doesn't get going, he will figure out a way to give a trillion or two, not give, but to get a trillion or two going in the economy again, rebuilding the economy, but not for the purpose of making the banks profitable.
Do you know that the Federal Reserve gives approximately $20 billion a year gratuitously to the handful of banks that are members of the Federal Reserve, and there is no function that they fill as members of the Federal Reserve.
So we talked about that on this show.
So all that's great stuff.
So there's, now imagine if you turn on the TV every now, you go, wow, how come I don't see Asther Edelman on TV more often?
Really?
You think they're going to put that guy on TV who's going to tell you that the whole system is corrupt?
That what Bernie Sanders is telling you is true?
That we do live in crony capitalism and that it's set up for you to be screwed.
And no matter how hard you work, you're not going to get ahead in American immunity.
You think they're going to have that guy on?
Do you think he's going to, hey, you know, our next president is taking money from every major industry in the world?
He's taking it.
Military, industrial, Wall Street, big pharma, doesn't matter.
And he said, you heard him from the days going forward.
This used to be called bribery.
This is bribery, illegal bribery.
So there's a sickness in the system.
And Bernie Sanders has identified it.
And it's just amazing to see the establishment come at him and people who are blind to it, people who think that the media isn't against Bernie Sanders.
They're just blind to it.
Because why don't we hear this?
Because this is the truth.
And you never hear this.
What do you hear?
You hear stuff like the, you hear stuff like Andrea Mitchell saying, why don't you drop out?
You have people like the HuffPull Live guy saying Bernie Sanders is fairy dust.
You have people like Joy Behar on The View saying, why are you criticizing Hillary Clinton?
It's like saying, why are you criticizing a corrupt system?
That's what that's like saying.
And here is Gordon Gecko laying it down for us how corrupt our system is, how it's broken it is from the days of Reagan forward is what he said.
From the days of Reagan forward.
And here we are.
Working class hasn't gotten a raise since the days of Reagan.
Isn't that amazing?
Although production has skyrocketed.
Corporate profits are at all-time high.
$15 trillion to the banks, nothing for Main Street.
He's outlining the problem.
So here it is.
Let's see if he's got anything more to say.
...that they wouldn't fill as non-members of the Federal Reserve.
So these things need to end, and I think that obviously Wall Street is not interested in these things ending because they get the money, and Bernie won't give them the money.
And I believe that all of the issues that Bernie has approached, and I don't say that he really understands every one of them completely.
I think he has the right idea, and he'll get the right people behind him.
But all of the issues that Bernie talks about will lead us back to a productive economy for the middle classes down to the poor.
And all of the issues that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump approach will bring us back to the Clinton-Reagan era or the Obama era.
He has accomplished none of this himself.
And also, he has been a warrior, a hidden warrior.
Do you know that this country never tortured people before W?
Yeah.
It really didn't.
And now we have Donald Trump talking about torture being just fine.
And I don't hear Hillary talking about it not being fine.
And I still see Guantanamo open, so Obama didn't do very much.
He talked about it, but he didn't do very much.
But Bernie also probably will not spend his life being a failed warrior.
If you think about America from the Second World War on, let us start with Vietnam or Korea or wherever you want to start.
We've never really won a war.
So why are we having wars?
We've never won a war.
When we leave, even if we say we've won and W said we won, what happens after?
Nothing that we might have wanted, and usually it gets worse.
I don't think Bernie's going to do that.
I think Hillary's going to do that.
She's a warrior.
We all know that.
She likes to go to war.
That's her modus operandi in the past.
But Bernie, it's not his modus operandi.
I don't think.
I just don't understand why we don't hear this guy on television more often.
Why isn't this guy on TV?
Why do I got to go to a...
We got to come to YouTube.
That's why people come to YouTube.
Because if you go to MSNBC, you're going to have Hillary Clinton saying Bernie Sanders supporters are like Trump supporters throwing chairs and they're violent.
Tis, tisk, tisk.
And if you go to MSNBC, you have Andrea Mitchell saying, hey, Bernie, why don't you drop by?
What do you do?
Why are you criticizing him?
If you go to ABC, you'll have him saying the same thing.
It's all go to CNN.
We know they're the seventh largest donor to Hillary Clinton.
I mean, come on.
So thanks, Gordon Gecko.
Once again, this is his second appearance on our show.
Gordon Gecko comes on and lays it down.
Again, gives you the straight dope, gives you the truth.
Everything he said is absolutely, everyone knows it's true.
No one's going to disagree with anything he just said there.
People will say, well, Barack Obama couldn't close Guantanamo.
He tried.
It was the Republicans.
Okay.
All right.
I'll give you that one.
Barack Obama would, if he could, he would close it.
Now, why wouldn't you just go ahead?
So he just said Hillary and Trump are going to bring us back to nothing.
The same, what's wrong?
That's what's wrong.
And they're saying, now, Bernie Sanders people, you've identified the problem.
Now, when are you going to support it?
That's what they're saying.
Now, you guys have identified the problem and we know what it is.
And things are wrecked.
And 50% of all wage earners in America earn less than $30,000.
People still go bankrupt when they get sick.
And college kids are in debt up to their eyeballs.
And we have the biggest income disparity since the Gilded Age.
And now we know what the problem.
You guys going to get behind and support more of that?
When are you guys going to support more of that?
More war.
How about more war?
We bombed seven different Muslim countries on 9-11.
You guys want some more of that?
One of you guys who are, you've identified the problem.
When are you going to support it?
That's what they're asking Bernie Sanders people to do is to support it.
So here, who rules America is the headline from this article from The Hill.
But this was from 2014.
They did a study at Princeton.
And it was called, it's a jaw-clenching title is how it's referred to, a jaw-clenching title titled, Testing Theories of American Politics, colon, elites, interest groups, and average citizens.
So the authors of this, it's Martin Gillens of Princeton and Benjamin Page of Northwestern.
They examined all the study.
What did they come up with?
They found that normal people have absolutely no influence in their government and what laws gets passed and that money controls it.
You want to see how bad money controls it?
Here's a video.
Explain it to you.
Here we go.
I'm going to explain some of it to you right here.
So right now we're going to show you a graph.
Let's listen to this graph.
It shows you the influence of money in politics.
Follow along, please.
This axis here represents public support for any given idea.
On the left, at 0%, are ideas that not a single American wants.
On the right, at 100%, are ideas that everyone supports.
This axis represents the likelihood of Congress passing a law that reflects any of these ideas from a zero to a 100% chance.
On this graph, an ideal republic would look like this.
If 50% of the public supports an idea, there's a 50% chance of it becoming law.
If 80% of us support something, there's an 80% chance.
You get the idea.
Now, most Americans would probably agree that with a few exceptions, we should be as close to this ideal as possible.
Unfortunately, the way America actually works doesn't even come close.
Take an idea that nobody supports.
Literally nobody has about a 30% chance of becoming federal law.
Now, take an incredibly popular idea, the most popular idea this country has ever seen, and there's also about a 30% chance of it becoming law.
Like the public option.
When we wanted to get that into the Obamacare, remember the public option?
Everybody was for it.
Everybody wanted the public option.
Meaning that if you're a citizen, you can buy health insurance from the government.
You can buy into Medicare.
That's the public option.
Then you soak, oh, that was very popular.
Didn't get it.
Why?
Money didn't want it.
That's just one example.
This means that the number of American voters for or against any idea has no impact on the likelihood that Congress will make it law.
Put another way, and I'm just going to quote the Princeton study directly here.
The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.
So if you've ever felt like your opinion doesn't matter and that the government doesn't really care what you think, well, you're right.
I'm actually encouraged by those results.
I thought it was much worse.
That was much worse.
Yeah.
So, but whose opinion does matter?
Whose opinion does matter?
Let's see whose opinion does matter.
Whose opinion does get put into law?
But there's a catch.
This flat line only accounts for the bottom 90% of income earners in America.
Economic elites, business interests, people who can afford lobbyists, they get their own line.
Look at how much closer their line is to the ideal.
When they want something, the government is much more likely to do it.
And when they don't, they have the power to completely block it from happening, no matter how much the rest of the country supports it.
They get what they want, and guess who ends up paying for it?
We pay for it with the most expensive healthcare in the world.
We pay for it with a tax code that's a complete mess.
We pay for it with internet that's slower and more expensive, with wasteful spending, a floundering education system, a catastrophic drug war, and one in five American children born into poverty.
Almost every major issue we face as a nation can be traced back to this graph.
And so, what they're saying right now, all over the mainstream media, is: hey, the people who have identified this problem and want to fix it, when are you going to start supporting it more?
Because that's what they're saying to Bernie Sanders and his supporters.
Like, we all know this is the problem.
That's why we have all those problems.
That's why we have messed up schools.
That's why we have the biggest income disparity since the Gilded Age.
That's why we have this drug war that everyone knows is a mistake, yet we still keep spending millions and billions of dollars on it.
Everyone knows it's a mistake.
Everyone knows it wrecks our society.
Everyone knows we have more people in prison than China.
We have 5% of the world's population.
We incarcerate 25% of the world's prisoners.
It's in the freest country in the world.
You don't think this has something to do with it?
Of course it does.
That's why all this, all this stuff, why we have the worst health care in the industrialized world with the worst outcomes and pay twice as much.
And so finally, somebody's coming along to do something about it, Bernie Sanders, and look what the establishment media is doing to him.
Look what they do.
Hey, when are you going to shut up?
What are your fairy dust?
Everyone knows that we have live in a corrupt country and we can't have nice things.
I mean, if you're rich, you can.
If you're a millionaire, if you're a donor, if you can hire lobbyists, if you can hire a lot.
So, how do laws get passed?
Here's how laws get passed.
They're going to break it down for you right here.
Here's how laws get passed.
This is how a bill becomes a law.
A special interest hires some lobbyists.
Those lobbyists collect campaign contributions, offer jobs, and then write the laws that Congress then passes to help those same special interests.
This happens every day on every single issue with politicians of both parties.
In the last five years alone, the 200 most politically active companies in the United States spent $5.8 billion influencing your government.
Those same companies got $4.4 trillion in taxpayer support.
And that's a trillion with a T. And that's just the top 200 companies.
Never mind every other special interest, every union, every trade association, and every billionaire.
Every single one of them can use their money to buy political influence.
You know, there's this idea out there that this only became a problem after the Supreme Court Citizens United decision in 2010.
But the data goes back almost 40 years, and the results are clear.
Corruption is legal in America.
And as long as it is, anyone who can spend money to buy political influence will.
The solution here isn't rocket science.
Solution is not rocket science.
Solution is to get money out of politics, which is Bernie Sanders' idea.
We need somebody to go to Washington and say, cut it out.
And say, cut it out to Wall Street.
So I encourage everyone to watch that movie, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, because it's kind of like what's happening right now to Bernie Sanders.
That's kind of what's happening, right?
So all the money is against him, and everyone's trying to make him look crazy.
And all he has to rely on are the people.
I don't remember.
If you remember, Mr. Smith goes to Washington, he has these bags of letters that he throws all over the Senate floor.
Look at all the people support people support me.
And they're like, who cares?
The money doesn't.
And we're going to screw you over.
And that's exactly what's happening with Bernie Sanders.
And people wonder why, hey, why aren't there more Bernie Sanders out there?
I don't know.
Maybe because when someone actually has integrity and is a truth teller, all the money interests line up against him.
And they try to, they're telling you right now that the most liberal senator in the country somehow is a racist and a misogynist and he's violent and he's this and he's that.
He's an agitator and he and he wants to ruin things.
That's why.
This is what's happening.
So here you go.
This is the problem.
We all see it.
There's no doubt about it.
There's no, this isn't like a debate.
This isn't a matter of opinion.
And so when you see those trolls on the internet, they say, do you have any evidence of Hillary Clinton being corrupt?
The whole goddamn system's corrupt and she's the leader.
That's again, that's Democrats arguing like Bush supporters.
They're illogical.
They make no sense.
They sound dumber than a box of rocks.
You could drive a truck through their logic.
What do you have any?
The whole system is that's why he says we need a revolution.
He doesn't come out and say we need to get rid of one person.
He says the system is corrupt.
Beep.
Phone ringing.
Hello.
Jimmy, something terrible has happened, and I want you to hear it from me first.
Liam Neeson, is that you?
Wake up.
I need you to be focused.
Listen very closely.
Yes?
Something terrible has happened.
And it looks like I did it.
Did what?
I missed your last podcast.
I'm literally kicking myself right now.
Ow!
Watch the kidneys.
You're literally kicking.
Liam, you don't have to kick yourself.
You can get all of our shows on my website and YouTube.
I don't like the ads.
They're very annoying.
They pop up with important information about products I need to buy, and that irritates me.
You know, I'm sorry about that.
Never mind that now, Jimmy.
I need you to pay close attention.
Time is of the essence.
I don't know why.
I don't know who, but I will find out.
Find out what?
How you got so gosh darn smart.
Your mind is like a house filled with the laughter of children.
It must be protected at all costs.
Well, thank you, Liam, but you don't have to say that, buddy.
What do you think this is?
Some kind of a sick game?
Put your fine wife on the line for a second.
What?
Do it now.
Hi, Mr. Neeson.
It's me, Stephanie.
Stephanie, this is Liam.
I need you to stay focused.
Is there a medium-sized container of sugar in your kitchen?
I suppose so.
Try adding a ball bag of rice to the bottom of the container.
It will keep the sugar from clumping.
Thank you.
Don't thank me.
I could have done more.
So much more.
Okay, but Jimmy really handles all of the cooking and everything.
Put Jimmy back on the line and try not to arouse suspicion.
Suspicion of what?
Just do it.
Liam, since I have you on the phone, can I ask you a question about the election?
Sure, but I think we both know what will happen.
What?
I will come for you, and I will find you.
And I will inquire about your fine selection of merchandise, including those don't freak out t-shirts that come in a variety of sizes, all of them fat.
I mean, come on.
You got small, medium, large, extra-large, and extra, extra-large.
You got three larges to only two non-larges.
You don't even have a normal size, for God's sake.
Okay, okay, I get it.
America has a weight problem.
You people ever hear of broccoli?
Yes, Liam, we have.
It's an edible green plant in the cabbage family.
Yes, I know.
First cultivated in the Mediterranean in the 6th century B.C. Liam, who are you backing for president?
I'm putting my full support behind Fitzgerald Lairn of Carrickfergus, north of Dungannon.
Okay, thanks, goodbye.
They grow broccoli there.
Don't hang up on me.
Okay.
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thanks for making this show possible so please I'm humbled by your support but I'll see you over at jimmydoorcomedy.com click on the indiegogo and let's get this done so we're talking about money and politics we all know the corrosive effect of money in politics it turns out your government works for its donors and not its voters right so that's what's been happening that's why after sandy hook 90 of americans wanted some kind of gun legislation and we didn't get it and
And that's because government is responsive to its donors and not its voters.
OK, that's what's happening.
And that's why that's what Bernie Sanders has identified as the problem and wants to change it.
And everyone else who's not voting for him is ignoring the problem.
OK, so George Will has a different take on this.
Everybody wants to get money out of politics.
Even Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agreed that money is a problem in politics.
Let's see what George Will has to say about it.
Yeah, I'm going to guess it's wrong.
Campaign finance reform is what it pretends to combat.
Corruption.
Hey, I don't know if you ever heard about a thing called doublespeak.
Yes, campaign finance reform is corruption and war is peace.
That's right.
War is peace.
And I got one more joke.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
And ignorance is strength.
It's one to land that joke extra hard.
OK, here we go.
He's got some more to say.
Say that again, slightly rephrased.
Campaign finance reform corrupts the political system.
It presumes to save from corruption.
Now that that's right.
And pillows hurt your head.
We all know this.
They claim to be supporting your head.
But we all know when you put your head on a pillow, it jams it in like an ice pick.
I'm George Will.
OK.
I've taken the trouble to repeat myself.
You may be shaking your head, wondering how I could be so wrong.
No, I want to shake your head, George.
I don't want to shake my head.
I want to shake your head.
OK.
Don't we want to get money out of politics?
Isn't campaign finance reform an inherent good?
The late Senator Eugene McCarthy, the iconic liberal politician of the Vietnam War era, didn't think so.
McCarthy, a Democrat who represented Minnesota in the Senate from 1959 to 1971.
By the way, George Will can only deal with the present by living in the past.
Using the example of Eugene McCarthy from 50 years ago, whose election landscape has nothing to do with the current system we're living in.
A system where the richest handful of people determine which ideas and candidates are viable.
We'll always make a mess like Stan Laurel and oligarchy Hardy.
OK, here we go.
Did something unthinkable in 1968.
Because of his opposition to the Vietnam War, he challenged a powerful incumbent president for his party's presidential nomination.
His challenge to President Lyndon Johnson was possible and potent only because five wealthy liberals who shared McCarthy's opposition to the Vietnam War gave
him substantial sums of money stewart mott's 210 000 would be 1.4 million in today's dollars the five donors seed money enabled mccarthy to raise 11 million dollars or 75 million dollars today but because of campaign finance reform the most a wealthy quintet could give to help an insurgent against an incumbent today would be 13 000 five times the individual limit
of twenty six hundred dollars mccarthy didn't win the nomination but of course now he's leaving out lots and lots and lots of things right like the thing he's leaving out is yeah he's talking about the direct personal money you can hand to someone but we've gotten rid of all those rules now why you give money to the money to the um to the committee to the democratic national committee or the republican national committee or you start a super pack and you give money to the super pack which isn't supposed to coordinate but we all know they do.
So you're really just giving the money right to the person.
So all this stuff he's saying is incorrect.
I'm not, right?
He's completely 100% wrong about, I mean, he's right about what he's saying, but he's leaving out the important part, which is that there's a lot more money in politics than he's lighting on right now.
Yeah, the important part is it would make the playing field level.
Yeah, he's saying if you get, he's saying if you get money out of politics, all we'll be left with is politics.
Oh, that would be horrible.
Here we go.
Well, also, his data convinces me to get rid of money out of politics when he shows how much that money would be in this day of age.
Contrasted.
That's the point why we should probably get money out of politics.
Yeah, he didn't compel people.
Go ahead.
He's saying, look how much they influenced an insurgent campaign influenced them back then.
And if they could only give $13,000, that would be a tragedy.
They couldn't influence them as much.
Right.
Right.
Am I reading that?
That's what he's saying.
That is what he's saying.
Okay.
That would be a tragedy.
They wouldn't have as much influence, these billionaires.
Yeah.
And another point is that would have been one of the tiny instances where the wealthy were in tune with the rest of the country for its welfare.
Right.
And it's actually embarrassing that Bernie has to raise so much money to beat the system that he has to.
It's impressive, and he brags about the individual donors and all that.
But we shouldn't have to spend as much as he has to.
And he's unfortunately required to use the system in order to try to take it down this way.
So what he's saying is the Johnson not to run for a second term.
In doing so, McCarthy changed history.
But the Democratic Party establishment wasn't happy about it.
To stop it from happening again, they pushed for government regulation of political speech.
Thus, in reaction to Eugene McCarthy's insurgency, campaign finance reform was born.
Not much has changed since then.
Whatever their stated intentions, campaign finance laws are not written to protect the public from corrupt politicians.
They are written to protect incumbents from anyone who might challenge them.
So not only doesn't campaign finance reform disrupt the status quo, it encases it in cement.
All the laws that ever have regulated campaigns or ever will regulate them have had or will have one thing in common.
They have been or will be written by incumbent legislators.
So what he's basically trying to say is that the reason why incumbents keep getting elected is because of the way they have the campaign finance set up right now.
And if we could just get more money into the politics, we could get rid of those incumbents.
And so what he's arguing for is more money in politics right now.
Let me just give you the first of all, this is called legalized bribery.
Okay.
That's what this is.
Money in politics is bribery.
Here's money.
Do what I say.
So in over 90% of the elections in America, the candidate with the most amount of money wins.
Nothing to see here.
No problem.
Nothing to see.
Shows over, folks.
90%, nine out of 10 elections, the guy with the most money wins.
And he's saying that that's not a problem.
He's saying we need more money.
That's what he's saying.
Anyway, okay, here we go.
Why doesn't he mention Robert Kennedy, who had a crapload of money as well, influencing right?
He doesn't, right?
Kennedy was widely considered the reason LBJ quit.
That is why such laws are presumptively disreputable and usually unconstitutional.
But reformers shout: politicians are bought and sold by big money interests, and we have to stop this.
These reformers argue two propositions.
One is that corruption is so pervasive and so subtle that it is invisible.
First of all, we already showed you in our other video that this isn't a theory, that money corrupts politicians, that money corrupts the lawmaking process, that if 100% of the people in America want a law passed, but 100% of the donors don't, it doesn't get passed.
Just like we talked about with Sandy Hook.
Everybody wanted gun legislation.
90% of Americans wanted something.
Nothing got done.
So that's what we're talking about.
Again, he's turning, to be this kind of ideology, you have to turn logic on its head, which is what George Will does.
But since he looks like a nerd, nobody thinks he's as crazy as he is, because this is bad crazy.
Here we go.
They resemble the zealots who say proof of the conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy is the fact that no proof has been found.
Nope.
No proof has been found.
He's saying there's no proof of how money is corrupting politics.
He's literally saying that now.
He's got the falls to say that after the $15 trillion bank bailout, after the $80 billion a month in quantitative easing, that corruption is invisible.
It's not invisible.
It's right there out in the open.
What are you talking about?
It's not invisible.
Nobody should listen to the George Will of the people.
That's my pun.
And his idea, his argument that money only goes to politicians to whom the donor already agrees.
Let's get to that.
Alternatively, reformers argue that corruption is entirely visible everywhere.
If politician A votes in a way that pleases contributor B, particularly if contributor B enjoyed access to politician A, that shall be designated corruption.
But there is abundant research demonstrating that money almost always moves toward the politician with whom the contributor already agrees.
In other words, money is rarely given in order to change a politician's votes.
It is given in order to support politicians who already vote the way donors want them to.
So George's argument that money only goes to politicians to whom the donor already agrees proves that George Will is this week's world's shittiest detective.
Politicians need to attract money.
Politicians need to attract money.
Money doesn't need to attract politicians.
Okay?
That's how it works the other way.
Politicians need the money.
Money doesn't need to attract them.
All right.
And this isn't about free speech.
This is about paid speech.
This is, again, this is a grown-up person with a straight face saying that there's no corruption in our system and that all the money in the world in politics, we need more money in politics.
Nevertheless, reformers increasingly argue, see their justification for restricting political action committees or PACs, that regulating the timing, amount, and content of political advocacy is necessary to improve the tone of politics.
These reformers apparently think that what James Madison, the author of the Bill of Rights, meant when he wrote, Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech, was really Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech unless incumbents think abridgments will help keep them in office.
Okay, this isn't free speech.
This is about paid speech.
There's a big difference.
This isn't about free speech.
This is about paid.
This is about money.
It's about buying airtime.
This is about free speech.
Even if it were Congress's business to decide that there is too much money in politics, what does too much mean?
In the 2007-2008 election cycle, spending in all campaigns, from city council members up to the presidency, was $8.6 billion, about what Americans spend annually on potato chips.
Reformers say that regulation of campaign giving and spending will not only spare our leaders the distraction of the governed, that is, seeking undue influence on government, it also will make us think better of government.
But a jaundiced view of government is often sensible, and certainly it is justified by all these campaign regulations, which have become a particularly virulent form of the disease it purports to cure.
So let me repeat myself a third and final time.
Oh, God.
So George Will wines, what does too much mean?
Well, $8.8 point something billion dollars in an election cycle.
It was Hillary Clinton's campaign goal to raise over a billion dollars for this election cycle.
Does that sound like too many potato chips for you, George?
A billion dollars?
How many bags of chips do you want for your Koch brothers exactly?
Corporations are people, but George Will is barely human.
We know that.
His lack of understanding of human nature's corruptibility is as big as the taxpayers' bailout of the Wall Street banks.
I think he's got a point.
Yesterday, a bag of potato chips told me I couldn't marry a man.
You know, when you see a cartoon with George Will arguing for money in politics by bringing up the Kennedy assassination and potato chips, you know you're dealing with an intellectual heavyweight.
So the argument is money undermines the money undermines the one person, one vote.
That it does, okay?
Because the billionaire's money is more powerful than a single person's vote.
Keep that in mind.
Billionaires spend money to make more money.
The more money the billionaire makes from buying politicians, the more money he'll have to buy more politicians.
Politicians will have to compete with other politicians who serve money and have more money for campaigning, thus limiting politics that do not serve money.
Hey, if you can buy influence, you influence.
So there we go.
There's George Will.
Let's hear him say it one more time.
Campaign finance reform is what it pretends to combat.
So George Will, we got it all wrong.
We need more money in politics, you guys.
You know what's going to fix the problem with Hillary Clinton?
If she would have, instead of getting $300,000 for a speech, if she would have got $600,000, I think things would be better off.
We'd be finally helping the poor.
We'd all be getting that free college that we wanted.
Wars would end.
If we had more money in politics.
So this is, and someone paid him to say this stuff.
He writes this stuff.
People pay for his opinion.
He should go on the view.
I think they'd really like him on there with his logic.
Anybody else?
I think it'd be nice to pay Hillary $250,000 just to release one of those speeches.
Yeah, I would.
George Will belongs in room 101.
So I just want to wrap up what George Will is actually saying is that we need to get we have a system right now run by incumbents.
And in order to, and what they're doing is they're writing the campaign finance laws.
And that's why they keep getting re-elected because they control the money.
And well, we've got to be able to bring in outside money.
Well, we're able to do that right now, George.
And we still have 90% incumbent re-election.
So your argument has no legs to stand on.
You're saying that the reason why these people keep getting re-elected is because we have strict finance campaign finance laws.
We don't.
We don't have any right now.
It's wide open.
He's pretending we do.
We have the Citizens United, which opened the floodwides.
We had McCutcheon decision.
So the problem is that there isn't a stopgap for money in politics right now.
That's the problem.
We have super PACs.
We have all those things.
And under your system of unlimited money in politics, which is what we have right now, we have 90% of those incumbents being re-elected.
So again, you have to twist your mind.
This is the kind of mind twisting that you have to do to be a Republican or a conservative and still try to, this is what this is.
And or a Hillary supporter.
Apparently, those people don't think money influences politics.
They're all for it.
So that's why we have the broken system we have, because this is the kind of logic that gets passed off as not crazy.
I'm always comforted when a millionaire tells me that money really isn't that important.
Ha ha!
Ah!
Bye.
Thank you.
you So Ron Paul has been calling, trying to do a Hillary Clinton impression.
I think he thinks he's helping out this show.
Anyway, here's Ron Paul calling in.
Hello, who's this?
This is Hillary Clinton.
Are you with me?
Other men are with me.
It's a masculine thing to do, support a woman.
You know, this sounds a lot like Ron Paul.
Oh, heavens, the Betsy, no.
It's Hillary Clinton.
Listen, Ron.
Okay, listen, Rod.
I know what you're trying to do.
You're trying to help us out by doing a Hillary impersonation for the show, but we talked about this.
You don't do a good enough Hillary impersonation.
Well, I just thought it held.
I know.
Well, what was wrong with it?
Was it not shrill enough?
No, it just, it just, we could just tell it's you.
Okay, well, how about this?
I'm working on Donald Trump.
Here we go.
Oh, really?
Let me hear it.
Hey, I'm the greatest in orange.
And vote for me or I'll get my thought, my brown shirt of thugs.
Okay, that doesn't sound any.
Well, fuck you, Jimmy.
Fuck you.
Just trying to help over here.
Okay, I'm sorry, Ron.
I appreciate it.
You know what?
We'll let you.
We'll let you do.
Go ahead.
Do your Hillary.
It was fine.
Hi!
I'm Hillary!
Okay.
I hate Bernie Bros.
Okay.
They're jerks and they're racist.
Vote for me.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Ron.
I've been vetted.
I've been vetted.
Okay, Ron, that's great.
That was great, Brian.
I appreciate it.
Thank you very much, buddy.
I've got a secret torture chamber where all my political enemies end up.
That was great stuff, Ron.
Thank you so much.
I think it's good.
It is good.
It is good.
You know what?
Just maybe we just need to get an actual female.
It's not a big deal.
But thank you so much for doing it.
Well, you know, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know where you're going to find a female.
I don't know where you're going to find a female.
Okay.
All right, Ron.
Thank you, buddy.
Okay.
Ring, ring.
Hello.
Who's this?
Hello?
Mr. Cosby?
Who's this?
It's Jimmy Dore.
I don't know you, but all new people seem to want to just bust my chops so you can zip it and split.
Can I just get a few quotes from you for my internet news program, please?
Okay.
Okay.
So it looks like you'll be standing trial for a sexual assault in 2004.
How do you feel about that?
Just a bunch of flies buzzing around the face.
Swat them around with the flying swatter.
Not bothered by little bugs and the nuts and flies.
So this doesn't concern you at all.
Not a concern in the basket with the eggs and the homini.
Bill Cosby goes on the stand, makes the jury laugh.
That is great.
Gills us talk to cake.
Jury loves the cause.
Put on a glove that doesn't fit.
They vote to acquit.
Kaz goes home, rapes a couple of jurors.
Camille.
So just to be clear, are you saying that you're innocent?
Jimmy Window, pull up your pants.
Talk right.
I already do that.
Be a man.
I am, Mr. Cosby.
I am.
And you know, we don't fish around in the past.
The woman passed.
Men don't do it.
Well, if there are crimes involved, we do.
men do that.
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