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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program, the Jimmy Dore show.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's episode.
As you know, we're in the home stretch, finishing the book.
So, we're going to take another best of show this week.
And we're going to drop some phone calls from Patrick Stewart, Chris Christie.
We're going to talk about Tom Brokaw's new show.
We're going to talk about Anthony Bourdain and his sexist behavior he allowed to happen in front of him.
That was a pretty controversial segment we did on the show when we did that.
So, a lot of best of stuff that we haven't heard, some stuff from the premium content that has never been heard before on the show.
So, we'll be back at it next week with a brand new freshman episode, okay?
So, I appreciate your patience.
Please enjoy the special episode I put together.
I want my heart to be back now.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show, the show for blackbeast.
The kind of people that are saved talking to you, guys.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore!
Governor Chris Christie.
Oh, wow.
I appreciate you taking time out.
Now, Governor, you've heard you're the governor of New Jersey.
Tony Soprano died recently of a heart attack.
What do you have anything to say about that?
Well, no, the great actor James Candolfini died.
Tony Soprano was a character.
He was way more.
He was a great actor.
He was way more than Tony Soprano.
Oh, okay.
I see.
Doesn't this kind of give you pause since a famous New Jersey who's overweight dies young and untimely death at 51?
Yeah, that's why I wanted the flags for the half-best to remind me to eat less.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Well, how is that coming?
How's that coming?
Oh, the whole thing backfired.
I'm trying to comfort myself with food at the moment.
I'm so distraught over the whole thing.
What have you been eating?
What have you been eating?
I had an Italian buffet today.
Oh, you ate at an Italian buffet today?
No, I ate an entire buffet.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Well, what did you have yesterday?
I had a shake for breakfast.
Okay.
A shake for lunch.
and everything in the fucking world for death.
LAUGHTER Oh, okay.
So are you going to have any state ceremonies planned?
Are you going to have a state funeral for James Gandolfini or anything?
We're going to have an Italian wake for him.
Oh, really?
What's an Italian wake?
It's when a bunch of Italians get together and mourn an Italian person to die.
What?
I don't understand.
What?
Oh, you mean what does it entail?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
What does it entail?
That's what I mean.
What does it entail?
There'll be some.
It's a very, it's singing, crying, eating, fighting, wine.
We just get together and express all of our emotions simultaneously.
Oh, okay.
Well, listen, Governor Christie, I appreciate you taking time away from eating to talk to us today.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, good don't remind me.
Hey, did you get Paula Dean on the phone today?
You know, actually, I did.
I'm going to play that call a little later.
What's up with that racist bitch?
You know, I thought you'd be a big fan of hers, actually.
I thought that.
Well, I am a fan of the finishing butters available at Walgreens.
Another thing is, is I'm never finished with butter, so that shit doesn't even make sense.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
I like to put it on my fingers when I'm driving.
You like to put butter on your fingers when you're driving?
It makes the wheel feel like leather.
Okay.
All right.
Well, Governor Chris Christie, I really appreciate you taking time out.
Take care.
We'll talk to you later.
Hey, my pleasure.
Okay.
That was Governor Chris Christie.
Did we have him on the line?
Hello.
Who am I speaking to?
Oh, hi.
This is Jimmy Dore.
Why?
I don't know what.
I don't know what that means, but we're going to talk about you eating your first pizza pizza.
Yes.
Yeah, so you had your first pizza pizza.
So you never had pizza in your whole life?
You've been all over the world?
Why?
To be completely honest with you.
It always struck me as sort of a pedestrian American food.
Pizza?
It's not an American, but it's first of all, pizza isn't American.
It's from Italy.
Even worse.
So I don't know.
I don't know what you mean when you say even worse.
But so you had your pizza.
Yeah, so that's why you tried it?
And I've lived in New York for 10 years, and I didn't want to be in our phone.
Oh.
Okay.
So how was it, though?
Did it taste good to you?
It was.
It was what?
Astounding.
Really?
You liked it that much?
Yes, I can't believe I haven't had one until now.
Yeah, well, again, I'll just the same question.
I can't believe you waited so long.
So how did you eat it?
No.
What?
I don't know.
But I probably, but I added my own toppings.
That probably had something to do with it.
Oh, really?
What did you add as a topic?
Chicago and lava.
Okay.
I don't, that's not good toppings.
And I ate it properly.
You ate it.
You ate it properly.
How does one eat it properly?
Well, the way any epicure tries food for the first time.
First of all, I think it's adorable you use the word epicure, but how did you eat it properly?
Well, the same way any epicure tries food for the first time.
Uh-huh.
How?
You smear it across the perineum of your lover.
Set it on fire.
And then mail it to yourself with your address as the return address so you don't need a stamp.
Okay.
Hey, it doesn't.
You're sounding crazy.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, listen.
I want to talk more about the pizza.
You are a business, bro.
Okay, we're not doing a car commercial.
We're not doing a car commercial.
Garden of a security lie.
Yeah, again, we're not, that's a national card.
We're going to do an internet interview.
Your core competency is competency.
Okay, Patrick Stewart, thank you very much for being on the show.
There was Patrick Stewart.
Huh?
That was great.
We'll be right back.
So let's start off with because it was Memorial Day last Monday, let's start off with Tom Brokaw.
He was on a Sunday show and he was talking.
By the way, Tom Brokaw, our most celebrated newsman in America, our most trusted newsman, now that Tim Russard is dead, Tom Brokaw has got a new show on the military channel because that's where all the great journalists go, the military channel.
He's the only guy, he's the only journalist I know who got an award from the military institution.
And because all the good journalists are beloved by the war machine.
That's what you could tell.
So he's got a new show on the military channel.
This is true.
And it, again, glorifies the warrior, glorifies.
It's the worst thing you could do.
Instead of talking about how horrible these wars are, he has a show that glorifies it.
Okay.
So here he was talking with this guy about the big difference between World War II and the wars we're in now.
And here's what he has to say.
And by the way, he has that.
Okay, hang on, Tom.
He has that.
He has a smug look on his face, and he kind of shakes his head in a disapproving way at the end.
Here we go.
The difference between World War II and modern wars from an American point of view is that it was all in during World War II.
Everybody had a role.
Now it's less than 1% of the popular.
He goes, now it's less than 1% of the population.
Oh, really, Tom?
Because do you ever wonder why that would be, Tom?
Why do you think it's less than 1% of the population, Tom?
Could it be, I don't know, maybe that's the way the military-industrial complex wants it?
Because when we were all in, the war was over in four years.
And now when it's 1% in, it's endless.
It's endless war, Tom.
You big, you never serve.
By the way, who didn't serve?
Oh, Tom Brokaw didn't serve.
Tom Brokaw never was in the military.
He was of age for Vietnam service, certainly.
He certainly was of age for a lot of service.
The other big difference between World War II and the modern wars is World War II was not totally fabricated bullshit.
So that would be different.
That would be different.
Another big difference.
Now, how do you feel about Tom Brokaw?
Go ahead, Katie.
I just can't believe that CBS's demographic is too young for him, that he had to find people who were 150 and older.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, he was, that was Tom Brock.
By the way, so the thing that bothered me was like, you can't see it.
You have to see the view.
You could probably pick up a little bit of his disdain.
You can hear the condescending sneer.
I feel like when he sings happy birthday, it feels condescending.
Ah, he is pretty.
Let me play it again.
Maybe we can hear what's the difference between this war.
Come on, give it to me, Tom.
Tom?
Hang on.
The difference between World War II and modern wars from an American point of view is that it was all in during World War II.
Everybody.
Yeah, we all came together in World War II and stood united as one people, you know, except for the blacks and the Japanese.
We really were segregated or internal.
Don't leave out the Italians and the Germans on that one.
Why give them any recognition for what they did?
And then after 9-11, hang on.
And then after 9-11, we all came together again in the belief that we had to attack Saddam Hussein for no apparent reason, right?
We come together.
But we were united in that.
We were all wrong.
We were all wrong.
That's right.
We were united in our idiocy and ignorance.
Good times.
No reason.
What about the oil?
What are you creating?
He's right.
I didn't even think about that.
And the chicks.
Everybody had a role.
Now it's less than 1% of the popular.
Now it's less than 1% of the population.
He's kind of shaking his head back and forth in a very, no, it's less than 1%.
Really, Tom?
Why do you think that is Tom?
He acts like that's a failing of this generation.
And he can't kiss the World War II generation's ass enough because he didn't serve.
And he does, he's one of those.
He's Ted Nugent, right?
So Ted Nugent, who didn't serve, is now he can't, he cannot kiss the military's ass enough and give this false praise.
I don't know.
Well, it's just because he's trying to overcompensate for him not being a man.
And Tom Brokaw's doing the same thing.
And it's not the same war, Tom.
World War II was an actual war that had an actual purpose.
These wars don't have any actual wars, any actual purpose.
Which we entered very late in the game.
Even the approach to entering World War II, we came at the end when we're like, okay, we've gone three times and everything seems to be fine.
No Holocaust happening here, the American Red Cross says.
Right.
And then, you know, we finally entered, which is the opposite here.
We're like, you know what, there is no war, but let's create one.
So do you think Tom Brokaw, what he's saying there is, do you think he's clamoring for the wealthy kids to be drafted into the war?
Is that what he's talking about?
As long as they're not his own, it sounds like.
I don't think that's what he's talking about.
Coming up, by the way, next week he's going to come back on Meet the Press and compare apples to oranges and can find they're completely different.
We'll be looking for that.
We'll be right back.
Time for another installment of Oh My God.
This week's Oh My God segment, David Barton, who's been friends of the show, been on the show before.
David Barton, he delivered his stock presentation during a service at Whitesburg Baptist Church in Huntsville, Alabama, huh?
My old girlfriend, Gigi's dad's from Huntsville, and he was a bad tipper.
So where he always said, I don't tip 10%.
I'm like, that's not right.
Your daughter's a waitress.
Okay, so where he once again, he falsely asserted this guy, David Barton, that the Supreme Court banned the practice of requiring Bible reading in public schools because it could give students brain damage, as well as the various other false claims that he routinely makes.
Okay, but here, what he does, he's got some new information.
He's upset with Starbucks coffee because they support marriage equality, according to Barton.
And here's what he has to say about it, ready?
Starbucks has pouring all this money into destroying traditional marriage.
Can a Christian give money to a group he knows?
We'll use it to attack what God supports.
If you know that when you buy a cup of Starbucks, 5, 10, 15 cents is going to be used to defeat marriage.
I would contribute to that.
God, I'm sorry.
You've got to find some other coffee to drink.
You can't drink Starbucks and be biblically right on this thing.
It's just real simple principle.
It's a real simple principle.
You can't drink Starbucks and be right with God.
That's just, God said, no Starbucks.
We know that.
All this time I've been going to Dunkin' Donuts because I thought they had better coffee, and now I'm heading straight to Starbucks.
The fact that I might be able to get married just by drinking a $7 cup of coffee is so exciting.
Are you looking to buds?
He's talking gay marriage, right?
You're not looking for a moment.
I'm looking for any at this point.
You'll take a gay marriage.
36.
That's nice.
I'm keeping my options open.
Exactly.
So that was David Barton.
That's fantastic.
Can't drink it.
But I wonder what.
So if they're not discriminating against people, you can't go.
It's like the ant.
It's the opposite of what you're supposed to do, right?
It's like the, oh, they're not discriminating.
They're bad people.
That's what he's saying, right?
Yes.
No, he's absolutely saying that.
And it's defeating marriage.
Like, what I was curious about is like, how order it, like, let's just like break the down.
Like, so you go in and you order a $9 cup of coffee that's like not so great, but whatever.
And you put some caramel in it, and that just like destroys marriage.
Like, which is the part that destroys the marriage?
Coffee no part?
I don't know.
Coffee destroyed my marriage.
Coffee animus.
Yeah, that'll do it.
It's just supposed to be voluntary.
Right.
I mean, maybe you're not supposed to be awake during your marriage.
Maybe you should just be drunk or drugged up during it.
Jimmy, can we hear him again?
Because he's really a wordsmith when it comes to breaking it down.
Okay, let's.
Yeah, well, I'll play.
Here we go one more time.
Listen for the word defeat.
Starbucks is pouring all this money into destroying traditional marriage.
The question is: can a Christian give money to a group he knows will use it to attack what God supports?
If you know that when you buy a cup of Starbucks, 5, 10, 15 cents is going to be used to defeat marriage.
Can you do that?
Answer is no.
Biblically, there's no way a Christian can help support what is attacking God.
I'm sorry.
You got to find something like coffee to drink.
Can't drink Starbucks and be biblically right on this thing.
It's just real simple principles.
I like how people applaud it.
And so all they're doing is like, yeah, hate the gay.
That's right.
Hate the gay.
They don't know what it's just like, yes, that's not like the people who are exact.
You know what coffee does not destroy marriage?
It's chock full of nuts.
This at heavenly coffee.
Better coffee, a millionaire's money can't buy.
Chock full of nuts.
And Anison, the pain reliever.
I mean, if your marriage is chock full of nuts, right?
That's a good thing.
You're going to, you know.
My point is, Starbucks coffee is way too burnt-tasting, and I don't care for it.
That has nothing to do with marriage.
I just don't know.
I know.
Now I feel like obligated to drink it.
Like, I don't like their coffee, and now I feel like genuinely obligated to stand up.
As like a principal.
You know what?
I think as a principal, I'm just going to go into cashier and just lay down 15 cents.
Just put that to a microphone.
You know where that's going to be.
My mom will go into Starbucks and buy the toys.
Like she is that person.
You know, when you see the like useless, like odd things that they're selling there, and like, why does Starbucks have yoga mats?
And she'll be like, oh, I need a yoga mat.
The music.
I always buy the music.
Is Starbucks actually doing political type things?
I don't even know that.
They're actually a woman.
Is that based on anything?
No, no, no.
They are a wonderful company.
Like, they provide health insurance for part-time workers.
That's the only part of wonderful I know.
Thank you.
Now, I don't know if you've been watching CNN, but Jeff Sucker's doing great work.
Aaron Burnett is over there, Carol Costello.
It's Burnett and Costello.
They're better than Abbott and Costello, believe me.
but they also have Anthony Bourdain because he does a food show, and where else would I want to watch a food show I'm sorry I have to say this, but if they have, who would you say in Costello?
I said they have Burnett and Costello.
We're better than Advanced Costello.
So shouldn't they have a food show done by Bacha Galoop?
I'm not smart enough.
Sorry.
What the fuck?
I don't even.
None of us got that.
That's the Avon Costello show.
Go ahead.
Okay.
All right.
You even stumped people older than me.
It got exactly the reaction I knew it would get, but yet I had to say it.
I understand.
I understand.
So here, so they have a show, Anthony Bourdain.
He goes, because you want to see a guy eat food.
I want to watch it on a news network.
And so he went to Libya, right?
Because whenever I think good eats, I'm thinking you go to some backward country.
So here we go.
So here he is.
He's sitting there in a place called Uncle Kentucky Fried Chicken.
So it's not Kentucky Fried Chicken.
It's called Uncle Kentucky Fried Chicken.
And the guy, he's sitting there with a Libyan, and the guy's eating a chicken sandwich.
And he equates it with liberty, and here's what...
That's we fighting.
That's we why giving a lot of blood from my country because I wanted feeling that the taste of freedom.
The taste of freedom.
It's a nice taste.
So that's what the taste of the taste of freedom.
The diarrhea of freedom.
Yes, yes.
You ever work at KFC?
I'd prefer living under Qaddafi.
Yes, freedom tastes a lot like obesity.
Tonight's show was brought to you by fat and sodium.
That's why they're fighting for a 20-piece bucket of extra crispy.
The freedom to eat crappy food made on factory farms.
We'll die for it.
That's true.
Isn't a lot of the problems in that country tribal that some people are KFC and others are Popeyes?
Yeah.
They split down the middle.
Some people go churches.
Some people go Browns.
There's a lot of, yes, there is.
It's all tribal.
The Kurds, I think, are churches.
So then he gets in a car and it's all badass.
They play hard rock music.
He's in a cab going to get some more food.
And this is the, this is, I'm going to turn it down because this is the hard rock they were playing.
Here's the music.
You hear that?
Sure.
So they see him driving through Gallibia and it's a burner.
It's like, wow, he's got some badass taste buds going on.
He's really, he's a real edgy taster and eater.
And you know, he's so then they go.
Oh, guess what?
They went to Qaddafi's compound.
Right.
And it turns out it's all rubble.
Right.
He goes, so here he goes.
This is what's left of Gaddafi's Palace.
Yeah, so they show him walking around.
They show him what they play that music.
He's walking around.
And then he starts interviewing a guy, right?
By the way, Gaddafi's Palace, you can get a good deal on it, but it's definitely a fixer-upper.
What can you say about a guy who was a dictator of a country, never rose above a colonel?
I mean, come on.
This palace looks like it was designed by Frank Lloyd wrong.
I saw that episode, and that is, that is amazing.
You saw this episode?
Yeah.
That is amazing, the fact that it is flattened.
It is flattened.
It looks like a municipal dump.
Yeah, well, NATO was bombing it pretty heavily.
NATO bombed the hell out of it.
So he starts to interview some guy there.
There's a guy who happens to be there.
So Anthony Bourdain starts to interview him on a pile of rubble and it gets all hairy, right?
Well, let's listen.
Let's listen.
So here he is interviewing this guy, and right in the middle of interviewing this guy, some like militia guys show up, right?
They're upset that he's on this.
So here he is.
So all of a sudden, some guy, stop, stop now, stop now.
What?
They want us to stop coming right now.
They want us to stop filming right now.
Anthony Bourdain.
Okay.
Don't kill me.
Don't kill me.
Done being a badass.
Okay.
While talking, we didn't notice several pickup trucks of local militia had closed in on us.
No, stop, stop, stop.
I've stopped.
Okay, you were stuck, bro.
Just relax.
No, you're.
What's up?
This is their turf or their area of operation or somehow under their control.
Whatever the case, they're the group in charge today.
And Anthony Bourdain's in charge of not crapping his pants.
He has a job to do.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
So then all of a sudden, this is true, right?
So all of a sudden, somebody yells at somebody yells at them.
Quick, they want to delete the tape.
Quick, we got to go.
So here, I'll see if you can hear it.
Let's see.
Okay, let's go.
Let's leave.
Let's go.
They want to delete the cards.
Let's go.
So they start playing this music to make it sound more dramatic.
And I'm starting to think this is all staged.
This is all nobody came to screw with them.
They probably hired a couple of guys and pick up trucks to come make it look like they were scared.
And now they're leaving.
They're going to erase your food.
They want to erase your film of eating KFC.
That's what you've been doing.
You're not Julian Assange, Bourdain.
You're a guy going around eating crappy food in Libya.
There's nothing important on your videotape.
So they do that.
So then he meets, he goes and meets with these other guys, and they're going to make some food.
And he starts talking to this woman.
This woman who was a student in America studying to be a doctor when the Libyan Revolution happened.
So she quit school, went back to Libya to be a doctor to help these people who were being killed in the revolution or, you know, wounded.
And so Anthony Bourdain asks her what was that?
Jihan put her medical studies on hold to help tend all manner of horrible war injuries.
What kind of procedures were you doing on a regular basis?
Oh, everything, everything.
Without prior practice and knowledge, so you're just like kind of in the situation, trying to pick up things.
How many patients did you treat a day?
60, 70.
60.
Yeah, wow.
So in Syria, they call that the public option.
So then they all sit down to eat.
They all sit down to eat, and Anthony Bourdain, guess what happens?
Shihan risked her life along with the men.
But traditional and hide-bound rules of conduct do not allow her to sit with them during dinner.
So she's not allowed to sit with the guys during dinner.
And then where does she sit?
She's relegated to what might be called the kids' table.
She has to sit at the kids' table, which I think is kind of BS.
The kids' piece of ground, really.
Right.
Sitting on the ground.
That's right.
There's no kids' table.
Right.
What could one say?
What could one say?
He goes.
What could one say about this, huh?
We who like to think of ourselves as more enlightened in this area.
I don't know.
Rightly or wrongly.
Yes, I've got no guts.
Yeah, here he goes.
What could one say?
We who like to think of ourselves as more enlightened in this area.
I don't know.
Rightly or wrongly, I said nothing.
I'm going to guess wrongly.
I didn't want them to yell at me.
Yeah.
I didn't want to be upset.
I thought I'd sit there and take part in subjugating a woman who actually saved her life.
Wow.
Fortunately.
Wrongly, I said nothing.
I mean, she is a woman after all.
I've got to give them that.
I did.
Rightly or wrongly, I let her do the dishes.
Yes, just wait till one of those guys asked her to perform a vasectomy.
That's what I thought.
Fortunately, she's attracted to sexist assholes.
Okay.
So, you know, I don't know what I would do in that situation.
In that situation, I would go, wait a minute, why do you feel that way about her?
She just saved your life.
How is she not equal to you?
You think God thinks that she's not equal, even though you couldn't save yourself?
I would have said something.
Anthony Bourdain, badass, said nothing.
He didn't want to create a scene in Arby.
He said nothing.
Hey, they don't respect her, and why should they?
I like that he's like questioning rightly or wrongly.
Like that, you know, I think it would have been better if he had just said wrongly.
Said nothing.
Yes, rightly or wrongly.
No, wrongly.
You definitely was wrongly.
That's not cool.
You know, I know, is that is that me being an elitist with that my culture is better than theirs?
And if that is, it is.
My culture is better than that culture.
That's it.
With treating people in your culture less than because of the way they were born is wrong.
There's right and wrong, and that's wrong.
Who save lives and who risk their lives to save?
She's done more with her life than Anthony Bourdain has ever done.
That's for sure.
That's for damn sure.
Yes, yes, that's for damn sure.
So are you saying that?
Rightly or wrongly, I have a penis and she doesn't.
So screw her.
Jimmy, are you saying that when we go out to eat tonight, that I actually get a sit at the big table today?
Yes, you can sit with us.
It's all right.
I don't mind.
I don't mind a little tonight because if you bust it afterwards.
That's right.
I kind of disagree.
I mean, I think Anthony Bourdain has been a very good ambassador for like, here's how you travel abroad.
You pay attention to the customs.
You don't be rude.
You don't like, I mean, you may not like something, but just deal with it because it's their country.
It's not yours.
And I think that that's a message he sent out that America really needs to hear.
And I don't obviously.
What if you're in South Africa in the 80s?
Would you feel the same way?
But if you go to South Africa in the 80s and you don't expect to see that, then you're an idiot.
If you went to Libya and expected to see women not oppressed, then you went to the wrong country.
But wait, I have to say this, Robert.
What you're saying is very important.
Stephanie, could you leave the room, please?
My only concern would be, you know, like if I were to say something like you wanted him to say, you know, what I fear for my safety and her safety.
Yeah.
You know, that would be my only concern.
But in the narration, the guy can say anything he wants.
And for him to say rightly or wrong, there's nothing right about it, I can see backing off when there's all these nuts there, but not in the narration.
He didn't portray it in the narrative as, I wanted to say something, but I would have put her in danger had I said it.
He presents it just as, ah, rightly or wrongly, you know, the food was coming out of the oven.
It smelled good.
I didn't want to mess anything up.
And another kitchen disaster.
So, Roger, Robert, to your point.
No, I mean, if you went to apartheid in the 80s or if you went to Libya now, I wouldn't expect to see women being treated equally.
But I would expect Anthony Bourdain, if he's having a meal with people and that he just interviewed this woman who's a doctor who saved their lives, who quit school to come back there and do that and is a, you know, has done more than these guys.
I think you could ask, and you don't have to go, hey, you're wrong, or you couldn't you just say, hey, he could have asked them, but I think that you're missing one of the points of Anthony, all three of Anthony Bourdain's shows have been about traveling, experiencing other cultures on their own terms, eating the food that they eat, sitting down and breaking bread with people on their own terms.
And which, by the way, you know, not for nothing is not something Americans do enough.
One of our biggest problems overseas, not just as tourists, but in terms of our State Department, is we do not deal with cultures on their own terms.
So, you know, I know, obviously, I think, one, I think Libya is disgusting for that reason.
Two, it would have been nice for him to say, like, so what's the deal here?
Yes.
Like, that would have been reasonable.
But I think for him to say, like, you know, this was a rudeness issue.
It was a rightly or wrongly.
I don't think that's out of line with the theme of his show overall, which is I come to your home, I deal with your customs.
That's good information.
It does mitigate it a little bit, and it certainly is keeping with the theme of the show.
It would have been nice if he asked her.
I would say, though, that it's kind of indicative of an overall problem with CNN in that, you know, it's just kind of always, whether it's his show or Aaron Burnett's show or Wolf Blitzer or anyone, it's always doing the safest, most superficial thing.
My point is that if Anthony Bourdain had raised this issue with these people in a polite way, just saying from an American's point of view, I think it's wrong that that woman is sitting by herself.
I would like to go sit and eat with her.
Here is why I want to.
And then that would lead to maybe conflict and a debate with the people, and we'd hear their point of view about it.
You know what?
It would be a much better TV show.
It would be much better television if he engaged that issue.
But like every other show on CNN, it's like, no, we're not even going to go there.
I agree.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges.
I mean, Anthony Bourdain's show is about eating.
It's about traveling and eating.
Wolf Blitzer is supposed to be a man who asks questions to power.
It's on CNN.
It's on CNN because it gets good ratings and their ratings are in the toilet.
That's the only reason why it's on CNN is because they paid him the best price for his show.
Travel Channel probably paid him better than Food Network, and then CNN paid him better than Travel Network.
That's the only reason why it's on their show.
And also because CNN's programming is god-awful.
Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess what we're saying is you're criticizing CNN like that, and then we criticize him by saying Anthony Bourdain is not doing the job of a newsman.
Why is this on?
So I made it at the point at the top of the show.
Why is this food show on CNN?
What Anthony Bourdain is doing at that moment is what every whether it's Wilf Blitzer or Anderson Cooper or any, what everyone does on CNN, which is saying, well, we'll have to leave it there.
He says something crazy.
Someone does something crazy.
And it's just, it's just, well, that's just the way it is.
We'll have to leave it there.
We're moving on.
That's really different.
Exactly.
No, Frank.
Exactly the same thing.
Frank, he's listening.
Anthony Bourdain is adhering much more to the precepts and principles of being a food writer and a travel writer than any other journalist is adhering to their journalistic standards on the CNN network.
Okay.
All right.
You know what I hate about Aaron Burnett's show the most?
When she ends it with that fucking song, I'm so glad we had that.
You know, Jim.
It's irritating one thing, and I don't even get the context.
Jim, Jim.
I like it.
I like the questions from the audience.
I hear you.
I hear you.
Tarzan.
Frank, excellent.
Frank, Jim, that is Carol Burnett.
You're thinking of Carol Burnett.
This is Aaron Burnett.
Never heard of her.
Oh.
Thank you.
So I don't know if you saw what happened in Congress this week.
So there's been a lot of, they say there's 26,000 or so rapes or sexual assaults in the military every year, and only something like 3,000 of them get reported.
So we've all heard about this in the news the last couple of weeks.
So this week, all the heads of all the different branches of the military came to for a hearing or a meeting at the Senate, and it was all men.
It was all men from the Marines, all the men from the Navy, all the men from the Army.
There had to be over a dozen people on that panel, one woman.
Robert, there was more than a dozen.
It was like the whole room was full with men, military men.
It was really shocking to see.
And there was one woman, but she wasn't on the panel.
She was like in the third row.
She was sitting behind the men.
Yeah.
Well, at least she's got to sit with the men.
So they're talking in coffee.
Actually, not in the cafeteria.
Rightly or wrongly.
I said nothing.
Dana Rohrbacher said nothing.
Rightly or wrongly.
So there's a big problem with the sexual assaults in the military.
We all know about it.
And that's been going on for years since they started letting women in the military.
And so again, recently, one of the guys in charge of rooting out sexual harassment in the military got caught sexually harassing someone.
He was trying to...
Yes.
Yes.
And then there was a guy who was convicted of raping this woman.
And then the commanding officer threw that conviction out.
said this guy.
So that's what they're In World War II, they would have hired Hitler to fight Nazis.
Yes, they're very good.
That's a great analogy.
So they're trying to, so they're having this big hearing about sexual harassment, rapes in the military, and how they don't go reported because you can report them to jackasses who are just as bad as the guy abusing you.
So here is Saxby Chambliss, senator from Georgia, and here's what he had to say about the sexual harassment.
We've got to do a better job of screening folks before they come in.
And the other thing we have to remember is we think about making changes to the UCMJ in this respect.
So when he says UCMJ, he's a reform code of military justice.
Yeah, so there's a handbook, Universal Code of Military Justice.
So that's what he's talking about putting a change to, okay, when he says that, okay.
The UCMJ, in this respect, the young folks that are coming into each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 2.
Gee, who is that?
the level of the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur.
And he's right about that because don't you all guys remember when you were in your 20s and you were really horny?
Remember how hard it was to not rape someone who you can overpower physically?
Remember how hard it was to rein that in?
Because everybody could do that.
Every guy has the rape instinct.
Don't you have it, Frank?
Like, yeah, when I was that age, it was like spring arrives and a young man's fancy turns to rape.
And so, and this is this is Saxby Chamblin.
This is a senator, and then he's sitting there talking to a bunch of guys who are just as dumb as he.
I mean, and you wonder why there's still sexual harassment in the military that's going unpunished, that it's not being dealt with.
And hang on, let me pause this.
He's basically saying rape, feeling like you want to rape a girl when you're that age is normal, is what he's saying.
That is exactly what he's saying.
It's so hormonal.
It's hormonal.
Nature, this is nature sets it up.
But most of those instances were involved guys who were much older than 17 to 23.
Yes.
In fact, yes.
In fact, you're right.
Most of the 30s and 40s.
Probably like officers, right?
Yeah.
Like lieutenants and captains.
Oh, and by the way, according to every law I've ever heard, rape isn't a crime of sex.
It's a crime of violence.
Of power.
It has nothing like sexuality.
My favorite.
It doesn't matter.
You know what?
I've also read some stuff about this too.
And there's another point of view that there is sex involved in it.
There is a certain.
You can't.
But not to the victim.
Not to the people.
Not to the victim, but to the perpetrator.
It is sexual as well, is dominant.
Really?
But yes.
I don't think you can separate and just say it's an act of violence and humiliation.
You know, but the prize is irrelevant.
It's the assault that is the problem.
So, I mean, it's the same as if I assault you and take your wallet, I've still assaulted you.
Okay.
It just, it has the reason why it is in its own category because it involves a certain type of emotional trauma and physical trauma that's unique.
But it's still, at the end of the day, in the eyes of the law, it is an act of assault.
It is an act of violence.
Okay.
And as far as the UCMJ is concerned, it should be as well.
But I will say to Steph's point that if you are committing an act of violence and you have a boner, there's got to be a little sex in there.
There's something grosser about it.
Right.
You might be sexualizing.
Yeah, there's something.
But you don't get to take what you want, period.
Yes.
All right.
So I'm going to do.
But I think the point is it's not a natural manifestation of a person's sexuality.
It's a perversion of it.
And there's nothing natural about it at all.
It doesn't matter whether it's natural or not.
It's unacceptable behavior.
That's a pointless debate.
I'm still paying student loans from UCMJ.
Thanks for listening!
Senator Saxby Chambliss from Georgia.
Now you've you.
Hey, first time on your show, Jamie.
Let's acknowledge that.
Yeah.
Yes, first time.
It's going to be easy because no one knows what this guy really sounds like.
Yeah, that's the beauty.
Listen, now, Saxby.
What kind of a name is Saxby, by the way?
Oh, it's no family name.
Saxby.
Oh, they go way back.
Way back, bang, bang, back, bang.
Okay, I got it.
South Carolina.
You caused quite a stir with your comments about sexual assault in the military.
I don't know what all that was about.
I was just saying to make a very simple point there.
Yeah, I know.
But your point, you understand.
You know, all these rapes happen.
You know, people are young.
You know, they got their hormones raging.
Yeah, but everybody knows when that goes on, a whole bunch of raping is going on.
No, that's not what.
Do you understand that normal people, because they're horny, don't rape someone else?
They don't do that.
That's natural.
No, that's a very natural thing for that to happen.
Where I'm from, we used to rape people all the goddamn time.
When we were a nerd.
Oh, when we were young, we used to rape.
Oh, we would rape the hell out of people when we were young.
Well, that's not right.
Yeah, with the town I grew up in, there was a five-year-old boy going around raping women.
It was the creepiest goddamn thing.
Grown women, a child would go rape them.
So, Sack, Sack, Sax, you understand why that's not what you're saying is wrong, right?
Because people don't get horny.
That doesn't cause you, you know, sexual assault is sex is a crime of violence, not a crime of horniness.
You get that, right?
What you just said does not process in my brain one bit.
So you're worried about, we're talking about in the military here, and you're worried about crime of violence.
These are people who shoot and blow things up and all that good stuff.
And then you're worried about a little bit of that, a little bit of sex going on.
Yeah.
It's not sex.
It's assault.
It's violence.
Yeah, sex.
I don't understand.
Maybe, you know, we need to define terms here.
You know, I'll tell you before you get in the debate, you need to define.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about, son.
Okay.
All I know is I'm afraid that this little alert comedy bit might end up on Jezebel.com.
Some big old lesbian feminist blogger get all upset about it.
Okay.
Well, I just don't know.
I can't explain it to you any other way, Mr. Saxby.
Well, no, it's Mr. Chablis.
Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Chambers.
My first name's Saxby.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a funny name for a guy.
Just a funny Saxby.
How's that a funny name?
It's just a.
I never heard it before.
Have you ever heard anyone else?
When I was in second grade, there were eight Saxbys in my class.
Well, how could we?
You didn't know any Saxby's?
No, I don't know any Saxby's.
That's a crazy.
He didn't grow up knowing any sex bits.
How do you...
How do you get to age 40, whatever, never know someone named Saxby?
That's the most common name in the United States, isn't it?
No, I think you're the only one.
Well, I guess I'm just living in my own bubble.
Anyway.
Okay.
Thank you, Saxby.
I appreciate you.
That's all you want to say.
Yeah, I don't know what else to you.
Do you want to call me up and confuse me about the difference between sex and rape?
Yeah, that's I just wanted to clear it up and let you know that sex, you know, assault.
Sex rape.
That's one word, isn't it?
I don't even know if that is a hyphenated word.
I thought sex was short for sex rape.
No, it's not.
Listen, that's its own word.
I don't know how the hell you got to let what is going on in this country.
Okay, well, thank you.
I certainly don't know.
You certainly.
I'm a Southern Republican.
I got no idea what's going on in this country.
I thought Saxby was a common name.
Yeah.
I know.
Okay.
Well, Saxby, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for spending time with us.
Hey, how about that, Michael Douglas, huh?
Yeah.
That's some weird shit.
Yeah, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
You get horny like that, Michael Douglas, type fella.
No, that's not the same thing.
He did it consensual.
That's different.
Well, no, no, it doesn't.
I didn't say that in the article.
Hey, maybe.
We don't know if he was consensual or he just grabbed some woman and started going down on her without her permission.
And then she, you know, a woman's body has a way of defending itself in that situation.
In that case, her vagina gave us mouth cancer.
That's how the female body works.
Did you see that behind the candle?
Candles, smiley candles.
Yeah, I did see behind the candelabra.
I saw that.
I don't know that word.
But yeah, anyway, he's gay, apparently.
That fellow's a homosexual.
See?
No, they were acting.
That was just acting.
No, I saw it.
No, they weren't acting.
I saw it on screen.
Yeah, they were in bed.
They weren't.
They're gay.
Those are two gay dudes.
They weren't acting like they were kissing each other.
They were kissing each other.
That's not acting.
That's kissing.
Saxby, I can't wait to find out what other things you don't understand and get wrong about the modern world.
Okay, so this is fantastic.
No, it's quite a kaleidoscope of ignorance, my friend.
Yes, it is.
You'll enjoy exploring all the shit that I don't know is Lesion.
But I'm on a committee for each topic of things that I don't know anything about.
Yes, I'm sure you are.
All right.
Well, Saxby, I appreciate it.
I'm glad that you're one of our nation's 100 senators.
You're a great leader and a great thinker.
We look forward to having you back on the show.
Thank you very much.
And just to remind everybody, this is Saksby Chambliss, not Ailey Barber.
Bye.
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