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March 9, 2012 - Jimmy Dore Show
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You know the press can be a bitch sometimes.
Just say oops and move on.
Sometimes there's nothing else to do.
Besides, there might be people chasing you because you sold them a bunch of worthless stocks for 20 billion bucks.
Just say oops.
There's supposed to be something here.
Here we go.
Or spilled 100 million gallons of oil and fed up the world.
Don't you get morose.
Take a weekend yacht trip off the English coast because it's all good.
You know that life can be a bitch sometimes.
Just say oops and move on.
I want all my friends.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
the show for up-minded, lowly-livered lapdies.
The kind of people that are It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say.
It's hard to talk to your TV.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore.
Hi, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode.
I am joined in studio from the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast, Paul Gilmartin.
Hi, Paul.
How are you?
How are you, Jimmy?
All right, next to him, former writer for the Daily Show, hilarious comedian Steve Rosenfield.
How are you, Steve?
Good, Jimmy.
How are you today?
Next to him from CinematicTitanic.com, coming to a town near you and Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's Frank Condoff.
Hi, Frank.
How are you?
Hey, how are you doing?
Frank, are you going?
Are you going to be on the road anytime soon?
Yeah, we're going to be in North Carolina and South Carolina next weekend.
Oh, that's next weekend.
Okay.
All right.
Look for Frank in Cinematic Titanic there.
Please come out.
Super Tuesday happened, and no matter how much the media tries to manufacture drama, there's no mystery that an ass will win.
Give Lindsay Lowen a break, people.
That's what I say.
You know, she hosted Saturday Night Live last Saturday, and give her a break, right?
I thought she shoplifted.
I mean, stole the show.
And Kirk Cameron says homosexuality goes against the foundations of Western civilization.
You mean like the Greeks?
Okay.
Coming up on today's show on the Oh My God segment, Pat Robertson says you have to pray a little harder to get rid of tornadoes.
We're going to check in with Rush Limbaugh.
He's in the news.
I don't know if you're going to be able to do that.
Oh, is he really?
We're going to check in.
Plus, we're going to check in on how media watchdog Howard Kurtz covered the Russ Limbaugh scandal.
Yes.
He's the host of reliable sources, Howard Kurtz over on CNN.
We're going to check in with that.
And that's going to be the show.
That's pretty much going to cover.
The rants?
Oh, then we're going to have some rants.
Paul has a rant.
I have a rant on our good friend Andrew Breitbart.
And that's about it, though, for today.
Okay, so that's coming up on the Jimmy Doer show.
Time for another installment of Oh My God.
Okay, in today's Oh My God segment, we have again, we had another listener complaint or I'd say customer complaint for Pat Robertson.
Here it is.
She's going to read him an email.
This is Don from Illinois who wants to know why did God send the tornadoes?
God didn't send.
Remember Robert Yasamura was talking about the tornadoes in southern Illinois and stuff last week and he said, well, why does it?
And this is exactly.
This is Don from Illinois who wants to know why did God send the tornadoes?
God didn't send tornadoes.
God set up a world in which certain currents interfere and interact with other currents.
When you have a warm group of air coming out of the south coming up against the coal masses up in the north, you'll get vortexes and that in turn will spawn tornadoes.
God doesn't send tornadoes to hurt people.
He doesn't send, you know, we call them acts of God, but they're not.
Okay, so so far so good, by the way.
I thought he was going to say God doesn't kill people.
Tornadoes kill people.
It wasn't this guy that blamed New Orleans on the flooding and the dying because of their lifestyle.
The gays.
Share the gaze.
Oh, also the secularists and the feminists and the abortionists about 9-11.
Yeah, that's how 9-11 happened.
That's how 9-11 happened.
But so far he's doing okay.
He's actually talking about science.
He's explaining.
We've got a bizarre Oh My God segment right now, but I have the feeling he's going to shatter it.
Yeah, he's doing pretty good so far.
Here we go.
So all I can say is that why do you build houses in a place where tornadoes are apt to happen?
No, that's a little cold-hearted, is all I could say.
You mean like in America?
Why do you build a house in America where tornadoes are they happen everywhere?
They happen in Minnesota where I live from Minnesota.
Illinois where we're from.
Illinois, Alabama, Georgia.
They happen everywhere.
What do you mean?
There should be no houses in any of those places.
Why are you building houses there?
Okay, here we go.
Yeah.
Well, and this year, of course, the weather patterns, the warm winter and the warm, you know, early part of the year that we're having seems to affect all of that.
But I think the bigger question for people spiritually is always not so much why did God send them, but why didn't he intervene?
You know, you think people always ask that question when I say that.
I mean, if enough people were praying, he would interview.
See, that's the prayer you go.
See, that's a God doesn't send a tornado, but he will stop it if you pray enough.
Turns out those people didn't pray enough.
Yeah, I'm sure when you see a tornado coming at you, you're not screaming, oh my God, please save me.
Jesus, please save me.
I bet Christopher Pitchens was yelling, oh my God, inside of a tornado.
And like in New York City, where they never get tornadoes, people must have really prayed.
They pray a lot in New York.
I've noticed that about New Yorkers.
People pray their heads off the New York Times.
But in the South, you know, or in the Midwest, where there's people, they know those people are godless, and that's why they get tornadoes.
I think Pat Robertson's a tornado activist.
I think he is, Too.
If you look at his LinkedIn, it shows up that it's on there, his resume.
Steve, you look like you're about to say something.
So God can't stop a tornado unless he has a minimum of a thousand people praying.
I would like to get that phone call from him.
It's just not economically worth it to him to stop a tornado unless at least a thousand people are praying convincingly to him that it stopped.
Will he accept tweets?
Well, I was going to say that when he does stop a tornado, which I guess happens, but we don't notice it, but he's mad that no one clicks like on his Facebook.
And that results in more tornadoes.
My wife and I were having dinner, and we were talking about the tornado.
And she said, why is there in the news coverage?
There's always a doll in the trash.
She said, I think the cameramen just keep a doll in the truck.
Tell it over there, Charlie.
Tell it over there, Charlie.
Let's get a picture.
It's a metaphor.
Yeah.
Yes.
That was Pat Robertson.
God doesn't cause tornado.
It's like he gets halfway there.
He's like, he's now, he's entered into that Ron Paul territory where only half the stuff he says is crazy, right?
Ron Paul, that I'm against slavery, but I'm for witch burnings.
So that's kind of where Pat Robertson, I think, as he gets older, he's starting to mellow a little.
God didn't send a tornado, but he certainly could have saved you if you would have prayed more.
Who isn't praying in a tornado?
Okay.
Blame the victim.
That's exactly what he's doing.
That's exactly what he did.
He blamed the victim twice there.
Hey, why'd you build your house there?
And you weren't praying.
Well, we put it to the house there because I figured I could just pray, right?
That land was there.
I thought it'd build my land was.
That's what my land was.
That is a right-wing addiction.
I think they get a thrill out of blaming people and punishing people.
Oh, definitely.
Do you think sometimes I think that maybe that comes from people that were like really harshly disciplined as children and are afraid to look at the fact that maybe their parents didn't love them as much as they thought they did and they don't want to open that door.
So they just kind of continue that.
I think it might be that.
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I am a psychologist.
But you play one on a podcast.
And I play one on a podcast.
I'm not either, but I am a hypochondriac.
And I'm not a psychiatrist, but I am crazy.
And I think that I read something about, you know, the kid who raises, who gets upset that, oh, he's eating chocolate and we're not supposed to.
It's because that's the person who really wants to eat chocolate.
Right.
So people who want you punished for doing something, it's because they really want to do what you've been doing.
And that's why they want to see you punish.
Why does he get to just do whatever he wants?
Right.
Right.
And it's like, you can't just do whatever you want.
Well, you can do whatever you want.
Which way you're being an adult.
Which, you know, is the kind of the classic theory of the homophobe is that doth protest too much.
This has been, oh my God.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so let's say we have to cover it.
Let's get right to it.
I know that you guys are listening to the show have heard every other person in the world talk about this already.
And I had debated whether or not to even talk about it, but I'm going to talk about it because I think the people who listen to this show would go, I wonder how the Jimmy Dorsey guys think about what they're doing.
Well, because you're a total zeitgeist slut.
I am a zeitgeist slut.
A Zeitgeist slut.
A nerd even.
All right.
Well, Russell Mawk, I started out.
He caused a firestorm that we're still in the middle of as we're taping this.
It all started when Sandra Fluke or Fluke.
I don't know.
Fluke, I think.
Fluck Fluke.
I don't know how to say her name.
A law student at Georgetown testified in front of Congress on how important access to reproductive health services was for a college student.
In fact, she told a story about her lesbian friend who needed birth control to help for a condition she had, and she couldn't afford it.
With hormones, with hormonal therapy.
So she couldn't get it, and she lost her ovary because of it.
So that's what she was called to testify about.
And then he eventually called her a slut and he called her a prostitute.
But Rush immediately recognized his egregious behavior had crossed the line and he immediately did the right thing and proceeded to attack her 54 more times over the next three days.
And then he waited until his advertisers started jumping ship and then courageously stepped up and offered an insincere apology, proving the old axiom that no man stands taller than when he insincerely apologized to stop the money drain.
And I just first, can I just say Rush lost sponsors over this?
Really?
They weren't listening all those other times?
Is this where they draw the line?
Sure, you can say hateful things about minorities, the poor, and women for years and years.
But, sir, the moment you say prostitute, you have crossed the line, a line in which you got caught.
You know, Russell Limbaugh, to his defense, he normally does walk that fine line between ugly, hateful slander and losing mattress advertisers.
He does like to walk that line.
So you want, so we, should we hear some, let's hear some of it, some of the stuff that he said.
Okay, I know we've all heard it a mirror, but this is, here's how it all started.
What does it say about the college co-en Susan Fluke who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex?
What does that make her?
It makes her a slut, right?
It makes her a prostitute.
She wants to be paid to have sex.
And what does it say about a bloated drug addict who tells blatant lies in order to smear and intimidate a female law student?
I don't have an answer.
Anybody?
I think that, you know, speaking of God and tornadoes, I could feel the presence of God in that music that was playing behind him because it was like, that's like, I assume that's the music of like, you've got to wrap it up.
We're going to commercial.
So it was God coming in in the form of music.
Don't stop talking, Rush.
Go to a commercial.
But he ignored it.
It was already at 10.
The volume was already at 10.
That was God trying to lay down the sledgehammer.
Yes.
And Peter Gabriel was quite upset.
He was when he heard that.
Oh, is that Peter Gabriel?
Yeah, that was the movie Sledgehammer Sledgehammer.
He was very upset when he found out that he had his music pulled from the show or something like that.
I didn't know you could do that.
I thought that one showed.
Well, he requested that it not be.
Well, speaking of the Bible, a lot of Peter Gabriel's teachings are revealed in Genesis.
Because he used to be the head of Genesis in case you don't know anything about Prague.
I love that you refer to him as the head of Genesis.
Phil Collins was there.
Phil Collins.
He was demoted eventually.
Phil Collins was the drummer and Peter Gabrier was the leader of the lead singer.
But Gabriel left in the mid-70s and Phil Collins took over Genesis.
And he became Peter Gabriel.
He was the vice president of Genesis.
He was, you know, they have elections.
It's a democracy.
That seems fair.
That's how rock and roll is.
So he said, he said a lot of things.
These are the two major things that people are upset.
That and then this.
He said this.
She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception.
She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex.
What does that make?
Us.
I don't know.
We're the pimps.
If we're going to have to pay for this.
Now we want something in return, Ms. Fluke.
And that would be the videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we are getting for our money.
No, that's not creepy at all.
He has managed to be hateful and creepy at the, I suppose, hateful and creepy kind of always go together.
He says it one more time.
He says it one more time, even creepy.
He's put them together like a peanut butter cup, which he knows a lot about.
Hey, you got your hate in my misogyny.
You got your misogyny and my hate.
It's called the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Okay, so he said it even a little creepier later.
If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it.
And I'll tell you what it is: we want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.
Just gives me the cringies.
I just cringe every time.
It's this old man talking about a young, pretty girl who is smart.
She's got 40 degrees.
And, you know, and all of his hate is obscures the fact that he's really misrepresenting her.
You know, she wasn't talking about having sex in the two months.
And also, as Rachel Maddow and others have pointed out, he seems to think that the way birth control works is you take a pill right before you have sex.
That's not how it works.
So, like, a woman having a lot of sex needs a lot of birth control pills.
Right.
It's funny that he thinks that, right?
So, why?
Well, because his experience with birth control is just the fact that he's Rush Limbaugh.
Well, he takes Viagra's, right?
He got caught bringing Vaughan.
He was a sex tourist in Central America.
Yes.
Are you serious?
Yes.
Yeah.
So when he was coming back from Central America, he brought with him like a ton of Viagra.
And so that's.
Now, is that fact that he was a sex tourist in Central America?
That's fact as far as the Jimmy Dor show is concerned.
I would like to speculate.
I can believe it.
I'd like to go to court and have him sue me over that.
Well, actually, the sex workers there, for the first time ever, they refused to say, Me, love you long time.
So love you five minutes.
So he was coming back into the country with all this Viagra that I think that he had purchased down there.
And they were like, hey, you can't do that.
You can't bring in a prescription drug into America unless it has your name on it.
And it didn't.
So that's how he got.
I heard it was like 5,800 pills or something.
Well, that's like the reason I don't go to the brothels down there because I've heard they've gotten really touristy.
Okay, he said this too.
30 years old, a student at Georgetown Law who admits to have so much sex that she can't afford it anymore.
I will buy all of the women at Georgetown University as much aspirin to put between their knees as they want.
Wow.
Just silence.
Just silence.
But he has a good excuse.
You know, he has a good excuse of why he said this, right?
Ready?
I use satire.
Okay, that's but not in that case, though.
He uses satire.
So I just want to give you an example of satire was funny.
Here's his ready.
If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it.
And I'll tell you what it is.
We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.
I use satire.
Does he understand that satire is how you speak to power?
Right.
So this is, let me make the point.
Satire is what you apologize for on Saturday night.
So now people, and we're going to get to, we're going to get to those points later with Howard Kurtz.
So let me go ahead and make the, let's just say it right now: that people are going, hey, Bill Ma.
Well, I'll play it.
I'll play the thing about Bill.
Conservatives, while not condoning Limbaugh's comments, question whether there is a double standard at play.
Comedian Bill Maher, who last week gave $1 million to a super PAC supporting President Obama, has said some nasty things about Sarah Palin, calling her the C-word and other names without repercussion.
She says these Tsunami-ans will not get away with this.
Oh.
Oh, speaking of dumb Did you media critic and host of CNN's reliable sources, Howard Kurtz, says conservatives do have a point here?
So here's a media critic.
We're going to get to him in a second, but here it is, Howard Kurtz.
And I guess we're going to get to him right now.
There is a bit of a double standard here.
When Ed Schultz of MMSNBC used the same word slot to talk about radio host Laura Ingram, it was a little bit of a controversy, but nothing like this.
Bill Maher has also used some very graphic language in taking on people like Sarah Palin.
So I think that because in part because Limbaugh looms is such a large figure, but also because he's a conservative who has a lot of enemies on the left, this seems to have been blown up more than some of these other cases.
Yeah, it's because he has more enemies on the left than Bill Maher has on the right.
That's what he's saying.
That's what Howard Curtis has just said.
So, and let me explain why this is wrong, Frank, for people.
The difference between what Bill Maher did and what Rush Limbaugh did is when you ridicule someone who's in power and has power, that's called comedy.
When you ridicule someone who is powerless, that's called bullying.
That's called bullying and intimidation.
And that's exactly what Russ Limbaugh was doing.
He wasn't being satirical.
He wasn't being funny.
He was being creepy, hateful, and slanderous.
And so that's the difference.
And what Ed Schultz did was just stupid, right?
Because Laura Ingram actually has more power and more popularity.
At worst, they're equal.
And well, Ed Schultz said it one time in the middle of a thing, and it was wrong for him to say it.
He apologized.
He took himself off the air voluntarily.
He gave a profuse apology.
He apologized to her Ingram, and she accepted his apology.
Personally, he personally apologized to her.
And Rush Limbaugh, as we just listened to, went on and on and on and on about this for three days.
How you can say that it's a double standard or it's the same thing is just crazy.
Well, that's why that's great.
And Sandra Fluker, or however you pronounce her last name, did not choose to appear in the media.
She was asked to testify, if I'm not right.
Well, her initial so-called fame came from the fact that she was supposed to testify before a Senate committee, and Daryl Issa wouldn't allow her to testify.
And they had that committee of all like seven men.
Not a single woman.
And that's it's really Daryl Issa who started this whole thing.
Yeah.
Yes, and people are saying that the Obama administration orchestrated all this.
They put that people are saying that.
They're not that well organized.
They're saying that they put her out there.
They knew that they knew that, first of all, Daryl Issa wouldn't allow her to testify.
Secondly, they knew the right way would make a big stink out of it.
Thirdly, they knew Rush Limbaugh would reveal himself to be the maniacal, creepy, misogynistic a-hole that he is.
They knew all that would happen when they had any of that.
None of this stuff.
Yeah, sure.
If they're that smart.
Excuse me, I think the point that Paul makes, I just wanted to enlarge on that a little bit.
enlarge the word.
The thing with the thing with this woman, Sandra Fluke, is that she's unknown to the world except for this one thing.
So she doesn't have a chance to do all these things.
Like Rush Limbaugh can go and say anything he wants or Laura Ingram.
But Sandra Fluke is only known as a slut as the woman who Rush Limbaugh believes is a slut.
So her reputation is damaged.
Yes.
And Sandra Fluke didn't choose to run for public office.
And when Ed Schultz called Laura Ingram a slut, he called her, he wasn't calling her a sexual slut.
He wasn't shaming her sex.
He was shaming her integrity.
You called her what a conservative for taking money from the coke.
She called her a slut for the Koch brothers money.
Or a corporate slut.
It was about her being taking money from these people to misinform other people.
It wasn't about her sexuality.
She wasn't shaming, he wasn't shaming her sexuality.
He did make a dumb, you know, as far as a public person, a dumb choice in that situation.
But it certainly wasn't even the same usage.
Rush Limbaugh was literally shaming that woman's sexuality.
And also, you can't find like a history in Ed Schultz of misogyny.
Misogyny.
At least on the air.
I don't know what he's like in real life, but on the air, he's you, whereas Rush Limbaugh, there's literally a 30-year trail of him doing stuff just as bad as this, but maybe not as quite as crude.
But he said a million things, not just misogynist, but racist things as well.
He played Barack the Magic Negro song.
And it was reminds me that just last week was the 100th birthday for the Oreo cookie, which is my favorite cookie in Russ Limbaugh's favorite smear about President Obama.
Right, right.
He called him an African-American.
Which half does he hate more?
I'm not sure.
But Rush did make an apology, so we have to listen.
I again sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for using those two words to describe her.
But you know, he doesn't apologize.
The whole video with which you hammered her the three days over three days over and over.
It wasn't like he got worked up into one segment and he ended up saying that stuff and he regretted it.
He said that all day, and then he got up the next day, said it all day the next day, got up the next day, said it all day.
After he'd already heard the outrage, he'd heard the outrage.
He knew people were upset.
So, okay.
The apology to her over the weekend was sincere.
It was simply for using inappropriate words in a way I never do.
*laughter*
In a way, I never do.
But you know why he really did it?
Here's why he really did it.
So you think that wasn't enough of an excuse, enough of a boy gutsy the way he stands up.
It's just choice of words was the problem?
Not the intent.
Not the intent behind the words.
What a spineless, that's all like Mitt Romney criticized him for.
I wouldn't have used those words.
I still would have shamed that woman for testifying about reproductive health.
You're talking about Mitt Romney, who owns Bain Capital, who owns Clear Channel, which owns Rush Limbaugh show.
Oh, my God.
I never even thought of that.
I acted too much like the leftists who despise me.
That's why he did it.
I descended to their level using names and exaggerations to describe Sandra Fluck.
It's what we have come to know and expect of them, but it's way beneath me.
Oh!
Wow!
Wow!
Oh, man.
That was pretty sweet.
Yeah.
Was it not?
Okay.
You know what?
I think it's so we're going to.
So that's the Rush Limbaugh clips.
We've played them.
You've heard them.
You've heard what we had to say about them.
You've heard why it's ridiculous, people making these false equivalencies between Bill Maher, Ed Schultz, and what he did.
So now let's listen to something funny.
Actually, Bill O'Reilly called in and he wanted to defend on it.
He wanted to weigh in.
Jimmy Dorch, Bill O'Reilly.
All you lefty pinheads is saying Rush Limbaugh hates women just because he called Sandra Fluke a slut and a prostitute.
Well, that's ridiculous because I am living proof that it's possible to hate women without ever using those words.
Look, to call Sandra Fluke a prostitute is to give it too much credit.
Years ago, I was in the Philippines doing a report for a current affair about the sex trade in that region.
At night, after work, to take my mind off the assignment, I would relax by paying for hookers to have sex with me.
These gals were selling their bodies.
But none of them would ever do anything as degrading as getting a law degree from Georgetown University.
And I'm telling you, they were really impressed with my incredible virility and sexual prowess, especially after I paid them in cash.
To me, Sandra Fluke seems like one of these liberal free thinkers who would only sleep with a guy if she was in a committed relationship.
If that's not whorish behavior, I don't know what is.
So as you can see, Jimmy, I have no reason to have any hostility towards any women whatsoever.
And once I get the Nassau County Police Department to investigate the cop who's been boinking my wife, I am going to have the perfect marriage right after my divorce comes through.
Look, I admire Rush, but the truth is I get along with women much better than he does.
For one thing, I talk to women very slowly over the phone while I touch myself.
And imagine the sexy segment producer on the other end of the line, naked and smeared with Middle Eastern food.
As you can see, Jimmy, I am a sensitive guy.
To be honest, it kind of bugs me that Rush gets so much more attention than I do.
I mean, he's on the radio, and I'm on TV.
So doesn't that automatically make me more important than him?
I even had a radio show of my own once, but it was canceled by the elitist Powers of Bee just because I sucked in that crappy rating.
Well, Jimmy, I didn't come here to whine.
That's what my own show is for.
So song, you slutty prostitute, you.
And say hello to boy Viscotti for me over there at the KPFK Studios.
Have a good one, boy Viscotti.
Okay, that was Bill O'Reilly as done by Mike McRae.
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Hi, welcome back to the Jimmy Door Show.
I'm joined in studio by Paul Gill Martin, Steve Rosenfield, and Frank Conniff.
What's coming up on the second half of today's show?
We're going to talk about how Howard Kurtz, that media watchdog over at CNN's Reliable Sources, tackled the Rush Limbaugh controversy and how the media handled it.
We're going to watch the watchdog.
That's what we're doing.
And then Joe the Plumber won his primary for Congress, and he had his first interview on CNN.
How do you think it went?
Fantastic.
We're going to take a look at that.
And if we have time, we're going to have a phone call from Benjamin Netanyahu, and we get a call from Andrew Breitbart coming up on the second half of the show.
Isn't that oh?
That's quite a scoop.
That's exciting.
Right now, let's go to Howard Kurtz.
So, Howard Kurtz, if you don't know, he hosts Reliable Sources, a show that critiques the media's coverage of the news, kind of a watchdog for the media.
The problem is that Howard Kurtz is bad at his job.
He was bad when he was at the Washington Post, and he's bad now.
He just fails upward, right?
It's like he's like a watchdog with very bad eyesight.
He bites whoever knocks at the door.
It doesn't matter.
He's a watchdog with rabies.
While your house is getting burgled, he's got his teeth into the ass of the mailman.
That's Howard Kurtz, the meeting.
So here he is.
He has a panel on to discuss the Rush Limbaugh controversy.
Okay, so here's how he starts it off.
This is part of what he does.
He likes to stoke outrage and draw attention by saying things that are a bit over the line.
This time, with the President of the United States calling this young woman, it seems to have sparked a greater than unusual furor.
So Howard Kurtz still kind of puzzled about why this got such big media play.
This is what he does.
He went a little over the line.
This is what, yeah, let's listen to it again, ready?
This is part of what he does.
He likes to stoke outrage and draw attention.
He likes this.
This is part of what he does.
By saying things that are a bit over the line.
A bit over the line.
So here's how his Republican.
Taylor enjoys a nice parade.
A lot of people took it the wrong way.
Exactly.
And here's how the media, so that's how his Republican, that's how the media watchdog saw it, the media watchdog Howard Kurtz.
Here's how the non-watchdogs, his Republican guests, described Limbaugh's attacks on Sandra Fluke.
First up is former Bush speechwriter David Frum.
Here's how he saw Rush Limbaugh's attacks.
I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard on radio.
Okay, so there you go.
Republican guy who coined the term axis of evil sees it as worse than Howard Kurtz does.
David Frum is doing the greatest 180 degree in the last year or two great articles.
Yeah.
Well, what happened was he started to speak the truth about what was wrong with his party in an attempt to fix it, right?
You have to first identify what's wrong before you can fix it.
And the problem is that they don't want to hear that stuff.
And you can't do that.
And so when he, as soon as he did that, as soon as he started speaking out against Fox News, I remember he made it very famously said that it used to be Fox News worked for us, and now we work for Fox Readers.
So when he started to say things like that, they fired him from the think tank that he was working for.
Was it the, I forget the name of the American Center for Progress or I forget what the name of the think tank.
It might even been the Heritage Foundation, but he worked at a conservative think tank and they fired him.
So you can't, you know.
That's too bad for him because that's got to be the cushiest job ever to be at a think tank.
A think tank is a cushy.
Oh, boy.
I just like to be able to say that at parties.
I think all day long and nobody pays me.
What do you do with the thinking?
I work at a think tank.
Oh, are you kidding?
You can see there.
So here's a former writer.
Here's Julie Mason, former writer for the political.
Here's how she saw what Rush Limbaugh said.
What he said was appalling.
It's reprehensible.
Okay.
Okay.
So let's hear it.
How did Howard Kurtz describe it again?
A bit over the line.
Okay.
Okay.
Again, again, Axis of Evil Guy.
I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard on radio.
What he said was appalling.
It's reprehensible.
A bit over the line.
Okay.
That's the media watchdog.
You could make a rap song out of that or something.
I could put it together, put a beat underneath it, and get Will Smith to go haha over it a couple times.
Would it be a meme at that point?
It might be.
And now, so here he is talking about media bias.
Here we go.
Here's Howard Kurtz talking about this in terms of media bias.
Ready?
Sandra Fluke was all over MSNBC.
She was on NBC Today Show, as we saw.
They love that story.
Almost.
They love it.
They loved that story.
She was all over MSNBC.
You mean someone at the center of the biggest news story, sucking all the oxygen out of all the other news stories, was interviewed on a news channel?
Oh, she was all over.
I love that.
Oh, and then she was on the Today Show.
They loved it.
They loved talking about the fact that a millionaire bully who's employed by one of the biggest media corporations in the country was intimidating a private citizen and calling and sexually shaming her for speaking up for women's health.
That's what he's talking about.
She was all over.
As if she was a media slut.
Yeah.
And this guy that said these things is employed by the corporation that is owned by the front-running Republican presidential candidate.
You mean Rush Limbaugh?
Yes, he's employed by Clear Channel, which is owned by Bain Capital.
Unless I'm mistaken.
That is what I understand.
You know what?
I'm going to double check.
We'll fact-check that before we drop this show.
I've heard that too.
Yeah.
I heard that as well.
Yes.
So Frank has confirmed that he heard it.
So I guess that means.
How does Romney at this point?
Because if he says, if he is appalled by what Limbaugh says, he's going to be afraid to say it because he doesn't want to alienate the far right that he needs to win this primary.
But if he doesn't denounce it, that gives the Democrats bait after the primary week.
And he hasn't denounced it yet.
So I don't think that's forthcoming from.
Well, if the Democrats don't jump on that, they're foolish.
They have been, I believe.
Let's get back.
Here's Kurtz again.
Once again, here's Howard Kurtz trying to talk about how the media covered Rush Limbaugh.
Sandra Fluke was all over MSNBC.
She was on NBC Today's show, as we saw.
They love that story.
Almost nothing on Fox News about this.
So we see the choosing of ideological sides as to whether or not these slut comments were truly offensive.
Okay, let me break that down for you, what he just said.
So there's a news story.
There's a story in the news.
A news channel covers that story.
Another news channel doesn't cover that story because it doesn't fit their ideological perspective.
And he says, see, it's just the only reason MSNBC covered it was because of their ideological back.
They're taking sides.
Like, we're on the side of covering this story.
So the only reason, yeah, so there's no objective, again, no objective facts.
It's an equal thing.
The liberal slut protectors.
Yes, the liberal slut protector.
So Fox not only didn't interview her, but they overtly buried the story almost as if they weren't really a news station.
That's the story here, Howard, that Fox didn't cover that.
That's the story.
Not that somebody did and somebody didn't and somebody loved covering it.
The story is that a news channel that has the biggest viewership in cable news didn't cover that story.
That's what he should be complaining about.
But he's like, see, if you're a conservative, you don't cover it.
If you're liberal, you cover it.
It's all split down the middle.
And that's how I think that's if the right is gaining traction in this era, it's because people think that if you go somewhere between the left and the right, that's where normality is.
And it's not because there's an element.
Well, let's say you're in 1934 Germany.
And, you know, on one side, you got the Nazis.
On the other side, you got, I don't know who the other party is.
And you go, well, I'm going to get in the middle.
Yeah.
You know, we're going to kill three million of you.
Yeah, we'll only kill the Jews that are already sick.
How about that?
Is that the middle?
So the middle ground is not.
And that's what drives me nuts about centrists.
You know, they pretend like they're the only reasonable ones in the room.
Right.
And that if you aren't a centrist, if you don't also incorporate some horrible ideas, you're not a grown-up.
Right.
You're not giving both sides of the story.
How about we just go where our conscience is?
Yes.
All over.
All over MSNBC.
And then Fox didn't cover it.
Okay.
Okay, now I don't know if you know, but Joe the Plumber, also a famous misinformer, doesn't understand the issues himself.
And he does it with a wrench.
Joe the Plumber, by the way, not his name's not Joe, and he's not a plumber.
Not a plumber.
Okay, so Joe the Plumber.
Which is why it's a good thing he's getting elected to Micah, because then he'll finally have a job.
Yeah, do not call him if you have a plumbing problem.
Not a plumber.
No, not a plumber.
His slogan is, elect me.
I really need this job.
So he said, he said a lot of ugly things about gays over the last couple of years and stuff.
And one of the things he said was that he gays better stay away from his kids, stuff like that.
He wouldn't let him around their kids.
He wouldn't let gay people around his kids.
So he was not going to let his kids leave their house.
I guess they're not going to church.
Yeah.
I guess.
Better not go to a Republican rally.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
Okay.
Or a bathroom in Minneapolis at the airport.
Okay, so here's she asks him about some of the stuff that he said.
But the Republican.
So it brings up some comments that you said, and I want to share them with you.
In an interview in 2009, in Christianity Today, you made comments about gay people.
We're going to put them up here for everybody to see.
Queer means strange and unusual.
It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that.
You also said, I've had some friends that are actually homosexual.
And I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children.
But at the same time, they're people and they're going to do their thing.
So there she goes.
Wow.
So wow, he said that.
Wow.
So he's lying that he has gay friends because if you're gay and you knew, yeah, that guy's my friend, he won't let me run his kids.
He's a friend.
I'm going to f him.
You wouldn't be friends with that guy.
Right.
Wow, yeah, I'd be friends with him.
He thinks I'm a pedophile.
I'm going to rape his kids.
But he's a good guy.
Hey, Jerry, how's the pedophiling thing going?
Look, stay away from my kids, but how about that game?
Hey, can you fill me in on what's going on with you from a distance?
Okay.
There's more.
So here's how he responds to her confronting him with his own words verbatim.
Ready?
You changed your positions on this at all?
So this is TMZ.
This isn't CNN, is what you're saying.
All the things that you said.
Ah, shoot the messenger.
Oh, this is TMZ.
You're bringing up the stuff that I said in an interview once.
No, that's not because.
Because I'm running for office?
No, TMZ would film you coming out of CNN getting into a cab.
That's what TMZ would do.
This is CNN, where they ask you about stuff you actually said in an interview before.
That's CNN.
That's the difference.
There's more to this.
You want to hear it?
Sure.
Come on.
Then I would like to know if you still stand by them or if you have changed your positions on them.
No, I want everybody to have a job.
Americans, as far as that goes.
What about these comments that you made?
Do you stand by these comments?
Listen, in my dictionary, in everyone's dictionary from the 1970s, the word queer did mean strange and unusual.
It was no slur to it.
Do you challenge that?
No, I'm just questioning whether or not you still stand by these policies.
I'm trying to get where you're at.
I'm trying to get where you're coming from.
What context are you using in this?
The context that I'm using is actually.
You're trying to do a gotcha moment.
It's quite obvious.
No, no, it's not a gotcha moment.
These are things that you said.
And I think people who are voting for you.
Hey, Joe, here's something you said in an interview verbatim.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Did you say this?
Oh, you're going to now use that stuff I said against me?
You're a cheater.
You have an opportunity to understand.
You did journalism and research, cheater.
You cheat.
You used the traps I built.
Yes.
Okay.
And whether or not you have changed your positions on these two issues here.
Well, I tell you what, I have spoken with Jimmy Lesasavia over at GoProud, and then I'm on an agreement that I'm going to work towards all Americans, homosexual, straight.
They want jobs.
That's what it comes down to.
I'm allowed to have my opinions as an American, but it seems the left becomes very intolerant when you have an opinion other than what they state.
Well, when you decide to run for political office, then all of your opinions actually come back.
And, you know, sometimes you need to explain them.
I appreciate your time this morning.
My opinions are mine.
All right, Samuel Worstlecker.
Thank you.
That's why I said they were my opinions.
Oh, my opinions are mine.
And I think queers should stay away from my kids.
And by queer, I just mean usual, unusual.
You know what a thousand plumbers just thought?
Thank God he's not a plumber.
Thank God he's not a plumber.
And also, it's kind of insulting to TMZ to compare them to CNN.
Right, because they have more integrity.
Probably.
At least they're not pretending to be something other than what they are.
Okay, so Rush Limbaugh has sucked all the air out of every other story, but still they're beating the drum in the media for war with Iran.
And it looks like Israel's really going to strike Iran.
Does it not look that way?
I'm not sure because I think that I was encouraged that Obama tried to tamp it down.
And I think if Israel thinks that America, you know, if Bush was in office, then Israel would be, we can just go ahead and America will be behind us 100%.
I think it's good that Obama is kind of messaging to them, no, we're not going to be behind it.
So that might prevent them from doing it.
I mean, I don't expect anything will happen before the election.
Oh, really?
You don't think?
No.
No.
Because they're that.
I just don't.
I think Netanyahu is crazy enough and strident enough to do something to force Obama's hand because then if he can't be seen not protecting Israel in an election, you know what I mean?
Why are we not if we're looking?
Let's say, okay, we're gonna go down that road where we say if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they're gonna use it and we have to stop them.
If you apply that logic, why are we not going after Pakistan?
They harbored the guy that masterminded 9-11.
Yeah, I know, and they have it.
How come we're not going after North Korea?
Because our foreign policy of the last 10 years dictates that we should never invade the country we're supposed to invade.
We're always supposed to have a conflict.
If another country is a threat, then we find a country near it and have a war with them.
That's our foreign policy.
It's like the Academy Awards with the old actors.
They get the award, but it's never really for the movie they should have gotten.
It was for the Al Pacino's sense of a woman.
Yeah, the color of money with Paul Newman.
Wow.
Yeah, like Iraq should have got invaded in the 1992 when they went into Kuwait, but we did it for this time when they didn't deserve it.
Right.
For lifetime achievement.
The First Gulf War was a much better picture.
It really was.
And I think Dustin Hoffman was in it.
But it's good that we're talking about another country having weapons of mass destruction that we should go to war with, because that really worked out great the last time.
It certainly does.
Okay, you know what?
Actually, Benjamin Netanyahu called in to talk to me about this.
Really?
Yeah.
He had something to say.
Jimmy, this is Bibi.
Bibi Netanyahu.
I'm having a lovely time visiting your country.
I'm sure many Americans turned on the telly yesterday and wondered why their president was talking to Gene Simmons at the White House.
Well, that was actually me.
Mr. Obama and I were having rather tense talks about your country's commitment to military intervention against Iran.
I just don't know how to get through to him.
There's an old Yiddish saying, loosely translated.
He has such big ears, but he doesn't listen.
This is one intractable schwa, I can tell you that.
I mean, what is the big deal?
All that we're asking is that America unleash a crippling missile strike on a nation of 79 million people, thereby radicalizing a massive generation of Muslim youth, prolonging the war on terror for another four or five decades, and destabilizing an entire region of the world to the extent that massive ground troop commitment would necessitate a draft and cause untold bloodshed and destruction in and around one of the oldest nations on earth.
My worst enemy, I would wish this.
But we'll get our way, I've no doubts.
AIPAC, the Christian right, etc.
Like I've said in the past, America is a thing easily moved.
Not so much in Israel.
You wouldn't be able to tell from the media here, but there is this annoying debate there about what sort of role we should play, what sort of relationships we should have with our neighbors.
And get this, many Israelis are opposed to preemptive war against Iran.
And I am much less popular at home with those people than I am up on that AIPAC stage here.
To be honest, I much prefer my dictatorial role in the U.S. government to my democratic role in the Israelis.
America.
That's where wars are born, baby.
If you can convince a Christian fundamentalist he's on God's side, he will burn down a village full of women and children without blinking.
I've seen it.
You don't find that in many places in the Western world anymore.
But to get our way, we always have our greatest weapon, way more powerful than any flimsy Iranian nuke.
The word anti-Semite.
Everyone cowers before its power.
It's so loaded that it can fell even the most eloquent Goliath.
The word anti-Semite used to mean someone who hates Jewish people.
Now, it simply means a Gentile that questions anything that Israel does.
Special thanks to Alan Dershowitz and Simon Wiesenthal for their excellent fieldwork on that one.
Pioneering the world of etymological warfare.
And if you object to this, that makes you an anti-Semantic, anti-Semite.
Give no place to the discourse.
So unless you want to be labeled an anti-Semite, I strongly suggest you get out of our way and simply hand over your foreign policy to AIPAC and myself.
That's right.
Easy now.
And nobody gets hurt.
Well, no one, you know.
You Americans, you think you're so free.
Adorable.
All right, Jimmy, come visit sometime.
We miss you.
I miss your Shane upunum.
Okay, that was Benji.
Benji meant not who got calling him.
Bibi, yes, of course we call him Bibi.
Mike McRae, another great.
You know what?
I'm going to go ahead and do my rant right now.
And then because it's about Andrew Breitbart, so I'll do it now and then because I got a call from Andrew Breitbart we'll do after, okay?
Andrew Breitbart died, and he was so desperately tried to be Christopher Hitchens that he copied the whole lingering death thing without the lingering part.
His website, displaying the journalistic integrity he was famous for, reports he died of natural causes.
In other words, wait for the autopsy.
It also referred to him as a brave warrior.
Sure, being a court gesture for right-wing millionaires is my definition of bravery, too.
His fearless revelations about marginal institutions that assist people in poverty is a great loss.
Breitbart leaves behind his wife, four children, and a drippy grease stain on the national political discourse.
His unblinking and fetimin-crazed eyes on television will be much missed.
And here he is calling in.
Hey, Jimmy, this is Andrew Breitbart.
Hope I'm not interrupting some hateful leftist greed that you and your comrades are spewing over your mainstream media airwaves at KPFK because liberals are racist.
But I thought I'd call you and let you all know that I am alive and well.
And by that, I mean that I'm dead and in hell.
But you know what?
You know what?
What?
As opposed to being in that putrid liberal cesspool that is Los Angeles, I am finally surrounded by like-minded conservatives who understand the imperative of smaller government, especially since we are now under the thumb of a particularly oppressive dictatorship.
But let me tell you, and make no mistake about it, Satan's hell has nothing, nothing, my friends, on Obama's America.
Even Lucifer himself doesn't have the audacity to try and impose socialized medicine on all of us damned souls, primarily because our bodies instantly reconstitute themselves after each torturous vivisection or immolation.
But I can tell you this, my friend, that hell is just as inefficient of a bureaucracy as the federal government.
My first day here, I was drinking lava with Strom Thurmond and Ben Astor Tarlton and are attending Torture Demons Goldgorth and Vasplatt.
Instead of making sure we were seriously chugging that magma, spent most of their time bitching about their Kush pensions to each other and taking 15-minute breaks at every conceivable opportunity as per their blood-sucking union mandate.
And by that, I mean they're literally in a blood-sicking union.
We get bled dry by eyeless humanoid lampreys every Tuesday at 4.15.
But, Jimmy, seriously?
Seriously, my new mission in the afterlife is to expose the fraud, graft, and corruption endemic in big punishment.
Seriously, could some up there please poison James O'Keefe's fruit loop so he can get down here toot sweet and edit a video that makes Satan and his minions look bad?
We are not going to take this anymore.
Hell is full of God-fearing conservatives.
It only stands to reason that we deserve a harrowing afterlife that is guided by Milton Friedman's approach to government.
I mean, he's down here anyway, just ask him about it.
Well, Jimmy, I have to go.
It's time for us to get our eyes gouged out and gargle each other's severed genitals for 200 centuries.
So I'll leave you all to your leftist lies and obvious jokes about how I could possibly have cell phone reception down here.
Don't worry about me.
I remain a defiant soldier for conservative principles in Hades.
I guess I was wrong about everything.
Oh, well, ciao.
Okay, Andrew Breitbart, letting us know what it's like down in hell.
He's upset with big punishment.
Big punishment's got big punishment.
Big punishment.
Wow.
Notice that.
And Paul, do you have a rant?
Well, I didn't come here prepared with one until we were talking before we started rolling, and I started getting really upset at something that the right does, and particularly on Fox News, is they have managed to make words like socialism, activism, and community organizing bad, sound like bad things.
These are principles that if you believe in Jesus, that Jesus espoused.
Putting your action, what you believe, putting it into action.
I guess what pisses me off is that people don't call them on it when they use it.
When they have an opposing point of view, why don't they say, you're using socialism like it's a bad word?
Socialism means that you, you know, you don't let people lay on the sidewalk that, you know, that have cancer.
Jesus likes competition, Paul, so that's anti-Jesus.
So it's immoral to be a socialist.
And that's the other thing that bothers me is the idea that you can't have a free market economy and socialism at the same time, as if they're mutually exclusive.
As if we don't.
As if we don't and haven't for quite some time.
Right, yes.
Okay, Jesus was a community organizer.
Yeah, he was.
Absolutely.
I mean, more community organizing than that.
Hi, two shows want to let you know about.
If you're in Cincinnati, are you in the Cincinnati area?
I'll be there March 15th through 18th at Go Bananas Comedy Club.
That's right.
Telling jokes March 15th through 18th.
Also, March 24th, March 24th.
That's a Saturday in Los Angeles.
It's left, right, and ridiculous at the Improv Lab at the Improv Lab on Melrose.
That's right.
So, you know, it's the video show we do, and guests guests are tentatively included.
Jenk Uger, David Feldman, Frank Conniff, Jake Uger from The Young Turks, tentatively scheduled to appear on that show.
So it's going to be a great show.
If you've ever seen Left, Right, and Ridiculous, you know how much fun it is.
So there's links for all those shows over at JimmyDoorcomedy.com, March 24th.
We'll see you at the Improv Lab.
Great show.
Okay, today's show was written by Steve Rosenfield, Frank Honiff, Robert Yasamura, Mike McRae, Steph Samurano.
Hey, and if you want to see Mike McRae, he's going to be this weekend, March 8th through 11th.
He's at the Dallas Improv, the Dallas Improv.
Go see Mike McRae there or check him out at mikemcray.com.
The hilarious song at the top of today's show was done by the comedian Henry Phillips, who can be found at henryphillips.com coming to a town near you soon.
I want to take time out right now to thank the two people who lend their talents and time to the show.
Frank Pulaski at Dreamtime Films takes some of the bits we do on the show and he puts video to them and they are amazing.
And I also want to thank Sean James, who takes care of our computers at the Jimmy Door show.
He does a great job for us.
And if you want, if you have any trouble with your Macintosh, he can fix it for you right over the internet.
It's amazing to watch.
Okay, how do you get a hold of him?
You just email him at machelp at seanjames.com and you spell Sean, S-H-A-U-N.
Okay, that's our show.
Thanks for listening.
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