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April 15, 2011 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Jimmy Dore, this is Sam Elliott.
Howdy.
I'm a big fan of the show, and I just wanted to tell you to keep fighting the good fight.
And most importantly, don't go changing on us.
And I mean that.
Take my acting, for instance.
I'll play a guy who sounds like this than a guy who sounds like this.
That's pretty much my arsenal.
Get out get so much work.
I turn down great parts every month.
All because I refuse to budge from who I am.
They ask if I can do gay.
I say, is gay enough, you son of a bitch.
And they say, you're hired.
It's called respect.
They tell me my character is Spanish.
I say, kiss my ass, poor favour.
That's a little something called integrity.
So pour some of that on your steak and keep chewing.
Because you're going to need a full belly where we're going.
Hit me back on the cell.
Oh yeah!
It's the Jimmy Dore show.
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's hard to talk to you, Kevin.
So sit back or sit up or keep driving.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore.
Hey, everybody, welcome to the show.
I'm in studio joined by Ben Zelovanski from Ben and Alex.tv.
Hi, Ben.
How are you?
Hello, Jimmy.
Nice to be here.
Also joined by Paul Gil Martin from TBS's Dinner in a Movie and the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast.
Hi, Paul.
Hello, Jimmy.
And I'm also joined by John Corbett, writer extraordinaire for the show.
Hi, John.
How are you doing?
Doing well, Jimmy.
Thanks for stopping in.
I got to see John do a little stand-up the other night, too.
How was it?
Oh, it was fantastic.
Are you kidding me?
All right.
So what is coming up on today's show?
Let me get this straight.
Catherine Zeta Jones has been hospitalized for mental illness, yet Donald Trump roams.
Donald Trump, the nicest attention whore who ever race baited to up his profile for a primary, has been acting crazier than a redneck birther for a month now.
And well, what is what is that kind of behavior going?
A new polling shows Donald Trump has nearly doubled his support among Republican voters.
Oh, okay.
Wow, but it doubled that.
What is that?
He's not like he's in the lead or anything.
He is now topping the list in a new CNN opinion research poll.
Okay, well, that's just with the crazy right wing.
It's not like the independent Trump is falling even stronger with independents.
He's at 24%.
Okay, well, we're going to talk about the Trump and all his, what it means, his appeal, okay?
And also coming up, Barack Obama gave his response to the Paul Ryan budget, and he really hit some liberal notes.
Let me be absolutely clear.
I will preserve these health care programs as a promise we make to each other in the society.
I will not allow Medicare to become a voucher program that leaves seniors at the mercy of the insurance industry.
That's right, vow to protect Medicare, and that's a relief.
I felt almost as relieved when he made that pledge to protect Medicare as when he made his other pledge about healthcare.
Remember, any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange, a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, costs, and track records of a variety of plans, including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest.
See, and that's why we have a public option today, because he gave his word.
All right, we're going to talk about Barack Obama becoming a liberal in words, and we're going to wait for his action.
We'll see also coming up, a Wisconsin Republican congressman who makes $174,000 a year told a bunch of public school teachers that he was worse off than them.
I guarantee you, most of you, I guarantee it, more debt than all of you.
That's right.
He's got more debt than all of them.
Yeah.
And if teachers and policemen and firemen ever make six-figure income, they're going to find out just how crappy a life it can be.
And if you want to raise revenues, that's the big game.
We're talking about cutting spending and raising revenues.
Eric Cantor thinks you got to be a wizard to raise money.
And how are you going to raise revenues?
Do you just raise taxes and through a magic wand, you're going to produce more money?
Okay.
Well, in his defense, he did go to Hogwarts Business School and has a degree in financial wizardry.
We're going to talk about how we raise revenues coming up.
That, plus, the Republicans have vowed that their main job is to turn our economy around and start creating jobs.
So naturally, they've been spending most of their time fighting abortion.
Senator Kyle said that Planned Parenthood spent 90% of their time performing abortions, which, of course, was only off by 87%.
But he had a good excuse for it.
I just want to give it to you verbatim here.
It says his remark was not intended to be a factual statement.
Okay, so, and Senator Kyle is not meant to be an actual senator, just a blowhard who says whatever dishonest crap pops into his head.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, Tuesdays with more on Oh My God segment, we have an interview coming up.
The producers and directors of American, the Bill Hicks story.
Bill Hicks, one of my favorite comedians.
There's a documentary out about him, and we're going to interview the filmmakers.
Plus, we talked to Paul Gilmartin about his new podcast.
And there's a lot more coming up on today's Jimmy Dore Show.
Music Time for another installment of Oh My God.
Okay, it's time for the Oh My God segment.
And just as a little, we'll give you a little taste.
I was watching Fox News, and what are we going to need to get us out of this financial disaster we're in?
Only an informed and educated public, which is our goal here at Fox, can restore fiscal sanity.
Okay, that's only an informed public, which is their goal there at Fox.
That was just a little fun.
Now, here's the real, here's the real clip.
Michelle Bachman, now they've been coming after Planned Parenthood pretty heavy, right?
Now, Michelle Bachman, she said a bunch of crazy stuff that the founding fathers got rid of slavery in the Constitution.
She said that kind of thing.
She said, she's the death panels, the whole deal.
And the shot herd around the world in the wrong Lexington.
That's correct.
She was in the wrong state.
So she's gotten a lot of things wrong over and over.
And she said this about Planned Parenthood recently.
Do you know that Planned Parenthood is a billion-dollar a year entity?
They call themselves nonprofit, but at the same time, the executive director of Planned Parenthood in Illinois said they want to become the lens crafter of big abortion in Illinois.
Okay, I guess.
So does that make the Tea Party the IKEA of assholes?
By the way, they didn't say that.
They said that they were going to be the lens crafters of planned parenthood.
That's family planning.
That's what they said.
They're going to be the lens crafters of family planning.
Do you not have a sign that says get an abortion in about an hour?
In about an hour.
Okay.
No, they do not have that sign.
Or get one abortion, get the second one free.
Or an abortion with sunglasses.
You can get one that changes when the light.
Yeah, with the light.
Sure.
It's not sensitive.
Ollie is just shaking his head like, oh, my.
A lot of cutting today.
A lot of cutting.
So, but I want to, and where's one more?
Can I play one more clip inside the oh my God segment?
Now, this is from Glenn Beck.
And it starts out crazy.
And then at the end, because he's leaving, right?
He's leaving Fox News.
And he had this to say.
Why?
And I don't know.
And he, I don't know.
I don't really know what it means.
If you listen to it all the way through, I'm not sure.
Well, let's listen.
One year from now.
You on the left will be crapping yourself so much.
You haven't crapped in your pants as much as you will in a year from now as you did since you were a child.
Maybe more.
You'll be making more.
You'll crap yourself more than when you were a baby.
And you will find Jesus.
You will suddenly find religion and you will be kneeling at some altar lighting candles every day, praying to Jesus that Glenn Beck would please just do five o'clock on the Fox News channel.
There's my prediction.
All right.
Okay, now it sounds crazy and everything, but I'm not sure what he's saying.
I think he's trying to woo Depends as a sponsor.
That is what it is.
I'm thinking, how does he know how much I crapped?
It sounds like what he's saying is that if he leaves Fox, he's going to go after liberals even harder, and you'll wish for the day that he was just doing Fox at 5 o'clock.
That's what it is.
Because he's going to really have free to be completely sane.
It's goodbye restraint with Glenn Beck.
I just don't get the connection between crapping and finding Jesus.
Maybe he sounds like he knows something we don't.
There's a bit of a left turn there.
You're going to crap so much you find Jesus.
I've nearly found God a couple times, but that was I peed enough to see an angel once.
In the snow, though, right?
What is the obsession?
What is the obsession with the right wing predicting?
I think it's so that they don't have to look at how they're harming average people in the present moment.
And because it's easier to scare people about the future than it is about the present.
Right.
Well, and because once you predict something, you never have to say it again unless we're right.
Yes.
Right.
You can like a year from now, if he is successful, he'll point to this.
And if not, it's like an awful lot of people.
But if you watch the Jon Stewart show, that's the beauty of it, is they have all these interns scouring things and holding people's feet to the fire.
Yeah, but it doesn't stop them from saying it.
You know what I mean?
No, but I think at least they're held accountable to the left wing.
You know, unfortunately, the right wing probably doesn't watch Stewart.
That reminds me, I'm putting out, we'd like to get 34 interns.
If anybody out there wants to be an intern, we'd like to get 34 just watch TV totally all the time for us.
No, I don't know how many.
I'm sure he doesn't have that many, but we'd like to have 34 if anybody would like to apply.
No college credit.
No college credit.
This has been, oh my God.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Okay.
So we didn't maybe hit the oh my god that hard today, but it was fun.
It was a fun.
Oh my God.
Now let's talk about Barack Obama's speech, shall we?
Shall we talk about Barack Obama's speech?
We shall.
Yes.
So he said, so he said some good things, right?
He said this.
Let me be absolutely clear.
I will preserve these health care programs as a promise we make to each other in this society.
I will not allow Medicare to become a voucher program that leaves seniors at the mercy of the insurance industry.
Now, do you believe him when he says that?
Does everybody believe him?
I guess we'll see.
I still have to do that.
Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange, a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, costs, and track records of a variety of plans, including a public option.
Okay.
Well, here's me.
I still believe that guy.
Here's the difference to me between the two.
It's easier to protect something through veto than promising something that you have to create and get through a good legislative vote.
Okay, he made some.
So I do believe him.
He made some more.
Excuse me.
He made some more promises.
We cannot afford $1 trillion worth of tax cuts for every millionaire and billionaire in our society.
We can't afford it.
And I refuse to renew them again.
Okay, so when he says something, he means he knew to him once, but he's going to refuse to renew them again.
And it's easy for me to take him at his word because he said this before.
And understand this.
If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain, when I'm in the White House, I'll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself.
I'll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States of America because workers deserve to know that somebody is standing in the court.
Just to be clear, Jimmy, is that the same guy?
Okay, I think it is the same guy.
Are you sure?
That's not a different Barack Obama.
So he's very forcefully, he's on record as saying one thing and then not doing it.
He's going to walk the picket line, but he's going to be on the cell phone giving away rights for middle-class people.
So that's why it's like I got really excited when I heard his speech.
I'm like, oh, and I was like, I am such a sucker.
I am so easy.
He takes me in every time with his pretty words and his nice skin.
He just, oh, and I'm like, no, not this time, buddy, because you're getting a little gray.
You're getting a little gray around the temples now, and you're no longer that pretty.
I can see through him a little bit more now.
Well, I have these clips to back me up.
He didn't provide the public option.
He did sign a healthcare plan that didn't have that in it.
He did not walk the picket line with the, he didn't stand up for workers in Wisconsin.
They don't know they have somebody fighting in their corner.
Yet I'm supposed to believe he's going to protect Medicare.
He's going to protect Social Security.
I don't think he's going to.
In fact, he even kind of let on during his speech where he said that, you know, I might not get everything I want.
He's already conceding.
He's starting from a point of concession instead of drawing hard line.
Again, it was.
Are we being Fox News now trying to predict what he's going to do?
Yes.
Yes.
Let's not do that.
Okay.
Well, all right.
Well, I predict that a year from now, you will be crapping in your house.
Once Medicare goes away.
Okay, well, he had, you know what?
He did make some great points that haven't been being made.
Like the whole thing is that the right wing have been, and corporations have been controlling the debate.
They've been framing the debate as we need to cut, cut, cut, and we can't afford things.
We can't afford health care.
We can't afford Medicare for people in America.
You hear people say this over and over.
We can't afford this stuff, which of course we can.
Every other country in the world can afford to give health care to not only its senior citizens, but to all its citizens.
So of course, the number one economy in the world would be able to find a way to do that.
I think we would.
So he finally makes the case.
He finally publicly kind of pushed back on all that we can't afford to talk.
Paints a vision of our future that is deeply pessimistic.
So he's talking about the Republicans, Paul Ryan's plan.
It's a vision that says if our roads crumble and our bridges collapse, we can't afford to fix them.
If they're bright young Americans who have the drive and the will, but not the money to go to college, we can't afford to send them.
Go to China and you'll see businesses opening research labs and solar facilities.
South Korean children are outpacing our kids in math and science.
They're scrambling to figure out how they put more money into education.
Brazil is investing billions in new infrastructure and can run half their cars, not on high-priced gasoline, but on biofuels.
And yet, we are presented with a vision that says the American people, the United States of America, the greatest nation on earth, can't afford any of this.
I think I have a solution for all the things.
What?
A way that we can fix our bridges, we can lower health care costs, and we can cure unemployment.
Oh, how we do all that.
We take all the overweight people and we put them to work repairing bridges.
That way they have a job and they lose weight.
So our health care costs are lower.
Paul, that's why you're on this show.
That's why you're here.
Well, I'd like to have, you know, nice roads and bridges.
I'd like to have educated kids, but I just don't want to get out of Afghanistan.
Okay, and we have to move on.
I got a phone call from Mel Gibson called me.
You know, he got fired from the Hangover 2.
You know that?
Yeah.
And they just fired Liam Neeson, too, and he had something to say about it.
Hey, Jimmy, this is Mel Gibson speaking.
I just wanted to give you a buzz and tell you how much I enjoy your show.
You see, it's a political program, so there's no chance of hearing my name dragged through the mud.
Everyone else in the media just loves to pick on old Mel.
Kick me while I'm down, ostracize me, persecute me.
It's like I'm a Jew in 1940s Germany, except that I don't deserve it.
As you probably heard, I got fired from Hangover 2 because Zach Galloff or whatever his name is, was uncomfortable with me because I got hammered a few years back and said all that Jew stuff.
Well publicized all over the Jewspapers.
So they replaced me with that McGoon, Liam Neeson.
I don't care.
It doesn't bother me.
I went off and made my weird beaver movie and I'm doing just fine.
But now they fire Liam Neeson also, but no one in the media has said peep about it.
You know why, Jimmy?
It's because he didn't say anything bad about Jews.
That's all that matters.
He could be caught riping pigs and juggling babyheads during production in Thailand.
He and Gary Glitter could be running a train on some Vietnamese boy in his trailer, as long as he doesn't criticize the Hebrew nationalists over at Zion's Gate Films.
He's golden.
That's how it works in Himywood.
Anyway, give me a call back, Jimmy.
Maybe you and I could go put on some loincloths and go spearfishing and praying some weekend, or I could come over and beat my wife for you.
Whatever.
Give me a call.
Okay, wow.
Malik's got a lot on his mind.
I feel like he's just keeps digging that hole.
You know what his voice is.
He sounds like he's in a better place.
He sounds like he's matured.
It sounds like he's mature.
He's softened a little.
You know, let's move.
I just want to let everybody know I'm in studio with Ben Zelovansky, Paul Gilmartin, and Jonathan Corbett.
So Donald Trump has been shooting his mouth off.
Yeah, I know.
It sounds crazy.
He's a first.
He says he's burning for.
So he's been saying stuff like this.
I'm only interested in Libya if we keep the oil.
If we don't keep the oil, I'm not interested.
Okay, see, he's got a good foreign policy.
He had this to say.
He called in the Fox and Friends.
He had this to say.
When you look at what the world is doing to us, they don't respect us.
They don't respect our leaders.
They certainly don't respect Obama.
When you look at what's happening on the outside end, meaning what China's doing, what OPEC's doing, what many other countries are doing to us, where you call up about a credit card and you're calling India because they outsource so many jobs.
You look at our unemployment.
You look at our lack of jobs, our lack of good jobs and real jobs.
A lot of things can be done to reduce that deficit, and I mean really quickly.
Boy, he hit about all the pop.
All the populace that China, you got to call it India, the OPEC, and he's this bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
He's just pushing every button he possibly can push.
I'm sick of the world's lack of respect for Obama causing companies to outsource jobs.
Yeah, means that.
You can draw a straight line between those two things.
Yes, that's what's very logical thinking.
Well, that's what happens.
You know, GE doesn't respect Obama, so they send their jobs to China.
I mean, I think then you got to call India if you want to talk to him.
Go ahead.
I think if this country is on the verge of bankruptcy, we need somebody that has a history of over-leveraging.
I think that's who we need at the helm.
Oh, sure.
That would be him, right?
In the 90s, he was over-leveraged and bankrupt.
Bankruptcies.
Sure, lots of people.
Yeah.
All in.
I think at this point, let's just go all in with Donald Trump.
But I think people, I think he does have an appeal.
Like, I remember when he was coming out saying stuff about the Iraq war, it appealed to me.
And then he saw, and now he's saying stuff like this, which I think is appealing to a lot of people.
Foreign affairs is we take care of ourselves first, okay?
We don't build schools in Afghanistan.
We go to Afghanistan, we build a road, we build a school.
Two days later, they blow up the road, they blow up the school, we start building the road and the school again.
In the meantime, we can't build schools in Alabama, in New Orleans, in Texas, in New York.
We're spending trillions and trillions of dollars.
My thing and my doctrine would be build, build, build.
I agree with him there.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
So then he says something like that, and you're like, well, why?
And you go, well, why isn't anyone else saying that?
Like, that's a salient point that needs to be made every day in the media.
There isn't even a Democrat out there that makes that point daily.
But does he know that if he's president, he can't hire himself to do the building?
Oh, no.
That's the loophole.
It would be the Trump school in Afghanistan.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a gilded school, all gold?
He'd be the guy.
The reason that kids have a low reading level is they're not sitting in a Baroque chair learning.
That is a big problem.
You know, his personal home is the top two towers of the Trump whatever, but 30,000 square feet.
Have you ever seen the lobby of Trump Towers?
No, I haven't.
It looks like Liberace decorated it.
Yeah.
So it's tacky and gaudy.
Yes, it's like a 10-foot massive T in gold.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I would say the one thing about Trump, though, is I wouldn't take him too seriously in that he might be polling first among Republicans, but you should consider that two and three are Ted Nugent and Dennis Haysburg.
There's still a lot of time.
Very good.
Oh, you know what?
The actor from 24, is he a right-wing?
Yeah.
No, they just like him.
Oh, so he's showing up in a lot of.
He's showing up in a lot of polls.
I got you.
Okay, you know, actually, Donald Trump actually called me.
Really?
Yes, he called in.
Hello, Jimmy.
This is Donald Trump.
Now that I'm maybe kind of sort of running for president, I decided to call into a bunch of these political radio shows to discuss the issues that face our nation.
You're welcome.
But with the wars, unemployment, the deficit, global warming, I'm the only candidate out there asking the tough questions, namely, where's the birth certificate?
And show me the birth certificate.
I don't understand why can't Barack Obama produce a piece of paper with his name on it.
I can produce a piece of paper with my name on it.
I can also produce a piece of garbage reality show with my name on it.
Not to mention a line of fine products like Trump Ice Bottled Water, Trump Network Vitamins, and my brand new enlargement device designed specifically for the male personal area, the Trump Pump.
Seriously, I'm such a soulless, money-grubbing sellout.
I make Gene Simmons look like the Dalai Lama.
All right, so now that you're on board with my candidacy, I expect to hear you telling your listeners to vote for me.
After all, who better to run a country in the midst of a financial meltdown than an insufferable phony who couldn't even turn a profit in the casino business?
You fired.
I mean, call me back.
All right, that's the Trumpster leaving us a voicemail.
Or I was watching him yesterday.
He was on, he wasn't on.
They were talking about him on the Chris Hardball show.
And somebody referred to him as the Donald.
Yeah.
And Chris goes, don't tell him the kind of letter.
Don't do that on here.
How about the Donald Llama?
The Donald Llama.
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you Hello, Jimmy.
This is Liam Nathan.
I would like to respond to the accusations made previously on your show by a certain anthropodium anti-Semite, the utterance of whose name shall not besmirch my lips.
The notion that I was relieved of my duties on the Hangover 2 because of some behavioral misstep of my own is patiently false!
Lies!
The truth is that I simply am scheduling conflicts with my new film, Class of the Titans 2.
Stay clashy!
Now I'm from, you don't take flanderous insults lightly.
Therefore, I am publicly challenging Mel Gibson to a chalenery, an Irish duel.
Just tomorrow.
Griffiths Park near the observatory.
He is allowed to bring the following items.
One quarter staff.
One dagger, blade no longer than eight inches, one bag of milled oats for sustenance.
And one Hebridean songstress of his choosing to sing him an ancestral tune in Gaelic as he dies of his wounds.
Be there, Mel Gibson, or be forever known as a coward throughout the seven nations.
Back at all.
Love the show, by the way, Jimmy.
Always good to have another strong progressive voice out there.
Okay, we're back on the show, and what's coming up on the second half?
Well, we're going to have Jim Hightower stops by the interview with the directors and producers of American, the Bill Hicks story.
My favorite comedian of documentary came out about him.
Plus, Tuesdays with Moron segment.
We talked to Paul about his new podcast and a lot more.
But right now, it's Jim Hightower.
He's talking about the corporate tax dodging for fun and profit.
We're getting an awful lot of high decibel noise these days from a flock of right-wing governors and congress critters who are screeching incessantly about the urgent need for, quote, shared sacrifice to cope with multi-billion dollar budget deficits.
The only way to cope, they insist, is to whack unemployment benefits, Medicare, education budgets, public employees, poverty programs, worker rights, anti-pollution efforts, and, well, nearly all services for ordinary folks.
Sorry, screeched the whackers, but the budgets are busted and taxpayers are overburdened, so everyone must do their part by giving up even essential programs.
Everyone?
Who's that hiding over there in the bushes?
Gee, it's General Electric, the global conglomerate that has made tax dodging its chief business.
In the past five years, GE has amassed $26 billion in profits just from its American operations and paid exactly zero in taxes.
Far from paying its share of the cost for public services from which it, its honchos, and investors so richly benefit, GE has used its army of tax lawyers and lobbyists to get what amounts to a government payment of more than $4 billion from us taxpayers.
Wow, that money could keep a lot of teachers on the job.
But the tax code is not the only thing manipulated by this behemoth.
While assorted media outlets covered the shameful tax dodge by GE, one did not.
NBC.
Guess who is a principal owner of that Network.
Right.
It took the network a week to mention the story, and only then, after its self-serving silence was exposed and mocked by Jon Stewart and others.
This is Jim Hightower saying, meanwhile, GE is doing its own whack job on its workers by demanding that they agree to cuts in union wages, pensions, and health coverage.
It's a concerted effort by corporate elites and their politicians to crush America's middle class.
Go back to bed, America.
Your government is in control again.
Then you people say he is the best American comedian the country has ever produced.
His influence lives on.
Please welcome Bill Hicks.
I'm going to share with you a vision that I have because I love you.
Hey, buddy, we're Christians.
"We don't like what you said." I said, "Then forgive me." He was just completely unique, like he was from somewhere else.
He was going to be the comic that shook people up.
We had this Iraq war thing happen.
First of all, this needs to be said.
There never was a war.
How can you say that, Bill?
A war is when two armies are fighting.
Bill is searching for something to like take his comedy to other levels.
How about a positive LSD story?
Wouldn't that be newsworthy?
Today, a young man on ass has realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration.
That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.
There is no such thing as death.
Life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves.
Here's Tom with the weather.
My boys have not heard.
The questions were not asked that I wanted it to be asked.
And what you find out is they don't want you to talk about ideas on TV.
Bill had this desperate desire to get names for America to see his point of view.
That's what being a patriot means.
They question the powers.
You're right.
You're right.
Not the f ⁇ you want to tell you how to think.
You're fucking right!
It's not enough just to make jokes about it.
You have to kick over some tables.
By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself.
Okay, and that was a clip from the new movie, American, the Bill Hicks story.
And if you listen to this show, you probably have heard me mention Bill Hicks' name before.
And there's a movie this Friday premiering in Los Angeles at the Lemley Sunset 5.
It's American, the Bill Hicks story.
Now, 17 years after his death, Bill Hicks has taken a permanent place in the cultural landscape and is widely recognized as one of the greatest American comedians of the modern era.
Described as many things, philosopher, social satirist, even preacher, Hicks was ultimately a performer who for many changed what comedy could be.
He believed that comedy played a vital role in any free and just society and that the comedian, a free spirit detached from political or corporate agendas, was able to voice what others wouldn't.
Challenging convention and presenting ideas that would stimulate the minds of the audiences, Hicks had no difficulty making people laugh.
But what he really wanted to do was make them think.
His life tragically cut short at the age of 32.
His timeless material lives on, revered today by both comedians, many who cite him as an influence, me being one of them, and fans alike.
Bill Hicks' remarkable journey is brought to life in the documentary featuring feature American, the Bill Hicks story, combining revealing new interviews from those who knew him best with a bold new photographic animation technique.
American, take the audience inside Hicks' unfolding life story using archival footage and animated photographs, many from Hicks' personal collection and previously unseen.
It's a film that innovates, inspires, and outrages while being funny as hell in the process.
And I'm here with the filmmakers, Matt Harlock and Paul Thomas.
How are you, fellas?
Hi there.
Now, I actually got to see this film, and it is great.
That technique you're talking about with the animation was fantastic.
It really brought stuff to it was a technique I hadn't seen before in a film, so it made it visually interesting for me.
But tell me how you guys got interested in Bill Hicks and what made you want to do a movie about him.
Well, Bill was somebody who has always been of cultural significance in the UK.
As you can tell from my voices, that's where we're from.
And he really made a splash.
A performance that he did in 1991 at Montreal just for last got broadcast on Channel 4 in the UK.
And it really became one of those rarer and rarer things nowadays, a water cooler moment, where the next day people were saying, did you see this guy?
And he really did make an impact on a lot of people like myself, who was a student at that time, you know, open to new ideas and kind of found a guy who seemed to embody lots of the things that we were interested in.
You know, free speech, you know, sort of toppling idols and essentially, you know, finding out what the boundaries of not only comedy, but also performance could be.
Now, Bill Hicks had, I think, three or four HBO specials in the United States and was still a relatively unknown comedian.
And he became famous in the UK because the BBC aired as one of his specials, the thing he did in Montreal.
Wasn't that what they aired?
So he did a show up in Montreal at the Montreal Comedy Festival.
Now, they aired it.
The reason why I think it got such, you know, he got noticed in the UK was because they aired it at a real time, like at 8 p.m.
Wasn't it on at a regular time at night?
Yeah, it was on at regular time and also went out unedited.
So it's a full-length Bill Hicks performance.
We also only had four channels at the time, which meant that, you know, up to a quarter of the UK population saw that in one go.
Oh, okay.
And this channel as well, it's called Channel 4, and its remit was to be provocative and to break new boundaries.
So already that channel's audience was very receptive to someone like Bill coming along.
And, you know, he'd been working in the United States hundreds of nights a year for, you know, 15 years by then.
So it arrived at the UK fully formed and just blew everyone away.
Now, I got, people heard some of his stuff at the clip we played at the top.
And I was lucky enough to see him.
I probably saw him perform, I like to say like 60 times, because he used to come to Chicago four times a year, four weeks a year, and do about 12 shows each week.
And I got to see most of them.
And he was an amazing performer.
You know, he was the intellect of a Lenny Bruce, but he had the performance skills of Jim Carrey.
He was a full comedian.
And he was the kind of comedian that made me want to quit being a comedian.
And I remember when I first saw him down.
Did you also become familiar with him from that special on BBC?
I discovered him years later.
I was working at the BBC making comedy shows and somehow I'd never heard of him.
And someone gave me a VHS tape.
And that's something we still see today.
People just discovering Hicks for the first time.
Some people don't even know he's dead.
And so what gave you the idea to do a movie?
Well, I think that we looked at the fact that there'd been one documentary in the UK which had been produced the year that Bill died.
So without any kind of like historical sort of significance in terms of the viewpoint of that film.
So that one was called It's Just a Ride.
Yeah, it was a sort of shorter piece.
It was a TV thing.
It was about 40 minutes long and it was essentially some talking heads, famous comedian saying that why they thought he was great, interspersed with clips.
And I think that we felt that maybe his full life story had never really been told.
And so what we tried to do with the film was to not only tell Bill's life story from the point of the people who really knew him, not just sort of comedians who like liked him, but people who were intimately involved with his life, but also to try and weave the clips the performances that you see in the film into that story fabric so that they become seamless and you understand at each point when he goes on stage what he's been going through for example when he was trying to get clean and then yes it's a really rich film it's really got everything in it it exceeded my expectations put it that way you know i think it's a film that is uh
worthy of Bill Hicks'talent and genius.
You know, you get so many interesting interviews with him and stuff that I hadn't heard about it or known about.
Like after he had gotten sick, he died of pancreatic cancer when he was 32.
And after he had gotten diagnosed, how he, you know, that whole saga with the David Letterman show.
So he had his final performance on David Letterman, which was edited.
They cut it.
And you want to talk about that a little bit?
Well, that's just one of those, you know, parts of Bill folklore, which has become, you know, sort of magnified over the last 16 years.
I mean, as some people listening may know, you know, Bill's mother Mary was invited on The Letterman show 16 years after Bill died in January of last year, where Dave essentially apologised for cutting that clip and played the offending segment.
And, you know, it's kind of an unprecedented sort of tribute to Bill.
I mean, I can't imagine another performer that would have had, you know, sort of his mother invited on a talk show, a big talk show, in order to, you know, sort of dismiss rumours.
So it's one of those bits of, you know, sort of Bill folklore which has become very much built up.
And I think that, you know, the incident is just indicative of, you know, what Bill had to face during his career, which is that, you know, TV networks aren't really into people broadcasting ideas.
Right.
Yeah.
So he, it was his, so that was it.
I think it was in November of 93 that he was on The David Letterman Show.
And so he taped it.
Everybody loved the set.
And people don't know, when you do a stand-up show on a late night talk show, they go over your set with a fine tooth comb.
They make sure.
And so they did that to him.
He did the set.
People loved it.
And then they cut it from the broadcast of the show.
And three months later, he was dead.
And I don't think anybody knew he had cancer when he did that.
He kept it kind of secret.
And the thing I like about the film is that I heard of, like, when he went back to visit his family and the stuff that he told his sister and his mother about how he didn't want to be alone anymore.
And, like, all that stuff I had never heard.
And what was it like meeting the people that knew Bill Hicks?
Well, I mean, it was a fascinating journey for us.
You know, one of those things that we weren't prepared for was quite how amazing they were as storytellers.
They all carried, like, a bit of Bill's DNA with them.
And so they were, for example, you know, Dwight Slade, who went on to become a performer in his own right, was doing amazing impressions, not only of him, but of an argument between Bill's parents and, you know, Bill in the middle and Dwight, you know, sort of watching this go on.
And all these interviewees kind of recreated narrative moments for us, which is why the documentary kind of takes more of a narrative approach in terms of the photo animation technique that you described.
Those interviewees really created time and place for us, and we wanted to be able to give that to the audience.
Oh, and so what do you think, like, Bill Hicks is still having an impact today on people.
Now, you were a comedian when you became aware of him?
No, no, I was a comedy producer, so I was making comedy shows.
Oh, comedy producer.
Oh, so as a producer, do you see, I mean, do you still see his influence in the comedy world?
Hugely, but on such a high level.
I don't see it directly in people's acts, but in terms of the permission he gave people and the new territory he broke, I think, yeah, he opened huge swathes of new ground for today's comics.
But I don't really see...
Also, what's changed in the States, of course, is that it is now more permissive to broach certain subjects on screen.
I mean, it's still not as far as Bill would have gone, but that's an interesting change as well.
No, the people who aren't familiar with Bill Hicks, they would, you know, he could be described as like, if you like Dennis Leary, you would like Bill Hicks more because he would be like the real deal.
Like, Dennis Leary is like a facade of what Bill Hicks was, right?
And I don't remember because I was high when I saw the movie.
But did you talk about the controversy that happened with Dennis Leary and Bill Hicks in the movie?
I think that's one of those things that people, and particularly comedians, so we were at the comedy store last night doing a screening there.
People ask about a lot.
It's one of those things that, unfortunately, when you're, you know, making a feature film and you have an hour and a half to try and get a story in, that certain things just kind of fall away.
And obviously that controversy was something that was, you know, remarked upon at the time.
But in terms of, like, Bill's overall life and the arc and what he achieved with his career, it was just one of those things that, unfortunately, fell by the wayside.
But it was a really interesting facet of, you know, how comedy works and how comedians work with each other and sometimes maybe nick bits here and there.
Yeah, so what did you learn that surprised you guys making the film?
I think the things that we were most surprised by were, you know, we had an idea of what Bill was like from his onstage persona as the guy all dressed in black smoking cigarettes and sort of, you know, whirling around in this ball of energy, spitting out invective and light opinions.
And you find out from the people who really knew him that he was actually quite a quiet guy.
He was a listener.
He was someone who was not always the life and soul of the party and was very much into what his friends were doing.
He wasn't the kind of, like, the big sort of show-off guy.
And so that was really nice to find out because, you know, obviously what we were trying to do with the film was to give people an understanding of who he was as a person which would inform who he was as a performer.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Also within the film, what we found out from the interviews, but also since, is just the way that Bill touched people's lives was that he really inspired them.
So a lot of his friends, it was always Bill who was driving them forward to become the best they could be.
So David, his friend who was a photographer, you know, Bill told him, you're brilliant, you should take it up as a profession.
And David did follow that through and now is a stunning photographer.
Kevin Booth is now making feature films about the American drug war and various other, you know, very political subjects.
And again, Bill gave him so much belief.
But you find this with people that we've met along the way.
Sometimes someone just met Bill for one night in a bar and spoke to him and said that that conversation has left the biggest impact on their lives.
So I think it's that.
It's finding out that this inspirational guy on stage was a very similar person in real life.
Well, yeah, I'll never forget the first time I saw him.
I was a comedian in Chicago for about three or four years and I was pretty sure I was the best comedian ever.
And I heard that.
Yeah.
And then I saw Bill Hicks and I was like, I heard about this guy.
Let's watch him.
And I really, I really came close to quitting that night.
I went and got drunk and kind of banged my head against the wall.
And then I realized that, you know, because I knew I could never be that way.
I could never be like, I saw George Carlin.
I was like, I could maybe, I could maybe be that good someday.
Or Lenny Bruce.
I was like, I'd certainly be as funny as him.
But Bill Hicks, there was just no way it could just, he was just on a whole nother level.
And thank God.
Well, this show is probably influenced by him.
It just changed everything that I was doing comedically.
I was being a cutesy, kind of an idiot, trying to get laughs no matter what.
And then I kind of stopped doing that and started to talk about things that I felt like talking about.
And, you know, it changed my life.
As the movie, has Bill Hicks changed your lives?
Yeah, absolutely.
We spent the last four and a half years bringing his story to the screen because we wanted to, you know, give the opportunity for people who maybe hadn't encountered him before to engage with his work.
So absolutely he has.
I mean, I think one of the things that we get a lot because we're the filmmakers who've been at the center of this thing for quite a while is we get fans emailing us all the time.
And the thing that we see most often is Bill Hicks changed my life or he changed the way I saw the world.
And I think that's like, you know, a really amazing thing for someone who essentially works in nightclubs to be able to give people.
I just was, I just did a show last night with one of my comedy heroes who, who actually said comedy is meaningless and you know I had to stop right there and just say you know everything's meaningless and only has meaning you give it and obviously Bill Hicks' comedy was as meaningful as anything could be.
And what would you like people to know about the movie before we say goodbye?
I guess we'd like to, you know, sort of we made the movie for two sets of people.
There are obviously huge numbers of Bill fans around the world.
He wasn't just popular in the UK, Australia, Canada, and there are great pockets here.
He's a massive name still in Austin.
And you speak to any comedian here or in LA or in New York's Oriental.
They all know who he is and reference him, quite often calling him the comedian's comedian.
But we've also made the film for people who've never heard of who Bill is.
Right.
And the idea is that we've made the film about, you know, a sana and a brother and a friend and the trials and tribulations that he went through.
Essentially, the classic sort of arc of any story, which is that a young kid decides that he's got a dream and he wants to pursue it, and there are huge obstacles along the way.
And essentially, this guy became one of the legendary performers.
And what we're hoping the film can do is help him to get this place on the American cultural timeline, as you said, something that maybe he wasn't able to achieve when he was alive.
I think the film really captures the essence of Bill better than anything.
And it really captures his humanity more than any other thing I've read or seen about Bill.
And it opens tomorrow, right, in Los Angeles at the Lemley.
And I've been talking with Matt Harlack, Paul Thomas, the directors and producers of American, the Bill Hicks story, my favorite comedian.
And if you see the film, he'll be your favorite comedian.
And then it's going to open up around the country, I guess, whenever.
It's going out to about 25 more cities.
We're opening in Seattle and Portland also tomorrow.
And then Austin and Houston the week after that, plus lots more across the Midwest.
So please come out and see it.
Okay.
And do you have a website that they can go to?
We do, absolutely.
Yeah, AmericanTheMovie.com.
And there's lots of clips and great stuff on there.
Okay, Paul, Matt, thank you very much for coming.
Hey, thanks for making the movie.
It was really a great job, and I encourage everybody to go see it.
Thanks a lot, you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, and my thanks to Matt and Paul for stopping in.
We got a couple minutes left in the show, and I wanted to talk to Paul Gilmartin about his new podcast.
Now, Paul, tell us what the name of it is.
It's called The Mental Illness Happy Hour.
And I interview mostly creative people about how mental illness has affected their lives.
Either they suffer from it or they were raised in a household where it was rampant.
But it's not just for people who suffer from it.
It's for people that are interested in the link between creative people.
Although, I just finished interviewing somebody who was a serial felon who as a kid.
You're talking to the chairman of JP Morgan?
He's a friend of mine who used to engage in socio-psychotic behavior.
As a kid to defend himself because he was a stutterer, he would just hit people with things and kept their teeth in a jar.
Wow.
And so I talk, but he talks about his feelings.
Yeah, well, he's turned his life around.
Now he's a nonviolent person who talks about his feelings and opens up.
But we get into that headspace of somebody that resorted to violence to deal with their anxiety.
Now, is he creative or is he just creatively violent?
He was a bank robber.
He was creative.
Yeah, he was creative in a lot of ways.
He was a drug dealer.
He did stuff for the mob.
Yeah.
But yeah, I suppose I kind of pushed the border on that one.
But he's a very funny guy.
Who are some of your guests that you have?
Adam Carolla opened up about growing up in a joyless household.
That was a good one.
Janet Varney, my co-host on Dinner in the Movie, talked about being a teenage girl and having body issues and wanting to kill herself.
Mark Maron was a guest, and we talked about how depression manifests itself in our lives.
If you have mental illness and are interested, or if you just like to laugh at people's pain.
That's right, which is what I like to do.
I've heard you talk.
I haven't heard any of the episodes yet, but I've heard you talk about it on other podcasts.
And the things you've said have helped me already.
Oh, well, thanks.
But right now, so what's the website for that?
Mental illnesshappyhour.com, or the short version is mentalpod.com.
Okay, well, I think it's time.
We're going to check that out, and we'll be listening to those episodes.
Right now, it's time for Tuesdays with Moron.
Beep.
Hey, it's Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, Jimmy, how you doing?
It's Moron.
Hey, Moron.
What's going on, buddy?
Jim, you know me.
I'm easily manipulated to vote against my own economic interests.
You are.
And to blame those lower on the economic ladder for my problems.
What brings you coming?
But the one thing that does bring me comfort, Jim, is that my Lord Jesus the Christ hates exactly the same people that I hate.
Really?
Isn't that nice?
That's great, Moron.
What's on your mind this week?
What have you been watching the news?
Ah, Jim, did you see that guy on NPRs?
Oh, yeah.
He caught him on the secret tape saying that he thought all the tea parties were racist.
The guy from NPR.
Yeah, I know who the guy is.
Well, he screwed themselves, didn't he?
Yeah, he certainly stupid idiots saying to the people that he thought a tea partiers were racist.
Yeah, but it seems like a lot of them are racist, right?
Well, then I don't see...
What do you mean you're not supposed to say it?
And he said it and they got it on tape.
Screw them.
And now they're going to take away all the billions of dollars they give to the NPR lefties.
You know, actually, NPR doesn't get much money from the government.
They get billions of dollars, Jim.
They actually get a little bit over a million dollars.
It's not that much money that NPR gets.
Jim, how could that be?
Mora, I'm telling you, most of the money they get comes from donations and grants and stuff like that.
It's the truth.
Well, then why am I so angry I could spit in your face if it's just a couple of million dollars?
Because you're being manipulated and distracted by the man.
Distracted from what, Jim?
How about the fact that gas just went up to $4 again?
Damn Arabs, Kaddafi.
And that they're crushing unions and lowering your standard of living.
My standard of living.
And taking the money that used to go to working people and funneling it upward on the economic chain to the rich Wall Street bankers.
That's still happening, Jim?
Yes, that's still happening.
God damn it.
What's the mama?
Jimmy says they're still taking all the money and giving it to Wall Street.
No, they're giving it to NPR.
No, Jimmy said they're only giving a few million dollars.
Is he sure?
Yeah, he's sure.
Then why am I so angry?
I can sit in that face.
I know, right?
But why?
It's because we're being manipulated again.
What?
Yeah.
They're giving all the money to the banks.
They're still doing that.
That's what Jimmy said.
No, I said it because it's true, Moron.
I am so sick and a bit to banks ripping us open, the teachers ripping us off, and the unions and cops and the firemen.
Mora, that's not Katie.
Oh, you and Terese gonna watch a movie tonight, buddy?
Yeah, every once in a while, me and my lady go out for a nice dinner.
We get all fancied up, and then we come home and watch a Netflix movie.
Oh, where are you taking her to eat?
Perkins.
Perkins doesn't sound so romantic.
They got a great country club omelet there, Jim.
They do.
They put a special holiday sauce on it.
Good morning, you're going to have a for dinner?
Isn't it great?
You can do whatever you want at Perkins.
And what does Terese get?
She gets the cavitappy.
The what?
She gets the cavitappy with a cream sauce.
That doesn't even sound like a real kind of pasta.
It is at the Perkins.
Well, I let it start getting ready.
Why so soon?
You know it takes me forever to do my hair.
I got something that'll make it go faster, Terese.
What is it?
It's called Hirigami.
Huh?
It's a Hirigami.
What's that, Moron?
Well, you know, the art of folding paper is origami.
Yes, that's called a horagami.
The art of folding hair is hirigami.
Harigami, sure.
For beautiful folded hair fashions, they will amaze you.
Well, how does it work, Moron?
There's no pins or wires.
You just roll it up into the perfect bun.
I don't know how to do that.
No, Teres.
The 30-page glamour guide shows you how.
It's perfect for special occasions, like weddings, parties, or just a dinner and movie night with your husband.
What's this?
Oh, that's a snap-action scrunchie comes with it free.
Hey, Moron, what's the movie you guys are going to be watching?
Oh, we like to watch old movies.
Tonight I'm going to watch Back to School with the Rodney Dangerfield.
Yeah, I like that movie too.
I think the most pivotal scene is probably when Rodney orders pizza for the Laboratory Apes.
I'm not watching that movie.
What do you want to watch?
I want to watch Henry.
Paul Trina, the cereal killer.
Oh, Teresa, I want to watch it.
I hate it.
Come on, man.
I only want it.
I want it.
I want to.
I don't want it.
I got to have a nice night with you.
Wait a minute.
Wow, your hair looks pretty.
Thanks.
It's called the Pony Heart.
Looks nice.
Gotta go, Jim C. Alice moment.
Okay, see you, buddy.
Okay, that was another episode of.
That was a, what do they call it?
Encore.
Classic.
Classic.
That was the pony hot.
The pony heart.
That was a classic moron.
Thanks.
Thanks for bearing with us through that.
And I wanted to.
When I say Barry Withley, I mean if you already heard it once, I like to hear him twice.
I listen to all the morons twice, at least three times sometimes.
And so that, I want to, before we have just a minute left, I got a waitress at a restaurant the other day who was pregnant.
And I don't know how to handle that when that happens because every time she came around the corner, I wanted to jump up and help her.
Hey, sit down.
Let me get it.
How are you doing?
Yeah.
You know, how do you ask a pregnant woman?
Could you go get me some more of this, please?
And hurry it up.
I need some drinks.
We're thirsty.
Well, first of all, you wait until she's done singing happy birthday and clapping.
It's just common courtesy.
It's just, and you know, what do you do?
She got to make a living, but at the same time, it feels so horrible to have a pregnant lady.
It's like, yes.
It's like, can you imagine if the mover showed up and it was a pregnant lady?
Where do you want this?
Not nowhere.
Let me get it for you.
I think I can belittle myself more than that.
I one time was talking to a guy who had AIDS and I was complaining about my knee.
Okay, that's Paul Gilmartin, ladies and gentlemen.
You could hear him on the mental illness happy hour.
And I want to thank everybody who helped write the show.
John Corbett, Ben Zelibansky, Steph Zamorano, Robert Yasamura.
And I also want to thank my guests, Ben Zelavansky, Paul Gilmartin, John Corbett, and Mike McRae, who does the voices.
Wow, what a fantastic.
What a great job he does on all the celebrity voices.
And my producer, Ali Lexa, getting it done.
Thanks for all your help.
And I want to let me remind everybody: April 21st in Portland, the Poppin' Politics Jimmy Dorse show will be at the Portland Bridgetown Comedy Festival in Portland.
So I'll see you there on the 21st.
And that's about it.
Until next week, be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
I'll see you next week.
Bye.
Thank you.
Still kind of pasta.
It is at the Perkins.
Well, I let it start getting ready.
Why so soon?
You know it takes me forever to do my hair.
I got something that'll make it go faster, Teres.
What is it?
It's called Hirigami.
Huh?
It's a Hirigami.
What's that, Moron?
Well, you know, the art of folding paper is origami.
Yes, that's called a horigami.
Harigami, sure.
For beautiful folded hair fashions, they will amaze you.
Well, how does it work, Moron?
There's no pins or wires.
You just roll it up into the perfect bun.
I don't know how to do that.
No, Teres.
The 30-page glamour guide shows you how.
It's perfect for special occasions, like weddings, parties, or just a dinner and movie night with your husband.
What's this?
Oh, that's a snap-action scrunchie comes with it free.
Hey, Moron, what's the movie you guys are going to be watching?
Oh, we like to watch old movies.
Tonight I'm going to watch Back to School with the Rodney Dangerfield.
Yeah, I like that movie, too.
I think the most pivotal scene is probably when Rodney orders pizza for the Laboratory Apes.
I'm not watching that movie.
What do you want to watch?
I want to watch Henry.
Paul Trina, a cereal killer.
Oh, Teresa, I want to watch it.
I hate it.
Come on, man.
I only buy it.
I want it.
I want a bit.
I don't want it.
I gotta Have a nice night with you.
Wait a minute.
Wow, your hair looks pretty.
Thanks.
It's called the Pony Heart.
Looks nice.
Gotta go, Jim.
See Alice moment.
Okay, see you, buddy.
Okay, and that was another episode of that was a, what do they call it?
Encore classic.
Classic.
That was a pony hot.
The pony heart.
That was a classic moron.
Thanks.
Thanks for bearing with us through that.
And I wanted to, when I say Barry Withley, I mean, if you already heard it once, I like to hear him twice.
I listen to all the morons twice, at least three times sometimes.
And so that, I wanted, before we have just a minute left, I got a waitress at a restaurant the other day who was pregnant.
And I don't know how to handle that when that happens because every time she came around the corner, I wanted to jump up and help her.
Hey, sit down.
Let me get in.
How you doing?
Yeah.
You know, how do you ask a pregnant woman?
Could you go get me some more of this, please?
And hurry it up.
I need some drinks.
We're thirsty.
Well, first of all, you wait until she's done singing happy birthday and clapping.
That's just common courtesy.
It's just, and you know, what do you do?
She got to make a living, but at the same time, it feels so horrible to have a pregnant lady.
It's like, yes.
It's like, can you imagine if the mover showed up and it was a pregnant lady?
Where do you want this?
Not nowhere.
Let me get it for you.
I think I can belittle myself more than that.
I one time was talking to a guy who had AIDS and I was complaining about my knee.
Okay, that's Paul Gilmartin, ladies and gentlemen.
You could hear him on the mental illness happy hour.
And I want to thank everybody who helped write the show.
John Corbett, Ben Zelavansky, Steph Zamorano, Robert Yasamura.
And I also want to thank my guests, Ben Zelavansky, Paul Gilmartin, John Corbett, and Mike McRae, who does the voices.
Wow, what a fantastic.
What a great job he does on all the celebrity voices.
And my producer, Ali Lexa, getting it done.
Thanks for all your help.
And I want to remind everybody, April 21st in Portland, the Poppin' Politics Jimmy Door Show will be at the Portland Bridgetown Comedy Festival in Portland.
So I'll see you there on the 21st.
And that's about it.
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