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We are due to hear from Republican chairman of the House Budget Committee.
He is Paul Ryan.
He is in his seventh term in Congress.
He represents a congressional district in Wisconsin, and this is the official Republican response to the State of the Union tonight.
good evening cut spending cut spending cut spending cut spending cut spending cut spending cut spending tax cuts for millionaires Paul Ryan delivering the Republican response to the State of the Union tonight.
It's the Jimmy Door Show.
The show for people that are on tearing down our nation.
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say.
It's hard to talk on your TV algorithm.
So sit back or sit up or keep driving.
Because it's the Jimmy Door Show.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore.
Hey, everybody, and welcome to the show.
That's right.
We're taping it at Studio B in Pasadena.
That's right.
I am joined as always by Robert Yasimura, Paul Gilmartin, and Benzelovansky.
And I almost forget your name every time I say it.
Every one of you.
Everyone, I slip up a little bit.
Something about Studio B. Something about Studio B. Anyway, we're recording in Pasadena today.
So the economy is sputtering.
We're facing a permanent unemployment of 10%.
We're being taken to cleaners by Wall Street and outsourcing our jobs to China.
There's two never-ending wars draining our treasury.
I wonder what Barack Obama is going to talk about in the State of the Union.
The state of our union is strong.
Okay, so we're going to skip the State of the Union this week and go right to some fun stuff.
And the fun stuff I'm talking about is Michelle Bachman gave a speech in Iowa last weekend, and here's what she had to say about slavery and our founding fathers.
We know there was slavery that was still tolerated when the nation began.
But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.
You remember when Thomas Jefferson started the Civil War?
You remember that, right?
He was 116.
So Michelle Bachman said that, which led Chris Matthews to have to talk to a Tea Party member and bang his head up against a brick wall, if you know what I mean.
He asked him, what did Michelle Bachman mean?
What do you make of what she said?
What's she talking about?
I think what she's talking about is that we cannot continue to spend money as Rockwood.
That's not what she just said.
Okay, so he's going to get the same kind of frustration that I get when I talk to my brother, and we're going to listen to the whole interview, ladies and gentlemen.
Plus, the president of China, President Hu, was here, who?
And Russ Limbaugh had, he didn't, there wasn't a translator, and Russ Limbaugh, well, he kind of breaks it down.
I've not seen this before.
Hu Zhintao is speaking, speaking and speaking with no translator.
I found myself trying to write down what Hu Zhintao was saying in Chinese.
Phonetically, so I can repeat it to you.
Well, it looks like chicken scrolls.
And I couldn't write down anymore.
I was losing track of...
Yeah, because we all wish Barack Obama would have reacted like this instead.
You know, where's his class?
Anyway, before we get to the rest of this show.
Time for another installment of Oh My God with Paul Gilmar.
Martin.
Now, if you're not familiar with Oh My God, this is when I play a right-winger saying something crazy, and we try to get Paul Gilmartin to say, oh my God.
This week, we're going to be playing a clip from the Glenn Beck show.
This is Glenn Beck talking about the speech that Barack Obama was about to give at the State of the Union and the five pillars that he said Barack Obama was building his speech on.
You'll never guess how many pillars the president is going to focus on tonight.
Yeah.
Five.
The five pillars.
I mean, you see, I mean, you're upsetting the bunny, really.
Really.
Has anybody ever heard of the five pillars of Islam?
Okay.
Anything, Paul?
Oh, my God.
Okay.
This has been Oh my God with Paul Gilmartin.
Oh my God.
Okay, that's our new segment to kick off every show.
Unbelievable.
I know, every week I know you've got something queued up that's going to piss me off.
God!
It's the five pillars of Islam he built the State of the Union on.
Let's start with Michelle Bachman.
Have you ever read Milan Kundera?
Well, you should, because college girls get totally turned on by Milan Kundera.
Anywho, in the Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera points out that the first thing the Soviets did after invading Czechoslovakia was to change the street signs into things like Stalin Road or Lenin Drive or whatever.
What he goes on to suggest is that every tyrannical government makes the rewriting of history a priority because the facts of history undermine singular thinking.
Why do I mention this besides the fact that saying it on the radio is going to guarantee me sex for the next couple of weeks?
Well, we're in a Michelle Bachman cycle.
What I mean by that is we're always in either a Sarah Palin cycle or a Michelle Bachman cycle.
The important thing being that the United States never goes a week without a Midwest soccer mom-sounding narcissist making crazy and factually inaccurate pronouncements.
Well, last week, Representative Bachman went to Iowa.
Why, Iowa?
Well, Iowa is the place you go when you're thinking about running for president.
Let me say that again.
Michelle Bachman is going to run for president, which is particularly horrific when you hear what she said in Iowa.
Slavery that was still tolerated when the nation began.
But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.
And I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forebears who worked tirelessly.
Men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until Slavery was extinguished in the country.
Oh my God.
You know, Michelle Bachman doesn't disappoint, does she?
You know, I don't want to get too technical on you here, but everything she just said was in the reality business, what we call wrong.
Not a poor interpretation of facts, mind you.
She said things that were not true, you know, like lying or to put it another way, lying.
Okay, so far, Representative Bachman either A, doesn't know a goddamn thing about history.
I'll do this.
Don't worry.
Either A, Representative Bachman doesn't know a goddamn thing about the history of the document she claims is the foundation of all her beliefs, or B, she's a liar.
Also, it's probably both.
By the way, did you happen to catch her saying, and I think it's high time we recognize the contributions of our forebears?
Do you think she knows that we already kind of do recognize them?
You know, do you think she understands that we have two national holidays that do that?
Also, didn't we all have to take a bunch of American history classes throughout school?
Evidently, Michelle Bachman didn't, but I know I did.
Okay, now let's get down to, so you heard that, right?
You guys all just heard that.
Yes.
Yes.
And let me just go, Paul, you're clenching your hands.
She's running for president.
Yes.
It is frightening thinking about her running for class president.
How do you not know that the Civil War was nowhere near 1776?
Well, you know, Paul, it's willful.
It's 90 years apart.
It's willful.
It's not, she knows that.
Well, the thing that the reason why I'm glad that this happened is because we all have those problems, right?
We all have to go home.
Like when I go home for Christmas or what, or a family reunion, and I have to sit next to my brother, the teabagger, and I have to listen to this kind of mind-numbing illogic, right?
It's like, I don't know how they do it.
It's like they're like the older they get, the dumber they get.
It's like, it's like they're unreading books.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's like every time they win a congressional seat, they celebrate by unreading a book.
And what's even more annoying is that she sounds like she's right out of the movie Fargo, and that she's a representative.
You know what I mean?
I could tolerate that accent if something intelligent was coming out of her mouth and she wasn't in a position of power.
But it's a combination.
That's part of the willful ignorance.
Oh, just think I'm going to burf.
Oh, my.
I think it's good, though.
You know, I don't blame her for wanting to honor our forebears because if we don't, one of those bears is going to eat us.
Our forebears.
Let me just.
Now, this brings up that she said this.
So Chris Matthews saw her say this.
So he brought on Sal, I'm going to have to ask her.
Sal Russo.
Sal Russo, who is one of the leaders of the Teabag Express, which I like the name Teabag Express.
It means they get dumber quickly.
They missed the point quicker.
Yeah, I hate those local tea parties where they stop, make a lot of stops.
Is that one of the Koch brothers things?
Say say again.
Is it one of the Koch brothers enterprises?
I don't think it is.
Basically, it is.
Basically, the Teachers.
I sure do know the Koch brothers are.
Are you kidding me?
And I'm a Pepsi.
All of a sudden, a dart hits Jimmy in the neck.
So Chris Matthews brought on Sal Russo, one of the leaders of the Tea, one of the founders of the Tea Party Express, to answer for Michelle Bachman.
And it was nice to see.
We're going to walk through.
I'm going to walk through this interview with you guys because he experiences all those things we all experience when we have to talk to somebody like this who isn't making any sense.
Now, it's a little different because he's not talking directly to Michelle Bachman.
He's talking to someone who's kind of trying to cover, trying to carry her water.
Okay, so I'm going to break it down.
You know, we've had it.
Like when we go home, when I talk to my brother, you talk to your, some people talk to their uncle.
I have a lot of these conversations on Facebook.
The people, they're impenetrable to accurate information, right?
And they're missing that part in their brain that makes them embarrassed when they say something completely stupid or contradictory, which means, since they're missing that, which means it's going to keep happening over and over.
And it's like it's exponentially frustrating to the person talking to them.
And now we're going to watch Chris Matthews go through all the ramifications of a conversation we all, all the emotions that we have when we have a conversation with these types of people.
Are there seven stages to dealing with somebody who Elizabeth Kubler-Ross did do the seven stages?
Seven stages, five pillars, four bears.
Man.
Jane Zelavansky, ladies.
Ladies and gentlemen, earning his non-pay.
So Chris Matthews talking to Sal Russo.
Here we go.
What do you make of what she said?
What's she talking about?
She's trying.
I think what she's talking about is that we cannot continue to spend money as reckless.
That's not what she just said.
Okay, so that's the we all had that.
Like when you'll say something, you're ready for the teabagger to disagree with you or to get something wrong.
So you think you already know what they're going to get wrong.
You're ready for it.
And then they just blindside you with something so stupid like, oh, and I thought we're going to talk about autism and you don't believe in evolution?
What happened?
How did this happen?
Huh?
So Chris Hardball, immediately what you do when that happens, somebody says something like that, you go, ha, what?
Didn't see that coming.
And then he starts to throw as many facts at him as he can.
Right, here we go.
She said the founding fathers got rid of slavery.
Why would you say that?
Every high school kid has been to Mount Vernon and seen the slave quarters.
What are you talking about?
Jefferson had slaves.
All those guys had slaves.
I know they were great men in other regards, but they never got rid of slavery.
It's right in the Constitution.
And here's this woman waving the Constitution around, powing around with Scalia, and she doesn't even know what the Constitution had in it.
The treatment of slaves, African Americans, as three-fifths of people.
That's in our history.
You can't take it out.
Explain to me what this woman's talking about.
Okay, so that's so he just did it.
He got all those facts out.
I can't imagine a worse job in the world than protecting what that woman said on national TV.
So get ready.
Yeah.
So he's already been shocked.
He's now been just tried to regurgitate as many facts as he could to just overwhelm him with that.
And then, so here he goes.
I think she's just using that as an illustration to point out.
I think Americans are concerned today that their children and grandchildren are not going to have the same opportunities of the American dream.
Okay, so he just starts to go off on this rant.
Like it has nothing to do with the question.
He's just going to keep saying this mantra.
And that happens.
And Chris Matthews reacts like we would.
Because we've heard that's how she talks.
She goes on this tape.
No matter what you ask her, she goes on a tape.
I want to ask you about slavery, sir.
Okay, so now, so Chris Matthews is so frustrated.
You could hear it.
So now what happens in this situation is you go, okay, in your mind, you say, I'm going to break it down, and I'm going to try and reach some common ground.
Okay, so here's something that he can't deny.
All right, I'm going to get a piece of information.
We're going to agree to it, and he can't deny this.
And so you see Chris's voice goes down really softly.
He says, okay, and he's expecting him to agree with him.
This is going to be Chris's jumping off point.
Okay, but Chris is going to be sadly mistaken.
Sal, you know when slavery ended and ended with the Civil War, right?
See, there it is.
Sal, Sal, you know when the Civil War ended, right?
The earth is round, right?
Can we at least agree?
So here we go, and here's Sal's answer to the Civil War-ended slavery.
Well, some kind of slavery ended with the Civil War.
Some kind of slavery ended with just will not, no matter what you do.
The sky is blue, right?
Sal?
Well, it's a certain shade, I guess.
Some people might say it's green.
I don't know.
Did everybody possibly be talking about some kind of slavery?
Some kind of slavery.
They're like intellectual blue ballers.
You know what I mean?
You just keep thinking there's going to be a release and they don't give it to you.
You just have to keep backing up and backing up and backing up until you're like, okay.
Well, if you listen, he did it twice in both clips where you hear that.
Well, and that giggle is the victim giggle.
Like, he is the battered wife.
That's what he's doing.
Like, he is apologizing for the husband who's beating the shit out of him.
He's like, you don't understand him.
He had a hard day at work.
He was trying to throw a fist for justice, and my face just got in the way.
Okay.
So here, so let's, there's some more of this.
Let's see.
Why are you hedging?
No, I'm not hedging on it.
I'm saying that.
And I'm not stammering.
And I'm.
That would be like, that's like the definition of hedging.
What the guy did.
Yeah.
I'm not.
There's some kind of slavery.
Maybe.
I don't know.
You can see on the video, actual leaves growing out of him.
It's such a hedge.
Yes.
A hedgehog comes out of his pocket.
Oops.
He's being pruned as we speak.
That's how much of a hedge.
Literally, the definition.
And Chris Matthews is just beside himself.
And I'm laughing and feeling for him because I've been there.
Haven't we all been there?
I mean, this is really, it's fun to watch someone else have to go through it.
It is like watching a rocket take off.
Like, if you think you've seen Chris Matthews mad, you watch this clip and he goes from 11 to 21 over the course.
Like, it's if the seven stages of grieving were just all anger.
Anger.
Anger.
All right.
There's a couple more seconds of this.
When did slavery end in America?
When did it become illegal?
When did the 13th Amendment get passed?
So he thinks he now he's like, okay, I'm going to try this now.
All right.
All right.
You know what?
I'm going to just back you up on this.
I'm going to just more some more facts.
He thinks he's going to corner him.
It ain't going to happen.
For sure.
I mean, that's a different question from when we've had to deal with our racial issues.
This is the first time.
No, no, this is simple question to you, sir.
And I know you haven't heard that's what she said.
When did it be ended up?
She said slavery ended under the founding fathers.
I don't think that's what she meant.
I mean, I think she meant that if we don't get control of our government now, you're just covering.
You made a terrible decision.
You put a person out there that has no concept of American history.
I'm reminded what Steve Schmidt said about Sarah Palin.
She doesn't know anything.
This is worse.
This is claiming something that never.
Do you hear that guy laughing?
Like he knows he's he knows.
Here we go.
Here we go.
He says you put a person out there that has no concept of American history.
I'm reminded what Steve Schmidt said about Sarah Palin.
She doesn't know anything.
This is worse.
This is claiming something that never happened.
We have a problem.
Slavery and race are the San Andreas fault of American history.
She was denying it was there.
So I love his.
I'm going to put together.
I should have put it together.
If I had more time, I would have put together a montage of that guy's creepy.
He starts the whole thing off with one.
Watch.
What do you make of it?
It's almost like you get the feeling that he's sitting in that chair in the marathon, man, where Lawrence Olivier pulls the dentist tools out, and the guy suddenly realizes, oh, no, he's going to drill my team.
Can I play it again?
I hope everybody's enjoying this in Grand Rapids.
What do you want to do?
Okay, there we go.
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Hey, Jimmy, this is Sal Russo, the co-founder of Tea Party Express.
I'm just making the rounds with some calls here to try to clarify some of the things that Congresswoman Michelle Bachman said the past couple of days.
We've been getting a little bit of heat because she said that thing about how the founding fathers ended slavery.
But what she really meant to say was that our current government can't go out sped dig like we have been.
Okay, so thanks for your cooperation.
And if I find any other goofs, I'll let you know.
Thanks.
Boy, that Sal Russo is quite a guy, huh?
Yeah, he's on top of it.
I wonder if he's going to call that.
You know what?
It seems like he's going to.
He called me.
He did leave a few voicemails.
Oh, he did.
Let me see what else is if he left anything else.
Hi, Jimmy.
It's Sal Russo again from Tea Party Express.
I got an email here at someone reporting that Michelle Bachman said that the Hoover Dab was built by George Washington, and that's why it's called the Washington dab.
Of course, what she meant to say is that it's very important to interpret the Constitution strictly.
Simple slip of the tongue could have happened to anyone.
Okay, thanks for the opportunity to clear this up, Jimmy.
I appreciate it.
How could that possibly mean that?
When she said Washington built the Hoover Dam and it's called the Washington Dam, how could that mean that?
Well, she meant to just interpret the Constitution.
Oh, that's that makes sense to me.
Well, you know, he called, he left me another message.
Yeah, I'm going to see if we're.
Hey, Jimmy, Sal Russo again.
Just flipping channels and I caught another, well, let's call it an oopsie from Michelle Bachman.
Apparently, she told Anderson Cooper that Barack Obama has infiltrated planet Earth in an attempt to steal our mineral resources and bring them back to his home planet of Greblock.
I just wanted to clarify that what she meant to say is that taxes are too high.
Okay, this will probably be the last one.
I think that that should clarify all of Congresswood Bachman's statements.
Okay, thanks, Jimmy.
Bye-bye.
Boy, I really like that Sal Russo.
He's on it.
Yeah, he's a spark plug.
He really, boy, he's got his job really cut out for him, too.
So that was the last one, huh?
No, he actually, I think there's one more.
Oh.
Oh, boy, Jimmy.
Guess who?
Sal Russo again.
I just had a further clarification of my earlier clarification of Michelle Bogbutt's statement that the Faudig fathers ended slavery.
Turns out what she meant to say was that she was grateful that there's no more slavery and that now we've progressed to a point where we could just be generally afraid of black people.
Feeling like we need to owe them, which I think we would all agree is outdated.
Okay, thanks again, Jimmy.
Bye-bye.
That's Al Russo.
You have to block his number.
He's really something.
He's got a lot of calls to make.
You're probably on a list somewhere.
I wanted to play more of the soul can't take any more Rush Limbaugh.
Yeah.
A little goes a long way.
You know what I thought was funny in it when he said that he tried to write down phonetically what President Hu was saying and it looked like chicken scrawls.
First of all, I thought the term was chicken scratch.
And thirdly, or fourthly or fifthly, it would look like chicken scratch, not because of how the vowels and consonants sound to your ear, but because you have bad penmanship.
That's what you would be like, oh, what's that sound?
And then you just start running your hand all over.
Look how that Chinese president made me write.
It's terrible.
It's because his hands shake from Aztec.
Oh, is that what it is?
By the way, he didn't do that.
When he says I tried to write down, he didn't do that.
I know he didn't do that.
Okay, just so we're clear.
I think he didn't do that because he was too busy going through finding all the ways to fix health care.
But here's what.
But here's he did say this.
He said it twice.
He did like two segments on it.
And here's the second one.
It's a little shorter than the first one.
Hi, and welcome back, Rush Lindbaugh.
I have to admit I'm amused by this.
Probably very few other people are, but I am.
Normally, you know, some translator for a couple of words, but Wu Xun Tao was just going...
Nobody was translating.
Okay, well, that was pretty close, right?
I never thought I would long for Jerry Lewis wearing the buck teeth.
Oh, God.
Or Mickey Rooney.
That guy made Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's look acceptable.
He just kept going with that.
Can I say the thing I found most upsetting last night about the state of the union?
It wasn't that Barack Obama said nothing.
It wasn't that everybody's considering it a victory that Barack Obama didn't say he was going to cut Social Security.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you, Robert.
Robert, how much does Social Security add to the deficit?
Nothing.
Oh, zero.
Wait a minute.
Paul, how much does Social Security add to the deficit?
I'm going to say nothing because Robert said that and he's smart.
Okay, Ben, you sure?
I just don't have any idea.
It must be a lot, though, right?
It must be because every time I turn on the TV, somebody says it's adding to the deficit, like my main man, Willie Geist.
So we will now explain to you.
Oh, no, wait.
This is, oh, I'm sorry.
This is, you don't have to.
This is Joe Scarborough.
He's going to explain to us how to cut the deficit.
Ready?
Here's Joe Scarborough.
So we will now explain to you how you take care of America's long-term structural debt.
Look at the wrong camera.
You raise the retirement age for Social Security for people under 50.
You slow down massively the rate of growth for Medicare, and you cut the Pentagon budget big time.
Okay, so one out of three ain't bad.
He got one of the things you're supposed to cut.
Yeah.
Cutting the Pentagon budget.
Yeah, cutting the Pentagon budget.
But the other one, Social Security, doesn't add to the deficit.
I say we cut it anyway.
Why are we cutting Social Security?
It doesn't.
And you know what?
The whole reason you're trying to cut taxes is so that we have a good quality of life for people in their old age.
Well, let's gouge Social Security.
By the way, let's balance the budget on the backs of Social Security recipients.
It's not like you can take the socials.
If you eliminated Social Security tomorrow, it's gone.
It's not like that revenue would go into the taxes then.
Your FICA is a completely separate deduction.
So why do you think Barack Obama plays that game?
Why do you think he doesn't play?
What you're talking about really is stealing money from Social Security to help balance the budget.
Yes, which they have been doing forever.
Here's Willie Geist talking about that.
Where is Willie Guy?
Here it is.
Ryan did not outline many specific policies apart from the repeal of health care reform.
Didn't mention Social Security or Medicare are big drivers of the U.S. deficit.
That's a newsman.
He said Paul Ryan in his response, the Republican response, didn't mention Social Security or Medicare, big drivers of the deficit.
Social Security is not a driver of the deficit.
In fact, it's the opposite.
It's the thing that's been bailing us out.
We've been stealing from social security.
And that just keeps being said over and over.
And then one more thing that bothers me is that Barack Obama right now is going after the middle.
That's what he's saying.
He's pivoting.
He's pivoting.
He's not going to be a lefty anymore.
He's not going to try to implement Republican health care ideas anymore.
He's going to now pivot and do what?
I don't know.
So here's Howard Feynman, Howard Feynman, a great political mind.
See, because if you felt left out by Barack Obama's speech, it's because he wasn't speaking to people like us.
No, he wasn't.
Who was he speaking to?
But Obama's not aiming for those people.
The president is aiming for reasonable people in the middle independents who were worried about the long-term future of the country because they want the jobs and because they want development and innovation, but they're also worried, frankly, about the deficit and the debt.
Okay, so let me just break that down.
Let's break that down.
He said that President Barack Obama is aiming towards the independence, the reasonable independence.
Aiming for those people.
The president is aiming for reasonable people in the middle independents who were worried about the long-term future of the country.
No, see, I'm unreasonable, and I only care about the short term of our country.
It's just a made-up thing.
Who isn't reasonable and cares about the long term of our country?
He's just making it up.
And they're the people who are frankly concerned about the...
Yeah, and that nobody cared about deficits through eight years of it.
They've even put the war funding on the deficit.
They didn't put it in the regular budget.
Here's another thing.
I wonder where all this money that we're spending.
Is there a giant black hole where all this money is going?
Fellas, we're up against a break.
We're up against a break, and we'll be right back.
Okay, welcome back to the Jimmy Doer show.
We are recording in Studio B in Pasadena.
It's nice in here since Shepard Smith left.
That's right.
Oh, he's got dreamy eyes.
Anyway, so I'm here with Robert Yasamura, as always, from Team Yasamura, Paul Gilmartin from Dinner in a Movie, national television show since 1995, and from askarepublican.com.
But please remember, he's not a real Republican.
Okay.
And Ben Zelovanski from Ben and Alex.tv.
And I'm Jimmy Doerr.
And what's coming up on the rest of the show?
Well, Jim Hightower is going to stop by, bum us out in a folksy voice.
We have part of our interview with Greg Proops, ladies and gentlemen, one of my favorite guests we've ever had on the show and one of my favorite comedians.
And right now, we're going to talk a little bit about Paul Ryan, shall we?
He says, Paul Ryan gave the Republican response.
Let me just play a little bit of what he had to say.
We're at a moment where if government's growth is left unchecked and unchallenged, America's best century will be considered our past century.
Scary.
This is a future in which we will transform our social safety net into a hammock.
This is what he's saying in the middle of a depression.
I never thought I'd long for Bobby Jindal giving an aftergame report.
No kidding, right?
This is what he's saying.
He's talking about people.
So people are turning to the Republican Party.
They're hurting.
So they're looking for answers.
And he goes, hey, what do you want?
This freaking hammock?
You want a social safety net?
It's like, no, we're, you know, because no fault of our own, you guys created a serial bubble after serial bubble.
And, you know, still giving 0% interest money to the banks who are kicking us out of our house.
It's, and it's contradictory what he's saying.
He's saying we're going broke, but we're going to create this thing that is going to take care of everybody and just lull them into complacency.
With what money?
Yes.
With what money?
Yeah.
If we can get textbooks that only speak about America in good terms, America will feel better about itself and that will generate revenue.
I think that's what they hope.
I think that's.
If we can whitewash slavery and having a hand in coups in Iran in 1953 and Chile in 1973.
We can get rid of all of that.
And we're on the right footing.
And let me just say this.
If I could just ask everybody to say Chile like Paul does, we'll all be okay.
I like saying it Chile.
Chile.
That's nice.
Did I mispronounce it?
No, I think that's probably the property.
We say Chile because, you know, we're Americans and it's.
I feel, Paul, if I pronounce foreign words correctly, I'm being unloyal to my own country.
I don't know why that is.
Are we still having the after-show meal down at Chile's?
Oh, yes, we are going.
Paul, by the way, people who don't know, Paul Ryan.
He's been a rep from Wisconsin since 1999.
He's the chairman of the budget committee.
He is considered the ninth most influential Republican in the party.
And all of his ideas to balance the budget are talking about cutting Social Security, cutting Medicare, tightening up, you know, and by the way, his budget doesn't even balance the budget either.
Right.
Well, you know, we built this country on the backs of the poor, and I think it's time we shifted that burden to the frail.
Very good.
But Barack Obama said that we should cut the corporate.
So Barack Obama, more part of him becoming into the center is that he wants to lower corporate taxes, which we already have pretty low corporate taxes in the industrialized.
I think we're the lowest, in fact.
And people did a study that found out that most corporations don't even pay taxes.
In fact, General Electric actually got some kind of a tax credit last year.
General Electric didn't pay taxes, but I did.
Okay, I can't.
Well, also, he started out the speech talking about kind of how rosy everything is and how corporate profits are up.
And then later, about a half an hour later, the speech is a little bit different.
Corporate profits are up.
We better cut corporate taxes.
Oh my God, Ben.
That's right.
He's talking about corporate profits are up.
The Wall Street is back.
We're coming back, right?
And he's like, we've got to cut corporate taxes.
Well, I thought they're sitting.
Everyone knows that corporations had the biggest corporate profits ever at the last quarter of last year.
They're sitting on $2 trillion of capital that they're not spending.
We need to cut their taxes.
They've got the money.
They're not getting record profits with those horrible oppressive taxes.
Where did Barack Obama get this idea to cut corporate taxes?
I don't know.
I think, see, because there was an election and Barack Obama said something, and his opponent sent something, and we chose Barack Obama.
But where did he get the idea to cut court to taxes?
Let's see.
Right now, the United States of American business pays the second highest business taxes in the world, 35%.
Ireland pays 11%.
Obviously, if you go to the country where it's 11% tax versus 35%, you're going to be able to create jobs, increase your business, make more investment.
And Ireland is probably in one of the worst financial straits.
Ireland is emerging as the latest troublespot in Europe, still simmering debt crisis.
After a housing boom, even larger than that of the United States, Ireland's loan-happy banks lie wrecked, and its public finances are bathed in red.
Investors now worry that the nation once hailed as the Celtic tiger might default on its debt and turn in to the International Monetary Fund for help.
Oh, but they have the lowest corporate taxes.
And I thought that's all you have to do.
Should have been lower.
I mean, how are you going to make a reduced...
All you do is cut corporate taxes and it fixes everything.
And then people can fill their bellies with civic pride.
All right, now let's take a break.
Hi, everybody.
We're here.
We're lucky enough to have one of my favorite comedians.
And of course, you might know him from his work on Whose Light Is It Anyway?
From the UK and the United States version.
Yes.
Right?
And you've seen it.
Look at me.
I know.
Look at you.
I've known him as a hilarious comedian.
You might also know him from his work on Paul Provenza's The Green Room.
I don't know if it's work.
He was a guest on the show, right?
He hasn't shown yet, so you will know me from that.
Oh, I will know you from that.
And he stars as Max Madigan on the Nickelodeon sitcom Trade Jackson VP.
But the thing that I really am enamored with is your new podcast called The Smartest Man in the World available on iTunes, the Greg Proups podcast.
Greg Proups is our guest.
How are you, buddy?
I'm good, Jimmy.
How are you?
Hello, Ben.
Hey, hey, Greg.
I know you from your future appearance on the Green Roof Puppet.
Isn't it great to be that precious and know me from something that's to come?
It feels good.
It's very Dickinsian.
I feel like we're living in the future.
So, Greg, what do you think about what things have been going on?
Now, the president just gave a State of the Union.
He said the State of the Union is strong.
Yeah, apparently living in a different union, a parallel one to ours, one where platitudes and clichés substitute yet again for any kind of substantive advice.
If he wanted to make me happy, he would have gone, I'm firing everyone in the Treasury Department, and I'm having the Attorney General look into AIG and Sharon Lehman, and we're going to fix this.
And what we're going to do is give all the money back to you like ancient Rome.
We're going to dole it out to the public.
But don't you think would he take a political hit for something like that?
I mean, to be sure.
To be sure.
He couldn't do it.
I'm just saying, I didn't dig.
I mean, I dug that he talked about education and whatnot, but the kitten's already out of the kittenhouse, if you know what I'm saying.
We're not doing this with no money, and therefore we're not doing this.
No.
There's a lot of big ideas, and then a lot of talk about how we're not going to spend any spending is frozen.
Much like his campaign, when he got into the reality of what's what in there, you know, the two wars still being prosecuted.
Well, so we're talking about it seemed a seemingly contradiction in the president's speech when he was trying to say, we're going to invest in our future, but at the same time, I'm going to freeze discretionary spending, which seems to be contradictory.
And, you know, did you find it?
I found it funny that he had to kind of beg people to respect teachers again.
Hey, you know, they're the most important.
They do the most important jobs, although we're not going to ever pay them that way.
And my education program is to break their unions and demonize them.
And the reason why I have to beg you guys to respect them is because we've been scapegoating them for the last two years.
Yeah.
Well, that's exactly what he said.
And for those exact reasons, it reminded me a little bit of I liked teachers so much I married one when Debbie said that.
He did everything to destroy education in this country and dumbed down.
And now we're at the level of political discourse at the W level.
It has taken 10 years, and now we have Tea Partyers and Michelle Bachmans or whoever you want to put out there that are misinformed and kind of kooky and truthiness, as you say.
But Obama is deeply dealing in truthiness.
To not be a complete cynic, to be a little bit Pollyanna, the country needed a little pep talk, one, and I think he delivered that in some measure.
I think his ratings probably went up after it because he didn't harsher Mel and go, like, here's the deal.
There's not going to be any jobs for the next year.
The mortgage roots are still.
The banks are still kleptos.
This is this.
This is this.
Congress is going to defy me at every bloody turn.
I'm going to capitulate more than I'm going to swing my big one.
And all the things we know are going to happen.
But saying education is always important, whether it does anything about it, I suppose, is a depressing part.
You used the word capitulate.
So now a lot of people would say that's compromise.
Would you call what the president is doing capitulating, moving to the right?
They say triangulating using the Bill Clinton strategy of adopting Republican ideas.
Well, Clinton, for me, I always thought he was a very smart president.
He was disappointing in many regards, and he also dismantled welfare, which I always thought was the Republican dream.
And I thought the genius of Clinton's political life is that he took their agenda without telling me he was taking their agenda after taking a very big hit from them and then proceeded to enact that agenda.
So he did everything Reagan talked about.
He balanced the budget.
He cut welfare to nothing.
I mean, like, he really did a lot of things that the 80s were all about for Republicans.
So when the rug got pulled out and the hatred got poured on and they stuffed Bush at us because we've had enough of a prosperity and everything.
Well, like Obama doesn't seem to quite have picked up on the fact that you can take, like Clinton did, like, mostly Republican ideas, put them into practice, and you're still not going to make them happy.
They still went after him like after Clinton viciously.
And everyone made money during Clinton.
That was the thing that always baffled me about the backlash.
Like, I could see if it was about race or any other thing, but it was a little about race with Clinton.
That's where all that deregulation started.
It's mostly about politics.
Precisely.
And the same cats are coming back into the Treasury Department that enacted all this.
You know what, Greg?
You're right.
I'm sure someone has made that point to me before, but it's never really hit me quite as hard as when you just said that he was Reagan's dream come true.
He did.
He balanced the budget, right?
But he cut welfare.
But he also deregulated Wall Street.
I mean, Reagan deregulated.
He opened up the borders for trade and everything.
Right.
Reagan deregulated the savings of the loan, and then that went belly up within his administration.
With a Bush.
And then Clinton deregulated Wall Street, not just savings and loans, but the big banks.
And they went within a decade, they went belly up under a bush.
And I never really looked at it like that.
So he really was.
So do you see any hope for a progressive agenda ever taking hold in this country?
Well, I don't know.
I think that's up to us.
Way more.
It's kind of like in show business.
You think, is my agent ever going to do anything for me?
Well, the answer is no, until the phone call comes in.
And we're in the same position.
We are the client of our government, and therefore we're the boss of our government, but only in that way that how much can you do?
So I think KPFK being enormously effective in that regard, any kind of community activity is bigger than anything a government can do.
And anything we can do to make lives better is, I think, how it's going to have to go.
I think the tide of progress will not be disappointing.
There will be gay marriage.
There'll be legal marijuana.
There'll be abortion.
There'll be all those things because progress will kill off the generation that hates all that stuff.
So we're making social progress.
I think so.
But I think a black president.
Yes.
Right.
So it's like, hey, maybe we can get, can a black guy be a puppet of Wall Street and corporations in the military-industrial context?
Yes, he can.
He's come a long way.
Look at the women that have been the famous women dictators of the world.
I'm throwing aside the Kim Campbells and the woman who's prime minister of New Zealand.
I forget her name.
There's been a lot of nice lady PMs, but we always think of Thatcher and Gandhi and stuff like that.
And if you want to talk about, if the measure of everything is, do you act like a venal man, then they certainly answer to that.
So I don't think it's any different when Obama got in there.
I think he was a machine politician from the get-go, in my opinion.
But what we all would have liked as progressives is for him to swing it around a little bit, especially when he had the advantage when he first came in and stomp on some people because we've been used to being stomped on.
And it was sort of the natural reactionary reaction of all of us to go, if you would only kick a few butts up there and make your way go through.
And everybody knows it's hard to do because there's already a machine there, but you can do it if you take certain routes.
Bush, of course, promised to stomp on everything and did nothing.
And was elected by a sliver as opposed to Obama.
Why?
It's practically a modern landslide.
Yeah.
No.
Obama's is the biggest since what Clinton beat Dole, right?
Like Biggie.
Yeah, he actually had a mandate.
Absolutely.
He won by 1%.
60-something percent of the voters went, please.
Well, that would be the big, you know, to me that's the biggest, When a Democrat wins an election, it's time for healing and bringing people together.
When a Republican wins, they have a mandate.
Yes.
And that's, I mean, I'll never forget George Bush after he won the 2004 election and beat Kerry.
He said, I've got some political capital, and I'm going to spend it by trying to privatize Social Security.
And, you know, you would never hear Barack Obama saying, I have some political capital.
I'm going to spend it on this thing that a lot of people don't want.
Well, Bush didn't privatize it, and he didn't stop abortion, and he didn't do any immigration, substantive laws.
He basically, oh, he didn't make Christianity the state relief.
You know what I mean?
He promised all these things.
Core people.
And what he did do, of course, was drive the country into the ditch with the wars.
I mean, I think that's his big accomplishment.
And then when Obama got on him for AIDS, it was like, George Bush had one thing in the plus column, and that was that he spent mad money on AIDS research and development all over the world.
Like, he's the one guy who did do that, which I, again, the progressive agenda.
That slipped through during someone we would consider the most vile enemy of progressiveness.
But he always looked for him, there must be some angle.
Like, there must be some kind of, there must be something buried in there that's going to be a giveaway to pharmaceutical companies or something.
I can't quite accept it as a fully full altruism, but sometimes rich people accidentally do good.
I'll take it.
Yes, I'll take it.
So, Greg, now you grew up in, are you from Phoenix originally?
No, I'm from San Carlos, California.
I was born in Phoenix.
I'm from the Bay Area, so I've been poisoned ever since.
So, you have a real, that's where, I mean, you get your progressive sensibility.
Yeah.
Right?
Where do you think the team comes from your geography, or do you think it comes from your parenting?
No, my parents were all over the map.
I think my mom is a liberal like me.
She loved Clinton, and you know, and she lives in Texas, where all of her brothers and sisters are, you know, fairly the other way.
Really?
My dad, I think, was way more conservative, but I never really talked to him about it.
And they were both from the World War II generation.
So when you asked them who they voted for, they said, that's my business.
Really?
Nothing is anybody's personal business anymore.
I always think the same thing about religion.
Like when these candidates get grilled about religion, why can't anyone just say, that's none of your business?
Like, you know, that's how I feel.
Yeah.
Because the people who are religious will go, oh, what's he trying to hide?
Right, because that is a major part of Christianity, for example, is you got to make a lot of noise about it.
To really be out there.
You got to wear it on your sleeve, like Jesus said.
Right, exactly.
Yes.
People who pray in public are the most holistic.
I think that's what it was.
I think that's what Jesus said.
That's one of the bummers about religion, isn't it?
That no one takes it personally anymore.
And personally, I agree with you by keeping it to themselves.
Keep it inside, keep it inside.
Well, you know, this revolution that's going on in Egypt or whatever we're calling it, the tumult.
You know, that a Coptic church in Alexandria got bombed on the beginning of the year.
No, I didn't.
And the cops were an ancient Christian cult, right?
Purportedly, because Egypt is always part of the mix, right?
Like Turkey, the whole Eastern Mediterranean is really, even though it's all Muslim now and has been for 800 years, that deeply Christian, right?
The Byzantine Empire and all the different Orthodox churches from there, Armenian and Greek.
The Egyptian Coptic one has somewhere near like 20 million people, like 8 million in Egypt.
10% of the population is Christian in Egypt, which nobody knows because they're from this weird Christian cult.
Right.
In the ancient sense of what?
Different splinter groups of Christianity.
A sect.
They have their own ponif, but they don't call him a ponif.
And they have their own hierarchy went on.
And they've agreed to agree with the Armenian church and the Greek church a little bit.
But we're talking about a church that started in the 400s.
So what they say goes, right?
Like the idea that someone's going to come in later and lay some other doctrine on them is like, I don't think so, right?
And St. Mark, supposedly, himself started the church.
Alexandria was already a well-established city by the time of Jesus.
It started about 300 years before by Alexander, right?
And Cleopatra lived there.
This all precedes Christianity.
Julius Caesar, you know, the question for me is, and this revolution going on there, is it a revolution for everybody, or is it a revolution for Islamic fundamentalists?
Or I'm not clear on it.
I don't know enough about it to talk about it intelligently.
In Iran, we saw what happened.
In Iraq, after a war, after we made the war there, you saw what happened to Christianity and splinter groups.
They get it in the booty, right?
They're the first ones that we've been waiting to get at.
There's 8 million Egyptians who are Christian in a country with 80 million people.
And you think that would be bad if they threw over Mubarak, which they kind of need to do because he's horrible.
And then went, no, it's not for you.
It's for us now.
And one of the first things we're going to do is settle this whole problem where I'm hoping that doesn't happen.
Or that anti-Semitism isn't the other main reason.
It didn't seem to be in Tunisia, but as I've been reading a little bit, Tunisia is a much more middle-class country and more educated.
Egypt keeps everybody below the poverty line because that's been Mubarak's friends and family.
I mean, name a country in the Middle East.
This is always my defense of Israel.
I know people are going to freak out and call in and like, we hate you for this, but my defense, or hate me, my defense of Israel was always they're at least a democracy in the nominal sense of the term.
They have an elected government.
They do throw out their governments when they get tired of them and they change them.
Now, maybe you're not happy with how they treat everybody around them, but Saudi Arabia and Syria and Iran and Egypt are not flourishing democracies that are trying to promote people's rights.
So understand that about it.
And if they love the Palestinians so much, then why don't they help them more is another question that I'm always too.
To be sure, Israel can be a little oppressive, but if you let Saudi take over the Middle East, you're going to see some wholesale prisoning and atrocities.
Well, I love to look the other way on Saudi Arabia.
That's like the national pastime.
Let's just pretend that everything, nothing's going on over the years.
Well, President Bush, wasn't he not over there holding hands every couple of months with him, walking around in a grove's garden, making eyes at him?
The king just left two days ago, if you read that item.
King Abdullah was getting a backup.
Oh, yes.
It was in the Waldorf Astoria, and he was holding up on a couple.
He rented out a few floors.
Seven or eight private jets, they said.
And they actually hired a private crew of extra TSA people to handle running these guys through.
Ah, look, isn't it?
Oh, no, he used to kiss and hold and hold hands with Abdullah all the time.
And the predecessor.
Yeah.
King Fahd.
When Fahd died, I used to have a joke.
I said, I just rub my engine extra hard for like a minute for king, like spilling 40 dogs for homies.
So I'm going to put a scorn of it.
Now, Pete, you know, when stuff goes belly up in other countries, you know, like we've all learned that there's been a rigged game at the top of our economy, and the people who rigged the game got to take all of our money.
And when their bets went belly up, the governments took our money, taxpayer, and gave it to them.
Now, when they realized this happened in Greece and London, people started to take to the streets and riot.
Why do you think that doesn't happen in America?
I really wish I knew, Jim.
I think things are still good enough.
Is that a terrible answer?
Is that the shallow answer?
Do you think it has to do with, I always think it has to do with the media, you know, when because we don't realize that people think that they're, well, I'm informed.
Oh, really?
Where do you get your news from?
The corporation.
Oh, yeah.
Almost everybody gets their news and information from the corporation.
And then they'll think, I had a guy one time tell me, he was vice president of a record company.
I don't even know if they're still called record companies.
And he told me, he goes, I'm very informed, Jimmy.
I listen to Rush Limbaugh and Dennis Miller's show every day.
So people think they're informed.
Even the people who think they're informed in America aren't.
Yeah, that's a deep problem.
Which is why Barack Obama has to, quote unquote, pivot towards the center, even though he's been on the record.
Right.
And tell people that actually make an appeal to young people in college and say, please become a teacher.
Your country needs you, which he said the other night.
Reminded me of the depression.
You know what I mean?
Really?
So instead of, hey, hey, you know what?
We're going to make it a viable career for you.
You don't have to choose between being an economically successful or a teacher.
Right.
And we're not going to violate the unions, and we're not going to blame professors for having points of view and all the things they're supposed to have because that's what you're supposed to do in your professor.
Yeah, but we're just going to give lip service.
We're just going to give lip service to teachers and then cut the education budget.
We're going to evaluate you with standardized tests.
I've said it that don't work for various groups for various reasons and blah, blah, blah.
And I mean, Barack Obama, he is a part of the problem when it comes to education.
He's got this race to the top, which is just no chow left behind on steroids.
Anybody who's taken a look at it knows that's what it is, which is about holding teachers accountable, as if that's the problem.
You know what?
They go, well, I always tell people, well, if you think teacher unions are bad and that's what's screwing up education, how come the best schools in America have teacher unions and the worst schools in America also have teacher unions?
How come they only are screwing up the worst school?
If you go to thriving communities, Beverly Hills High has a great high school.
You go to a community that's struggling, they're going to have struggling schools.
Because it's the real massive chunk of this responsibility is on parents.
I agree.
No one is ever going to get elected by telling you that you're responsible for your kids.
They abrogate themselves.
Sadly, I think our generation, if I can include you in my age group, Jimmy, is you 34 like me?
Oh, dude, 31.
Oh.
And I look fabulous.
Full head of hair.
I think people in their 40s and 50s who had kids 20 years ago have a little bit to answer for.
I mean, I think young people are groovy because I think that things like homophobia and other issues with them are irrelevant.
And that's what I mean about progress because in 20 years' time, when they've got money, it's like, well, who cares?
There'll be no more screaming about gay marriage on TV, only by a little group then.
Right.
Or immigration, you know, because they'll go, well, good, fine.
They just simply don't have the same mindset we do.
Or the, you know, as a parent, we don't have our parents' mindset of what's right and what's wrong.
That's a fluid thing.
But no one will ever win by saying you should teach kids.
But when you think about how people are so selfish and don't teach their children anything and do blame schools and go, well, I don't, how come they don't know how to spell?
Well, like, because you need to spend time to.
Now, granted, if you're poor, raising children is just a monstrous task.
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine doing it with all the resources in the world.
No.
Much less crappy schools and the other thing is that they can't really evaluate how well kids are learning in any meaningful way, and they can't evaluate how well teachers teach in any meaningful way.
Like any kid or parent that's dealt with a teacher across a whole year will be able to tell you whether they're a good teacher or a bad teacher.
What they want to do is they want to judge the teacher based on how kids do on standardized tests.
And then they want to basically have these, you know, that same death panels for the teachers.
And the schools that have the lowest performance on test scores are the ones where we have mostly transient kids.
So you don't know what they're doing.
Without English as the first language.
And English is their second language.
And other countries that work, when they go, oh, look how Finland beats us or China beats us.
Well, they're not competing in the same game.
They don't have to teach kids where Chinese is their second language.
You know what I mean?
They don't have a transient population.
So it's not the same kind of thing.
And they don't have class sizes like we have here in America.
40 kids in the class.
Like when you go to, if you go, people, I like to point to Finland, which is always in the top five.
And Finland, when they decided 20 years ago to get a, they didn't, they had no industry, they had nothing.
They decided and said, we're going to really invest in our education.
They put three teachers in every classroom.
And they strengthened the teachers' unions.
And they said, if you want to be a teacher, you have to get a master's degree.
So now it's a really respected, and they have the high school.
Overeducated people teaching.
And their economy is booming.
Yes.
Can you imagine that?
Yes.
So I just, you know, I've said it on the show before that it's easy to scapegoat teachers.
And Barack Obama says he's picked up the Republican mantra of we have to tie teachers' pay to their performance, even though nobody else in this society's pay is tied to their performance.
Particularly executives of large corporations.
Yeah, particularly executives of large corporations.
And particularly, how about Barack Obama?
You know, hey, I say if unemployment's still at 10%, come February, he doesn't get a secret service after 5 o'clock.
I bet you he gets that unemployment down by March.
It's like, hey, did everybody see the president?
Yeah, he's busy.
He's really working.
He's really trying right now.
Greg, so Greg, let's talk more about your comedy and your chat show, your podcasts.
How did that get started?
And where do you, you tape it at the Bar Lubich?
You do a live show.
Tell me all about it.
I've got one on February 2nd at the Barlubich, and then we have one at the Comedy Central Space, I think on the 16th.
The Bar Lubich is a neat space over on Santa Monica Boulevard because they have a back room, and it's super Baroque inside.
It's got like this nudes on the walls and chandeliers and wooden tables.
So I really love the atmosphere.
Rubenesque Rudes.
Yeah, it seems like a speakeasy in San Francisco, which is what I'm all about.
Now, is there a password that people will need to have?
If you wish.
Proofcast.
So you can drink, which is the good part.
And you were asking me, I don't know if you asked me before we went on about why did I want to do it live?
And I did it alone in a room.
The guys who produce Jimmy Doris.
Jimmy Pardos.
How many Jimmies are there?
Jimmy Pardo's and Doug Benson's Matt and Ryan from a special thing records.
And they do mine.
And they asked me to do it.
And they said, no, it should just be you rattling on, you know.
And a comedian friend of mine said to me, it's hard sometimes.
You don't know how you come off or you think you do because you've been doing it a long time.
He said, you need to do a show called The Smartest Man in the World where you brook no argument, right?
And you just know everything because that's how you see him.
And I was like, all right, I'll do that.
So I've took another comedian's advice, and that's what I'm doing.
Live, I think, because I want to hear however meager the laughter and the clinking and the clanking.
I feel like when I did it alone in my room, it was, if you'll pardon the expression, a bit self-masturbatory or whatever.
It was a little.
Without a crowd there, you felt a little.
I did a show on Audible for years before there was such a thing as podcasts.
Then people just downloaded them to their MP3s or whatever, but it cost money those days.
From 2000 to 2005, I did one like every time.
You did like your own podcast?
You can go on iTunes and find those.
They're all about Bush and Cheney and everything.
Yeah, the Iraq War.
Just me railing about it every week for years.
Well, I think that was before anybody had even an iPhone.
The difference is now people can listen to them on a dazzling variety of demand.
Everybody's way more chilly than I'm not.
When did iPods get invented?
So if I'd kept going after 2005, I would have been at the Vanguard of podcasting instead of coming in last year.
But that one was alone in my room.
And it was me ranting and raving with newspapers.
Or I'd go to a studio sometimes just to get out of my room and record it in a studio in Hollywood and, you know, smoke a joint and read the paper and get mad.
This one's a lot less like that.
This one's a little more anecdotal.
And I do politics, but not the whole thing.
All right.
Well, Greg, where can people find you online?
GregProofs.com.
I'm on Facebook.
I'm on Twitter.
Greg Proops.
And of course, the smartest man in the world's on iTunes.
Okay.
Greg, thanks for stopping in and being our guest.
It's a pleasure, as always.
Thanks so much, Jimmy.
Okay, bye-bye.
Okay, that's our show for today.
I want to thank everybody who helped make the show possible.
I want to thank our guest, Greg Proops.
I want to thank Ben Zelovansky, Paul Gilmartin, Robert Yasimura, Stan Stankos, my producer, Ali Lexa, Steph Zamorano.
And I want to thank you mostly for listening.
How about that?
And Jimmy Door Comedy is coming up with a new website.
Oh, it's all exciting.
It's all going to happen very soon.
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