Christopher Sparks joins James Delingpole to unveil his independent "Keys of the Kingdom Bible," a 28-year project rejecting the King James Version as politically corrupted by Babylonian myths. Sparks argues that doctrines like the immortal soul, hell, and Satan are pagan inventions, proposing instead that Genesis's serpent is Adam himself and sin stems solely from the human heart. While Delingpole challenges Sparks' dismissal of supernatural entities and textual reliability, Sparks maintains his translation restores original meaning obscured by centuries of institutional error, concluding with an exchange of contact details for his online resources. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to the Delling Pod, Christopher Sparks.
I am actually really, I'm so looking forward to this conversation.
It was prompted by this really, I've known about you for a while, and I hope to really be able to get a handle on you.
I sort of asked around, you know, like, do you know about Christopher Sparks and his.
Keys Of The Kingdom Bible?
Because I, I want you, I wanted a an independent take, as it were, because I mean you could be a completely mad bloke who's just I come up with a rubbish translation of the Bible and making all sorts of claims, or you could be a total genius who's completely transformed our understanding of of what the bible really meant and stuff.
And do you know, do you find this problem with it when you're, when you're trying to sell yourself and your and your and your bible, trying to convince people that you're not kind of a nutcase?
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Well, to some people, yes, but you know, I give the evidence.
There's a New Testament translation, if you can call it that, that one of my students sent me about 20 years ago, and it says in the preface, God told me to do this.
And the standard of the preface was about A level students, you know, it wasn't sort of a scholarly written piece of work at all, and the translation was awful, and he said God told him to do it.
Where's the evidence?
Well, let's start at the beginning, shall we?
Tell me about yourself.
All right, where do I begin?
I was born in Birmingham in the early 50s, 1951, and I've lived down here in the south of England most of the time since, apart from sometime in Wales and Oxford.
And my father was a literary man and a grammarian, and he was always quoting Shakespeare and Dr. Johnson and other pieces of poetry.
He taught drama and English.
So I grew up with hearing all this, and of course, when you're young, you think, yeah, yeah, Dad.
But when you get a bit older, you start thinking, hold on, dad was a polymath and all these things that he knew were remarkable.
And I just naturally started reading and writing poetry without anybody telling me to do it.
It just happened.
I just did it.
And so my love of literature grew from there.
And then my dad and I were running a bookshop.
And so I was.
Managing that, and of course, I could get reduced price books.
I was getting mainly reading art books because art historians write well, and I was interested, of course, in the artworks.
And so, I was building up a collection of books and then poetry.
And then one day, I was in a wine bar listening to a folk band.
In the interval, I got talking to the leader of this folk band, and he was in quote marks a born again.
Bible believing Christian.
But he was interested in art and poetry and music and philosophy and all the things I'd been reading.
And so he asked me to join his band, which I did.
And so I got very friendly with this fellow.
And one day I went to his church, which I lived just a few yards from.
And I heard the Bible read and hymns sung and prayers read.
I'd never heard anything like this as a small evangelical church.
And I walked out of there a changed man.
Can I just pause you there?
What were you playing in this folk band?
What was it?
Oh, harmonica and reading poetry.
Can I say, I'm not being rude, but I'm not sure I would have wanted to come and see you.
Wouldn't it have been quite annoying having somebody playing harmonica and reading poetry when you want, kind of, you know, you want, go day, day, go day, day, or, you know, you want a bit of kind of.
Well, I wasn't really in poetry and playing the harmonica at the same time.
Right.
Separate things.
I love the harmonica.
It's a great instrument.
I always say you can take it anywhere.
I've usually got a harmonica on me.
I walk the hills and play the songs I love.
But now, since then, those days, I've taken up the guitar and play guitar and harmonica.
So it's all part of my love.
Did you have success in this folk band or was it purely a hobby?
We weren't making money.
We weren't doing it for that because this fellow was a Christian and he was doing it to talk about God and Christ through his songs.
So you were doing Christian folk?
Well, yes.
And some of this fellow's own compositions, which were beautiful.
And he was so gifted.
Really, really gifted.
I say he was.
He died a few years ago.
Oh, he is brilliant.
He really was brilliant.
So I interrupted you.
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So you then had this epiphany at this evangelical church, and that inspired you to.
Well, as I said, I was getting cheap books, reduced books from the shop I was managing with my dad.
And first thing I did was get myself a cheap Bible.
You know, I just walked out of that church.
I walked into that church not wanting to serve God because I didn't even know what it meant.
I thought it meant being a goody goody and staying at home reading books.
Ironically, that's what I was doing anyway.
But so I couldn't wait to, when I walked out of that church, I couldn't wait to serve God and get a Bible and find out what it's all about.
And that's what it was about for me from the very beginning, the Word of God.
And so I got an NIV.
New international version, and I devoured it and I took it everywhere.
You know, south of France, I worked for a while and I just took this thing everywhere and it fell to bits.
And then I started looking at some other versions.
Then, early 1990s, I started discovering other things that there was a war or a quarrel over the New Testament manuscripts.
And then I started finding out more and more things.
And then I came across the works of Dr. E.W. Bullinger.
Have you come across him?
No.
Tell me.
Well, he edited the Companion Bible published about 1913, 14, and on the eve of the First World War.
It's the King James Bible with margin notes, thousands and thousands of them.
And so it was the beginning of January 1995 that I discovered Bullinger.
So he was raising translation issues and interpretation issues, which I'd never come across in churches.
You have to get out of churches to find the truth.
You've Get out into the wilderness, yah of the wilderness.
And so, this companion Bible, and I was reading all these margin notes sitting in my front garden that summer, hot summer, in my cricket cap and reading these thousands and thousands of margin notes, and then started typing up on my PC hard drive passages which have got to be adjusted.
So, there was another book by Bullinger, How to Enjoy the Bible.
That sounds a sort of mainstream paperback at the back of the church, but it's not.
It's a scholarly book with Hebrew and Greek words.
And so I was devouring these two books and making all these notes.
Then in the August of 1997, I was in Berwick-on-Tweed in a private library.
I was staying as a guest for a week on holiday, and I heard two old boys up at the books while I was sitting at a desk in this library reading.
They were talking about immortality of the soul.
So this piqued my interest, and I had to go and interrupt them, ask them what they were talking about.
And they said, immortality of the soul.
I said, why?
And one of them is rather like my granddad, a rather tall, austere man with his hands behind his back, rather military.
Well, it's not right, is it?
And I said, why not?
And he said, Ezekiel 18, verse 4, the soul that sinneth it shall die.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Of course, in the churches, this immortal soul, you take it for granted that when you die, you go off somewhere.
Your soul or your spirit.
They never quite decide which it's soul or spirit, but there was Ezekiel saying the soul who sins will die.
Ezekiel 18 4.
And this man had, Roland Wicks, had also published a booklet about this called The Path to Immortality.
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It's in the bibliography at the back of my translation.
So he gave me a copy, and well, I devoured this.
And on the train coming home, From Berwick to Hampshire.
And I was thinking, well, if the immortality of the soul is a fake teaching, which this man plainly illustrated to me is a fake teaching, well, then hell can't be true either.
So I started looking into that.
Well, a week or two later, I was sitting by a local lake in the sunshine and thinking about all these things and thinking about William Tyndale.
And I decided that moment, we've got to have a proper translation.
That's how it began, August 97.
Did you have the Greek and the Hebrew at that time?
No, no.
That's the interesting thing, James.
As soon as I began this, all the right people started clustering around me.
Somebody who had remarkable technological skills, unlike myself.
And so he set a program that would.
Superscript all the passages, the numbers of the passages of the Bible.
And so he did all that for me.
And then I was on holiday in, where was it, Llandudno, north of Wales, excuse me, in a bed and breakfast called Beth Eden, so the House of Eden.
And I met there a Hebrew and Greek scholar who wrote out for me a list of all the books that I'd need.
And he got 100% for his Hebrew exam in university.
96 for the Greek, or it might be the other way around, and so remarkable man to meet.
And also, with all that, he was a Christian.
So, we had a lot of things completely by chance you met this guy.
Well, the previous holiday in Berwick on Tweed, I'd been told about him, that he would be in Llandudno at this bed and breakfast.
So, with these people I was on holiday with, one of them knew this fellow and said he'd be in Llandudno.
So, it was the same group of people.
So, I went knowing he'd be there, but not knowing quite what a remarkable linguist he would be and what a help we'd be to each other.
And so he didn't understand the war about the New Testament manuscripts, which I did.
And he is now a kind of world class expert in this.
He's taken it to another level.
And his work has been an immense help for me in that field as well.
I do quite like stories about miracles, Christopher.
And I have to say, I'm lightly disappointed.
I was hoping you were going to say, and I came down to breakfast and I was thinking, who is going to help me in this task I have given myself?
Where am I going to get the Greek and the Hebrew?
And then Across the, I asked this man to pass me the salt, and he said, By the way, anyway, no, I'm teasing that.
It wasn't far off that.
And the books that he wrote out for me, I handwritten this list, I got every single one of them, and he was right.
I used them all.
Did you teach yourself Greek?
Well, he taught me.
He taught you.
That's brilliant.
Yeah.
And I imagine it was quite a long project.
I mean, how would it take to translate the Bible?
Well, I began in, I would say, I began in September 97.
I haven't got the exact date from my notebooks.
But, you know, September 97, that's 28 years and a bit ago.
And so it's been, sorry, 97, not 98, September 97.
That's 28 years and six months.
And I've been doing it intensely every day.
I mean, I eventually gave up all paid work and been living on faith and had to do it.
And I knew that it was obvious God wants his word translated properly.
So just from that, that obvious statement, I knew I was doing the right thing.
And I could see the other Bibles where there were repeated errors.
Right.
And living on faith, I mean, I know it does say in the scriptures, you know, ask and you shall receive.
And, um, There's wonderful lines in Matthew, Matthew 6, about the, you know, don't worry about the stuff, God will take care of it.
I forget the exact quote, but did that work for you?
Well, yes, it's about, you know, setting your mind on the kingdom of the heavens and all these things will be added to you.
Is that what you're thinking of?
Well, yeah, yeah.
It's the bit of Matthew when he talks about consider the lilies and all that, and he talks about.
You know, don't think about clothes because God will provide them and don't worry about food because God will provide them.
But, I mean, did that happen to you?
Did you, where did you get that?
Very much so.
Yes.
That's been, the provision has been utterly remarkable.
I could not have done this without the support of other people.
Yeah, it has been truly remarkable, miraculous.
People were giving you, sorry, I'm just, well, I'm not just food, the detailed food, but who paid for your bills and stuff?
Well, I have, I'm 75, so I have a state pension, but I get royalties from the books, not very much, not very much, because it's not a mainstream bestseller yet, but it's going to have to be.
No, but I mean, the 28 years that you were doing this, engaged in this project, what did you learn?
Well, I had some savings, praise God.
Right.
Okay.
And I've read at least one of your essays on the subject, and I was very interested in what you had to say about the King James Bible.
And I have to say, in my days of ignorance, when I was sort of a normie, do you know what a normie is?
I do.
Yeah.
I used to be, for most of my life, I was a normie and a normie establishment, what's more.
I sort of, public school and then Oxford and all that.
And I kind of believed in the stories we were told and I believed in Shakespeare.
I thought a man from Stratford had written Shakespeare.
And I thought that the British Empire was a great endeavor.
And I thought the King James Bible was really the only one.
It was written in the language of God.
And there were all sorts of, Books to support me in this, you know, people like Adam Nicholson wrote a book about the making of the King James Bible.
And now, probably not as much as you, but I look at it with a degree of skepticism.
Good.
Yeah, yeah.
But before we go there, and I think that is an interesting point of discussion, tell me about the different versions of the.
Old and New Testaments.
Because I'm, at the moment, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm inclining towards the Septuagint.
Is it Septuagint or Gint?
Septuagint.
I'm inclined towards Septuagint.
I think that the Masoretic texts are a sort of medieval Jewish thing, not as reliable as the Septuagint.
But tell me, am I right or wrong?
All right, first of all, I have to pick up on your mention of Adam Nicholson, his book Power and Glory, The Making of the King James Bible.
He's a contemporary historian, Adam Nicholson, and I've read other books of him.
He's a most wonderful writer.
His power of narrative is second to none.
And he, in this book Power and Glory, describes the character of King James and of the translators, from which I have to say the spirit of Jesus was not in them.
And the spirit of Jesus could not come out of them.
He really exposes their character.
And in my book, have I got a copy here?
Yes.
In my book, The Study Companion with the Keys of the Kingdom Bible, I pay royalties to Adam Nicholson to quote at length from his book, exposing the characters.
But really, he should be paying me back some royalties because I've recommended his book to so many people who have come back to me and said, what a magnificent book.
So, It's evidence against the character of the translators and of the commissioning king.
So the king was throwing in jail those who would not bow down to his Church of England religion.
And he was using his translators, including the chairman, Sir Lancelot Andrews, as inquisitors.
So they were going into filthy dungeons, acting as inquisitors and trying to trick Christians.
So persecutors of Christ.
So that's the first thing about the King James Bible.
The people behind it were not godly people.
So the Spirit of God could not come out of them.
Yes, who was the worst?
I mean, I really didn't want you to do this because I wanted to, because I think this is a.
Oh no, where have you gone?
Sorry, you ignored my instructions and went straight into the King James Bible.
The problem is that we're now going to have to go there.
Rather, anyway, it doesn't matter.
Tell me, you asked about the yeah, I mentioned it, but we'll go back and then we'll go forward because I wanted to pick up on your mention of Nicholas.
Yeah, I know you did.
So, Lancelot Andrews, he was clearly, I remember this scene.
Well, you're right.
Some of these translators are going to torture Christians who just don't go with the mainstream narrative.
I can't remember what their particular objections were, but you're right.
It's not a godly thing to be going to torment people over tiny doctrinal differences.
So, Lancelot Andrews, who else was there?
Oh, Robert, overall.
And there was somebody else.
The surname Sparks, I forget his surname, first name.
Bastard Sparks, terrible, terrible individual.
I hope there's no relation of mine, but in the preface to my translation, I mentioned the names of these people.
And so, yeah, would you go to a sermon, listen to the doctrine from somebody who's just been persecuting, torturing the sons of God, you know, and yeah, people who ended up being tortured to death, didn't they?
These men were sort of translating the King James Bible and preaching and then going to dungeons to act as inquisitors.
They were, it really was that bad, yeah.
So, you can't trust them.
And Sir Lancelot Andrews, the uh chairman of the translators, well, you say, yes, you remember that particular scene, it's quite early in the book.
Oh, he is a nasty, cold-blooded, cold-hearted inquisitor, horrible man.
Yeah.
So I get that they weren't nice people, although that doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't sufficiently scholarly to deliver a good translation.
But I suppose they were also politicians, or rather they were enthralled to the regime, so they had to produce a particular slant.
Is that another problem?
Well, yes, very much so.
I mean, they were commissioned to do it, paid to do it.
So, yeah, well, that's easy, isn't it?
But really.
How many were there?
Oh, about 50 odd.
So, there are remarkable contradictions and inconsistencies, such as world without end and at the end of the world.
Well, which is it?
You know, Isaiah 45 17 and Ephesians 3 21, world without end.
Matthew 13, at the end of the world.
Well, which is it?
Actually, it's neither of them.
They're both wrong.
So, you know, it says in early 1 Corinthians chapter 2 or 3 that spiritual things are understood spiritually.
Well, if you're a persecutor of Christians, you cannot be one of Christ's sheep.
You just cannot be because you wouldn't act like that.
And so, if you do not have the spirit of Christ in you, it's not going to come out in you.
So, they did not understand spiritual things.
And I'll say that from the mountaintops.
They did not understand spiritual things.
And so every major theme of the Word of God is shipwrecked in the King James Bible.
Every major theme.
That is going to be anathema, of course, to so many Americans.
Because, I mean, if we like the KJV over here, I'd say a huge chunk of American Christians think it's not just the best translation.
But the only translation, and you've probably seen this on the internet, there are these various.
The KJV only.
I get more trouble from them than anyone.
I could take some of them to court for things they've said.
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Really?
People have sent me screenshots of Facebook, things that have been said.
I could take them to court.
But they also do things like numerology, don't they?
They talk about the.
Well, it's been a while since I looked at that one, but I've seen people saying that it is literally.
God's creation because of the symmetry and the number and where the words appear.
And if you run it through a computer, this or that happens.
And you come across these theories, haven't you?
Well, yes, concerning the King James Bible, that's all myth.
There is a remarkable numerical structure to the word of God in the Hebrew and Greek.
There really is.
And there's an appendix at the back of my translation, Keys of the Kingdom.
Have you seen my translation, James?
I haven't.
No, I haven't.
All right.
Well, this is it.
Red and gold edition 2024.
There's an appendix about the miracle of Genesis 1, verse 1, which in Hebrew is Barashit.
Now, there's a remarkable numerical structure to that, showing that no human mind could have come up with that sentence.
And so, you know, I've analysed it deeply.
But to say that the King James Bible makes some miraculous mathematical answer is fallacy.
Because, well, it might do within itself, but it would not translate back into what.
The prophets and apostles wrote.
So, this has been my labor to translate, to produce a translation that would translate back exactly into the original.
And the King James Bible would not do that.
I mean, I'll give one example.
I've already given two world without end and at the end of the world, both of which are wrong.
John 1 3, all things were made through him, were made.
It's wrong.
So, the Greek verb.
Verbs to make or create are poio and katizo.
Well, it's not either of those in John 1 3.
It's agenito, which is the standard it came to pass.
It's nothing to do with anybody creating anything.
Now, this is grammar, and this grammar I learned from my father, and I learned from schools, and I learned from university, and I taught at university.
People do not look at this grammar.
They say, Oh, all things were made through him.
Were made, it's in the King James Bible, it's right.
Well, hold on.
Look at the Greek, again ito.
So, when these KJV only people scream at you and say that it's inspired by God and it's better than other translations, what they'll do is compare it to other translations.
They'll never compare it back to the Hebrew and Greek.
So, again ito means it came to pass, it arose, it happened.
So, just clarify, what should the sentence read?
Oh, right, I'll read it from here.
I mean, all things arose through it.
Everything arose through it, meaning the Logos.
All things arose through the Word of God.
Here we are.
Everything through it arose.
And apart from it, there arose not even one thing that has arisen.
You see, it's what arose through the Word of God.
And John's testimony everything in this Gospel I'm writing you. Has been inspired by the word of God, arose through the word of God, activated by God's word.
And at the end, he also makes testimonies that all these things are true.
So it's, if you like, is a cliche, it's book ended with John's testimony that everything in it is true and from the word of God.
It's nothing to do with anybody creating anything anywhere.
It's all made up.
But how does that do to the significance of that phrase?
Just explain it.
Sounds as if I'm stupid, all right.
Well, it's John 1 3 is John's testimony that everything in his gospel that he records in this narrative of events that happened through Christ they were all through the power of the word of God.
Whereas the KJV and the other institution Bibles try to make out they twist it and try to make out that it's a passage showing that Jesus was the creator in Genesis 1 1.
But there is no verb in John 1 3 that means make or made.
I'm still being thick here.
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Right.
Well, they are trying to present you with a passage to show that Jesus is the creator in Genesis 1 who made the heavens and the earth.
But he wasn't.
It was Elohim.
So what they're saying is false.
Their doctrine is false.
Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
And Romans 1 says that he was out of the seed of David.
And so we know where he was born in Bethlehem.
Right.
So he wasn't around when Elohim was creating the heavens and the earth.
Okay, all things were made by him.
Without him was not anything made.
Right.
Okay.
So see, that's fake translating.
I can see it's bad, it's inaccurate.
Translating, and you could be right, it could be uh political.
What do you think about um um King James being essentially an occultist?
Well, I know he wasn't a cultist.
Do you think he was even a believing Christian, or do you think he's one of the working for the dark side?
No, I think he might have been a Christian in flesh, called himself a Christian, as many people do, but.
You know, you have to be reborn, um, by renewed by the Spirit of God.
That's what happened to me in December 1979.
You know, as I've expressed it many times, the old Christopher Sparks died in good riddance, and a new Christopher Sparks walked out of that church just yearning to get a Bible and to learn what it was all about.
Well, yeah, you can call yourself a Christian, like the Queen did, recent Queen.
Well, she obviously wasn't.
You won't listen to my podcast I've just recorded with Jesse Zabota.
Oh, okay.
Who's a former mother of darkness?
Do you know about the mothers of darkness?
No, I don't.
Well, you know that Satanists run the world, don't you?
Yes.
Yeah.
The mothers of darkness are the kind of high priestesses of this, the satanic cult, whatever.
And she tells me, believe it or not, that the Queen was on the Council of Nine.
And the Council of the Nine is a very, very, very high up and evil occultic organization.
So, yeah, I don't think our beloved Queen, our late beloved Queen Elizabeth, was in fact a woman of God either.
I don't think the rules, generally, I think they've been.
Somebody told me they've been Satanists since about 1327.
All right, I didn't know that.
King Alfred was a Bible believer.
There's a wonderful statue of him at the foot of the High Street in Winchester.
And now he translated some passages of the Bible and he wanted to run his country along the laws of God.
But that's certainly not what's happened to us in the last 70 years since the Second World War.
Just everything wrong and bad has got its nose in the tent, got its camel through the gate.
And So, was King James a Christian?
He might have called himself a Christian, but he was not a Bible believing Christian.
Otherwise, he would not have authorized what the translators came up with.
And these doctrines that they upheld, like the three gods and Satan and hell, immortal soul, virgin birth, all these are from ancient Babylon.
Right, yes.
You're aware of that then, James?
Yes.
Well, I am.
Because of a book that another book lover, collector, he runs an antiquarian bookshop and he's an evangelical late year.
And he gave me this book on how the Catholic Church sort of incorporated lots of kind of Babylonian myths.
What's the book called?
Syncretism.
What is it called?
I've mentioned it before on the podcast.
I forget.
I'll go and get it in a moment.
You've probably got it.
Yeah.
I have got a couple of books about that.
Hang on.
I'll just go check in the book.
I think it's The Two Babylons.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Reverend Alexander Hislop.
Hislop.
Yes.
Yes.
I've got that.
Wonderful.
That's in my bibliography at the back of my translation.
I knew you'd know it.
And I can say it's a great read, and it's particularly great if you are.
Of a sort of anti popish disposition, and you and it and it's sort of you think, oh, the Catholics they believe all this nonsense about this and that.
But I have heard since that he's his scholarship is not first rate, that he makes he makes he makes some errors.
He makes these, he's so carried away with his argument that he sometimes uses dodgy evidence to support his thesis.
All right.
Well, I wouldn't just put this on the Catholic Church.
I think that's the Catholic Church is an easy target because of what we know about the Vatican.
But the Protestant Church believes these same things.
And even before the Catholic Church arose through Bishop Damascus, These things were being taught.
You know, the immortal soul and hell.
It's in Luke 16.
And Jesus tells the story of the poor man who goes to Abraham's bosom, which is not the biblical place, and the rich man who goes to Hades, which is not the biblical place either.
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But did you know that story, Luke 16, is straight out of Homer?
It's in Homer's Odyssey.
It's a man called Tantalus.
So.
First, Homer wrote the Iliad, the Nine Years' War, and then the Odyssey.
The Odyssey, this journey by the soldier Odysseus, his return home to his wife Penelope and all his adventures.
It's a travel fiction.
And on the way.
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So, first, Homer wrote the Iliad, the Nine Years' War, and then the Odyssey.
The Odyssey, this journey by the soldier Odysseus, his return home to his wife Penelope and all his adventures.
It's a travel fiction.
And on the way, Odysseus is given a guided tour of Hades.
And there he sees a man named Tantalus, who is tantalizingly close to getting a drink of water.
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And fire keeps coming.
And so, this story.
Got circulated and then picked up by the scribes and Pharisees, whom Jesus was rebuking in Luke 16 and saying that they're money lovers.
So, by having this poor man, this beggar in Abraham's bosom, they were saying, Look at the great rewards for being poor, and then they could oppress him with taxes.
And so, we see already before the Catholic Church this idea of eternal torture.
Was being taught and the immortal soul was being taught, and then it got incorporated into Luke.
Well, Jesus told that story to expose the scribes and Pharisees because it's such a ridiculous story.
And some people say to me, There we are, Luke 16, Jesus' description of hell.
They don't.
The irony is, Jesus is mocking it, he's mocking it, stupid story.
And it's yeah, you can find it in Homer's Odyssey, and so.
It was a fiction story that was circulating.
And so, yeah, the rich man goes off to punishment.
So, don't want to be rich.
Meanwhile, the scribes and Pharisees are raking it in.
So, hypocrites.
So, these things were around.
And of course, in the New Testament, there's Beelzebub.
So, you know, another mythological thing.
So, my point is that these things were around before the Catholic Church.
Do you think we should go back to the beginning now?
I mean, you can maybe clear up some confusion I have, lots of people have probably, about what is the most trustworthy original source for the Bible?
Right.
Yeah.
Now, that's a difficult question to answer because it's a mixture.
This goes back to your early point about the Old Testament and New Testament texts.
So I think the best thing for people to get hold of is J.P. Green's Interlinear and the Keys of the Kingdom Bible.
So my translation has been mainly done through J.P. Green's Hebrew and Greek Interlinear, but by no means sticking slavishly to it.
So his Old Testament is based on the Masoretic.
You've already raised the Septuagint.
There are some passages where the Septuagint has got it right and the Masoretic has got it wrong.
But overall, we have to be discerning because both of them have got the Old Testament books in the wrong order.
Both of them have got the Song of Solomon and Esther, which are not biblical books.
There's no righteous person in them.
They're just celebrations of sin and lust and revenge.
And So they've both got that.
They've both got the prophecies of Ezekiel in the wrong order.
Did you know about this?
Ezekiel made 13 dated prophecies.
And they should obviously be in chronological order.
But they're not in the Masoretic text, the Septuagint text, the King James Bible.
They're just an absolute muddle.
And this is deliberate.
It was done deliberately.
Was it?
By whom?
Well, whoever had charge over the manuscripts.
So, the scrolls would have been on rollers.
So, unrolling the scroll of Ezekiel, possibly a mistake could have been made.
But funny that the mistake ends with having the book of Ezekiel concluding with chapters 40 to 48, which talk about reconstructed temple and circumcision and bringing back all the feasts and sacrifices.
Well, all these things were done away with in Christ.
But it looks as if there's going to be another temple built in Jerusalem.
So that's why they've concocted it like that.
And of course, most Christians think that that is a kind of prophetic structure, but it's not the last prophecy.
And there's not going to be another temple.
You know, they tried it once in Jerusalem and fire came out of the ground.
The laborers couldn't get near it.
And that's what will happen again.
So, you say got it right.
How do you know what is, apart from discernment, how do you know what the actual correct version of.
You mean the order of the prophecies?
Just generally.
Oh, well, yeah, grammar.
Grammar, like that, John 1 3, you know, again, it's not a plural.
Passive transitive dynamic verb, it's a stative, intransitive, singular, active.
So they've really got it wrong and they've messed up the doctrine.
And then, I mean, I could give countless examples at 2 Timothy 1 9 and Titus 1 2, before the world began in the King James.
It's nothing like that's nothing like the Greek.
No, no, sorry, sorry.
I'm see your problem, Christopher, is you know far too much, and I'm trying to.
Maintain some discipline here and keep you on track because we're not all as clever as you.
And I'm just trying to get down to the because if you're talking about the correct translation, we need to know that the stuff you're translating is trustworthy, don't we?
So I'm quite interested to know that the Septuagint, am I right in thinking, predates the Masoretic text by about what a thousand years.
Right, well, this, in my opinion, is all myth.
I do not believe that the Septuagint was made before the days of Christ.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe that Jesus and Paul cited from the Septuagint.
I believe that the translator, singular translator, of the Septuagint used the Greek New Testament texts where Christ and Paul cited the Hebrew prophets.
The translator used those to save him a bit of translating from the Hebrew.
That's why they line up.
And there were two bishops in the Victorian time, Westcott and Hort.
Now, they concocted a false New Testament text, but so they were not exactly men of Christ.
However, they were extremely knowledgeable and they said that Oregon was the translator of the Septuagint.
And I agree with them.
There aren't many places I agree with them, but I agree with that.
Oregon, Oregon, yeah, second, third century.
And.
Third century AD.
Yes, yes.
And that's why some of the passages where Christ and Paul cite the prophets are the same as the Septuagint, because the Septuagint translator used what they said.
Oh, I see.
Well, that could be right.
I don't.
You see, this is the problem, Christopher, with.
So much, well, I often say that Christianity is the biggest and deepest of all the rabbit holes because, I mean, yes, we all, well, certainly those of us who believe in God, um, agree that it's the most important thing, yeah, um, but then you've got 2,000 years just since Christ's time,
2,000 years of some of the most learned scholars that have ever existed.
And they've all reached different conclusions about this stuff.
And it's very, very hard to know.
And then you've got the authorities, like the various churches.
It's very, very hard to know.
You must find this hard to know whom to trust.
Because these are not stupid people.
But if you're right, if the Septuagint was written by Oregon, And that the Masoretic texts are what?
No, well, the Masoretic texts are about 1000 AD, aren't they?
I don't know the exact date.
But they're medieval, they're early medieval.
Yes, but the Septuagint recently has developed a bit of a cult following, and a couple of people have written to me, Why didn't you translate from the Septuagint?
Because you get the same old problems.
You know, somebody pops up a YouTube video and say, Making a long video about the Septuagint, and so people start believing this and it circulates and you know it becomes clickbait.
But as I said just now, you know, the Septuagint has got the same problems with the order of the books, two books that shouldn't be in there, Ezekiel's prophecies in the wrong order, and some other real clumsy translations.
But what I do like about it is in Genesis 5 and 11, it gets the dates right, and so.
I have used the Septuagint for those dates and other things as well.
I've got footnotes, and I've got thousands of footnotes in my translation where I've gone to the Septuagint or something else.
But Genesis 5 and 11 is really important to get these dates right because the dates in the Masoretic make it impossible for Christ to be crucially descended from those people because the years are out.
That was done.
Are they?
So what dates are we talking about?
The ages of certain patriarchs and men, you know, how long they lived when they were born.
And so the Masoretic puts this out.
There's a complicated video about this on YouTube, which I listened to years ago, and I had to listen to it several times.
And I forget the name of the man, but again, it's in my bibliography.
And the man who has done this is incredibly.
Detailed and scholarly, and you know, you really can't sort of be doing an oil painting and listen to this and keep up with it.
You've got to watch the screen and make notes.
And so, that was his thesis that it was the dates were put out deliberately in the Masoretic text to put out the years for Christ, right?
And the Septuagint gets it right.
The Septuagint does get it right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I've used their dates and I've footnoted it extensively.
Okay.
So you've translated the Bible.
How did it change what you understand about Jesus and Christianity and what it's all about?
All right.
What a wonderful question, James.
It changed everything because.
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When I became a believer, when I was born again in 1979 or filled with the Spirit of God, I just trusted the church Bibles until the beginning of the 1990s.
So the 1980s was not a particularly good decade for me because I was trusting these church Bibles.
But the 1990s got better and better when I started finding out.
So, well, the first thing I found out was that the immortal soul is not true, then that hell is not true.
And then there's a going to heaven at death is not true, and there's one thing after another.
And as I compared the Greek and the Hebrew to the English translations, I could see you know they were completely out of whack, as I think it's Americanism, isn't it?
Don't really like it, um, so I think that's what they say.
And for example, John 11 26, it should say.
And whoever is believing in me will most certainly not die throughout the aeon.
That's what the Greek says, will most certainly not die.
But the King James has, whosoever believeth in me, suddenly shall never die.
Never.
Well, there's no word never in the Greek of John 11 26.
The Greek for never is oudepote, and it's not in there.
And then there are five other Greek words, who may, which means.
Most certainly not an intense negative, so certainly not, definitely not die.
Then, three words they leave out ice ton aonia.
This is easy Greek, and you know, this was I saw this at the very beginning, and it means throughout the aeon will most certainly not die throughout the aeon.
That is after the resurrection that Jesus and Martha were talking about.
Okay, so what does that mean in practical terms for us?
Okay, John 11 26 in the KJV means don't worry about dying because you go straight to heaven.
John 11 26 in the Greek of the Apostle John means that you will be resurrected on the day of resurrection and then you will put on immortality and you won't die.
Very different.
Resurrection as opposed to immortal soul.
The gospel of Jesus is a gospel of resurrection.
So.
We do get the period of sort of rotting in the ground or whatever happens if you get cremated.
And only after Jesus comes back do we get brought back to life.
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Is that the idea?
Yes.
Yes.
He said the hour is coming when those who are in the graves will hear my voice, John 5 28.
It's going to be quite hard, isn't it?
I can see the sort of the bones of skeletons, you know, like that amazing scene in.
Is it Ezekiel?
Where the bones suddenly acquire flesh.
We had that in the Sea of Israel.
Really good.
Great scene.
The true Israel, yeah.
But I can see it's the ones.
You can see why the Satanists invented cremation, can't you?
Because it's going to become much harder for God to put all those bits back together again.
Oh, well.
Yeah, resurrection is a recreation anyway, because, you know, a body that's been in the grave for 2,000 years is just going to be.
Particles of bones that's that's very so it doesn't make much difference.
God's just gonna go, yeah, it gives God no problem, yeah.
No, it doesn't, you're right.
I mean, one underestimates God at one's peril.
So, okay, Adam was created out of the dust of the ground, yeah.
So, I get that.
So, okay, so we're talking about a difference in sort of cause and effect and time scale, basically.
That, yes, yeah, okay.
Tell me what else we learned, you've learned.
The shockers.
Give me the.
Socket TV.
All right.
Now, some people love this and some people hate it.
And that is that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was Adam.
Whoa.
Was he?
Now, Romans chapter 5, people read Genesis 3 in isolation.
And think, oh, here we got Adam, the serpent, and the woman, and then God.
Well, there's more to it than that because Romans 5 is a commentary on it, and 1 Timothy 2 14 is a comment on it.
So, Romans chapter 5 says, Sin came into the world through one man, the transgression of Adam.
It was Adam who was the sinner, created the sin.
Paul doesn't mention any woo woo Satan being.
It just came into the world through.
Adam, the transgression of Adam.
And then, of course, you get these paintings of Adam and Eve naked and taking an apple, and there's a snake in a tree.
Well, this is more myth.
As if Adam, like Eve, was also deceived.
1 Timothy 2 14.
Have you ever read this?
Adam was not deceived.
That's what it says.
Which one?
1 Timothy 2 14.
In the institution Bibles and the keys of the kingdom Bible.
So it's not a translation problem.
Even in the institution Bibles, even they say, and Adam was not deceived.
Right.
So they haven't corrupted that verse, but they don't believe it or had never seen it.
So Adam was the deceiver.
Was he?
So where's the snake in all this?
Or is it not a snake or what?
John the Baptist came on the scene calling the enemies of God and Christ serpents.
And Matthew 23, Jesus calls the scribes and Pharisees serpents.
And in Revelation, John calls the enemy the ancient serpent and the dragon.
And so in Isaiah, there's crocodile.
So all these animal phrases are used.
No, wolves and snakes.
These are men, women, false teachers, false prophets, pseudo didactoros, false teachers.
But the serpent features quite prominently in Genesis.
Yes, well, it's Adam deceiving his wife.
That's why.
Right.
And what the sort of the patriarchy kind of rewrote this to make the woman the fall guy, as it were.
Yes.
Yes.
Because then, Genesis 3 15, first the angel of God, it wouldn't have been God because nobody has seen God, it would have been the angel of God who always appeared before him as his ambassador angel, first spoke to the serpent and then to Adam and then to the woman.
But the serpent is Adam.
So he's talking to the evil nature in Adam.
Right.
And then.
To Adam, the man, what would be the consequences of your sin?
And then to Eve.
But it says that she will crush the head of the serpent.
But now somebody told me this at the Stand in the Light Festival last May, where I met your brother and had a good talk with him.
Ah.
Yes, I'm going to tell you more about you.
And so, yeah, so a friend there told me that it should say, she would crush the head of the serpent.
And he said, that's what it says in the Latin.
So I said, well, if that's what it says in the Latin, it will have to be very specific about the gender because that's how Latin works.
And I said, I'll look at it when I get home.
And certainly the Latin insists, she will crush the head of the serpent.
So she was the deceived one.
And in Revelation 12, you see the woman who by then is Christ, sorry, I beg your pardon, who by then is Israel, the 12 tribes, crushing the head of the serpent.
The serpent is hurled to the ground.
Biblical figure of speech for defeated.
Okay.
Well, I just thought it was because women are scared of snakes that it was Eve's job.
I mean, they are.
Girls are.
Squeamish about snakes, aren't they?
I thought it was something you'd be so not just girls.
I am too, can't bear them.
But so, yeah, there's something in them.
So that's why the angel of God calls Adam a serpent, and John the Baptist and Jesus called their enemies serpents because it's a figure of speech, an insult.
It's called hypocatastasis in the Greek figure of insult.
And so, Jesus called Herod a fox.
Now, go tell that fox.
Did he?
Okay, I'm going to give you a quick test.
Which psalm do foxes appear in?
Oh, I don't know.
63.
63.
Yeah.
Right.
I should have known that.
Let them fall upon the edge of the sword that they may be a portion for foxes.
How extraordinary you should have mentioned that psalm because verse four is my favorite verse.
His loving kindness is better than life.
And I'm going to make a video reading that very psalm.
It's on my bed in my top of my palm.
I love that video.
This is better than the life itself.
I mean, I suppose we all have our favourite translations.
I was going to actually ask you about this.
I read in your essay that your demolition of the KJV, you pointed out that some of the translations, they just like, they really didn't understand it.
They didn't know, they don't make sense.
They were just, we're told that there were a great committee of scholars and that there were different.
Sections of the Bible were allocated to these groups and then they wrangled over it.
But it's clear to me, just the I know the Psalms better than any other part of the Bible because I read them every day and I learn them.
And in the early days, I was I thought, well, I've got to learn the KJV version, that's the gold standard.
But I tend to use the Coverdale now because he makes more sense.
And there was Psalm 64, Psalm 64 was a psalm that I learned.
In my KJV learning days, and it just is clumsy, it doesn't sort of.
I think that the translators didn't quite understand what they were translating and came up with this sort of doggerel.
This bit, they encourage themselves in an evil matter.
That makes sense.
They commune of laying snares privily.
They say, Who shall see them?
They search out iniquities.
They accomplish a diligent search.
Both the inward thought of every one of them and the heart is deep.
It's such a.
I don't really have much of a sense of what's going on.
And then there's the bit where it says, So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves.
Make their own tongue to fall upon themselves, all that's it.
Whereas the Coverdale translation is, yea, their own tongues shall make them fall.
That sort of makes more sense that their lies will undo them.
They're going to be tripped up on their own words.
Yes, but exactly.
But the King James people were not up to it.
And they already had 50 years earlier, they had the Coverdale, because they nicked some of Coverdale's.
Phrases wholesale, and some of them they feel obliged to change.
I don't know where you are on cover, Do you like him?
I haven't read much of him, I have quoted him somewhere, but no, I haven't read much of it.
Anyway, that's just I was just getting something off you.
You said just now they were not up to it.
Well, that is exactly right.
The King James Bible translators were not up to it.
If they were, they'd have got the books in the right order, they would have got the New Testament letters in the right order, but they haven't, and they would not have.
Made many of the blunders they make.
Psalm 49, verse 2, it says, Both the sons of Adam and the sons of men.
And they put both low and high.
Well, that's not what it says.
And I mean, there are just so many, so many passages.
And then Romans 1 16, the KJV has got.
Gentile and Greek.
And no, what does it have?
Both Jews and Greek.
Then over the page, Romans 2, they've got both Jew and Gentile.
They've changed it.
And Romans 2 9, 2 10, they put Jew and Gentile.
So this phrase, Jew and Gentile, is fake.
It should be Judahite and Greek, not Jew and Gentile.
Yes, well, I'm glad you said that.
Because I've done a whole podcast on this subject with pretty much William Fink, who heartily disapproves of this invented word, Gentile, which comes from the Vulgate, doesn't it?
It's a lazy translation of gentilis, which Jerome somehow decided to use, but it means nothing.
No, well, originally it meant non Roman, so I've read.
It means the nation.
What's the actual Greek word that's.
Ethnos.
Ethnos, the nations, exactly.
Yeah, nations.
Yeah, where we get ethnicity and this sort of thing from.
But you've got so many biblical scholars talking about Jews and Gentiles as if these words had any meaning, and they just.
Yeah.
It should be Judahite and Greek.
Now, the Judahites, that's the house of Judah, and the Greeks.
John 7.35, is he about to go to the dispersion of the Greeks and teach the Greeks?
The Greeks were the dispersed Israelites.
That's why the New Testament's in Greek.
That's why Paul went to these Greek places, because that's where the dispersed Israelites were.
And that vision in Acts chapter 10 that Peter has through the sheet that's lowered and he sees fish and serpents and animals, these were all names that the house of Judah were calling dispersed Israelites.
It's all over the Old Testament.
So, is it your contention, because this would be quite controversial, is it your contention that Paul was basically bringing the dispersed Israelites back to the fold?
He wasn't after other races.
He was just basically bringing God's chosen people, the 12 tribes, back home.
Right, so you know about this.
Yes, the new covenant is expressed in Jeremiah 31.
Behold, the days are coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
And then Jesus' Last Supper, he pronounces the new covenant, and it's cited in Hebrews 8, verse 8, exactly the words of Jeremiah I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
Those are the covenant people.
There's no covenant with Jews and Gentiles.
Nowhere is that written.
However, a lot of British Israelites would disagree with me and do disagree with me very strongly because they say only Israelites can be saved.
And I really object to that.
I hate that teaching with every fiber of my being.
And yes, in 2 Kings, no, sorry, I think it's 2 Chronicles, chapter 6, it talks about others coming, foreigners who are not of the house of Israel.
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It says this.
And so, in two kings, yeah, two chronicles, I think.
I'll turn to it just so.
I'm very glad you said this, Christopher, because it makes me uncomfortable too.
I think of people of African heritage, for example, or maybe people from South America who may be descended from Mayans who sacrificed loads of people to the gods but have then found Christ.
Are we just.
Are we saying, yeah, but they don't count because they were never one of God's chosen people, so they're going to burn in?
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
That's not true.
No, it's a horrible teaching.
It is.
Here we are, 2 Chronicles 6 32.
This is Solomon praying, and also concerning the foreigner who is not from among your people Israel, but has come from a far country for the sake of your awesome name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm.
If they come and pray towards this house, then hear from the heavens.
2 Chronicles 6 32.
So there we have it.
And so I get people writing to me who are.
Not Caucasian origin, you know, and they love Christ and they understand what I tell them and they're hungry.
And that one of them who absolutely loves, he's Asian, young Asian man, he absolutely loves all this about, you know, the white Caucasian Israelites and this whole history.
And so, yes, anybody who comes to Christ who wants to come to the Father.
And come through Christ with the shed blood of Christ is going to be forgiven.
You know, if you were running a business and two people upset you, a European and an African, and they both sobbed with apology, you'd forgive both of them.
Well, is God not more merciful than us?
His loving kindness is better than life itself.
Yes, for thy loving kindness is better than the life itself.
So, this teaching that only white Europeans can be saved, I kick it into the sea of forgetfulness.
It's wrong.
Which psalm is that 63 verse?
Oh, it is.
Oh, right.
Sorry, I was just the one we were just talking about.
Only that one, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, God is merciful.
That's good.
Okay, I'm glad we've sorted that one out, Christopher.
Um, so we definitely agree on that.
So, um, what tell me, Jesus is the son of God, isn't he?
Yes, few, few, yes.
Oh, you know, I was really seriously, I was really worried about that one.
I thought you were going to tell me that he wasn't.
Ah, right.
Yes, yes.
I'm really relieved.
Good, good, good.
Oh, and of course, there are huge schisms between the Orthodox and probably everyone else I don't know about the filioque.
Do you know about the filioque?
No.
Controversy?
Well, let's not address it here because if you don't know about it, it's just about whether the father comes from.
No, I can't do it.
My brother's just gone orthodox and it now matters to him because that's a doctrinal thing, which is.
I'm quite naughty in a way, and I'm not going to commit to any one particular.
I love you, evangelicals.
But I do have certain problems with your lot, which is okay.
Well, I'll give you an example.
This is quite naughty of me, but okay.
So the other day, for whatever reason, I went and had tea with this evangelical guy, and he's a man of God.
And like you, he could tell me the exact day and hour on which he found God, that God came to him and he was born again, and blah, blah, blah.
And we had jokes about the Psalms, and it was great.
And then he started talking to me about Israel.
And he spoke complete bollocks, stuff that I know to be untrue.
I mean, he'd fallen for the Zionist fallacy, the stuff that a lot of the kind of evangelical Christians, actually, are the evangelicals, the Christians in America believe about the nature of Israel and stuff.
And I thought, so God's come to you.
In whenever it was 1975, on two o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday, and you're clearly filled with the Spirit, and I can tell you, but He's not vouchsafed to you some certain key details.
How do I reconcile that with you?
You can't play the top Trump's game of, Look, I found God, I was born again on this day, but you.
And yet, tell me this bollocks you're spouting.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, mainstream stuff.
I get people commenting on my videos.
Uncertainty, unattractive, and actually, do you know what?
Prideful.
The kind of, the sort of, we know that why pride is considered the worst sin and why I always have to try and stop it in myself because it's quite tempting.
But that's Lucifer's sin.
Well, Lucifer is another fiction that should be translated Venus in Isaiah 14, verse 12.
Now you're clearly Babel.
You are, it says, what the son of the morning, he's Venus.
Well, that's gonna ruin that.
Yeah, it's about the king of Babylon, and you said about pride rising up.
Well, this happened to the king of.
Tyre, whose name was Hiram, and he's spoken about in Ezekiel 28.
And people say, Oh, look, that's Satan because it said Eden.
Well, there were other places called Eden at that time of Ezekiel.
It's mentioned.
But it's about the king of Hiram who was out of the tribe of Naphtali.
He is an Israelite and they're calling him Satan.
And it's a man who was a friend of King David, a friend of Solomon, helped build the temple, Solomon's temple.
Okay.
So.
There is no Lucifer.
No.
Well, the Luciferians are going to be in trouble then, aren't they?
Yes.
They've been using the wrong name all this time.
I presume you know the Light Paper.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, when that first came out, they asked me for an article about this.
And I said, no, that there is no Satan.
And of course, some people hate this because they love having Satan in the world because it's somebody to blame.
But what strikes at the heart of human pride is that all sin and evil.
comes from the human heart from within.
Jesus said this.
Mark 7.15, Jesus says, there is nothing outside of man that can defile him.
Nothing.
So, okay.
So, if so, all the traditions in your understanding about the fallen angels, the yeah, tell me about this.
Let's talk about the Nephilim that scene in Genesis where the sons of the what is it?
They find the sons of God, the sons of God, the daughters of men attractive, so they decide to shag them.
Yes, well, they're mixing with.
Women they should not have mixed with.
There's nothing in there to say that they're fallen angels.
I uploaded a video just this morning about this.
My video number 309 is entitled The Sons of God.
It deals with this subject.
So in Hebrew, sons of God is Beni Elohim.
And in one translation, the JPS, Jewish Publication Society, they put divine beings.
Well, it's Beni Elohim, which means sons of God.
They're not divine beings.
And there's nothing to say that these Nephilim are woo woo creepy spirits.
It just says that, you know, yeah, they were different peoples and they were Canaanites.
How do I know that?
Because after the flood, they reappear in Numbers 13 33.
So you remember the story of Joshua and Caleb, men of a different spirit, who go over into enemy lines and spy the Nephilim and come back and say, we can take them.
The Nephilim were a Canaanite tribe of men.
They weren't woo woo creepy spirits.
So the Nephilim, what does Nephilim mean?
Well, it's believed that it means fallen.
Right, well, that sounds like fallen ones, it's a plural word.
Wait, could mean fallen ones?
It could be, yeah, so you don't think, um, not fallen angels doesn't say that.
You're really upsetting me now, um, Christopher.
This is, I mean, okay, so I'm relieved to hear that Jesus is the Son of God, but I'm now very bothered by your, um, because obviously I'm quite invested in the, in the, um, in Lucifer and okay, so.
You maintain that the text does not support the claim that.
I mean, I agree that it's quite sketchy on this supposed war in heaven where a third of the heavenly hosts get cast down.
It's quite fragmentary, isn't it?
It's a description of that, if at all.
And you're saying it doesn't even happen.
Well, it's in Revelation chapter 12, and it's about that time of the day of the Lord.
Revelation 1:10, John says, I was in the Spirit on the day of the Lord.
So that's what Revelation is all about, that three and a half year period of the day of the Lord.
And Revelation 12 is an event in the time of that.
Where it says war in heaven, it means among the leaders.
Now, where do I get this from?
Genesis 2 4, Isaiah 1 2, Isaiah 1 10, Revelation 12 itself, the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 2 4, these are the generations of the heavens and the earth, right?
Generations.
Sky and clouds and clods of earth do not have children.
It's talking about rulers and those ruled.
And this is emphasized, excuse me, Emphasized in Isaiah 1 verse 2: here are heavens, here are earth.
Again, clouds and clods of earth don't have ears.
And then a few verses later, verse 10, Isaiah describes what he's talking about: rulers and those ruled.
So that's what heavens and earth means in Revelation 12.
And this war in heaven, it means war among the rulers.
War among the rulers.
And then where it says the serpent, Is hurled down, cast down.
This is biblical language in my translation.
These passages are footnoted.
The hurled to the ground, it's even talks about the word of God falling to the ground in one place in two kings, I think it is.
And so, I footnoted all these.
Hurled to the ground, we use it in English.
You know, that Derek is a cocky son, so he needs bringing down to earth, he needs bringing down to the ground.
It's used in English.
Where did we get it from?
It's a Hebrew idiom and a Greek idiom.
That's where we got it from.
Translating With Clarity And Accuracy00:04:15
Okay.
And hurled to the ground, it's used in Isaiah 14 about the king of Babylon.
You know, he was Venus, son of the morning.
So he was like the morning star, had a great reputation.
But because of his pride, he was hurled to the ground, brought down.
Okay.
So how has this actively changed your.
I mean, I sort of asked this before, but.
How has this shifted your application of your faith and your Christian practice?
Right now, yeah, this is perhaps the most relevant question.
I said earlier that the 1980s were a bit chaos for me because I still believed and trusted the church Bibles.
And, you know, the word of man, the word of flesh cannot save you as these Bibles, they're a mixture of flesh and spirit.
And when I started finding out the truth, now what the Bible is really about, I mean, this is 30 years of daily, intense study.
Getting up in the middle of the night to go down and check things.
Oh, does it really say, you know, in John 11 26, does it really say this?
And yes, yes, it does.
So, this intense, obsessive study for over 30 years, you know, you pick up biblical language.
And so, when you're stripped of this mainstream religion, you're left in the wilderness.
You cannot be part.
Of the church system and the church Bibles, because you want only one thing the Word of God translated properly, and then you're in the wilderness.
Well, that's when Moses found God, and John the Baptist, and Jesus, and Paul, and Elijah.
So, if it's good enough for them, you know, God of the wilderness and the desert fathers, pardon, and the desert fathers, all the monks that went into the desert.
Oh, well.
Did they, what did they come back with?
You know, this is always the point.
I just, And so I formulated targets and laws to, what should I say, test myself.
I was walking down my drive, oh, I don't know when, a couple of decades ago.
All right, Sparks, why are you right about John 11, 26?
Now, how can I defend it?
Well, it's grammar.
It's grammar.
So, oh, right.
Then I started to get a list of translating laws.
So I got grammar, internal harmony.
Logic, research, and text.
And then I thought, all right, what is the target of those?
Accuracy, clarity, and literariness.
So, accuracy, so it would translate back.
Now, it's grammatically correct.
Then, second, clarity.
Well, Exodus 38, verse 4 in the KJV is just utter gobbledygook.
Adam Nickerson raises a passage in 2 Corinthians 6.
Be ye enlarged in your bowels or something, straightened in your bowels.
And he said, Gobbledygook, yeah.
So that's Nicholson.
And so clarity.
And so I had this in my head, you know, I want a young Christian to be able to understand this, make it clear, make it accurate.
And then my third translating target, literariness.
So this means recovering.
Idioms, figures of speech, word order.
And these have been lost in all the Bibles, yes, and in the KJV too.
There are idioms that they just wipe out, and word order that they just wipe out.
When you've got the proper word order, it's far more emotive.
Writing Satan Lowercase In Job00:02:25
But in terms of how you live your life and what you think is going to happen to you, what do you think you need to do to be a Christian?
Has that changed at all?
Right, well, it has to come from God.
You can't decide, I want to be a Christian, because you don't know what it is.
You can go to church and say your prayers and read a Bible and think you're a Christian, but when God breathes His Spirit into you, then you really know what it is.
So when it's happened to you, you know, but it's not something you can do, it's something that God does.
And so removing from me all these False props of mainstream religion and throwing me onto proper translation.
So I live in a world and earth underneath a firmament with God beyond that, with Christ sitting at his right hand and the angels and those who were raptured in AD 70.
They are there and we are down here.
There are no woo woo demons and Satans and Lucifer and wobbly spirits.
There's just us.
Well, you say that.
You say that.
Ex cathedra.
How do you know when they're demons?
I don't say ex cathedra, I say in cathedra because I know that God created no such things because if He did, they would be in the Bible.
But of course, people do say, well, Satan's in the Bible.
What about Job?
I'm always getting this.
What about Job?
What about Job?
Well, Job chapter 16 describes Job's enemy as a human.
And a tzar, another word for enemy, and an avil.
An ungodly man.
He's a bully and a thug, and he's taken a dislike to Job.
So, as I say, he's described in chapter 16.
So, the word Satan in Job 1 and 2 should be written enemy, lowercase.
There is no Satan throughout the whole of the word of God.
Everywhere that word appears should be crossed out, and above it, write in lowercase, enemy or adversary.
And when Jesus casts out evil spirits, what's he.
Natural Enemies Versus Supernatural00:14:31
Casting out.
Right.
Now, I've been promising for a long time to make a video about this, but other things keep coming to the surface that I need to deal with.
As I have handwritten the script, so it's a variety of things.
So it's possession in the mind, strongholds of immorality, strongholds of false teaching, and sometimes it's a physical obstruction, such as causing deafness or muteness.
So it's a variety of things.
And In Mark, where it says, has the phrase unclean spirits, these are the people.
Now, the word spirit is often used for people.
And in Keys of the Kingdom, Bible, Hebrews 12 9, I footnote all the passages where spirit is put for people.
But, you know, some don't want this.
They want all these woo woo stories, and they're not true.
So, I suppose I've.
It was an obvious question, really.
which is I read a life recently of George Herbert, and the priests in those days were incredibly well educated.
I mean, Herbert went to Westminster and was probably at about the age of 10, was probably where the most advanced Oxbridge scholars are on their Greek course, Greek and Latin.
And he would have been fluent in Greek, Latin, and Hebrew.
Going back before then, in the early days when they were much closer to the time of Christ, they would have been reading this stuff presumably in the original Greek.
So they would have had access to, they would have been imbibing it straight from the source.
They would have known the nuances that you're talking about now.
They wouldn't have had subsequent translations.
Clouding the waters and mudding the issue.
So, if they didn't see these things, how come you're seeing them now?
Why wouldn't they go?
These traditions that are accumulating are complete rubbish.
Why was it to have to wait until the 21st century for you, Christopher Sparks, to be the revealer?
Right.
Well, I'm not the first.
George Herbert would have had these translations.
I mean, he was 17th century, wasn't he?
Yeah, yeah.
So he had the translations, but also dominant was the Latin Vulgate, which is another institution, Bible.
So they would have been trusting those.
And how many, I mean, did George Herbert go to the Greek and the Hebrew manuscripts?
I don't know.
I've only read his poetry.
I don't know, but I was using him as a sort of a type of that period, the sort of the scholar.
Somebody must have been reading the Greek and somebody must have known this stuff that you're talking about.
Yes, yes.
I have a book called The Protesters.
I was trying to find it last night.
It's in the pile of books to my right here, piled up the wrong way to fit them all in, as I can't find it at the moment.
But The Protesters gives the history of some of these others who did know truths.
And so it hasn't all just pop up.
When was that written?
Oh, maybe within the last 20 years or so.
The protesters.
I'll have to pull out all my books from that shelf and draw it up.
But that's what it's called The Protesters, written by a woman whose name I forget.
But you see, from the very beginning, the forming of the church fathers, you know, they taught some pagan things like the immortal soul.
And then the Roman church, and then the Protestant church, there was this religion of Christianity and its creeds.
So, no, Ridley and Cranmer, I think it was, wrote the 39 Articles of the Church of England.
Well, it starts with this three God system.
So, all these beliefs.
You know, Trinity, Satan, Hell, Immortal Soul, all these things were so embedded in the culture.
And, you know, I read, I've been reading recently, I read a book on Van Eck, the Dutch painter.
I've read one on Titian, and what was the other one?
Caravaggio and Rubens.
And now these painters, I mean, these are books I've had for a while, except that Caravaggio is new, but the others had for a long time.
And rereading them, and you see these paintings that they were commissioned to write.
It's upholding all the formal Christianity you know, popes in fish hats and bishops in fish hats, and feet off the ground, halos over their head, trinities in the heaven, devils and little demons, cherubim, little babies floating in the sky.
So, the whole of the culture was drunk with this.
False religion, and in Isaiah it's written, truth has stumbled in the street.
So the whole of the Western world was so saturated with this mixture, this pagan religion mixed with Christianity.
And this is discomforting and destabilizing to many people, but I'm afraid it's true.
Well, it is, I mean, it's quite shocking because what you're kind of saying, I mean, I don't want to put words into your mouth, but I mean, it's not an unreasonable.
Is that pretty much everything in Christianity since the original Bible, the original Greek and the original Hebrew, is just kind of woo and pagan bollocks?
So all those.
Yeah, but most of it.
I mean, is it your understanding that all those.
Monks who went out, you sounded quite dismissive of them.
All the desert monks who went to live out in caves in the desert, contemplating stuff, and all the great thinkers on Christianity or Augustine or whoever, all the great thinkers, they were all using false information to draw false conclusions, and that they didn't guide us towards the light, but steered us away from it in some ways.
Right, well, I don't know about those monks.
You know, the test is what did they come back with?
What were they saying?
But you know, it hasn't all well, they've written that for the Kalia, so you can read it.
They talk about demons quite a lot, which so you'd be quite dismissive of that.
Yes, I don't believe that there are these living evil spirits.
I don't believe it.
I don't believe that's biblical.
That's believed James, he describes demonic as meaning that which is.
Natural and of the flesh, flesh nature, natural.
And so the story of the pigs, you know, the man in Gennesaret with the pigs, who says he's got a legion of demons in him?
He does.
And yet people will believe that crazy madman who had to be shackled.
They get their doctrine from him, not from what Jesus did and what Jesus said.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to, obviously, I'm going to have to get hold of your Bible.
I find what you say really interesting and seductive in some ways, but I think you're wrong about demons.
I think you're totally wrong.
Well, where did they come from?
Well, I don't know.
Yeah, well, exactly.
That's the question.
But so, you know, the book of Revelation about Mystery Babylon.
This is Jerusalem in rebellion, which was destroyed in AD 70.
And ever since then, we have had influential men, theologians, and so on, pushing themselves forward.
The influential, the rich, the wealthy, and they've created this religion.
And the church fathers, again, influential.
And so powerful men have created this, and they've created a mixture of Bible and pagan.
Bible and Babylon.
So, Mystery Babylon has resurfaced.
But when the Word of God is translated properly, you're getting a different story.
So, I was thinking about this actually, because I've been, as we've been talking, I've been trying to formulate a kind of an instant reaction, an instant view on what you've been saying, which is really interesting.
But it seems to me that on.
Some level, you're not that you don't really believe in the supernatural very much.
Only you're saved.
But but that's that's.
Supernatural means above natural.
Yes, I only believe in God and Christ and the angels.
What about?
Oh, you do believe in angels and and and?
Do they?
Do they appear on earth?
Well, we don't know what they're doing because we're not told.
So all the people who claim to have been visited by angels over the years, were they talking bollocks or do you believe them?
Well, I wouldn't say that because I don't know their cases.
You know, I'd like to be genuine, both a judge, but do we need the appearance of angels?
No.
Well, yes.
We've got the word of God.
Well, I don't know.
I find there's something kind of almost sterile about your worldview.
I mean, I. You're very confident that you've got, you know, you talk about the moment when you were filled with a, when you were born again, yeah?
Yeah.
But then, I quite like the constant search for trying to live a godly life and seeking for signs of God, which he does.
I mean, it seems to me that he, that, that, That faith is a living thing, it's a living, it's an ongoing experience that God speaks to us.
He gives us little signs to show He's there.
He has a sense of humor.
I feel Him all around me and speaking to me.
I don't get that from you, but maybe I'm wrong.
Well, the words that I hear are the words of Scripture.
Now, sometimes I feel that God is saying something else to me that's not from the Scripture, but you know, I'll be very careful how I rephrase that.
You know, I'm not going to go around saying, God's told me to do this, God's told me to do that, because people do that and then something goes wrong.
You know, God told me to marry such and such a woman, somebody might say, and then they get divorced.
And, well, they weren't right, were they?
You know, or something else.
Perhaps that's not the best example.
But, you know, I'm conscious of God's presence, as you were saying yourself.
Yes, I'm very conscious of God's presence.
And I'm constantly, or mostly constantly, electrified about this truth of God.
And there's nothing more exciting to have discovered His real truth and to translate the Bible grammatically.
And I don't need all these.
Other stories of another supernatural.
You see, the first commandment you shall have no other gods before me.
Exodus 20, Deuteronomy 5 no other gods.
What were the kings of Israel constantly rebuked for by God's prophets turning aside to other gods?
And to me, you know, there's Satan, there's demons, Trinity.
This is turning aside to other gods.
And it's forbidden.
And We shouldn't be doing it.
And it's not biblical.
You know, they're not biblical truths.
So this is sin creating all this.
Well, hang on a second.
You're saying that when I'm looking for signs from God, I'm basically worshipping false idols.
No, not if you're looking for signs from God.
No, that's fine.
Well, that's who I'm asking for.
But no, what I'm saying is that this invention of Satan and hell and transhuman spirits.
The Satanists are going to be after you, the Luciferians, because they've been for thousands of years, they've been busily sacrificing children to their dark overlords to apparently no end whatsoever.
Worshipping False Idols00:06:14
Yes, and some of the Israelites did this.
They sacrificed horses as well, and they made their sons pass through the fire.
So, children on horses.
What, they put the children on the horses?
No, no, the horse is a separate sacrifice.
This is in the Bible.
I don't approve of that.
I don't remember that scene.
Well, it's in two kings sacrificing horses.
Really?
Bastards.
Yeah, and making their children, their sons, pass through fire.
And so that still goes on, by the way.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, of course it does.
Yeah, this is wicked.
I was going to.
Sorry, my wife just brought me some tea, and I was going to ask you an important question before we go.
I was going to ask you something that came to me.
Yeah, where are you?
Oh, you've got some tea as well.
Is that you?
You've managed it, it must be cold by now.
Yes, it is.
It's green tea.
I love green tea after my lunch.
Do you?
I don't drink coffee in the afternoon.
The Hungarians say of coffee, it's medicine in the morning, poison in the afternoon.
That's that's good old Hungarians.
They're right.
Now say it in Hungarian.
Oh, no, I can't do that.
I could make something.
You might not know the difference.
Even the Hungarians can't speak Hungarian.
It's so hard.
Where are your miracles?
Created by God and Christ.
Yeah, but do they happen?
Yes.
Today?
Yes, of course.
Yes, they do.
Well, phew.
I'm glad you acknowledge that one.
I was getting worried that you were going to take all the fun out of Christianity.
Oh, no.
30 years ago, I had an upset stomach.
I don't know why, but it was my stomach was just in agony.
I must have eaten something that didn't agree with me.
And I got fed up with it.
And after, you know, back in those days, I didn't know about keeping off pharmaceuticals like I know now.
And so after four days of, you know, pharmaceutical, Pills not working.
I lay on the floor for half an hour and prayed, and it went.
How long did you pray for?
So you said half an hour?
20 to 30 minutes, something like that.
Yes.
Yes, I believe in miracles.
Yes.
They don't happen as often as they did when Jesus was around and the apostles, because he was anointed with power by the Spirit of God to draw attention.
To his office as the Messiah of Israel.
And we are not given those same powers, but some things still do happen, which we have to say.
Like a friend of mine was parked at a traffic light, and the lights were red, and then they turned green.
And just for some reason, she didn't take off straight away.
She doesn't know why.
And then a car came roaring past through the red lights the other way at about 80 miles an hour, and she'd gone smack into him.
What held her back?
Yeah, I'd like to think so.
And we've all got many stories.
I'll tell you something.
This is pretty amazing.
You know, I don't look for signs.
I trust the word of God and I don't look for signs.
I really don't.
But a few years ago, I got a very nasty letter.
At the beginning of the lockdown, 2020, in May or June, I got a really nasty letter.
Typed letter from somebody saying, I loathe you, you foul creature, and I hate, hate, hate your friends.
37 pages written like that.
And then saying that he was going to, this fellow, whoever he was, was going to do this and that and threatening me to not publish any more books.
So I went for a walk on the South Downs Hills, an area that is known as Old Winchester Hill.
And I walked the afternoon in there praying about this.
And at that time I was going to call my translation, I'd just come up with the title, The Keys of the Kingdom Bible.
Then I get this threat of there'll be consequences and this nasty letter, not signed.
And so I go a walk on the hills, praying about this.
I sit on the hill, looking down over the sea.
Then it starts raining.
So I walk back to my car.
In the car park, parked next to my car is a car with the registration KTK.
No, sorry, G4KTK.
And I looked at it and I read, Go for Keys of the Kingdom.
Well, pretty remarkable.
That's a great story.
But you see, the thing is, obviously, that the guy was, it was demons telling him to write that.
That's the thing.
The reason he wrote it was because I said I didn't believe in Satan.
Yeah, well, that's because the demons were pissed off, as they would be.
Well, I know he was pissed off.
You see, you're letting him off the hook, James.
He was pissed off.
And he wrote this nasty letter.
We're never going to agree on this, Christopher.
Well, you might do when I make my video series on demons.
You might well do.
So, you know, never say never.
Out of my cold, dead hands, will you take my demons away from me?
Demons Pissed Off About Truth00:02:57
Why do you want them?
Because I just believe in the truth and it's very important to me.
And I just know too much about demons for them not to be real.
Well, you shouldn't.
You know, this is a distraction.
Your mind should be focused on God and Christ and your own mind and anything.
Well, I think it is.
I think it is.
Anything that's in you that's not of God is from your heart, Jesus says.
Matthew 15 19, Mark 7 15, Romans 1 32.
The lusts of their own heart, Paul says.
Well, I should be very interested to read your.
Translations of the Psalms, particularly just because I obviously know them better than other bits.
Um, yes, I love the Psalms like yourself, I absolutely love them.
They're the prayers we should be praying.
Well, they are, I mean, they're the basis of all prayers, aren't they?
Or most prayers, they seem to, um.
Yes I, I had this very interesting thing the other day about about um praise psalms um, which I won't give you.
I won't give you the details because because you'll just you'll just, you'll just think it's woo, woo.
But what I will say to you is that God definitely likes the praise psalms.
He does, he's just they make him happy.
He's not he.
The idea that God is just so far above this stuff that he Like, whatever you know, he actually does like it when you sing the praise psalms.
That's so good you should say that because just this morning I wrote to a friend and I said, Ringing in my ears is from the psalms, sing praises.
And yeah, I mean, this is throughout the psalms.
And a friend of mine wrote a book about this, about worshipping in spirit and truth.
She's a professional musician and Bible believer, and worshipping in spirit and truth, and she calls it the river of life.
I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rejoice in the Lord, are you righteous, for it becometh well the just to be thankful.
Very good.
That's a good one.
And it's quite interesting because that is the number that the enemy uses, that particular psalm, Psalm 33.
And it's almost as though whoever numbered the psalms chose a particularly good psalm to throw it back in the enemy's face.
Anyway, Christopher, it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you.
Saith Jesus Before The Verb00:07:42
Oh, I just wanted to actually point out one other thing, or rather compliment you on the point you made.
In your essay, you raise objections to a phrase from the King James Bible, which I'd always thought as an absolute classic of the KJV, one of those wonderfully sonorous phrases in which the translators specialized.
And you didn't completely change my view on it, but you did actually give me pause.
And the phrase is sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
As you know, it's from the end of that, Matthew 6.
And you criticize it as the kind of highfaluting, sort of Latinate, incomprehensible for ordinary folk phrases in which these scholars use to kind of distance us from the word of God.
Is that a fair summary of your view on that line?
Yes, I might be a little softer on that line.
Where did you read me?
You wrote an essay about it.
You wrote and you mentioned that.
And I think.
Where did I publish that?
On your website, I think.
Oh, is it on my website?
Right.
Well, there are far worse phrases Exodus 38, verse 4.
But concerning that, sufficient for the day.
What I like to do is try to reproduce the word order of the Greek.
Yeah.
That's what I like to do, and on the KJV, on the title page, it has appointed to be read in churches, in other words, not by the playboy at home, but explained to you by us priests and bishops.
Yeah, yeah.
The reason I think that, um, I still go both ways on that phrase, I can say when I first came upon that phrase, I did not know what it meant at all.
It's you've really got to.
Work hard to understand that it means essentially there's enough bad stuff that goes on in one day without having to worry about the one about tomorrow.
But even though it's kind of all but incomprehensible, at the same time, I can see that to people who would have been familiar with, say, Horace's Odes, as they probably would have been.
They were drawn towards the epigrammatic.
So I imagine that those who are familiar with the great Latin authors like Horace will be able to relish the condensed ideas in those epigrammatic Latin phrases and we're trying to recapture that in English.
So I sort of don't hate them for what they were trying to do.
And I think that that is quite successful once you understand it, but at the same time, It is kind of elitist.
Well, yes, I'm trying to remember the name of the scholar, the William Tyndale scholar, who died a few years ago.
I was wanting to meet him and then he went and died on me.
But was he killed by the enemy?
No, no, he wasn't.
No, he's recent, you know, died a few years ago.
I just can't remember his name, but he raised this how.
So I came across it when I was first doing this translation that, oh, Daniel, that was his surname.
Daniel with an ending in a double L. David, Daniel, perhaps.
And he raised this about it being Latinate.
And so not easy for uneducated people.
I mean, I'll give you a tiny example.
Matthew 23 starts, then Jesus said, That's the order.
Jesus said.
But they put, then saith Jesus.
So they put the verb saith before Jesus.
Why?
The Greek doesn't, and that's just a tiny example, microcosm of what they've done.
But to me, the worst thing is their shipwrecking of all the major themes of the Word of God and their persecution of Christians at the hand of the King.
And so, no, all their false teachings they have vaccinated into the Word of God.
And so I would like to say to you, the word of God has never been translated properly in the English language.
Well, that is a bold statement, and it's a very good way to end the podcast.
And people can tell us, Christopher, where we can read the best so far translation, presumably, it is in your view, of the Bible.
Yeah, well, there are over 5,000 footnotes giving Strong's concordance references.
There are appendices, there's a preface.
And so, when I make a translation that's unexpected, I lay it bare with footnotes.
And so, everybody can go and check.
And a year and a half ago, I did a series of videos, and I kept saying on the videos, please go away and check these.
And one woman was coming back saying, I'm checking everything you're saying, and you're right.
It's true what you say.
It's on my website, keysofthekingdombible.com.
And then I've got a YouTube channel, Keys of the Kingdom, Holy Bible.
Good.
Well, thank you, Christopher.
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That still works.
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Yeah, thank you, Christopher, again.
Thank you, James.
It's been a delight talking to you.
And I hope we can talk again and perhaps even meet at one of those crazy festivals.
Yes, yes, yes, stand in the light.
My first article in the light paper was The Word of God Has Never Been Translated Properly in the English Language.