James chats to Honorary Female Dick - aka top comic Tania Edwards - about how the US and British banking establishment created Hitler, and lots of other fascinating stuff although James can’t remember what because he still has concussion.
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Welcome to the Delling POD with me, James Dellingpole and, as you can tell, by my Christmas not Christmas, really jumper.
I'm going to talk to you about the excitement, the thrill, of my forthcoming Dick and James Christmas special.
It's round about two weeks a bit over two weeks to go before the party starts and I don't want you to be one of those people who misses out on what is undoubtedly one of the highlights of the year.
So many lovely people that you're going to adore, if you don't know them already, are going to be there in the adoring crowds watching me and Dick on stage and also watching the unregistered chickens, of course, beforehand.
And there's going to be some names and faces that you know, Clive De Karl is going to be there with his magical chair, and they're going to be people selling stuff that you want to buy on stools, you know, sort of magical potions, unguants and things like that, and it's going to be fun.
I mean, obviously I'm going to be good, Dick's going to be good, but you really come to these things to meet like-minded folks.
So get your tickets now.
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I didn't mention the date, did I?
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Um, welcome back to the Deling POD.
Honorary dick, Tanya Edwards.
Hello James Tanya, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to jolly me along with your sunny blondness today because i'm I just like.
I've been feeling ill for like it feels like weeks and i'm so bored.
You've got to be very snug in all your gear.
Yeah well, I have to because I I, because I, they've what?
My children have been ill.
One of them's been ill every single week for the last six weeks.
Yeah, but that's what children do they're?
They're plague rats.
I mean, I remember that.
They just actually no I, I say I remember that even now, even now they're in their 20s, they still come back with all it's because the you know, that's what they do get ill and then spread it to you.
If well well i'm if, do we, do we believe in viruses?
No, we don't no, we don't, no.
I saw your brother the other day.
Actually, he came to Ludlow, did he?
He mentioned he was going, but we, we talk, we only really talk on the podcast.
We don't, we don't we, we don't like waiting material, wasting material.
So what will probably happen is the next time we do a James And Dick, if we do one before the Christmas special, we might just do one.
Um, he'll tell me then, but how?
But how was it?
Do you see him in the audience and you just go?
Oh, this is going to really cramp my style now.
Now, Dick's here, or was it good?
No, I saw.
I saw him in the pub afterwards.
He sold a couple of t-shirts for the unregistered chickens and uh, it was really funny because Alistair was driving all the way back that night so we needed to start on time.
But the bar was packed and I quipped to the lady behind the bar, uh, do you need a hand?
And she said yes, please.
So I jumped behind the bar.
Good to know, I still remember how to do something useful and I was serving everyone.
Well done, well done, that's good.
That's that's good when you, when you're doing your your, your sets um, do you, Do you see people in the audience?
I mean, do you sort of spot faces you recognize, or do you try and pretend they're this kind of amorphous mass?
To be honest, it's all about the lighting.
If there's enough lighting, you can't see people.
You want to see the front row, but then you really don't want to see anybody because on stage, you're always attracted to the face of misery.
So wherever the miserable person is in the room, you see them and then you can't see anybody else.
And the more the less light there is, the more likelihood you're going to spot that scowling hater.
So ideally, you don't see everybody.
But it's been quite strange because obviously Alistair and I, we don't know where our audience is.
So some of the shows like Scotland have been fantastic.
And some of them have just have been harder theatres.
So a theatre like Ludlow, it's really fabulous, but the seats are too comfortable.
And it's set up more.
I think that they use it as a cinema as well.
I think discomfort is essential to keep people alert.
Not like church.
Exactly.
You don't want it to be distracting, but you want people to have to sit up and pay attention.
In fact, we've gigged in, Alice wasn't too keen on this.
The Scottish show was in a deconsecrated church.
I don't know if you've heard of this.
They send God out the building and then they use it for other things.
In this case, comedy, seems quite...
Yeah.
I mean, it would be a bit more depressing if they were using it for satanic rites.
I mean, I think a kind of a Christian comedian is not such a bad.
I don't know.
they've changed to flats and stuff I just don't think Scotland's been terrible But then you think about Scotland.
Scotland is a hotbed of Masonic evil.
I mean, you know, Jesse Sabota, that I occasionally talk about Jesse Sabota, the former mother of darkness.
So one of the high priestesses of the satanic organization that runs the world.
Anything like that I don't watch?
No, well, it bothers me.
We can talk about that, but I agree it's quite depressing, but at the same time, it's quite good to know the structure, the structure by which we are governed and how it works and how the sort of the people who run the world, how they interconnect.
I think it's, listen, somebody has to do it.
I look at UK Column and they obviously follow the news and the legislation and they're paying attention to all of these things.
And I agree that someone needs to.
And even in my personal life, I've had two friends that have worked in child protection agencies.
And someone needs to do that too.
And I'm glad that they have the stomach for it.
But it's not something I have the capacity for.
In fact, I'm getting less and less capacity, I've realized, for anything.
I just completely cut off, really.
I know that's probably dreadful, but I just think I sort of hear things through my children.
So we're going to get a kitten when we move.
And my son's asking if we should have it micro-chipped.
And obviously, I'm not going to have any kind of animal micro-chipped.
And I was trying to, and he was explaining to me why you use a micro-chip.
He said it's to protect the cat if they're coming back through the cat flap.
It locks out the cat that's chasing it.
And he's explaining to me how it's for the safety of the cat.
And I'm thinking, how first, we don't even have the cat.
They're already planning on selling off its kittens and arguing about who gets to keep the money.
What I think is extraordinary is that they're hearing this stuff constantly about how this monitoring keeps people and animals safe.
And he's certainly not getting that from me.
So I'm using it as an opportunity to explain freedom, the freedom of the feline.
But it's very strange.
And it's definitely about monitoring.
It's about screen time at school.
So we don't have any screen time ever at home, nothing.
But it's, I look at the children who do watch lots of television and they have their toys are themed according to which they're watching and their behavior.
You can see when a child watches lots of television because they don't react normally.
They're too over the top.
And I say that as a mother of two very over-the-top children, but they're not copying.
They're the helicopters outside.
Yeah.
Monitoring.
That was much worse during lockdown.
It was almost constant.
It was really irritating.
But have you considered if, heaven forbid, but if you were all to die and your cats were left on their own and if they were microchipped, they could go out of their cat flap because they'd need their injection updates from the vet.
They'd need to go and get some whiskers from the shop.
And if they had sort of things in their paws, they could just bleep and carry on.
Yeah, tap and go.
I suppose they survived for the first week because cats tend to eat their human owners first of all, which is why when old ladies die in their fats, yeah, yeah, they often find if they don't get discovered for a few days, what's happened is the cat's sort of eaten their face off and stuff.
It's good grief, like a small chimpanzee that isn't even cross.
God, that's fires.
Cats like that.
They're ruthless.
Well, I won't get a cat flap that self-locks, and that way, hopefully the cat can not eat me if I die.
I haven't really thought these things through.
By the way, I totally agree with you, that rather frightening quality that children have when they've been watching a lot of TV.
You're right.
I mean, we understand it now, but we didn't understand it.
I mean, when I had my children, when they were young, I wasn't awake.
So I hadn't made the connection between TV watching and weird sort of remote behaviour.
Well, it's anything really.
So we don't have many mirrors in the house.
Well, two, I think.
And they're too high for my children to see.
So if they mirrors.
Oh, right.
Oh, really?
We never finished furnishing properly and now we're moving.
But we have this bathtub, which you can see yourself in.
And I noticed that if my children are in the bathroom and they're looking at themselves in the bathtub reflection, they'll be really ridiculous.
They'll act out this whole drama.
And if I ever hear any kind of distress in the bathroom, I just remember that they're looking at themselves in the bathtub actually.
I just think that people are ever so vain.
And the narcissism is getting to such a point now.
I think this is definitely going to affect how everything moves forward.
People are so unused to not getting their own way that they think it's quite right to appeal to any kind of external source to justify their opinion.
People have lost the capacity to just be disagreed with.
I've never been good at being disagreed with, but I've considered that a personality defect, which is not improving with age.
But I've noticed that if people don't get their way now, they just automatically look at some sort of popular thing or as if the government should step in.
I've said this before, but the worst things are the further away they look, they think that the more distant the organization, like the UN, they think that the UN will be able to sort things out.
Anything that they can't fix themselves in their immediate environment, they want to delegate.
It was the UN called it.
Do they know about the UN?
No.
I mean, my father, this is the weirdest thing.
So where my father lives, the council have ruined the pond, which really bothers me.
I've probably mentioned it before, but they decided that the water level of his village pond wasn't safe and they drained it a bit and then basically killed off half the pond.
And now it's allowed to have some more water back in it.
But it's just when something like that happens, it's so irritating to a local person in a small village.
It doesn't seem to demoralize them in terms of external agencies like the council.
They just seem to think that you could go further to your MP, you know, someone that's even more distant and that they might be more useful.
And actually, we just need to get rid of everybody because they're getting worse the further away they go, the worse they are.
And then I never watch anything, James, but something popped up on Twitter the other day because I'm promoting the show Pedent to Vault.
You've got to talk, let me talk about later.
But I was on Twitter.
I think you've got to talk about that.
Yes, we do.
That's why I'm chatting to you.
It's very, very vital.
So this thing's not going to happen a lot.
Or I am the good of conversation.
It's just pure naked commercialism.
No, actually, the project is just out.
Everybody can listen to it.
But the show, the live Christmas show on the 16th of December, that's a live recording.
And that's going to be fun if it's full.
And I've got a lot of people joining in.
So obviously Bob's in it and his wonderful, wonderful father, Tom Senior.
And then loads of musicians that I know are performing.
And all of the people that have had cameos in the six episodes that will be out by then, they all have parts.
So there's going to be this huge Christmas shindig.
And then afterwards, we're all going to stay and have a drink at the bar.
And that's at Backyard Comedy Club where I did your deadling pod years ago.
Yeah.
And everyone's working with you.
Yeah, we had Danny Rampling DJing.
Yes.
That was just a high point.
That was a very special.
It's so funny.
When I was a kid, I used to go clubbing and Danny Rampling would be on the decks.
And I said, oh, it's like, oh, I used to come and listen to you when I was young.
And he said, and now I'm listening to you.
He fortunately didn't say now that you're not young.
And yeah, he was really sound.
So it's at that comedy club.
I know that you've got your horse riding thing, haven't you, the day before?
So you can't come.
Yes, I have.
I have, but let's not talk about that because it might draw attention to it.
Oh, really?
Why?
No, no, no.
It will happen.
The thing.
Annoyingly.
And it was with that chap with the blonde hair.
And it was some sort of space film.
Anyway, they had.
I don't know why I clicked in it.
I clicked in it.
It's about 10 seconds long.
And it was this space film.
And there was a woman in the water and there was a big wave like a wall.
And he was saying, oh, you've got to get back into the spaceship or whatever.
It's so funny because if you don't look at this stuff very often, when you do click on Katie Perry going to the moon or when you do click on a movie, you really can't see the difference in the production values, except that the films have spent more money.
But anyway, he's saying to some woman, oh, you've got to race back before this wave strikes you.
And then this metal machine runs out into the water and scoops this woman up in its metal arms and then runs her back to the spaceship.
And I thought, wow, they've removed all kind of human chivalry or heroism now from films.
They actually have a robot rescuing the fake-faced woman.
It was so bizarre.
It's very, this almost works as a segue into, can I just rant briefly about what annoyed me most today?
So.
So, as you may or may not know, I sometimes read my wife's newspaper to see what shit the norm is are being fed.
And most of the time, I can just go, it's just so stupid.
This is just, you know, you're being sold a lie, you're being brainwashed, whatever.
Isn't it obvious?
Today, I'll show you the, it was this.
It said, I went off grid at the end of my garden to see if I'd cope after Armageddon.
And I thought, hmm, this would be interesting.
How is that the Daily Telegraph selling prepping and what kind of disasters it's talking about?
Because those of us who are awake obviously know that there's all manner of horror coming our way, whether it's digital currencies that you can't, that monitor your behavior and won't allow you to spend them unless you behave correctly and things like cyber attacks and all sorts of things.
So he starts off the piece, the Russians have invaded.
That's the most credible scenario, though we can't rule out a climate catastrophe, deadly pandemic, or indeed nuclear Armageddon.
And I'm thinking every one of those scenarios is a lie.
So nuclear Armageddon, well, nukes don't exist.
Deadly pandemic, well, the vaccines are the pandemic.
Climate catastrophe, bollocks invented by the Rockefellers in the 1940s.
And the Russians have invaded.
First of all, why would the Russians invade?
It's really quite hard invading a country.
I mean, Hitler never managed it.
I think Operation Sealion was never a starter.
I'm not even sure that he even wanted to.
But you see, when you look into the history of the First and Second World Wars, which is what I've been doing recently, you learn that the whole both world wars were started, orchestrated by Anglo-American elites, if you want to call them that, but basically bankers, the deep state, very, very rich people and corrupt politicians and the aristocracy and so on.
I mean, we started the war on Germany both times.
And I've recently been been reading about Hitler was basically the creation of of of these same interests.
So there was a guy called.
Have you heard of Putzi Heifstangle?
I haven't told me that.
No one's heard of Putzi Heifstangle.
Putzi Heifstangle was this, came from an aristocratic German family.
He was educated by private tutors and he was taught the piano from very, he was a very accomplished pianist by the time he was 18 and spent the rest of his life just doing a turn on the piano.
was classically educated in Latin and Latin and Greek.
He then was finished off at Harvard.
And the reason he was finished off at Harvard was because his mother belonged to one of the old families in America, one of the original Puritan families that appeared.
Lots of intermarrying goes on because they're very snobbish and appeared at key moments in American history, whether it's the Daughters of the Revolution or whether it's the Civil War, whether it's they're always sort of sort of the Brahmins of America.
And he was essentially recruited by the intelligence services, by the deep state, to go to Germany and become Hitler's best mate when Hitler was sort of on the make.
Hitler was like a nutcase.
He was not going to get anywhere without backing.
So Putzi Heifstengel was his handler.
So when you know this, it's not a question of, oh, so you think that Churchill was worse than Hitler.
Well, yeah, I do, but it's not so much that.
It's not that Hitler was a good guy.
Hitler was a wrong, but he was the creation.
He was promoted by the Western deep state.
And people operate.
I think anybody that's that moniker is got to be backed by someone.
But I think it's more fundamental.
It's more fundamental than that.
If you look at an extreme example of a whole mass of people going along with one thing, forget the specifics of particular leaders, just generally.
I think that there used to be an understanding of democracy where it was that people had, well, see, I just don't think I'm fundamentally on board with that idea anymore either.
So you have two different interpretations of something, don't you?
Either each individual has their own rights, and I don't mean rights in terms of, oh, I'm owed this and you're owed that.
I mean, we have the scope to fulfill our own duties and responsibilities in our own life without interference or molestation from an external person.
That's all.
And if you think that each person should be equal before the law, that used to be my understanding of democracy, that you couldn't have one person having three votes because he had a bigger piece of land.
Obviously, the way it works out is that one person who has lots of land has, well, or sorry, lots of cash as it is at the moment.
Or sorry, lots of Bitcoin or whatever you want to call it.
But obviously there is discrepancies in the world.
There's discrepancies in height, there's discrepancies in intelligence, there's discrepancies in how much love a person has and how they're going to react in the world.
But you used to have an idea that people should be equal at least before the law.
And now we have a different idea of democracy where it's just, oh, if the majority say so, that's the way it's got to be.
And if the majority therefore says that I should have my freedom or my responsibilities removed, like the lockdown, for example, I wasn't supposed to make my own choices about my own health or my own movement or my own children's education or my own work life.
Nothing was left to anything organic in society anymore.
And I think this is happening even with the way products are marketed now, the way the banking system is obviously working.
People aren't looking at companies that are failing and trying to short those companies.
The whole thing is now being manipulated by algorithms and there's no organic movement.
But more fundamentally, people as a whole seem to genuinely believe that if most people think something, it should be done.
And until we can turn that around so that they think that there's a certain privileged space that each person should be able to live their life in, if they genuinely think that it's just about a mass of people insisting on a certain way, then none of us have got any sort of, well, none of us have a future.
Because if at any stage the majority can be persuaded to act in a certain way and thinks it's their right or their obligation to then impinge on my movement and my capacity to think and my speech and the way I'm behaving, then we're basically splitting society into the people that are perpetrating the new fad and the people that are trying to resist it.
There is no that I can't see any way forward while we have this idea of how things should go.
And then once you have the idea that you just need a mass of people, it doesn't really matter what they're doing, does it?
It doesn't matter if they're all shouting and screaming or all saluting the same person or hiling the same person.
If anybody has in their mind the idea that it is to them to impose their wishes on a person that hasn't transgressed the general moral code in any way, then it's just going to be an argument about how much we're allowed to interfere with each other.
It's a bit like, am I making sense?
No.
You look so confused.
You've kind of lost me.
Let me make my point and then you can either disagree with it, well, because you can't disagree with it because it's bloody right.
But to your point about how democracy works and how you imagine democracy ought to work and stuff.
Yeah, sure, we all instinctively feel that we want to be left alone and to get on with our lives with minimal interference from other people.
And that seems fair.
The point I was making was a slightly different one, which is that what's happening now is just a replay of what happened in the early 20th century and again in the 1930s,
that we are being steered towards war through a brainwashing process and that the same forces that literally invented Hitler, made him, well, almost literally, that certainly created Hitler and made him possible are now steering us towards yet another war.
So this article that I found so annoying in the Telegraph is part of this softening up process.
So it poses as a, oh yes, a jolly piece about prepping.
And this guy spent 36 hours following, or 48 hours, following the, 72 hours in fact, following the Swedish manual called In Case of Crisis or War, Om Kriisen Ella, Kriget Komma, apparently a Swedish booklet that they've all been issued in Sweden.
But why is the Swedish government issuing this booklet to the populace?
It is doing so in order to sow the seeds in their idea that war with Russia is an inevitability.
It's going to happen, so they may as well prepare for it.
And here's a jolly piece in the telegraph using the medium of humor and colour writing to sow the same seeds.
So it doesn't matter what kind of clever people like us who ignore all this bollocks thing.
This is what, you know, not everyone reads the papers anymore anyway.
But the people who do read the papers are being exposed to.
I'll give you another example.
I'll give you another example, which is it's the same thing.
I was out in a restaurant with a friend.
And suddenly the whole restaurant started, an alarm went off from every single table in the restaurant.
Everybody's phone was doing an alarm, apart from mine, because I disabled it.
And it was the government sending out an emergency alarm test.
And it came through everybody's mobile simultaneously.
And this Australian guy was like, oh my God, this scared the hell out of me.
And this Australian guy, when he said how frightened he was, he was probably speaking for everybody in the whole restaurant who had all thought something terrible had happened, like a siren going off.
So we are all being prepared for an emergency.
And you're right in that it doesn't matter if it's a nuclear thing or an invasion or a pandemic.
We are all being prepared for this idea of an emergency and this idea that we need a character to rally around to save us.
But I was just trying to go back even further than that and say, we are at a stage more generally.
And I think that I'm always looking to the small things instead of to the big things.
When you have the war mentality is an interesting one, and this is why they applied it to the war on terror.
And this is why they applied it to the war on COVID.
The war mentality is one of total conscription.
So the moment you invoke war, you're all supposed to agree with one idea.
The pacifist is absolutely dead because nobody agrees anymore that you shouldn't join in.
And that's what I'm saying when because nobody now has any respect for an individual who says, I don't want to be conscripted, thank you, to your pandemic or to your invasion or to your idea of the world melting or heating up or freezing.
I read the other day that we're freezing now.
It's an ice age instead of a can confirm.
Your fault.
But I think that it, I'm not even sure how we on our side are going to manage if we expect anybody at all to help us.
And I don't mean now these ridiculous figures that come in and out of the social scene like Russell Brown and talking about the I just I'm not sure that anybody has the facility to even forgetting the practical side of things to even support their own opinion.
I think that people are desperately anxious now for someone somewhere to agree with them.
And I've really seen this going around with Alistair that obviously it's a great relief when you meet like-minded people and it's really because you no longer feel so isolated.
But we are going to be the people that don't want to participate in the big thing are going to be on their own and they're going to have to compromise with people that they disagree with.
They're not going to be able to persuade everybody.
Like I thought at the beginning of the COVID nonsense that all I had to do, Tiny Redwards, was speak out, tell the truth and then everybody would realize that they were behaving insanely.
It never worked out like that.
All of the people that participated in that and actively sold it have never been friends with me again.
I've maintained all my friendships from my childhood.
I've not lost my personal friends or people that are close to me.
But I'm talking about your colleagues or your industry.
And when I do shows that aren't with me and Alistair, when I just do general shows, I talk to all of these different people because I'm curious about what's going on.
And I've noticed that mostly they all complied, that lots of people are trying to leave.
So, people that are awake to some stuff, they just see that the society is going down the loo.
They don't like the state, they don't like the way things are going, but they all took the vaccine to go on holiday or for work.
They all participated in some element of what's happening and they don't see any means of resistance.
They only see where can I escape to.
So, I'm not sure that we're in a very good place.
I had the misfortune of someone putting on the football.
What I just agree with you, we're not in a very good place.
We're really not.
Yeah, tell me about the football.
I want to hear about that.
Someone put the football on.
Yeah, someone put this football commentary on next to me.
And that's another irritating thing.
So, people, if you look who are on the trains now, everybody's watching something on their telephones.
They're watching movies or television on their phones.
But now they have no shame if they don't have headphones about just playing it.
So, I was on the bus next to this girl who was listening to her Bollywood movie.
And I said, Excuse me, I don't want to listen to that.
And then I was on another train, and someone was listening to their stuff.
They're completely unembarrassed.
I saw some parents and they had their BBC nonsense playing for their baby on a big iPad.
And they looked around as if everyone was supposed to suffer this crap as if it was a normal thing.
So, obviously, if a child cries or has a tantrum, everybody around has to have some patience because we've all been there.
But it was as if this loud, horrible, ghastly nonsense that this child was being forced to watch on their iPad, it was as if that was part of the normal generic thing that children do.
You know, you're just supposed to excuse it as if they were crying or as if they were hungry.
But I don't want to listen to their stupid BBC stuff.
I don't think that they should be listening to it either.
But anyway, so this football thing, I was listening to it.
Did you speak out?
I do have someone sitting directly next to me, or I leave the carriage, James.
It's such a point now.
That's what I was saying.
Someone cracked the lights on the car.
I leave the carriage.
It's cowardly, isn't it?
Well, someone crapped their pants on there.
Someone crapped themselves on the underground.
And they were sitting there in their own shit.
And the smell was absolutely disgusting.
And my children and I removed at the next stop into a different carriage.
But some people didn't even change carriage.
They just would, they were too lazy to go.
Yeah, it was definitely something.
There was definitely something going on there.
It wasn't.
It wasn't an accidental just follow through.
It was more than that.
No, I'm not just awful.
But this football thing.
So I'm listening to this commentary.
And the guy's saying, How this is a terrible injustice, a terrible injustice has been done on the pitch.
It's a flagrant injustice.
And then he goes on to say, but you just have to accept it because that's the way the decision went.
And I was listening to this and I thought, wow, this is so much cleverer than I realized.
You have millions of people every single day, and the injustice is apparently getting more flagrant.
And I was listening to this thinking, every week then, people are being taught subliminally to cheer and chant and get emotionally excited.
And then when they're most vulnerable emotionally and most susceptible to hearing nonsense, they're hearing, oh, it's absolutely dreadful and it obviously shouldn't happen and it broke all the rules, but we have to accept it.
And it's this sort of mass acceptance that no one should just stand on their own and say, no, I'm not going to accept it, actually.
I don't think that there's anything now that people won't accept for an easy life because they're just hoping always that it's going to move on.
And the other terrible thing, apart from accepting absolutely anything that's put to you, is this complete misunderstanding of the word progress.
So anything that people do not understand or do not like, they now say, but that's progress.
And if you talk to any taxi driver, they can complain about the roads and they can complain about the traffic lights and they know that the system has been manipulated to make their life harder.
They know they're not supposed to drive.
They're now just declining to drive between certain hours of the day.
But if you go any further in the conversation and they have already gone in their own mind, they immediately switch off and say, well, you know, it's progress.
Global warming is a massive con.
There is no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem, that it's going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it.
It's a non-existent problem.
But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
Well, I've just brought out the revised edition of my 2012 classic book, Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land.
It's a shocking story.
I wrote it, as I say, in 2011, actually, the first edition came out.
And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
The era when the people behind the climate change scam got caught red-handed tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen Climategate.
So I give you the background to the skull juggery that went on in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were informing us.
We've got to act now.
I rumbled their scam.
I then asked the question, okay, if it is a scam, who's doing this and why?
It's a good story.
I've kept the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
I think it still stands out.
I think it's a good read.
Obviously, I'm biased, but I'd recommend it.
You can buy it from jamesdellingpole.co.uk forward slash shop.
You'll probably find that way.
Just go to my website and look for it, jamesdellingpole.co.uk.
And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring around all those people who are still persuaded that, oh, it's a disaster.
We must amend our ways and appease the gods, appease Mother Guy.
No, we don't.
It's a scam.
But if you go any further in the conversation and they have already gone in their own mind, they immediately switch off and say, well, you know, it's progress.
And I get that in my sauna conversations.
I've had this very conversation only in the last week where we talk about how shit everything's getting.
And then some bright spark says, yeah, but you know, that's progress.
As if somehow makes it up, progress makes everything better.
Suddenly, it makes sense.
And I really think that that's the two fundamental things I would say is firstly, there is no progress in terms of a movement towards something, but it's not.
We should stop using the word progress.
And it's very clever how they screwed the elderly by making them look stupid.
So people used to listen to the elderly because they had more experience and they had good stories and there was a natural respect for them.
And the elderly have been persuaded to call themselves stupid.
They now say they can't understand anything technological.
They now ascribe stupidity to themselves, as if they're missing out, as if they haven't grasped the technology, as if they're not keeping up with the times, as if they can't keep up with the progress.
And because they can't, they don't realize that they're not missing out on anything.
I mean, my mother is a prime example.
She hasn't quite grasped everything.
She just uses all of the mechanisms at once.
You know, if she sends me a text message, it will be to tell me that she sent me the same text message on WhatsApp and she'll have emailed it to me at the same time.
She seems to think that all of these things are just to have a mass attack.
It's like a mini version of your Telegraph article.
How is she going to invade my space by WhatsApp, email, telephone, and text?
But they don't understand that they have superior knowledge or that they had more independence or that they had more of their own thoughts.
And they're completely infatuated with numbers.
They think that anytime they hear, oh, two million people watched this or one million people saw that, and they love all of these stories about how so-and-so came up from nothing and made it in Hollywood.
You know, they just all of they have a totally simple idea in their minds about how society should be, how society is right, because they've obviously had a nice life.
You know, it's a strange mix of generations.
You've got the older generation have had a nice time and they're at the end of their lives and they want to think that everything that they've lived through has been good and they want to imagine that they're bestowing a better future on their grandchildren.
So anything that they don't understand or disagree with, they think it's just because they haven't grasped it or because they haven't managed to keep up with the program.
And it's just, and then the children are not being encouraged to think for themselves in any way.
They're just being tested constantly.
They're supposed to be.
Actually, this is a depressing chat, James.
It's worse than I'm talking about.
it's going to be because we occasionally one has to have a depressing, I was just thinking about, have I, did I, did I do the, when I'm 64, um, theory on you the other day?
No, let's hear it.
Well, you know, the Beatles, presumably, like everyone else, you absolutely hate that song, When I'm 64.
Well, I don't think anyone likes that particular song.
No, exactly.
Nobody likes that song.
Why is it?
Okay, so The Beatles are supposed to be this amazing band that produces all these lovely hits.
Why would a band that was supposedly as good as the Beatles are supposed to be have written a song as twee and sort of cloyingly whimsical and horrible, jarring as When I'm 64, which everyone hates.
The reason is that it was written for that purpose.
It was written by Theodore Adorno.
He wrote a lot of the Beatles stuff.
The Beatles didn't write their own stuff.
You know, they had a team writing in this sort of acerbic style of John Lennon.
They had a team writing in the sort of twee, whimsical style of Paul McCartney.
Theodore Adorno, who was one of the...
I'll write stuff in a minute, James, and then I'll cry.
Sorry?
You'll tell me that Katie Cherry doesn't write her stuff in a minute, and then I'll cry.
I would never say that.
She's obviously her own woman.
She was never controlled.
So Theodore Adorno was one of the Frankfurt School of Marxists, and he professed to hate the Beatles when, of course, he basically wrote their lyrics.
And When I'm 64 is designed to create a divide between the young and the old, to position the old as hateful.
I mean, 64, it's not that old.
i'm almost 64 and you've got this this people that in the song that uh this imaginary couple they hit 64 and they and and their their life is over and and and they they they've got these horrible horrible grandchildren called vera chuck and dave them I mean, I can't imagine more awful names than Vera, Chuck and Dave.
Sorry if you're called Vera, Chuck and Dave.
So that song was written as a weapon, like so many of the Beatles songs were.
I mean, some of them serve the function of encouraging girls to leave home from their parents.
Some of them encouraged drug taking and LSD and whatever.
But that song was designed.
Everyone could hate it and everyone could hate old people.
Anyway, that's my When I'm 64 theory.
Well, I'm not going to disagree with it.
I think about it when I was little.
Well, everyone used to listen to Madonna, and I was thinking about, because God almighty, have you seen her face?
Oh.
Yikes.
And it's monstrous.
It's absolutely monstrous.
Talk about getting the face you deserve.
She is a monster.
Perhaps she always was a man.
I don't know.
There's something awful there, isn't there?
Well, there are some women at my school gates that because they've gone over to the old stuff.
But yeah, I was just thinking about her lyrics.
Having all of those children singing along to being touched for the very first time and all of these completely inappropriate things and thinking that she was somehow modern and we were making progress because she was having sex with a cross.
It's actually so vile, and it's been going on for so long, and now it's just worse.
It's not...
Yes.
By the way, on that, I want you to carry on with this point about this round against Madonna, but...
But the word progress, I think it's not a word that we can reclaim.
I think it was never a good word.
It was designed by the enemy as a weapon to be used against us.
It was essentially the argument for another evil word, the Enlightenment.
We were getting rid of all that sort of medieval superstition and we were progressing towards a sort of a better future driven by scientists and experts and away from these superstitious clerics who'd held us in thrall for so long.
So progress was always a loaded term.
It was always double-edged.
It was sold to us as a good thing, but it was always, always evil.
That's interesting too.
So there's two different things.
One, I just genuinely think that people don't know how to do anything anymore.
And we know how to be our own checkout person or whatever, but we don't know how to...
Everything now in London, I don't know how it is where you are, but, you know, everything is either by delivery or by tapping.
Every supermarket, certainly places like Tesco's, they're designed like little sheep pens.
You have people on the underground standing by a lift and they're the lift operator and they basically just stand there shouting at normal people who are quite able to walk into a lift.
So you are creating this situation where some people are behaving like prison guards.
If you look at the self-checkout aisle, you're just being moved along by someone who doesn't have anything that's obviously a waste of their time to stand there and just say, move along, there's one here, there's one free, as if everybody's getting their porridge at the prison canteen.
And then you can't get narrative of the situation.
Have you ever had that experience at the airport?
This is analogous.
When you're at the airport and you know those sort of ropes that they, those plastic barriers that sort of make you go through a maze.
And sometimes there's nobody in front.
So you go underneath the things instead of going zigzag, zigzag just to get to the end of the queue.
And I've seen, I've experienced several times I've done this and been bollocked by some functionary for doing so, for not going through the rat rate, the rat maze.
Have you ever had that?
I literally, I literally saw it the other day.
It's always a female functionary.
Well, we went to, I saw a male one.
We went to, they're all ghastly.
We went to Ireland to do a show at the Dunery Comedy Festival and I obviously flew and swim.
And it was just like that.
But with this bloke telling, you know, one guy telling you not to go under the ropes, another guy shouting at you about how to put your stuff into the baskets.
But it was such a, it was like watching a prison population in a movie where each bit shuts after them.
This happened even when I came back from Italy.
The Italians were going through their passport control.
They had just been through passport control.
They took one step forward and the gates closed either side of them and they were just standing there completely confused, being scanned up and down their body, having their faces scanned, having to put their fingerprints in.
And anyone that didn't understand it was being barked at by someone in the next box saying fingers, you know, blah, So we are, while we're apparently going around our daily business and we don't seem to be completely aware of what's happening, we are absolutely becoming used to this idea of being looked at.
They have these weird new cameras at the airport, which are little square robot cameras with slits for eyes and a slip for a mouth, filming your face as you're going through.
This technology, even the fact that it's so superfluous and so expensive and so unnecessary, we should be looking at it thinking, this is a waste of our money.
If this wasn't here, our flights would be cheaper or we would be moving forward faster.
But instead, everybody is accepting the fact that they're being scanned in all of these different ways so that they can be identified from any angle.
Because what they've done is they've spotted our weakness.
One of our extreme vulnerabilities is our desire to get a bit of sun, to travel occasionally.
We want it so much that we were prepared to have, some of us anyway, to have experimental drugs injected into us with potentially life-threatening consequences.
We did that in order to be able to go on holiday.
And you're right.
The indignities you suffer at the airport, because you know that this is a sort of passage, you've got a rite of passage, you've got to go through this ordeal, but you know at the other side, you've got the Mediterranean or you've got Bali or whatever, and it's all going to be okay on the other side.
So you put up with it, and they know this.
So they've got this window in which they can brutalize you and condition you, that awful Israeli design machine where you have to stand like this with your hands in a, and they can see you, they can see through everything.
It's humiliating, it's degrading, it's dangerous, it bombards you with nasty x-rays or whatever.
And you tolerate it all because.
And I'm trying to explain that that is now creeping into our actual society.
So that was something to escape because psychologically, it's not just that I love the sun and I love Italian architecture and I like to feel it.
It's not even just that.
You do.
It's.
I do.
I really like going away.
But we've also been told that if you haven't been anywhere, if you haven't wasted your time in Thailand, or if you haven't, you know, been on Bondi Beach, that somehow you're an incomplete person.
From a very young age, we're encouraged to believe that life should be one exciting anecdote and that it doesn't really matter how you comport yourself within that anecdote.
It just matters that you have a story to tell.
And part of having a story to tell, even if you're the most tedious person on earth, is telling somebody that you've been to a beach somewhere.
So that's one thing is that we're actually encouraged to think that that's something noble when it's obviously not.
But separate to that, this thing that you're talking about in the airport is creeping into the very basic things.
If I just want to buy some tomatoes, I have to go through these same ridiculous rituals.
I have to, to get out of Sainsbury's now, you have to be able to tap your receipt.
So you're treated in every I don't go to Sainsbury's normally, but I was looking for a pumpkin and I didn't have the receipt, so I couldn't get through this gate.
So what I'm trying to say is that now you have to go through these bizarre things just to get into a lift, just to get your shopping.
You have to have some idiot shout at you or instruct you to do something, but never help you.
If you ever ask for any help, people don't even stop chatting to help you.
They don't even get off their telephones.
Security guards are now on their phones.
And I went somewhere really, where was I the other day?
Somewhere expensive.
And somewhere, I think I can't remember what I was doing.
I was looking for, I was in Harrods, and it's always been Naff and Tacky Harris, but sometimes it's good for things.
Anyway, I was in there, and even the security, even the people, I was walking past the Chanel counter, and even the people at the Chanel counter are looking at their mobiles.
There's no connection anymore between the and I do think if I were in charge of those counters, I would be banning my women from doing that.
That's so wrong.
But it's also really bizarre because it means that nobody is connected to their immediate environment.
They're all looking at something completely separate.
What are you going to do, James?
You're in the countryside, but I'm used to so many of these things.
Well, you see, that's the thing.
So, living in the country, you definitely escape a lot.
So, most of my day comprises things like going for a walk with the dog, cooking food, just at the occasion where I wonder who my next podcast is going to be, but mainly, going to my vegetable garden, wondering when I'm going to go hunting next, when I'm going to be, but things that I'm free of the evil clause of the powers that be.
But they get you on the choke point.
So, they get you, for example, when you need to make a trip in your car, or even tiny things like when you want some building work done and you find that the regulations have become much more onerous since last time.
So, there's more money you have to spend on needless things.
Or, I'll tell you the other annoying, really annoying.
The other day, we got this sort of journal freebie to this lovely hotel in Snowdonia.
It was an old fishing lodge, which had been done up as a hotel.
All nice to look at and comfortable, good food, etc.
And we got to the bedroom and fancy sort of four-poster-ish beds, or like nice, nicely done up rooms.
And directly above the bed was this sprinkler system, which went blink, blink, blink, blink, a red light all through the night.
And you're thinking, your system of health and safety, of marketing products for the DuPont family, which is basically profits from anything made from white extruded plastic.
All these electronics, all the Wi-Fi and stuff, this is going to completely destroy any comfort that your guests might have.
You're going to ruin their night's sleep, unless they bought an eye mask, which I do routinely now, but I don't like having to wear an eye mask.
So only, increasingly, only in your own country house can you escape from this shit.
It's everywhere, every which way they get you.
Well, I was in, so two of these things are interesting.
Every single hotel I've been in on this tour has had a huge television screen covering up one wall.
And when I was in Southampton today, awful place, Southampton, I was in the wrong place.
I was supposed to be in Tottenham.
I called up Alison.
I said, no one knows where this venue is, Alis.
So they're all saying I should be in Tottenham.
He said, yeah, you should be.
That's where I am.
Anyway, but Totten is near Southampton.
But I spent a long time walking around Southampton looking for the nice bit.
Never found it.
And they have everything there as a screen.
On every building, they have a screen flashing.
Two shots for one on a Saturday.
This and that, blah, blah, blah.
But everything is, it's the kind of place that would really benefit from a power cut.
And I was looking at that thinking, it's just awful.
It's so ugly.
You can't escape the ugliness.
Even in Glasgow, they're making parts of it ugly.
And that's very difficult because Glasgow is an absolutely beautiful city.
But on your thing on sprinklers, I knew a chap who invested in some properties and he's a big entrepreneur.
And he invested specifically in some properties that were excluded by nature, the fact that they were Victorian properties.
They were excluded from the council's demands to have a sprinkler system.
So that obviously makes a big difference because to install a sprinkler system in one of these buildings would be about £30,000.
But you could buy these properties knowing that you don't have to have that expense.
And you didn't have to have that expense because the properties are so old that it would have been inappropriate to have the sprinkler system inside of the project.
This place should not have had a sprinkler system.
I wonder whether it's Welsh councils, because that could be, they could be particularly, Wales and Scotland are particularly zealous, aren't they, in enforcing unnecessary regulations.
So this...
So this man, he bought these properties and he was going to invest in the area.
So he had, in order to buy these properties, part of it was that he was going to regenerate the area, yada yada yada, by investing in the local sports facilities, the local this, the local that.
Anyway, he buys these properties and they're all flats above shops that are in total disrepair.
Once he purchases them, the council says that he has to install the sprinkler system.
Well, obviously, it was both architecturally impossible, but financially impossible to regenerate these properties and put in these sprinkler systems.
And he says to them, well, you can't legally do this because it's not legal.
This is not the regulation.
Blah, And the council said to him, yes, you're quite correct.
And if you sue us, you'll win.
But it's going to take you at least three or four years to get that conclusion.
In other words, they knew that they were screwing him.
And they just said, that's what we're going to do.
And then he had to sell all of those properties.
And the last time he looked at that area, it had become sort of that street has become sort of, there'd been some big raid because it's become a drug, you know, a drug pit because it never was regenerated and no one did invest in it or anyone that did invest was deliberately driven out.
So they don't actually want places to be improved and for people to be thriving.
I mean, it should be quite obvious that no one wants anyone to be thriving, but it's it's um that's interesting.
Did you, did you read um Miri A.F.'s recent piece about um, where was it?
Where she lives um, somewhere up north Doncaster, was it?
Um so um anyway, the the the point about about it was that that she noticed too.
This this this, this is deliberate.
This policy, it is designed to um to destroy the councils, actively conspiring to ruin um inner cities, to to make them uninhabitable, so to to to create that kind of urban degradation which eventually leads for The government to have to have to step in to create more control mechanisms and and subdue the populace further.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not very subtle anymore, it seems quite apparent.
I mean, this taxi driver in Glasgow is getting so cross because everywhere was road works that no one ever works on.
It was just to create.
And it's hilarious for me obviously, because I live in London, so what he considers to be congestion I consider to be countryside this.
So this sort of helpless um frustration at at your local council is is ubiquitous, but I they have um so many different people around here doing all sorts of things.
One of my friends he he was fined for because they keep changing the direction of the traffic and he was fined for turning the correct way down a road that they've since changed the direction of but hadn't put up a new sign.
So he was able to appeal it because when they sent him the photograph, he could show that the new sign wasn't there and on this particular date.
But it's.
It's this kind of um, really insidious demoralization where people feel that they can't get through to anybody.
If you, if you call anybody up, you have to now listen to three minutes explaining why you shouldn't abuse their stuff and then, by the end of this three minutes, you're told that number 28 in the queue I, I honestly James, i'm going to get arrested for swearing at a computer.
I, that's going to be my demise.
It's going to be me telling a camera to f off.
It's, it's not going to be anything human and more often than not, before you get to the, get to the person uh, if there is a real person, it it hangs up on you by itself and I think we can not use it where possible.
It's like the AI stuff.
Everybody's using this AI rubbish to to make things they they shouldn't.
Um, I know that you need some tools to share your podcast, for Example.
But this, I was thinking even about the voicemail.
I think that the voices that we're listening to at the moment, they're not real.
Or, or they're really annoying.
So it's either something fake.
So on everywhere, you have to listen to something that's obviously a fake voice telling you what to do, which is infuriating.
And when you're calling a bank or calling this or that, it tells you, I am an AI operated machine and I can identify your numbers.
So I don't know how you escape that.
You can't.
And then at the same time, they're giving absolute numbskulls loudspeakers on the platform so that they can bark into these megaphones.
Stand back from the yellow line.
And it's just this absurd corruption of what's necessary or what is even manners.
I mean, these people that are shouting at you to be near the yellow line, what are they doing with their lives?
Do they feel important in that moment?
I actually, do you know what?
I was quite in quite a good mood earlier, James.
I know.
Is this the most depressing podcast we've ever done?
I think it might be.
There's sort of a pointless irritation at things.
I'm just not sure how.
Well, it's even the weather, isn't it?
There's no.
Well, it's not real.
I mean, it's all generated by them.
So I'm just thinking, even if you, even if you move to the countryside and you grow your patch, how can people come to see you if all of the trains are cancelled?
And it's not typical now to ride a horse up the M M1, is it?
And how can you grow stuff if the weather's being designed by people to stop you growing things?
It's everywhere.
Yeah.
And of course, it's the weather control which makes you want to go abroad.
That's part of the thing.
So they get you.
So to increase your desire to go through this awful bottleneck where you are tortured and punished and that, etc., they generate the bad weather so that you want to go abroad and then you have to do this thing that they want you to do just so you can suffer and not want to go abroad.
It's brilliant.
I mean, they're brilliant at their job.
But have you not noticed as well, the thing that, well, certainly what I like, I appreciate that some people would rather have an English breakfast in, you know, in some shady part of Ibiza.
But I have found most people, especially if you look at those awful floating toilets, what do you call them?
The, not the fairies.
What are those awful cruise ships?
So there are certain parts of Italy where these huge ships come in.
They sort of offload all of their passengers.
They walk around these small towns that hate them because there are too many people for Cinque Terre or wherever.
Then they get back onto their ships and float off to the next small place.
And it's obviously environmentally unfriendly.
I was talking to a comedian who was saying, oh, he'd been on some cruise to perform, but they've and I said those ships are vile.
And he said, oh, but it's environmentally offset.
As if that's what I was talking about.
That's not what I'm talking about.
And I said to him, well, you can't say that a 7,000 person ship is environmentally friendly because it's quite obviously unfriendly to any environment that it's in.
When you think of something environmentally friendly, you should think of something that suits the environment it's in.
So it can't possibly be environmentally friendly, however many trees they're not planting.
But that's not really the point.
The point was that I can't remember.
I'm so cross suddenly.
What was I talking about?
Well, you're talking about cruise ships and you're talking about this person.
Reason people want to go and look at these little towns and stuff is because when they go to these picturesque villages they can see what they perceive to be an authentic culture in a place with people that have lived there for generations of their family, that if you talk to any of those locals, they tell you how the the vines were grown on the cliffs how who, who developed what, where they're really proud of where they're from.
So the most bizarre thing is that we're leaving the places where we feel atomized and disconnected to go and glance at a place that we think is still intact, and even that isn't good, because we're disrupting that place as well by completely compromising their entire ecosystem with our tourist money and our.
Anyway, do you know what?
Oh, talking about weather, I wanted sorry, Karen Beads Ecclesiastical Um History Of England.
Have you read Bead?
I haven't finished it actually, but no, it's really.
But he's always talking about the, the lovely weather.
So I I do wonder why our weather's always so horrid, is it?
Is it a good read Bead's ecclesiastical history?
As far as i've got, it's very good.
Um, have I recommend you Everyday Sense Saints, or maybe you recommend it to me once and I finally got around to reading it.
I've got the Golden Everyday Saints.
You haven't got Everyday Saints I get.
It's just fantastic.
Yeah, it's just like I.
I read it in the bath.
I have to read it in in small doses.
I was telling my children about um the saints, one of the I think it was saint Francis Of Assisi.
They thought it was such a thrilling story.
They couldn't believe that it was true and I thought this is fascinating because i'm just reading them the wrong stuff.
We read um uh Jk Rowling's Christmas Pig, which was fantastic, and then they wanted to read the Harry Potter, and I don't know if you're familiar with Harry Potter, but the first three books are obviously books for children, and then from book four to seven, it's quite clearly not books for children, but by then your children are completely hooked.
Now obviously, i'm reading all of these tomes aloud to them so I can edit out some of the words as I go.
So for every 15 times that she says torture, I can say torture once, or when someone's swinging from their feet over a table with their eyes popping out their head.
I can, I can modify that slightly, but I was thinking some of these children are reading these books on their own that were for children only a book ago and are now about setting, you know, killing curses on people.
And then i'm i'm reading Um All The The World, you know the Going Solo and stuff, and he talks about the hypocrisy of the, of the um, the priest of his school who was torturing these children and then preaching about Christ, and how this hypocrisy threw him away from the church.
So it's, it's interesting because I think, especially now that we're turning well, i'm certainly um believe in God and I didn't before, but i'm i'm not pretending to myself that people were universally better.
I think that all people in any kind of position of power abuse it to some extent.
Burckhardt says he's trying to explain why um, there's suffering and he says that, or why the good don't profit from being good and the evil and the wicked profit from being evil and wicked.
And he said, well, it has to be that way, because imagine if you profited from being good.
Everyone would pretend to be good and the hypocrisy would be so intolerable you wouldn't be able to live.
In other words, the fact that you have to be good for its own sake and not because it's going to get you a fast car, is enables you to sort of discern who's sincere and who is insincere.
Um, that there's a positive idea.
Who's well?
That's nice.
Who is he?
He wrote this fantastic book that I can't remember the title of, and it this one line had such an impact on me I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind if um, things were a little less.
I mean, there's this uh poster at the moment for that awful, ghastly hideous woman, Jacinda Arden, saying how her new book is going to restore your faith in pathetics.
I'm sure it will.
He's a bloke, by the way.
Well, he's been very airbrushed in this poster.
But the idea that anybody is actually, anybody is wasting their time reading this nonsense, thinking, oh yeah, what a sound woman she is.
And she's really changed things.
But I do, I don't know.
I think that evil is definitely profiting excessively at the moment.
And I'm not really convinced that any of us have the tools to independently.
Yes, you need to.
I can't see anybody creating a network of, I don't know, even making stuff that's original or growing stuff that tastes good themselves or even owning a pet.
You seem to want to.
Everybody's frightened of everything.
Everybody's frightened of death.
Everyone's frightened of life.
Everyone's frightened of getting into trouble.
Everyone's frightened of not being popular.
Everyone's worried.
When you're feeling like this, you need to read Psalm 73 because it's got some really, it's very consoling.
It starts off, the author of the psalm is complaining about the fact that I do also see the ungodly in such prosperity.
Um...
For they come in no misfortune like other folk, neither are they plagued like other men.
And he thinks, well, maybe I should join them.
Maybe I should be one of these people.
And then he goes into the sanctuary of God and it is explained to him.
Oh, how suddenly do they consume, perish and come to a fearful end.
So it's all right.
They're not going to be enjoying the fruits of their evil forever.
So it's okay.
So they're not all okay.
They're not free, are they?
If you really think that you have to do, I told you about this woman who was very successful, but she'd been told by another person that the trick was to never touch an avocado stone.
And she used to wear the, you know, the eye.
And they were all obsessed with this stuff.
And they believed that their success was contingent on these rituals that obviously weren't noble or good or holy rituals.
But they, now, I think she would have been successful even if she did touch an avocado stone.
But she didn't.
So she wasn't free in her mind.
And I'm reading this fascinating book by a guy called Mark.
Sorry, how does it work?
I mean, I see.
Is this a common thing?
I've got no idea.
I just, it's more that all of these things that they were doing, you know, the one eye and blah, blah, blah.
If you have to do those things to think that that's how you're achieving something, you're not achieving it from your hard work.
And by the way, they were achieving it from hard work.
They were achieving it by being really committed and single-minded.
But in their minds, they were succeeding because they were doing all of this ritualistic nonsense.
But I'm reading this.
Also, it's not just they also have to either sacrifice their either have to kill their children or bring them up transgender.
That's natural.
At the top levels.
Yeah, well, I'm talking pretty low down.
I mean, higher than me, but not high.
You're talking lower tier.
Yes.
But I'm reading this book by Maurice Samuel, who was a czarianist, I believe.
Fascinating guy, very interestingly written book.
And it's called You Gentiles, and he's trying to describe the different...
I don't know, I haven't got to anything controversial yet.
So if anyway, so the title already is quite is quite, I mean, imagine somebody read a book called You Jews.
Well, it's not, it's not called it you go, has he?
So he's trying to explain what he's trying to explain what he considers fundamentally different approaches to life between a Jew and a Gentile.
And I think these kind of writers are so interesting.
It's why I read Joseph Demaestra or why I read Cortez, because if you're very, so obviously Demaestra and Cortez were Catholics, coming from slightly different angles, but very, very, very entrenched opinions.
But when you read these unfiltered viewpoints that are written honestly, it is very insightful aside from anything else because you notice things about entire cultures that you didn't notice yourself.
And I'm talking now myself as a Gentile.
I'm reading his book and he's talking about how all of our wonderful Western civilization is based on, he considers it to be pantheistic.
He says that even in our celebration of the Trinity, our emphasis is on the three and not on the Jewish monotheistic God.
But he talks about how only people like the Greeks who celebrated all of these different gods and sort of pitched themselves against each other or how a people that actually respects Plato's Republic, which is so trite that in his ideal utopia, sorry, in his utopia, he even has a censor and he's talking about how you train children for the army.
And then he has these wonderful quotes from the Old Testament about achieving a world where there is no more war.
But he's saying that we consider in our Western tradition about doing the right thing instead of doing right.
And he considers that a Jew is never not a Jew.
They're always either a bad Jew or a good Jew, but they're not like us who celebrate sport and everything is about doing the right thing.
And everything's about fair play and everything's about nothing's about abject submission to an almighty God.
And whatever you think of this book, it is true in many ways that this is how we consider.
So he talks about murder.
He doesn't call it, he talks about how if you have to take a life, the way we look at it is there are these rules that we impose so that if we have to take a life, as long as we did it correctly, it's sort of all right.
Whereas for the Jewish man, murder is always murder.
And it's always a bad thing that you, if you're in that situation, you have to defend yourself.
It's a shame that you had to do it, but it's not to do with our regard of it, where you can do it properly.
You can have joyful war and joyful sport and joyful this.
How does he explain Mossad then?
Well, he doesn't because he was writing in 1924.
But I think the reason I think it's so interesting is because I was reading Houston Stuart Chamberlain, another, now he is also considered controversial.
And he was talking about this transcendent ideal in Christianity where you can it's you're supposed to be free.
So Samuel would say that there is no escape from this all-omnipresent God.
And Cortez would say the same thing about the Christian God, that you can turn away from God, but the wrong path will eventually lead you back to God, just in a less pleasant way.
So you can either face God at the beginning and try and live your life in harmony with God, or you can set off on the wrong path, but eventually that will be its own punishment and that punishment will bring you back to God.
But the fundamental difference, I suppose, is this idea of a free choice.
And I think that you're supposed to choose the right.
And I think that if you have the capacity to choose the right thing or to live honestly or to live as well as you are able to live or to accept when you've, you know, when you've done something wrong or I think that I don't like the idea that things should be, that there should be no choice.
I don't think we're given a choice by God to do the right thing.
I don't think you're supposed to just be cowering in fear and do something resentfully.
I think you should want to, I think you should want the good.
And that's what I suppose I think is happening in society.
We've just switched God for a computer.
We've switched God for a camera.
And we've switched God for the mass opinion or the or a human opinion.
But really, that doesn't mean that we're free.
We're just trying to do something to get along or to be popular or to be liked or to or so that we don't get into trouble.
There's no natural desire to participate and to be kind to the people around us.
It's more superficial.
I think before you tell me about your show, I need to go and have a pee.
Do you mind?
Actually, before you tell me about your other thing, I want briefly to hear about what it was like in Ireland.
Because, I mean, so was it basically a normie comedy festival with mostly normie comics?
Well, this is interesting.
So I've done this festival for three years in a row for a brilliant guy called Aiden McKillick.
And the reason I started doing them was because he was a guy in Ireland that during lockdown went up mountains, prayed.
He did shows in fields and people's back gardens.
He refused to participate.
And I would hear about this guy and I thought he was an amazing man.
And then I missed him at a festival that I was doing.
And he invited me to the Dorky Comedy Festival.
So I went over three years ago and it was fantastic.
But I arrived and this woman said to me, the place was sold out.
And this woman said to me, you know, what brings you here?
And I said, oh, well, I know Aidan because of his stuff during the lockdowns.
And it's great that people haven't all bought into the bollocks.
She's like, ah, to be sure.
I think everyone bought into the bollocks here.
And it turned out that she was some sort of Irish TV star.
That's why the place was sold out.
Thank God she told me, by the way, because I do exactly the same jokes, but my asides are slightly different.
Or I anticipate that not everybody will get things exactly at the same speed when it's, you know, normies.
Anyway, so I had a great show.
Obviously, you don't go every year, but the next year he called me up and he said, Um, I think I told you the story.
He said that I needed to help him because he'd been cancelled because there was he'd apparently liked a joke on Twitter, and a man who considered himself a woman had taken, is that the right way to put it?
Had considered had taken umbrage at the fact that he'd liked a tweet.
So, I think it's a sign of psychopathy to go through someone's likes on Twitter.
I think that you're already completely deranged if you're doing that.
But anyway, some girl had pulled her out of the comedy festival because she was worried that if he was a transphobe, it was going to impact on her career.
He obviously hadn't done it, he just liked a joke anyway.
Before he even told me any of this, when he said to me, Will you help me?
I said yes.
And then he said, I have to tell you what I've done.
And I said, No, you don't.
I'll help you regardless.
And then he told me, and I thought, This is so fascinating.
We've reached such a peak of paranoia now that something as pathetic as that, someone else going through what you like or don't like, is something you feel that you need to confess before you can put someone under the obligation of agreeing to do a gig.
If I was to check all of the tweets that somebody had liked, not even written, but the things that they might have read or seen or appreciated, or that I would never work again.
I would not be able to speak to anybody anywhere.
It would be, I would be mental.
Anyway, so I went over and did that festival and I wasn't supposed to.
And I did two shows that time because one was the All-Stars at the hotel.
They're very loyal, the Irish.
If you have any kind of Irish scar, those shows always sell out.
And they had Reg D. Hunter over.
Now, he used to be a fantastically relaxed guy.
He was terribly affected by the COVID stuff in his head.
But anyway, he seems back to business now.
Anyways, we did a couple of shows then.
And then this year, we did our own shows.
So Alistair and I went under our own names.
So it was a slightly different audience.
But I bumped into my computer crash.
It was devastating.
But I bumped into Craig Campbell.
I don't know if you know him.
And his Canadian friend, Alex, who had gone viral being anti-the COVID stuff.
And they're all hardcore.
So, um, but I'm, you know, I like the fact that I can do the same stuff to lots of different people and it just has a different impact on whoever I'm doing.
But Ireland was quite odd in that regard because obviously some people were coming to see Alistair and me specifically.
And it's a chap called Tommy who brought his son to Bob's exhibition.
He'd come along.
I have school friends that came along that, you know, normies.
And then there were also people that see Alistair and I, but it was a really, really good show because that's the weirdest thing about doing this.
At the beginning, you start off and you're thinking, God, I've got to sort of eke out 35 minutes for my 25 minutes.
But now that we've been doing it for a few months, we have to make sure we don't run over at 45.
And it's just, it's just much slicker.
It's just much better than it was.
We're putting some more dates in at the moment.
But no, that was a good show.
Ireland was fun, but it's Alistair.
I don't know if you've seen him recently, but his stuff is excellent.
But it works for everybody.
That's why it's so clever.
Because regardless of your opinion, I am going to come and see you.
It's just a question of finding him.
Well, we're going all the way till next April, I think, at the moment.
We've booked in for next April.
I've been thinking about it.
Oh, yeah, Bath.
That's for the comedy festival.
That should be really good.
I booked to a bigger theatre for Stamford, so we've moved that to a studio.
And then other ones, we're really busy.
So we're just going to keep on going and try and do the whole thing again.
You're going to keep going until I come, basically.
Yeah.
Well, I said to Alistair, well, you know, regardless, next year you can just take all the details if he wants to do his own tour, you know.
And he said, no, no, no, we're going to keep on doing it like this.
So we're going to just redo the whole thing.
I just spoke to Andy this morning and got another one in.
It's been having a really nice time.
He's really funny and he's really nice.
So it's pretty easy going.
In London, I always make him stay and do a meet and greet.
And it's got to the point now where he's probably driving back.
And obviously, I don't drive, so I get to have some sleep.
I am now at such a stage where I'm thinking, God almighty, I really need to race for the train myself.
I'm knackered.
It's been quite a trek going up to these different places, especially as we have to come back because we both have children and my children don't want me to be away for more than an evening.
So it's been really fun.
It's been good.
You don't stay in hotels.
It depends where we are.
I don't drive.
So I had to stay in Ludlow.
I had to stay in Glasgow.
I have to stay in Ireland, obviously.
But anywhere that I can get back from, like Southampton, Chichester, Bath, etc., etc.
You know, if I can get back, I get back.
And if I can't, I can't.
But yeah.
So now tell me about your new venture.
So when I was doing our apocalypse with Bob, I remember him saying to me, Oh, it really irritates my father when someone says research instead of research.
I was like, oh, all right.
Then a few minutes later, I thought, why does he say that?
Did I say research instead of research?
And it would happen that sometimes he would correct me via this character of his father.
And then when we went back into rehearsals after Newcastle was cancelled, we were going to be at Dingwall's.
I obviously hadn't looked at the script since November.
So I was prompting him because I wanted to see how much he remembered so that we could, you know, get everything back to top level.
And anyway, he said either this or either that.
And I prompted him.
I said, either, blah, blah, blah, or either, etc.
Anyway, the next time I saw him for a rehearsal, he said, oh, I asked my father about Ethel or either.
And I think his father said something like, oh, yeah, what kind of creep says either?
But it became this ridiculous joke where we'd end up correcting each other on our language with this with this character of his father, who I obviously met but didn't know well.
And we came up with this idea with them to have the show called Pedants Revolt about people just being really irritating, correcting you.
Now, I think Bob's idea of it was that it was going to be a genuine quiz based on those old quizzes like my word and stuff and call my bluff.
But it's ended up being the kind of play where just his father and I are constantly correcting him.
And then all of I've known a very strange group of people and everybody I know, my wonderful friend, the concert pianist and her opera singing husband, Patrick Fagan, the behavioral scientist, Tim Price, who did Unlock TV, Paul Rodriguez, who filmed Comedy Unleashed.
But everybody has just been streaming in and out of my house doing these funny little cameos and this ridiculous thing where Bob's father and I are banging on about words.
And we've recorded all six episodes now.
They're about 10 minutes each.
The two pilot ones are out.
The three and four should be out this week, probably before this podcast comes out.
But all six are going to be out before the beginning of December.
And then on the 16th of December at Backyard, we're doing a huge Christmas syndic.
So everyone's going to be playing music.
And then we're going to do what is essentially the play, but the Christmas version, with everybody that's been in the series is going to turn up and do cameos.
And it's actually, I've not been reading very much because I've just been reading all of these different histories of grammar and finding the most annoying mistakes possible.
And it makes you completely crazy.
I said laypool the other day instead of lapel, and radimentary instead of rudimentary, because I'm so I've forgotten how to speak because everybody's become so preoccupied with the correct way to do things.
But it's been really fun to do and my, my photographer, friend Nussie, she was taking pictures for the, for the cover art, and then she ended up doing a part and everybody's got different accents.
You know, one person's Scottish, one person's from the north, one person's very London, and obviously Tom and I um, we don't say things the same way.
He says controversy, I say controversy.
So some of these are got to do with where you live.
That is an interesting one.
What what?
I don't know.
Let me see, think how I pronounce it.
Um, I'd say controversy.
I think how do you say oh, thank god, controversy.
And I, it's obviously almond, but they say almond anyway, it's.
It's become this ridiculous, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Hang on, I say almond.
What do you?
What do you say?
No London, there's no.
Yes, there is no bloody L in Almond, absolutely right.
Also, do you know the one that really annoys me is, it's a sloth.
The upside-down creature hanging from a branch is a sloth.
It is not a sloth.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, do you call it?
Well, I don't anymore now.
I call it a sloth.
No, you've done, but this is Americans.
Call it sloth.
I, um.
I have to read you this.
So we have, um.
I found out that apparently uh, Tim says of the, the self-defeating strategy, the self-deceiving strategy of the ignoramus, and then someone said to me it should be pronounced ignoramus, and he has just sent this.
It's hilarious.
He has just sent this message um, I.
I want to read it to you so you understand how ridiculous everyone is now being um, let me find it.
So I said I think I said to Paul, I think we're going to have to record Tim saying this correctly because apparently it's Ignoramus.
And then he said, um oh, where is it anyway?
He doesn't tell me it is correctly pronounced, Ignoramus.
I've never, i've never heard it pronounced that way before, ever.
Well he, he says that.
How dare anyone correct his Latinate pronunciation?
It's a Mama Samatis amount, not a Mamus.
That's, that's not.
That's not, that's not a, that's no defense.
So what i'm saying is that there are some things in this pedant's revolt that i'm assuming people are going to contact us about and say that's not correct and then we'll have to defend.
But everybody is getting so, everybody's getting so absurdly intimate that it's, um, it's been really, really fun to do and it's so clever that you've you've, you've got a punchy, a witty title that makes all the difference.
Yes well that's, that was Bob's idea actually, the title and the what do you colour?
Yes, and Paul, who wrote the music for Apocalypse, has given us The jingle, and is it also?
It sounds really good, but it's also so silly.
And it's interesting, all of the things that you can say about the world when you're just arguing about pronunciation or about correct grammatical form.
And there's the episode that's coming out in the next few days, what a name.
It says in a won't tell you because they're getting funnier and funnier and funnier.
And number six, I was crying, laughing, listening to it yesterday.
So hopefully, everybody will listen to the whole series.
I will have to listen to this.
It's very rare that I listen to anything these days, but I'm going to listen to that.
Sounds good.
Yes, well, I'll send it to you when the next episode is out.
Then you can listen to three in a row because it'll only take you half an hour.
Yeah, do that.
I should do that.
Please, everybody, come on the 16th of December because it's going to be a party.
And for it to be a really good party, it needs to be: I want everybody that's fun and is on everyone.
Are you closing my thing on the sixth?
I'm still trying to, but my children have their Christmas concert, and it doesn't look like I can change it because they play the piano and they sing.
Yeah, but they're not going to be very good.
Well, they are.
And also, they're not going to be professional quality.
It's not going to be like going to see who's that.
It's not going to be like singing a dick, please.
It's not going to be Olafsson or whatever he's called.
Vikingo Olafsson playing that bach.
They're not going to be that good, are they?
He teaches some prodigies.
And the most amazing thing about these concerts is that you'll have a small child like my son who's playing War Dance, which is quite a basic piece.
And then you'll have another child who's nine playing Rachmananoff.
It's really wild.
And everyone has to sit there and listen to everybody else and be as respectful to each of the different children.
Some of these children are absolutely extraordinary.
They sing in three different languages and they're, I mean, they're absolutely Chinese.
They're fantastically gifted, but all of the children are having the same teaching.
I'm playing two duets with my children.
So I can't miss that because I can see you have an excuse not to come to Dick and James's Christmas special.
I would love to come.
December the 6th.
Do you know what special thing we're doing?
And by the way, James.
Yeah.
Tell me.
I bumped into from your from your do.
You know that wonderful chap, Dan, who was bell ringing with us?
Yes.
You must know him.
You must know Dan.
Yeah, and I love Dan.
Dan is Dan is my speaker agent, and he's never ever got me a gig because I'm just unsellable.
I love Dan.
Yeah, so he came to Southampton.
He came to our show in Southampton.
He is absolutely fantastic.
It's so nice to see him.
And so many people from your people from your dues have come to our shows.
I'm so grateful.
I want all of those people to come.
I'm trying to persuade Dan to come on the 16th of December.
But he says it's in London, but which is.
He will come to your show.
He's hopefully going to make an exception.
It is in London.
It's a long way away.
Can you just let me finish my plug for my show with Dick?
Because I like I'm incorporating it now.
And so all the lovely people that you've just spoken about, Tony, will be at my Christmas special with Dick.
And of course, the unrested chickens are playing.
But people are probably going to stay the night, I imagine.
Not at my place, but they'll be staying round and about.
And the next morning, I'm going to commandeer the 9:15 communion service and make sure that I choose the hymns so there won't be any ones that aren't bangers.
So, I'm thinking, I'm thinking of because it's Advent, so you get you can do Hills of the North Rejoice, which gets rarely sung, and it's really good.
Do you know that one?
You didn't Hills of the North Rejoice?
Oh, it's brilliant.
Um, and obviously, oh, come and manage it.
I have changed my channel, and maybe I love that.
I've been asking for Jerusalem, um, and there's another.
Oh, yeah, I'm thinking of Tell Out My Soul, the Greatness of the Lord, which is just a you can't not be happy when you if we if we'd sung that at the beginning of this podcast, we'd have been would have been do you not know tell out my soul?
It's not that James, my voice is not that.
The greatness of the Lord, it's good, it's really good, uh, it makes me feel happy.
What do you have a sing song at your house?
Um, we're gonna, we're gonna at the end of the at the end of the um, the thing, we're gonna, we're gonna do it.
No, no, no, we don't, absolutely not, no way.
My daughter can actually sing properly, like she's got grade eight distinction, so she would never tolerate us singing because we're just we're not we're not trained voices.
Um, no, we we we don't, we don't sing only I can only get away with it in church, and my singing has improved.
I mean, that because the amazing voice your throat who has who do you know who's got an amazing voice, Alistair Williams, has heard Williams can sing like an angel, yes, it's absolutely extraordinary because we were backstage and I just tuned up this guitar and then he started singing and I nearly fainted.
He's really good, and Bob's a brilliant singer.
It turns out all of these people have got all of these talents.
There'll be loads of singing in our Christmas show.
Um, I would get everybody on there as well.
What's honestly, it's such a gift.
I was just so surprised.
Is it a kind of lyric, a lyric tenor, or a kind of lovely, sort of strummy, guitar-y folk voice?
It's it's the most perfectly in-tuned voice, and it's it's not deep, it's it's um but it's not high.
But Bob's got a lovely voice too, but but it's slightly higher.
But Alistair, I was so surprised because he's never mentioned it.
It's more an opera voice, it's a more a pop star voice or a folk of let's say a folk singer's voice, but really tuneful and personal.
Very nice, yeah, how lovely.
I love all of these talented people, so much talent, natural God-given gifts flying around all over exactly right.
It's my lunchtime now.
Um, I need to eat.
Apparently, I'm told I need to eat kind of lovely, sort of nourishing, stewy things.
I hope I get better.
All right, jolly good.
You are going to get better.
Yeah, but it's no, yeah, I know.
I have cheered up since the beginning, but I have to say, I was bleak.
I'm telling you, I can tell you, I was so bleak when I started this podcast.
Because apart from anything else, the hunting season is running away with me.
I mean, I haven't been out nearly enough, so I haven't been feeling well enough.
And the last time I was out, I fell off.
Not in a good, no, not in a, it was an unnecessary fall.
It was an unnecessary jump that was the problem.
I shouldn't have done it.
And it was a very tall rail going downhill.
And I just thought, the hounds weren't running.
There was no point.
It was just complete like throwing yourself into the enemy wire to no purpose.
Anyway.
At least you didn't fall off because you were feeling weak.
At least you didn't fall off because you were feeling weak and self-pitying.
No, but I didn't.
No, but that is the reason I think had I had my wits about me, I would not have not have taken the jump.
Because I was just like, I was sleep through walking through the whole thing.
And you need to be concentrating every moment, everything.
Slip the reins.
Otherwise, the horse's head will, which is what I didn't do.
You've got to let the horse give him the rein so that he can, his head, because it's all in the head or it's on the neck, the jump.
And they'll pull you off, which is what happened, basically.
Downhill.
Off of a horse, which is huge.
It's not fun.
Anyway, so thank you.
Do we need to, well, you've plugged your show.
Do we need to will you send me some notes or whatever you want mentioned at the bottom of your of the blurb?
Yeah.
And I'll do that.
On Tuesday, the 16th of December for this big Christmas do.
And then just generally, the tour dates and everything are all on my website, great.
And I will come and see you because I want to see you both being funny and I want to hear.
Oh, have you?
Right.
Okay.
Lovely.
Well, I'm here, but my only thing.
Go and read your book about how terrible gem childs are.
