Conrad Franz is an American journalist who hosts the popular “World War Now” podcast. He covers what he describes as the “ongoing third world war” through the lens of Orthodox Christianity & worldwide reenchantment with specific focus on the prophecies of the ancient & modern Orthodox Saints. He also delves deep into historical and conspiratorial topics with incredible guests on his paid show “Aether Hour”. You can find all of Conrad’s content on his Substack: https://worldwarnow.coand his shows are available on YouTube, Spotify, & Apple Podcasts as well.
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Welcome to the Delling pod Conrad France This is unusual this podcast in that we're it's being recorded in Moscow and in the near view you you you could almost see it it's it's just gone a pigeon on the roof and beyond that is the the TAS building which is like the Russian what is it like CNN or something?
C ban or AP I like AP yeah and you can see their um satellite dishes on the roof um I personally think that TAS probably produces less propaganda than say the BPC or or your CNN and Conrad and I are on this bizarre I call it bizarre because I'm I'm quite surprised I was invited on it.
The Russian Patriarchate, that's the Orthodox Church in Russia, has invited us on the trip to Moscow.
And how cool has it been?
It's been one of the greatest experiences of my life, to be honest.
And this is my third time in Moscow, but this is my first really church-focused trip.
And as an Orthodox Christian myself, it's been a pilgrimage of a lifetime, I guess is how I would describe it at a certain level.
and it's really been an honor to have James here who this is and I'm not trying to be uh overly praiseworthy but I would be remiss not to say that I don't think we could have chosen a better non-Orthodox pilgrim uh companion or pilgrimage companion than James because he's pretty much taken right to edit to everything and blends right in in the churches for like everyone.
I have.
I should have mentioned that now Conrad's given the game away.
Conrad is an ortho bro.
And not just that, I would say he's so orthodox that he makes the he makes even the patriarch look like a kind of fair word orthodox.
See, he's crossing himself because I've mentioned the patriarch.
So, um, yeah, it's been a really interesting experience for him.
And the reason I'm talking to Conrad apart from his, uh, his interesting, uh, enthusiastic kid he's he's actually the age of my son so I I do kind of think of him as sorry to patronize you and can I just say I ri how much I hate you because we've got these hotel bedrooms.
Mine is really you could not swing a kitten in my in my hotel bedroom and and I can't do my morning exercises where I combine the my various stretches with my psalms and it's so it's quite important to be able to have some space.
And Conrad compla in the I I suppose maybe an American way you complained about your room and you've got this fantastic view with and and and lots of space and and you're you're a child and I'm an elderly distinguished man and you get anyway um so umrade also has a a podcast which does which talks about really interesting things.
Just tell us the theme of your podcast.
Sure my uh my show is called World War Now uh we're mainly on Substack but we're wherever podcasts can be found and our little tagline that I came up with of course is covering the ongoing third world war through the lens of Orthodox Christian prophecy and rising multipolarity so I believe we are in the ongoing third world war and uh the powers that be the world controllers just haven't uh announced it yet.
Yeah I I I think a lot of Delling pod listeners will be totally on board with that and I like the the angle that you're gonna use Orthodox prophecy.
Because the thing I've noticed about in my week, looking at Orthodox churches and monasteries and talking to you and and and other things and and and paying homage to I what do you call it?
Revering.
How do you what do you do with a relic?
We venerate it.
Venerate it, venerating venerating the saints and all that.
You've got loads of saints.
Oh, I like that.
It's a good advert for the Orthodox Church.
That you you've got so many like you work so many miracles through your through your people.
Um your saints have remarkable predictive powers, don't they?
Indeed.
Of course, going all the way back to the old Testament prophets who we still venerate to this day, all the way up to saints, as recent as 2019 having reposed, we have uh prophetic words, clairvoyant gifts that God gave to very holy people, and very often they spoke on things uh that delve into the realm of geopolitics that delve into the realm of war.
And in this age of confusion, when I started my show, I realized I could start any other geopolitical analysts show where I I read articles from different languages and I try to talk to experts.
But at the end of the day, most people I I think are guessing they don't actually have a window behind the curtain to see the people that run the world, what their actual plans are.
But I believe the clairvoyant words of these saints, these people that have been, you know, the that followed Christ so closely that they are now in heaven and praying for us.
Uh I think focusing on my analysis on what they say and my general outlook and perspective on what is to come has to do with uh their predictions, not some kind of, I guess, human analysis that I'm uh trying to come up with.
So I think it's a good way to cut through the misinformation because these are people who very often weren't even paying attention to the news at all, and only had these things revealed to them in deep prayer.
So all the the non-Christians and some of the non-Orthodox Orthodox are gonna be going, that's that's a big claim you're making there, comrade.
Show us your stuff.
What what are the what are these w what are these saints said that has come true?
There's so many different ways we can look at it.
Of course, we're here in Russia, so there were many Russian Orthodox saints before, for example, the Bolshevik Revolution that prophesied the Bolshevik Revolution.
We actually went to the Romanov Museum where I ended up recording a show with my co-host, and we went on a fantastic tour learning about the Tsars of Russia, the last Tsars before the uh the Talmudic Bolsheviks, for example, decided to.
We're gonna talk about the Tsar later on, because I mean this is really interesting.
You're an expert on the on the murder of the the Tsar, and you're gonna tell us, I think, that it was all a cult.
It was indeed an occult.
I've got a lot of things pulled up right here for that.
And we saw uh a photo and uh some relics of St. Seraphim of Sarov, who any Russians listening will know who he is, of course.
And we heard the story of how he uh before he reposed gave a note to the nuns of his monastery, and he told them, You will give this to the Tsar that canonizes me as a saint.
And the Tsar that canonized Saint Seraphim of Sarab as a saint is of course Nicholas II, the final Tsar of Russia, who we also canonized as a saint in the church.
And uh this note supposedly the nuns then gave to Tsar Nicholas when he was visiting the relics of Saint Seraphim to canonize him.
Uh the Tsar opened the letter and he said he began to weep, and he began to become very introspective and sort of reserved in the immediate aftermath of this, and it is said that St. Seraphim told him exactly what was going to happen to him, his martyrdom and murder uh at the at the hand of the Bolsheviks, and he accepted his fate in that moment, effectively preemptively accepting his fate as a martyr.
So no it didn't just say, sorry, you're gonna die.
It gave details of how he was gonna die.
We don't know exactly, but we believe that there probably was some insight into what really occurred, especially considering today the ritual nature of it is actually still somewhat disputed within Russia, because there are certain people that don't want to wade into those controversial waters.
Well, the Bolsheviks, the sort of the the the successors of the Bolsheviks, yeah, yeah.
So I I hadn't I hadn't realized that because I think we're going to discover that the Tsar did not perish in a very in the kind of way you'd want to die.
No.
And I can see if you were reading a note, you would weep.
At the very least, you'd be thinking, oh no.
Well, especially if it says your children and your wife as well.
Yeah.
Which you know he would have done everything he could to take it himself, but uh unfortunately the Bolsheviks they they didn't do what they did because of some actual crime the royal family committed.
They knew uh the white army, for example, was actually encroaching on Yekaterinburg, which is where the execution took place, and if the White Army, when they did eventually take Yekaterinburg, if they had been able to recover the royal family and rally them to their cause, the Bolshe the Bolsheviks never would have won the Russian civil war.
Although we know who was funding the Bolsheviks, and we know I mean, with America, Britain and Germany all funding the Bolsheviks.
I don't know.
I mean, I think even even if there's if the white Russians had rescued the Tsar and used him as a sort of rallying figurehead.
I wonder.
I mean God versus money.
Yeah, well, it well, I've noticed that.
There's a lot of tradition of of God winning battles for the for the Russians.
Um what was the one that we've been with K we saw Karakov, was it?
I'm forgetting.
No, no, yeah.
There's many examples.
Yeah, we're we're we're going out of our area of expertise there.
Um so um, yeah, we're talking about the saints.
Yeah.
You you talk about your prophetist prophecies that have come true.
What what what are the other ones that have come true?
Uh sort of more recently.
More recent.
Yes, yes.
So we have the the tradition of the early 20th century where I think a huge change occurred in 1918, almost exactly a hundred years ago.
We sort of entered a a chaotic age.
And since then, for example, we had many saints in the later 20th century.
Many people might have heard of St. Paissios of Mount Athos.
I think James has even mentioned his.
We like St. Pesios, because um what's the book called The Elder, the uh the Guru, the El the Guru, the young man, and the elder Paesios.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is a m which is a must-read.
Fantastic book.
Yeah.
And of course, so if you guys are already briefed on St. Pesios, I don't need to sell you on his holiness, but uh he, of course, talked a lot about uh the Third World War.
He talked a lot about eventual war between Russia uh and Turkey.
He talked a lot about the things that are going to be going on in Gaza and the Middle East, and one of the other saints of who actually reposed in 2016, Elder Theodore Agiopharangides, who lived on Crete, he gave this amazing prophecy uh years and years ago.
He said when the Jews strike the nuclear rather on that fateful Friday morning, when the Jews strike the nuclear capabilities of the Persians, then the events that have been predicted will start to escalate rapidly.
And one of those events talked about by St. Paissios is eventually the Turks will close the Bosphorus and Dardanel Straits to the Russians, which will follow actually the political or physical fall of Erdogan from power or from this life.
Uh, and then the Russians will descend on the Turks, uh, and there will be a massive, a massive Third World War that will ultimately result in a Christian Constantinople.
I'd forgotten there was beef between the Russians and the Turks.
Um did that start?
Well, the Russians forever, I suppose.
Frankly, the Turks and the Russians have always always been enemies in the sense that when uh Turkey conquered Constantinople in 1453, that's when we believe Russia took up the mantle of Christian Empire of Katechon, as we call it, the restrainer of the Antichrist on Earth, the Third Rome.
Of course, the first Rome fell in the fifth century, second Rome fell 1453, Constantinople after a certain group of people opened the gates, and in uh delicately put there, yeah, one and comment.
And a certain uh Russian Empire then emerged, St. Vladimir the Great, of course, had already been uh baptized into the Orthodox Church in 988, and 1453 at this point we have Tsar Ivan the Third, his successor Ivan Grozny, and they had been intermarrying, for example, with uh the Paleologos dynasty, the final dynasty of the Byzantine Empire and Constantinople.
So both in taking up the Christian Orthodox mantle from the fallen uh Eastern Roman Empire, as well as carrying on the uh royal bloodline with Ivan III and Sophia Palaeologos and their uh succession, uh the I believe Russia truly uh did succeed as the Christian Roman Empire.
And this is something that uh is going to come back because when the Tsar Nik when Tsar Nicholas was killed in 1918, I believe that marked truly the end of what is effectively starting with Saint Constantine, going up to Tsar Nicholas II was a somewhat unbroken line of Christian Orthodox emperors on Earth that I think provided a sort of stability and sort of restrained,
as I've called it before, as the Bible talks about the Katechon restrains the potential rise of Antichrist and the I guess success of Lucifer in his reign on Earth.
It's very hard to spend time here in Russia and not think that we are approaching the final battle with the forces of darkness.
And they see it, they see it much more strongly, I think they get it much more strongly here than we do in in the West, that the devil is abroad and they see Russia as the the kind of helms deep, don't they, of of Western civilization.
Well, of course we met last night Andrey Afanasiev and he has that show on Spas TV that I've been a guest on called Russian Ark, with sort of the presupposition being that Russia is like Noah's Ark in this like deluge and flood of apostasy in the world.
And this isn't to say that Russia doesn't have problems.
We've been learning about the fight against abortion and the fight against mass immigration, even and other things here in Russia.
But because they are engaged in a literal war with uh forces of evil in the Ukraine and the United States.
Yeah, with literal satanic Nazis wearing the wearing the black sun on their although apparently I I heard that that even the the Russian side has some pagan Satanist types as well.
Well, and the the the funny thing about the Nazis on the Ukraine side is they're somehow also willing to support gay pride parades.
So how consistent Well, I think I think Nazis do love gay gay pride.
But um the situation here, of course, they haven't had a Tsar since nineteen eighteen, which of course we talked to many people here, there's divided opinion, but uh we even spoke to a bishop who said that the young people are beginning to return to this idea that maybe after Putin, maybe in the next few generations it's time to uh restore the monarchy and restore the empire here in Russia.
This is I I I know this is your dream, Conrad.
I'm I'm sort of sensing it's still at the sort of the early stages at the moment.
I I I I know you think it's all gonna be nice when when Russia gets its Tsar back and and Christianity wins, well orthodox Christianity is what you want you want to win.
Um I get the I get this vibe that because I I was asking a few people, do people understand here that Bolshevism is basically Satanism?
And I I don't th I don't think they're quite there yet.
And that we learn that the popul the actual church going population, what's the what's the what's the total population of Russia?
125.
120, 130 million.
Okay.
And the Orthodox priests, the the bishops and people we're talking to, they said about what, three percent go to church.
Uh d uh uh a regular church goes.
Yeah, and those are older numbers, so based on what we've seen, I would be willing to increase that a little bit, but it's true, Russia has only been post-communist state for barely over thirty years at this point.
So many churches have had to be rebuilt, which is one of the most beautiful things in Moscow now, the vast majority of the churches here were destroyed.
I think it was three quarters of the churches in the city were destroyed under Bolshevism, and now I think at least a thousand of them are have been rebuilt.
So the skyline of Moscow is i is is adorned with golden domes these days, and that's I think the the seeds are now sprouting uh of the of the what do we say?
We say the blood of the martyrs has watered the seeds of the church, and no country has more Christian martyrs in the past few hundred years, of course, than Russia under the Bolshevik yoke.
And you are right, people certain people are remiss to fully condemn the USSR.
Most people are willing to perhaps condemn Lenin and Trotsky, but then it comes to Stalin, people, of course, they they believe a lot of the World War II propaganda.
They still think that uh the Great Patriotic War was some kind of actual like Russian nationalist endeavor, as opposed to ultimately the victory of communism in all of Eastern Europe, of course, which led to horrible persecution.
So uh as much as there's some of that going on, I think generally speaking, the younger people uh and the devout people and uh even people fighting in uh the special military operation are starting to realize that communism Bolshevism is no rallying cry for a nation.
Yeah.
Um do you think we should go to the the murder of the Tsar?
Because here uh I mean it's it's it's probably quite a lot a lot to talk about, isn't it?
There is there is a lot to talk about.
Yeah.
Um okay.
So tell us how it started.
I mean what so what what are the when would the Tsar and his family rounded up?
And in fact who who who sort of who booted him out of office or whatever the phrase is.
Well, of course, in 1917, that is when supposedly it is said that the Tsar abdicated, which in an absolute monarchy isn't really a thing.
You know, there's there was an attempt, of course, people who don't understand the revolution, the initial revolution in February of 1917 and in the uh earlier days, you know, the actual people fomenting revolution, these were what you would call social democrats, liberal democrats, masons, people that wanted a constitution, people that wanted a parliament, people that basically just wanted to integrate into in post-Enlightenment liberal Europe at this point.
And they were the ones that succeeded in turning public opinion, for example, against the Tsar.
And in 1917, uh later on in October, that was when the Bolsheviks took power, effectively using the power vacuum created by these revolutionary liberals uh to seize power in a much more revolutionary way.
And they forced the Tsar in some way to abdicate, and there's a rumor that he they some say he signed it, but it was signed in pencil.
The handwriting was very different from Tsar Nicholas II himself.
So those of us who believe in the ritual regicide and the have looked into the details of this, we reject the abdication outright as as not legitimate.
So the Tsar never actually stopped being the Tsar before he was ritually murdered, for example.
So okay, so so we've got these liberal revolutionaries.
Is this Terensky?
Yes.
Okay, so Kerensky and his crew.
Well, are they more numerous than the Bolsheviks?
At this point, they were definitely more uh widespread in society.
There was more appeal from them the upper classes for sure.
Not that there wasn't support for the Bolsheviks and the upper classes as well, but it was really the nobility uh that supported this movement against the Tsar, and his Russia has a long history actually of sort of this interesting alliance, you have the corrupt aristocracy, the landed nobleman, because serfdom only ended in Russia in the 1860s.
So you had these landed aristocracy, of course you've read Anna Karin and you've read your Russian Russian literature, so you're familiar with sort of the the the milieu that they existed in.
And they uh they they were often actually against a line where the aristocracy was against the Tsar and the peasantry.
The peasantry, people always assume, oh, the peasants wanted to overthrow the Tsar, this autocrat.
In reality, there have been much more examples in Russian history of the peasants flocking to the Tsar, begging the Tsar as this sort of this sort of almost outside of the universe figure to come and help them against their corrupt aristocratic leaders, and many times that did occur.
So it's this sort of there is a populist element at a certain level to the uh to the autocratic ruler who has sort of a duty.
I mean, Tsar literally means Caesar.
And we of course know in Roman history, Cincinnatus there had been times when figures were uh imbibed with absolute power to uh deal with corruption and deal with the crisis, and in many ways the uh the Tsar served as that counterbalance to uh corrupt institutions and those entrenched in power at a sort of mid-level.
Okay.
So Kerensky and his aristocratic liberals affected the first revolution.
And then the Bolsheviks, who I'm right, Art, they were funded by Schiff, by Loeb, by of course I mean Lenin himself was obviously sent by train into Russia by the Germans and uh by the bankers giving him his money.
He spent time in London and in Switzerland.
We've learned on this trip about many of the meetings, and many of our friends are very aware of the the places and the hotels in London where Lenin was meeting, the hotels were in Germany where he was meeting, you know, the people that he was getting his funding from, and they were of course American bankers, and the the b and the city of London ultimately controls them, so we know where this is coming from.
Okay.
So bankers from New York and London, and what's the game plan?
So obviously, in many ways, people didn't think Russia was ripe for revolution.
They sent the Germans in many ways saw it as just a pragmatic effect for World War One to send Lenin in there to disrupt behind front the front lines in Russia, because of course we know that the monarchs of of Europe were very reticent to enter into World War One.
That was something pushed by Winston Churchill and his uh place in the Allies.
And and the Milman group.
Yes, of course.
Yeah.
And uh so when we realize though that the Tsar and the Russian army were winning, uh there's this horrible slander that people talk about Tsar Nicholas, how he was this weak ruler, he was this effete man, he uh I don't even know, he was a slave to Rasputin or something who you need to have my co-host on to do a deep dive on Rasputin.
That was maybe we'll do Rasputin because he's I mean he's a topic on his own, isn't he?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm no I'm not enough of an expert to do a full show on him.
But was he was it but presumably he was demonically controlled.
People think that these all sorts of things about him, but if you talk to certain patriots here in Russia, they believe he's a saint.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Where where are you on that one?
I I'm I'm sympathetic to Rasputin.
Of course, I mean he was able to heal the Tsarovich Alexei of his hemophilia through his prayers.
That's why the royal family loved him so much.
He was advising the Tsar not to enter World War I. He was advising the Tsar to not uh listen to the revolutionary musings of these banker-backed groups.
He was very much a a sort of spiritual bulwark against the politicking of of the time.
And I mean, he was in many ways you could say he was protected by God.
They tried to shoot him, throw him in a frozen lake and kill him.
And it never died.
Whereas uh Felix Yusupov, I'm forgetting the royal who ended up killing him, was of course a cross-dressing homosexual who was engaged in all sorts of nefarious activity and was one of the scenes.
You make it sound like being a cross-dressing homosexual is a bad thing to come back.
You're so you're so old-fashioned.
So, yeah, well I clearly, if if if that's a good that's a good podcast.
Rasputin was a goodie.
I uh I'd like that.
Um so, yeah.
I have heard these sort of bad things about Saint Nicholas, that he was yeah, weakened and stuff.
But you're you're but you you're saying he was a he was an impressive character.
He was quite an impressive character, and I mean he only he only took office and he was, you know, 26 years old, he was a very young man, he was able to learn on the job, and he had a long reign despite being killed uh before even old age.
And the Tsar was actually leading battles himself, he had dismissed certain corrupt generals, and he was winning.
In the East, uh against the Austro-Hungarian Empire, he was winning.
The battles were going well, the Russian army, of course, was massive, and that's why they needed to disrupt behind the scenes.
And of course, we know very quickly the Bolsheviks stopped fighting in World War One once they took over.
And we know that if Russia had been able to succeed more in World War I as an empire, we would have seen Constantinople already fall to Christian Russian hands at this point.
They were already talking about Tsargrad.
You can look at the Sykes-Pico Agreement, and they agreed uh to give Constantinople to Russia.
That was that was the plan.
And the Bolshevik Revolution prevented that, and that's why the Turks are still there to this day.
I had no idea that because I know this now.
Almost everyone everything one knows about history is is basically propaganda from our own side.
Uh I just assume that the Russians were really crap in in World War One, and that they were losing, and and that it was that effect aristocratic military that just was useless.
But that's not the case.
It's not the case at all.
Right.
And so because I I I know that Russia, France, and Britain spent years in the run-up to the first world war scheming together and forming this this Entente.
Often a sort of secret, a secret club.
And they they wouldn't let Kaiser Wilhelm, even though he was their cousin, know what they were they were up to.
But so there was Russia, France, and America.
Sorry.
Yeah, Russia, France, Britain and America, I suppose, secretly ganging up on Germany, but at the same time, you've got this other plan to stab Russia in the back so that they don't get so that they they don't bet benefit from the spoils of of the war.
Well, at a fundamental level, you have to look at what both the world wars were.
Outside of obviously the bankster scheming behind the scenes and the occult rituals that these battles sort of unfolded as the the goal fundamentally, politically, was to sick the two powerful land empires, actually three at the time with the Austro-Hungarian Empire against each other to the benefit of the seafaring mercantile phallosocracies, as they're called, of course, the seafaring empires.
Well, that's a good one.
Of which the UK was the the ultimate and was then succeeded by the United States, with our uh merchant marine navy now sort of securing uh the the high seas and global trade on behalf of that.
But fundamentally, uh there's philosophical ways you could get into this.
The the landed empires were always more conservative, always more grounded in the church and tradition.
And of course, World War II, all of the major fighting and losses were on the Eastern Front, Austro-Hungarian Empire versus Russia, eventually USSR versus Nazi Germany.
These were these were all of the destruction took place while the UK separate with its little channel across the way watched it's its enemies slaughter each other.
Yeah.
Well, this is this is a this is a a naughty thing I'm going to ask you, because I because I know what you're going to say.
But there's a this this talk here that really slaughter is happening right now in Ukraine is because they want Christians to kill Christians.
The people who are kind of really behind all this.
Not only do they want Christians to kill Christians, but they're very afraid of the current state of their of their state, of their of their country that they established in the Middle East.
And there's many theories about how what's going on in Ukraine is about pushing the Christians out, clearing out that land, specifically Novorosia and creating what's known as New Heavenly Jerusalem.
Of course, Dnipro, one of the cities in Ukraine has the largest synagogue in Europe.
And it would be the capital of this sort of new new heavenly Jerusalem, and there have even been people from Israel that have come, laid cornerstones, blown the shofar, and conducted rituals to uh set the groundwork for uh this new heavenly Jerusalem and which is now currently a battlefield.
Yeah.
So this isn't sort of merely anti-Semitic propaganda.
There's of course there is actually evidence.
Look up Igor Berk, just look him up, and what he's been doing uh with his institute and trying to go to Ukraine, it's it's it's wild.
Who's Igor Berk?
He's a Ukrainian Israeli businessman, millionaire, rich person who is seeking to establish the new heavenly Jerusalem.
Well that's basically the re-establishing the Kazarian Empire.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because they've got ancestral links to the Ukraine.
And of course the Russians, they uh part of the uh of course, throughout the the time of the Pale of Settlement, the Russians obviously segregated uh the Jews, they obviously there was times of strife and persecution, and of course the Russians also destroyed the Kazarian Empire.
They defeated you know, they in many battles defeated them, so there is a there's a grudge there.
Yeah, have you got any good Kazarian Empire defeat of by the Russians stories?
I'm no expert on the Kazarian Empire, but if people want to read uh very fascinating series of articles that my co-host put on a website called Ritual War by Nicholas Kozlov, he's translated this into English.
It's going into how, for example, the Chechen Wars, a lot of the Russian wars in the Caucasus uh are sort of mirroring uh and are are being fought on these ritual Khazarian sites, uh and even to this day uh some of these battles and some of these uh tribes within the Caucasus are still carrying on old Khazarian uh traditions, of course, which involved human sacrifice, which involved the interesting sacrifice of many animals, bears and dogs, which that leads us actually right into the ritual aspects of Tsar Nicholas II.
Well segue the thing there because of course, July 17th, that was when the Tsar was killed, the dog days of summer, as we know it as, and Caesarians, uh the modern Talmudic tribe, of course, that succeed them, the murder of dogs is a very key aspect to this.
I actually recently told you the story of St. Philomenos of Jacob's well, uh, the monk in Palestine who was killed by Zionist settlers in 1979, prefiguring his uh assassination by uh Israeli settlers who uh chopped him in the face and cut off certain numbers of fingers with an axe and then threw grenades into his monastery to set it on fire.
Uh prefiguring that they would often leave dead dog carcasses on his doorstep and uh kill other animals.
And one of the most interesting ritual aspects of the Romanov murder, which again people who try to claim it wasn't a ritual or that it was just the shooting in the basement, as many people know the famous scene, it's depicted in many films.
It's very curious that the the Bolsheviks that moved the Tsar and his family from uh Moscow and St. Pet from St. Petersburg to Yekaterinburg was uh they they requested that they bring all of their dogs, all of their pet dogs with them.
Did they didn't.
But they left all the cats.
So we're wondering why would you if you're bringing their pets, okay, bring all the pets if that's the goal.
But they insisted on bringing the dogs, and three of the dogs were killed with with them, and the fourth dog uh was actually as it says here, the fourth dog named Joy, uh, was by strange circumstances moved to London where he lived on an estate for the rest of his life close to Windsor Castle.
Joy's a girl's name, isn't it?
Was it what you say it's a boy dog?
No, it was a female dog.
So that I think is the most interesting weird fact I've learned today, although the day is young, but but so the Bolsheviks shipped the royal family from Well, they where were they originally?
Moscow or St. Peter's.
St. Petersburg is where the is was the seat of government at the time.
So they were in St. Petersburg, and they were m where is Yekaterinburg.
Yekaterinburg is right at the beginning of the Ural Mountains.
So we're far far east into Siberia.
The Ural Mountains are sort of what divide, you know, Western European Russia with you know the far east of Siberia.
So they brought them about as far away as you could get without literally going out into the wilderness.
Oh, I gather that you can no longer visit Yekaterinburg, or at least you can't see where they were massacred because some Russian commies are well in the 1980s it was ordered that the Apatyev House where the murders took place was to be destroyed by none other than Boris Yeltsin himself.
And uh now thankfully there is a church built on the site called the Church on the Blood, which commemorates the royal martyrs.
So something good did come out of it.
But unfortunately, the only investigations into uh the murder we have were the White Army investigators who for a few months held because the Bolsheviks they killed the royal family, they ritually murdered them right as the White Army entered Yekaterinburg and took it in the Russian Civil War.
And they did an investigation, thankfully, you know, people loyal to the Tsar, prosecutors, policemen, they did their investigation, and that is pretty much the only solid evidence we have to draw the conclusions of what really occurred.
Because of course the Bolsheviks conducted conducted their own fake investigations that totally exonerated themselves and totally uh hid responsibility, you know, they they deny that an order came from Lenin, they deny all these sorts of things because the world was disgusted by what happened.
Even in America, one of the most anti-monarchist countries in the world, when people heard what happened to the Tsar, they were they were disgusted.
Well, ordinary Americans would be, but not the people who actually organized the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place, because it was all going to plan for them.
Of course.
So okay, so Lenin is ultimately giving the orders.
Is there anyone else we'd heard we've we've heard of who's in charge of this the destruction of the royal family?
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
Well, of course, the uh the names that everyone needs to be aware of are of course Yarovsky, who was the the Talmudist that actually read the sentence even in the mainstream narrative, he's the one that read the sentence and pulled the trigger first.
And he was the argument, of course, goes that they they could only the only people they could get to do this were those with deep ethnic historical resentment against the royal family, because they they murdered children.
They murdered little girls, and basically not not Russians, not typical not ethnic Russians Russians.
Were they imports, these people, or were they were there were there had they actually been born in Russia, but they were just Well, the Russian Empire was vast at this point, and of course encompassed the pale of settlement of the previously, which was you know Belarus, Poland, and a lot of these places.
So many of these people come out of those areas.
Of course, it's no coincidence that it was largely the peripheral holdings of the Empire that were empowered, Georgians, uh certain Malaurussians or Ukrainians, as opposed to true great Russians.
It was in many ways the Bolshevik Revolution and the communist terror was a disempowering and in many ways a genocide of actual ethnic Orthodox Russians.
Right.
A whole lotomore, of course, being one of them.
The number of revolutionaries of actual Bolsheviks relative to the population of Russia was tiny, wasn't it?
Oh yeah, it wasn't very big.
And they were, again, most people were sympathetic perhaps with the liberal white movement and with the Kerensky government.
And it's not to say that the Russians hadn't been thoroughly propagandized against their leader at the time, because I think Tsar Nicholas's biggest of stake was allowing for total freedom of the press, because we know who controls the press.
And they were allowed to print anything that they want.
The Russian Empire also had very lax gun control laws.
So many of what people understand as the pogroms today uh that occurred in southern Russia or Ukraine were actually armed-pitched battles uh between Jewish militias and uh local police on police and militias because I mean people know about the assassination of Alexander the Second.
People know about how dozens of bishops leading up to the Bolshevik Revolution had been killed uh by these liberal revolutionaries for uh their monarchist or for their uh traditional Christian opinions.
So obviously the revolution was usurped by a much more radical element funded from abroad, but uh the Tsars had been fighting against this uh the subversive revolution for for a long time.
Right.
Okay, so tell me again the name of the guy who's who was read the the sentence of death.
Uh Yaakov Yorovsky.
And he was from where?
From the Pale.
Yes, he was from uh he had a very strange past.
He traveled to Chicago actually uh before the revolution, and he actually was effectively a member of the the Jewish Mafia.
Uh nothing good comes out of Chicago.
No.
We've we've been discussing that here as well.
Uh and he was a successful businessman, and he actually owned a jewelry store and photography studio in Yekaterinburg.
So he had actually, he was a he was a local resident of Yukaterinburg at the time before having moved from uh the farther east, farther west in Russia.
Right.
So he he'd had his briefing clearly from okay.
And the reason one of the reasons they sent them to Yekaterinburg, it had one of the most active communist cells in it.
So they knew the people there would be deeply anti-monarchy and deeply against the royal family, because they they very much feared the royal family joining up with the white army forces.
And what did the royal family think was going on?
Did they just know that we're being shipped east, we're gonna die?
Do you think?
I believe Tsar Nicholas did know.
Well, he he read the paper.
He had read the paper, and I I I would be surprised if he had told his children about it.
I I don't think that would have been the right thing to do.
These are very young children, some of them.
And you read a book, there's a very important book everyone should read.
It's called The Romanov Royal Martyrs, what silence could not conceal.
And it had go they have all their diary entries of what they wrote while they were in the Apatiev house in Yekaterinburg.
And this is really where they became saints.
They they didn't I don't know, they didn't despair, they didn't grumble, they did their prayers, they were forced, they there was a big fence built around them, they were only allowed to go outside for an hour a day and walk around.
Uh but thankfully, right before, near the end, they were, by the grace of God, they were allowed to celebrate a liturgy with a priest and receive communion uh just a few days before before the end.
So clearly God was preparing them.
But uh in many ways they they were sort of shielded from the outside world.
They didn't really realize how close the white army even was.
Uh so while they were hoping, while they were hoping, I think, that rescue was going to come, uh they had sort of just put entirely their fate in God's hands.
And you can read about that, and whether it's Alexandra, the Empress, Tsar Nicholas himself, or even many of his daughters who were a bit older uh than Alexei the Tsarevich, they it's very heartbreaking.
You know, it's hard to even read the letters without shedding a tear.
Not bad.
Um Alexandra was was she Russian or was she was she was German.
She was German.
She was a Lutheran convert to Orthodoxy, actually.
But it's amazing how someone so long ago, before it was that fashionable to switch religions or convert to a different faith than your ancestors, she took to orthodoxy wholeheartedly.
And her sister, uh Grand Duchess Elizabeth, the new martyr as well, who uh her and her entourage were killed in a different way, uh shot, thrown down the shaft.
In the same place or different place.
And they uh and then her husband was actually who was had been killed uh years before Grand Duke Saraj uh Grand Duke Saraj, who was the governor of Moscow, uh the uncle of Tsar Nicholas II.
He, in 1891, uh expelled the Jews for revolutionary activity from Moscow, 20,000 of them.
And for that, a few years later, he was he was killed.
Well they'd they'd have killed him anyway.
But didn't he didn't need to expel the Jews to get killed by the Bolsheviks, did you?
And Saint Elizabeth, his widow, she became a beloved nun and opened many hospitals, you know, after his death, and was of course obviously a monarchist and was against the Bolshevik Revolution, so she had to be taken out as well.
Right.
So she was she was shot and thrown down a well.
In a mineshaft.
And uh the mineshaft.
And where was that?
What is the name of it?
They're they're called the blank martyrs, and I'm forgetting the name, but they were um it was closer to St. Petersburg in the city in Moscow, I believe.
The let me find this.
I'll I'll find exactly what they are.
I'm not liking the Bolsheviks.
No.
I'm really not.
I mean.
We all knew we hated the Bolsheviks, but I don't think I don't think people realize that they were satanic.
But you were going to tell us more.
The Alapaisk Monts martyrs, the martyrs of Alapavisk.
And this is where they were, it was uh outside St. Petersburg.
Okay.
Okay.
So tell me more about these um the Bolshevik murderers.
I think some of the interesting details are about they they set it up exactly in this correct way.
The Apatiev house was, of course, located on a crossroads for the Hermetic, you know, uh power that that that they like to do things, making deals with the devil at the crossroads, of course.
And I think one of the most interesting uh aspects of this is that uh Tishabov, uh, which is the day of Jewish mourning for the destruction of Jerusalem uh by what the Jews refer to as the two bears of the first Rome Emperor Vespasian, and of course his son Titus, we know the Arch of Titus uh depicts the looting of Jerusalem.
We know uh people like Brett Weinstein to this very day go to the Arch of Titus and extend their middle fingers in front of it in this sort of uh ethnic resentment game against the uh their previous oppressors.
Uh but Vespasian and his son Titus, uh, the date of that, it's uh it's one of those movable, you know, uh holidays.
In 1917 or 1918, uh the date fell exactly on the 17th of July, which was the day when Tsar Nicholas was killed, and as I mentioned before, uh Russia with this idea of the third Rome.
Uh oh yeah.
They they they wanted to decapitate proverbially.
Well, they literally did cut his head off.
That's not in the mainstream narrative, but they wanted to proverbially decapitate the Christian Empire on the same day that the Roman Empire had, in their mind decapitated them, which was the destruction of the temple as prophesied by Jesus Christ in 70 AD.
They love their dates, don't they?
They do.
Okay.
So they fixed the date for the for the anniversary of the sack of Jerusalem by the Romans.
Yeah, what else?
Well, we have to get into the uh one of the as I said, I mentioned the dogs earlier.
The dogs, I think that I still like that detail of the dogs.
And of course the uh the Apatyev house, it was uh strategically purchased by Yurovsky's uh connected businessman at the time.
Uh it was the home base of the Romanov family before uh Tsar Michael was anointed to the Russian throne, so it has imperial history.
They wanted to desecrate something like that.
Uh this was interesting.
There were strange burials of people uh without crosses, so usually a Christian tradition you're buried with your baptismal cross.
Oh, yeah.
Uh but they found graves that were not marked, no one was wearing their crosses.
Uh so it means that it was a graveyard meant for either suicides, so if you commit suicide, you're not granted a Christian funeral, of course, and or witches.
If you're caught practicing the occult, you would be buried sort of outside the city on some sort of hill or something like that.
And it's it's understood that this house perhaps will have been built on top of some kind of non-Christian burial site.
A bit like a bit like the proverbial Indian burial ground in the horror movies.
And the hill it was on is called Ascension Hill, and as I said, it's on a it's out of T crossroads in that in that way.
Okay.
Yep.
And so I guess the next step is to get into sort of debunking what the uh what sort of the mainstream narrative is, which is that they were all just shot sort of point blank with pistols and then were sort of stabbed with uh with bayonets.
And of course it is, I believe there are true there's true elements to that story that the uh the royal martyrs, the daughters of Tsar Nicholas had they had hidden the royal jewelry inside of their clothes, and many ways those diamonds had protected them from the bullets, and that's why they had to be stabbed.
And that's there's a true element to that.
But here is my write-up on you know what what what really occurred, and it goes here.
Apologies for the graphic detail, it's it's not pleasant.
Uh the bodies of the Romanovs were dismembered, cut apart by axes.
Remember how they attacked St. Philomenos with an axe.
Yeah.
They like to chop away.
Is that that's a thing, is it chopping them with axes?
Yes.
Cut apart by axes and they were burned and then soaked in bathtubs or containers of acid.
And a high likelihood that the head of the Tsar, as well as the heads of the Tsarina and the Tsarovich Alexei were placed in containers and sent to Moscow.
And this is not a random version or a theory, but a dominant hypothesis of Nikolai Sokolov and General Michael Dieterix.
These are the people that when the White Army uh captured Yukaterinburg conducted the investigation.
These are the first people to look at everything that went down before the Apativ House was destroyed and under, of course, no influence from the Bolshevik killers themselves.
Um the French general in Siberia Maurice Janin, because there were many people from Western Europe that were sympathetic to the white army cause that wanted to fight against Bolshevism.
He stated that the head of the Tsar was taken to Moscow in his memoirs.
So this isn't just a even uh non-Russians have uh came to the same conclusions as the Russian investigators.
Uh the blankets and the white sheets used to carry the warm bodies from the basements, uh they've disappeared.
Uh one theory is that they were blood soaked and Burned and the blood ash uh was sprinkled over hard boiled eggs on the day of Tisha Bav uh by some of the Bolsheviks when they celebrated their you know and this even high ties back to ideas of you know the blood libel as it is known today when they would you know drain the blood of Christian children put it in their matzo bread and some of these other things which I mean just saying this out loud right now I think if I was in Israel the uh the police would be knocking on my door they wouldn't they wouldn't love you I don't think Comrad.
But look I mean we're talking about Talmudism, is that right?
Yeah.
So this is what they learn when they this is what Madonna learns when she goes to um Talmud classes.
Apparently.
And apparently the Pope these days wants us to think that the Talmud has valuable moral lessons.
Because you saw recently Pope Leo was just talking about Tikun Olam, you know, the Jewish idea of repairing the world.
And that's what I would say they thought they were doing with this.
When they ritually killed the Tsar and his family, they thought they were engaging in Tikun Olam.
They were healing the world, and in their mind the world needed to be healed from this scourge of of Gentile Christianity.
For whom?
I mean For the Antichrist.
Do they call him the Antichrist?
There's an interesting Jewish tradition of uh a character called Armillus, who in the Jewish tradition is sort of like their version of the Antichrist.
And they uh I've never heard of him.
There's this uh mill to make sure I'm not confusing the uh situation.
Yeah, don't get it wrong.
No, no, no.
Yes, Armillus is like because we believe the Antichrist will, of course, subjugate the whole world, and we will, you know, stand in the place of Christ.
Armilis is basically a Christian emperor figure who the Jews believe will achieve a sort of extraordinary power and persecute them, which in many ways you could say all of the Christian emperors, specifically Tsar Nicholas II and these other Roman emperors that were no friend to Judaism fulfilled this role.
I actually believe that, and we don't have time on this show, it'll maybe be a future show I've talked to you about St. John Vitatsis, the Marble Emperor whose relics beneath Constantinople.
He's asleep and he's going to he's going to emerge.
I believe that actually personally I believe that will occur when the Russians take Constantinople.
And it's said that he will sort of restore an empire and there will be a Christian golden age before the time of Antichrist when the gospel will be preached to all four corners of the world, and then the Antichrist will actually kill him.
And this is what it's I mean, the belief destruction of Armilus uh is the ultimate victory of the Jewish Messiah in the Messianic Age.
That's Jewish eschatology.
So in many ways the Jews are anticipating a Christian revival that will then be stamped out by their Messiah.
And of course their Messiah we know to be the Antichrist.
Okay, and then what happens in in according to their theory?
I mean, do they do they think they're the good guys?
They think they're well good and evil isn't really a thing for them.
They think they're the chosen people, and the chosen people win.
And so that's where that's where this comes from.
And of course, I mean the Noah Hyde laws, I mean, the Talmud says that you know they're gonna make the Goyam their footstool.
It talks about how you know we c we are slaves to them, how they can kill us with impunity, how I mean, in the Talmud it talks about that you can engage in sexual activity with a three-year-old Gentile girl.
I mean, it's except sorry to sorry to diss one of your heroes.
We disagree about Charlie Kirk.
But I've heard Charlie Kirk in those, you know, where he he owns students at uh uh and and there was one student who was quoting the Talmud at him, and and Charlie did his I'm owning you by pointing out this is just a kind of uh a tiny segment of the Talmud, which is not which is not accepted by most Je and and etc, etcetera.
So didn't they just say that you're just making this stuff up?
You're just you're just you're you're you're you're painting the worst-case scenario.
I would cherry picking.
And I would never claim to say that the average Jewish person you would meet even would even know about this, of course.
But one thing we love about Christianity is that there's at least it does its best to not have an esoteric, exoteric component.
It's open to all.
Whereas Judaism, of course, clearly there's an esoteric element to it.
They have Kabbalistic mysticism that obviously isn't taught to every Jewish child.
So as much as the average Jewish person may not be aware of all of this, the elites within their circles, the religious people that you know are very much relevant in their communities, rabbis are more relevant to the leadership there than the civil government that Jewish people live under.
Despite the fact that the average person and the average Jewish person may not be aware of this, they will as they will be protected by the powers that be that are orchestrating this because of virtue of their blood, because they are believed to be chosen and even if they perhaps don't know about this themselves, the the controllers that do uh orchestrate and exist within their religion very much believe in this stuff.
And even celebrities that are not Jewish, they try to get them into this.
You know, you hear all about, like you said, Madonna, these other people, they get into the Zohar, they get into the Kabbalah, they get into these things.
And it's no coincidence that it's the it's the Hollywood people that are getting the most exposure to this because we know who controls Hollywood.
Doesn't even Tucker have a at these he's got the Kabbalah bracelet.
No, you don't wear one of those by accident.
Oh.
Especially after people have pointed it out so many times, why would you keep wearing it?
Yeah, you make a good point about Christianity about the lack of um distinction between esoteric and exoteria.
There are no secrets for Christians, are there?
It's like an open book.
No, I mean the only secret is one that is openly understood to us, which is the the mystery of the Eucharist.
Of course you've been to the Divine Liturgy, we close the curtain uh symbolizing of course the temple, obviously there's a separation right now.
But then when the Eucharist is consecrated, the curtain is pulled back and we see everything and when then we commune of the body and blood of Christ ourself.
There's no there's no secret ritual that the priests are you know doing somewhere else that has nothing to do with the congregation.
There's no secret book of the Bible and there's no there's no hidden psalms.
I know if there were James would be looking for them desperately.
But the psalms we have, the books we have, the saints say this is this is the faith and there's no Gnostic secret knowledge that there is to learn.
And once you start getting into that you've departed from the faith.
Although I do quite like the idea of the five secret Psalms.
Only James knows Yeah I've learned all the Psalms and five more well I think the fact that Orthodox the Orthodox scripture has one more psalm than uh the Western canon I think is an appealing thing to James.
Obviously like all ortho bros you're trying to convert me.
And I I have to say when I when I um went to the morning what do you call the morning service again?
Divine liturgy.
Divine liturgy I was looking rather enviously as as as you went to take your communion and they put the stuff on a spoon.
Yeah we have the spoon which symbolizes you know the tongs that the uh the coal was put on the tongue of Elijah from the angel it's a symbolism from the Old Testament and we of course have the the body and the blood in the in the common cup and the spoon is then then delivered and we even commune the infants.
But I could never have snuck in there because because they'd have they'd have rumbled me instantly because you've got to say some things.
They they ask you your name and they say of course I say Conrad and they say the servant of God Conrad communes of the body and blood of Jesus Christ for the salvation of for the for the salvation of soul and body and they uh they then give you give you the Eucharist and it's very serious.
They said this in Russian to you.
Of course but you knew what the the words were so you knew what to say even though you didn't understand the Russian.
Yeah.
And I uh I I got very blessed yesterday because in Russia they're very serious they want you to confess every week before you commune and we showed up we were a little bit late to the service and there were some lines for communion and a few priests were hearing confessions and by the grace of God the first priest I waited in line for spoke English so he was able to hear my confession.
Yeah.
I like the way this this is a brief digression from the from the Romanos I like the way it's people wander in and out of of services in in Russia and you can just you can just wander in and just delight in the beautiful singing.
I mean it's just amaz the deep Russian bases and it's ethereal and it it transports you to another place.
No it does.
And the people might be a bit surprised because you know I I grew up Protestant you sit for the whole service you stand and sing and you're you're there the whole time and people are like why is everyone leaving?
Why are people walking out?
Are they not paying attention?
But there's so much to do you you can go to get you can go to confess to the priest, you can go to the con to the candles and light a candle and pray for your relatives you can go and venerate the relics you know you saw people venerating the relics all throughout the service.
And it's not that people are ignoring the service or that people are missing the message.
It's that in many ways the service is always going on especially at a monastery like we were at there will be morning services every day there will be evening services every day there will be somebody in there even throughout the day reading the hours which is Anglicans you you know all about the hours and the and the schedule of the church and everything and so it's a timelessness.
So if this is it it it's we're basically in church are going into the heavenly liturgy, which is going on at all times.
Right.
And so the idea that you know there isn't there's there's a there's always movement.
There's always it's it's it's this dance, and you you can come in and out of it as you please, and you and you experience you know, you experience prayer, not just standing there and observing the iconostasis and listening to the chanting, but when you go venerate the relics, when you even go to confess, when you go and light a candle for your deceased loved ones.
That is that's all part of part of the prayer that we're offering to God.
And the women in the headscarves, I love that.
Oh, yes.
I mean, you know, as for as much as the West loves their sola scriptura and Bible alone, the Bible is very clear that women must must cover their heads in church, and Russia has preserved that tradition.
Well, in England, until quite recently, women would wear hats in church.
Even Protestant women in America did it in the early 20th century.
Yeah.
And I like the little details, like I I saw the women coming away from maybe the men do it too.
When the women came away from taking their communion, they they'd walk out of the church like this.
We actually wait in line like this.
Oh dear.
This is how you indicate that you were ready to receive communion.
Did Catholics do that as well?
Um I think some traditional Catholics do, but if you go to the average novus ordo, you probably wouldn't see it.
You wouldn't.
I don't think so.
I haven't been to the nervous order order.
I mean, that's more like Satan worship anyway, isn't it?
It's a traditional Catholic mass.
From an experiential perspective, the best argument for orthodoxy by far is that there was no Vatican II.
There was no liturgical reform.
There's no Novus Ordo version of the Divine Liturgy.
We're doing the same divine liturgy that was written by St. John Chrysostom in the fifth century.
I was asking, uh this we've got this lovely trout Catholic on this trip, and I was how did you how did you Catholics cope with this?
This guy who comes in.
Do you want was it Pope Paul the John Paul II?
Well Paul VI was the one who changed the liturgy.
They put the um the snake-eyed um audience hall.
Shaped in the shape of a serpent.
Well, I think that was John Paul II who built that one.
No, I think I think it was Paul VI.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, he was, of course, the one that changed the mass.
Just extraordinary.
Um have we we haven't have we got to the end of the Remlos yet?
We have more here.
Okay.
And of course, an eyewitness account uh during the time of the investigations, they described a Jewish-looking man with a black as tar beard uh driving into Yekaterinburg around the time of the murder.
Uh eyewitness accounts, uh questioned by Nicholas Sokolov, the white army investigator.
They describe strange non-Russian men at the Apatyev House prior to the murder itself.
Apparently they came from Moscow, and only listen to Yurovsky.
Yurovsky, even the people that were guarding the Romanovs actually didn't want to participate in the murder, because you can hear the later accounts of many of these guards, they were touched by their holiness and by their sanctity.
So Yurovsky, even among the Bolsheviks guarding them, he had to bring in his boys uh to do this.
Uh and they say that uh they were at the Apatiev house, apparently they came from only the the whom they communicated, yeah, they all spoke Yiddish.
That was the big thing.
Is these men and Yurovsky were communicating in Yiddish to the point where even the Russians within the Bolshevik side couldn't really understand the planning and scheming that they were doing.
Just in case anyone thinks that you are rehearsing anti-Semitic tropes.
It is kind of a tell, isn't it, that they were talking Yiddish.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it was it it proves that, again, the whole argument here is why is why does this tribe act this way?
And it's because they're instilled to be set apart.
They they are the fundamental unassimilable people.
Right.
They will speak their own language at home, they will practice their own religion, they will not, even if they do convert to Christianity, they will maintain their identity with their previous religion, you know, conversos, as they're called.
And all uh six memoir accounts of the murders themselves that are official, uh, they have very different versions of events, everything from basic dialogue uh to how the murders happened, who died first, even the clothing the royal families was wearing was described in different ways by the official accounts.
So it's clear that someone's someone's not telling the truth here.
Uh the huge discrepancy is only one of the witnesses was successfully uh interrogated by the white army uh named Medvedev, and Medvedev, this person who gave actual accounts to the white army was killed in prison uh before that they could even leave Yekaterinburg.
So the Like sort of Epstein.
Yes, literally, as I wrote here, Epstein-like circumstances in the Ekatrinburg prison shortly before the White Army uh had to leave the city again.
And as I mentioned before, the Apatiev House, it stood throughout the entire USSR.
And it was in the 1980s that Boris Yeltsin uh decided to destroy it before taking office as the President of the Federation.
Um Was presumably following orders.
You would assume so he was very much a Western lackey who facilitated the uh the looting of Russia in the 1990s, unfortunately.
And I think he was a bumbling alcoholic that was sort of the perfect uh proxy for that.
You know, the West could look at Russia, oh, they have this silly alcoholic leader, you know, let's send in our boys and live.
By the West, do you mean the central bankers?
Yes, yes.
I mean, say what you will about Putin, but the reason Putin is so popular in Russia is because these oligarchs that were able to buy state-owned uh infrastructure, you know, the oil and gas, when the USSR fell, those were sold to private equity for pennies on the dollar.
Yeah.
And those people then exploited the Russian people and Russian economy for a well over a decade.
And it was Putin that reigned in a lot of those people.
So again, regardless of what one feels about Putin, if he's a good guy, a bad guy, whatever, the Russian people are very grateful for him for sort of ending that period of their history.
Yeah.
I think it's one of the ones that us Russophiles are never going to get to the bottom of because we've got this sort of we know how corrupt the Western system is.
And it's very easy to go, yeah, but look at Russia, Russia's so great, you know, Putin's a Christian and he's a s he's a the his people love him and he's doing great work.
And then you get the other people saying, no, no, what you don't understand is he's actually controlled by these people as well.
And I I'm I'm alive to both arguments, and I don't think I how how could we ever know?
How can we ever get we uh you get okay, you can say you should know them by their fruits, but I do know that people seem to be quite happy, I think, here.
I mean that's I think at a certain level we have to understand that no matter how corrupt our leaders might be, no matter how powerful the powers and principalities of the air are to the point where they are completely controlling our highest levels of government and world leadership, yeah.
God uses the plans of men of evil for for good.
So the controllers might be have this grand scheme behind the scenes that they think is going right on track.
Yeah.
But God has his plan.
And God is gonna make them look like fools.
And I think even right when they think they're about to succeed, God will God will flip something on its head and he'll re use a lot of this stuff for his glory.
And maybe, for example, maybe maybe Putin came to power for no other purpose than supporting this war in Ukraine and leading to this big death of Russian and Ukrainian men.
Maybe the controllers behind the scene view that as his role.
But God can use that for for his purposes, no doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Although I think English viewers will be shaking their heads at this point and saying, I don't believe that God is using Keir Starmer for his.
You'll be thinking, nah.
Gosh, they could stoop so low.
I have a hard time disagreeing with you.
Yeah.
Um, so they were chopped to pieces.
Decapitated.
With axes and the and the children would were chopped to pieces as well, do you think?
Chopped to pieces dissolved, and actually, no one wants to talk about this, but the women were undoubtedly sexually assaulted.
Like like in horrible ways.
Oh.
Yeah.
I haven't seen that that film, Nicholas and Alexandra.
Was it was it?
I haven't seen it either.
No.
I don't know whether how a lot of it, a lot of the stuff we even the more positive depictions we have of Nicholas and Alexander are still steeped in propaganda.
They'll still hint at the rumor that Nicholas II had an affair with that ballerina.
They'll still hint at all of these kind of popular tropes that people in the West sort of they they love this, like everyone has sympathy for them, even the people that don't like them very much.
They're very easy to sympathize with.
But people still view them as these, oh, they're these tragic figures, they didn't deserve it, but they made their own bed.
Yeah.
And all of that is just so wrong.
That is you're right.
That's I'm sure you've heard this.
We yeah, well, we talked to that our guide, Natalia, who was wonderful in the museum, and she said under communism, her father had taught her that the Tsar and his family were goodies.
And he said, but and then they'd been killed by evil, murderous satanic Bolsheviks.
Um But he said, don't tell any of your friends, don't discuss it with your friends.
Definitely don't talk to your teachers about it, your your professors.
This is this is just something you need to know, but is our secret.
Um even outside Russia, there's this idea people have, yeah, but they Russia had to move on, kind of thing.
They were the czar, and it was an old-fashioned institution, and they were autocratic or or they were incompetent, or they were whatever.
And yet again, it just makes one realize the degree to which we are propagandized.
No, it is, and of course, there the the Enlightenment anti-monarchical idea, and of course, you guys in the UK lived under the ultimate Masonic monarchy that has been stripped of all of the actual things that make a monarchy good, and instead basically put you in this Masonic Republic that you currently live in these days.
But in many ways, the the the full destruction of what I call the Anshen regime, which I would never defend is perfect, but the dialectic of the French Revolution was very much satanic in the sense that we overthrew all of the old kings of Europe and we create a new world in our image.
And that is very much Luciferian, and the the idea of democracy and universal suffrage is in is in my opinion the Promethean fire that Lucifer brought down onto us and that has now been unleashed on the world.
And that was why the ritual murders are Nicholas II in 1918, the last true Christian Roman autocrat who can legitimately claim to be, I guess, Armillus to the Jews.
Right.
Killing him was a true final victory for the forces of evil, and that's why I truly believe the past hundred years.
It's no cool.
I mean, 2018 was the hundredth year anniversary of this murder.
That was right before the start of COVID, right before everything that's going on.
We had a hundred years of this of this chaos, and I believe now, as we've entered into the next hundred years afterward, a new era has begun, and it's gonna be some of these prophecies being fulfilled, like I mentioned before, with this third world war, uh, with uh the war between and in many ways the this relates to Russia and Turkey because throughout the Crimean Wars, and of course throughout the conflicts preceding World War One, the Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe, everyone knows this.
Yeah.
Russia could have easily taken Constantinople, liberated Anatolia for the Christians there, and driven back this Muslim persecutors, but the UK and the West regularly sided with the Ottoman Empire for no other reason than the self-expressed desire to maintain the balance of power.
So you have the Russians who they viewed it as part of their mission, the Tsar protecting Christians.
You can read a fantastic book called Tsarist Russia in Greater Syria, uh, that explains how the Russian Empire protected Orthodoxy in the Middle East, built schools for the Christians there, helped protect them against the pervasive Ottoman yoke trying to get them to convert.
And then you have the Western powers allying with the Muslims against them, and with the and with the uh the Jewish diaspora of the time.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're qu you're quite keen for the um for the reconquest of Constantinople, aren't you?
What?
Are not all Christians at a certain level?
Does it not make us sad that the Haggia Sophia has those disgusting minarets next to it?
Yeah, you you are you are so hardcore, comrade.
I I mean it's it's it's been quite amusing the the traveling with you.
But but what you're saying is I think there's definitely the sort of um the faction in the Russia in Russia that wants the restoration of of Ezar and wants to wants Christendom to triumph.
Is um I mean they're c they're growing, aren't they?
They are growing.
And we've spoken to some bishops, and I think you might have noticed the the the more pious people are the ones that are interested in in the return of the Tsar, of course.
Well, I mean the the bishops are quite politic, but but the the hardcore militia types we've met who go and take sort of volunteer stuff down to down to the Donbass.
Well, in the bishop we spoke with uh Archbishop Kirill, the abbot of Holy Trinity Monastery and Sergei of Pasad.
He, as an abbot and as a as an active monastic, you know, perhaps like some of the other unlike some of the other bishops who, you know, they're sympathetic to the Tsar, but they're not going to make any political statements.
The abbot yesterday the other day was like, no, many young people are finding this, and I think we realize the importance of this, and I actually think it will happen.
And I think the when when people understand that it's not just some desire to live in some, oh, a based country or you know, a country with the correct political system.
It's the Russians never succumbed to their own version of liberalism.
You know, there was communism, communism ended, you had the Yeltsin robber years, and now Putin, Putin's been in charge for 25 years.
Obviously, there's still a monarchical tendency within the Russians.
There's no this desire to see our leaders overturn every four years and play this illusion of democracy game where we think our votes actually matter.
They never really they never really got into that.
So uh the idea that we should just kind of abandon the the formalities and this kind of democracy game that we're forced to play to maintain favor with the West, that's increasing, and I think that's the people that are true Russians and that uh consider themselves Russian patriots and orthodox patriots realize we shouldn't be playing this game, we should just do what we know is right, which is to have a Christian emperor.
Yeah.
I think that lots of people in Britain and America and elsewhere listening to this podcast will be going, some of them will be going, well, this is a this is a bit out there, it's a bit it it's a it's a bit extreme.
But when you're here in Russia, the people really do see this as the final battle between good and evil.
So for them, abortion is not a kind of well, it's it's a social trend that the Western that came in and that maybe you know that's it's it's a sort of thing we have to accept in more liberal times.
It's like, no, this is a blood sacrifice, eternal blood sacrifice, and it deprives the world of Christian well, mainly Christian Christian children, and we need to we need to breed at more than replacement rates.
We need to we need to populate the world with good Christian children, we need to have big families, we need to marry young, we need to fight, we need to prepare, we need to eat healthy food.
Baptize our babies.
Baptize our babies.
All this stuff is real to them.
It's not just a kind of No, it's not, it's not just a symbol, it's not just something, you know, a lot of people participate in religion, even people in the West, people that I like, you know, you have Sargon of Akkad who takes his kids to church and thinks it's amazing and great, but doesn't actually believe in any of it, right?
And it's this sort of cultural Christianity as a reaction to how evil things are getting.
And unfortunately, that's not enough.
Like, yeah, if you don't actually believe in this stuff, you are on the same side as the people that are doing this.
And you mention how important this ritual was, and I think some of the most important evidence here that are sort of saved to the end is the Yiddish inscription on the wall that when they killed the Romanovs.
And this has to do, and it relates this is the level of disparate information here is no nobody writes about this.
And I'm gonna make sure you guys have linked in the description the massive article series that myself and my co-host have produced on this subject that if you think these details are interesting, you gotta read these articles.
We're trying we're gonna publish them as a book sometime in the near future.
These are very this very long articles, but I will send them to you, James.
You can provide them for the documentary as well.
Yeah, we should, and I'll have, and I want you to help.
But this relation, there was the long, long time ago, almost a thousand years ago, there was a a saintly a saintly king, Andrei Bogolubsky, who was one of the descendants of St. Vladimir, who baptized Rus, accepted Orthodox Christianity, and uh his day of veneration also fell on the same day that the Tsars were murdered, much like it was also the same day as uh that movable Jewish holiday that they had.
And uh there's an inscription in the middle of a cathedral that was done uh after Andrei Bogolovsky, the saintly ruler was killed, and it said, in the month of June 29, Prince Andrei was killed by his servants to him, eternal memory and for them eternal torment.
Uh the text cannot be read any further.
And we compare that graffiti uh that was found within the room that the Romanovs were killed to that inscription, and you have uh the Yiddish, uh the translation from the Yiddish, It was very poorly transcribed, but we've we've done our best to translate it.
And it says the white Tsar was killed that night by his servants.
And so it's this it's this idea that the people that were under the Tsar, the people that he had been subjugating, which in the in the mind of these people, these Jews was their people, they rose up and they killed the white Tsar, who clearly they're they're hearkening our Millis here.
Yeah.
And making it clear that to them this was this was a eschatological victory over their transcendent enemies, and who fundamentally is Christ is their enemy.
And you know, martyring somebody, killing somebody who was ostensibly of pure heart with his family like this, in their mind, you know, there had probably never been a greater victory than when they put our Lord on the cross.
But we know what happened after that, and we know that Jesus came back to life, and we know that Christ, you know, made us a promise that he would be with us until the end of the age.
And even if we lost the Tsar, even though we lost the Emperor, we did not lose Christ, we did not lose the church.
And we still have the Eucharist to this very day.
And I think, while I do believe a Tsar will come back, and that that will be one of the instruments that Christ uses, for us, the victory has already been won, and all you have to do is, as Christ said, uh drink my body and drink from my blood.
And if you don't do this, of course, there will be no life in you.
And if anyone's wondering, you know, what do we do?
What do we do?
Obviously, we're not going to be able to, through politics, you know, bring about the coming of the Tsar or the restoration of an empire.
But, you know, as Dostoevsky writes about, you know, we can, you know, we ourselves can take upon the sins of the world and repent and be Christians, and our prayers then will uh will facilitate uh will help facilitate salvation.
Um people should listen to your poet, shouldn't they?
I I haven't listened to it yet.
But but but but it but it sounds interesting.
And apparently your co-host is is is really good.
Oh, he's really good.
He's the he's the one that translated all these things that I've talked about Russian.
And he um people should check it out, WorldWar Now.co.
That is obviously our uh our tagline, that's our custom URL for Substack.
And we have two shows.
We have World War Now, which is free for everybody, it's our weekly geopolitical analysis show.
And then if you get behind the paywall, we have, for example, we have probably three episodes, two, three episodes about this exact subject going through uh the articles that we have produced about this in more detail.
So you can get behind the paywall to hear those, but even if you don't get behind the paywall, we have 30, 40-minute free segments of those also available to everybody.
So, plus the articles, which have thousands and thousands of words that are available to everybody.
And we don't just discuss the Romanovs, obviously, we discuss other prophecies from the Greek world, we discuss some of the World War III prophecies I discussed earlier, we get into all sorts of elements of history, we discuss uh the AI technocratic panopticon that is emerging around us this very day through a very esoteric symbolic lens, uh, especially with our good friend Anthony Westgate.
So I think the Deling pod listeners uh would feel right at home uh in the world war now extended universe.
Obviously, you want them all to become orthobros and sisters.
They do.
You are quite you're quite into that.
How did it it happen to you?
Well, ultimately I was raised in a I I I do owe the love I have for Christ to my family for raising me in a Christian home, for teaching me to love the Bible.
Yeah.
And these sorts of things, and instilling in me the habit of going to church on Sunday morning.
Yeah.
But like many people do, you sort of you sort of outgrow, I guess, what was happening at home.
And I went to college and I wanted to go to church, and I was a Christian.
And I visited, I lived in New York City, and I visited all the Protestant churches that were sort of in the denomination that I was affiliated with.
And I just I just I just couldn't see myself becoming a part of those communities or like fully investing in that.
And in many ways, I view modern evangelical worship as very feminine.
I think it's the churches are very much dominated by women.
And if you're not into that kind of worship style, you know, the very casual, you know, rock concert, whatever it is you want to describe.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
It starts to become it becomes hard to really put yourself into because it it didn't really equate with what I'm reading in the Bible.
And then what I started to learn about church history.
And I very quickly through uh taking historical theology classes in college and reading more about history and frankly going down the rabbit hole in many ways.
Yeah, I realized that I had to choose between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church.
So I did a deep, deep dive for a few months and years, deciding whether or not is the Pope uh the infallible head of the church or not, is the Filioque true?
You know, is uh you know, is Orthodoxy correct, and I I did come to the conclusion that Holy Orthodoxy was the church established by Christ, and that not only that, but the only way that the West could, I think, uh not save itself, but maybe push back the tides of of the destruction of its civilization from a Christian perspective further, would be to embrace orthodoxy.
And there's lots of yeah, quite a few particularly young men in America.
And in the UK probably.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Who are because I mean you all wear beards.
Almost do you do you I mean is that is that a is that a thing?
Do you have to wear beard or well to be honest?
I'm only have a I only have a beard right now because I forgot my shaving kid at home.
So you're getting you're getting the Conrad beard here.
But yeah, when I when I go to the monastery, for example, I I like to tell them that I just did this for orthodox purposes.
But there's no requirement for lay people, of course, to have a beard, but generally, if especially if you enter the monastic life or the priesthood, it is encouraged to to allow it to grow.
And uh, you know, you ask a priest why do they do this, they'll say, Well, we want to look like Christ, and we know Christ he had longer hair and he had a longer beard.
I wondered about that.
That's the reason, is it?
That's part of the reason.
Also, it had it's to do with vanity.
If you especially if you're a monk, you're really not supposed to be grooming yourself and you know, looking at yourself in the mirror, making your beard and face look all good, you know, making sure your haircut is right.
If you look at a monk who's taking it seriously, he'll have a dishevelled ponytail of his long greasy hair, and he'll have a somewhat unkempt beard.
But the archbishop we met, or was it no, he's a bishop, wasn't he?
Um Theoklithos.
He had the best.
Oh, oh, Bishop Kirill.
Oh, yes.
And he's got a twin brother.
Yeah.
With the same beard.
Yeah.
Now don't tell me he doesn't spend time trimming his beard, because that is a that is a sculptured beard.
He doesn't trim it, he might shape it so it goes the right direction.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
He shapes it.
It's a beautiful I mean it wasn't it the best bit?
It was.
It was fantastic.
It actually reminded me of the beard of Patriarch Porfidier of Sir of Serbia who has a fantastic beard if anyone wants to look up a cool beard.
It would be good having a beard off in the who's got the best beard in the beard as well.
How's your beard, James?
Well, do you know what?
I normally shave for my podcast and because it's still in the morning and I haven't I haven't had breakfast today.
I've been skipping breakfast.
Actually, because you've skipped breakfast.
I'm not a breakfast guy.
Yeah, but I so I so I thought maybe it would.
I found I'll tell you what I did have this morning.
Oh, it's just the best.
Are you are you into raw milk?
I am.
So um Charles, the guy organizing our trip who are wonderful mutual friends who if you want to look we have episodes with Charles on World War Now.
I'm gonna do a podcast with Charles.
He's he's absolutely bring he's he's kind of like the American me.
He's he's yeah, he's great.
Um he took me to one of the farmers' markets in Rome.
And they're not open air.
I suppose because actually you think about the three months of the year here, there's it's you can't go outside without freezing your ass off.
Yeah, the last two times I was here, it was gold.
Um there were these covered markets.
And you think, yeah, but it's it's Russia, it's gonna be a bit, a bit rubbish.
It's gonna because like it's not gonna be it it like an Italian.
It's not like the the covered market in in Rome, say, or or these other or or France, like where you get the peasants bringing in their rabbits and that and that chickens in cages.
And you go in there, and they have everything.
Uh as we say in Russian.
Um not just not just everything, but the fruit.
I don't think you you you've you've seen one of these marks.
I did that.
I was in Moldova before this and saw some fruit.
Okay.
So the raspberries are in these punits, but it's like it's like going into a Rob Ding Nangian Nagian um uh the fruit store, where this the the raspberries are just there's more of them and they're bigger, and they're I'm sure they're more the apples here are amazing.
I mean I've I I live in the giant orchard.
Well, we picked those apples from the tree in that town we went to the other day.
Yeah.
That was delicious.
But I was getting on to the raw milk.
So I bought this bottle of raw milk, which I've been keeping in my in my fridge and having some every day.
And I drink raw milk at home, and it's nice, it's creamy.
But this is just like the raw milk of the gods.
Just like it's got little bits in it.
It's got it's in it, and it's it's the milk and honey that was flowing in the holy land when they saw it.
It absolutely is.
And other things like the Georgian wine we had the other night.
That was delicious.
Which is sort of supposed he has slightly hallucinogenic qualities.
We had young wine, didn't we?
Yeah, and the yogurt.
That was the yogurt, as as as we call it was I think we agreed on this.
This was the best yogurt we'd ever had.
It was.
And it was it because some yogurts are creamy, and some yogurt that have a sort of tartness to them.
And this did both.
Yes.
It's just base notes and the high notes.
It was like it was what you want yogurt to be.
And apparently they spray their food much less here.
It's much more organic.
They're much more into.
And they've got huge amounts of space.
You we we went we went outside Moscow to the to the monastery.
What was the monster you went to?
The other the recent one?
Well, we went to two, didn't we?
The one Holy Trinity in Sergeus Pasad, which was the one we went to recently and met the guy with the right beard.
And that that is the monastery.
That is the Russian.
That's sort of like the foundational Russian monastery.
That's where St. Sergius of Radanej is, and he's sort of the reason why Moscow developed into the center of Rebusha the way that it has.
The guy, Anthony, who was showing us Seminarian.
Yeah, said that that place was because Morris is doubled as fortresses, and it was besieged by the Turks for 17 months.
And it held out.
And I said, Well, what how did they survive?
And he said, Well, most of them didn't.
Two I think two thousand of them died, and there were only about a hundred odd left, but they didn't surrender.
And I can think of a worse place to die than around those around those relics and around those saints.
It must have been Yeah, that's the other thing I've discovered with you.
Um that the relics, the relics are very powerful.
I think you experienced that yourself.
I did.
I was I was I was transported.
It was it was I had a I had a moment which you witnessed, and it was amazing.
Oddly enough, because I'm not I'm not particularly a fan of St. Paul, but it was it was it was in a greatest it was like because they have greatest hits, relic boxes, don't they, where you've got a fragment of the true cross, you've got a bit of St. Paul and a bit of St. Nicholas and Nicholas and and maybe some stone from Golgotha and things like that.
And it was on I mean it it could have been the effects of the surrounding things as well, or maybe it was just being in the arm of St. Stephen was there in the first place.
I think and we're not really supposed to think this in the in the Church of England, well they although we're quite we're quite liberal allowed we're quite ecumenical.
But I definitely think there is something in in the saints, it's it's it's it's not superstitious mumba jumba.
This this stuff is real, it works.
It's about the incarnational aspect of our faith, and of course, I owe a great debt to the Protestant tradition, my parents are Protestants, I'm no I'm no hater.
But fundamentally, this idea that our our faith is scripture alone and it's all about us reading our Bibles, for the vast majority of Christian history, people couldn't read.
Yet there were Christians, of course.
In fact, there were more Christians relative to the general population, the percentage of the population than there are today.
And how is that possible if they weren't reading the word of God, which I would never tell someone not to do.
It's because the faith is incarnational.
You encounter Christ fundamentally, I've never had Christ appear to me in a grand vision.
Most people will never experience that.
The way most people will experience the gospel is a person that you will meet living it out in their life that has been transformed by Christ.
And of course, Christ says, if you can't see me in the beggar on the street, then you're not with me at all.
And that's not just to say that we have we see Christ in the lowly, but those who follow Christ will become little Christs, and as St. Seraphim of Sarov said, acquire a spirit Of peace and thousands around you will be saved.
And that's how most people that's why the saints are so important, because the saints were the gospel.
Someone couldn't read, they could see the life of Christ and they could understand what it means to be a Christian by looking at somebody who is imitating Christ per almost perfectly.
And of course we can never perfectly imitate Christ because Christ is God.
But when when you realize that I mean, just think about even today, what gets more people into that to convert to Christianity?
The fact that they all randomly read the Bible, the fact that they met someone that touched them, and the fact that they experienced a love that they hadn't experienced before, that could only be given to them by someone who experienced the love of Christ.
Yes.
I suppose the the the secular take on that would be that in a place like Russia, where you've got ill I mean traditionally illiterate peasantry, masses and massive literate peasants.
You need you need your Christian church to take the form of the Orthodox one where people stand listening to the priests chanting and looking at icons and being.
And even listening to the scripture readings.
Dazzled, dazzled by it all.
And it makes perfect sense in...
in in Russia.
But you look at the Anglican tradition and you realize that this is what would inevitably almost evolve in a although I hate to use the word evolve.
Because I don't believe in any of that that Satanist nonsense.
But you know what I'm saying.
We live in a an incredibly um literary country where it's clearly the spoken word of the of the the Cranmer, the Kramler prayer book and the uh the um the psalms translations that that I use that it's great, and you do read the people are much more into reading their Bibles.
And uh I I suppose what I'd I'd say to people from my tradition, which is great in its own way, d don't knock the uh don't knock the Orthodox d don't consider it to be kind of superstition because it's something much more in it in it than that.
Well and James, you'll be interested to hear that at the beginning of the 20th century there was very strong Orthodox Anglican dialogue to the point where Orthodoxy really the Orthodox bishops really thought that the Anglican Church could emerge as the Orthodox Church in in the in the UK and in the West.
And all of what you said, reading of the Psalms, the Psalter translations, we all love that.
And of course, in uh in or in Orthodoxy we have fantastic, even recent translations of the Psalms from the ancient Greek that are wonderful, and I read my HTM Psalter all the time.
And so there's so much of the tradition that is compatible with Orthodoxy.
The only thing that that caused the union to be disrupted was unfortunately the liberalism of the Anglican bishops.
It was their insistence on not being exclusive.
They insisted that there are many ways up the mountain, for example, and this branch theory ideas.
They they didn't want to say that you know, they didn't want to perhaps formalize the higher liturgy.
They wanted to allow for the lower church people to continue to do uh things their certain way.
So ultimately the union uh didn't come about.
But uh your your breed of Anglican and the type of the type of Anglicanism that you practice was that Anglicanism that many Orthodox people saw as extremely compatible with Orthodoxy, and I think the love that you seem to innately have for the saints proves that uh even that ancient uh pre-1066 pre-Great Schism, Orthodox England, I think still lives in in Mr. James Delling Paul's.
Well, I live right by this um medieval medieval um uh pilgrimage site.
And you'll love this.
Uh the there are so many pre-schism saints in England that the Orthodox still venerate St. Cuthbert, obviously St. Patrick, so many of these fantastic saints.
And I've heard from a lot of people in England that the only Christians that actually go to the sites and do liturgies and pray these days are the Orthodox.
So you have these like Romanians and and these converts going to you know the ruins of where St. Cuthbert was, or you know, some places where even these more obscure Western saints, especially I mean, in in Orthodoxy, we consider King Alfred to be to be a venerable saint.
So we there's a big big revival of uh the pre-schism uh Christian tradition uh of Orthodox England, even going on right now, and I haven't been to the UK in far too long, and when I do return, I hope uh to go to see some of these monasteries.
Of course, the monastery in Essex.
I we've all been telling James he has to go to I want to go there.
Where you do the Jesus prayer nonstop for two hours.
Every day.
And that's because as you know, I've been reading The Way of the Pilgrim, which was this massive bestseller in Russia in the late 19th century.
And it's all about Is it about becoming a hesitast?
What is a Hesochast?
A Hezekast is somebody who attempts to acquire the prayer of the heart and by acquiring the prayer of the heart, acquire the Holy Spirit, and by acquiring the Holy Spirit ultimately the sort of I guess the tangible goal is the ability to perceive the uncreated light, which is God.
You basically are able to see the un there's a I don't need to get into the essence energy's distinction with an Orthodoxy, but a hesit is somebody who dedicates their life to the Jesus prayer, which is Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me as sinner, and it's it's repeated, and you will say you're on your on a prayer rope,
for example, you will you'll say the prayer over and over, and eventually many of these saints have achieved to the point where they said it so much and with so much sincerity and it's with and it the prayer it said it will descend from your mouth into your heart to where even if you're not saying it, your noose, your heart will be praying at all times.
Right.
Because of course there's the Psalms in the Old Testament that says pray without ceasing.
That's what we need to be doing.
And if one can truly pray without ceasing to the point where even when they're asleep, their heart is praying.
That is something that God will definitely reward, and it's it's how you sort it it.
It's how we say you can become a saint.
I did I have to say, reading that book, I did kind of I was drawn to the idea of becoming a hesit.
Because it it's very it i it's very seductive, this th this idea.
And James won to Mount Athos in 1986 when Saint Haesios, who gave these prophecies about the war that I discussed earlier, was still alive.
So James is a James is a seasoned editor of his expensive.
By by saying, Yeah.
Yeah, I think I met Elder Pazil, and he was great.
He was just like, yeah, he he blessed me.
He gave me a he told me all about this prophecy.
Yeah, yeah.
But I I hadn't realized he'd been made a saint until you until you told me I because I because when the book I read was written, he wasn't he wasn't, he was just an elder.
Um but you were saying that he made prophecies about the vaccine or something.
He did.
He said there will be a manufactured illness, and there will be a vaccine, and those who don't take it uh will be or those who take it will be marked, and those who don't take it will be excluded from society to a certain degree.
And he didn't say it was the mark of the beast, but he said it would be a precursor to the mark of the beast, and I think that's exactly what we experienced during the COVID hysteria.
When when did he say this?
Uh this would have been in the late 80s.
Well, he was right.
He was right.
Yeah.
And thankfully, a lot of people in Greece didn't get the vaccine because they knew the words of St. Paesios.
Bulgaria, of course, which James knows very well, had one of the lowest vaccination rates in all of Europe because the Orthodox people there just they they even if they hadn't heard St. Paisios's prophecies, they they have this innate understanding of eschatology and of how Christian history will develop, and this mandated vaccine for a dubiously existent disease was not something they were excited about.
You just reminded me the the Russian Orthodoxy were a bit uh but the Patriarch were a bit rubbish, weren't they, on the vaccines?
Because we we asked, we tried to get one of them to say, you know, what's your view on the jab?
And he explained to us that the official line was not to criticize the vaccine, so he wasn't gonna go there, which is a shame.
Thankfully we had Archbishop Markel, uh, who we spoke to, who is also in the Moldovan church, which is under the Russian church, who is a hardcore.
That's right.
We should just mention the Moldovans, because you I didn't come this time, I went last year.
But you went to Moldova and you said you found that the priests are being the Orthodox Church in Moldova is being persecuted by basically European Union backed.
Yeah.
What what what would it what happened?
It's a confusing situation, obviously, because basically the European Union is using Romania And the Romanian church to encroach on the ecclesiastical territory of the Moldovan Orthodox Church, which is under the Moscow Patriarchate, Patriarch Kirill in the Russians.
And uh the EU is pumping money into this project.
They are taking they're finding priests that uh you know, in Moldova it's not a very wealthy country, so they're bribing priests, telling them to leave the Russian church and to join this new schismatic body.
If anyone knows about what's going on in Ukraine, for example, with the church persecution there, it's a very similar situation.
We spoke with Archbishop Markel, who's one of my favorite bishops in the church, strongly stood against the vacuum.
It's quite hardcore.
Strongly stood against the vaccine, and Archbishop Markel has been fined thousands of euros, held up at the airport, interrogated, had his things searched just for trying to go on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, or just for trying to go celebrate the liturgy with his Russian brother bishops.
And uh we went there and ever I encourage everyone, you can find it on the World War Now Substack.
I did a recent podcast all about uh the Moldova persecution.
It's actually uh my paywall show that I made completely free for everybody.
So it's not behind the paywall because that information really needs to get out there.
Our friend Charles Bowsman wrote a fantastic article about it as well, if you want to understand it further.
Uh but the Moldovan people, I mean, they they stood strong against the vaccine as well.
They reject a lot of this globalist stuff, and one of the main reasons they did that was because they have such a strong episcopacy in their church there.
And as Moldova is a is the the powers that we are trying to graft Moldova into the European Union, take it away from the Russian world, which it has always been a part of, most Moldovans speak Russian as well as Romanian.
Uh it's clear that one of the things they had to do before they could achieve that is destroy the church there, and that that is that's what's currently ongoing.
We've heard stories of police uh assisting priests in cutting uh the electrical wiring of churches that didn't want to go along with this schism.
Uh we've heard of people being threatened with physical assault by uh agents of secret police forces, so it's truly something out of the Soviet Union.
Um Tell me the guy's name again, the the the bishop.
Archbishop Markel.
Um I asked him how he knew that the vaccines were bad.
And I thought he was gonna say while I was praying one night and sent whatever appeared to me in a vision and and told me that these vaccines are terrible.
Do you remember what he said?
Yeah, he's He said that the Moldovan doctors that I trust told me it was garbage.
And you you're thinking, Moldova, you when you've got a health problem, you're thinking, Well I need to see is a Moldovan doctor.
Yeah, you you you one sort of imagines they're living in the dark ages.
Mind you, dark ages might be better than than modern Rockefeller medicine, coming to think of it.
But but my prejudices were were like, of course the Moldovan doctors are gonna be pushing the jab.
But no.
This guy was saying that the reason he knew and told all his flock not to take the vaccine was that the doctors senior he said senior doctors in Moldova had said, nah, this is MRNA stuff.
It ain't gonna fly.
So I I thought respect to Moldova, I really support their their battle to they're trying to force the the Orthodox Church to go all LGBT plus gay marriage, um pro-abortion, yeah.
I mean all this stuff.
You that Moldova is so backward in a in a in a really good way.
It's it's like old school.
The idea that they should be forced to adopt these new ways is outrageous.
It it shows you that they it to them it's all or nothing.
They can't allow like a little sliver anywhere to exist in resistance to this nonsense to Globo Homo, because they know that if a little sliver of resistance exists, the rest of the world will look at them and be like, oh, we need to be like them.
That's true, and we should be like them, actually.
Because the world imagine if there'd been a bit more resistance to all the nonsense.
If people had gone right at the start, no, I'm sorry.
You're a bloke.
You are not gonna gonna compete at Olympic level as a woman.
As a woman.
You're not gonna it's gonna ruin women's sports.
Sorry, the girls need I know they're rubbish, but they need to kick around the ball or have boxing matches, if if you think it's right for women to fight one another in a ring, but if you those who want to do it, they should do so without fear of being beaten up by a bloke.
Well, if any everyone had said that, would have been well, we'd have had women's sport doing the but to bring it all full circle.
You know, a hundred years ago they killed the Catacone, they killed the Christian Emperor, and since then we've been cast into an age of confusion and so confusing to the point where we don't even know what a man or a woman is.
I love the way he brings he he's su I mean have you ever met a more ortho pro than Conrad?
Little Conrad.
Well big fun rad.
Let's stand up and we'll see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
And I tell you the other if you are if your comrades age, um another advantage of being an ortho pro, I tell you, is that Comrad was given this offer like you can come to this monastery for two years.
The seminary.
The seminary, and you'll s you can stay for free, and you get to learn Russian free.
And I don't know what else you'd learn.
What would else we would do?
Well then you then you could become a priest.
Then you can get seminary education.
Yeah yeah.
You wouldn't necessarily want to become a priest, but but to be essentially paid.
Pay to learn Russian in a beautiful place.
It's like being at a really strict boarding school.
But if any fellow orthobros are listening, you know, hit me up.
I can talk to people at uh Sergius Pasad at Holy Trinity Lava and the seminary there.
They want precocious young uh Americans to go and learn Russian there and potentially enter the priesthood through their seminaries.
So And the other thing, potential ortho bros of of of Comrades age, the men are vastly outnumbered by the women.
There are women, orthodox women desperate to find men.
So if you don't mind growing a beard and you're comfortable with venerating saints.
And long-standing services.
And long-standing so with beautiful singing, then maybe you should you you should think about becoming an author bro or an author sis too.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Well, no, it's been it's been lovely talking to you, Conrad.
And uh tell us again where we can find your website.
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Cora's been emptying the monastic stores of...
This is his favourite.
See if you can guess why this is Comrade's favourite.
Who do you think that is?
Czar Nicholas.
Actually, this one wasn't but wasn't that bad value.
What was it?
It was a great price.
That's the thing.
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