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Welcome back to the Delling Pod.
Telling you, yeah.
Lots of people would be very happy you're back.
They they they love you.
They think you're they think you're really intelligent for a blonde woman.
They do.
And you are you punch above your weight.
Well done.
You carry, you carry the reputation of female blondes, I think.
You you're just like you raise these.
It's quite a burden because um I do you know Dimitri Legrand, the French conspiracy guy.
Yeah, I do know him.
I don't I don't do know of him.
I don't know him personally.
I like it.
I love him on the uh on the phone.
You should guess the one.
But I was listening to him the other day, you know, he's really positive.
It sort of sounds so much more doable, I think, in French, don't you think?
Just but I was listening to him because he goes hard on that the male women thing.
You know, he thinks everybody's a gender bender, officially or unofficially.
And some of them he's clearly right about, you know, the um when you have all of the children in the same family that they're all bringing bought up from the age of three and the other gender.
Um so he's he's quite strong on all of these inversions.
So I was listening to it, I was thinking, well, you know, I have big hands and I'm funny, and that technically makes me suspicious.
Yes, you are a bloke.
I think we've cleared that one up.
Good.
I'm an anomaly.
So anyone, any man, I just like to make clear, any man lusting after you, Tanya is basically gay.
Yes.
Yeah, you're gay.
You you all you tanya fancies, you are gay, and you don't even know it.
Yeah.
So well, obviously he loves uh old Dmitro Dimitri Legrand.
He he loves his his um his uh president's uh dad, doesn't he?
Bernard Macron or whatever his name is.
Brigitte Well, yes, but I mean all of that stuff, I don't think that that's really disputable.
I just think that um I think people just get too deep down.
But what was curious when I was listening to him is that I tried to see some of the clips that he was talking about from pop music and stuff.
And I haven't watched television for 12 years, which I always bang on about because I I think it's really important, and I don't think anyone should watch TV.
I think it's poison.
And people sometimes try and defend my not watching TV as if it's because I'm too invested in it or blah blah blah blah blah.
But it's because I just think nobody should be watching it.
I don't think anything of this stuff could be happening to anybody if they weren't um being manipulated through stories and not even good ones, mediocre ones.
But I'm I know that I'm sensitive to it now because I haven't watched it for so long.
I only see even you know pop videos when I get my nails done in the salon.
And because I got so crossed about how pornographic it all was, normally when I'm in there, it's just pictures of really ugly modern architects so that I get justice cross about.
But I realize that watching these video clips, even small video clips where he's proving his point on or making his, you know, he's demonstrating the symbolism, etc.
It is so repugnant if you're not used to it that you can't watch it.
It's it's just disgusting.
Oh and I'll get rid of that.
No, I have to put it on silent decline.
So I do decline.
He was he was um showing me they don't people don't know that we spent an hour half chatting and half having me run backs and forth to the neighbours trying to get an internet connection.
But uh we did.
I I'm I I'm I'm definitely this your experiences are just a kind of drop in the sea.
Um set against all my travails.
How is everybody who has your dad?
Well, my dad.
My dad had a turn.
Um, and I so I went to see him yesterday on bank holiday Monday, and he went for a treatment with the lovely Michelle.
So I'm confident that that will make him a bit better.
But the thing is, you know, he does, even though he's awake, he does occasionally fall into the pharma trap.
So he'll go to his doctor, and the doctor will will give him some meds.
I don't want to be giving away too much confidential information here, but whatever it is.
But there are side effects.
And you think, well, part, this is this is big farm, and this is how how they do it.
They operate.
They they kill you off.
That's that's how they that's how they kill off old people.
They dose them up with meds.
Honestly, my dear friend's being put on female hormones for cancer.
It's if you're not if you're just taking a step back for a moment, it's even the way they flatter you into taking something that's obviously wrong for you.
So they'll say, Oh, your testosterone's very high.
So for a man, he's thinking, oh, I'm terrific, and I'm so manly it's got me into trouble.
But if you're without the flattery, if you just think that logically, take some female hormones.
I mean, it's obviously not correct, is it?
It's obviously wrong.
How could that be good for your body to take a hormone that's not compatible with you?
I I don't care if loads of people suddenly write to you and say, Oh no, she's completely wrong about that, because actually it's fantastic to give hormone treatment to people.
It's not fantastic.
He's growing breasts and he's not happy.
He's like he's a woman now, so he's crying all the time.
Well, um, but he's he's um I just think it's all so obviously poisonous that I don't know how I mean I just couldn't be persuaded to go back to the doctor.
Unless I broke something, I I couldn't um I wouldn't even go into a hospital.
You were telling me on the on the the aborted podcast, which will never see the light of day.
Um and and actually people shouldn't be thinking oh we were cheated it's like it's it's like the uh when the man came from man from Paulok came and interrupted interrupted Coleridge.
No, it's not that it's just really anyway um you were telling me about your Reiki session.
You went to have some Reiki.
Oh yeah because I was um just so I was curious because years and years ago I knew this man who who'd had Reiki um well we were children and I suppose but anyway I really wanted to know as I was saying earlier I was just so surprised that all of the yogis took the vaccination all of the burlesque people I know all of the alternative comedians I knew all of the musicians bar one that I know they all were all convinced that nothing was being done for them because the Chelton Festival went ahead.
So that whole subculture was swept up into this madness because they felt that the Tories didn't love them enough.
It was so clever but I wanted to find it was it Piers Morgan who promoted that particular line who promoted the line that the Cheltenham Festival gave everyone the deadly disease that was could only be cured by killer death shots.
I don't even think that they thought that the Cheltenham Festival hurt anybody.
I just think that they thought that the Tories didn't care about them enough.
It was as if everybody was seeking some sort of father figure to save them.
And they didn't think that Boris Johnson was the father that they deserved.
But obviously it's not for the government, is it, to nurture you.
It's for you to have your own life.
How did they square their resentment of the Tories with the fact that the Tories were encouraging them to take these safe and effective vaccines, which they took?
I genuinely think that that whole party gate, nonsense, rubbish, I think that the point of that was to reignite that initial feeling that not enough was being done for them or that the Tories were mean to them.
Because I saw people who had gone along with everything, suddenly had some sort of outpouring of trauma all that time later.
So I didn't, my grandmother died alone because of you and you were having a party with absolutely no ability to put together the ideas that perhaps they should have visited their dying grandmother, regardless of what any government said to them.
Or the idea that maybe they were having a party.
because there was nothing to worry about it was as if they could just relive this idea that you know more should have been done for them by the state.
It's very peculiar I I don't it makes no sense to me I understand that it works and it's a kind of mass psychosis but even now I know a guy who got a cancer after these injections and all he talks about is how fantastic the NHS has been for him so he's basically on a tour now promoting the very institution that made him sick because they then treated as sickness.
So he's this young healthy fit man has been he was nearly frightened to death because I said to him you've got to relax you know and he said I'm so frightened he was so frightened at the whole story was really invested in the whole the whole shebang he's really into politics and so he he cowered like a baby and could not pull himself together then he took these injections and got cancer.
Then he is now basically promoting all of the people that made him ill with no knowledge no ability to put anything together oh it's so frustrating.
Anyway I thought because I've been slightly stressed that I would like to try Reiki because I go past this place all the time advertises it into it's this really pretty little place in Primory Hotel.
but I wanted to see someone that hadn't had the vaccine to be, not to be discriminatory but obviously because I am discriminating and that's not what I that's what stressed me out, isn't it?
That I, anyway, it turns out I just could not find any person that does Reiki anywhere that hadn't had the vaccine and then I got in touch with Tony Maraisi who asked an indictment, I would say that is a serious indictment of Reiki practitioners that they were not awake enough to to see to see that the the the death shots were evil.
No and it's like I'm sorry but it's like most vicas and who really understood that they were going to decline all of that whole story, the Muslims.
I don't know a Muslim that took it.
Really?
Sorry, James, he just fell down the back of the desk.
Um hi, are you there?
I dropped you.
Yes.
Yes.
So um where I live, the I didn't mean any Muslims that took it, they rejected it en masse.
Um yeah, like everybody else took it.
Well, that's gonna that's gonna help the takeover, then, isn't it?
It's well, we're well, we're all dropping like flies.
They're gonna the the Muslims are gonna be swarming, and because they're all alive and well and not having had the so that will that will fuel the kind of Tommy Robinson brigade.
Well, I don't you think that's disgusting now?
So I really believe that Tommy Robinson was introduced to the public to tell everybody something awful was happening and see if if to be nice, an entire nation could ignore a crime that they obviously must have known at some level was happening, or it wouldn't have been being discussed.
And now he's being put to the forefront to basically persuade people that I mean he's obviously in favour of what's happening in Israel.
Yes, and he's being reintroduced at this moment, I think, to basically again tell everybody that there's a crime and make us all ignore it, and at the same time, sort of are encouraging us to subconsciously think that these people are animals so that they deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth.
It's yeah, it's really peculiar.
And my my the dry cleaner, Abdul, I went to collect a dress the other day, and um he had a notice in his wind in his door saying that he was just praying and he'd be back in ten minutes.
And I'm good friends with Abdul because um he understood everything but from the very beginning, he was always really kind to me.
Anyway, I asked him if he was alright because I've never seen that sign before, because he it was you know just a scrap of paper, and um and he said, Yeah, I can always praise, but he normally just comes to the front if he hears a customer when then when the door goes.
He said, But at the moment he feels that he needs to focus on prayer more because of everything that's happening in the world.
And I asked him if he was talking about Palestine, and he said, No, just generally everything.
I mean, obviously everybody's upset about Palestine.
My my mother can't have a chat without it popping up.
My father is beside himself, and these that you know they are very much, you know, normies.
Um I don't think anybody's um I I don't know how that's and anyway, so we did talk about Palestine, and he said what's bothering him regarding well, everything.
He thinks everything is happening because we've all turned away from God.
So suddenly he's in a panic and he's praying.
And I the weirdest thing is I think the prayer works, but obviously I if I really believe the prayer works, I should just be praying all the time.
So what is that about it?
But anyway, he said what he doesn't understand is why it's being done so slowly, because obviously Palestine could just be wiped out tomorrow.
There's a reason that we're all having to sort of participate in it.
Um I think it's to I think it's to create despair because despair is more of a sin, is it not than sinning?
So yeah, I I don't I told you that in the Philicalia it has this um thing, Judas Judas and Scariot was a defeatist.
Judas is a defeatist because he killed himself.
So he did something wicked and Peter denied Christ, but Peter repented, so he became the rock and Judas hanged himself.
And despair is is supposed to be the worst sin.
And I think that everything is too it's it's a bit like um Ben Tolstoy is talking about uh young men being recruited into the army, and in that book I sent you, and he was saying how they come back from this army experience conceited and demoralized and therefore unfit for the simple life.
And I think that's what we're we're being being made unfit for living, because we're being conceited we're becoming more and more conceited because always told we're the peak progress, and we're becoming more and more demoralized because we're basically being told there's nothing that we can do about anything around us and it just makes us unfit even to sort out our own crap.
I don't I don't quite go with you on the conceited part in as much as yeah I'm very familiar with the kind of articles that Fraser Nelson used used to commission when he was editor of The Spectator thank goodness that is no longer the case.
And and and they were always pieces about how we are and he writes this I I I expect if anyone reads his Times column they can find him saying the same things there.
We are richer and more happy and more advanced than any time in human history and the naysayers I don't believe anyone reads that shit and goes yeah this is a great time to be alive maybe maybe 15 years ago when I started reading that piece a lot and Matt Ridley read a few good books on that on uh the rest of the I think I think that that's part of the demoralisation.
People I I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just saying though that regardless of whether you think we're the best in the whole world right now you know because the nobody does as well as women when the women won the football whatever crap it was we're reading but I'm saying that people still think even if they don't think we're at the peak, even though they're beginning to worry that things are sort of coming apart at the seams, they still believe that we're healthier than we were 100 years ago or that we have the NHS.
They still cling to these things, even as they understand that maybe we're not where we should be.
They feel that we're not quite where we should be.
Because we should be in this amazing place.
They can't really connect it with their own personal responsibility or lack thereof.
they seem to be that's what I mean I suppose by the demoralisation.
I was thinking Tonya do you remember the days I'm sure you must have gone through this where you you was you you so believed in in medical progress that you said yeah and in a few years' time they're gonna cure cancer because they'll have worked it all out by then or or that or name your name your favourite terror disease they were going to cure it in the future.
Little did we know then that they've been able to cure cancer since before we were born they just don't tell you about it.
No instead.
Yeah well look at chemo chemo is something that you survive if you're lucky and and lots of people don't but there's no that I mean it's just the it makes me feel it's being sick I poison my children oh um actually do you know what this is why I've just turned everything off I don't look at anything anymore.
This is the only thing I even sometimes look at your your stuff and I listened to Dimitri and I couldn't even watch the clips of the music videos he was showing because they were too obscene for me and I thought I just I'm just becoming my own island of one this is something I've noticed since I I don't really listen to music anymore except maybe the occasional bit of bach when I go I I know I've complained about this before but but it it becomes very noticeable.
When I go out to, say, the opticians or I was having a massage the other day and my massage person had this Radio 2 type station on in the background.
When I go to my chiropractor, everywhere you go, shops, obviously, I was in a shop in in in Herefordshire yesterday, just like like Bromyard.
You go into the co-op, they've got pop music playing everywhere.
has pop music playing and you realise that this is just it's it's part of the conditioning the social conditioning because you've got these songs with their lyrics which are undermining they are sort of sexual whatever or they're they're corrupting and they're everywhere and there's no escape from them and everyone just accepts it.
So I won't go to um Jakey says I'm not allowed to mention Vitcum yoga because it sounds like I'm a woman on the edge but um I the reason I do that yoga is because they don't play any music.
I I just can't bear the music I can't bear it and the um even when they have that sort of elevator music when you're having a sort of treatment or whatever Uh making you know it they basically have this they have the same horrible awful music but sung by someone even more generic and ghastly that makes every single song sound exactly the same.
It's really but I do think it's it's you know we used to hear that people in Guantanamo Bay were being tortured listening to Britney Spears.
I really did think that that would be torture.
But now that I've become so um now that I've managed to get rid of it pretty much from my life.
Like I listen to music all the time.
I play the guitar and I play the piano and I listen to lots of classical music and I like um you know folk music and stuff, but I I can't listen to any kind of pop music.
And I can't look at all of the mutilation, all of the tattooing and the the just were you listening to Steel I Span?
No.
Yeah, no, I haven't heard of him.
I look him on all sorts of stuff.
Steel I span.
No, I haven't heard of that.
Yeah, because that's the problem.
There's a massive age gap between us.
You're a child, basically.
Still I span were around in a round in the 1970s, and they had a song called All Around My Hat, which might even have been to number one, and they I think I think they had a singer called Maddie Pryor, and she's she she talked in that kind of that accent that folks sing a singing, and they did another one called that they did another one called Gaudae, and that was a hit that was a that was a Latin hit.
Um they did that sort of slightly sing through the nose type singing, and and uh uh and they may have done a one called the Black Leg Minor.
I don't know.
I just write into songs.
I've just like interesting finger picking patterns, but I I'm not especially good.
But that you know, so what?
Doesn't matter, does it?
It's just a just a thing to do.
So I think so.
When you say folk, what folk do you listen to?
Just well, so I used to I mean I I literally I this is so weird.
You put me on the spot and I'm feeling I can't.
Yeah, actually you can jump off the bot, you can just go no, I don't want to talk about that and move on.
No, but I just I don't I literally don't understand what's happening to my brain because I've been playing um guitar all morning with my friend, and all we were doing was working on stuff like uh you know, the sort of cotton picking kind of music.
Elizabeth Coston, that sort of stuff.
But I've just the reason I'm in the sweat is because I was thinking, what the hell have I been playing all day?
And it's just he so this guy he does um you know folk like Essex, he he's just releasing an album of these classical English traditional folk songs that you would recognise and you'd be able to you'd know all the riffs and stuff, but I wouldn't I don't I don't I can't think of what one of them is called.
Not one.
I I I can't think of one.
Even though I've spent two hours this morning doing this.
Those days that the people would people would gather round and sing and sing folk songs and it was all part of it.
Like um yeah.
It's it's to you know, all the all the sort of anonymous blues stuff, anonymous folk stuff, uh the things that you know, the Travis Picking stuff or the Elizabeth Cotton stuff, that kind of stuff.
But I'm proud of it all, so and I'm obviously no good at it because I can't remember what I'm doing.
Can you can you play lots of bark on your piano?
Yes, but that's much easier.
That's like reading for me, yeah.
Um so I don't know if when I read in French, if I'm reading classical stuff like Stemdown, that's much much easier than reading modern stuff because it's it's written so perfectly.
I imagine if you're foreign and you were reading English, you would find it much easier to read Dickens than you would to read I don't know whatever a name is.
Tina's saying, I'm just looking at some shite on my shelf.
You know, all of these things, they're just you know this sort of slang and this casual lazy construction.
It's just so obviously if you're playing bark, it's you don't have to um you're trying to be true to something.
Whereas when you're doing sort of that, you know traditional style of music, you're supposed to be putting yourself into it, aren't you?
You're supposed to be relaxed, you're supposed to be playing around, you're supposed to be syncopating and playing on the off beats.
You have to be more musical to do that.
Whereas if you're taking something classical, you can it's harder to mess it up because you're it I think it's harder to mess it.
It's harder to mess up bark.
Yeah.
Um have you read Resurrection?
Tell Story's Resurrection.
I have not.
I have it, but I have not read it.
And yeah, no, well, we won't have that discussion now, but I think that that's a that's a discussion we ought to have.
I tell you what's been much on my mind at the moment, which is this book I'm reading called something like Two World Wars and Adolf Hitler or something like that.
Um it's it's it's by these two um his they're not court historians, they're not the establishment historians that that promote the narrative that I'm just being annoyed by my echo.
I can hear my why that why is there a sorting echo on my I can hear it.
I was thinking about this though, just in terms of the um because we're promoting this tour, and I told you I was listening to it.
No, I was just thinking, I didn't I didn't ask one of my friends to do his show because I thought, oh, he's really waxing lyrical about Alison Peterson at the moment and the Lucy Connolly stuff, and I just I just can't I just can't face it.
I just I just can't bear any of these stupid stories that I know that they're gonna be pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed until they have some kind of effect on people.
But at the moment, everything that we're and if nobody reacts to anything, they'll just create another story and another story until people are moved to action.
But I think that everybody needs to turn all of the stories off, all of them off, and just go back to your absolute basics.
I need to learn I need to I'm gonna have to move to a farm, James, and start growing tomatoes.
The thing is I'm I'm a city person and it's just not gonna happen.
I have grown so many tomatoes this year.
I've I've I've understood finally the meaning of the of the term glut.
I've it forces you to you you end up making Passata and I I'm even contemplating making a gazpacho.
Um really gosh.
And and what has a lot of tomato salad with burrata or and or no, actually or um feta.
So but it's good.
It's it's really nice.
They're really they're really meaty tomatoes.
But I suppose the reason I'm talking about the stories, James, is that my I told you many times that my father and I get on brilliantly, even though we don't see eye to eye.
But when I tell you that my father is invested in Winston Churchill, I he has read every speech, every history book.
He has if I was to discuss the war, it would be over.
I just don't think that that is over.
But for here I'm I'm coming around to the view that that he was one of the most evil men that ever lived.
But I'm not sure how long my father has on this earth, James, and I don't think I can fall out with him about Winston Churchill.
Yeah, I didn't mean your dad is the most evil man level it, don't you?
No, I know that what I mean is that I I just I can't No, of course you can't tell him.
Think about think about the you you'd be trying to get to Z without having to do the A B C D E F G H I G all the stuff beforehand, you'd have to introduce so many ideas into his head that it would never compute to get to Churchill Churchill is Hitler.
I mean that that's that's a long course.
That's a PhD course in in rabbit holology.
Yes, I can't I can't go there, James.
I've got my family um relationships are too tenuous at the moment.
Well, we're all we're all in the same boat.
I know it's when when uh we did the exhibition, this um chap came in, a really nice chap, who was a tennis coach.
I've thought about him a lot, and he um the more evidence that he presented to his wife, the madder she thought that he was.
So during all of that period, he did more and more research, like so many of us did, and presented her with more and more indisputable documentation from the actual government sources, the drugs companies, so everything traceable, trackable, demonstrables, anything all verifiable if she'd chosen to look at it herself.
And the more he showed her, the madder she thought that he was.
And then she vaccinated his children in secret.
And then he actually did have a nervous breakdown.
Now, bizarrely, in this um weird twist of one man's personal journey.
He um she met someone else, he's met someone else, and he feels very distressed about the situation in Gaza, and he is now in love with a Zionist, which I thought was was such a um you know, I mean, what a talk about So you so you get rid of the normie wife who thinks you're bonkers, and you approach it.
Well, she gets rid of you, and then you fall in love with someone who is diametrically opposed to you on the one thing that you still feel sick about.
Anyway, I said, Isn't that quite challenging?
And he said, Oh no, it's brilliant, it's fantastic.
It's a completely superficial relationship.
We don't talk about anything at all.
It's really shallow and brilliant.
And I thought this was just wild.
He was one of the most intense people I've met.
He was really profound.
He had so many thoughts that he had had to completely compartmentalize his life, so now he's able to get on with his ex.
He's seems to have reconciled himself to the fact that his young children have been given this drug.
He's can love this woman who he never talks to about anything of any importance whatsoever.
And I I just my chair is squeaking, but it's because I don't know how to do this on my phone.
But um I just thought this is this is very strange.
Uh and the people that came in to the exhibition who had only just started falling down the rabbit holes, they seemed much more vital and able to understand the wickedness of it all.
Whereas the people that have been in the rabbit holes for quite a while now seem desperate to to cling to something, either by totally separating their life from their thoughts so that it was no kind of overlap and they could basically live an entirely normal existence, but knowing that it was a lie, or clutching at new heroes like Elon Musk or Trump.
And do they yeah, and I say I just think that people are desperate to either believe in something or totally dissociate themselves from anything that's important.
I I found that um and then I I look at my friend who took all of the red pills way before we did, but it's able to commentate on the news and stuff as if it's true.
And I just wonder if we're all going to be schizophrenic.
Well, he knows that it's all rubbish, and yet he's able to talk about everything as if it's real.
Really?
That's clever.
So he he talks about it all as if it's completely as it is, he gets worked up about it, but I know, I absolutely know because he told me before I knew anything.
I know that he knows it's all nonsense.
But he's but is that functioning or is that dis dysfunctional?
I I don't know.
No, I think that's dysfunctional.
I mean, it's quite it it it's quite an amusing ruse to get round it, but I don't think it's a very honest one.
I mean I I don't try and engage in these conversations.
What they say I was I'm around for to normy people's house for drinks, and the soldier to politics come comes up.
I'll I'll end up with a very very perfunctory effort to engage, and then I'll just sort of say, Yeah, well, I think it's all bots anyway.
I went, I I couldn't maintain the conversation.
How satisfied do you think that they still are?
By which I mean I do think it's really hard work if you're of my father's point of view to know that you can't even comment on anything, he can't even comment on Trump's terrorists without saying my eyes glaze over because he knows I'm just not engaged, just I don't care about any of it, not interested in any of it.
So it's obviously very tiring for people that want to chat about that stuff, or just work themselves up into a little flurry of enthusiasm about something, it doesn't matter what it is, potholes or right to being normies.
Don't indulge them.
It's like encouraging toddlers having a tantrum.
You don't pay them any attention, just move on.
Yeah.
But so do you think um you could ever get bored of the conspiracy stuff?
Because I think I'm probably zoned out on that as well now.
No.
No, because it's an ongoing project.
You could you the the course is never complete.
So, to go back to this book that I...
To go back to what I'm trying not to talk about, in case my father listens, yeah.
Bye.
Yeah, well, okay.
So what's interesting about this this this is this book, I'm I'm only reading I I'm only in the early uh in the in the the second sorry the first world war hasn't broken out yet.
But the short version is that both world wars were planned by Anglo-American elites for want of a better word.
They they they wargamed it.
They the the reason was they wanted to destroy Germany.
They wanted to create the the this is it started out with Cecil Rhodes and the so-called Milner group, but they were they were obviously backed by by bankers whose names one knows.
Um but the point is that a very, very small number of people in the sort of English upper classes and the American upper classes with their financial backers and stuff, planned the destruction of Germany because they saw Germany as a as a threat to the the Anglosphere, as I suppose we call it now, the the the American British Empire.
So they they they were happy to completely trash Germany and they they plotted it all out, they they were touring the battlefields of of of Flanders in in 1906, that's how far ahead they were thinking.
So when you realize that that certainly the first world war, let's let's stick to the first world war, was planned by the English upper classes and Americans to destroy the Germans, and you think about how many people died or were maimed or had their their futures blighted because there weren't enough um uh the number of women who couldn't couldn't marry because the men folk had been killed, the flower of all this stuff.
And then you look about look at how they sold it to us.
So I mean I don't know how many people died in the first world war.
Quite a few.
I don't know what percentage of the of the the British population was was killed.
Quite quite a significant one.
How did they sell this this blood sacrifice to us?
Well, they did all sorts of things.
So in the beginning, they first of all they turned a country which was naturally pro-German into one that was anti-German.
So they they planted these stories.
I mean, as the war broke out, it was it was babies uh being being banished to death, nuns being raped, remember Edith Cavell.
They had people stunts where people would chuck Bechsteins and Steinways out of their out of their houses, you know, through out of the window because they were German.
People were sort of tormenting Daxons and things like that.
So there were all this the this was the this was the kind of the mind games played at the time, and this was all planned.
And then how do they sell this afterwards?
So they get Lutchens to design the most amazing war memorial, the the what is it, the Tietval memorial, uh the the Menion Gate, the they they get all these war graves with these glistening white marbles.
They they invent something called the tomb of the unknown warrior.
Oh, who is this person?
Uh what what what was his name?
Was he an ordinary man?
Was he a all these tricks?
They have every every public school in the country has its special um c uh war day when the the glorious dead are honored, you get Lawrence Binion being quoted, you get people like Cecil Spring Rice, um I vow to the I can you you think just think of the of the games that they they've played with us to sell the sacrifice of the first world war to the point where n almost nobody knows who started it,
nobody cares, they just think it was one of those things that happened because people with pointy with with with sausage sticks on their on their helmets, yeah, it was their fault, it was the Kaiser.
They bought all this shit.
James, this is why I say if you are prepared to follow a story to its end and let it change your fundamental moral principles, then ultimately I will be able to come up with a story to make you kill.
If you understand at the very beginning that you cannot I talked to you about this before, but if you know at the beginning that it's it it's against Christ's teaching to kill, it doesn't matter how many vicars give you the blessing to go off and kill, you'll know it's wrong, and you will always be a conscientious objector.
So then none of these other things can happen.
But at a very fundamental level, we have been taught that killing is a crime.
If I defend myself even if I defended myself excessively, that's a crime.
Or if you go and kill somebody, that's a crime.
But if the government tells you to go murder, that's not a crime.
That's some sort of uh duty and it's and it's given a blessing and it's done in the world.
Yeah, and you've had a good war.
Yes, you've had a good war, and we've taught constantly in all of our songs, honored Christian soldiers, you know, about the crusades, about all of these different things.
Well, if I can believe in my head two completely contradictory things, one is that Christ says turn the other cheek, and also that Christ says it's absolutely okay to go and murder ten people because uh someone tells me to.
Just they're Nazis.
Yeah, for what yes, but this is what I mean.
If you if you accept that basic contradiction as a first step, then after that, I can sell you any story and I can make you do anything.
And I really have been thinking about this a lot because we're just at the moment we're in a period of in a in marketing, and I believe that the Christian um teaching uh to to not murder, to thou shalt not kill, I believe that is infinitely superior to an eye for an eye.
I just believe that one is superior to the other.
But if you believe in an eye for an eye in an age of PR, there is no depravity to which I could not push you with the right stories.
So, yes, of course, you can have some shiny tomb, and yes, of course, you can have some a piece of music, but it's essentially just different ways of of teaching you that it's all right to murder, and the second it's all right for you to murder, then I can give you any story, and it doesn't matter if it's social pressure or if it's getting someone attractive to tell you to do something, or telling you some terrible tale of woe about how uh this evil Russian did this or an evil Ukrainian did that.
If I accept that I should kill because something's been done to somebody, then I can always be depraved.
I always the only way out of this is to is to cut it off at the root, and the root is the idea that revenge is correct, and and also it's just not qualitatively you know how um who was it that was made to count the people?
You know, this idea that you're always supposed to be counting the people, it's obviously even when um Christ was born, it was because people were being registered and it's this this idea of counting as a sin.
Was it David that was persuaded to count his people?
And it was a crime.
I remember this this line in the Bible of being mystified by it.
Yes, that's right.
You're not supposed to count the people, and but just think of it because people aren't quantities, you know.
My child is not replaceable by one other child.
My child is his own quantity, my other son is his own person, and there's a there's a human oh, I think it's a demonic tendency to count as if we can just be a number and it's not and each person isn't sacred, as if each person isn't the person and the race.
So this is um it's a bit like when you listen to people talk about how obviously some people are gonna be harmed by a vaccine, but it's in the greater good.
Well, it's no, it's not.
What you're trying to do there is you're trying to count, and it's these are not quantitative differences, these are qualitative differences.
So if you if you believe that life is sacred and you don't believe it's yours to take, and you don't think that you can just count people up, you think that each person is themselves and the race, and each person is special and unique in themselves, then none of these stories can have any effect on you, and your soul is gonna be okay.
And so, yes, how do they do the first world war?
Well, they just persuaded us that it was all right to murder, and if it's not right to murder, then you just give people a reason to it.
It's very sad, it's made me depressed, this has made me sad.
Well, I suppose you see uh the the the what made me think of it apart from the fact that I'm reading this book and I find it fascinating is when you mentioned the Lucy Connolly psyop, and there's been bickering on Twitter and elsewhere about whether or not it is a psyop and whether one should be chief.
Not not everything's a psyop comes to line.
And actually, everything is pretty much a psyop.
It really is.
And that if they can if they can fake up World War One and persuade a country that it's in its interest somehow to lose the flower of its youth, or and and and have them lose their limbs and and be mentally scarred and and etc.
If you can persuade a country that that that is acceptable, then it's a piece of piss doing something like Lucy Connolly.
But also just think of the basic hypocrisy.
You're we're we're being told, oh bless you, we're being told to um live in two completely different ways, and nobody can maintain that.
You know, you and this is the strangest thing about as war gets further and further from us because who I which was it that you had just two people fighting and they bore the whole weight of their entire people's so you just have two people fighting each other and then whoever was defeated that was the whole battle done.
Yeah.
Because you had all of the honour in one person, and that again that's quality, isn't it?
They're they're they're they're carrying everything, but you only need one person to carry the world, you don't need to just slaughter en masse.
It's so depressing.
I just think what's happening is so depressing.
But the Lucy Connolly thing, I'm not even familiar with it.
All I know is that Miri said this is a load of rubbish, and I thought, well, she's she's done the work.
I'll just accept what she says.
Sometimes one can contract out one's homework.
I I trust Mary.
I yes, I know.
If you if you are busy, you can just just check what's what you said about that.
Well, they bought laser, she did um believe in voting, didn't she?
In what?
She did she did vote.
Yeah.
She did vote for somebody, and I remember thinking this is a moment of optimism.
I didn't imagine to spring from such an erudite source.
Um we found her weakness.
Yes.
Um I really I'm a big fan, but I haven't really bothered following that the Lucy thing.
And then someone has said how how um fantastic Alison Pearson had been.
So I did watch like a 30 seconds of Did you watch?
You watched.
Just 30 seconds of that clip.
And I just it was all just so weird.
If we don't watch any of this stuff, it years ago I lived in New York and I got jumps, right?
So I sold hats to drunk people.
I I ran this um this little hat shop next to a pub, and people come out of this pub at night, they'd come in to the hat shop, they'd buy a stets and all the straight garments to prance about with a feather bower, and and I would do all my sales basically between 11 and 1 in the morning, and I'd leave.
Anyway, I lived in this place called Williamsburg, and it was really cool.
My friend ran a boutique, one of these vintage boutiques.
They were having a big big party.
And I was missing this party because I was working, but I went to this party afterwards at about I got probably got to this party at half one in the morning.
When I arrived at this party, people were so wasted that for me to catch up, I would have had to just neck to bottle the vodka on the spot.
And I just couldn't face catching up.
It was too I got there too late.
So I thought, solid, I'm gonna go home.
Because there's something, isn't there, about seeing where you're gonna end up when you're completely staying called sorry.
I just don't this is not I can't do it.
So I go home and I'm walking back, and I'm in trainers because I've been working, and um and it was pissing down with rain, and I walked past this van, and this guy was obviously having a a P out sorry by his van.
And I had that feeling that you always get if you're a woman walking home at half past one eight for a bridge in New York City, and thinking, imagine if he was you know dodgy, basically.
And then I thought, I was just comforting myself saying, Don't be ridiculous, it's too cold for anyone to be a creep, you know.
In fact, where do all the creeps go when the weather's this bad?
And as I thought this, he put his hand between my legs, he just ran up behind me and put 71 legs, and I was so frightened.
I I broke my umbrella on this guy's head, right?
But then I didn't do anything.
I just sort of I've just sort of was just stuck on the spot and he ran away.
And I thought just probably someone having a a laugh, you know, just they were just probably just being silly.
And then I I'm sort of standing there, and I thought, well, I should probably run just in case, you know.
So I start running, and um I'm running and running and running, and then I realised that this guy was letting me run to make it fun.
So he let me run quite a long way, and then I could hear him chasing me.
So at this point, I'm I don't know why I'm telling you this story.
So at this point, I'm I'm now running through the neighborhoods and I'm screaming, but there's I'm now in big neighborhoods in Williamsburg, and there are people there.
I know it's half one in the morning, but they can people are still up, you know, because they're loads of buildings, but nobody opens a window or calls out nothing.
And anyway, I'm starting to run underneath these um you know, street lamps, and I I just had I just think you sometimes know what to do.
And I just turned around under one of these street lamps, right?
And I looked at this guy directly, and I said to him, you know, go away, get away.
But then I I also screamed for help, and then I would speak to him really calmly because I thought if he's running up behind me, it's because he doesn't want to look me in the eye.
He wants to not look me in the eye.
Anyway, so I'm talking to him really calmly, but also then screaming for help, and then talking to him really calmly, telling him to stay away from me.
And then he said to me, I'm really sorry, he said, I can't help myself.
And as he said this, he just came at me and you know, and then at then suddenly these two little Mexicans came down the street and they said, 'Are you alright?' And he ran away.
So at this point, I'm thinking I've basically been saved by these two Mexican guys, because they were I could never have defended myself against this bloke because about six foot five.
And I kicked, I just went home.
And I got to the flat and I thought, well, I was suddenly thinking about the state of everybody at this party, knowing that they were all going to be coming home over the next hour or two hours, thinking, if I had been slightly pissed or in heels, or in any other condition than the condition I'd been in, I just wouldn't have been able to think rationally, I wouldn't have been able to get away.
So I thought, well, I ought to call the police, even though really nothing's happened.
You know, and I don't call the police, you know.
I think most I don't believe in the police anymore either.
But I did think, well, if he's waiting, if he's gone back to wait outside his van, I should probably just make sure he's gone before my housemate walks home.
So I called the police, and this is the pointless pouring story.
So police arrive at this flat where I'm living, and they all surge into the flat with their guns, right?
As if the person's in the flat, or it was completely absurd.
So they burst in and they're all there with their weapons, which is unnerving for somebody like me anyway, because I'm English and um and I well, you know, I just got jumped on my way home basically.
And they were all the way they were, I realized that none of them actually had they completely were informed by how they'd seen people behave on television.
And it was surreal because I could see that they were all acting as if they were on television.
And I thought, this is not just because they're American and I'm English, this is because they're not normal.
And I started relating this story as if I was on Oprah.
And I thought, this is completely beneath me because this isn't how I would tell this story.
I'm sort of looking as if I'm upset, and I was I'm not suggesting it's not upsetting, I'm just saying that I wasn't, I was quite relieved actually.
I thought, I've got away with this.
I'm very lucky, just make sure he's not there before my housemate comes back.
But I thought, even I'm having to sort of hyper up the way I'm behaving, as if I'm so when I hear these things about someone's got to tell or someone's got a this or a that, I think, well, no one really knows how to behave now if they watch television, and they all sort of know how they think that they should behave when they're being interviewed or asked a question.
And I was thinking about it because I saw someone say something about Lucy Connolly stuff, and I thought, well, soon we'll be in a position where we won't really know if someone's being honest or not, and it won't be because it won't just be because they don't know it will be because they don't know how to behave themselves.
They they will not they'll be giving an interview as if they've as if it's an interview that they've watched on a television show.
And if you watch children After school, you can see which ones have watched all the TV because they behave in a completely different way to the ones that don't, because they're they're copying and mimicking characters.
And then you obviously have all of the AI crap where you can't really tell who's who or who's signing in for who or who's doubling up for who.
And I think there's going to be no the the only solution to it all in the end is going to be not believing any of it.
And I know that some people say, well, once you don't believe any of it, then you're going to become insensitive and stuff as a person.
But I don't think that you are, because you'll just be looking around at your immediate environment and hopefully reacting to it organically.
And it won't matter to you if you won't be watching it.
But then I think even if that even if we all reach that perfect state, then things would still just be heaped upon us until we reacted in a visceral immediate way.
So I'm not sure what the answer is.
I don't know what the answer is to everything, James.
Maybe we'll get away.
I want to ask you two questions.
Um the first one is um your hat business.
Did you did you own it?
No, no, no.
I was just in fact, I take I I technically shouldn't have been working.
Oops, um don't get me arrested.
Yeah, they're gonna g they they're gonna bust down your door now.
Um, hats to drunk people.
Well, it it was.
I mean, she made a fortune and it's a good one.
They're gonna be what $50 or something or $100.
But it was all the sort of film guys were coming.
So I definitely met the actual Austin Powers, and I mean the one that Austin Powers must have been modeled on because he came in and he he was Austin Powers, and not in a way as he was trying to be Austin Paris, he was clearly the person that the that the character had been based upon.
Loads of um people came in, because it was the East Village, you know, everybody lives in that part of New York.
Um and everyone's got money.
My second question is, do you think the man who was trying to get you was demonically possessed when he said I I'm I'm not in c I I I I don't want to do this, but I have to kind of thing.
Yeah, I mean I was um five or nothing happened because the people came along.
So I've this isn't some demon to demonstrate.
He absolutely had no control over himself, and it was a whole ritual.
It was the it was the letting me run that was the weirdest thing.
Um I don't think that he he did want to do it, especially.
I just think that he I don't think he could help himself.
He obviously had a you know, but whether whether you want to attribute that to I mean he was just ill.
And I'm not saying that in our poor guy was ill.
The guy was a maniac and he was terrifying.
I'm not saying what poor him, I'm just saying that he he was ill, you know, it was mental.
He couldn't have he couldn't stop himself.
I mean, literally.
I j I just find myself becoming increasingly impatient um with people who don't get the supernatural, who don't believe that this stuff is all around us and that there are demons and they're real.
Well, that's why I felt anxious about the Reiki.
So did I ever finish that bakey story?
Because obviously we had this chat.
We had a chat before we've had this chat.
So I I found this Reiki person who was unvaccinated eventually, and I had this rapee, and it was the most extraordinary experience.
You you feel this energy come into your body and move around inside your body.
And then I asked a religious person, a Christian person afterwards about it, because I loved it so much.
I have this thing where I want to just become the thing.
So I'm I'm bad at everything, but I just the second I like something, I think, oh now I want to become a Reiki master.
You know, I like playing the guitar, oh no, I want to play the guitar time.
I'm just not good at anything.
I just suddenly I had this Reiki and I thought, oh, I'm gonna become a Reiki master.
So I say to this Christian friend of mine, I'm gonna become a Reiki master.
I've had the most incredible experience, it was only one hour.
And she said, Reiki's wrong, you're really lucky that you had a good experience from it, so it doesn't matter.
But you shouldn't do that because you're letting an energy into your body, and you definitely are.
She said that it can either be good or can be bad.
And I did have my second appointment because I didn't want to cancel, but I didn't enjoy the second time because I think if you're doing something innocently, you like it, but if you're suddenly wary of it, you're not sure if it's right, you're you feel guilty and you can't possibly have a positive experience.
So the second time I did it, I didn't have a positive experience, and I felt terribly depressed afterwards.
Um and I prayed it away.
So I read your piece on the demons, and I think that if you accept that all of life is an energy, and I felt this energy exchange with with people before where I I've known you could call it the Holy Spirit, I suppose, that I could be in them or they could be in me, and that we're one energy.
And I think that if you look at Christ in the desert, he just was able to all of the good energy and all of the bad energy can pass through a person, and some people can conquer that bad energy, and some people are destroyed by that bad energy.
And so maybe you shouldn't let energy into yourself in case it's going to do you ill.
But I certainly think it would be bizarre to deny what I've experienced myself.
Yeah, this is the way we we were sort of on the on the the um the man from Paullock interrupted podcast that we that we'll never see in the light of day.
Um that we were sort of halfway to talking about this, which is that just I've got a fair chunk of my audience would not be Christians and that they're into kind of stuff like Reiki or past life regression or or whatever, or some people have got sort of spirit guides that that help them heal things and so on.
And my position is not to be I find it as hard to be as hardcore as your Christian friend.
I my position is I don't know.
I I I I think I know roughly the score, but I I really beyond that, I'm not gonna go around if if if if people start quoting Madame Blavatsky at me, then I'll think no, you're talking bullets.
You know, she's she's a charlatan, she's or or people start quoting David Icke at me, I know that they've been misled.
But the regardations and I you you think you you mentioned I think earlier on about some Christians really are bloody annoying and do not know squat.
They think they do, they're really sanctimonious, and they say things like, I think you should pray on that.
I think that you should like like you're wrong, and I'm gonna use use my my Christianity as a bludgeon to to But isn't that isn't that how most people function?
So I I think that you um I think that most of these ways of living or thinking are to enable people to continue without thinking.
It's just a simple opportunity to avoid any kind of um confrontation even with yourself.
Sorry, you're talking about the Christians now, or what?
So, well, yes, I'm saying that religion is either used as a starting point to transcend yourself from this material reality, or it's used as a way of getting your own way and not having to challenge yourself and basically not having to develop or move forward.
Oh, I see.
Of course, of course you have people that are really annoying and say, you know, try and avoid the conversation that they don't want to have and try and avoid any kind of progress for themselves because they're just a different kind of norming.
They're just their framework, if anything, enables them to I I was saying before that the Christians I know that have rejected Christianity because they're basically rejecting the church, they're rejecting Catholicism or they're rejecting what they perceive as the oppression of their parents or the or you know,
rituals that they don't believe in, or or the abuses in the church, that I don't think that they're necessarily less religious or thoughtful than the people that have turned to Christ.
Like I'm hugely relieved not to be an atheist anymore because I think that I was wrong about everything, and it's just a sad way to live to not read anyone who's said anything of note throughout the history of humankind because of Christopher Hitchens.
I just think that's a sad way to live.
But I can also see that lots of people that have turned to the church or turn to past life aggression or turn to whatever they're turning to, it's it's basically because they're they're now realizing that they were lied to in COVID or that or that um the way they saw the world wasn't the correct way, but they don't really want to understand the world, they just want to not think about it in a new way.
I suppose what I what I'm kind of I I think we're agreeing with each other.
What I'm what I'm really saying is that I think it's uh a dishonest inauthentic response of somebody who is awake to be too dogmatic about stuff.
I mean I'm pretty convinced that Lucy C. I mean she's this woman, she's pretty out there.
She's pretty she's pretty out there.
She's obviously had Reiki and everything else.
She's a an amazing woman.
She just thinks that once you are opening yourself up as a portal to the good or the bad, it can be either good or bad.
And to be fair, even the Reiki lady said that.
I didn't really want to be dwelling on your question.
I mean, I I would trust your Christian friend in this instance.
I I I don't think she she's too far off the money.
I mean, look, you've just been reading that book, um His Lob.
Which I've been I you you thought I hadn't recommended it to you.
Maybe I didn't, but it was one of the two books I've I've been reading is is that Hislop book and Earth's Earliest Ages by Pember.
And they were both sent to me by this um collector of antiquarian bookseller who's awake and a Christian.
And both books are absolutely dynamite, but the the Hislock one is is it's pretty good, isn't it?
Yeah, I haven't got far enough into it to be an expert, but I was I do think and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
The the sort of Ludovici philosophy that symbols that were correct at one point, as everything is falling falling.
I mean, we're in a period of um evil, aren't we?
We're not we're not moving towards anything good at the moment, we're moving away from the good.
So he said at the beginning of the symbol, it doesn't matter what it is, let's just say an egg.
Um at the beginning, when a symbol is used correctly and society is organized correctly and everyone is living appropriing properly, then that symbol has a different meaning to as the society crumbles and falls and people become dissolute and dreadful.
Then the symbol itself is it's the inversion of that symbol or it's its duality or its use for negative things is part of the wider corruption.
In other words, you can look at it.
Well, I mean, you could look at anything.
There's this the the moon, uh the egg, the the sun, the cross, the the serpent, the you know, I'm he would say that all of these symbols at some point can be represent different things in a correct society to in a demonic society.
I didn't read this chapter of the book.
It's not in this his lot, this is Ludovici.
So I'm saying that if Hislop is talking about symbols and how there is a parallel between Babylon and the papacy, it's also possible that it's just more obvious as everything falls.
So you know the Pope's, you know, the Pope's in his serpent head.
You know what I mean?
When he gives his speeches and that you'd have to be blind to not see that he's inside a serpent.
And even if you couldn't see that, you can see that he's chosen to be in a side of really ugly building.
You've got all of the beautiful buildings of of faith, and he's choosing to be inside a modern, disgusting, vile, horrible, ugly thing.
So he's obviously that's obviously wrong.
You don't need to know anything, you don't need to even recognise it as being a snake.
You just have to see this man is choosing to be somewhere ugly.
So how can you be delivering a beautiful truth if you literally turn away from something beautiful and say, no, I want to be in this ugly demonic, horrible, vile thing.
It's it's just um I'm in I I feel lost, James.
I'm so hot.
I can't remember what we said before we failed.
We're we're going to we're we're actually going to um end now.
Uh actually it's it's 1633, and I'm not going to end in at 1633.
I'm I'm plagued by 33.
It really annoys me.
So do you want to go on till 1533?
No, 1634.
No joking.
You are annoying.
Because it would have been an extra three.
We're safe.
We're 1634 now.
So um, yeah, well, the but the problem was that you know we spent that whole hour.
I'm so sorry.
And this chair is no, it's it's not uh I don't I'm not I'm not really bothered, but but but I'm just explaining my back is now buggered from sitting in this really crap uncomfortable chair.
My wife's been moving furniture around and I and my office arrangements have changed, and it's anyway.
Um also James, I just spend one hour running up and down the stairs and back and forth and they just find Instagram.
I feel I feel quite dazed and confused.
Tell us so and it's a hot day as well.
Tell us um this is a very uncatched uncharacteristically short podcast, but but you've as always John, there's so much to um you're you're quite dense.
I mean, I feel quite dense today, James.
I've been your your your plus You're quite compressed your ideas.
People can listen to this podcast several times and they'll just begin to fathom what you're on about.
Um tell us where we can see your show with Alison.
Well, this is really important.
So everyone that's listened to me before knows I've been whining on about comedy, blah blah blah.
But um I have been having a lot of fun with Alistair doing these shows.
But because it's often the same people that come to the London one, we've been turning over loads of new stuff, and we just want to go around the country and see all the people that haven't seen us, basically.
Um doing slightly longer sets and we're of everything, you know, the new, the old the gold.
And um we start in Northampton.
We are doing one in London on the Saturday.
Um which we go to the pub afterwards, that's slightly shorter.
And we've got loads and loads of dates in.
We're going to Glasgow, Ireland, um Isle of Man, which I thought was the Isle of Wight.
So bad at geography.
Um so we're going to the Isle of Man by mistake.
I realised that I'd made my mistake when I found out that I couldn't get I had to get there from Liverpool.
I thought I'm sure that's not near the Isle of Wight.
Yes.
Um I have to watch stores.
The men still wear brown brown overalls, there's brown coats.
Oh, really?
In uh in the Isle of Man.
Well, the last time when I went to the TT, uh uh admittedly this was about 20 years ago, but I don't I don't much has changed in the in the Isle of Man since I was left.
Well they don't even have an internet link.
I mean you can get them directly off my website, but otherwise we just pop into the pop into the club.
But yeah, we've got it on Alistair and I are plugging it everywhere, but please come to Northampton because that one's massive and it's the first one.
I I my plan was to come if I can.
Um I'm I've I've suddenly had my life filled with events, some of them good, some of them bad.
Um, but I but uh yeah, I'm I'm I have every intention of coming.
Please, that'd be great.
You are funny, you're both funny.
And I and I love you.
So we've got we've actually done some work and um so it's quite good.
And then afterwards, it's nice to get together, you know.
After you all go out to the pub and so I'm fiddling and dropping everything in this room.
I've got loads of Bob's books behind me.
I need to get rid of some of this stuff.
I've come upstairs because it's cooler up here, but I it looks like a junk room.
Uh um I need a pee now, Tonya.
Um so um if you've enjoyed this this um podcast, of course you have.
Try and support me.
If you can find a way through the Substack system, for example, they make it really hard for you to subscribe.
I've been losing subscribers because they're their subscription system is so crap.
If not, if you if you want to support me, just bung me some uh where you can actually you can you can bung me some money directly.
I give you my bank details if you if you want to inquire about my website.
Um I'm I'm sick of I'm I'm bloody sick of Substack trying to not they cap you.
Everyone on Substacks but who is awake's been complaining about this.
They they they they stop you going above a certain level and it becomes very noticeable.
Um support my sponsors, buy me a coffee, that still works just about.
Thank you.
I appreciate the support.
It's getting harder, it really is.
So please make the effort.
Please, thank you.
Global warming is a massive con.
There is no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem, that it's gonna kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it, it's a non-existent problem.
But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
Well, I've just brought out the revised edition, my 2012 classic book, Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land.
It's a shocking story.
I wrote it, as I say, in the well, 2011 actually, it The first edition came out.
And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
The era when the people behind the Chine Climate Change scam got caught red-handed, tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed, in a scandal that I helped christen Climate Gate.
So I give you the background to the skullduggery that went on in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were informing us.
We've got to act now.
I rumbled their scam.
I then asked the question, okay.
If it is a scam, who's doing this and and why?
It's a good story.
I've I've kept the the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
I think it's a I think it still stands up.
I think it's it's a good read.
I obviously I'm biased, but I'd recommend it.
You can buy it from James Dellingpool.co.uk forward slash shop.
You'll probably find it mic, just go to my website and look for it, James Dellingpool.co.uk.
And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring round all those people who are still persuaded that oh it's a disaster, we must amend our ways and appease the gods, appease Mother Gaia.
