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Welcome to The Delling Pod, Nathan Reynolds.
I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but actually, you know...
I'm slightly more excited than most about you, because your story is just amazing.
Before we get into it, do you get lots of people saying, yeah, no way did this happen to you, you're just making up this stuff?
You know, it's kind of always a mixed bag out there, James, and I think the biggest differentiator tends to be those who have experienced They've run into radical evil for themselves personally and it's a lot easier for them to understand how the access of power and how maybe access...
Two-power is granted to many of the upper echelons of our society, and that comes predominantly through compromise.
And compromise really was the currency that was so well-founded and trafficked in my life early on.
So it's definitely something I've seen both sides of all throughout my life.
There's those that don't want to admit that there is such a thing as horrific evil.
And then there's others that are understanding of it because they've been hit by it.
I haven't met knowingly many members of what you might call the Illuminati families, the controlling families of the world.
Now, the Reynolds family, I know, is a great tobacco family.
That's where the money comes from, isn't it?
Yes, there's a few different branches of the Reynolds family.
And on one side, there's one that is...
Really gotten its power and its control through wealth domination in tobacco and industry.
Later they moved into things like food and food generation, things like Nabisco food that was later bought up in other conglomerates.
But there's also another vein of it that made a lot of their wealth through aluminum, through exotic metals and alloys in the production of those things.
And then there's my side of the family, which is much more engineered towards secrecy and trafficking through blackmail and compromise as the means of making power.
But presumably, if one traced the family tree back, it would predate even the tobacco industry.
Presumably we're talking a bloodline that goes back many centuries and has been involved in this kind of stuff.
Well, throughout my family tree, there's different interlocking members of people that have what they would say is heraldry or an appeal towards divine rights to rule that they have carrying in them.
Part of the ideology of their belief system is much more linked in.
They believe because of what is inherent, the blood in their veins literally contains that of the kings of old, the kings that have been the rulers of society, and they have an ideological conviction.
That that comes from an augmented bloodline.
That it's not 100% human.
That it came from mingling with the gods as they perceived them.
And these are much more akin to what a lot of people might think of as mythology with dragons or with hybrids and things where these ruling powers had children with them.
And those offsprings had the right to rule simply because they were chosen by the gods and they were mixed.
And that's where that ideology and their perspective on how they can dominate and control and destroy people, use them like cattle much more effectively.
Because they don't see them.
They see them as a subspecies.
They see them as a lesser species that can be controlled.
This is exactly why I've been so excited about this podcast.
Because I've heard about this stuff before.
I've read about this stuff.
But it's not often that you hear it from the horse's mouth.
So we know it's one of our phrases in English, English anyway, blue blood.
Blue blood essentially means dragon blood, blood of the snake, blood of the ruling orders, who are not quite human, are they?
There's something else in there that's...
What is it?
My conjecture really is that on one side of it, it's their choices over long periods of time have created a...
A hardening of their spirit.
A hardening of their soul.
They've been calloused to such a degree that they no longer are able to perceive reality the way that most people do.
And they have given themselves over to a depraved mind.
They have consumed so much recklessness, rebellion, iniquity.
They've done so much depraved acts that they no longer have the capacity to see the world through a natural lens whatsoever.
And so that hardening has come through, more often than not, their own initial trauma and abuse and perversion early on in their life where they were parasitically infected with this idea, predominantly incest, predominantly sexual abuse and trauma.
That perverted their ability to see relationships as normal whatsoever.
And so those things come in so early along and they contaminate them.
They contaminate them and they give them a way of seeing the world that is so perverse, that is so twisted and so vile that they think it's normal.
And then they're surrounded by a culture, a small, isolated culture that reinforces those ideas.
Like, I didn't understand so much of my...
Messed up horrific experiences until I was later in a relationship with somebody that gave me a contrast.
I needed to contrast to somebody that didn't have those experiences before I saw them as so twisted.
But that depravity of their mind has gotten to such a level that it is like they are demonized.
That's really the best way to put it is it is a spiritual parasitic consumption that feeds on negative emotion, that feeds on trauma, that feeds on this anguish of soul that caused to these other beings, and it fuels that kingdom.
Well, we can move on to the supernatural element in that in a moment, but I'm kind of curious that… We've all seen movies about the lives of the super-rich.
I mean, The Great Gatsby, I suppose, but there are lots of others.
And I think...
A lot of people think, wouldn't it be great if I lived in one of those huge houses and, you know, the tennis courts and staff and private jets and all the trappings of super richness.
But from my reading, I get the impression that it really isn't a picnic being born into one of these families, that the luxury is just a kind of...
I think when there's a version of what's masqueraded in the media as the most powerful people or the most wealthy people and it portrays it as this luxury traveling lifestyle but the real brokers of power by and far tend to live in anonymity because they've come to learn that the greatest access for life is to be able to Be outside of the public sphere, the public domain.
When you really examine the lives of celebrities, it is torturous for them to try to engage in normal life.
Go to a restaurant, go to a pub, go to have any normal experiences.
It's completely different for them because of that.
And so anonymity was an aspect of it that was guarded inside the families that had a totally different means of access to power.
And so there was, on one side of it, this terror This terror that infected their being, that they didn't have the freedom to live their life however they wanted.
They didn't have the freedom to have relationships with whoever they wanted.
There was a structure and a coordination over their life, a control mechanism that existed over their life that did not give them the autonomy, which I think is what appeals to most people about wealth, is that they would have freedom, that money and power equals freedom.
But in a lot of ways, it's not.
You are a slave to a master.
The master is whoever is the dynastic family ruler.
Whoever is the shock caller of the family really is the one who is going to orchestrate many of the different mechanisms of their life and how that's going to live in that system of oppression.
Weighs on the person and it burdens them so heavily.
Even like my family had different estates out in New York predominantly.
The Reynolds family has a lot more prestige on the eastern side of the United States.
And the estates that they have, you would watch them become this burden.
to them because they weren't able to have the freedom of life that they really wanted to live but they had to live in this kind of theatrical realm of engaging with society.
They had to play a part all the time.
They were living a masquerade perpetually and they were managing the perceptions of the people around them or how they were perceived by others and so they never had the same level of freedom and autonomy that other people I think really believed that's what I could have if only I were rich.
Yeah.
I get the impression you wouldn't want to marry into one of these families.
I don't think people have any idea what they're marrying into to begin with because there's a lot of falsehood.
It's a lot of lies and cover-up and people are so deeply compromised.
There's so many...
There's so much baggage in the closet that nobody wants to talk about.
So marrying into a family like this, people don't generally have a real working understanding of what it is that comes as a package.
My wife had no concept of what we were really getting into because I buried these aspects of my past.
I didn't want to open it up and ever look at it again.
So once we did have children, the cost of going into the trust fund and being able to access the wealth and power was that we were going to have to give parental rights to my family to have access to my daughter to do what they wanted with her for a few weeks out of every year.
That was the cost to get into the family at that point.
She was not from this world.
She didn't want anything to do with that.
And so it created a massive war between me and my wife and then the rest of my family because we didn't want anything to do with that, nor we didn't want to pass our children through the fires of abuse and trauma.
Yeah, I can imagine.
Well, to what extent do these families mix with the cattle or do they mostly spend their time just hanging out with other bloodline families?
Well, by and far, the majority of their social circle is people that are already interconnected in that relationship.
Real money is really exchanged through introductions and relationships in that world.
And so they are not intentionally associating with most normalized people.
People that are in a very different class.
The idea of classism that's been introduced, it's been guarded very heavily, especially in the upper echelons of society.
Whereas I think there's an idea that in our society, classes don't really exist the same way.
But there's still a very heavy emphasis of that so that you don't go outside of the gentry.
If you don't go outside of that and go into the peasants, it's still something that exists inside of it.
However, it's shaped into a different lens or it's maybe presented in a different way where people don't have that same haughtiness.
But internally, it's still absolutely reprobate in its own way to be continually insinuating yourself into these other classes.
And especially with those that are much more from a Luciferian ideology, people that have adapted this idea that they are priests inside of this royal seed line, and they have to guard the purity of it.
There's an intense amount of ritual.
There's an intense amount of abstinence from different things that can contaminate you in order for you to be pure, ritually pure.
So there's all these different little caveats that are associated with it that are very peculiar and very strange unless you're a part of that and have already broached into that with familiarity.
So when were you first conscious of being different?
When did you realize that you were not like the other American kids at school or you saw on TV, that you were kind of part of this weird class of super rich?
Well, it's hard to say really when.
Aha.
Maybe not until middle school where I really had a better understanding of how different it was because I started having some maybe more actual friends who kind of shared with me what their life was like.
In the beginning phases of my life that we lived in object My family, a part of the ways of making an empire is you can either buy into the trust fund or you can go and build your own and show that you can have a child exploitation ring and build your own blackmail and corruption campaign and prove your worth to the family.
That's one of the ways they do that.
They will absolutely abstain any form of money.
They'll look like poor people, middle class people.
That's where a lot of them will hide.
They'll have access to...
Untold wealth with a phone call, but they themselves won't have the money.
And so I grew up inside of a family that didn't have overt wealth whatsoever.
Now with a phone call, as I got older in life, anytime there was an issue, my family could pick up a phone call and have somebody flown in on a Learjet to do a medical procedure.
There was these experiences that were definitely abnormal.
And those started to accumulate overall later on into my life into where once my great my great grandfather, who is one of the presidents, the American Society of Civil Engineering, when he was a very significant abuser in my life.
And there was a trade made so that my dad could get the wealth from him by selling my body to him as a young man, as a teenager.
And when he died, though, there was this opulent, extravagant amount of wealth that came into my family that that changed that made it very obvious.
That we were no longer part of that that level in that class.
But up until that point, the obscurity and the way of of hiding the child exploitation, the trafficking that was going on was to hide in poverty, was to hide in middle class society.
That and that's still something that's adopted by those that are in a much more criminalistic side of the organization.
So when when did they start sexually abusing you with?
Was it very young?
I mean, as young as I can remember.
Oh, I see.
And did you sort of assume that this went on in all families?
As far as I knew, that was normal.
I thought that's what grandpas do to their grandsons.
I thought that's what uncles...
To me, I believed sincerely.
I thought it was reality for everyone.
And on my mother's side of the family, they operate all of this network, this child network, down in Lake Havasu City, Arizona, which was really founded and created to be a place where perverts, people that had sexual proclivities with children, wanted to be around them and associated with them, but not to be outcasts and not to be...
So they created a culture of it down in the 1960s in Lake Havasu City, Arizona.
Robert P. McCulloch worked with the designers from Disneyland to build a little play place, and I mean with interlocking underground tunnels for photography studios, videography studios, and a lot of the chambers that were necessary to facilitate child abuse into an area where they brought the London Bridge over stone by stone from the city of London.
And they brought over a chariot, one of the actual chariots that were utilized in a lot of the, you know, as what you guys, I may have lost you for a second.
Maybe you can hear me.
Can you hear me now?
Yes, I lost you for a moment there.
No worries.
You were just shipping over London Bridge.
They brought over the London Bridge, and originally the London Bridge, for those that may not really understand it, it was the sing-song rhyme about the London Bridge is falling down, is falling down.
They practiced what's called enurement in the bridge, which is where they would open up cavities in the bridge and entomb people alive into the stones and sacrifice them to the city.
In that the stones of the foundation of the city itself, the ruling elite, would have their power in place.
And if they could get people to sacrifice their own children, the belief was that they had total and complete control over the population.
And so every so often, this ritual was performed over and over again.
This is in the mainstream history of the London Bridge.
When they excavated the bridge and brought it over here, they found bodies of women, children, and men inside the stones of the bridge.
Further, they used even Napoleon's cannons.
They melted down Napoleon's cannons to make the lampstands.
They really made it like a ritual object, a thing for doing ritual ceremonies in.
So when Robert P. McCulloch brought that over here to the city of Lake Havasu, The city of London itself, the proper city of London, purchased that actual island.
They made an island.
They own that island.
It's a sovereign territory, much as the city of London or the Vatican or District of Columbia is a sovereign territory that is leased out by the city of Lake Havasu, the state of Arizona, to the city of London.
And so this created this legal playground for them to practice.
Criminal activity that gave them plausible deniability.
And on the other side of the island is an Indian reservation.
And so there was a lot of criminal activity that would center around the city, and they made it a retirement community so old men could be around young boys constantly.
And it was perceived to be normal that this is just grandsons and granddads and whatever else.
But really, that literal structure had inside these chambers places where all this abuse would take place and this ritual magic was done.
So there was this culture that got created down in Lake Havasu, and that's the business, the family business that was used where videos and pictures were taken so that compromise could be used later on in somebody's life if they wanted to control or manipulate that person.
So I grew up being a part of that almost as the battery.
That fueled a lot of that kingdom.
My perception of the abuse was that this is how life is.
This is life.
This is normal.
This is reality.
And the people that I was around reinforced that.
And so it was a very closed circle.
And whenever the physical manifestations of the abuse got too severe or people started perceiving and noticing a lot of the telltale signals, my family would pick up and move.
Or they would move me out of schools and move me to a different school or put me into homeschool or move us around the state.
So there was this constant destabilization in my life, which was very effective at reinforcing this ethos of this is all that reality is for you.
You say there were signs.
I mean, did your teachers notice, do you think?
Some of them did.
Not many, but some of them did.
There was a time where I had a, you know, when I was little, I had an accident, peed myself in class.
And when she went to the bathroom to try to clean me up, she saw signs of abuse and didn't know exactly what was going on.
But soon I was pulled out of that school.
So instead of really anything more substantive coming from it, it would just disappear me to somewhere else.
And why do you think it is that elites, I mean, that's not really the best word for it, but why do these people, why are they so into child sex?
It's on one side, it's literally sex.
Their religion to a lot of them.
It's actually their religion.
And I know for those that don't adhere to a spiritual view of the world, that's hard to understand.
But they literally believe it's a spiritual power that is given to them.
A refueling of their physical body.
That they get more powerful.
They literally get younger.
They believe these things sincerely.
That this is how they grow in power.
And on the other side of it, there's a practical reality that if they want to stay in the club, if they want to stay in this mutual blackmail society, much in the same way that mutually assured destruction is utilized as forms of nuclear deterrence, that we all will agree we're not going to fire off the nuclear weapons because we know you'll retaliate and do the same.
Similarly, in these circles, that's how blackmail is ensuring everybody goes along to get along and nobody goes outside of the status quo too far and the agendas are able to be maintained and guarded.
But there is a deep conviction.
And a deep lust that they have to incestuously abuse their children.
And in a much more predominant way, a grandfather to the grandson tended to be, in my experiences, what was played out the most readily.
And it was a power and a dominance and a control that gave them this fiending, this obsession.
But on the other side, it was used as a tool to psychologically manipulate and traumatize and then control the shattered mind of the child going forward to create a handler and a victim relationship.
That was a key tenet was that there was a – it's called trauma bonding, that they would literally abuse the child, and then when the child would dissociate or go into this dissociative state, that when they came out of it as the rescuer, they were the hero.
Their abusers were the ones who presented as the hero, as the helper, as the comforter, and they would be the ones that then were bonded to them.
And so it's a very similar way of how a handler of a dog, a canine, breaks the dog and then bonds to the dog, and the dog is subservient and submissive to it.
So there is an interlocking play between a religious ideology, a carnal lust side of it, and then a physical, practical side of what's utilized going forward to have a loyal, obedient slave, but that beliefs are kind of free.
What they did in the MKUltra experiments, wasn't it?
They used trauma to create fractured personalities that they could then control.
So presumably you had different personalities?
There'd be different personae that weren't aware of each other or what?
There's definitely dissociative states and different personalities that were hard built into me early on in my life.
And the origins in the families, especially in the religious, the people that believe they have the divine right to rule through priesthood, those that believe that they are the carriers of the serpent seed and have this right to rule, they've been practicing this old religion, this old form of ritual abuse.
For a long time, for hundreds of years and then into the thousands of years, that this has been one of the secrets that the families have guarded over time is the systemic traumatization and abuse of children to shatter their minds and then to imbue them with different personalities or different spirits, demons, to control them that this has been one of the secrets that the families have This has been weaponized and utilized within the families generationally for eons.
What changed in a lot of ways, James, was in the 1930s and 40s was the scientific examination through different occult sciences.
A lot of things like in Yosef Mengele and a lot of the people that were doing human experimentations during World War II began to systematize a way of doing this.
Make a scientific method out of it.
How can we take anybody, whether they're a child, dissociative identity disorder, the splitting of the mind and creating these altered personalities, tends to be most effective between the age of conception and seven or eight years old.
After that, it's much harder to create these states, these trauma states and these dissociative states and program them.
But a lot of what the work that was being pioneered in the camps of...
Was trying to find a way to engineer this so it could be replicated with adults, with men, with women, with elderly.
And so much of that research, so much of that data, that was what was seized and collected by the United States, by Great Britain, even by the Soviets.
And that's why when you go into the 1940s and 50s, you see these clandestine operatives and these different agencies, government agencies, experimenting, doing human experimentation.
To try to create it, even in North Korea and in China.
They were all trying to create what was called a spy who didn't know they were a spy.
That's how it was couched to the public, to the masses, was to create a spy that didn't know they were, even when they're tortured, even when they're traumatized.
They'll never divulge the information because they really believe they're just a soccer mom who goes home at night and has a regular family, doesn't believe any of these things are her reality, but is...
On another side, when she switches personalities and goes out at nights, she's sending back information to military intelligence and she's coordinating these strategic offenses.
But has no conscious awareness of that.
But those were where it got really systematized and brought into the public domain and left just the families.
It got away from just the families having that secret way of doing business, and it began to get branched out.
And so now we're three, four, five generations in where all of this type of abuse and mind control has been taking place for decades, and we're seeing just these breakouts of mental disorders where there are breakdowns of these fragmented persons.
I mean, Britney Spears, I suppose, would be the obvious one that comes to mind.
That's a very interesting example of it.
There's quite a few different people who show a lot of those telltale symptoms.
Nicki Minaj is another one who talks openly about her different personalities.
These people are willing to – they'll say it.
A lot of them will say it and they'll discuss it, but...
But most of the population has not been introduced to an understanding, an accurate understanding of what are dissociative personalities?
What is this mind control beyond just this ethereal, conspiratorial idea?
But how is this practically played out in reality?
How do trauma counselors work with individuals to try to bring healing or integration and restoration to it?
it.
But instead, I spent 10 years in the fields of psychology, got my degree in it, trying to figure out how to put pieces of brokenness back together.
But inside the field of psychology, the vast majority don't want to address this area.
They don't want to look at it.
They want to simply say this is not reality.
Or it's very rare.
Let's not talk about DID or multiple personality disorder like it used to be called.
But when you look at the actual data of what actually is taking place on the ground, we're seeing this Outbreak of it everywhere.
And only those that are really well-equipped to how to navigate it are able to really make it a positive, beneficial impact into that arena.
Otherwise, most survivors of these traumas have nowhere to turn to.
And so it's that perpetual reinstation.
Reinstilling that you can't get out of the cult.
No matter if you're going to go to somebody and try to tell them all this stuff, they're going to think you're crazy.
They'll think you're crazy.
You're a lunatic.
So there's no way out for so many of them.
And then when you have the power and the managers and the handlers of wealth involved on top of that, it becomes incredibly difficult for these individuals to get out of it.
I had an actress, a very famous actress who's from London, who I was driving around on a trip, and she shared with me about being...
A person, like a spiritual, like a prostitute to all these different people, not sexually, but just that they would control her and manipulate her and switch her into these different personalities.
She was openly discussing this with me, but that was because I opened up and shared about my experiences.
is she suddenly had someone she could talk to about this, but that she literally described the individuals that controlled her as vampires, that consumed her and ruled her, and she had no freedom.
And this is with one of those individuals in the car who was so checked out, he didn't care.
But this was like her reality, her absolute brokenness was that she had no way out.
They owned everything of her.
They owned her completely.
And it was that feeling of true slavery, modern-day slavery, that reinforces their inability to ever escape, There is no way out of this.
Do you think what you're saying applies to all top movie stars and pop stars?
Are there any who are immune?
There's no way I could ever generalize it to every single individual that's out there.
I always have hopes that there's those that didn't enter in through those gates.
But I can't ever generalize to such a broad spectrum of every individual out there.
Sure.
But if you had to speculate, would you say that the majority are mind-controlled?
I would believe that the majority of those that are in those upper echelons indeed are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's certainly what everything I've researched suggests to me.
How does the arrangement work?
You've got your handler who has abused you and then become your friend at the same time by being your apparent escape route from this.
And he controls you.
He sort of runs you like his personal automaton.
How does it work?
Well, it depends on maybe...
Exactly who specifically you're talking about, what handler.
When I got into more of the...
In your case, tell me about your story.
I saw the way out of this.
What I perceived to be the most effective way of resisting or fighting back was through violence.
Was through violence.
Was wanting to find a way to stop perverts from...
Just predating on other children.
That was like my deepest desire was to try to stop it.
And so that sense of justice is really where the mechanism of control and manipulation came later on in my life.
And so a lot of the handlers had military attaches.
They were really interconnected with the military complex.
And so the relationships that would get cultivated with those handlers were ones that were very much promising me a future, offering me a carrot, offering me a carrot of freedom, of a way to get out of this autonomy, that I could have some freedom and the ability to fight back and pick my targets or go after these perverts and hunt them down.
And that, to me, was what I desired the most.
And so on a regular...
Day-to-day basis, though, at home, it's much more with the handler of your father.
The relationship is much more keeping check on making sure that the front personality is what's presenting to the world.
That is where the vast majority of the time for the normal handler is spent, is making sure that the other personalities that are carrying all this...
Trauma and all of these secrets aren't coming out and interacting with other people.
Or if they are, they're very quickly being reprogrammed and switched.
So there can be reprogramming sessions where you're sitting down in front of a computer and they're reading you these prompts and these things into your ear while they're hypnotizing you.
Really, it's just a better way of saying it.
It's a lot more hypnotic, neurolinguistic programming that's being done to make sure that the personalities are coming back into straights.
Or there's literal cards that are read that have been when you were...
programmed are what are used for the programming so those are exactly what's read over you to try to bring the other personalities back out of you that otherwise the vast majority of the time though it looks like just a normal relationship with a friend a mentor uh your family member otherwise it just looks completely normal
but when things get out of hand or or things start to get out of control then you'll see these somewhat odd behaviors or or strange like massaging and pressure points and and touchings being done and that's the kind of stuff that you can see when you watch handlers with celebrities or handlers with some of these folks who are doing these types of things to trigger and to pro to bring them back you'll see those kinds of things in in the public But otherwise it looks like a normal relationship.
The handler is brought into someone's life often when the person is in a very difficult situation, a very traumatic environment, and then they're brought in as the rescuer.
And so that's how a relationship comes in, seemingly as a coincidental exchange of information, but later those people become bonded to them, and they become their handler later on for the next iteration of that person's life.
I just had a flashback while you were telling me that stuff.
I used to be a journalist in the mainstream media, and one of the things I used to do was do interviews with movie stars.
And I remember once...
I did an interview with an actress called Jennifer Jason Leigh.
I don't know whether you remember her, but this woman sat in on the interview with us, and she was knitting throughout the interview.
And I was thinking, well, why is this woman there?
You know, all I'm going to ask Jennifer is questions about what was it like pretending to be this person or that person in her latest movie.
I was going to...
You know, give her these softball questions.
But now what you're saying makes sense.
It probably would have been her handler.
Indeed.
Even that gal who I was driving her up into the mountains, the man who was with her was just background noise almost entirely.
Like, had no real reason to be there to be with her.
They weren't intimate partners of any kind, but he accompanied her every single place that she went.
He lived us alongside her all the time.
And this can be someone who's presented as a bodyguard or as a manager oftentimes as well as this is our personal assistant.
Each of those individuals tends to be the main touch point as their handler and is maintained that way.
The same thing happens in a relationship with people that are doing espionage where a lot of the mind-controlled individuals go into, which is espionage or counter espionage, where they will have literally their handler is the one they go and report to.
And so there's a side of that personality that will tell them everything that's going on.
Like a reporter will divulge all the intimate details of everything that's going on and they're examining whether or not their system is online, whether or not they're still maintaining the status quo or do they need some more in-depth reprogramming.
You know, Kanye West had a very obvious breakdown in his programming and began to discuss openly these secrets, began to talk about it and divulge it.
And you'll see he very quickly was gathered up and shoved into a particular type of hospital that brought him out.
And he was in a dissociative fugue state with his hair bleached and completely different individual came out of that hospital.
So you'll see these tune-ups that will happen over time.
But initially, there's a contact individual who is always present, who is always keeping dabs on them.
And that can be a spouse, a partner that's in their life as well.
Yes, I was going to ask you about that.
Because presumably, people are given spouses to...
I mean, for example, Russell Brand and Katy Perry.
That was weird.
Do you think he might have been her handler?
Boy, that is quite a question.
There's videos of him doing stuff, you know, doing sort of handlery stuff.
What it looks like.
It's entirely...
I haven't investigated it too much to know, but I'm sure there's some...
I'd have to go and look at it, you know, to see what's there.
Unfortunately, there is, at a lot of those celebrity, very front line, I mean...
Katy Perry, any of those that's on the absolute front edge of mainstream media is people that are super suspect in regards to their autonomy, whether or not they have any of it whatsoever.
And so if they have spouses that are connected to it, and they themselves are also powerful people on the show stage, you'll see a lot of that.
But he himself individually shows...
Obvious signs of his own trauma and manipulation from others, but so do most celebrities.
So it's not enough to just look at that evidence of itself, but to see how they physically interacted with each other would be something to help examine and make a better, you know, diagnostic of it.
So you were obviously super bright as a child.
Were you sort of talent spotted for great, great work by your controllers?
The intelligence testing and personality testing starts taking place very, very early on.
As soon as a child is able to even be able to answer anything, they're beginning to pattern them and examine it.
Now, in the families, part of why there's a lot of interbreeding is to try to boost the genetic pool as much as possible.
I mean, it's a form of their own...
They practice their own form of eugenics in the way that they control the population, but they themselves interbreed with the best, the best stock.
And so part of that is to try to create the highest intelligence as they can because when a person is shattered, when the mind is shattered, part of that intelligence is broken off.
And so if the individual is not...
Very bright to begin with.
You may not be able to fracture them as much.
Otherwise, they turn towards mental retardation.
And so even in our families, I have family members that are mentally retarded.
They say they broke bad.
When they went through their first trauma and bonding, they came out of it vegetables, and they stay that way more or less the rest of their life.
And so part of the desire is to have as high of an intelligence child to begin with so that they can maintain the best broad spectrum of it.
But early on, when the shattering began to take place, much of the more anything that was noticeable or...
Excellent.
Anything that demonstrated talent was secured away on the other side of that cognitive wall, not my front face personality.
My presenting personality was not designed to stand out.
It was designed to be background noise continually, that there was nothing noticeable because they don't want any spotlight on you when you're young.
They don't want anybody to notice you.
You learn how to be a gray chameleon that just exists and is never standing out.
Early on in schooling, I had some aptitudes that were very high, and teachers wanted to put me into different grades and skip multiple grades.
But as soon as that happened, I would change schools.
And after that, I was taught how to take tests to get just below...
Good and excellent.
Never to have that stand out.
So I'd learn to take tests specifically, sit down and take all kinds of different tests and learn how to get specific scores on the tests.
So that's what was trained, like how to not be anything so noticeable to get picked up by anybody else because I was their asset.
They didn't want to share me.
That was not something they wanted to get picked off by anybody else.
And so they wanted to control that aspect of my life.
It really wasn't until later on when I got free from the family and free from the occult, That I was able to get healing and restoration and really develop my own protocols for detoxification and natural medicine to try to heal myself.
And so much of that came back to me through reintegration and restoration of my mind.
That's when I finally felt like I had my brain back.
Otherwise, I felt like a drugged idiot most of the time.
So they were sequestering all your special skills for your behind-the-scenes personality.
What were they training you for?
Initially, it was to be a toy for perverts is what a lot of it was used on early on.
But then over time, it became somebody who could capture and document and blackmail somebody else.
learning how to use videography and photography to capture people in those acts.
and then it developed into where it was Predation upon perverts, so hunting people, using silent killing methods.
There was a man who came from the SAS who began to teach me the art of silent killing, and his mentor and attache before him was a man named Fairbairn Sykes, who taught a lot of this art form of killing to soldiers in World War II and before that, a long time.
But this is what I got weaponized towards, was learning how to kill or to Or to plant evidence on people to make it look like they were a part of a crime that they weren't or to try to get that person to compromise themselves or the people around them to change corporate dealings.
So that's where I got moved into for a lot of that shadowy work.
And who are the targets in this kind of situation?
Generally family members, people that are part of the occult, other members of the occult.
You mean you were the kind of internal police of your own family?
I wasn't the police.
I was more the executioner side of it.
I didn't have the investigatory side of rendering judgments on that side.
It was generally at the point that it was given to me when an individual was assigned to me.
All of that had already been decided.
I just got a target package on someone to go after.
And for me, it was easy to manipulate because I just needed to see evidence this person had been a pervert to others on children or that they were participants complicit in covering up those types of crimes.
If they were the ones that were willing to conceal that, cover it up, and they could show me evidence of that, I wanted to go after them.
I wanted to hunt them.
So you were effectively taking revenge on what had happened to you in your childhood.
You were taking out child abusers.
To me, it was revenge, but it was deliverance to others.
I've seen some of these people abuse child after child after child after child.
They never stop.
And so to me, it was a way of saving the lives and the innocence of others.
As much as it was revenge at times, it was very much revenge because I personally had an experience with this individual.
And I wanted that.
You mean you took out somebody who'd sexually abused you?
Yeah.
Not often, but a few times.
But I mean...
Not being flippant, but it must be a pretty target-rich environment, given that everyone in that milieu is involved with child abuse.
I mean, how do they decide which ones to target and which ones to ignore?
I would say probably the business side of the equation.
They could tell me that this person's been out speaking the secrets and they could tell me all kinds of stuff.
At this point in my life, it's hard for me to really know what the real reasoning was why people were being eliminated.
I know why I was personally sent after them, but...
I really believe a lot more of it was there was something going on behind the scenes between individuals.
There's a dispute.
There was a feud.
Or somebody was threatening to not agree to a deal that they wanted to get expedited.
And so that could have been it.
Because there's times when, too, you're going in and you're making it look like somebody was prostituting a child.
And that's just you're leaving the evidence there to set that person up to where it looked like this is what was taking place there and the man is unconscious and you're just drugging somebody and setting them up, taking pictures and then leaving.
Other times it was definitely absolute elimination of that individual, killing of that person.
But it varied along the scale on a paradigm of what they wanted to get done.
Sometimes you're just cutting someone's ring finger off.
So that they can't be, and for those that are not a part of maybe like Luciferian or Freemasonic cults, a ring lord or somebody that can carry the ring has this right to keep the secrets.
And so you would dislocate their finger and then shove your blade through there and cut that finger off and take their ring and bring that back.
And it would be a witness to the other members of the brotherhood that that person is no longer trustworthy or safe to be a ring bearer in the family.
So there's different things that were done depending on what...
Crime they'd committed, what betrayal they'd committed, or who they'd badmouthed.
It could be all kinds of petty things that really instigated that action.
So, do all the families, all the kind of...
Because I imagine that the world is like a criminal conspiracy between a number of really powerful, rich, established families that trace their bloodlines back to the beginning.
Is that roughly how it works?
I think that's a pretty accurate way of describing things.
And do, for example, does the DuPont family take care of the DuPont family and the Collins family take care of the Collins family?
Is that how it works?
You have an internal regulation member in the family.
Their full-time job is to maintain public image on one side.
To maintain the public image of what's being perceived and to guard and protect it.
You've got a fixer who goes in and delivers – DuPont had a very famous individual who was arrested and tried committing incestuous abuse on a child and his own daughter and was given basically a remediation of a sentence by the judge saying that he's so powerful and he comes from such a – well, prison would be too rough on him.
So we're going to just go ahead and let him go.
So that's behind the scenes.
The black book is brought out.
You know, where favors are used as the currency in order to exchange, all right, we're going to have you basically wash this person out of the judicial system, and we're going to take care of all these other things for you on the other side of it.
That's a fixer.
That's their job.
And each family has their own individual guardian of the family.
Then you have somebody who is a safeguarder of the secrets themselves.
This is the person who literally deals with the data side of it, and they're the ones who control much of the secret side of it.
of it so they can dispense out those files uh as needed as as currency to pay off these different favors and cash in those things you know like turn over the tapes so that this person no longer has the blackmail evidence against them that's how it works with a lot of the families i don't know that every single individual family has somebody that's their their full-time job but that's the ones that i've seen here more so in the stateside and um how many families are there um There's many dozens of families that are out there.
The true power brokers tend to be concentrated in a couple dozen specifically that are really the most dynastically powerful ones in the world.
Then there's the priest class.
I always try to remind people there's a priest class that exists behind these individuals that does so much of the conjuring and controlling.
They believe they have spiritual mediums between this realm and the super powerful spirits in the other realm.
And so there's a spirit class and a priest class that also interacts with these families that's integral into it.
Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that, but in a moment— I just want to get to sort of the bottom of the structure.
I mean, is there a hierarchy of families?
So, for example, would...
The black nobility, the papal bloodlines, the ones...
Yeah, the Venetians.
Yeah, the Venetians.
Are they more powerful than the others, or how does it work?
I would say the Venetians, the black nobility of the Venetians tend to be some of the most powerful families that have been around generationally.
And those that go towards the Papacy and the Vatican tend to be some of the most integral shock callers in the world.
You do obviously have the Aldo Brandinis, the Medicis, all of those ones going back generationally before that.
But also you have the Far East and the Asian side with the Lee family, the dragon bloodlines that also are their own dynastic empirical rulers that go back millennia as well.
And so here in the Americas, the ones that get a lot of the press as Illuminati families, it's generally a misnomer.
From those that really have some significant power, a guy by the name of Johnny Cerucci wrote and has written, he's a great historian, has written many books on the issue and he discusses.
Oh, that sounds good.
Yes, you'd really appreciate his history.
I mean, there were some names that come up, like Orsini.
It's pretty powerful.
Absolutely.
I mean, say you were at one of your mansions in, I don't know, well, Arizona or wherever.
Where are most of the Reynolds sort of properties?
Well, they were spread out in the East Coast, in the Southwest, in Arizona and Colorado.
Not necessarily exactly mansions in the same way.
Most of those got sold off in the 90s.
There's a huge sell-off of a lot of the properties back in the 90s.
But the other side of the Reynolds family are stationed mostly in North Carolina, Virginia, and that tends to be where the other side of the Reynolds are.
Winston-Salem, they're the ones who built Winston cigarettes, the camel cigarettes and all that.
That tends to be out in that area.
So some of those properties are turned into living museums that people can go and tour.
They're different now.
You mean that most of these people fly so below the radar, they don't even have ritzy properties that you would identify?
Many of them don't, no.
Many of them don't.
They do try to – many of them try to intentionally live in obscurity.
They really do.
Now, there's some that want to be on the front page, but you've got to remember that the overarching structure is to insulate and to build as much protection between themselves and their inner workings.
And so it's not well known.
Like you can have a guy – we just had – William Rothschild just died over here in the United States in a house fire, and he lived in almost complete obscurity to everyone else.
He's not on the news.
He's not out with a celebrity.
There's a power broker...
that exists to insulate Family members from the press to insulate them from renown, from notability.
And so they might live in a multi-million dollar mansion, but it's not going to be the most opulent mansion.
It's not going to be the Grand Hall Estates.
You can have some of those, but the people that are actually, you might only have one son who actually lives and controls that estate because he is so dialed in.
He can handle the press.
He can handle and interact.
He's been chosen and selected to be on that front face of the family, the representative of the family.
Otherwise, there's many other members of the family that nobody ever sees.
That's not going to make it onto the news.
Those people are not as controlled in the same or not as presentable to the public as the bearer of the bloodline.
And so they're generally relegated to moderate obscurity because of that as a means of protecting the family image.
And do you have a name for yourselves?
I mean, for this group of families, what do you call yourselves?
I call them the family for that reason.
It's a mafia.
It's really a mafia.
That's why they call it this.
The old religion is the way I describe the religious ideology that's attached to them.
But otherwise, I call them the family because that is how it's introduced to you.
That's how it's reinforced.
You would go and meet different people and they would be an uncle to you.
They'd be a cousin to you.
They'd be an aunt to you.
Everyone is described as this loose familial association as a means of they're in the club.
But it's not.
It was literally called the family.
And can you always tell when someone's in the club?
Do you give each other signs or is it obvious?
Is their manner distinctive or how does it work?
There's not a way you can always tell.
It takes time.
People can reveal themselves later on.
They can divulge secrets to you that show you that they're a part of it.
There's gestures that are associated with it, but there's also a lot of symbolism.
There's a lot of iconography that can be distributed back and forth between it.
My family had a...
Heraldic symbols and crests can be utilized.
Rings can be utilized in order to communicate that you're a part of it.
Otherwise, there's also scars and burn marks that are left on family members in discrete areas that can be revealed to show that you have fidelity to a different family branch as well.
My family had this circle with an X that was burned upon it.
This was our...
The mark of the beast is a way that they saw it.
Yeah.
My family had this affinity with this smiley face, upside-down smiley face that was also imbued upon, and so I was burned into my forearm early on in my life.
That was a mark that associated me with a branding of a pervert, I mean a pedophile.
What's the upside-down smiley face?
If you take a lighter and burn it upside down, you get a smiley face with two eyes.
Oh, yeah, you do.
That was what was utilized.
But there's also a very clear distinction on not damaging the product, too.
I didn't know if that was just simply his perversion and then his bonding or trying to bond, but it was a big deal trying to clean that up and get that healed up so that it wasn't as noticeable.
But otherwise, this circle with an X, I literally had a coin, a pass coin.
That was utilized that I could go to somebody's house that was in the family and show them that token, which had a circle and an X on it, and they would get me in and take care of me or get me what I needed.
It was a way of being able to know that I'm part of the club, I'm part of the family, and that they would take care of me and look after me.
So that PATH coin is used.
Early on is a form of kind of a totem in your magical working, but otherwise it can become just a way of getting around like a passport.
And when you were being trained by your SAS guy and things, I mean, was a lot of your day devoted to this?
Were you doing sort of martial arts and stuff, or was it just more stealth stuff?
More so at night, not as much during the day.
Most of the activities took place at night.
And the type of martial arts was much more, it was called gutter fighting, was a technique that he pioneered more so that he came out with.
But a lot of that was just learning the art of blending in and learning how to masquerade, learning how to play a part and manipulate the target's perceptions of you so that you could get past their guard and eliminate them in a very...
Very fast and very efficient way as silently as possible.
So the intentional learning how to be physically silent when you're doing a horrific act or being a...
Being hurt physically.
You're being hurt or abused and you're having to fight back and learning how to stay silent in the act of that.
So learning things like the garrote and the dagger and the dart, learning how to make poisons, those were all integral parts of that.
And that's why that side of more intelligence was brokered into that side of me.
Well, so how did you kill people mostly?
A dagger was my predominant tool.
And what?
Cutting throats or what?
Stabbing in the kidney is a very effective way to paralyze the body, and then it locks the body up and basically makes it motionless, and then you drain them completely as fast as possible.
So subclavicle arteries are one of the effective ways to do that.
Cutting of the throat, it's more often you just go sideways laterally and then cut out as a way to do that more rapidly.
The rot is used more.
Quietly, though.
Because most, I mean, well, I think we're all built, we're all born with a sort of inbuilt horror of killing somebody.
How did you sort of get over that?
The systematic desensitization to death starts really early on, and I began to see people being...
Physically abused and tortured and then killed regularly.
Regularly to where it became normal to see it.
And to me, death was this promissory note of release, of freedom, a final note of freedom.
That's how I saw death.
Death was the only escape that any of us had.
That's how I perceived death.
And so that came from physically seeing those things.
Also, there was projectors where they would play videos of it, snuff porn, of that happening on a regular basis until my first acts of killing were actually where I was being a part of that environment.
But to me, at that point in my life, I had gotten so cauterized to normal human reactions.
To these types of things, that it was as natural as breathing.
It was as normal as a part of everyday life processes.
And to me, it was a part of life that was integral.
And it was the final promise that you could give to somebody was to give them a dignified death, was to give them a righteous end.
And that's where it was a finality that was needed in my life.
So death and killing became something that was...
When I finally got to come out of the closet, when I finally got to go out and hunt, when I finally got to express myself and have excellence of precision of care, of fluidity of motion, of balance and precision of strike.
To me, it was when there was a finally coming out and being able to dominate and express excellence, and it was rewarded.
Whereas otherwise, I was mocked and abused and belittled and treated like trash otherwise.
So it was a really perverse relationship that got built into me early on where that's where there is brilliance.
That's where there is excellence demonstrated.
So in the movies, quite often there's a moment where the person who's going to be killed realizes he's going to be killed.
And, you know, a look crosses his eyes and he starts begging for mercy.
I imagine that in most cases you got to them before they reached that point.
They didn't even know it.
There's times when they do know it.
There's times when you've got to extract information or you need to communicate with them.
So it's not always that you just have the silent kill.
So when there are situations like that, that's where so much of the installation early on of the searing off of This connectedness to the other human, the other person, is so far gone that there's this dead stare.
There's this emptiness.
It's like you're a shell.
You're like a demon of death to this person.
There's nothing there emotionally connected.
There's no relational connection to a person in that sense.
By and far, there is no understanding of what's happening or going to happen until it's already done.
It's already over.
You've already injected enough air.
You've already injected them with enough potassium that the process is over.
And anything that's happening after the fact is muted by it.
So they're dead on their feet if they are staring at you or they're trying to communicate or they're making noises.
All of that stuff starts to depreciate very, very quickly once it's already over.
This is a weird question, but have you got any thoughts on this ritual killing technique which seems to be used on...
Who's that?
Anthony Bourdain, the chef, the TV chef.
He supposedly hanged himself in his hotel bedroom, in his bathroom, I think.
With a, I don't know, a towel?
You don't hang yourself from a doorknob in your...
Is that a known ritual murder technique?
Well, in silent killing in particular, if you're trying to go after a target, there's a few different ways that you're sent after them.
You can be sent after them in such a way that it needs to be a known, obvious death, like a natural death.
That is very obvious that this person died of natural causes and there would be no investigation brought into that.
There's other times where you're sent in to do a killing Where you're going to kill the person, but then you're going to stage it to where it looks as if they killed themselves.
And then there's other times where you're going to kill them in such a way that it's so obviously violent and horrific that it was a murder.
And all these things, there's one that's called a message to the masses, which is where you're specifically killing them in such a state that those that are in the organization, in the family, will have an understanding that that's an inside job.
Leave it alone.
Leave it alone.
Don't do an investigation on it.
Don't touch it.
So like one of the messages to the masses would be cutting out a man's tongue and then impaling it on the dagger and then shoving it through the base of his jaw up into his roof of his mouth and into his brain.
Leaving that as the body is a message to the masses that this is a family job.
Don't touch it.
That was a way that that was done.
Otherwise, it'd be leaving certain rings or notes on the body or with the body as a way to do it.
But when somebody strangles somebody to death and then they want to make it look like a suicide, which is a very common way of offing people, they would then set it up in such a way that it's preposterous that the person killed themselves through this methodology.
But we want it to be going down or plausibly deniable that this person wasn't actually executed by somebody else's hand.
So that's where there's specialists who literally that's their main bread and butter.
That's what they do is they set people up to look like suicided.
And they themselves are the one doing the suicide.
They even have an entire contraption for making it look like somebody shot themselves where they rig their arm up and point it at their head at an angle that's consistent with them.
They'll use their own gun.
I mean, they'll go to great lengths to make it.
Right.
So in that case, they'd have turned up, strangled him, and then arranged his body to set it up to where it looked like he strangled himself.
Right.
Or even accidentally, they'll make it look like it was some sadomasochistic kind of way as a way of shaming the person.
And it creates, even in the public masses, it makes people uncomfortable to think about that autoerotic asphyxiation as a means of suicide makes people uncomfortable.
So they add another layer to it when they want to shame the person in addition to it.
That's really interesting.
Did you not also get trained in kind of remote viewing and sort of psychic?
That was never really anything that I was gifted in.
I didn't have as much of the psychic kind of abilities in the same way.
I didn't have those proclivities, so that's not my experiences.
Does this stuff still lie buried within you?
If somebody said the trigger word, could you become this person again?
Or have you effectively erased all that now?
And really restoration and deliverance has freed me from that reality.
Early on, it was still something that happened.
It was still something that could happen, but I've gotten to a place in my life where it doesn't work like that anymore, and it's like I can see what it is they're trying to do or understand and identify it, or my wife can.
We'll see it and recognize what's being done or the triggering that's trying to be done, but part of that is a very deliberate prayer and deliverance that I have had from the King of Kings, Yeshua the Messiah, who's helped to set me free from that stronghold of triggering and abuse in my life and has given me a new purpose and a restoration, restoration so i haven't had to suffer from the the constant thing but the other side of it is i also intentionally relocated my family we we traveled all over the united states and kind of lived much more uh all over yeah
you know i published a book that made a lot of people upset and wanted to hunt and kill my family down and stalked us for many years of our life and still do at times but but on the other side of it we have been able to live a life of freedom and of restoration without having the constant overarch of of handlers and abusers in our life yeah well um...
You've taken the conversation on to Christianity and stuff, which is where I was going to move on to next.
I mean, it seems to me that there's a criminal element to these families, but also, as you've already said, there's a supernatural element.
I mean, isn't one of the other reasons that so many of these people practice sexual abuse of children is because that is the worst affront to God.
You know, there was nothing more innocent than a child.
So when you're sexually abusing a child, you are effectively annoying God, mocking God, showing your allegiance to his antagonist, to Satan.
Isn't that part of the deal as well?
A major component of it is...
Is in the spiritual realm that they are looking to refuel a battery, really refill this iniquity force.
This is what they call it.
They describe it as the force, and they use this kind of ideology or this descriptive language.
But that force and that power of will, their I-wills, that they use in these declarative Lucifer, Halal ben-Shahar.
He made these five I wills, these declarations that he will ascend to the Most High, that he will set himself up.
He made all these declarations, and it said that iniquity was found in him.
That's that lawlessness.
That's that anything that God ever said, this is what you should do with your life.
They invert it.
They twist it.
And that becomes for them a power bank, a source of darkness that fuels them.
And it becomes literally the method that they use to continue to enact And that power and that force is charged up, is recharged through rebellious acts, through doing these defiling things.
And you said it well when you said this is kind of the greatest affront.
The highest form of violence another person can commit on another person is sexual violence.
Sexual violence is the absolute demonstration of explicit violence, of taking from somebody their power, their ability, and you're destroying their And so when that is done to a child, that is the greatest form of spiritually charging that up.
Like Ali Esther Crowley and a lot of the Crowleyan magicians, they put in their texts, their rites and rituals.
To file a child before the age of nine years old is the goal, the absolute goal, that you will expose a child to every sexual act by the time of nine years old because they believe that that purity of that power diminishes after that age, that they're no longer as useful for it.
And so it is for them really a power that they believe gives them the ability to then do whatever they want on this world.
So, I read the Old Testament every evening.
There are lots of instances where God is saying to the children of Israel, do not mix with these tribes that sacrificed children to Moloch and Baal.
And it seems to me that the religion practiced by these old families, the old religion I suppose you'd call it, does involve a lot of child sacrifice as part of their ritual.
He literally said to Abraham, You can't go into the Promised Land because the iniquity of the Amorites is not full.
That's that power force I was describing to you earlier.
They had not filled up that cup yet to its entirety.
That happened hundreds of years later.
But by the time they entered into the land, the land was literally the stones of the buildings themselves.
They were practicing enurement.
They were sacrificing their children into the walls.
You can see this in archaeological evidence.
This isn't some hyperbole.
You can see that they have excavated these walls and found their children sacrificed into the walls of these buildings.
The very architecture of their fortresses was built upon these principles that this is where we can secure our power from is by practicing this old religion.
That's where the problem was is that Israel did go and learn those ways.
They began to follow after them because...
It is seductive.
There's a power of seduction that it's easy on one side of the equation to say that I would never fall into that, but you have no idea how powerful and explosively seductive it is when you see miracles in front of your face.
I've seen people drinking the blood of children and...
Literally them de-aging, looking like their wrinkles got taut and their skin got firm and they got lush and vigor and plump in their face.
I've seen that happen physically and there's many people who are drawn to that.
They're looking for immortality because at the end of the day, once you hit a certain level of wealth, the only thing you are stuck with everybody else in as equal is time.
It's time.
And this is why you will always see this inevitable shift towards immortality, towards pursuing this life, anything that will extend, artificial extension of life.
And what these old religions offer is that.
They offer an extension of your life.
They offer pushing off judgment.
And Yahuwah, our creator, was trying to warn his people, don't go after this stuff.
It defiles the land.
It literally said the Israelites at the end of it with Manasseh.
He was sacrificing his own children.
Solomon did it.
He burnt his children as a sacrifice as well.
When they go down that road, it says the land gets filled with blood, and that blood testifies and cries out, and the land will vomit the people out of it.
And ultimately, this is what's building.
You can see it in the substructure of our society.
The breakdown of morality, the destruction of people's identity is leading to this loss.
These people are lost, and they have no idea what to do, and violence is beginning to creep into the land where people are becoming consumed with violence because this perversion has begun to take place from our leaders, and it's trickling down into the rest of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When I talk to people about Christianity, I often say, look, you've got to realize this stuff actually works.
When you say your prayers, prayers are powerful.
God listens.
God answers you.
But in the same way, you've just stated it, actually.
That when you serve the forces of darkness, there are fringe benefits, aren't there?
I mean, when you sell your soul to Satan, you get to be Bob Dylan's career, you get to be Jimmy Page playing Stairway to Heaven.
I mean, this stuff works, doesn't it, for those who choose that path?
It's an absolute reality.
I entered into this covenant with this...
Principality of death, this prince of death when I was a young child who showed me he could physically give me supernatural strength so I could fight and kill.
You felt it, didn't you?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Power beyond anything.
Power beyond what most people can ever comprehend is real.
Like, I'm not saying the word power.
I'm saying, like, dynamite explosive power.
Like, a power that completely makes you superhuman.
It makes you more than a man.
And especially as a young child when you're abused, that was all I wanted.
Well, then there's other people in different positions who want the power, and power for a lot of them is wealth.
Power for them is connections and relationships, and they will offer you these opportunities.
It's not a joke that people are saying, I signed deals with the devil.
Katy Perry said this out of her own mouth.
There's a lot of these individuals say and admit they made deals with devils.
They're not talking about some pitchfork, you know, brunghorn.
Fiery, dragon-looking creature.
They're talking about people that are masquerading as these spirits that are masquerading in people form.
They're angels.
It specifically says they're shapeshifters.
The word used in the Greek is metaskidsmonzatoi.
He says, marvel not that Satan and his messengers transformed themselves of angels of light.
They're shapeshifters by their nature.
This is what gives them the means to masquerade in front of mankind as normal people.
But inwardly, they are a completely other thing.
They are not like us.
Supra intelligence, beyond your wildest understanding of intelligence and reasoning.
And they will come to you and they're master manipulators.
And they will offer you.
They know what you want.
They know what your deepest desires are.
They've been observing you keenly.
And they are able to offer you opportunities if you are willing to give them the Will.
Your will.
Your autonomy.
When you go through that exchange process, they will give you what you want.
What they will not tell you is the fine print, the caveat.
For being in that covenant with death, I lost my dreams.
I lost my sleep.
I was tormented at night.
Tormented at night.
And then when I wanted to be out of it, there was no peace.
There was no rest for me.
And that's literally like when I've read the scriptures.
Diligently for myself, I began to see what he's talking about.
There's no rest for the wicked.
This is why.
There is a requirement to refill that battery bank in the kingdom of darkness.
In the kingdom of righteousness, the Most High has no need for that.
He can give continually.
He can give the power of His Holy Spirit.
He can give the absolute working power of Him freely and not have to recharge it.
It doesn't work the same.
He gives without destruction at its end, whereas the kingdom of darkness will give it to you immediately, and then you're going to suffer all kinds of other consequences and side effects later on like we don't want to tell you in the fine print of the prescription drugs, whereas the Most High offers you the cure.
But it might come through the character development over the course of your life, and he'll get you to the place where you need to be to be successful in that regard, but he may not give it to you instantaneously.
But that's the two differences that's what's being offered.
One will offer you, oh, instantaneous gratification.
The other is going to offer you a life of suffering, but the development of righteousness in its end that will make you an amazing leader and capable individual.
But this is going to come through a whole different path, and most people just want it now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There seems to be quite a high premium on sacrificing your firstborn children or a close member of your family.
How does that work?
Well, there's...
I mean, even in 2 Kings, there's a description of the...
The king of Moab, who does that exact thing in order to defeat the children of Israel when he was about to lose, he took his firstborn son and sacrificed him on the wall, and it said a great wrath, a spiritual unleashing took place on his soldiers, and they drove back Israel.
What happens is there's a change in the order.
The birth order changes, and now there's a right that that...
Spirit has to be the generational spirit over that family, and that blood guilt goes on to the father, goes on to the mother, whoever did the act, goes on to the individual, and that is now this pool, that battery is very, very charged up and fueled up.
More of my experiences where I saw that played out was in those that were doing in the Navajo Reservation, Apache Reservation, in the White Mountains of Arizona.
People will practice this.
This right to be, they call it a shapeshifter, but basically a skinwalker is kind of the euphemism that's talked about more colloquially.
And it's somebody that has gone down that dark path of witchcraft and is embracing the side of left-hand magic, and they are continually practicing horrific atrocities, digging up graves and taking bodies out.
Removing cranial plates and grinding them into powders and using those as poisons.
It's a lot of really disgusting stuff that was done.
And my family moved me out there when I was around eight, nine years old.
And I got brought in to see this side of the spiritual path work.
And they promised that you could walk and not make noise.
You could travel around people and they wouldn't be able to see you.
They called it splitting the realms.
That they would give you this power, but you have to kill someone you love.
And that's often that kind of more of the final apex of the ritual that's done, and I was brought in to be a part of that.
And as you're killing the person, you're breathing in their spirit, and you get consumed by this other life, this other spirit, and it's this...
It's an alteration of you.
You become a different person.
A different thing takes over you.
I believe it's total possession of another spirit that is ultimately what's done, but it requires the death of someone you love.
That practice of killing them is a final act, but then there's a version of it where, to me, it's much worse, where it's giving the child over to an abuser who's going to continually Traumatize them.
Continually abuse them.
And it's like you're drawing out that torture.
You're drawing out that power to where it's a lifelong thing.
Because now there's all these echoes of horrific broken relationships and a destroyed soul.
That's what is utilized a lot more often.
Is really where the child is put through this hell.
And then that is what feeds the family.
That chosen one.
Destruction is what feeds the family long term.
How does adrenochrome fit into all this?
Is everyone taking it in these circles?
I don't know that everyone is taking it.
I know that a product that was being used while people were being abused, they were piked.
They were extracting their blood out of them and then synthesizing components out of it.
I didn't have the word adrenochrome for any of this when I was young.
I knew that there were compounds that they would synthesize out of that down in Lake Havasu and they would put them in different vials.
They specifically had silver ones and brass ones and gold ones of these vials that they would put it in and had a little carrying case.
And then they would sell that to other individuals and they would get high or they would get euphoric.
See the spiritual realm.
Their eyes would be open like a hallucinogenic effect.
It would have these different effects on them.
But it was a product out of their blood that they were using and consuming.
And even part of what I had to do was take some of that as a child in a backpack with me up to the temple in Snowflake, Arizona, where a Mormon temple, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, had one of their big temples.
And there were elders in that church who was using that, taking that and giving it to people during rituals at their temple.
And so that's the places where I saw it being sold and trafficked to, but I didn't, I wasn't a part of the process where it was being sold wholesale all over the country.
I only saw that being used, but it was a production facility in Lake Havasu where they were actually just making that and distributing it out.
Do you mean that the blood is extracted as the child is being killed?
Not always killed.
Tortured, traumatized, abused, seeing violent things on the screen in a state of terror.
In a state of terror or also in a state of dread, of absolute dread, of paralysis, they would extract it at different times during the course of it.
Sometimes they'd be strapped into a chair and making them watch different things on the video and then they would be pulling off blood at different intervals and capturing different components out of it.
Whether it was a lot of pleasure and a lot of arousal or it was a lot of love, they would extract different components out of it as they were seeing these things.
But no, while the child was being abused, More often than not.
That's why I say it's literally like a battery.
On my YouTube channel, I have a video describing that much more in detail because it's like there was a movie called Monsters, Inc., which Disney put out, which is very much descriptive of using fear and bottling the terror of children and using that as a fuel source.
That's literally a very good metaphor for how it operated.
Have you come across some Jesse Sabota who was a mother of darkness?
Do you know about the mothers of darkness?
Is that a name you're familiar with?
I'm familiar more with the name, but not from Jesse's story, but from the daughter of Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan out in Southern California.
She came out of the church.
She literally came out of it and ended up going to a minister and trying to find help and restoration of it.
And ultimately that, the book is called The Serpent and the Sword.
Oh, I may not have it here.
Excellent book, which discusses it in more details with pastors that were working with her that ultimately led to the death of Anton LaVey on Halloween night, when she was supposed to go through her final ritual to become a mother of darkness and have a child with Satan.
So, I mean, you presumably don't think all this stuff is nonsense.
I mean, it's all real, the battle between good and evil.
It's absolute reality.
To me, it was and always has been far more real than this physical world that I see with my eyes.
It is an absolute world that hunts the souls of men and is hell-bent on keeping people from knowing the truth.
There's one side that wants people to be deceived.
Fundamentally, there's a side that rules through deception and through subterfuge and through compromise.
And to me, that's how we can identify the physical fruits of a spiritual kingdom at play that's seeking to devour and consume and destroy mankind.
And there's a side that has love and joy and peace and prosperity and life that is offered to it.
And that's the fruits that that kingdom is ruled by.
But there is an absolute war for the souls of men every single day.
And that's why if we believe on the name of Yeshua and we confess with our mouth that He is the Master, we will be saved.
That's the fundamental thing that I found.
I saw radical evil have power, and I saw people in the church who really didn't for most of my life, but it wasn't until I saw the demonstration of men and women walking with deep convictions who were willing to preach the truth and say the truth, even if it was costly.
People who were willing to suffer for the sake of their beliefs.
It wasn't until I saw that demonstrated, James, that I actually believed that maybe the God of the Bible...
The God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, I believed his word was true.
I just didn't see often his people representing him well.
I saw a lot of people misrepresenting him.
And it gave me a perverse idea of who he was and who his son was.
That was through a lens of religion as opposed to a lens of relationship.
And it really wasn't until I got into a relationship with him and I read his word for myself and I began to have that relationship that I came to understand.
How incredible and powerful and extreme and magnificent he is and how set apart he is from that wickedness and from that evil and how he is inviting us into a relationship of restoration, of healing, of...
I now have a family.
I had nothing.
I had nothing.
I wanted to die all my life as a child.
All I wanted was death.
I longed for it.
I prayed for it.
I sought it out.
And yet I couldn't die.
No matter how much I wanted to, I could not die.
And that was all I ever believed there was going to be, this free day, someday when I'll finally be free is when I'll die.
But you know what?
He had a purpose for my life.
He had a destiny for my life that was far richer than anything this world could have offered me.
That was better than anything that the trust funds could have ever provided for me, which was peace.
And a family.
My children are my inheritance.
I have four children now, when I should have none.
My children have never had to go through that nightmare, that abuse, because we've lived a very different life, a very set-apart life from that world.
And because of that, I'm able to lay down and sleep in peace, because I know that He watches over us, so I dwell in safety.
He is the only one that could ever provide that for me.
He's the only one who could ever enrich my life like that.
And because of that, that's why I serve Him.
him.
That's why I'm passionate to talk about him and share him with others.
But that's the real reason I'm out.
That's the real reason I have any hope.
Otherwise, I would just be trying to manage and survive every single day.
That's all I ever lived.
But he has given me the tools to come to deliverance and restoration.
Yeah, it's great to hear that.
I imagine he's working quite hard to keep you alive, keep you and your family alive.
I mean, without his protection, you'd be in trouble, I think.
Yeah, that's the only reason I live.
That's it.
I don't think he has to work hard to do it at all.
I think he's the judge of all the earth, and his word, people live in it.
His word, people can die.
He can save any of our lives, no matter what people have been in, whatever they're going through.
He has the power to rescue anybody who calls upon him, and he is more than capable of doing that.
You're right, of course.
I mean, he is God.
Was it a sudden thing, or was it a gradual thing for you?
It took time.
You know, it took time.
It ultimately, in a lot of ways, it took him providing for me authentic love in the flesh.
It took him providing for me a woman who loved me and showed me unconditional love firsthand.
Not manipulation.
The version of love I thought was love was very tied to manipulation.
And so when he talks about love, I didn't really understand.
I didn't know what Yahuwah was trying to describe.
But then he gave me this woman, Chelsea, who came into my life.
She came from a very normal family.
Well, much more normal family.
And she showed me love amidst torment.
She showed me love even when I had to divulge to her what I thought were the most shameful and embarrassing moments of my life.
It's not easy to talk about being a victim.
It's not easy to describe to people what this was.
But she showered me.
With love, she showed me she loved me no matter what I'd been through and what I'd done.
She loved every part of me.
She loved the monsters, the side of me that were horrific and very angry and cruel.
And enraged.
She loved the very broken, shattered, abused child.
She loved every aspect of me.
And she consistently played.
She showed consistency in her love.
She showed consistency in her beliefs and her convictions.
And she offered to me a tangible way of knowing I am loved.
I do have a life.
I can't have a purpose and a new mission.
She helped me to be successful in my pursuits and my endeavors.
She's been my helper.
And you know what?
That's one of the greatest provisions that I've ever been given in my life.
Was one person who believed in me.
Even through all of the mockings and the betrayals, we've lost so much in our life.
And yet we've come out of it with our freedom, with our soul, with our family.
And he has helped to preserve so much of my life.
And I'm very thankful for that, that he gave me that as a gift to me, to sustain me on this journey.
And so that we can walk this life out and live an abundant life.
We've got to thrive in an otherwise very dreary and dark land.
I noticed you call him Yeshua rather than Jesus.
Tell me about that.
Well, you know, Jesus is the name by which I came to know him and believe that I got to see deliverance through initially throughout my life.
But as I spent a lot of time in the ministry realms and a lot of the people I interact with, especially when I was out in Colorado and in the Boulder area, the word Jesus is thrown around.
For many different things today, there's a different form of Jesus in New Age and Gnosticism and in Kundalini.
There's all these different masquerading Jesuses that were out there.
And as I got to know him through the scriptures, I saw Jesus through more of his original name, like in Hebrew, which was Yeshua or Yeshua.
And it really, for me...
James, on one side, it helped me to have a differentiation in language of who specifically I was talking about when I would talk to people about my Messiah, about the one who saved me and delivered me.
On one side, it also, the Bible itself was physically used as a means of mind control.
A translation of it, the King James and the NIV were used while I was being abused at times to make me...
Shut down and not be able to go to the Word as a means of restoration later on.
I literally had people that would dress up as Jesus who would come into the room and abuse children, and then they would have the devil come in and beat up Jesus and say, call upon the devil and he'll save you.
Really?
I saw a perversion of Jesus that made sides of my personalities terrified and scared and wanted nothing to do with them and hate it.
That's a form of mind control that is used to keep people from going to the Bible or going to the Scriptures in their life in the future.
You've said many extraordinary things in this chat, but that is just next level.
So this is quite a common thing, is it?
Yes.
This is why I call it radical intelligent evil because it's a way of weaponizing them.
It's inoculating them from ever going to the cure.
It's literally preconditioning them so that they can't ever go find salvation.
be other times they would physically bring us into a church and abuse us in the church and they would literally abuse us in the church while reading the bible so that there was this trauma associated with this that i would be terrified in the church i would never find restoration or protection of any kind when the bible was being read but it would make me fall asleep and make me shut down those were very intentionally built in so that there was there was this abhorrence of the bible hatred of it fear of it so i mean it's perfectly possible
isn't it to be a satanist and Pose as a kind of God-fearing Christian.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's their duality side of it.
And on one side, it can be hard to accept, but there's a...
Personality side of them that genuinely believes a lot of those things, but then there's another personality that absolutely embraces the darkness and is working through it.
Even I share about this showdown that my wife and I had, this last conversation with my father, where that Christian mask melted off his face and he was screaming and cursing at me.
This other personality, but more so this other power came over him.
The family spirit came upon him, and it was like this park was filled with the icy presence, and he was just cursing every single aspect of my life very specifically and cussing and screaming, ranting at a child's play park with little children running around everywhere, whereas that man would never, ever...
Show anything like that.
That would never come out of his mouth.
Hardly in my entire life did I ever hear him say a curse word.
But then that other spirit came out and that other personality was fully out because there was this changing taking place between our relationship and the mantle of authority over our families.
And that spirit was trying to defend its position and not lose its ground.
But that came out of him on this abhorrent way, and that was the first time my wife got to personally witness that shift.
But otherwise, it really is locked up behind a very well-built wall.
So you mean your dad had been through the same experiences that you went through as a child?
And I don't know the level of what he went through as a child.
I don't really know exactly what he went through, but he was definitively a handler and a manipulator and controller for our family.
And would pass us on through these things and was controlling of my mom and reprogramming her parts and her personalities and is obviously architecting the family trade and the family business now and making sure that the next generation of children, there's fresh thought coming into the family continually, you know?
I suppose what I'm asking you is, are there lots and lots of families in America where, like yours, where if you met the father, you'd think, this man is a...
A God-fearing person.
He goes to church regularly and he's a good person, I can tell.
But he's not.
Is that a common thing?
The highest places of infestation you're going to find it is in the churches predominantly.
predominantly, you're going to find it more saturated in a lot of the Christian or even the Catholic and a lot of the religious sides of community is where they hide most prevalently.
And the reason they've been so successful, it says we're commanded in scriptures to be not ignorant of the schemes of the devil.
But the vast majority of believers, even if I try to share some of my testimony with, are terrified.
They don't even want to hear about the occult side of the world and human trafficking.
They don't want to even hear about it.
They're so scared of the devil or scared of discussing Satanism or any aspects of Luciferianism or the occult working.
They don't even want to hear it.
And that fear is keeping them ignorant.
And this is allowing the effective predation of them by these criminals.
They're able to predate and live amongst them.
He says, listen, I'm sending you out as sheep amongst wolves.
Understand, you will know them by their fruits.
The vast majority of people just don't know how to investigate people's fruit and inspect their fruit over the long term.
But you can learn to identify these things.
But if a pastor or a church individual doesn't understand split personalities, they don't understand how the occult works, they don't understand that...
Witches will literally train people up and send them into the church to defile the church, to do ritual sacrifices in the church, and to commit fornication and adultery with the pastor.
They don't understand how warfare is played out against believers, and because of that, they're woefully ignorant, which means that those individuals who are in the occult, who are trained in these arts, are able to run the roost.
and by and far they keep anybody who has the real strong anointing of the Holy Spirit or is very gifted in discernment, who has experience with trauma and abuse in survivors and can identify children and victims, they don't want those people in their church.
They don't want shepherds.
They don't want real shepherds who are trained up to navigate these issues anywhere near that place, so they'll drive them out of it.
And we've seen that consistently at churches that we've gone to where they've got Freemasons and all kinds of people that are oath swearing.
They're just infesting these churches, and you try to bring it to them and be like, hey, if you want all these Freemasons to be in your church, all right, that's up to you.
Have you ever sat down with them and read their oaths and their rituals and described what they do at night?
Why don't we just publicly stand on the stage and talk about what all these guys do?
Why don't we show a video from inside their own ritual ceremonies of what these guys are doing and then coming in here and masquerading as Christians and strong believers while adept in the word, understanding their swearing oaths to these unclean spirits at night.
So this is not...
This is not popular by any stretch of the imagination inside the church to talk about.
However, it's coming to the surface more readily in the public domain, and people are starting to ask questions and becoming more equipped with answers to navigate how do we differentiate between a wolf and a sheep.
I'm so glad you said that, Nathan, because this has been my experience of Christianity and Christians, and also of awake people.
There seems to be a division between those who want to look at the evil of the world full in the face and accept, for example, that there are underground tunnels where children are trafficked and murdered and that the world is controlled by these criminal families.
And then there are those who don't want to go there because it's too horrible to think about and also...
It involves thinking about the supernatural, which even some Christians are reluctant to do, bizarrely.
And if you don't accept the things you're saying, I think you're kind of missing out pretty key dimension.
You're hitting on a, I think the unfortunate reality is the enemy has parasitically attached himself to so many people's doctrine so that they're ignorant of how he operates.
You know, it says in 1 John that for this reason the Son of God was manifested to destroy the works of the devil.
It says very clearly, like, his main job of why Jesus, Yeshua, came to this earth was to destroy the strongholds that the devil had implanted in our lives and in our culture and in our relationships.
Over time, we've had seditious agents, people that were, you know, Jesuit order is a very good example of it, people who operated on the forefront of saying, this is our beliefs and our convictions.
We will act like any of you are in order for us to go in and slowly change the doctrinal beliefs of this religion to be more conforming towards the ideological endeavors of the superior general of the black pope.
That shift happened very early, very gradually and very intentionally here in the Americas in predominance through our seminaries.
There was a very intentional infestation into the seminary schools in the mid-1800s, the late 1800s, to where they changed biblical understanding to being the Bible as a reliable historical text with a supernatural worldview to make it more metaphorical, to make it more something that could be kind of applied more psychologically.
They shifted it.
As the scientific modality of the world shifted, they made it conform to the pattern of the world.
And what they did by doing that was denatured from us our ability to actually understand how does the spiritual hierarchy work?
Who are the principalities, powers, rulers, dominions, thrones, and authorities?
What is the prince of Persia?
Who are the principalities of Persia that are contending with Daniel as he's trying to pray and intercede?
What are the reasons that people's prayers are hindered?
What are the things that are keeping...
In our society now, you don't go to a pastor and tell him, I have depression without him looking at you and telling you to go talk to your doctor.
We've shifted from being the people that administered healing and deliverance to the people that offer it.
We go to that side of business to do that.
That's over there.
We are not well training our ministers to be powerful authorities of spiritual warfare who can help to deal with people that are having sleep paralysis and their children are having night terrors.
We need to be the ones who are bringing the authority of the Holy Spirit into people's lives to show them a demonstration of power that these demonic activities that are taking place in their lives, this occult working that's being done, does not need to rule anymore.
But as that idea to be a really powerful deliverer of the gospel has been denuded to such an extent that people are scared to even say the name of God.
They're scared to say Jesus out loud.
They're scared to talk about him with their friends.
Like, we've got a society that collectively persecutes and shames people away from it, but it's also inside the church, too, just as much.
If you start talking about a lot of these things, it makes people uncomfortable.
But we need to be the people who are well-trained and well-read in the Word so that we can navigate these topics and be the ones to bring people the answers to what it is they're looking for.
So where do you think we are in the scriptures at this point?
Are we sort of fifth seal?
Sixth seal?
Well, I would say that without question, I really believe that Yeshua, he said very clearly that as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man.
And when I look back to what was taking place in the days of Noah, I see hallmarks of augmentation and proclivity, where the fallen angels were coming down and mingling themselves with the women, like it says in Genesis 6, and creating these hybridized offspring, augmenting humanity to where it was only evil continually, this heart of violence.
And when I take the spiritual temperature of society and of the room, what I see is the engineering of the augmentation of humanity, creating this humanity 2.0 through all kinds of various different mechanisms, whether it's transhumanism or the medical injections, all kinds of various different things whether it's transhumanism or the medical injections, all kinds of various different things that are changing people away from being the image bearers of God that we were made to be, and it's augmenting their
So I see a lot of those hallmarks building and building into this crescendo to where mankind is beginning to worship and idealize the old gods.
They're worshiping and enthroning many of the old deities by name.
By name.
They're going in and they're making temples to them, whether they call them Thor.
Yes.
What was it?
The Basiaga?
There's a Spanish fashion label called Balenciaga.
Bal.
It's Bal worship.
Right there.
Oh, yeah.
We've got...
It's overt.
It is.
It is.
Have you seen Doja Cat?
Have you seen her pop videos?
No.
It's demon worship.
I mean, it's demon worship.
Or go to a Taylor Swift concert.
They're occult rituals.
Absolutely.
Well, these are the priest class.
Those are the priest class.
They receive the worship.
You know, this Madonna, she's been doing that for longer, but it's becoming much more wholesale where they receive that worship and channel it back to the spirits that they are in bondage to.
That's what a priest does.
They take worship from men, people, they collect it, and then distribute it back to the spirit.
That's their role.
That's why they're exalted on high.
That's why people raise their hands and worship them.
And that's where the money goes.
That's why she's on the cover of Everyday Magazine when you walk down the aisle.
She's the chosen one.
For this generation, for that worship to go to that mighty one.
She's the priestess for that cult.
That's what Beyonce is.
She's the queen of bee.
Bee is literally a deity back from the days of Egypt.
These people are still carrying these old religious orders out.
It doesn't change.
It looks different.
The Starbucks logo is picking up from a Sumerian tablet of another deity, and it is branded and put so it looks like a temple.
If you brought a pagan back from 200...
200 AD, they would look around and see many of the same symbols for their gods that they saw back then being masqueraded and brought in front of our faces today.
And people sacrificed their time, their money, their energy, and their attention to look upon those things, to gaze upon those things, and that's where that power is exchanged.
Sorry, you mentioned Beyoncé.
They're really scared of Beyoncé, aren't they?
All of them.
She's got...
If it is a she, I mean, if I was a boy, there's the suggestion that she might not be a woman.
But they're genuinely scared of her, aren't they?
I'm not sure who that they specifically you're talking about is afraid of.
Well, everyone in the music industry.
Well, I think perhaps it's because she's just operating under a different set of leaders.
Who's their boss?
They can't control her in the same way, whereas she's got other people that are...
Clearly, the shot caller's for her, and she still has her own power bank, her and Jay-Z. They're just as handled as anybody else, even at that level.
They're still going to have somebody else that is their handler.
It just may not be for the titans of that industry specifically that want to have power and control over her.
So you've got the families who know that they're comfortable in their wealth and their power.
If you're in these families, do you look on the entertainment industry and the music industry as kind of the sort of lower class of creatures who are just serving your interests, or is there equality?
Well, I think it's more so perceived as another arm of the family.
This is a way of influence.
Entertainment is by and far one of the greatest tools for propaganda and for influence.
I mean, you can utilize these individuals to generate sales and to create products and to create revenue and cash flow.
But on the other side of it is also to manipulate the individuals to steer the populace into different directions to be for a war that you're wanting to commit or against it.
Or you can use them as your talking point, as your mouthpiece.
To be able to put forth agendas, to put into the public milieu this new socially engineered idea that we want to see come to fruition.
So I would say the opposite.
I would say they're an integral part, a very critical piece.
Because that's why they were raised up, to exalt the stars again, that people would worship the stars once more.
But Edward Bernays is one who pioneered much of the weaponization of the entertainment industry through propaganda.
He's the one who created the red carpet.
He hired reporters to come out to the red carpet to take pictures of people because he wanted to sell products, and he needed to create a star, to create somebody that people would talk about and think about and write about and muse on.
That creation was used by individuals of the intelligentsia, by the elites, so that they could control and influence and manipulate the masses on a different scale.
And also, am I not right in thinking that you don't really make it in the entertainment industry unless you are already from one of those families?
They're mostly not ordinary Joes like me who have acting skills and suddenly become famous.
They've already been pre-selected, haven't they?
Well, it's not a necessity for them to come from one of the specific families in that regard.
They need to go through a proofing process to where they will be able to be handled and controlled.
That's more imperative, is that they are somebody that will be their asset and not their liability.
So they're not going to be brought onto that stage.
Or if they are and they begin to show cracks and that they're not going to be able to go along to get along or they're going to speak out against things, they're going to be relegated back to obscurity.
There's a lot of celebrities that get huge and disappear.
Disappear.
You'll never hear about them ever again.
They're alive, but they just don't ever exist in the public domain because they're not fitting the narrative or they're not walking the walk that they want them to.
So they can exalt and lift up anybody.
The power that, in a lot of ways, families have is the ability to exalt somebody to the front line of everything.
They can make somebody that was a nobody yesterday a somebody tomorrow and put them in the room with anybody.
Access to power is much more like I was saying, an introduction or a relationship is much more the currency, the powerful currency that gets people in the door in different industries, whether that's somebody who's really wanting to get into the scenes of science and academics.
It's the same thing that operates through the forms of lawfare and the judiciaries and the politics.
They all have their same shot callers and manipulators of those systems to expedite people through that process at any given time.
So people that are willing to compromise and go along with the agendas that they have laid out, they can get fast-tracked into that.
But if you, at the top of that, ever deviate, then you can be relegated right back down to the place that they want as well.
It does sound like the beast system.
I mean, in order to thrive in this, to get material riches and power and sex and all the kind of...
The superficial things.
You've got to sell your soul.
I mean, literally.
You have to give away your mind, your will, your emotions, your intellect.
That's your soul.
You give that away and you become a slave to another idea, another doctrine.
And you fully commit to it in order to have access to that power.
It's why I look with grief on a lot of these individuals.
It's not something to idolize.
It's something to be grieved and to be mourned.
It's a loss of individual personhood.
They've lost themselves in the process.
You can see this with a politician that people that literally have relationships with, they know face-to-face, and they watch them go from a mediocre level of...
And as they go up those scales, they watch them alter, and they change, and they compromise, and they become somebody unrecognizable, a completely different person.
And it's something, it's grieving.
It's grievous.
And it's, I have a heart and a love for the people that are in these places, that are in this brokenness, because I understand what it's like to be a slave.
I know what it's like to be a slave, to have no free will, to have no decision-making process left in your mind, that you only do what you're told.
It's bondage.
It's such a stark reality of learned helplessness, and it's readily identifiable once you've been in it, and you can see it in other people, that they are a shell of an individual.
They are masquerading as if they're happy, but meanwhile, they are literally just another prostitute on the page.
Do you know Psalm 37?
Oh.
Fret not thyself because of the ungodly, for they shall soon be cut down like the grass and be withered as the green herb.
That's great.
That's a good one.
Psalm 37 is awesome.
Psalm 34 too.
There's some really, really...
It's one of my hobbies, learning the Psalms.
Yeah?
I've learned 30 of them so far.
Way to go!
Yeah, but I've still got 120 to go.
That's great.
We've got a challenge.
We love trying to challenge people and spur people on.
We do a lot more...
Obviously, I do interviews and talk about this kind of stuff, but a bigger passion of mine is talking about the scripture and trying to inspire people towards living an authentic life.
We live a much more natural life and growing food and farming and natural regenerative agriculture and all this stuff and raising families and homeschooling.
It's a much bigger passion of what we do a lot of.
Part of that is we challenge people to memorize the scriptures.
We put out a challenge memorizing Psalm 119. I make custom knives.
I challenge someone, if they memorize Psalm 119, which is the largest psalm, they would get a knife, this custom knife made by me.
And sure enough, we had a young gal do it.
We've been saying, hey, if you guys memorize a chapter of the scriptures, we'll send you a sweet custom knife.
Or if you're young, we'll send you treasures and gemstones or flashlights, cool stuff.
But it's the greatest thing that people can write on their heart.
It is the most important thing that people can write upon their heart.
I'd love to hear that you've memorized 30 psalms.
That's amazing.
Keep going.
It's quite interesting you mentioned Psalm 119. I've realised that I don't want this to be the last psalm I learn, because it's like the Mount Everest of Psalms.
So what I've been doing is, between learning, every psalm I learn...
I also, the next psalm is a bit of Psalm 119. And so far, there's 22 sections, I think, which correspond to the Hebrew alphabet.
So I've learned Aleph and Beth so far.
Some psalms are much easier to learn than others.
And Psalm 119 is really difficult because essentially it says the same things.
22 different ways, but basically it says, learn the law of the Lord, follow the law of the Lord, and make your path right with the Lord, and just have different phrases.
Whereas some of the Psalms are really fun, like they've got animals in them.
I like songs with animals in them, you know, like, I like it when the animals appear and the lions do lack and suffer hunger.
I like it when they've got lions in them or there's a dragon in Psalm 91 and an adder.
And a young lion.
But yeah, the Psalms are really good.
And I think you're absolutely right.
Encouraging people to memorize the scriptures.
Because, of course, the demons really hate it.
They don't like you learning the scriptures.
They don't like you reciting the scriptures.
And I'm sure that the essence of early Christianity was learning the Psalms.
The Psalms was considered a sort of an abbreviated version of all the truths within the Bible.
And Christ, of course, is always quoting the Psalms in the New Testament.
Oops.
I can see again.
Yeah.
You know, the demons don't like it when you talk about this.
They hate the Psalms.
They do.
I don't know how much of that you got, but yeah.
I did.
It's good.
Tell me, I ask people this sometimes, what do you think will happen after you're dead?
What's heaven like?
How does it work?
Well, I think I will sleep until the resurrection, you know, and he calls me to be resurrection in the white throne of judgment that waits each of us, where we cast our works into the fire.
And all the things that were worthless, like in 1 Corinthians 12 describes, you know, our works will be tested by fire.
Everything we've ever done in our life will be tested by fire.
And that which was worthless will be burned up, and that which was pure and precious will be like precious stones and will be made into a crown.
And that's those moments I wait for most longingly, is being able to see my king and my father face to face once more.
That's what I wait for longingly.
When we're resurrected, it'll be like the world.
I mean, I'm very happy with this if it is.
All nature as it is, but with more of it and with no wind turbines, they'll be taken away because they're the work of the devil.
And no kind of ugly buildings.
Do you think we'll be eating organic food?
Do you ever think about that?
Oh man, I do.
I do.
And it's good to think about.
What it would be, a new heaven and a new earth.
Made perfect and made pure.
Part of a big passion of mine is studying what was originally the land like before it got altered to such a degree of what we see now with plants and animals and migratory patterns of birds and livestock and insects.
What was land like even just a couple hundred years ago?
Flocks of millions of birds, of just one species of birds flying over.
The Americas had this unbelievable...
Fertility.
That was managed by man.
Understand it was still managed by man in different methods.
But just to witness and experience it, I live out in the Appalachian Mountains where there used to be chestnut trees.
Massive, like redwood-sized chestnut trees that would drop these delicious, like corn.
Almost like sweet corn that would fall out of the sky.
By the hundreds of millions of pounds every season.
Just this unbelievable free gift that would just...
Rain out of the sky and people could gorge on it.
And just to me, just the beauty of foraging and natural food.
So I love foraging and eating out of nature and finding these plants.
And to me, what is...
Offered to us for the promise of what's to come is a land without destruction, without death, without decay, without all of the thorns and the briars and the thistles.
I mean, just to imagine the tapestry where aromas of fragrant flowers, of plants, and sweetness of fruits is always there, is always prevalent for our taking.
is just such a delight to consider and one I think of all the time.
If you guys haven't, if you've never been to a smaller farm where somebody's doing it naturally or organically and getting able to walk into a food forest where there's all kinds of varieties of food that are growing, it's just such a perspective shift to what life is like in the garden and what it really was like for Adam and Eve. it's just such a perspective shift to what life is I genuinely think we cannot comprehend the level of wonder of all senses that was available on the planet On demand, whole scale throughout the world of pleasant things.
But do you think we still get to eat meat?
Or do you think we're vegetarian from that point on?
I don't know that we'll eat meat.
I don't know that we will eat meat again.
And part of that is because of death passing away.
And that's the side of it that he had an original intention and design for our bodies.
For what food was.
And I also know that the type of food that the actual nutrient density of food was very different even 50 years ago, even 150 years ago in different parts of our world.
As the soils and the minerals have been depleted, we nutritionally get a very different amount of nutrients from our food even if we try to eat vegetarian diets and everything else versus what you could have had.
Going back into time or millennia.
So the types of food that will be available to us, I think, will satisfy us in a way that we can't comprehend right now.
Well, you know whose fault that is, that all that nutrient density is gone.
It's families like yours.
It's devastating.
Monsanto.
Thank you, Bayer.
When I think about the DuPont family alone, the damage they've done to That architecture, with that foul plastic, that white plastic that they seem to control.
And there are probably other families doing similar, different evil things to the world.
That's what I was getting at earlier when I said they augment the world.
They change the world.
That was part of one of the watchers named Zazel, that he changed the world.
By doing this, he altered mankind.
He altered creation.
And this is something that man was given the gift that we could change creation.
And you can do it for better, and you can do it for far worse.
And we have a very altered reality today, a very augmented reality that has changed.
I mean, think of it, James.
Think of growing up today, being born today and being raised in society and thinking this is normal for everything, for the food, the clothing, the fashion, the entertainment, the environment, the atmosphere, thinking this is reality and normal versus taking that child back and having them born in 1930s, 1920s.
Just the contrast of perspectives and life experiences that are available to our children now are so vastly different.
And it's going to require so much more diligence on our parts to still give them an authentic experience of life and vitality that's not just found through a screen, through a digital altered relationship, how to have skills to navigate life without being slaves to the technology. how to have skills to navigate life without being slaves I so agree.
It'll be great when Bryce comes again.
I've got to ask you before we go.
This may be a short answer, maybe a long answer.
What do you think happens in Antarctica?
That's a great question, James.
Well, I would say first and foremost, it's a land of secrecy.
It's the continent of secrecy where information is not allowed to go out or in.
And it is the only continent where we have seemingly unity of peace, where all the nations can agree to not go in and take any mining or exploitation.
So to me, it's a land of secrecy for a reason, and I believe they are hiding.
I can't go and investigate myself because they would shoot me down if I tried to fly a plane down over there.
However, I believe that they are hiding and concealing a great many resources on one side, physical resources and potentially far more costly experiences of what's really going on out there that are being shielded and insulated from us down in Antarctica.
But I believe that is the epicenter of secrecy and where a lot of even just the Nazis and other agencies over time have gone to hide and conceal their secrets and build their own bases that we're not allowed to be a part of knowing what's going on.
Jesse Zabota says that Leviathan actually lives down there There is actually a sea monster, Leviathan, the one in the Psalms.
Psalm 100 and...
Five, I think.
Oh.
It'd be cool, wouldn't it?
It'd be a great hiding place.
Well, it'd be a great hiding place.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd love to go there, but like you, they'd shoot me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Essentially hiding the firmament of the creator, too.
You know, all kinds of things could be hiding there.
I've so enjoyed talking to you, and I'm really happy that you managed to escape this hell.
And so, thank you, God, for...
For rescuing Nathan and his family.
Where can people find your stuff?
Yes, they can go to snatchedfromtheflames.com.
I have a book I wrote which shares my story coming out of that.
I have that available on there for download, e-book, audio book.
You can get a signed copy from there as well.
I recorded the entirety of the audio of the scriptures.
I believe that was one of the most important things I could ever do with my life was to do a dramatized audio of the scriptures.
So I have that available for free for download for anybody that wants to have that.
How long did that take?
I did it in about two months, a little less than two months.
I devoted, I work very diligently.
Well, I get real intense into things.
I go all in.
Which version did you use?
I used the ISR Scriptures translation, Institute for Scriptures Research.
Fantastic translation, very readable, and has the names put back into it.
Like when you're going through the Psalms, Psalm 37 is another one of those that has all the Aleph Bet.
Psalm 37 is key to the alphabet as well.
But they'll put more of the more Hebrew pronunciations of a lot of the words still preserved into the text.
That was one of my big efforts that I put forth.
So that's available there as well.
I have a YouTube channel, youtube.com backslash Nathan Reynolds, and we've got 600-700 videos on there as well talking about these topics.
I've got a lot of interviews of shows that I've done over the years, but we also have regenerative agriculture and farming and homeschooling and homesteading and just breakdowns of the scripture that I've shared over the years.
And we traveled full-time in an RV all over the country, so we share those chronicles as well.
So that's all available on YouTube or the website, Snatch.
Well, thank you.
Thank you, Nathan.
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Nathan, happy Christmas, you and your family.
It's been great chatting to you.
Thank you very much.
It's been wonderful being here with you, James.
Thank you so much.
Global warming is a massive con.
There is no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it.
It's a non-existent problem.
But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
Well, I've just brought out the revised edition of my 2012 classic book.
Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land.
It's a shocking story.
I wrote it, as I say, in 2011, actually.
The first edition came out.
And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
The era when...
The people behind the climate change scan got caught red-handed, tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen ClimateGate.
So I give you the background to the skullduggery that went on in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were informing us, we've got to act now.
I rumbled their scan.
I then asked the question, OK, if it is a scan...
Who's doing this and why?
It's a good story.
I've kept the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
