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Welcome to The DellingPod with me, James DellingPod.
And I'm feeling both excited and a little bit sad.
The reason I'm excited is because I've got this amazing event coming up.
It's called James and Dick's Christmas Special.
Can you guess what it involves?
That's right.
It's James and Dick on a stage, just chatting the usual rubbish, but with an intimate audience.
And it will be surrounded by drinks with a cash bar.
Woodfire pizzas will be available.
You have to pay for them, but I think you'll want to feed.
And most important of all, you will be surrounded by like-minded folk.
I mean, that's the real point of these events.
Obviously, Dick and I will probably say some funny things.
And by the way, I don't think I'm going to record this event, so it's like, be there or miss it totally.
There'll be a cash bar.
I've insisted on a cash bar this time after the disaster at the last event where people went to a pub and found it was card only, which is a bit off-brand.
It's going to be in Northamptonshire.
You'll get the details as soon as you buy your ticket.
My big worry is that tickets are selling out quite fast.
There are not that many.
It's not like one of my big London events, and you're going to...
These intimate ones are probably more fun in a way, because you get more access.
I don't know, something like that.
Anyway, lots of the usual suspects are coming.
Oh, and Dick's Band!
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There'll probably be other special guests too, I don't know.
I mean, I'm not promising.
But anyway, if you want tickets to this event, which is on the 30th of November, that's a Saturday, So you can make a weekend of it, if you like.
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Welcome back.
To the Delling Pod.
Miri AF. Which everyone knows stands for Miri As Finch.
Miri Finch.
But it also stands for Miri As Fuck because you are...
You're badass and you're hardcore.
You don't want to get on the wrong side of Mirri.
I pissed you off the other day and you were like the Furies.
It was scary.
Good, thank you.
I mean, despite the innocent appearance you're given by your furry hat.
Yes, yes.
It's all a deceptive illusion, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way, I don't know how long I'm going to be able to maintain this running gag where I wear a hat at the same time as you, because I'm actually getting really hot already.
Well, I appreciate the solidarity, so thank you.
Also, I was in danger of looking like that Tim Poole.
Who's that?
Tim Paul?
Is he called Tim Paul?
The citizen journalist on Twitter who wears a hat, a woolly hat.
I don't think I've come across him.
I usually remember people with hats.
No, that's good.
You did well.
Because that's like saying, it's not quite as good as saying, I don't know who Russell Brand is.
I've never heard of Russell Brand.
Who is he?
Or I don't know who else.
Tucker Carlson?
No.
I haven't a clue.
Tim Pool is one of those he would fit into the classic Miri AF category of, if you know the name, they're in the game.
Yes, okay.
He built up this enormous...
I don't know why we're talking about it.
Oh, hats.
Audience on Twitter.
I kind of never trusted the guy.
Anyway, he's retired now for some reason.
He's decided that reasons, time to exit, etc.
Anyway, you've been doing some very interesting stuff recently.
Well, you always do interesting stuff.
But one of the interesting things you've been doing is going on to the Ashling...
Um, what's his name?
O'Loughlin.
Aisling O'Loughlin, who, I mean, I had her on my podcast once and she was absolutely, she was a joy.
But I think that it's all got a bit tense over the issue of whether the victims of the Manchester Arena bombing are real or whether they're crisis actors.
And you bravely went on her podcast to defend your position, which is what?
Oh, I like your cat.
Oh, thank you.
Cleo there.
So my position is that Manchester was a hoax and the victims are actors, which is not to say I don't believe that they're really injured.
I think that injuries in at least several cases are real.
I think what was upsetting Ashlyn was she does believe that they're real victims and that she found it very offensive that people were disbelieving them.
So she kept asking, is it okay to accuse innocent people of things they haven't done?
And I said, well, yes, it is.
Of course it is.
How else do we get to the truth?
Because we have to assume when we're making accusations, which is the basis of our legal system, that someone is innocent until proven guilty.
If we already knew they were guilty, you know, we wouldn't have gone through any process of discernment.
So, of course, we have to accuse them of something, work through our hypothesis, look for evidence, and then find out if it's true or not.
So, I said I understand that she believes that they're real and she's entitled to that belief.
And I know there's been a lot of arguments to say, well, you know, people aren't entitled to believe things are wrong.
It's so obvious that Manchester was a hoax, you know, you can't possibly say anything else.
I said, no, no.
She is entitled to that belief.
People are entitled to believe things that are wrong.
But ultimately, the crux of her argument was, is it okay to accuse people who might be innocent of things they haven't done?
And my position is that, yes, that is all right.
So I think that Ashton and I... Came to a kind of understanding.
You know, I didn't convince her that Manchester was a hoax.
She didn't convince me it was real.
But I think that I did get her to consider that actually, you know, it's not really a heinous crime to make an accusation that then turns out to be wrong because we are actually all allowed to be wrong.
Just like she's allowed to be wrong about Manchester, we're allowed to make an accusation about someone.
Then more evidence comes to light and we find out that we were wrong.
You know, if you're not prepared to risk being wrong, you're going to be a very kind of boring thinker.
Yes.
I think that there is a kind of gulf.
I think you agree with me that we're not a movement.
We're not required to agree on anything.
So I find it very difficult to find an umbrella term which describes those of us who don't subscribe to the normie mainstream paradigm.
Is there even a word?
What word do you use?
Well, I use awake, but I put it in inverted commas because I know it's very unsatisfactory.
Okay, well, you'll use awake.
Okay, so I'm not going to call it a movement, but those who are awake, among us, there are great divisions over things like chemtrails, I suppose, would be one, although less so now.
I think most people agree that chemtrails, duh.
But things like...
False flag operations and crisis actors and that the idea that All the big terrorist and inverted commas incidents are in fact staged by the security forces.
I think some people just don't want to go there because to go there means to accept a vision of the world so depressing where no authority can be trusted, where they're all baddies and they're all deceiving us.
And you think about how many people must be involved in In this deception.
You know, ordinary, decent people, almost like you and me, are involved.
So I think people would rather not go there at all.
They'd rather say, no, believe the victims.
Yes, you're absolutely right.
It is a simpler conclusion to draw.
It also allows you to look like a better person.
Because if you say, you know, I sympathise with the victims, I really care about victims of suffering.
Obviously, you know, initially that does come across as making you a more empathetic, compassionate person.
If you go, no, no, no, they're all lying.
So I think that, you know, that does rub some people a bit up the wrong way.
So...
What I've kind of tried to impress upon people in my discussions about this is, well, first of all, we as a species, as human beings, are terrible at knowing when other people are lying to us and when they're telling us the truth.
This has been studied an awful lot.
And if you ask people, can you tell when people are lying to you?
Everybody says yes.
But when you actually do research and try it out, you know, And under conditions where somebody is lying to them, people get it wrong.
They think someone's telling the truth and they're lying.
They think they're lying when they're telling the truth.
So if you see a victim testimony and find it very, very, very compelling, That's not evidence of anything, and nor is it evidence if you find it, you know, very wooden and scripted.
So I think when we're looking at these events, it's not about whether the victims are compelling or not.
I think we more have to look in the problem-reaction-solution category.
And what agenda items are these events fulfilling?
Now, this Manchester one, for instance, is fulfilling a huge agenda item, which is tightening up free speech and, you know, making so-called conspiracy theories Look very dangerous and, you know, turn the public against them and have something in law which says that, you know, we can't theorise in this way.
Now, it just seems too convenient that the establishment has been able to use Manchester in this way if they didn't set it up to be used in that way, because if it was an organic event, then they'd have no control over it.
They wouldn't know how the victims would react.
They wouldn't know if their families would cooperate with the media.
They certainly wouldn't know that one of the victims would be prepared to go through this very, very high profile, very contentious trial to bring in this law.
So I just don't think they'd take those kind of risks.
If they want to bring in laws to tighten up free speech, which we know that they do, and if they are control freaks, which we know that they are, it makes far more sense that they set this up all from the beginning to make sure it could go their way.
As I was saying to Bob the other day, you've got to admire these people.
They're planning.
They think so far in advance.
They've got it all covered.
Because you think about this.
So when even was the Manchester bombing?
It was ages ago.
2017, I think.
2017.
So obviously they planned it before 2017.
So they actually, in 2017, they were already anticipating the need to create new laws to close down There
were all sorts of other things, like there was the sort of...
That extraordinary event, the concert that appeared in Manchester within about a fortnight of the event, wasn't it?
One Love, was it?
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where your favourite BBC Radio 1 DJs turned up to curate this event, showing that despite these evil terrorists blowing us all up, it was all about love and we were all united against...
Every level.
And now you've got this court case, which you think, and I'm starting to share your view, that it was another setup.
The Richard D. Hall case was...
I mean, your take is that he is in on it, aren't you?
Isn't it?
Yeah.
It is.
And, you know, for the very simple reason that you alluded to earlier, you know, if you know their name, they're in the game.
And I think that because a lot of people on our side very sensibly don't consume a lot of mainstream media, they're not quite aware of how much coverage Richard D. Hall has had.
So he's been in all the big papers repeatedly, you know, The Daily Mail, Guardian, The Sun, Sky, ITV. He's even made the papers abroad, The New York Times.
And this isn't just like one paragraph in the back pages, it's big splashy sensationalist headlines.
And the Daily Mail, which is the second biggest circulation paper in the country after the sun, actually called him Britain's Sickest Man.
Now, to get that accolade really from the Daily Mail is the most phenomenal publicity.
And I said this to Ashton, you know, I would pay the Daily Mail to call me Britain's Sickest Woman because it would be such phenomenal publicity for me and my subscribers would go through the roof and it would just be great.
I mean, I have actually written to them and asked them to expose me.
And I've written to all these other newspapers as well and said, look, you know, I'm a vile ghoul and, you know, I'm a crazy crank.
And could you please expose me?
And I actually wrote an expose on myself in the language that they use and asked them to do it.
And of course, I enjoyed that.
It was good.
So, of course, they all completely ignored me because they know as well as I do that if you're styling yourself in any way as being anti-establishment or a conspiracy theorist, then these kind of so-called hit pieces from the mainstream media are the best possible publicity for you.
So, for instance, when they supposedly exposed Russell Brand, did all these hit pieces on him, his wealth went through the roof.
And they actually even admitted this.
The iPaper did a piece on it and said, you know, ever since the mainstream media has gone after Russell Brand, you know, his subscribers have shot up and he's got a lot writ to it.
It's like, oh yeah, you don't say.
And that happens every time they do these hit pieces on any conspiracy theorists.
And so when they did this with Richard D Hall, they were very explicit, saying, you know, he's selling these books for £50 on Amazon, so you can buy it from Amazon.
He sells this stuff on Madeleine Kahn from his website, so you can go to his website and buy it.
And this is just publicity.
And people think the word publicity means to be nice about, but it doesn't mean that.
It just means to draw attention to.
So that is what they are doing with these hit pieces, drawing attention to him, more and more attention to him.
And they just don't do that with legitimate people, because why would they?
You know, why would they give legitimate people free publicity?
As they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
It's really true.
And in fact, you, James, are a good example of this because you used to be an MSM journalist and, you know, the left didn't like you.
And they say, you know, he's an evil far-right extremist.
Now, they could have gone completely to town on you since your awakening and said, oh, my God, he's not just a far-right extremist.
You know, he's a crazy anti-vaxxer.
He's a conspiracy theorist.
They could have given you these splashes in all the mainstream press, but they haven't done that.
You haven't had any of these hit pieces on you.
So, you know, that's very interesting, whereas Richard D Hall gets all this attention.
So I have analysed this all the way through and all these people who rise to prominence in the MSM are controlled for the simple reason that the MSM does not heavily publicise people who aren't.
Yeah, I've often wondered about this.
Because it would be, to use a technical term, a piece of piss for the Guardian, or indeed the male, to do a hit job on me.
Making the most of my former public profile.
And so, like, this guy used to be a thing, and now look at the crazy stuff he's saying, and it's, you know, they're bunged in all the usual buzz phrases, like, anti-Semitic, probably, and whatever.
Yeah, flat-earther, etc., But they haven't.
The thing I suppose that where I was slow to agree with you on Richard D Hall was because in the early days when I was starting to go down the rabbit hole, Richard D. Hall was already a legend.
He was among conspiracy theorists.
My sister, who was down the rabbit hole before I am, had been to see his live shows.
He had this sort of credibility about him, didn't he?
He would go to places that other people wouldn't, and he'd suffered for it.
But I find your analysis very persuasive that why this court case?
Really, why?
Yeah, exactly.
And so, you know, it's a clever sleight of hand and a lot of people on our side are saying, you know, he's in a court saying Manchester is a hoax and you're not allowed to say Manchester is a hoax and that is not why he's in court.
As I pointed out, many people have said that, including Ian Davis, who's written a book on it, you know, said many of the same things as Richard.
Ian Davis is not in court and Ian Davis is not going to court.
Richard D Hall was in court on harassment charges and It is my contention that he deliberately contrived them.
He did something that he knew would qualify as harassment, so it could give the basis for this court case, which was loitering outside the house of a schoolgirl and secretly filming her.
So when he got this footage of Eve Hibbert, who was hiding in his van outside her house, and he said he wanted to secretly film her to find out if she was really disabled.
She was only 16.
And I don't think there are many people who think that middle-aged men loitering outside the houses of schoolgirls and secretly filming them is kind of an okay thing to do.
Including Richard D. Hall, because...
He asserted he was filming her to find out if she was really disabled because he would use that as evidence to prove that Manchester was a hoax.
So he secretly filmed her.
He said, OK, actually, she is really disabled, but Manchester is still a hoax.
So by his own admission, that actually wasn't evidence whether Manchester was or wasn't a hoax because he found out she was really disabled.
He said, yeah, Manchester is still a hoax.
So it's like, well, why was he filming her then?
Because whether she is or isn't really disabled isn't evidence either way.
So I think he tripped himself up on purpose in that way, you know, to really get public sentiment against him, because Martin Hibbert actually said, he, Richard D. Hall, can say what he likes about me.
But when he goes after my teenage daughter, then we've got a problem.
Of course, the public are going to sympathise with that.
If Richard Diebold had just been filming Martin Hibbert, I think people would be like, well, he's a grown man, you know, if another grown man wants to film him, it doesn't matter.
But it's when you get a disabled teenage schoolgirl that it really starts to look bad for Richard.
So that was, there were other harassment charges, but that was really the one that stuck.
So now Martin Hibbert, He has made a statement saying, you know, he's thrilled about this result and that we need now to have a new law which is going to be called Eve's law to his daughter which is going to tighten up laws, you know, harassment of survivors of tragedies.
But we don't need any more anti-harassment laws.
We've got plenty.
We're all protected by them.
But then what he said is also to protect victims, survivors of tragedies, from conspiracy theories.
So this case is really huge.
It set case law precedent if this law goes through that we're going to have an anti-conspiracy theory law.
And that's such a win for the establishment.
I just don't believe they would have left it to chance.
Yeah.
Can I just...
I'm not disagreeing with you here.
I just sort of want you to enlarge a bit on this point.
One of the lines of argument used by Aisling O'Loughlin...
Is that if you're going to make accusations against people you claim are crisis actors and fake victims, you've really got to be sure of your facts before you make these accusations.
Now, isn't it arguable that the only way you're going to expose these people as fakes is by engaging in kind of secret filming like Richard D. Hall did? isn't it arguable that the only way you're going to
In the same way that when you get benefit frauds and the ones who say they've been put out of work, they can't work because they're disabled, and then you see them kind of jogging and doing weights and playing tennis and stuff.
The only way you're going to find out that they're fakers is by filming them secretly.
Is that not the case?
Yes, but by Richard D. Hall's own admission, he found out she wasn't a fake, but he said it's Manchester's still a hoax.
So he actually disqualified his own reasons for doing it because he said, you know, I'm going to find out that, you know, she's faking and, you know, that will prove that Manchester's a hoax.
And he said, oh, OK, well, she wasn't faking.
So then by his own logic, that would mean Manchester was killed.
Oh, I see.
So he shouldn't, well, he certainly shouldn't have released the footage if it didn't, if it didn't prove anything.
Exactly.
Richard D. Hull acknowledges she is really disabled, yeah.
Right, yeah.
Of course, I mean, I did actually listen to some of Aisling's podcasts with you, and I was very struck by what a creature she is of the mainstream media, although she's cut loose from it, or she believes.
At the same time, her values are essentially...
The media, we have integrity.
We don't tell lies generally.
We are truth-tellers.
And I thought that was sort of nostalgia or naivety on her part.
Surely, surely the one thing we ought to have learned by now, those of us who used to work in the mainstream media but don't anymore, is it lies routinely.
We may not know where we're working for it, but we certainly do now.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's the point I made to her.
I said, well, you know, they lied, you know, pathologically, repeatedly, unrepentantly, all throughout COVID, you know, endlessly.
So why wouldn't they lie now?
And I think that, you know, the power of emotion is obviously very strong.
If we were, as a species, more swayed by, you know, reason and evidence and facts and emotion, then not a single person on Earth would have fallen for COVID. Certainly they wouldn't be, you know, lining up for sterilising death jabs.
But, you People were manipulated into that by having their emotions appealed to and manipulated.
You know, don't kill granny, all the rest of it.
So, you know, there's a saying that you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
And a lot of people hold their beliefs not based on evidence and facts, but on the power of emotion.
And the mainstream media knows that.
So, of course, with these kind of terror hoaxes, They involve children and they involve photogenic people and they do all the things to pull on your heartstrings because that works.
And then people are just overcome with emotion.
And, you know, they can't think clearly and logically.
And when you present them with evidence, they just get angry and call you a vile ghoul, which, you know, is what happened with COVID, any manner of hoaxes.
I got a lot of the Vile Gaul vibes in the aftermath of the October the 7th, Gaza.
Well, I think it was a psyop.
You remember, in those days, it was like, look, don't concern yourself with what happens.
Just know that babies were decapitated.
Babies.
Babies.
Just babies.
Actual babies were decapitated.
Lots of them.
Lots of them.
Think about those dead babies.
Think about the dead babies.
And everyone was going, yeah, yeah, dead babies.
Dead babies.
Let's get angry.
And then a few weeks later, I think even Haaretz The Israeli left-wing newspaper was admitting that the story was a complete fabrication.
There was no evidence for it at all.
But by then, the dead babies, the imaginary dead babies, had worked their imaginary dead baby magic, which is that they'd bludgeoned everyone into a state where they were furious with anyone who questioned the narrative, and they were keen that revenge of the bloodiest kind should be exacted.
These people know their game.
They do, absolutely.
You know, the mainstream media is a military-grade mind-control weapon, and they know that we're much more vulnerable to being controlled through our emotions than through our reason.
So that's what they go for every time.
And as you rightly say, child death is the most emotive and therefore the most manipulative tactic of all, which seems to be now, you know, what they've used with these Southport attacks, which I don't believe were real.
But of course, as soon as a child murder is allegedly involved, as soon as you cast a sceptical eye on that, then you're, you know, the worst kind of evil, vile, ghoul, and magical, because you don't care about children.
I mean, what could be worse?
Well, did you see what Aisling did when she mentioned the Southport murders?
She flashed up on her screen pictures of three little girls looking cute.
We were supposed to understand by this.
These little girls, who are cute, are now dead, brutally murdered by the evil murderer of Southport.
But they're just a picture of three girls.
We have no way of knowing.
At all.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know...
Try to make that point and say, the media showing you pictures and saying these people are dead is not proof of anything.
You know, that is not a legal standard that even anybody has died, never mind that they've been murdered in the way that the media has suggested.
But people are very powerfully swayed.
First of all, they're powerfully swayed, you know, by the emotions involved in the alleged death of children, but they're also powerfully swayed by not wanting to look like a bad person.
You know, and you get so much...
You know, emotion policing.
People saying, right, you know, I'm unfollowing you now.
You know, I thought you were all right, but you don't care about dead children, so that's it.
You know, a lot of virtue signaling and, you know, I'm a better person than you.
And the media knows that that's the effect it will have and it will be very divisive and it will get people at each other's throats and trying to out-emote each other.
You know, it's just the same tactics again and again and they work every time, unfortunately.
I think you're quite...
Do you think women are more susceptible to this stuff than men?
I think where it comes to the death of children, yes, definitely.
I think for very clear biological reasons, then yes.
I think that's also why women, there are more women vegans than men, because they tend to conflate, you know, cute farmyard animals with human children.
I think a lot of the vegan rhetoric is talking about these animals like they're, you know, toddlers or something.
So I do think that especially where child death is concerned, that yes, women are somewhat more susceptible to being manipulated that way.
Yeah.
Are you familiar with...
What's the book?
I tried to get her on the pod and she decided not to in the end.
The one who wrote about the connection between feminism and the kind of dark goddess cults and all the new age and stuff.
Very interesting.
Yeah.
Are you with me?
The feminist movement was created in order to destroy, undermine our culture.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's on the record, isn't it, that the Rockefellers bankrolled it.
There's that interview with, oh, one of the Rockefellers, I can't remember which one, but anyways, he was speaking to the film director, Aaron Russo, and he said...
Before he got off.
Sorry?
Before he got cancered.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
And he said, you know, my family bankrolled the women's movement for two reasons.
One, to double the tax base, you know, before feminism, you know, up to half of the population couldn't be taxed.
To get women in the workplace.
And two, to get the children into state education as early as possible so the indoctrination can begin.
And he's on the record of saying that.
And if you do a Google search for, like, the Rockefellers and feminism or the Rockefellers, the women's movement, you can see just how much money they hoard into that.
Yeah.
I mean, do you think women should have the vote?
Well...
It depends if you think the vote matters, doesn't it, really?
Do you think men should have the vote?
Because a lot of people on our side...
Actually, that's a good...
That is a good answer.
That is kind of the next level answer I've expected from you, Mary.
Well, yeah, I mean, voting is completely pointless and the system is so completely corrupted.
I suppose what I'm really asking is, could they have got as far as they have, as fast, if it hadn't been for women's suffrage, which I think enabled them to achieve their ends much earlier than they would otherwise have been able to do?
What I think they wanted to do with...
The suffrage movement was to turn households against each other.
So the idea was, when men had the vote, they'd vote for their household.
But then when you have two people in the same household and they've both got the vote, then they can cancel each other out and it can go further than that, as it often does, and they can really beat it at each other's throat.
So I think it was, you know, really about being divisive, you know, on the micro home level as much as at the macro political level.
And it's really common now, isn't it, for, you know, husbands and wives to have vastly differing political opinions.
Yes.
It's almost the norm, isn't it?
I would say.
It seems to be going that way.
Yeah.
I mean, I was riding with this woman the other day and we were talking about subjects that were no-go areas in her marriage for discussion with her husband.
And one of them was feminism.
And I thought, well, duh.
Men know that feminism is bollocks.
And the fact that you went to Oxbridge, this woman, doesn't in any way validate your crappy second-hand views on the injustice that women have suffered and whatever it is that you believe.
Yeah, they're very good at sowing these points of Division.
Contention.
I mean, it's brilliant.
I love them.
I'm actually going to get a job working for them.
I've had enough of this being a loser.
I think I want to go and join the...
I'm going to go and join the black nobility.
Right.
Because de la pole, it's kind of...
Where are you?
I don't get the impression you spend much time worrying about this, but do you have your theories on who runs the world?
Yes.
I think it's kind of a satanic cult, and it's religious scripting, and it's kind of a doomsday cult.
And Ashton was asking me about this, actually, you know, what do you think about it?
It's all the Jews.
And I said, well, obviously, it's not all Jews.
You know, a lot of Jews are widely assimilated in culture, have no idea about what's in the Talmud.
But I think there is, you know, a strong supremacist Jewish element to it.
And they have this idea that when the world becomes, you know, completely horrific and degenerate and depraved, then their Messiah will return.
So I think that that kind of religious scripting is very involved in the people who are orchestrating world events.
I think that the whole Jew thing is another massive, massive PSYOP distraction.
In that when you start looking into this, you realise that the Jews are a kind of an invented phenomenon.
It's based on a mistranslation of the Old Testament, which dates at least back to the King James Bible, the use of the word Jews.
As a translation for the Greek meaning Judeans.
So they've created this category of people which they're not really because there's no such thing.
And then they've said, but you can't be rude about these people ever.
And any criticism you make is the worst crime because the Holocaust or because whatever.
So it's a gigantic trap which has been set up.
And it's a shame when you hear people like Aisling falling into this trap because she hasn't done enough research, basically.
I mean, a lot of Christians have and a lot of Christians have bought into this whole thing that...
Modern Israel is the Israel that they were talking about in the New Testament, and that these are the descendants of the children of Israel, which they're not.
I mean, they've got no genetic connection, no historical connection.
They came in from elsewhere.
They're probably Edomites, not the Twelve Tribes, and the Edomites were the enemies.
So, insofar as any of this stuff matters, I mean, the area where it bothers me is that there are really bad people, really, really bad people doing evil things.
And they're going, yeah, but you can't have a go at us because, like, we've got this special jupe us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's just a word.
Are these people particularly devoted to the Torah?
Well, no, they're not.
I mean, definitely not.
They probably don't know anything about the Torah.
Maybe they're influenced by the Talmud more, which is just a sort of collection of sayings accumulated over the centuries by rabbis on a mission to prove that Christ wasn't the Messiah.
I mean, most people who call themselves Jews aren't even interested in the Religious element.
So I think it's a big distraction.
Yeah, well I think that's true for the vast majority of Jews are not religious, or if they are in a very lax way, but a small number of them seem to have these very odd religious delusions.
And a lot of Jews are very opposed to these other types of Jews.
You know, the Orthodox Jews are very opposed to the slaughter in Gaza, they're even opposed to the State of Israel.
So there seems to be a lot of confusion and a lot of divisions.
Yeah, I think there's a Jewish element, but I think, as you say, it's been overblown and ultimately what we're looking at is Satanism.
And when you've got people at the very top of the tree, you know, some of them might call themselves Christians and some might call themselves Jews or whatever, but ultimately this is Satanism.
I think that's probably something the truth movement, such as it is, does agree on, that at the very top what you've got is Satanists.
Yeah, well, the truth movement, apart from the people who think that this is all a kind of simulation, and it's all a giant computer game created by aliens, His existence has never been explained, or there's some kind of matrix.
I find it so much easier to understand the world when you think that it's Satan's ruling the roost by God's permission, and that all the people running the show temporarily are his minions.
It's so obvious, isn't it?
That's why they're into all the kind of the Sexually abusing children and extracting their adrenochrome.
Why they're into things like, you know, drugs and rock and roll and stuff.
They like the things of the world.
And that's their currency.
Their bribe money.
They're really open about it.
You know, Elon Musk dressed up as the devil's champion.
That's what he dressed up for Halloween 2022.
And I was describing himself as dark MAGA. And I just found this out today.
Do you know what Maga means in Latin?
Hang on.
Maga.
No.
Witch.
Oh, of course.
Mage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obviously, it's no coincidence that they chose that acronym.
So Elon Musk is literally describing himself as a dark witch.
Those are his words.
That's him.
When I saw this on Twitter, I thought, no, that can't be true.
But I went to Google Translate, put MAGA, Latin, into it, and there it is.
Witch.
Yeah.
We're going to move on to Trump in a minute.
But all the people who think that Elon Musk is fighting their corner because he's got this...
Slightly edgy social media site called X. And he says edgy things and he smokes weed on Joe Rogan.
And like, yeah, yeah, go almost trillionaire.
We love you.
You're one of us.
But we know that...
Musk's bloodlines.
And he's participated in all the horrible rituals that they used to traumatise these These seons of the Illuminati.
They want to sort of corrupt them, to turn them into psychopaths if they're not already, to create the kind of the fractured mindset which enables them to be different personalities.
He's been through all that.
Yeah.
So, he's not our friend.
And you're right, it was a tell when he dressed up as Baphomet or whatever for Halloween.
Yeah.
Yeah, just a little bit.
And, you know, he wants to put chips in all our brains.
So it's like, how much more obvious do these people have to be before people realise, you know, they're not our friends and they're telling us exactly what they are?
Because how are you supposed to interpret?
I am Dark Maga.
He's literally saying, I am a dark witch.
Literally.
But, you know, people will somehow rationalise this and, oh, it's all a joke.
Yeah.
I've been disappointed, I have to say.
By realising how many awake people think that Trump is the answer.
That Trump's going to change all this stuff.
What's your view?
It's just really shocking.
I mean, I was shocked in 2016.
You know, he seemed to me so obviously, you know, an actor and a fraud.
So I was very surprised when people fell for him that time.
But the only good thing to come out of that, so I thought, was, well, he's completely exposed himself now.
He's obviously just one of them, the father of the vaccine, Operation Warp Speed, all the rest of it.
So at least people have seen through him.
But they didn't.
So with people getting so enthusiastic about him this time round, I mean...
I just can't get my head around it from any rational perspective.
But as we discussed earlier, you know, people often don't come to their conclusions based on rationale, evidence, extrapolation from the past, but on their feelings.
You know, he's really, really very good, as you'd expect a talented actor to be at whipping people up into, you know, a frenzy and...
So, someone said on Twitter that, you know, if you don't believe that Trump is the real deal, you are a Hmong, and it's because you haven't read enough Q source material, and you haven't watched any Trump rallies, because then you'd know.
How many people do you think...
What percentage of the awake people still think Q is a thing, is a trustworthy guide?
It does seem to be very low now.
I remember when social media was just saturated with Q. I think that has kind of mostly dropped off now, but there still seems to be a loyalist hardcore who are still going for that.
Oh, did I tell you what I learned the other day?
That White Hat...
Is a Freemasonic term for people of the 33rd degree.
Oh, really?
Yes, they wear white hats.
So, I try to understand why people would want to believe that there are white hats out there who are going to come to save us.
But, I mean...
What I don't get is the cognitive dissonance required to believe that Trump is a hero.
Do you remember?
Because unlike you, I was really invested in Trump in 2016.
This was before my full awakening.
And I thought, yeah, he's going to stick it to the deep state.
And he's our only hope against it.
Because even then, it seemed like...
Helm's Deep had almost fallen everything that one believed in.
Western civilization was under threat.
And Trump was the outsider.
Trump surprised everybody with surprise, surprise victory against Hillary, who everyone thought was going to win.
And so I believed all that.
And I got very upset with...
I think we can agree was obviously stolen.
It was just rigged in an embarrassing way.
This was the moment that really shocked me.
It wasn't the stealing of the election that tipped me over the edge.
It was the failure of Of the media to acknowledge that the election had been stolen.
All my sort of media colleagues, who I used to think of my allies, were sort of gaslighting me, like, you know, this hasn't been stolen, this is all legitimate.
Yeah, Trump was a bad thing.
Biden, this incontinent child liquor, he had the popular vote, even though he hadn't been on the campaign trail.
People so loved him that he got more votes than the most popular.
Yeah, no.
And it traumatized me.
I mean, almost like I've been put through some kind of MKUltra program.
It made my head explode for a while.
And I think that from most people, their awakening process starts with trauma somehow.
It just seems to work.
Anyway...
In that period where I was still a believer in Trump, I remember...
You probably won't remember this because you probably weren't as obsessive as I was.
I remember before he left office...
Trump gave a sort of impromptu press conference at an airstrip, I think, in Texas.
And he said something like, you know, I'm going to go away for a while, but it's all OK. And I'm going to come back.
It's going to be, you know...
Don't worry, I'm not gone.
And looking back, I think that was the revelation of the method, if you like.
He was outlining what was going to happen next.
He knew that the election was going to be stolen.
He knew that four years of the window licker were going to happen.
And it was designed to get the Trump base more riled.
And now he's back.
And he's got this...
Carte Blanche to do what he wants now, because hell, he survived two assassination attempts.
He was cheated out of the last election for four years that should rightfully have been his.
The guy deserves it.
He's our man.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
I think you've described exactly what's happened and why people are so passionately defending him as they are.
So...
My theory on that is I think that he's going to be quote-unquote assassinated for real.
He won't actually be assassinated for real, but they'll tell us that he has been and he's really dead this time.
Because I think they want to preserve his status, this hero martyr who's going to save America, but he never got the chance to because he got killed.
And then they can bring in J.D. Vance, who they've been very explicit about.
He is the future.
Donald Trump's sons have already said he's going to be the next president.
And I think, well, that might be a bit sooner than a lot of people think.
And then J.D. Vance, you know, can do all these dastardly things.
People's hero worship for Trump could remain intact.
Like, oh, well, Trump never would have done this, but, you know, he just didn't get in and he didn't know what J.D. Vance was going to be up to.
So that is my prediction, because I don't think that they kept fake assassinating him for no reason.
It's to prep us to kind of accept it when it happens for, quote unquote, real.
So I think that's going to happen.
At some point, maybe even quite soon, we'll be told that's it.
You've got insiders.
Douglas Murray is clearly in on the game.
Yeah, yeah.
And he said something like, yes, there's going to be more assassination attempts.
Right.
How do you know that, Douglas?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did your friend Bebe tip you off, maybe?
Yeah.
So do you think that the...
The successful assassination is going to be used as an excuse to start the hot stage of World War III, or is it going to be used to start the Civil War or just the general period of authoritarian clampdown?
Or all the above, maybe.
Well, yes, quite possibly all the above.
I think we'll be told that it's Iran who've assassinated Trump because that's already, you know, saturated in the press.
These assassins had links to Iran and, you know, the intelligence agencies have foiled these plots by Iran to assassinate Trump.
So that's, you know, we're big prep for that.
And concurrently with this Trump victory, suddenly Iran is in the press again because of that A girl in her underwear who was walking around her university in Iran, and she's saying this is a protest against Iran's morality police.
And, you know, the Iranian regime is obviously horrific, but most people in the West don't spend too much time thinking about it.
They don't know very much about it.
But then suddenly, it's in the press, and lots and lots of high-profile people are going, oh my god, this is so terrible what's happening in Iran.
You know, this girl is such a hero.
And this seems to me to be the lead-up to, well, it looks like Iran, you know, needs some Western liberation.
Now, So we're already being, you know, called to look at Iran and see how terrible they are.
If they then assassinate Trump, while America's in this mass love-in of how wonderful Trump is and how he's going to save them all, you know, the reaction from the American public will be unquantifiable.
It'll probably be even, you know, more intense than when JFK was supposedly assassinated.
And they will be absolutely united, all the people who voted for Trump at least, in demanding retribution.
At that point, you know, America would want to retaliate against Iran.
Obviously, they would have the support of Israel, who would be thrilled.
And I think that could be the trigger event that facilitates the hot stage of World War Three.
Yeah.
I must say, I have never felt so fond of international enemies like Iran, China, Russia, as I have in the last few years when I've realised that they're just scapegoats.
They're just randomly picked out of the air as the designated baddies.
I mean...
I expect life in Iran is actually generally pretty alright.
No?
I don't know about that.
We should go.
Well, you should go.
Iran's meant to be very beautiful.
It's beautiful, yes.
Yeah.
Look, I feel sorry for them as the underdogs.
Although, you reckon that this next world war...
We, the West, are going to be trounced, don't you?
Yeah.
By Russia, China and the rest of the axis of evil.
Oh, absolutely.
I think, you know, if you look at their military capabilities compared to ours, it's just a, it's a foregone conclusion.
And, you know, supposedly it's scripted by Albert Pike.
He said, you know, this Third World War is destined to be won by the East.
So I I do think that they are set to win, scripture to win.
Yeah, that's depressing, isn't it?
But then, do you read the Bible?
I've read bits and pieces.
I was brought up Catholic, but I haven't looked at it for quite some time.
It's good, because the good is win at the end.
Sure, in the end, the goodies will win.
It's saying that it'll all be alright in the end.
If it's not alright, it's not the end.
So sure, absolutely, good will eventually triumph over evil.
But I think we might have to go through quite a bit more evil first.
Well, yeah.
That's the bummer, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
I remember when it all started, this stuff.
Well, you know...
When the COVID craziness started, and I think a lot of us woke up, it sounds like you've been awake for quite some time before then.
When was your awakening?
It was around 2012.
And what was the trigger?
Well, the big trigger was when the university I attended tried to force vaccinate me.
I mean, I was in the process of, you know, challenging orthodox beliefs already.
But when that happened, I thought...
This seems a really draconian overreaction.
So I went to study abroad.
I did a year studying abroad in America and you had to send your vaccination records.
So I sent them from when I was a child.
I had the so-called normal ones when I was born.
But when I'd been enrolled for a few weeks, they sent me a really angry email in all caps from the medical centre saying there was this huge anomaly in my records and I had to come and see them immediately.
And I was thinking, God, have I got some, you know, Deadly disease or something.
And they said, you've only had one measles vaccine.
I said, so?
They said, we need to have two.
I said, well, I don't want to have two.
And they said, if you don't have a second measles vaccine, we'll expel you from the university.
And because I was on a student visa, that would also mean I was deported.
So I thought, oh, my God, this is really kind of an extraordinary reaction to, you know, an insignificant injection for a benign condition.
So I had a big argument with them.
And I said to them, look, I do not want to have this vaccine.
The only thing a vaccine can do is produce antibody titus in the blood.
That's the only thing it can do.
That's how it supposedly works.
So I want you to give me a blood test and see if I've got these antibody titus already, because if I've already got them, then I don't need the vaccine.
Correct?
And they very reluctantly agreed with me.
But what they said was so dark.
They said, you know, it would be easier just to have the vaccine.
Great, easy.
Risk my life, risk paralysis, and all these terrible conditions, rather than having a simple blood test.
They did agree to give me the blood test, but they made me pay for it, whereas they would have given me the vaccine for free.
So I had this blood test, and they said I already had these titers, whatever that means.
So they backed down.
But I thought, you know, they...
They really went for me in such a draconian way.
And I was a mature student, so I felt able to stand up, stand my ground and just say, well, no, I'm just not having this.
But I thought an 18 year old will probably just crumble.
So it was that event that made me think there's something really, really wrong going on here.
You know, of course, there is no single measles vaccine anymore.
So this would have been the MMR. You know, the MMR is connected with all these terrible health outcomes.
And I thought, why would they be so aggressive about forcing this, you know, On somebody, they wouldn't let me have a blood test.
They tried to bribe me to get me to take it.
So that's when I really properly went down the vaccine rabbit hole.
So the first chapter of my awakening was mostly concerned with vaccines.
And my first website was a vaccine information resource for students.
Because what I realised, there's a lot of vaccine information targeted at parents, but not really at younger people.
And I could see how much aggressive push there was for student aged people to have these vaccines.
So I started A website aimed at like 16 to 24 year old students, just giving them the facts about vaccines.
So I was mostly focused on vaccines until...
I was interested in other things, but I didn't really do anything publicly about any other topics until 2020.
And that's when I started my MIRI-AF website and started to write articles on all sorts of other subjects.
I can't remember now why I asked you that question.
What was I talking about?
Do you remember?
When was my awakening?
But that was a digression, that question, and I'm trying to remember what was leading up to the digression.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Are there any so-called conspiracy theories that you don't entertain?
Aliens.
Yeah, that's bollocks.
They're not real.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, but is that...
Oh, I see, I suppose, yeah, you'd call it the Roswell.
I mean, I'm sure there is a kind of...
Something's happened at Roswell, but these are demons.
They're not.
They're not.
Do you believe in space, by the way?
No.
No.
Tell me why.
I mean, I'm with you, but tell me why you don't believe in space.
Well, you know, the Red Hot Chili Peppers told us space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement.
That's a line from a Red Hot Chili Peppers song.
And I think that's, you know, if you really look into it, that's what the evidence shows.
It's fictional.
And that's why, you know, in the 60s, we started having all this Star Trek and Star Wars.
They're trying to put into our minds, oh, this is Gene Roddenberry.
Do you know about him?
He was a Freemason, wasn't he?
He was not just a Freemason.
He was a Satanist.
He was interviewed before he died.
And he said, who have been the big influences on your life?
And he said, well, Satan.
I really appreciate Satan.
And they said, well, why?
He said, he taught me how to lie.
I found that really helpful.
I'm sorry.
And he was massively into the United Nations agenda.
That was what the whole idea of this Star Trek was going to promote.
So yeah, I'm with you.
What about...
This is one of my new favourites, but it's quite hard to grapple with.
All the World's Fairs...
Of the late 19th and early 20th centuries and all of the buildings that were erected and all the free energy that they had before Edison came in.
Have you been down that rabbit hole?
No, not really.
I've heard this kind of general stuff, but not in any detail.
I'd kind of like your ruthless analytical mind to be deployed on this subject, please, Miriam.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is look into that.
And I'm not sure how it relates to mud floods, whether that's a separate thing or not.
Do you know about mud floods?
Not much.
No.
That's the thing.
And Tartaria?
I do follow someone on Twitter with that account name who's revealing all this stuff about lost civilizations, but yeah, I haven't got into it in any detail.
And sorry to keep testing you on all these things, but you know, while I've got you, how old do you think the world is?
I think it's a lot younger than we're told.
And obviously we know, you know, there's no dinosaurs and all this kind of stuff is nonsense and evolution is nonsense.
So given they lie to us about literally everything, obviously they're lying to us about the age of the earth, aren't they?
Of course they are.
It sounds like you believe a lot of the things that hardcore Christians believe, but you're not wearing the Christian badge at the moment.
Is that right?
Yeah, I mean, I haven't been excommunicated, so officially, you know, I'm still a member of the Catholic Church.
Yeah, I wouldn't describe myself as a practicing Christian.
And I do believe a lot of the things that Christians believe, as you say.
But yeah, I wouldn't wear the badge.
I think the way to look at it, if I may help you in the development of your faith, is you think about how the baddies participate in the satanic rituals and, you know, sacrifice the odd child, drink their blood, and do all the things that are required of them by their dark lord in return for advancement.
And that the great thing that Christians have at their disposal is that all they have to do is speak to God and ask His help No child, not even any bulls have to be sacrificed.
He's not interested in that.
He says in Psalm 50, God says to him, I'm really not interested in eating the flesh of bulls and drinking the blood of goats.
Who do you think I am?
I made this stuff.
All I want you to do is appreciate me and when you call upon me, I'll be there for you.
And it seems to me so much better a deal than the one that the dark side have chosen.
It's like...
I don't really want to be raping children and drinking their blood.
I'd much rather be...
Thank you, God.
Please, please will you help this person?
Will you do that to that person?
I was trying to explain this to the girl on the horse the other day.
And do you know about the miracle story about Donna's tits?
No?
This made me so happy.
So at my last event, the Mike Eden event, I met this girl called Donna.
You know, you get this sort of disparate group of people who are looking for late night drinks and we're wandering around and I got to talk to Donna.
And Donna was very sad.
And I said, why are you sad, Donna?
And she said, well, I've been diagnosed with breast cancer.
And I've got to have a full mastectomy.
And I said, well, that's a shame, Donna.
You've got nice tits.
And she said, yeah, yeah, I know.
I'm going to miss them.
And I said, well, that's awful.
Maybe we should all pray for you.
I mean, actually, I used the word tits.
This all came from Donna.
It wasn't me kind of being a dirty old man.
It was the in-joke of the evening, you know, after a few drinks.
So I put this message up on my Telegram channel saying, please, can everyone pray for Donna's tits?
And there was an element, the more kind of, say, sanctimonious Christian element.
He said, I really don't think you should be talking about a woman's breasts in this way.
And I said, look, yeah, it was a joke, you weren't there, and Donna's on board with it.
But let's all pray for Donna's tits.
Anyway, I heard nothing of it, and I didn't for, well, six months at least.
And then I got this message from Donna the other day, and she said, passed on by somebody else, please can you tell James that I had a kind of miracle?
At the last minute, they changed my surgeon to a female surgeon who was determined not to go for a full mastectomy.
So she just took out a lump and I've still got my rest.
And I thought, okay, so one could say that the prayers had nothing to do with it.
But one could equally say, well, I believe that God intervened and saved Donna's tits.
You could well be right.
And I do believe in God, by the way, and also in the power of prayer.
I absolutely believe in that.
I've experienced that myself.
I've heard many stories like the one you just told.
Have you?
Yeah.
I just...
I'm not convinced that God is a Christian or, you know, any other...
Oh, I see.
Right.
I like that they're not convinced God's a Christian.
Yeah.
What do you think he is, Dan?
Is it...
I don't suppose that he identifies with any religion.
You know, he's just God, isn't he?
That's a perfect identity.
You kind of don't need to go any further.
I don't think...
The problem with that line...
Because I have to say, I have trouble accepting that all the lovely Buddhists or Hindus that one has met, or Muslims, or even...
Atheists who believe in kind of white witchery.
I know you're supposed to condemn all that, but there's part of me which thinks, well, God doesn't want these people to burn in hell, and he's not going to make them burn in hell.
He's got their back.
But there is a contradiction in seeing God as this kind of figurehead of all religions.
A, that's what the new age people want.
They want to abolish...
Well, you've written about this.
You've written about that the game plan is to present Christianity and Islam as these two extremist religions which cause so much trouble that the best thing to do is for them to be...
Wiped out of existence.
We have a kind of a world religion which will make all the bad stuff go away.
I think that is the kind of the satanic Luciferian master plan.
But just briefly, you can talk to me more about that in a moment.
But just briefly, religions like the Eastern religions, Sort of posit that we are just specs in the universe.
I mean, I'm obviously trivializing their position, but that we are just part of the infinite oneness of everything.
You can't really reconcile that With the biblical worldview, which is that God created us in his image, we are very, very special.
We are an expression of God.
We're not just these kind of random little blobs in the ether.
So I'm not sure that I don't see how God can make us in his image and be on board with, say, Buddhism.
It doesn't compute somehow.
I don't think God is on board with Buddhism.
I don't think Buddhists believe in God, do they?
Because Buddha, obviously, was a man.
Yeah.
It's obvious that Christianity is particularly threatening to the predator class.
It's very clear.
They really hate it, don't they?
Yeah, definitely.
Why?
So what I could concede is that Christianity is probably closer to the truth than other religions, because they don't go after all religions equally.
They're far from it.
They seem to be fine with Buddhism, for example.
But they've really got to be in their bonnet about Christianity, and they're really going for it.
And Islam.
But I think that their number one target is Christianity.
Yes.
Well, occasionally one listens to podcasts with, or even does podcasts with, people who used to be involved in Satanism, sometimes at quite a high level.
And it's clear, listening to them, that they make it their business to go out and mess with Christians.
And they are the main target.
So you ask yourself, if the people who run the world, if Satan's in charge, which he is, temporarily, and if the people who run the world most hate Christians, what does that tell you?
It tells you, as you say, that Christians are...
Over the target.
Yeah, I'd agree with you.
It's very obvious that that's the number one target of their ayah.
And, you know, even though religion in general has, you know, gone out of fashion, it's still reasonably fashionable to say, for instance, you're a Buddhist or even a Hindu or a Sikh, you know, those are all kind of okay.
But a Christian, you know, that's very uncool.
It's very fuddy-duddy.
And, you know, they've created all these stereotypes for a reason.
Yes.
So what do you think is that?
Because you've written quite a lot about this.
What is the, where are we going?
You're talking about Gilead, aren't you?
And things like that.
So this is why I think that Trump is going to be, you know, fake assassinated.
They'll tell us it's real, he's really dead.
Because I think they want to bring J.D. Vance in.
And I think they want J.D. Vance to ultimately destroy Christianity.
J.D. Vance until very recently was an atheist.
Suddenly, he's supposedly converted to Catholicism and become this very kind of hardline traditionalist.
And, you know, he's said stuff about, you know, women and voting that's enraged a lot of people and saying he's this, you know, unreconstructed chauvinist and all the rest of it.
Now, when I watched The Handmaid's Tale, you know, it's a very big budget, everyone was talking about it, it had big stars in.
And whenever you've got an offering like that, it's almost always because it's predictive programming.
You know, it's spent a lot of money on it, they've got everyone looking at it, they want you to pay attention to this.
Now, what happened in The Handmaid's Tale was we had a scenario which is very like modern-day America now.
They had, you know, a liberal order with all the liberal shibboleths in place, And there was a small, small faction of cool young conservative influencers.
And they were going around the colleges and giving these talks and saying, you know, this liberalism has gone too far.
You know, we're not asking for anything crazy.
We just want to, you know, restore some common sense.
And they were getting lots and lots of, you know, converts and praise.
And they seem to me very similar to this cadre of cool young conservative influencers we've had in the States, like Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro.
And so they win this political revolution, ultimately, these cool young conservative influencers.
And then as soon as they're in power, they drop the, you know, cool and moderate facade and they become like these tyrants.
So I think that this is predictive programming setting us up for what's going to happen in America in the foreseeable future.
I don't think it will be done under Trump because, as I said, I think they want to maintain his hero-savior credentials.
To kill him off is that he's then, you know, He's got this perfect image of this guy who would have saved America, but they killed him, so he can't.
Then the reigns are passed over to J.D. Vance, and I think he's being set up to be this ultra-extremist religious figure who is going to be very draconian and, you know, be seen to be taking the country back into the Dark Ages in a very similar way to what was spelled out for us in The Handmaid's Tale.
And the purpose of this is to get people to kick back.
So then the liberal left can say, you know, you see, we've always told you that this is what these Christians wanted.
We always told you that as soon as they got power, you know, they would bring this in.
Because I think it's very telling that he used to be an atheist.
If he'd been a lifelong Christian, it's very persuasive that he really believes in it.
But until very recently, he was an atheist.
So I think they're using him and he's agreed to play this part to represent Christianity in the worst possible way.
So the liberal left can kick back against it and kind of be vindicated, because this is what they've always been warning of.
They're always saying, aren't they, we're going to have the Handmaid's Tale, we're going to have the Handmaid's Tale.
Well, if we do actually have something a bit like that, then their star is going to go into the ascendancy.
So, yeah, that's what I see.
Right.
So, J.D. Vance introduces all this kind of Gilead-type Handmaid's Tale Sort of caricature Christianity stuff.
And then what?
There's going to be a backlash to that, which will result in...
I think what they want us to do is campaign to have religion completely removed at the state level.
So they're already going that way in Iran.
So Iran became this Islamic theocracy in 1979.
By all accounts, of course, you know, we never know if we're being misled, but by all accounts it is quite brutal and harsh over there and this, you know, morality of police telling people how to dress and all the rest of it.
The vast majority of Iranians do not like the system and they're petitioning for a secular government.
So I think what the endgame is with both Islam and Christianity is to have these governments in place which are very extreme, you know, they're very fundamentalist, they've got these very twisted interpretations of what these religions should be like and then use them to oppress their people to get the people kicked back, which is effective in Iran and I think that's what is going to be effective in America.
So what's interesting when you look at this so-called axis of evil, you've got Iran, which is very religious.
And then you've got China, which isn't religious at all.
Their government is not just secular, but they're explicitly atheist, and they've very strongly encouraged their population to be atheist.
So I think the endgame is to basically move us all towards being like China, which of course is communist as well.
So we know what the endgame is.
You know, John Lennon spelled it out for us in the New World Order blueprint that was imagined.
No countries, no possessions and no religions.
I think that's what we're moving towards, but at the moment there are a lot of very religious people and those two religions, in particular Christianity and Islam, are very politically powerful.
They need to get rid of them and I think the way they're going to get rid of them is to push them to these extremes so people demand that they're abolished.
Right.
Yeah, I know what I was going to say to you before I asked you the distracting thing.
In about 2020, When I was waking up, I thought, this is going to all happen really quickly.
I mean, I would never have imagined that I would be still alive in, what are we, 2024?
I thought it would all be over by now.
I thought, I thought, but it seems to be, they seem to be dragging it out.
Do you have a sort of an idea of the timeline here?
Well, I think it's a 10-year plan.
I think it's Agenda 2030, isn't it?
So I think that they've got in place a 10-year plan.
So they're just about coming halfway through it.
I think, you know, they're not perfect, are they?
And they mess up and they might be a bit behind schedule.
So I think...
That's the understatement, by the way, of the century.
They're not perfect.
These Satanists, they're not perfect, you know.
I know, but I think sometimes...
You know, people on our side, including me, can be sometimes guilty of thinking, oh, they're just omnipotent, and if they want it, you know, they're going to get it.
So I think it's important for us to realise they're just people, they're very flawed, and they don't get things just because they want them.
And they certainly don't get things in the time frame that they want them.
So I think that they're, you know, ideally want to have most of their New World Order in place by 2030.
Whether they will succeed is anyone's guess.
But I think there's going to be, you know, Extraordinary change in the years now leading up to 2030.
People keep saying about Donald Trump, now there's going to be big changes.
And I'm thinking there certainly are.
Be careful what you wish for, eh?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
The corollary of that argument you've just advanced there about how we shouldn't give these people...
We shouldn't credit them with powers greater than they've got.
I've heard this used by people in the below-the-line comments, in my articles, by people saying, of course they're not capable of chemtrails and weather manipulation.
We think that they have the power of gods, but it's just ridiculous.
Of course they don't.
Duh, they do.
They're 70 years.
This is what the whistleblowers tell us, isn't it?
The insiders.
They say that the technology used by these people is roughly 70 years in advance of where we are in the public domain.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Before we go, what do you think happened in Antarctica?
I think all the answers are there.
That's why it's so protected and, you know, we just can't get anywhere near it and then nobody really knows.
And I thought that Owen Benjamin made a very insightful point about why do the elite dress up as penguins?
It's a very interesting point.
Also, pandas, they seem to like the black and white.
A, for the kind of the child abuse metaphor, but also I think because of the black and white, the dualism of the Masonic chessboard, checkerboard.
So they're in...
because they love their symbols, don't they?
Yeah.
I mean...
We live in this...
Do you not find it quite difficult living in this world where most people are going, la la la la la, shall I buy a house?
Oh, look at the mortgage rates at the moment.
Will they go up?
Is property going to...
They're still stuck in this...
This world of distractions.
Where should we go on holiday next?
Because they're never going to close all the airports and stop flying.
That's not going to happen.
And we have to bear the burden of knowing all the stuff that we know.
Yeah.
You know, there's a school of thought that maybe the people who don't get it aren't supposed to.
And we have been put in this position...
For a reason, and that we have got the capacity to withstand having this knowledge and that these people perhaps have not and that, you know, NPCs or whatever they are, they're just not equipped to handle it.
And I do think also that the power of hypnosis is extremely strong and a lot of people are very susceptible to it.
And one argument that I have heard about people who are supposedly awake is that neurologically they're less susceptible to hypnosis than the general population.
That could be one explanation for why we're able to see through things and other people aren't.
Because there's a huge spectrum of susceptibility to hypnosis, and any hypnotist will tell you that.
Some people just don't go for it.
Yes, I went to see a hypnotist and I was pretty good, but he did point out to me I wasn't the best.
I wasn't his ideal candidate, so maybe.
I was thinking when you were saying that about T.S. Eliot saying humankind cannot bear very much reality.
You wonder about all these, you know, on the mirror principle, if you know the name, they're in the game.
I mean, do you think all the authors and poets, are they in on it?
I think historically it's completely different.
You know, my little slogan is really referring to the modern media saturation with the immense power that the mainstream media has.
You know, if we go back to 1742 or whatever, I'm not sure that the same situation was going on there.
And also kind of authors and poets are not famous in the way that, you know, Russell Brand is.
You know, if you...
Well, a baron would have been.
Right.
Byron would have been the Russell brand of his day, wouldn't he?
Yeah, I mean, it's a very good question.
I haven't looked into it in any great detail.
How far does this control mechanism go back?
You know, how long have they been having these controlled opposition operatives?
Did they have all these authors, you know, Dickens, GK Chesterton, were they all under the thumb?
I honestly don't know is the answers.
So I will look into that and come up with a hypothesis.
Well, you know how you went down the rabbit hole because of university and jabs, and I went down it because of the media's failure to call out the story?
Have I? Yeah, oh, I can hear you, but you're...
Okay, that's fine.
It'll record locally, so it should be fine.
I went down the rabbit hole because I was so appalled by the media's failure to acknowledge the stolen election, although I don't care about it now.
It just means nothing.
But my friend Alexander Waugh went down the rabbit hole When he realised that Shakespeare was just a sort of construct, that he was just this name given to this committee of playwrights, writers probably headed by Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford.
That's Alexander's theory, and I tend to agree that all the other people are champions of Bacon, Francis Bacon.
But If that was happening in the 16th century, late 16th, early 17th century, one can't really assume that the gap between then and now was a sort of a period of they suddenly stopped doing this stuff.
Everyone in the cultural realm was suddenly completely honest and above board.
I think if they were doing it in Shakespeare's day, I think deception is the way that these people have always ruled the world, and that therefore all the means of...
Of controlling the public's imagination would have been deployed to this end.
So that means everyone.
I mean, that means presumably Aeschylus and Sophocles and Plato, I guess.
Yeah, well, that would be the logical conclusion.
You are right.
And Homer, whoever he was.
Apparently the Iliad and the Odyssey were written so far apart that they couldn't possibly have been written by the same guy, I don't know.
But then that would make sense, wouldn't it?
I mean, if Shakespeare didn't really exist as the person he's presented as, I'm sure Homer was just another figment, convenient notion.
Yeah.
Well, this is why I think you and I are right to be so out there and completely hardcore.
I mean, one of the things I really love about your Substack, which I must promote, you do give good Substack.
Thank you.
Do you get given a hard time from people who say, no, Miri, you've pushed it too far this time.
You're too extreme.
You're too cynical.
Oh, all the time.
Constantly.
Are you surprised me?
Yeah, well, it goes with the territory, doesn't it?
Constantly being told, oh, you know, I used to respect your work, but now you've said this, you know, I can never countenance you again.
All the time.
And a I'm sure you must get that as well, and I think that most people with a platform get that, so you've just got to...
And I think what the irony is, you know, obviously anyone with any kind of platform gets accused of being controlled opposition.
So people accuse me of being controlled opposition while simultaneously, like, insulting me and kind of trying to control what I write.
So they're trying to make me control opposition because they're basically saying, you know, if you keep writing about this and I'm going to withdraw my support, well, that's attempting to control me.
I find generally it's not the people who are actually paying ready money who are making these threats.
It's the floating voters.
Yes.
And you think, well...
It is true.
So I think...
And you know, even if somebody who was paying me money, I mean, I've had this on rare occasions, particularly in the early days.
I remember one of my biggest Patreon subscribers was furious with me when I started engaging in conspiracy theories.
And my response was, well, okay, bye.
I'm not going to change my style.
I'm not going to stop asking the questions I want to ask just because you are paying me money.
You don't owe me.
Go away.
Exactly.
But people do get absolutely furious, you know, and they throw these tantrums and spit the dummy and throw the toys, and it happens all the time.
But, you know, there's that very little handy phrase, I don't know the secret of success, but I do know the secret of failure, and it's trying to please everyone.
No problem.
Oh, the wisdom of Miri.
Tell us where we can find your stuff.
Okay, so my sub-stack is miri.substack.com and then I've got my website at miriaf.co.uk and my Twitter handle is at Mattersinformed.
Yeah, you do give good tweet as well.
I can recommend those of you who don't know, which can be very few now.
I mean, you are actually quite a popular figure on the circuit.
I gather that there have been events where you've been mobbed.
Yes, you're talking about the Alistair Williams gig, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah.
I was quite surprised.
A lot of people did recognise me as obviously the hat.
But yeah, that was a very lovely experience.
I haven't asked you about the hat.
Is it part of your disguise?
Well, yes, you know, as a Russian agent, I have to look the part.
But my hats seem to please people.
They seem very happy when I wear them and I'm disappointed if I don't.
So now it's just become a kind of...
I notice you wore...
I hope that's real fur, by the way.
I don't know, actually.
It was a present, so I'm not sure.
For the Aisling podcast, you wore a black hat.
You wore a beanie hat.
But for me, you've worn the much more feminine and delightful furry hat.
So thank you for that.
You're welcome.
Good.
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