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how are you How are you?
I'm glad you're happy because my brief encounters with you on the internet, sometimes you get quite grumpy.
Have you noticed?
I get grumpy because you're obviously referring to my telegram group where people were asking for help.
Yes.
I get a bit grumpy because People seem to want to have everything handed to them on a plate.
And the point of what I'm trying to get across is that you really have to spend time understanding what you're doing.
Yeah.
I can see that.
Before we go into that in more detail, I want to learn more about you.
You're called allegedly Dave.
Do you give your real name?
Name's Dave Murphy.
I was called allegedly Dave because this was back in the days of the free man on the land movement and what happened was I was being interviewed by a guy in Australia and I'd been on his show a few times before And he was like, every time I went on your show, I was a different name.
So he said, oh, what should I call you this time?
You know what?
I'm going to call you allegedly Dave.
So it stuck.
And it stuck.
So what is the Free Man on the Land movement?
This was, it started around about 2008.
Went around to about 2013.
It was people starting to realize that we were being fooled by this legal system and there was a whole load of people who were basically testing the fences and trying different things out to find remedy in the legal system.
Yeah, yeah.
And the big question is, did they find remedy?
Is it doable?
I'll tell you why I ask this.
I've spoken previously to somebody else who does sort of more or less what you do.
And whenever this topic comes up, I find in my internet chat groups, there's always loads of people who say, this stuff doesn't work.
It's a con trick.
It's designed to fool us.
It's designed to Take us into a trap and and and don't go there and particularly I find you get this from lawyers From from say I know the law.
I know how it works and I can tell you blah blah blah I imagine you must get that a lot as well Yeah, but lawyers don't know the law they know the legal system law and a legal system are two completely different things and And so they're trained in the legal system, and they know nothing about the underlying law behind it.
And law is superior to the legal system.
so um yeah when we come at them with things like uh you know um no things we talk about they know nothing about it yeah yeah it i i I suppose the analogy I would use whether it's fair or not i don't know but it's a bit like if you went to most doctors and said to them look
i've been hearing this stuff about vaccines that they're complete bollocks that actually they're not they don't that they don't benefit you at all that they actually destroy your immune system and the doctor would say that's nonsense that that's that's That's just from people who don't understand how medicine works.
And they'll assure you that with their expertise as a doctor, they know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Well, go figure.
I think a closer analogy would be if you went to a doctor with a natural healing modality and the doctor will say, no, no, that's rubbish, I'm the expert, you don't know, you know, you haven't got this certificate on the wall, but you know, the truth is you heal people with this thing and their potions and pills just keep you sick.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I suspect that you've been down the rabbit hole a lot longer than I have.
What's your story?
When were you a normie and what changed you?
Well, I was a normie up until about 2003-4-ish.
I was at 9-11, so I was literally watching it from across the river.
And, you know, it was horrible and everything, but I was at work the next day and, you know, went back into my life.
And it wasn't until about three years later I was Helping my daughter with her physics homework.
What were you doing in New York on 9-11?
I lived in New Jersey.
I lived in America for 15 years.
I went over as a computer programmer on Wall Street.
So, I was there to fix the Y2K bug.
- Oh, I'll go. - Ah.
That's a can of worms.
Was Y2K, that was a con, wasn't it?
Yeah, essentially it was.
I mean, there would have been a few problems here and there with accounting more than anything.
But generally, you know, planes weren't going to fall out of the sky and all that stuff.
No, but anyway, you made some money out of it, so that's fair enough.
And what did you see?
I'm not even sure whether they were real aeroplanes or not.
Well, whether they were holograms or what.
I mean, what did you actually see?
Just this kind of smoke, I suppose.
No, no.
I didn't see the first plane.
It was a secretary came running in to the office and said, a plane's hit the World Trade Center, so we all run out.
And what I saw was the second plane flying low over the Statue of Liberty and it It hit the side of the building that was facing away from me.
So I didn't actually see the plane hit it, but I saw the plane come towards it.
Explosion.
No plane came out the other side.
From my perspective, it looked like a plane.
What can I sign?
Okay.
And you were saying about your daughter was doing her physics homework?
Yeah.
And the problem was there's a marble on the tabletop, and the tabletop's a metre high.
How long does it take the marble to hit the floor?
So we did a few problems.
My daughter said, I've got it, Dad.
I've got it.
I said, hold on a second.
Let's imagine it's a bowling ball on the top of the World Trade Centre.
And we worked it out and it came out to be about 10 seconds.
So I went back and watched the films and the whole building fell at about 10 seconds.
So, how does a building fall through itself at the same speed as a bowling ball through empty air?
So I thought, you know, it's impossible.
I thought I was the only one who realised there was something wrong with 9-11.
That is the weirdest route into it.
I mean, everyone's got their different ways into it, whether it's the video of the so-called Dancing Israelis, or whether it's the Building 7.
A lot of people have gone into it that way, but I've never had anyone who's come into it through a physics experiment conducted by father and daughter.
Okay, so that was the beginning of your Journey down down the rabbit hole and then what you've you do what you research lots of other things and found What well they're not true either.
It was like it's like I'm doing a jigsaw puzzle So you you start off in one corner doing 9-11 pieces and there are other bits that lead off anything in what was that?
you know and eventually you start finding other pieces that fill that bit up and so 9-11 led to finding out who was behind it, which led to the New World Order, which then led to the monetary system, which then led to the legal system, which then led to the healthcare system, and so on, and so on, and so on.
Yeah.
I think that the legal system is an interesting one, because it's...
I speak as you do when you're a complete, you know, tinfoil hat nutcase to lots of fellow tinfoil hat nutcases and people who are comfortable with the idea maybe that, well, the moon landing is a fake and comfortable that 9-11 was a fake as well to justify the so-called war on terror and etc, etc.
People can sort of get their hands around that, but they still seem to have trouble accepting that the legal system that they've been taught is the envy of the world in Britain.
That somehow that too does not dispense justice, that that was arranged in the interests of the same dark forces that are responsible for all the other stuff.
Do you find that?
Yeah, but The problem is that every one of these systems have this thin veneer of, you know, righteousness and honesty and all that, that everyone buys into.
But if they don't take the time to scratch beneath the surface, as soon as they do they realize, actually it's not what we thought it was, it's the opposite.
And it's the same with every single one of these systems.
Yeah.
It gives the impression that it's fair, honest and just, but anyone who's come up against it themselves will realise actually it's not about justice, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and it's a shame, isn't it?
Because I know lots of really decent doctors, surgeons, lots of friends are lawyers, and none of them, you know, you don't look at them and go, okay, they're lawyers, obviously, you know, there's something slightly dodgy about lawyers, but you don't think these people are actually evil agents of an evil system.
They just don't know, do they?
No, they don't.
Particularly poignant with doctors and that.
No, they've bought into a system.
And a system, again, looks like it's real on the outside, but You know, when you dig down into it, you realize it's the opposite.
So people go into being doctors to help people, to save people's lives.
They don't realize they end up being drug pushers.
Yeah.
Same with lawyers.
They go in for, you know, to help people, you know, and stop crime and all that stuff.
And they realize they're just actually perpetuating crimes on the people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think one of the tells is when you look at things like the Reigns list.
You're familiar with the Reigns list, aren't you?
I'm not, actually.
R-A-I-N-S.
Alex Thompson once, rather bravely I thought, read out the Reigns list on, I think it's still on YouTube, actually.
But the reigns list was compiled by this child psychologist who was an expert in satanic ritual abuse and she collated the data given to her by the victims that she'd spoken to, she'd interviewed and she Made this list based on... You wouldn't get on the list if only one child had testified against you and named you.
But if more than one child, and if these children didn't know each other, but yet mentioned the same names, then she thought, well, we've got a case here.
And on this list of people who were involved in the vilest form of sexual depravity imaginable are Right, I didn't know that's what it was called, but I'm aware of the list.
pillars of the establishment.
And you're thinking, well, okay, if these senior judges are part of this satanic system, then how can you trust its integrity?
Right.
I didn't know that's what it was called, but I'm aware of the list.
The thing is that going back to the jigsaw puzzle, when you sort of fill in enough of the jigsaw puzzle, you can step back and you start to realize that actually this goes back a long way. you can step back and you start to realize that This goes back all the way to the Old Testament.
And that's why it's all about, you know, Satanism.
Because we're in a spiritual war, essentially.
And, you know, it's playing out on Earth.
Between two factions of people.
I'm so glad you said that, Dave, because... Allegedly, Dave.
Because it's something I often say, that no matter how far down the rabbit hole you are, Unless and until you accept that what is being played out is the age-old war between good and evil, between the fallen angels and God, as the Bible tells us, You're never really going to get to the bottom of what's going on.
If you think that this is explicable purely in material world terms, then you will never understand what's really going on.
Were you brought up a Christian?
Absolutely not.
I was lucky enough that my mum was a Roman Catholic, but she disbelieved that She wasn't going to push any kind of religion on her children.
She was going to let them find out for themselves what they believed in.
So I was an atheist from the age of 13, and I was an atheist for 40 years, until I finally read the Old Testament, or I read the Bible front to back three times.
And what I realized was that it's a story.
It's a story that hasn't finished yet.
And, you know, when I decided to research, using all the research skills that I'd developed over the last 20 years, I researched the Old Testament.
And I found that, as I said, it's a story that's still going on today.
The most high, that's what I call, what some people might call God, the most high is essentially in a chest A chess match with the Fallen Angels.
Obviously it's not much of a match because they're against the Most High, but they're in a chess match and the chess pieces are us.
So you've got the representatives of the Fallen Angels, the Nephilim, they're still around today and right now they're the ones in the positions of power.
And then you've got the humans, the regular humans, who are on the other side.
So the chess match is being played out down here.
Yeah, so the terms I use are the seed of the serpent versus the son of man.
Is that roughly the distinction you draw?
Yes, it's the Nephilim, who are the offspring of the angels and humans.
against, you know, the humans at the most high created.
Yeah.
Of course, not everyone would read the Bible, even if they read it three times back to back, and come up with a conclusion that you have.
I mean, I hear a lot of atheists saying, well, it's just a story.
How can you show me it's real?
What would you say to that?
Well, part of my research was actually researching the language that it was written in.
And the language is completely different to the language that we understand today.
It works in a completely different way.
So, the words in this language mean what they mean.
They can't mean anything else.
They can't be reinterpreted.
You can't...
You know, you can't misunderstand what the words mean because they work on a different side of the brain.
Shall I give you the example I give?
Please, yeah.
Okay, so I'm going to describe to you a film in English and you're going to have to guess what the film is, okay?
Right, so a man on the autistic spectrum recounts his life to strangers.
What's the film?
Oh, is it Forrest Gump?
That's a good guess.
Is there any other guesses you've got on that one?
Was that it?
Well, the only one I know about is Rain Man.
Okay, so most of the times when I give this test, they're the two that people come up with, mainly.
Rain Man and Forrest Gump, okay?
So, I'm not going to tell if you're right with those two guesses, but what happened there was in the left-hand side of your brain, You listened to the sounds I was making, you fetched the meanings of those words that you were taught at school, and you compared that list of meanings with a list of films you'd seen, and you guessed Forrest Gump and Rain Man.
So now, I'm going to tell you the same film in Paleo-Hebrew.
Now, Paleo-Hebrew, I believe, is the original language of mankind.
And it's a language of pictures, little pictograms that mean something to people, right?
So I'm going to use emojis, okay?
So I'm going to give you a set of emojis and you're going to have to tell me what the film is, right?
A man running, a few trees, a park bench, a box of chocolates, a shrimp and a boat.
What's the film?
Well, that's definitely Forrest Gump.
Definitely Forrest Gump.
That set of pictures can't mean Rain Man, can they?
No.
It can't mean Beautiful Mind, or I Am Sam, or Awakenings, or all the other guesses people have made.
I could have given you them in any order, you'd have still got it, yeah?
And it wasn't a guess.
You didn't have to guess it, did you?
You were imaging the pictures in your mind, and you knew what it was.
The left-hand side of your brain didn't get involved at all.
It couldn't because it can't analyze pictures.
It can analyze language, but not pictures.
So that was a language that the Old Testament was written in, the Hebrew Scriptures.
So it can't be reinterpreted.
Verses, or words, are word pictures.
Verses are word pictures.
Chapters are word pictures.
The whole book is a word picture.
Right?
They can mistranslate it all they want, but they can't get rid of the word picture.
I don't know if that makes sense.
Right.
Well, it's interesting.
This is not a rabbit hole I'd expected to go down with you, but while we're here, let's explore a bit further.
I've only just recently discovered this business about the difference between Paleo-Hebrew and the Hebrew of the Masoretic texts, which is a much later version.
And as I understand it, we don't have the original Paleo-Hebrew text.
The closest we have is the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation of the original Hebrew text.
Is that right?
That's right.
Deliberately, because Paleo-Hebrew was a language that they had to destroy, they had to get rid of, they had to hide.
Ah, is that why they burned the library at Alexandria?
One of the reasons, yes, because Paleo-Hebrew is known as the language of creation.
It literally is a language that has power in the world.
And it's... Okay, so whenever the Israelites were taken into captivity, the first thing they said was, no, you have to speak our language.
and in order to try and kill the language.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, yeah, I'm with you on that.
I haven't thought about that.
Well, I don't really know.
I'm really into the Psalms, and I'd kind of like to be able to read and understand the Paleo-Hebrew, but that version doesn't exist.
But I can see that Hebrew works in a different way from English, for example.
Yeah, and don't get mixed up with the so-called modern Hebrew because that was an entirely fabricated language.
It's essentially Yiddish and it's got Aramaic or Babylonian block characters.
So it's got nothing to do, it's there for deception more than anything else really.
Ah.
So would original Paleo-Hebrew, would the lettering have looked different as well?
Yes, because it was, as I said, it was pictograms.
It was little pictures of some of the things that the ancient Hebrew would recognise in this world.
So like hieroglyphs?
Yes, very much.
Actually the hieroglyphs came from Paleo-Hebrew.
All languages came from the Paleo-Hebrew.
And that story of Babylon, the Tower of Babel, again, that's history.
It's not fable, it's history.
The language that we were given, which was the language of creation, was very powerful.
And that power was used to try and attack the Most High.
So what did the angels do?
come down and take away the language.
Right, yes, yeah.
I do think that the Tower of Babel explains an awful lot.
I think that was what C.S.
Lewis was writing about in That hideous strength that essentially what the bad guys are doing is trying to write God out of existence by creating their own version of his creation on Earth.
And that's what the.
That explains everything from transhumanism to the environmental movement which is of course about destroying the environment, destroying God's creation, to the pharmaceutical industry which is about creating these fake alternatives to all the natural medicines we have and so on.
Everything is fake in the world of the dark forces.
Yes, indeed.
And so, okay, so the goal of the, you know, the chess pieces down here, so the enemy, the Nephilim, is to exterminate humanity.
That's the ultimate goal.
Yes.
But their masters, the fallen angels, their goal is to exterminate all life, altogether.
That's their goal.
I've got a bit of speculation here, because it's stuff that I've kind of pieced together from looking at different books and stuff.
But what it looks like is, before this civilization, there was a previous civilization.
And it was governed by an angel.
And the angel was the governor of this earth.
And that civilization fell into wickedness.
So the Most High just wiped it totally out.
Everyone who was alive back then was completely wiped out.
And he started again.
And that starting again was where the Bible takes up.
Now the reason I say that is because the first line of the Old Testament says In the beginning, the Most High created the heavens and the earth.
There's a full stop there.
There should be a full stop there.
So the Most High created the heavens and the earth.
When you look at the translation of the next line, it should or it could read, but the earth had become ruinous and empty.
Suggesting that between those two lines, there could have been any amount of time.
So, the Mother's High created the Heaven and the Earth, but the Earth had become ruinous and empty.
So, the only other time the words ruinous and empty are used together, because again, Palaeo-Hebrew is very, very, very specific.
So when it uses the same phrase or the same words, It means the same thing.
So the only time that phrase is used together is in Jeremiah, where Jeremiah explains that the Most High destroyed everything with his furious anger.
He destroyed everything and all the cities were broken down.
So what cities are they talking about?
So we know that we go back and look at, you know, Archaeological ruins.
We find a world civilization, at least a pyramid culture that's way older than 10,000 years ago.
I believe that was the previous culture that was on this earth.
So, that's what... That's interesting.
So, when you're talking about this period of destruction, when God destroyed everything, you're not talking about the flood.
You're talking about something even earlier than the flood.
Way before the flood.
I'm saying that the Old Testament picks a story up way after this previous civilization was destroyed.
Right.
Well, I suppose anything is possible.
One of the things I've learned in the last four years is Question everything, and don't write anything off.
So I'm not going to sit here and go, well, allegedly Dave is off his trolley.
Sorry, I'll just say, there was a reason why I said that, and I've forgotten to mention the reason.
The reason why the fallen angels and that want to destroy everything is because when Adam was created, He was created as the immortal governor of Earth to replace the angel that was the previous governor.
So that angel was like, you know, I was here first.
I'm not going to worship this mud man you've created.
Yeah, I'm more powerful than him and all that.
And so that started the hatred of humans and the hatred of creation.
I wonder if that's what, I mean this has been analysed a lot by the late Michael Heiser, but Psalm 82 seems to offer sort of possibly confirmation of that, where God says, I have said ye are gods, and ye are all the children of the Most Highest, but ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
So it's God addressing the council of sort of junior gods, and he's saying to them, look, you've really messed up.
I'm not impressed with you.
You're not doing the right thing.
You're not looking after the poor and needy and stuff.
You're just out of control.
So I'm going to make you like mortals.
And I wonder, would I be right in thinking that in your version of events, the previous inhabitants of the earth were essentially the angels and the fallen angels, the heavenly host, versions thereof.
No, I think there were people, but ruled over by an angel and governed by an angel.
Okay.
And now this is, I wouldn't say like Earth Mark 2 or Civilization Mark 2.
It could be one of many, many civilizations, but we're just talking about the previous one to this.
Right.
Right.
Well, that would be the sort of the intersection between... Because I don't think... I don't think... Graham Hancock, for example.
He's quite persuasive up to a point.
I don't think he's a Christian at all.
Is he?
I don't know.
I don't know.
The people... I think the people who... Well, you know, he's on Netflix.
And Netflix is satanic.
Yeah.
If it's on mainstream, then it's not going to be good.
He's been on the BBC.
Yeah, if it's mainstream then it's allowed to be on mainstream.
Yeah, okay.
I could chat to you more about this and maybe we'll have another chat about it sometime, but I suppose it would be a waste of your knowledge and your talents if I didn't talk to you about...
When you're talking about, when you were advising, for example, on how to get off, if that's the right phrase, speeding fines and stuff, what form of law are you actually, what is this parallel law system that you're sort of exploiting?
It's common law, but these days we're not sort of using common law per se.
What we're doing these days is using their own legislation and the tenets of law against them.
So, okay, for an example, speeding tickets for instance, right?
The tenet of law that we're exploiting is He who makes the allegation must come with the evidence, must prove it.
Okay?
So, if they're going to make an allegation that you did something, they've got to actually provide proof that you did.
Right.
So, right now, they've got speed cameras, okay?
And you're down on M1, something flashes behind you, and, you know, apparently you've done something according to them.
Right.
So, let me ask you a question.
Where were you two weeks ago on Friday at 5.45 and 30 seconds?
I don't know where I was an hour ago, Dave, so I really haven't a clue.
Right, so what they're saying is, at a certain date, at 5.45 and 30 seconds, you were at a certain location, precise location, and you were committing some offence.
In this case, speeding.
Right, so you can legitimately say, and honestly say, I have no record of being at that place, at that time, yeah?
On that date.
Right?
Can you provide me some evidence that I was there?
Right?
Now, most people see the photograph and go, well they got me, there's the photograph.
Right?
Well, your car, no matter what car it was, it rolled off of a production line.
Right?
So, there are probably something like 50,000 cars that are identical to your car.
The only difference being, number plate.
Yeah.
Okay, so I have an article, I think it was from 2013-14, something like that, that said there are over 1 million ANPR errors every day.
So, how do you know that this was not an MPR error?
How do you know that your car wasn't cloned?
How do you know there wasn't a bit of bird shit on your number plate to make an F look like an E or a C look like a G?
There's any number of reasons why that number plate might look like yours but isn't.
So you can legitimately say, the photograph that you provided me bears a striking resemblance to my car, but do you have any evidence it's one and the same?
Right?
So you're not lying, you are asking them, you're holding them to whoever makes the allegation must prove.
The point is, they've got no proof whatsoever.
A camera is not a witness, right?
A photograph is an evidence, not primary evidence.
So, essentially, you're holding them to the tenets of law.
Right?
And so, they can't go to court with no evidence, because it'd be thrown out.
Which is why they do so many other tricks to bypass it.
Yes, yes.
I've noticed this having gone through the process and one of the things they do is to try and frighten you.
Into into it's a very unpleasant experience Standing up to these things because I think it is unjust what they're doing and it but it does require balls And it's very very hard to live through that period Because you're thinking oh, I'm gonna get in trouble I'm gonna and also am I right in thinking you have to go into this process prepared to go to court if necessary You have to accept that's a possibility.
It is a possibility, but it's not a realistic possibility because, you know, they can't go to real court with this.
They can't go to court, especially if you've challenged this.
If you've said, yeah, I've got no evidence I was there.
Can you provide it to me?
And they haven't.
That photograph looks like my car, but have you got any evidence it is my car?
They haven't.
Yeah?
If you go to court having said, I want this evidence, and they don't provide it to you, right?
Not only have they not gone to court with any evidence, but you can get, the first thing you will have to do is say, well, where's the evidence I asked for?
And if they can't provide it, no, the case is gone.
Yes.
So now they can't take you to court?
Are they going to be able to... Can they fiddle with the legislation so that suddenly a camera does become acceptable proof that you were there doing That's a big can of worms to open, especially in this age of AI and image generation, because then that's a whole can of worms they can't afford to go down.
Right, yes of course.
AI is really... I don't think people are aware about how powerful AI is.
I mean, everyone uses chat GPT to write their CVs and stuff, but I don't think they realise how advanced it's got and how much fakery can be generated.
Plausible fakery.
Absolutely.
I mean, right now it's still at the stage where you can detect AI manipulation by eye.
I think it's still at that stage, but give it a few more years, it's going to be very, very difficult to spot it from reality.
Which again goes back to that biblical thing we were talking about, about the dark forces have created a simulacrum of God's creation, which is getting closer and closer to resembling the real thing.
We're pretty near the final chapter, aren't we, of the Bible?
I think we are at the end.
These are the end days.
The system that's been going on for thousands of years cannot continue.
It's got a finite lifespan.
And they know it too, because their monetary system, which they have to reset every 20 or 30 years, Because it's a Ponzi scheme, yeah?
So every so often they've got to reset it to zero so they can keep the Ponzi scheme going, but they didn't reset it after the last crash.
So in 2008 is when it should have been reset, but they didn't.
They've kept it going by throwing tons and tons of money at it, and they're going to crash it when they can crash everything simultaneously.
Hmm.
So what are the other things that are real?
This isn't an area I often engage with.
I mean, I tend to go for things like the Beatles were created by the Tavistock Institute and all the actresses you think are girls are in fact blokes and things like that.
I love all that stuff.
But this is more real and more practical.
But which are the things Which of it is bollocks and which of it works?
I mean, for example, CESTV.
Is there any merit in that?
Well, that's real.
That is actually what happened.
They've used this idea of You know, everyone's dead to actually claim their shareholding of our shares of the country.
And yes, that whole thing is real.
But, OK, you asked a question earlier, you know, how can you see if all this stuff is real or not?
You know, it works for some people, it doesn't work for others.
What's going on is that It's again like a chess game.
We make a move to counter what they're doing.
They get together and find out a way to get around that move.
So it's not like a static thing.
You could come up with an amazing remedy for something and two or three people might use the same remedy and it's great.
But then, by the time the fifth or sixth person tries to use it, they've all got together to find a way around it to put you back where you were before.
Does that make any sense?
Yeah.
Well, it does.
I mean, just lay out the basics for me, can you?
That when we're born, We are allocated this, our name appears on our birth certificate in capital letters.
And that this identity is a construct.
It's not really us.
It's a kind of, uh, what's the term?
Straw man.
Um, avatar playing piece.
Imagine it's like, um, it's like a playing piece in the game Monopoly.
You can't physically stand on the board and walk around the squares, right?
You're a man, you can't jump on that board and walk around it.
No, you need a playing piece to actually play the game.
And you are associating yourself with that playing piece.
You've got a pile of money in this game, you've got a pile of money, and every time your playing piece lands on the wrong square, You have to pay out some of this money.
Right?
But nobody expects you to delve into your own pocket and pay with the money in your pocket in this game.
But this is what the system's doing.
It's saying, anything that this playing piece is charged with, you've got to settle that charge with the money in your pocket.
Because you're agreeing to be that playing piece.
Yeah.
Yes.
And...
We are traded on the stock market, is that right?
Our names, or our straw men, are traded.
We have value.
Yes, indeed.
So, essentially, your birth certificate links to a stock on the stock market, which is, again, look at the word, yeah?
Stock market.
Live stock.
That's who we are.
We're their live stock.
Right, so you're being traded and, you know, your value comes about by how much you earn, how much, you know, the system charges you and all that.
So people are betting for you and against you because you can do call and put options on stocks.
So people are betting against you and for you and making money from you.
Right.
And do we have a pot of money, unbeknownst to ourselves, that we can draw on?
No, we have a notional amount.
So, OK, so in this country there's something like 68 million people here.
If you take what's the notional worth of this country and divide it by 68 million people, well that's your notional share of the country.
You've got a notional amount, and that amount will vary throughout your life, depending on what happens to you, and that's what they're betting on, essentially.
So no, there isn't an actual pot of money there that you can claim.
People keep saying, oh, I can claim your treasury account.
No, it's a notional amount.
Right.
But OK, so that's kind of disappointing that there isn't some kind of magic portal that you can go to.
Because there are sort of sites which suggest that you can, if you go through this process, you can do things like... What about the one where you get a diplomatic passport?
Is that real or is that not?
I don't believe it's real.
The number of people I've known through the years have gone through things like that to get this documentation it's never worked for them right um obviously occasionally something one or two people get through but um it's kind of like the casino yeah so don't the casino let one or two punters win so that it brings more people into the casino
right but another of the things i've heard um is that there are some people who who get through this system but the price they must pay for getting you know that having achieved this they're told yeah but you can't tell anybody else about it you're not going to be able to do it You've just got to shut up about it, because people can't know about it.
So the people who might be able to tell us how to do it, because it's worked for them, won't, because they've been made an offer they can't refuse.
I believe that is what happens.
I think there's a notable case where I believe somebody made a deal so that their father could keep their property and stuff.
Yeah, that does, I believe, does happen.
Because obviously if too many people find out about it, then major changes have to And as we've said before, you can't just change the legislation willy-nilly because they'll have knock-on effects.
The system was put together by very clever people, but none of those people are here today.
We've got people who are descendants of descendants of descendants who are running the system.
They didn't put it together.
So, you know, when we find out about stuff, They, most of the time, don't know about it, so they have to learn themselves so they can counter us.
Yes.
I suppose the strongest evidence that there's no kind of quick-fix, quick-riches solution is you.
Because you've been researching this stuff.
You know it better than most people.
And I'm thinking, if it was really, really that good, then you wouldn't be sitting here talking to me.
You'd be in your volcano island, in your bunker, enjoying the fruits of your success.
Well, that's not necessarily true at all.
We all have to live in this world, and this world is run by this system.
There is no where you can go in this world.
That isn't tainted by this system.
And I've had plenty of opportunity to just walk away and live on a Caribbean island and away from it all.
to just walk away and live on a Caribbean island and stay away from it all.
But you know what?
The fight is here.
The fight is here.
And if I did nothing about it, then I'd be like a coward running away from it.
So no, I have to do something about it.
Right.
That's very noble.
I salute you for that.
I know what you mean.
This is a fight for us against them.
And, I mean, if we lose this one, well, we know what happens anyway, we don't lose, because it's written in the Bible.
It's not about... How do you... I'm going to say, it's not about nobility.
I'm not saying... I'm just Dave from Basildon, yeah?
It's not about nobility at all, right?
If somebody was being murdered in a corner over there and you just stand there like this, Or you get your camera out and film it, right?
You are now a party to that murder, right?
Because you didn't stand up against it, right?
It's not about being noble, it's about doing what you're supposed to do, yeah?
You're supposed to do your best to stop that murder taking place.
And if you don't, then you're just as bad as a murderer.
How do you think this all plays out?
I mean, are you expecting this to happen in the final scenes of Revelation to happen in your lifetime?
I'm seeing it happening already.
I'm seeing it playing out, you know, as we speak.
I actually believe the New Testament is a coded playbook.
It's got several uses, but One of the uses is like a coded playbook for the descendants of those who wrote the New Testament.
So, the line, for instance, in Revelation, By thy sorceries shall the whole world be deceived.
Well, the word for sorceries is pharmakia.
Which is the root of pharmaceutical.
So, by thy pharmaceutical shall the whole world be deceived.
I think we've just seen that, haven't we?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I think we have.
I think we have.
Yeah, the eschatological rabbit hole is one of the broadest and deepest Rabbit holes.
I can't decide because I listen to too many podcasts and read, you know, obviously I read the Bible and stuff, but it's quite opaque the language of Revelation.
I mean it's a kind of it's a vision, isn't it?
And it's written in Yeah, written in signs and symbols.
But what's your take?
When sort of God intervenes?
So we've got an Antichrist, many Antichrists, we've got As far as I'm concerned, there is no Christ, because the New Testament is, again this is my view, the New Testament is bogus.
It was created by that bloodline that wants to take over the earth.
So I go by what the Most High says.
So if you restore some of the books that they took out of the Old Testament, Namely, the Apocrypha, which was in the original 1611 King James.
There's a book in the Apocrypha called 2nd Esdras, which is the 4th book of Ezra.
And in that book it tells you what happens in the end.
It tells you what this world today is going to look like.
Yes, I think it's the most amazing book in the whole work.
So it says that in the end days, the earth will be overspread by a three-headed eagle, which sounds all kind of poetic and mystical, but when you realize that the eagle is a symbol of a bloodline, and you can trace that bloodline as it went around the world conquering
So, you've got the Greek two-headed eagle, you've got the Roman SPQR eagle, you've got the Nazi eagle.
So, where's the eagle now?
Well, there's one in the US, isn't there?
US?
Okay.
So, to confirm that...
In the book of Obadiah, which is all about this bloodline in the last days, it says, though thy exalt thyself as eagle, and set thy nest among the stars, then shall I bring you down.
So which country, which nation has set their nest among the stars?
Are you talking about the fate moon landings?
So, America.
So, what was supposedly the first words from the moon, supposedly?
One small step for man, one giant step for mankind.
Before that, before that.
Oh, the eagle has landed.
The eagle has landed.
They didn't choose that name just out of the blue, right?
No, they're saying they're setting their nest among the stars, okay?
So, that, the... Oh, yes, because they do love, they do love their scripture, don't they?
They do.
So, okay, so we've got the eagle as a bloodline.
So what are the three heads of this eagle?
So you do know the empire of the three cities?
Which are, what, London...
Rome and... City of London.
Washington.
City of London, which is its own separate city-state, not part of London, not part of England, right?
Yeah.
And you've got Vatican, which is not part of Rome.
Vatican.
Not part of Italy, its own separate city-state.
And you've got Washington DC, which is not part of America, not part of, yeah, not part of the States.
So, Rome, or the Vatican, is a centre of religious control of the world, right?
London is the centre of financial control of the world, and Washington DC is the centre of military control of the world.
So these are the three heads of that one bloodline that Ezra was talking about two and a half thousand years ago.
So Ezra basically says that the middle head, the head that puts the whole earth in fear, which I'm going to say is America, that head will disappear without a fight.
And so I'm saying that America is going to be, very soon, is going to be taken out.
It's going to disappear without the fight.
Okay?
And then it says that the two remaining heads are going to fight each other, and one head is going to take out the other.
And finally, it says a lion is going to rise up and rebuke the last head, and that head will be no more.
So, if you look at who the lion symbolises, you'll find it's the Lion of Judah.
So, it's a long story, but yeah, that's essentially what the book says.
Okay, right.
And what does this look like in practical terms for us?
Do we all die, or what?
No.
It's a long story, but according to the way it pans out, there's going to be a second exodus.
There's going to be an exodus of people from all over the world.
I believe they're going to go to Africa.
And that's before America disappears.
And I've actually nailed my colors to the wall, actually, and I've said that I think America is going to disappear under lava.
And that those two eclipses... That's a big call.
Yeah.
Those two eclipses that they talked about just recently, the second one being April of this year, I think that was a warning to America.
Yeah.
Because the eclipse in 2024 and the eclipse in 2017 formed an X over America over a place called the New Madrid Fault Line, which is the most active earthquake zone in America.
And it's connected to the Yellowstone Fault Line.
And underneath Yellowstone is a super volcano.
And they've already said if Yellowstone goes, it's going to take three quarters of America with it.
And from 2018, Yellowstone started to wake up for the first time.
They've had to close the park several times because of incidents happening there.
So Yellowstone is waking up and I believe that X, because eclipses have always been omens, they've always been signs in the sky for us to take heed of.
So I believe that the crossing of those eclipses, you know, which is okay, That is, in Palaeo-Hebrew, is the ta, which is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and one of its meanings is the end.
And it's also the numerical value 400, which coincides with the 400 years that the Israelites would be enslaved, ending in the last days.
This is a long story, but one of the first and last prophecies of the Old Testament is that the Israelites were going to go into the worst ever slavery ever experienced on earth.
And it was going to last 400 years, ending in the last days.
Well, that 400 years ended August 21st, 2019.
And as soon as that ended, all hell's broken loose ever since.
So that's why I know we're in the last days.
How can you date it to that?
Why August 2019?
What happened then?
Because the Bloodline, the Eagle Bloodline, first brought the first slave into their stronghold, America, on August 21st, 1619.
And that was the beginning of the 400 years that the Israelites had been in captivity, in slavery and affliction for 400 years.
And I have to say, that ended 400 years later.
But who are... which Israelites?
The ones of the book.
So, they would be known as the African-Americans, the Caribbeans, the West Africans.
Because that slavery and affliction happened to all of them, all at the same time.
The West Africans, it was called colonialism.
But the same things happened, which you can go to Deuteronomy 28, 15 to 68, And it will describe everything that happened to them over that 400 year period.
So we've come out of that now, and now we're in the next line of Genesis, is that nation, so the nation that put them into slavery, that nation shall I judge.
So right now we're in the judgment of the nations.
And then it carries on, it says, and then that nation shall I judge, and then they will leave with great substance.
So that's the second exodus.
So we're in the judgment of nations until the second exodus happens.
Right.
So, in your understanding, the descendants of the Hebrews are basically the people who became slaves.
Yeah.
You know, black Africans, etc, etc.
Well, I've actually got proof of it as well.
That doesn't leave much space for me.
Well... What's in it for me?
I'm not... Here's the thing, in this country... I mean, looking at your skin colour, David, I can see why you might be biased towards this particular version.
Oh, believe me, I had no bias when I went into it.
I had no conception of this when I went into it.
It's just that I started researching, and I started researching who the people in the Old Testament were, And try to trace where they went after the book ended.
Um, okay.
One piece of evidence I got was, uh, okay.
Um, uh, when, when the, uh, Israelites were taken into captivity in, uh, in Babylon, the King of Spain asked for all the house of King David, all the nobles in the house of King David to be taken over to Spain.
Right.
The same happens when the Romans attacked.
A whole load of the ruling house of King David, the ruling house of Judea, were taken over to Spain.
And so the Israelites, they were called exilarchs, so the ruling house of the Israelites were living, exiled in Spain.
Then the Inquisitions happened and they went from Spain to Portugal.
And some of them went to England and then the Portuguese Inquisition happened and they were transported from there to Africa and then from Africa they were taken as slaves.
So I've got several documents that shows one particular family that descended from King David and one of the documents actually came from Adolf Hitler.
He had this document produced basically because he knew that the The Jewish people in Germany were not the people of, were not the Israelites.
So he had this book produced to find out who they were.
So he followed one family called the Yahya family.
And so you can actually go into the Jewish encyclopedia and find this name.
To confirm it, so the Yahya family ended up in Spain, then Portugal, then Africa, and you can go to the slave voyages database and find the name Yahya in there.
Okay, so there's an unbroken chain all the way from King David to slavery in America.
So, are you optimistic you're going to survive this one?
I hope so, but... Oh, so what I was going to say, because you said, what about you?
In this country, it turns out this country was a black country.
The British Isles were black, the Welsh were black, the Irish were black, the Scottish were black.
So, and the Britons, the so-called English, were mixed tribes of black, brown, white people.
So, when Oliver Cromwell took power, when the last black king, Charles II, was deposed, a Germanic bloodline came to the throne, Oliver Cromwell was tasked to exterminate the Irish.
So he killed a lot of Irish men.
Those he didn't kill were transported to their new colonies in the Caribbean.
So you'll find in Barbados and Montserrat these people of pure Irish names with an Irish accent in these lands, but they're black people.
So, those black people who stayed in England and the British Isles, they were essentially whitened out.
They were mixed in and their skin colour was gone.
But, you know, just because you lose your skin colour doesn't mean you lose your DNA.
Oh, I see.
So my inner blackness will return.
Actually, my mother looks quite dark-skinned, so maybe there's some of that.
I have a video where I show... I'm actually secretly black.
I have a video where I show there's a painting, a portrait of a guy called Francis Barber.
He was a man-servant.
He was a black man-servant of Samuel Johnson.
So there's a guy standing in front of this portrait saying, Francis had a son called Enoch.
Enoch had a son called Edward.
Edward had a son called Norman.
And Norman had a son called Cedric.
And that's me.
So this white guy descends from this black man-servant.
And before he found out, he had no idea.
He just thought it was just a normal white guy.
But no, he descends from a black guy.
Even despite that sop of consolation, allegedly, Dave, I suspect that it's going to be lots of... You've gone and alienated all the Christians, basically, all the conventional Orthodox Christians.
You've gone and annoyed them.
And you've probably lost most of the white audience at this point.
I totally respect that.
I mean, I like people who have strong views and we're kind of a crazy bunch down the rabbit hole, aren't we?
It's why we're like a herd of cats.
We can't really agree on much, can we?
Well, you know what?
If you look around, as I said, you look around at everything in our world, And you realize, well, actually, that's reverse, that's the opposite of what they say it is, that's your... So, do the Christians think that, you know, their religion, you know, got away scot-free?
They were the only things that weren't messed around with?
Ah, I think we can agree on that.
I think... There's no question that What's the devil going to do?
Where's he going to infiltrate most?
He's going to infiltrate Christianity.
I mean, obviously that's the case.
And so he reverses everything.
So he reverses everything, doesn't he?
I'm definitely with you on the overview.
I'm with you on the overview that Seed of the Serpent versus Seed of the Snake.
I'm not so with you on the detail.
But before we go, can I just ask you a question I meant to ask you earlier, which is that, okay, so you've accumulated all this knowledge.
You've come up with some pretty good ideas about how to deal with speeding tickets and stuff.
What else of the stuff you found that you do is important that people should know, that they should familiarise themselves with in order to, you know, fight the system and perhaps also stop themselves being fined by these horrible forces?
Well, fining is something beyond our control because they're going to They're going to keep coming up with things to try and wear us down with.
But to survive this system, because the system is coming against us hard now, to survive it, I think the best thing to know is that you've got everything you need to survive with you at all times.
You know, there's a food crisis coming.
They'll start to announce there's a water crisis coming.
We know the medicines we can't trust that they give us.
But you've got that with you.
And that comes into another controversial thing I talk about, is urine therapy.
Which... Oh!
I would have kicked myself!
Dave, I would have kicked myself if I hadn't asked you about that.
I was going to ask that other guy, well, I'm still going to do a podcast with him, and I'm planning on seeing what it's like drinking your own urine on the podcast.
I'm not going to do it on this one because I haven't prepared.
But tell me, so does it work?
What's the point of it?
What's that about?
It's, okay, your body is designed to work And live anywhere on this earth.
So you've always got everything you need with you.
So your urine is not waste.
It is the excess of all the good stuff that has been transported around your body by your bloodstream.
It just happens to be the excess of that good stuff.
So, you know, having too much in the way of vitamins, for instance, is just as bad as having not enough.
So the excess of, say, vitamin C, is going to end up in your urine because the blood only needs a certain amount to do its job.
So the excess will end up in your urine.
If you've got too much water in your system, in your bloodstream, your blood's too watery, well, your kidneys are going to filter out the excess water and all the excess hormones, enzymes, vitamins, minerals, all the good things.
So your urine is a snapshot of what's going on in your body and it's all the things your body needs.
So literally if you consume it again, You end up giving your body everything it needs, so you don't need to have food, you don't need to have any excess water.
I've proved it.
I did a 30-day urine fast, where all I did was drink urine, no food, no water, just urine.
And not only did I survive, here I am, hello, I healed everything that was wrong with me.
Did you?
What was wrong with you?
Oh, I had a lisp as long as your arm.
I had chronic asthma.
I had extremely high blood pressure.
I had back problems.
I couldn't raise this arm above shoulder height.
I had pain up the back of my leg from an Achilles tendon operation.
I had loads of things wrong.
But four days into my fast...
Right, they all got went.
Well, couldn't you have stopped at that point rather than carrying on?
Could I have stopped what?
Stopped drinking urine?
No.
Stopped at that point in your... I mean, why push it to 30 days if you were cured after four?
Ah, because I wanted to see if... OK, I found out about a 30-day urine fast by somebody called Andrew Norton-Weber, who it turns out never did it himself.
I thought he did.
I thought, well, let me give that a try.
Bastard!
I know!
He punked you there, didn't he?
Yes, I do an interview on my channel.
I've got an interview with Andrew Norton Webber where it's the first time he reveals that he never did it.
I was like, well I think he did it.
It's the only reason I did it because I thought he'd done it.
Can I just check, not that I'm tempted, but did you just drink urine?
You didn't drink water at all?
At that time, no, I didn't drink water.
I should have done, you know, I think I would, if I did it again, I would drink distilled water.
But yeah, I didn't at that time.
But I imagine it must, doesn't it get a lot stronger tasting after?
15, 20... Well, I mean... Well, not really.
I mean, think about it... Doesn't it get stronger and stronger each time?
And yellower and yellower?
Think about it.
Your body is 70% water.
And every time you breathe in, you're breathing in water vapour.
And your body is absorbing water vapour as well.
So, no, it's... It doesn't get stronger and turn into syrup or anything.
It's just, again, the excess of what comes out of your bloodstream.
Right.
Well, no, I mean I'm impressed by all the ailments that you managed to get rid of through that simple expedient.
Well, I've actually got my mum out of a wheelchair.
She was in a wheelchair for 20 years, and I put her on urine therapy.
18 months later, she's out of the wheelchair, walking around like my sister, looking 20 years younger.
And, you know, she was on A whole tabletop full of drugs she was taking every day.
Now she's off all of those.
And she's a happy and healthy 80 year old now.
The most impressive achievement there is how you talked your mum into doing this in the first place.
How did you sell it?
Well that was the biggest surprise of all because I never told my mum what I was doing and one day I told her and she said oh yeah my dad used to make us do it when we were young so I didn't have to convince her that much.
Really?
Yeah, it's old knowledge.
Sorry, say that again.
But I'm just curious how you initiated the conversation in the first place.
Mum, I've got this idea for your health.
Is that how it began?
Well, no, I told her about what I was doing and then she said, yeah, my dad used to make us do it.
But her dad never told her why.
Her dad never told her why they were doing it.
So they just hated doing it.
And as soon as they got away from there, they stopped.
So she saw how I was actually improving and she said, well, how can I improve myself?
And so I put on a program.
Okay.
So drink your own urine.
Use your three-step method or whatever it is for fighting speeding tickets.
What else?
What else do we need to do?
Well, the thing about speeding tickets and all the fines and the council tax and stuff It's more about losing the fear of all this stuff.
Losing the fear of going up against this behemoth, this government stuff.
If you lose the fear, the next thing I would say, the thing I'm talking about these days is the fourth dimension, how this world really works.
And the world doesn't work the way we think it does at all.
We are the ones with the power and by changing your attitude to this world, changing your attitude to your life, you can actually change the world around you, change what's happening to you.
So it's more about having a positive attitude and not getting caught up, not buying into all these things you see around you.
Do you pay council tax?
No.
I live off-grid for one thing at the moment, but when I did live in a house, when I did live in a house, so I lived in a house four years after I came back from America and I didn't pay council tax for those four years.
I tried two different methods to deal with it.
Yes, I never paid to that or utility bills.
Well, what's the one that works?
What about the thing where you say, I will pay this tax but you've got to demonstrate to me that the money's not going to killing children in Gaza or whatever?
Well, that's the method I subscribe to these days.
Yeah, it's essentially, again, it's using judo, using their legislation against them because you've got one piece of legislation on one side that says you're not allowed to fund terrorism.
If you contribute to terrorism, you're guilty of this crime.
Well, on the other hand, council tax Well, it turns out that it's been documented in several newspaper articles that your council tax is going to buy cluster bombs that are being used in Yemen.
I think it's 566 million is being used, is being sort of funneled into the arms industry.
So you're paying for it.
And also, what happened at 7-7?
And also what happened at 7-7.
7-7 was, it was proved by a video called 7-7 ripple effect that it was conducted by the British government.
John Anthony Hill who made the video was being brought up on charges of trying to pervert the course of justice and a jury acquitted him after watching the video.
So a jury has agreed that the government are funding terrorism or doing terrorist acts.
OK, so you've got your case, but then what happens?
I mean, how do they respond to that?
OK, well... You make the money available, but you say it's conditional... Yeah, OK, so you're never going to get them to suddenly throw their hands up and say, you're right, you're right, OK?
You just get them in a stalemate position where they can't move forward and that's it.
They go quiet.
And then they'll try again next year.
OK.
So you put the money in an account which is ready to go to them when they meet your conditions.
I don't do that.
What happens to that money?
I don't do that.
I don't advocate that.
That's Chris Coverdell.
I'm just saying, you know what?
I'm asking you to prove that I'm not funding terrorism.
And if they can't prove it, not only would I stop paying them, if I've been paying them with direct debit, I'll actually go back and claim back every piece of money, every payment I've ever given to them.
Because that's you making good, because I've been apparently contributing to this terrorism, so I'm going to withdraw all the money I've paid you.
Dave, I've really enjoyed talking to you.
The problem is that all that talk of piss has made me want to go and have a pee, which I'm not going to go and drink, but I do need a pee.
So, thank you.
Thank you.
Tell people where they can find your stuff.
Right, well, unfortunately my website's down at the moment, but hopefully it'll be back up soon.
That'll be allegedlydave.com.
But on Telegram, I've actually got a group called Ask Allegedly Dave, where I'll answer questions.
And another one called Allegedly Friends, where we post stuff.
It's a good site?
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
Well, Dave, I really enjoyed talking to you.
It was worth the wait.
And thank you for all the advice you've given me in the past.
I'm going to have to pick your brain a bit more, I think.
My blood is just... I'm getting old, you know.
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Because it's not always easy doing what we do, is it Dave?
No, it's not.
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You do tours as well, don't you, occasionally?
Speaking tours.
Yeah, I've just come to the end of mine now.
I think I've got one date left.
But yeah, I do maybe four or five months of going around the country speaking.
Yeah, it'll be next year now.
Next one.
OK, well, everyone go to get Dave's speaking tours next year.
