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	Welcome to the Delipole with me, James Delipole.
	And I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but as you can see, I have no reason, no reason at all to be excited about a special guest because it's not...
	It's the guest, and the guest is a guest in the house.
	Dick is in the house.
	Now, those of you who've been longing for more exciting podcasts, I've got the world's conspiracy theorists to choose from, and instead I've got Dick.
	But there's a reason for this.
	Most of you will be familiar with the fact that my wife has been very ill and I haven't had time.
	It's when you've got somebody close to you who's very ill.
	You're doing things like hospital runs and all the... particularly if it's your wife.
	I think husbands... it's okay when the husband's ill because the wife is used to doing all the stuff anyway.
	When it's the husband, he has to learn to become a wife.
	And he sees all the things that wives do, all the things they pick up and put away, and all the washing machine stuff they have to do.
	And it's been quite traumatic because we're not, frankly, we're not designed for this.
	We're not wired for this sort of thing.
	We're not.
	And you'll get some people who say, oh, some men are saying, I've been living on my own for 20 years and I can manage, or even people who actually look after kids and stuff on their own.
	And yeah, I salute you, but you are the exception rather than the rule.
	And also, you've had practice doing it.
	Yeah, it's fine when you've got, you found the kind of modus vivendi, where you get to, you've pared down your life, you can do this stuff, but if your wife is put out of action, it's just like, like a missile.
	I've noticed that you're very much in spinning plates mode, you're running around the house giving Each pole a wobble to keep that plate spinning and something's been left in the oven and we failed to get something from the shop and you've got to get that linen shirt hung out.
	Every single one of those things in its own right is petty and it isn't disastrous but there's so many of them.
	I'm actually the chef that is replacing our dear sister, who, along with the wonderful David, came down for an entire week.
	Just like that.
	No questions.
	It's right.
	I'm coming down.
	That's the caring.
	They were the lifesavers.
	The caring Delingpole and her partner.
	Yeah.
	It was the difference between me going nuts and me having, you know, under the circumstances, a really lovely time, actually.
	We got into church services, including one where we walked.
	I worked out there were six churches within walking distance of me.
	And we walked to the second nearest, across the fields, and it's this beautiful 13th century church with these fantastic brasses.
	I mean, quite late brasses, they're 1490, I think.
	Virtually modern.
	Virtually modern.
	So that's That's post Wars of the Roses, isn't it?
	When was Bosworth?
	1481?
	Yeah.
	So yeah, it's post Bosworth.
	But yeah, lovely.
	And it's really nice when you've got this but mostly of Ulsters inevitably, because only Ulsters go to English Catholic Churches these days, but it's nice having that extra resource.
	And when somebody mentions your wife in their prayer, when the vicar mentions your wife in the communal prayers, it's a lovely thing.
	And we're back to drinking out of the proper communion cup, rather than this nonsense of intincture, which I think is an abomination, was introduced by the devil.
	Yeah.
	And you did an animal service as well, didn't you?
	The animal service was very good.
	That was the first weekend where we had a pet service.
	We took the dog along.
	Well, there were two girls and their horses came along.
	Boy and a girl on their ponies, which is good.
	Not in the church, though.
	It was in the churchyard, wasn't it?
	But I did feel sorry for them.
	I thought, you've got the most fantastic seat.
	You're sort of slumped in the saddle like jockets.
	It's more natural to be sitting in the saddle than standing for you.
	And you're never going to be able to use those skills in the hunting field because it's going to be long since banned by the time you get to hunt, which I thought was really sad.
	And you, Dick, Now tell everybody about the adventure that I sprung on you today.
	Well I took a couple of days off work to come and do this because it's a family emergency you do these things and I thought I was going to be helping and getting plates and things but no it's oh by the way we're going riding oh right and I don't ride I haven't since Prep school was the last time I properly rode on it.
	So you'd have been maybe 11 max when you stopped.
	So a good 55 years ago maybe.
	No, 45.
	You're not 46.
	No.
	Or 666 even.
	45 years ago then.
	Yeah.
	So turn up at this riding, your riding place, which is lovely.
	Absolutely packed full of horses.
	About 20 horses down.
	Yeah.
	I'm terrified.
	It's like, I'm not sure I can do this.
	I can't just get straight on a massive horse and go riding.
	It was a proper hunter you were on.
	And your previous experience, you were on a lunge, weren't you?
	Going round in circles.
	But they weren't going to make me do anything that they didn't think would be possible.
	They gave me a horse that was going to be very compliant, called Rambler.
	Yeah, well they chose a horse that was forward-going, because there's nothing worse than getting on a horse after all those years and having no riding muscles, and having to constantly try and gee it up, kick it on, and you've got no muscles to do it, and after a while you just lose the will to live.
	Whereas Rambler is quite forward-going, but not so forward-going that he's going to bolt.
	It was the perfect choice for you.
	But your stable lady said I was a natural.
	Well, I think she was quite impressed with you.
	What she does quite often with novices, she takes you to the jumping field and there are these barrels and she puts you over the barrels.
	I think you were a bit horrified.
	A bit horrified.
	I thought, I can pull this off as long as we don't go over a wall.
	And the walk bit was sort of, this is me, I'm on a horse, really high up in the fields in the English countryside.
	What could be nicer?
	And then it's like, right, we're going to trot up this bit.
	So it's like, here we go.
	And then, oh, that's very good, Dink, you're doing that right.
	You're a natural.
	And it's like, oh, this is fantastic.
	And then it's like, right, we're going to go into a canter in the next one.
	No, no, no, no, no cantering.
	But yeah, it all came to an end.
	The silver barrels.
	And I saw your expression afterwards, when we got to the end of the run.
	And there was a light in your eyes, which I recognised, because I see it in the eyes of people when they go hunting and stuff.
	It's that... Oh my God moment, yeah.
	But it's just like, I didn't want to do that, but it was fantastic.
	I was clearly being put out of my comfort zone, but in a way that there's no other way I'd have done it.
	I wouldn't have... I think I'd have made excuses and not come had I thought, you know, we're going to go jumping.
	Don't be ridiculous!
	I'm not jumping over anything!
	I didn't, yes.
	I think had I told you that you probably would be jumping, You would have been thinking about it a lot, and you don't want to think about stuff.
	You just want to kind of... I think that's probably the recipe for life, generally.
	Certainly my motive.
	Don't think generally about stuff.
	Just do it.
	Just jump.
	The girls with us who kindly did a video, I saw the video playback of my jump and I was thinking, that must look spectacular.
	I played back the video, and the horse was barely leaving the ground to clear this particular jump, but at the time it felt like I was going over a massive fence.
	Yeah, but even small jumps, when you approach them, they look scary, because you know that the horse is going to have to lift up its legs, at the very least.
	There was hardly any lead-up.
	It's sort of like you've turned, and then suddenly the horse is off, and you're grabbing the tighter rein, You don't want to give them too much lead, actually, because they end up doing what Barnaby did when I gave him too much lead, which is that they get over-excited, they get overworked up, and he puts in little fly bucks afterwards because he's too wound up.
	Fly bucks doesn't sound like something I want.
	No, you don't want fly bucks.
	But fly bucks, I think, are generally Exuberance rather than malice.
	Well, with Barnaby anyway, he's got a good heart.
	So well done, Dick.
	That was fantastic.
	It was an absolutely joyful hour of being at one with nature and horse and fellow countrymen, as in those of the countryside.
	And we should mention the little girls.
	I mean, when I say little girls, they must be about what?
	13?
	It's hard to tell.
	Maybe about 13.
	And I tested them, didn't I?
	I tested them on their knowledge of... All things based.
	Yeah, so what were the questions I asked?
	What happened to Diana?
	Yeah.
	What was Covid?
	What happened to Madeleine McCann?
	What happened to Madeleine McCann?
	By and large, in fact 100%, they had all the right answers.
	I said, Did dinosaurs exist?
	And they said, no.
	I said, tell me about Walt Disney.
	And they said, he's a Satanist.
	Correct.
	And I said, and what else is he?
	Come on, you can get the pedophile.
	And they said, that's right, pedophile, pedophile.
	And then I said, what about, what about evolution?
	And they said, Not real?
	I said yes.
	Bollocks invented by Satanists to deny the existence of God.
	But a very good answer anyway.
	10 out of 10.
	It was good to know.
	I think children, they're very, they can absorb information, you know, and I have given them, you know, lessons over the years.
	I've been writing with them about how the world really is, and it's good to know they've been checking it in.
	It's lovely how much they love their horses, little girls and horses, it's such a natural thing, and not every little girl is lucky enough to indulge her love of horses.
	This is why I keep asking, when I get sort of Vicars and priests and other supposed experts to my podcast, I want to know, are the horses in heaven?
	And you know what?
	I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear, oh, but heaven will be so magnificent.
	You'll be having so much time singing God's praises and just like enjoying the colours and stuff.
	You won't need horses.
	They don't mention that, but apparently there are so many more colours that we don't see.
	Did Jesse Zobota mention Sonopod?
	Some of the people who've been tied in with the supernatural world, they report that Jesse Zobota's paid trips to heaven.
	And she's been in the throne room.
	So, yeah, I know it's weird how some people, I suppose some of my listeners and viewers don't, aren't there yet.
	You were saying, you were saying the thing about people who are down the rabbit hole, who are not Christian, It's not like, you know, we're so much better than you.
	I never feel that about Don Christensen.
	I'm just thinking, the stuff you don't understand and will never understand.
	Well, they're trying to do a jigsaw with half a dozen of the pictures of the pieces missing.
	With the corners missing?
	Well, yeah.
	I don't know, the corners are probably there for that analogy, because they can start to put the picture together, but there's a great big chunk in the middle that That they'll never get, no matter how hard they try, because, you know, without that God angle, you haven't got the end-level boss that explains everything.
	No, you'd have to mix up another analogy.
	I don't think, until you understand that it's Satan running the show on Earth, temporarily, by God's permissions, I keep saying, until you understand that, you're always going to be stuck on wise and Why would they do that though?
	And you're also going to get caught in traps, like, you know, a lot of people go, it's the Jews, or it's the Jesuits, or it's the... but really, It's not.
	There's a part, there's lots of baddies, lots of sort of gang, different gangs, you know.
	I mean, I'm sure that the Italians play their role, what with, you know, the Roman, the papal bloodlines and stuff.
	The Vatican being what it is.
	But it's not any one particular category.
	It's people working for Satan.
	And again, people, a lot of people, they've been trained.
	By our culture, not to believe in the supernatural.
	But unless you believe in the supernatural, you can't understand the material world.
	In fact, you can go through a complete religious education and they will still avoid questions of the supernatural.
	I mean, certainly our scripture schooling never touched on the supernatural.
	Anything slightly woo was written off as an analogy.
	Although, to be fair,
	I think when I was doing my scripture classes and getting, you know, top marks for remembering all the key points of the Sermon on the Mount or whatever, I'm not sure it would have been helpful if you'd had a teacher saying, and by the way, all this stuff is real and it's... No, but you've got a sense of what they believed and there was no question that Adam and Eve, Tower of Babel,
	and Noah's Ark were all allegorical stories intended to explain complicated things to stupid people.
	So if you know that you're not supposed to believe all of this thing literally, you're never going to be a complete Bible-believing Christian.
	You will just have a good working knowledge of a particular religion.
	I still think that there are loads and loads of priests and vicars out there Who think it's all kind of allegorical.
	Who think that it's a religion about caringness and diversity and stuff.
	They can't quite grasp the fact that it is.
	This is really important.
	And it's about your soul.
	And you want to get it right.
	You don't believe all that nonsense, do you?
	It's a good starting point with people who, if you want to talk faith with people who you're not sure whether they believe anything, you can start off with, do you believe you have a soul?
	The amount of people I know who say they don't, it's just, we're here, we die, that's it.
	Funnily enough, so I, when wife was in hospital, I should, I wonder if I should mention this or not, about the, I'm going to do, at some stage I'm going to do a substack piece about this.
	Essentially, the Lord's Prayer is really key.
	The bit in the Bible where Jesus says, this is how you pray.
	He wasn't saying it because he just wanted to fill in some space that day with some random words.
	He actually meant it.
	The Lord's Prayer, there's a reason why we learn that prayer very, very early on.
	I think I must have been about three when I learned it.
	Very early on.
	I don't know what the younger generations do, but there's a reason why it is very, very, very powerful in, frankly, warding off demons, in destroying demons.
	And I'll leave it there for the moment.
	So anyway, knowing this, I went into the It's very hard finding a smoking area in the hospital because they've all got this idea that smoking is bad for you, although I think it's another style.
	I think it's the stuff they put into cigarettes, which is bad for you.
	I don't think the tobacco, which is why I now smoke Pueblo Blue or American Spirit, because I think I tried going back to Golden Virginia Yellow after having smoked The American spirit.
	It tasted like crap.
	It was like smoking stuff.
	You could taste all the poisons in it.
	Went in for a smoke break.
	I found an area in the hospital outside the Marks and Spencer's cafe, under a tree.
	And I'd come to hospital without... I'd got all the ingredients, I'd got the skins, I'd got the filter, and I'd got the vacuum.
	But I'd forgotten the lighter.
	And you are stuffed because inevitably the WH Smith in a non-smoking hospital does not sell cigarette lighters or fags or anything else.
	So I thought, oh, I hope somebody's smoking.
	And luckily there was.
	There was an old boy smoking and his wife was ill.
	And I went over to chat with him and said, do you mind if I join you?
	So he gave me a light and I, um, And I said, it's very, very rare.
	Nobody smokes these days.
	And he said, oh, sensible.
	And I said, well, I'm not sure that's true, actually.
	I said, yeah, I think we need, we need to quit.
	They're very consoling.
	And he said, well, I've been smoking for, I've been smoking every day for the last 65 years and it's never done me any harm.
	And I said, well, there you are, there you have it.
	And then I turned the conversation towards the spiritual.
	And he said, are you one of those Jehovah's Witnesses?
	I said, no, I just happen to be one of those crazy people.
	I believe this stuff because it works.
	There's nothing after this, nothing.
	He said, well, you might be pleasantly surprised.
	I said, do you remember that Pray, you know, to the child.
	You should try it sometime.
	Try it on a father.
	And I started sort of saying it.
	I was pushing it a bit at this point.
	But I had in my head, you get loads and loads of demonic entities around hospitals because they feed on the misery and the despair.
	And I thought, well... Someone having a fag outside a hospital is a dead giver.
	Yeah, I just thought we'd try that.
	Anyway, the story doesn't have a revelatory ending where this guy suddenly says, I've suddenly realised I was wrong.
	And are you mean completely the wrong county?
	Well he was, he was from Bristol.
	So more or less, right?
	Probably that wasn't the perfect Bristol accent.
	No, it's getting there.
	Yeah, I did ask him that.
	He was an ex-lorry driver.
	Anyway, I hope that some of my words stuck in.
	I think that Just say the Lord's Prayer in your head.
	This is the takeaway from this particular segment, is if you're only going to learn one thing, or if you're only going to use one thing, one weapon, it's like napalm to demons.
	I mean, obviously things like Psalm 23 are fantastic, and I'm learning the prayer Archangel Michael in Latin, but these are all sort of like once you put the Lord's Prayer done and dusted.
	Yeah, the thing is, I'm going to enlarge on this theme at some stage, but we did a test.
	We did a test with certain prayers with somebody who can see the demons and can tell whether they are being banished or not.
	I mean, some people are going to be going, oh yeah, they were away in the ferries.
	But some of you will be thinking, oh, this is interesting.
	What's going on here?
	Trust us on this.
	Trust us on this.
	You really can trust us on this.
	So we tried a few of them, a few of the prayers.
	And some of them, you know, the Sancto Michael Arcangeli, good, it sort of gets, it's like disperses the crowd, as it were.
	You can push through and they sort of move either side of you.
	But the Lord's Prayer is like napalm.
	It just obliterates them.
	And it's funny, isn't it?
	Because you'd think that maybe St.
	Michael prayer being in Latin, being directed to the chief of God's warrior army.
	That's what St.
	Michael does.
	You'd think that would be kind of at least as good, but no.
	The original and best, the one that Jesus said, this is the one.
	I like it that the irreverent podcast always starts off with one of the boys reading the Lord's Prayer.
	Jamie does it without the... what's it called?
	The bit at the end?
	Oh, what?
	For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory?
	What's it called?
	The bit at the end?
	No, it has a really specific name.
	Does it?
	The optometry.
	I'm going to suddenly remember at the end of this.
	I thought by starting this I'd remember.
	Doxology!
	Oh, is that right?
	It's called the Doxology.
	Is it?
	And it's a later edition.
	And Jamie, being a purist, tends to go without.
	Oh, but... In the Book of Common Prayer communion service, they normally have the one without the doxology at the beginning, and the doxology at the end.
	That says maybe, but... No, if one of the other boys is reading it that day, then they go with.
	With or without, but it's a thing, yeah.
	Whether or not you take it.
	Actually, I'm going to ask... Ask?
	Yeah, why not?
	This is the occasion to do it.
	Are there, is there anybody out there listening to this?
	And contact me if you do.
	If you have the power to see entities, the entities that feed on human misery and high emotion, because I think there are some people out there who can do this.
	And you can also see people's auras It's mentioned in St.
	Paul.
	St.
	Paul in one of the letters.
	Corinthians.
	It talks about God-given abilities and one is the ability to discern spirits.
	So it's a known thing.
	It is.
	I mean it's a bit like Jonathan Myles Lee's psychic abilities.
	When you find you have them, and I don't, At least, nothing to speak of.
	Then you probably think you're the only person in the world to have this, because no one else around you understands.
	But you might have to meet a million people to meet the one in a million and a half that ability.
	Or it might be one in ten thousand, or as little as one in a thousand.
	But unless you're discussing it with people, and he tended not to, you're not going to meet other people who have got that ability.
	What it is, is people who've had these powers probably since birth, they've probably had a stage in their life where they've tried to talk to somebody about it and had a really bad experience when the person has either shunned them or worse tried to get them sectioned or seen by a psychiatrist or whatever.
	And they're getting voices.
	So they shut up about it.
	So I would like to Bring together those people who've got this power, because it's quite a useful bit.
	One of the things I was saying to you, Dick, was that I do various podcasts with supposed experts in the Christian field, and I find that Quite often they don't know as much as you would hope they would.
	They've got these blind spots, be it the state of Israel, for example, that would be one.
	Or it might be demons and the reality thereof with Church of England priests.
	Some of them don't know as much about The Psalms, for example.
	I mean, OK, so I've been on the crash course, but I wouldn't expect them all to know about the Psalms to learn so many by heart.
	But it's quite interesting that in Christianity, as in every other field, the purported experts, people who've spent their life studying it and all have jobs in the Christian industry, I'm not quite as... there... as you might...
	The thing is, I suppose the lesson is there are no experts.
	You're kind of on your own.
	You've got to do your own research.
	Well, a parish priest has not got the time to continue beyond what they've learned at the seminary.
	They're so busy visiting the sick and doing half a dozen services on Sunday, writing their sermons, doing all the other things they have to do, being on the local board of Whatever, that their research and their learning to that degree ended at the seminary.
	But also, they've been indoctrinated by the values of the system.
	I'd love to be a vicar.
	I'd be a really cool hunting vicar.
	I thought we were hunting.
	I'd give good sermon.
	I'd definitely get good sermon, but to get there you'd have to go through all sorts of nonsense.
	You'd have to do your diversity training, inclusion and awareness.
	I'd have to get a rainbow stole, probably.
	You'd probably have to learn about white guilt.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Slave reparations and all that.
	So it'd be completely pointless.
	But I was mentioning to you on the other walk we did the other day, yesterday in fact, about how even awake people, even people who are really quite down the rabbit hole,
	When it comes to their own area of speciality, say they're a lawyer, they could be absolutely down the rubber hole in everything, but when it comes to the law, they'll say, oh yeah, sesquivy is a load of rubbish, all this stuff is rubbish, it's just part of the style.
	I'm not sure whether that's true.
	I think that there are these hidden areas of the law which have deliberately been kept secret, even from Lawyers.
	And anyway, you're thinking, well, the reason you're a lawyer is that you went and you did your bar studies and you did your law degree or whatever, but you were being fed establishment stuff.
	But the example I gave was, there was a fracker a while back on my Telegram channel, which can get fractious, when I raised the possibility that Ayrton Senna was offed by the cabal.
	Have you looked into the Ayrton Senna?
	No, it's the first time I've ever heard his name in conjunction with conspiracy theories.
	I like the Ayrton Senna rabbit hole.
	So have you seen photographs of his crash helmet?
	No.
	It's drilled right through the middle like a bullet would.
	And when you look into this, you discover that the person who got to the body first found that there was a sort of spine up front, but the back of his head had all been blown away.
	Now, I'm not a sniper.
	No.
	Or a pathologist.
	But you've seen enough stuff about sniping.
	I've seen enough about sniping and pathologies to know that's what happens when a bullet goes into your brain.
	More like a dinner plate at the back.
	So the story, I wasn't planning on mentioning this, but I think actually it's a great thing to mention, because why not?
	That when you start looking into it, of course you go on Reddit groups and stuff that have discussed this years ago.
	And so there's the doctor who investigated the wound, and there was always a normie excuse available for the general public, and the normie excuse was, I think, the steering column?
	Yeah, or they've got this, and you think, well, how would a steering column make such a neat little puncture?
	That high up?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So somebody on my telegram channel got really upset, really angry about this.
	He was down with that 9-11, down with the fact that the moon landings were fake, but he would not accept that Ayrton Senna had been offed by snipers.
	And the reason he knew this was because he was a Formula One fan, and he knew about how hard it would be to shoot a racing driver.
	with a sniper's bullet, and then somebody who'd been in the army that's also been on the podcast sort of confirmed that this would be, you know, a challenging shot.
	And you're thinking, guys, you are thinking like normies.
	You're not thinking like, look, David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear.
	Well, he didn't.
	But these people are good at delusions.
	They're good at tricks.
	I suppose in this case it wasn't a delusion, it was a reality.
	But there are people who know the course where Senna was.
	Oft, as I think we can now be sure.
	And they say, well, that corner, there's lots of shrubbery where a sniper could hide.
	A grassy knoll.
	A grassy knoll.
	Every sniper needs one.
	Or a book depository.
	And you're thinking, if you wanted to assassinate Ayrton Senna, how would you do it?
	Well, I don't know how many laps there are in a Grand Prix.
	Many.
	So you're going to have a large number of laps in which to take your one in a million shot.
	It's not like, it's not going to be like the trumplet.
	You know, that's not that impossibility.
	It's going to be, you'll probably have multiple shooters.
	The ambulance crew is presumably staffed with people who are going to not find anything wrong because they've been paid off not to.
	But if you miss the first few times, you know he's going to be in the leak because he's Ayrton Senna.
	Am I allowed to ask why they offed him?
	What did he miss?
	F, think about it, F1 is, think about the black and white, the chequered flag.
	It's full of Masonic, it's a cult symbolism and high-level Freemasonry on stilts.
	It's, possibly they wanted to inject a bit of life into the Formula One thing, because you remember when our father He used to be a racing driver and he often said, you know, people really come there because they want to see you crash.
	They won't admit it, but it makes it much more exciting.
	They've got more invested in it.
	And I think that possibly F1 was getting a bit... I mean, I wonder whether they maybe did Nippi Lauda as well.
	I don't know.
	I don't know enough about Formula One.
	I'm just saying that... I'm not saying 100% that Ayrton Senna was offed with a sniper's bullet, but it's... But the hole in the helmet was mighty suspicious.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	But going back to my original point, here you had two experts, purported experts and military man and an F1 fan both defending their patch using normie thinking.
	Everyone reverts to normally thinking when it's their own speciality.
	It's like, I suppose it would be like me angrily insisting that Shakespeare, the man from Stratford, wrote the play attributed to Shakespeare because, you know, it's ridiculous to suppose otherwise.
	You know, I read English and... Well, do you notice that one of our ancestors, Abraham Weivel, inventor of the first Far Escape, He was also an expert on the portraits of Shakespeare.
	Oh, I'd forgotten about that!
	Isn't that weird?
	Is anyone else here related to Abraham Weivel?
	Dick and I are.
	We don't know how exactly.
	It's just one of the family pastoral knowledge things.
	We've got an etching of his, a portrait of him.
	I'm just very suspicious of... I suppose everyone's got...
	Dodgy ancestors, and by which I mean ancestors who might have been… Cabal.
	Cabal.
	I wouldn't like to be one of the Bloodlines families, though.
	You should have listened to the podcast I listened to the other day, but the South African woman, I've maybe had people listen to it, talking about how the system works, and they're all sort of given traumatic Treatment from a very early age, you know, raped as children and so that their mind fractures and they live these double lives.
	And I'm thinking it's so much nicer having been born into an ordinary upper middle class Midlands family.
	Family of Midlands industrialists.
	Midlands industrialists.
	Had all the nice things, But with having boast parents rather than ones who are raping us every day.
	And I'm not saying this to boast.
	I feel so sorry for the people who have traumatic and abused lives.
	I'm grateful that we were given... I think everyone who has loving parents and a loving family should be grateful for this.
	People have been saying, How lucky I am having brothers and sisters like you and Hal.
	And the extended brothers and sisters, you know, with the halves and the steps.
	I love my family, even though we're all well different from one another.
	We really cover all the basics, don't we?
	Well, I was thinking, on my drive down, that what do people make of us when they meet us together?
	Do they think those two are exactly the same?
	Like the girls at Riding today, it was like, You can definitely tell he's your brother.
	But that was because of some of the things I was saying.
	Some of my mannerisms.
	I consider myself to be as different from you as I am from any of my friends.
	And yet, our DNA, if DNA is a thing, would be identical under a microscope.
	If DNA is a thing, I like that.
	I thought I threw that one in.
	I don't need to try and be like you, because it's our differences that are actually what's more interesting than the things that make us the same, because that's a given.
	Well, you don't want to be... I mean, on many occasions you've been appalled by how terrible I am, and why would you want to be like me?
	I wouldn't want to be spinning plates right now, for instance.
	That's true.
	Well, your extreme diet and extreme exercise lifestyle.
	You are quite an extreme version of me.
	That's why I'm considered to be the acceptable face.
	Yeah, I'm just... Our sister is a lovely face.
	Yes.
	I was thinking, our father doesn't quite get how different his offspring are.
	Which can create trouble in our WhatsApp family group chat.
	And he'll post things like...
	A lot of chemtrails about today or something like that.
	No!
	No!
	Don't talk about it!
	I'm sure everyone watching who does WhatsApp group knows that it can almost be like sending a love letter as a teenager to the wrong girl by mistake.
	You know, it's sort of like there are certain things you can say in some groups that you wouldn't dream of saying in another but he comes across as no filter but then he's nearly 90 and he doesn't give a shit.
	Yes, but for those who have to clear up the mess afterwards, do give a shit.
	For family peace, you need a certain amount of forbearance on the family group chats.
	So I did have a word with him and he'll be watching this but I'm just going to reinforce it.
	The family group chat is for reptile photographs, reptile identification.
	We're good on that.
	If someone has spotted a reptile wherever they are shoveling the world and they want it identified by the other members of the group.
	The family chat is the place to do it.
	Admiring new babies.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	To a degree.
	I think one can do this thing to excess.
	I very much balked at the photographs that were sent the other day from the Brighton Pride Parade.
	I wasn't going, Yay!
	Yay Pride!
	I was like, you know, the thing is, In about, when was it?
	25 years ago, I think, roughly, I went to Mardi Gras in New Orleans, where, yes, such as men looking extraordinarily camp on the back of lorries, whatever, flatbed trucks.
	Oh, you've been on a lorry too?
	It would have been, sort of, it was sufficiently novel in that time.
	But now it's so bloody ubiquitous.
	I went to, I was in, about six years ago, I went to Switzerland.
	Was I in Bern, probably?
	I was probably in Bern.
	And the gay pride thing went past, and there was a sort of, there was a sort of Bear Stearns float, and a Goldman Sachs float, and probably UBS And you're thinking, why's she got banks sponsoring, encouraging everyone to pretend to be gay?
	It's like, it's just stupid.
	I was driving through Malvern the other day, I noticed the rainbow flag everywhere.
	I said to the wife, what the hell is this?
	She said, oh don't you know?
	It's Malvern Pride now.
	I said, Malvern Pride?
	There must be about four gay people in the whole of Malvern.
	Yeah.
	Oh no, it's like everyone's gay in Malvern.
	They were probably enjoying being gay as well, in the way that old-school gays enjoyed being gay, which is that it was slightly sort of furtive and discreet.
	And suddenly they're finding they've got to kind of celebrate it.
	So anyway, zoomorph and pride.
	Just part, again, reptiles, reptile identification and Limited number of baby photographs, and yeah, I've gone to Columbia.
	Look, look at me.
	That's acceptable.
	But even then I was quite sparing.
	Yeah, and I'm thinking twice about whether or not my show jumping experience should make it onto the chat.
	Do you know the terrible thing is, Dick?
	They won't give a shit.
	No?
	As good as you felt going over the jump, and as good as I felt watching you go over the jump, Or rather seeing your expression after the jump.
	People are just going to look at that photograph and go... It's not very big, is it?
	No.
	You hear that a lot, do you?
	Yeah, any other business before we go off?
	I've got scones and... Well, I know you've got scones and plums to keep.
	You see, I have this problem which I'm going to share with everybody.
	As you do?
	As I do.
	I've discovered...
	How can I put this?
	Don't try and put it.
	Delicately.
	No, we're not going there.
	Bread.
	I like bread, but it gives me an itchy arse.
	And sometimes it's worse than that.
	Sometimes it gives me itchy bollocks as well.
	So I'll hold off bread for a while, and I'll be thinking, Yeah, but you know, maybe you've got rid of the bread thing now.
	This absence of bread for three or four days.
	The bread arse monster is constant.
	And then I'll have some bread.
	I'll be stuck out and about and I'll have to have a sandwich or something.
	And within about half an hour, if not shorter, Oh, what's that itchy feeling?
	Where is that?
	Oh, I recognise this.
	Why are my bollocks like buster gonads?
	And you think, oh no, this bread is so nice.
	It's gone for you.
	Well, you see, this is the thing.
	I'm going to have to.
	Think of that lovely clotted cream.
	I'm going to have to.
	It's the clotted cream I like.
	And to a lesser extent, the little bit of jam I allow myself.
	I do have slathers of cream.
	Because the fat is not bad, it's the sugar that's bad.
	And the wheat.
	Well, it's like when I cooked you that ribeye steak that day, I noticed you sort of did the old school thing of not eating the fat, but I was trying to eat the fat.
	I eat a bit more fat than I used to, but unless I'm having it with a bit of lean, I can't, I'm still not quite there.
	I think the dog appreciated it.
	It did.
	But, ribeye steak with just a salad.
	So that is.
	And at the end of it, like half an hour later, we did a walk.
	You're not feeling that, oh, I've just had a big meal I could do with a snooze.
	You're feeling like taking on the world.
	So I know a lot of our friends are on the carnivore diet.
	And they would call us complete wusses for even having a salad with it.
	But carnivores become carnivores.
	Oooh.
	You know what?
	I swear to you, that came out instantly, without preparation.
	Unlike... Straight to the t-shirt.
	So there's a...
	There's a writer I know, a normie writer, and he's quite successful.
	He's a name.
	He's got that mix of sort of cultish credibility and mainstream sales.
	He writes sort of essay books.
	I once did an event with him, I would never do it again, where, you know, an evening with, I was the kind of, I was there to ask the questions and bring him out of his shell.
	Okay, so you were hosting and he was the victim?
	No, no, I was very much the stooge designer.
	No, it wasn't like a, I hadn't chosen this.
	He'd asked me to do it.
	And I guess we've had judgment because you don't want to be, you don't want to be the straight man.
	Well, I don't want to be the straight man.
	No, no.
	So my job was to just ask him questions and then he could, he could You know, shine, shine.
	And in the chat before, in the Green Room chat beforehand, he came up with a phrase that he rather liked, you know, on the spur of the moment in that conversation.
	Now, you or I, if we'd come up with a phrase and spoke, we'd feel, well, shame that... Yeah, what a waste that I didn't come up with that during the show.
	Well, no, shame, that's a nice phrase, but that moment was just between us.
	He worked the phrase into the show and pretended that it was a kind of apesu of that particular moment, like it had come.
	Not desperate, no.
	Not at all desperate.
	It's how people work who are in the beast system.
	This is how people work it.
	People are fake.
	People are not sincere.
	All the world's a stage.
	I don't resent him for it, I just observed.
	It's like assuming that all that stuff on things like Whose Line Is It Anyway was completely unrehearsed, or Nevermind the Buzzcocks and that sort of thing.
	And so like, these comedians are so good at coming up with stuff on the spot, and they've got the cameras on them and everything, and they're coming up with these amazing one-liners.
	And I realised, well, it was all rehearsed, and the reason they look so slightly ashamed at the applause they're getting is because it's the third or fourth time they've made that joke that day.
	And they're not particularly proud of it.
	If it's on TV it's fake.
	I just wanted to mention one other thing because we've been talking about lots of other stuff while you've been here.
	TV, well you said it's like, you questioned somebody else, like it's having a running sewer.
	Yeah an open sewer running through your house.
	So we were short of something to watch the other day and we watched a very classic episode of this obscure sitcom that in the past I've loved greatly called... it's a... what's it called?
	It's Always Sunny.
	It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
	And the classic episode, because it has the catchiest earworm you'll ever hear, is the Nightman Cometh, where the characters in the show randomly decide to put on a musical, which this guy's written and spurred at the moment.
	It's called Nightman Cometh.
	And it's got this fantastic climactic chorus.
	Fighter of the Night, man.
	You can look it up.
	Instant earworm.
	Instant earworm.
	It's good.
	And watching it again, as is always the case with TV, when you watch it with awake eyes, and you see all the subliminal or not so subliminal messages.
	So, this musical, is essentially about child abuse.
	It's about the sexual abuse of a boy.
	And you've got Danny DeVito playing the troll, whom the Nightman pays for access to his hole.
	I mean, they're not exactly subtle about it.
	And you've got this character playing this Grown up, but playing a child.
	And then you get the child being raped in the musical.
	And it's all being presented to you as a kind of one of those crazy, wacky things that is always sunny Philadelphia.
	Because it is quite left field and off kilter.
	And it's a kind of connoisseurs comedy show, rather than a kind of mainstream comedy show.
	And you're thinking, they can't even let Cultish comedy escape the occult, satanic web.
	And there's one thing that Helen noticed when we were watching this, which is that the female character is given her a lot of the role where she has to play the part of this woman who wants to have sex with this boy.
	And she's saying, I don't like this song.
	It makes me sound like a paedophile.
	And the guy who's written the musical says, OK, I'll cut your song and I'll cut your part too.
	And she says, well, no, but I don't want to lose my part.
	She, having established her objection to sounding like a paedophile, which is what she's doing, she then goes ahead and sings the song in which she enacts the part of a paedophile because otherwise she doesn't get the gig.
	What's the subliminal message of that episode?
	What it's saying is you may feel uncomfortable with this kind of Satanism thing, but you've got to go along with it.
	If you want to be part of the show, you've got to go along.
	Suck it up.
	And I'm thinking, wow, is there anything on TV which isn't working on us in some way?
	I think probably the answer is probably not.
	Not even the Generation Game.
	Not even the Generation Game.
	Because that's the other thing.
	My theory about catchphrases.
	Nice to see you.
	To see you nice.
	Or the birdie song from the field of pop.
	It's all designed to infantilize you, to mock you.
	So that the people who run the world can go, look at these useless eaters with their stupid catchphrases.
	They deserve everything we do to them because they like the birdie song.
	Or they say nice to see you to see you nice.
	Or blaggity blank, blaggity blank, blaggity blank, blaggity blank.
	That's how it works.
	That's the game.
	Amazing that we've gone from horse riding to blankety-blank in the space of an hour.
	We never say horse riding.
	Don't we?
	It's very infridate.
	You say riding.
	What else are you riding?
	Elephants?
	Well, I was talking about riding lurches earlier.
	If they were the size of horses, they would be very much like racehorses.
	I tell you what, if horses were made of lurches, I would not be getting anywhere bloody near.
	Well, that's what we came to the conclusion.
	Imagine something eating meat the size of a horse.
	So anyway, we need to specify horse riding in my view, in case you get confused with lurches.
	Right!
	I'm very new to all this!
	I know we're a bit common secretly because we come from the Midlands.
	Bush.
	And I know all about the stuff of the dogs when you go hunting.
	Yeah, they're called hounds.
	And they don't bark.
	They speak, don't they?
	They do speak.
	Hello, Jones!
	Good to see you out again.
	Have you brought your brother who talks about horse riding?
	He's so common.
	Yes, he is.
	We don't like his sort very much.
	He probably thinks a pink coat is not a red coat.
	There you see you now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Although, actually, you know what?
	I, although you hear it referred to as hunting pink, I don't think people say that man in the pink coat.
	I've never heard that.
	They say that he's in the red coat.
	So it's, there are all these, these little traps and then kind of things that aren't traps, people think are traps.
	And that's how, that's how our social system works.
	It's designed, you know, it's designed, I've worked this out.
	Right.
	It's like Sarah, it's like the dogs in the Terminator.
	You remember?
	The dogs.
	Oh right, they can sniff out the... The dogs can sniff out the replicants.
	Were there replicants in that?
	Replicants is a... Blade Runner term.
	You know, robot thingies.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But in the same way, I have... This is a whole other conversation which we can't have time for here.
	But there are a lot more psychopaths and sociopaths about than people realise.
	A lot.
	A lot.
	People who don't know how to feel and negotiate their way through the world.
	So they copy other people's behavior.
	And they often get it.
	They often react in an overtop way or completely oblivious if they haven't yet learned the correct behavior.
	And you need to watch out for those people.
	And I think that one of the reasons we've, I hate to use the word evolved, but developed, let's say, or the reason that we practice all these different social
	The nuances that we observe, we can tell by the way somebody speaks, probably what background they come from, what their educational background is, who they are, what their accent and things like that, how they dress, their intonation, all these subtle clues to enable us to make sense of any given situation, but they are there to trap.
	One other thing since you passed, the dogs, Sarah Connor's dogs.
	Right, I think we've earned our scorn now.
	Anything you want to say Dick before we go?
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	Yeah.
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	Anyway, normal service will be resumed soon-ish, I guess, but those of you who are looking after ailing loved ones will know it's kind of a full-time job.
	And that's it.
	So thank you, Dick, and thank you everyone for listening and watching.
	I love you all.

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