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May 26, 2024 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Dick Delingpole
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Welcome to the Deling Pod, uh, guest Dick.
Hello, brother.
I noticed that you sent me a link and we'd arranged to do this just on a whim and I said it's 3.30 okay and you said perfect.
I log in at 3.30 to the link that you sent me.
You're here and waiting at exactly 3.30.
Who are you and what have you done with my brother?
I know.
Isn't it weird?
I think it was my fear of you.
Because you know I'm frightened of you.
I fear your wrath.
That's justifiably so.
On issues of timekeeping.
Because you seem to think that if you say 3.30 I have to be there.
Like 3.30 rather than 3.30-ish.
Well, yeah, but ish is a very moveable feast, isn't it?
Yeah, it is, it is.
No, we were saying, weren't we, that I was like a well-oiled fighting machine today.
And I was comparing you to a Warhammer Space Marine, which now, apparently, accept women.
They've retrospectively changed the history of the Space Marines to say that, yeah, yeah, they always had women, obviously, and certain people, Henry Cavill among them, I don't think this is a good idea.
You mentioned Huey Cavill and it makes me think, not for the first time, That he might be the only person in the acting industry who is not a paid-up member of the Illuminati.
Um, who's the guy who plays Reacher?
Because he's meant to be a Christian, isn't he?
But he's been saying some stupid things lately as well.
I see.
He did surprise me.
He's been a bit anti-Trump, but then again... Which side do you pick in all that?
No, but he's right, Dick!
Yeah, I know, but anti-Trump to be pro-Biden is different to being anti-Trump, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
It's a bit like the people who say, oh, we can't wait to get the Tories out, and then they go and ruin it by saying, I think Keir Starmer will make a great Prime Minister.
And it's sort of like, yeah, we all want the Tories out, but we want Labour in even less.
We want them all out.
Forever.
All of them.
You've just frozen on me now.
That's no good.
That's not my fault.
Let me just check my...
I've got the same connection.
I just think it's just they don't want us to speak, Dick.
Right.
Well, they can try and stop us.
In fact, that seems to be what they're doing.
Are they the same people who have decided to fuck around with the weather?
Yes.
I think we can come on to that in a moment, because that's... Because it's really kind of overwhelming at the moment.
It is, isn't it?
It is.
I mean, I think it's worse than the mass poisoning of the populace with death jabs.
Because at least...
People had a degree of... I mean, I know I'm quite forgiving that it wasn't really informed consent, because people weren't informed, and I feel sorry for all those people who took the jabs who were conned.
But at the same time, at least people did have a semblance of a choice whether or not to take the death jab.
Whereas we have no choice at all.
No matter how awake we are, we still can't opt out of having chemtrail and weather manipulation induced smog.
Well I've got a feeling that the reason I've got a cold at the moment, and pretty much have had all year, is because of the crap they're spraying into the air.
Whether it's poisoning us by poison or it's just to manipulate the weather patterns or what have you.
That alone is annoying enough, but on top of that we've got all the chemtrail deniers.
Oh no, they can't do that, they wouldn't do that.
The thing that you've pointed out, I know an airline pilot, or I am an airline pilot.
I love that bit where I press the chemtrail button.
LOL!
Which is completely missed the point.
Those are almost the most annoying people in the world, the people who do the enemy's work for them, by giving cover through the medium of forced and actually not very funny humour, to mock the cause of all us people who are just trying to point out that the Emperor is not only naked, but he's totally evil and wants to kill us all.
Well, he's naked because he's shafting us from behind.
That's why he's got naked in the first place.
That is why he's doing it.
Most people are just saying, you know what, the reason your bum is hurting is nothing to do with the Emperor behind you, humping away, naked and sweaty.
Oh no, it's not that.
He doesn't, the Emperor doesn't even use lube anymore and still people are in denial.
He doesn't even shout surprise these days.
He doesn't, he doesn't.
Did you see by the way, just randomly, somebody put up on Twitter I think it was, an interview that Shirley Temple, the grown-up Shirley Temple, when she was probably in her 60s or something, gave to one of the American talk show hosts and was talking about when she went to MGM, I think, was that?
Louis B. Mayer.
She went with her mother to the studios and her mother went into Louis B. Mayer's office and Shirley Temple, who was 12 at the time, Got taken into the office of Louis B Mayer's business partner.
And the business partner was naked.
What?
As you do when you interview 12 year old girls.
Was was so shocked she laughed and rather than presumably submitting to this man's advances and The man was very very cross and and and chased her out of the room or something and then she spoke to her mother about it on the way home and The mother said well Louie being mayor tried to do the same thing to me something something almost like and
But I was thinking that there was a time when these things were mentioned on talk shows, where not anymore.
Henry Cavill, I'm still... Do you think that... Are there any photographs of Henry Cavill going... Or... Or... Or...
There will be, inevitably, because there's now a screen grab somewhere of you doing that.
I know, I know.
And there are some twats who are going to be using this.
Henry Cavill is a geek.
He just happens to be tall, good-looking and a talented actor, unlike most geeks.
He goes to Warhammer World and things like that.
He does wargaming.
You've just reminded me of the thing I wanted to ask you about.
Yeah?
Have you watched... Please tell me you haven't.
Actually, no, please tell me you have.
What's it called?
Not Bunker.
It's science fiction.
It's based on a video game.
I know what you'd know.
Not Outbreak.
Everyone's screaming at the screen now.
Outland or something like that.
I'll make them suffer a bit longer.
Not Bunker.
Not Outland.
What is it called?
I've got it on my watch list.
It's going to be watched at some point.
I know what you're talking about.
What's it called?
No, go on, Dick.
I don't know how long we can... By Alzheimer's, it's going to... What is it called?
Oh shit, this is really bad.
This is awful, isn't it?
This is going to be the worst moment ever.
How can people trust us, or follow us, or believe a thing we say when we can't even... To be fair, I've got my... I hate to use the word Lyme disease because I think it's bollocks, but my symptoms, my brain fog thing, so I'm not... What's my excuse?
um hang on I'm just gonna shout downstairs hi guys what's that stupid science fiction thing we're watching Paul what Fallout.
Fallout?
Is it Fallout?
Is that right?
It's called Fallout.
Of course it's called Fallout.
No, I haven't watched it yet, but I'm going to watch it.
Okay, so they're in the underground bunkers after the apocalypse.
Two centuries after the apocalypse, no less.
And guess what the number of the bunker that they're living in is?
Is it number 33?
Of all the numbers, how could you possibly have guessed that it was number 33?
I don't know, just a wild stab in the dark.
Yeah, okay.
So you get the 33 bunker episode, but it's the experiences of different characters.
In another episode-let involving the people who live on the surface, there is this kind of knight-like, that's knight-like warrior cult, where
People this is this is this is that hence the the reference with you about the space marines and stuff When you become one of these night things of the future you can dress up in this exoskeleton and you know become Yeah, that's like a space everything.
Yeah Yeah, exactly.
And you also, you know, these knights have squires who follow them and just, you know, just service their various needs, probably, you know, provide their bottoms or whatever.
Anyway, the scene is set in this sort of training camp where all these young would-be squires are desperate to get promoted from sort of grunt status, from sweeping the parade ground.
Floor status to and One of the characters is this just like complete NPC character who's just Boring, but then his friend is this this transgender Person and we know it's transgender because because somebody refers to them the book using the pronoun they and
And I'm thinking we've had 200 years since civilization collapsed.
200 years of really rough, tough conditions where you would imagine it would soon whittle out the sort of the feeble people and feeble sort of mental habits and stuff.
You know, everything that would not be conducive to a rough, tough civilization.
And you'd have thought, wouldn't you, that transgenderism would not survive 200 years into the future?
It's kind of not really getting your priorities in order, is it?
I noticed you retweeted my tweet the other day saying, meanwhile in first world problem news.
And someone was talking about Sting threatening to leave the Garrick Club if they didn't start accepting women.
Not just Sting.
Not just Sting.
Sting and who other, what other no-marks?
Stephen Fry.
I don't think that the Garrick Club... It's such a low goal that though, isn't it?
It's so sort of like, in our sort of It's cloud cuckoo fairyland that we live in, unlike you peasants.
We are still trying to do good things.
It's just... They really were not reading the room.
My question to you, Dick, is should we be even acknowledging the existence of these people?
Because I just think it's like, you know when children have tantrums?
Yeah.
And the last thing you're supposed to do is give them attention.
You just let them get up and ignore them.
In the same way, I don't think we should really be caring at this stage who Stephen Fry thinks he is and what Sting does.
In a way, though, you're turning down good material by not referencing it, though.
I mean, anything that backs up things that we've been saying for a long time is surely, you know, just an in-passing sort of off-the-cuff comment.
It's nothing that we should get worried about.
And it's not an argument we should be getting involved with, but just to point out the complete irrelevance of their argument is possibly an easy goal.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't want to come over all Christian here, but do you not think that it is giving way to temptation?
It's a kind of low-hanging fruit designed to seduce you from the path of righteousness.
That mocking Stephen Fry, it's kind of, you know, and Sting.
I mean, come on.
I mean, Sting.
I think if you were going to let it get to you, and you know that thing you were saying about how the demons, the dark forces, they love that emotion when you're on Twitter and you start to react to someone goading you and your heart starts thumping.
You start to get that anger rising and you, for no good reason, and they feed on that.
I think as long as you're not going into that sense, as long as it's just a, you're walking past a goal, there's a football in front of it.
Yeah.
And you just kick it and move on.
I mean, you'd be mad not to, but I think there's levels to which you can get involved.
We'd miss the goal.
We'd miss the goal.
Yeah.
We'd probably miss the ball altogether.
We weren't.
We're not noted for our ball skills.
We never had the skills.
Good at solitary sports.
Do you think that's the reason why we've become the outcasts, the misfits that we are today?
Because we were never good at football.
Because we'd never play kicky ball.
Always picked last, or worse still, mascot.
I think I was frequently mascot because I was an odd number or something like that and I was allowed to just stand on the touchline which was fine by me because that was better than taking part in that whole nonsense.
But didn't you, because when we were suddenly at prep school I used to resent Insofar as I recognize that he was the source of the problem.
I used to resent our father for not being one of those.
Because a lot of the kids came to prep school really good.
They had all the skills already.
They had the coordination.
They could catch a ball and throw it.
I still cannot throw a ball at any distance anywhere.
I could not throw a hand grenade.
You'd throw like a girl.
I throw like a handicapped girl, you know, I'm that bad.
And so, I used to resent at the time because I was thinking, this is what happens when you've got one of those dads that doesn't kick a ball around with you in the garden and doesn't set up cricket nets on your lawn and stuff.
No, but what were we doing instead with our father?
We were off to obscure islands.
In the Mediterranean and further afield, collecting rare reptiles in buckets lined with butter.
Yeah.
I mean, how many other kids were doing that?
I'll take that over Kiki Ball with Danny.
Passing few, I would say.
Yeah, passing few.
In fact, I would say, if there was anyone listening to this podcast or watching it who can claim to have had a childhood in which they too went to remote islands with buckets and coated the side with butter so that the lizards could not escape.
Rotting through to the bottom to attract the lizards, then catch the bucket against rock and come back half an hour later to find a bucket full of lizards.
And then put lizards in linen bags and transport them back to England in the hand luggage.
And preferably don't check they're all right during the flight, thus releasing a load of geckos into the body of the aircraft.
I mean, we predated snakes on a plane with geckos on a plane, the slightly less terrifying version.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I suppose that gave us an edge and also, I mean, an insight into the ways of the lizard people because we'd been working with their kind for, what, 10, 15 years.
Yeah, I don't... Well, go on.
I'll tell you something, well, not that interesting but quite interesting.
So, as you know, I have Yes.
So, one of the places we went to was really nice, called Palomino.
And Palomino has this beautiful, clean river which goes down to the sea and it goes through what looks like jungle.
you know, in the form of a kind of cunning segue.
So one of the places we went to was really nice called Palomino.
And Palomino has this beautiful, clean river, which goes down to the sea and it goes through what looks like jungle.
Except it turns out that had you tried going there, say, 30 years ago, you would have been in the middle of Pablo Escobar owned country.
And you would not have seen rainforest.
You would have seen coca plants everywhere with and sort of with the local tribe in their sort of white that their white tribal garb.
They would have been harvesting the coke and they were using men with guns and stuff and well, you couldn't have gone there because you'd have been killed or kidnapped and all this stuff that you think of as jungle is actually just secondary rainforest, which is grown up because it because you know stuff grows like Topsy in Columbia anyway.
There's this thing you do called tubing where you go with your guide through the rain along these sort of forest trails up and down and he carries these inner tubes of tractor tires on his head, poor chap, while you sort of stumble up this trail and when you get to the end of the trail you go to this tribal village
And then, the tribal village is on the edge of a river, and you tube your way down the river, because there are no crocodiles or anything, and it's really beautiful.
And we were tubing our way down the river, looking at the birds and stuff, and I, this is the semi-interesting thing, and I spotted, I would say, what, 500 yards away, maybe further, in the middle of the jungle, An iguana sitting on a rock.
And the reason I could do that, I mean nobody else saw it, I said, oh look there's an iguana sitting on a rock, was obviously because all that training from our childhood, and I'm sure you've got the same skill, we can spot a lizard at well over a thousand paces.
Well the ultimate is having to look for meleons, isn't it?
Yeah.
With their notorious ability to change colour to the plants around them.
And when we were hunting for Jackson's three-horned chameleon.
The tiger chameleons were the ones in the Seychelles.
Right.
Jackson's chameleons, I think you only get in Madagascar.
I think.
Oh.
You sure?
There's not a three-horned chameleon in the Seychelles?
We can look that one up.
Madagascar is... People are going to be writing in furiously saying, how dare you say there aren't three-horned chameleons in the Seychelles?
That's the sort of issue that would rile a lot of our viewers and listeners.
Never mind Gaza.
The same viewers who have never had childhoods collecting lizards in buckets.
But yeah, we can't have it all.
Yeah, but you're right.
On your tubing, are there rapids?
Yes.
But nothing too terrifying that it will... No.
What happens is that they join all the tubes together.
Right.
To form a kind of tube raft.
And your guide sort of acts as your sort of paddler.
So he sort of manipulates you and occasionally gets onto his own tube as well.
And somehow the rapids are never... I mean the rapids are pretty rapid in places but they're never so rapid that you die.
Right.
And is your bum sticking through the tube?
I did get my bottom bashed on occasion, but mostly not.
Right, because that's what I was wondering.
A sharp rock and surely you'd be experiencing bum trauma.
Do you want to know the worst thing that happened?
Yes, of course.
It was awful.
It was absolutely awful.
The faun had the shits.
That's nice.
So she was in a weakened mental state.
Yeah.
And do you know what she forgot to do?
She forgot to put on any sun cream.
Right.
And this was between about midday and half past one.
Right.
And there was no shade in the tropics.
No base tan.
And it was just awful.
I mean, I've never seen anyone so red.
It was just, like, hideous.
You know how obsessive I used to be about sun cream?
And, of course, now I... Yeah.
Well, I was going to say, sun cream is one of those things we don't do anymore.
But I would have thought... Yeah, but you see, the thing that the anti-sun cream people forget is that...
The no sun cream thing works really well if you obey simple rules like I'm only going to expose myself to the sun.
I'm going to get up early.
You know, I mean, when we were in Columbia, we often got up at half past five with the first light and sort of were in the shade by nine o'clock or nine thirty.
And if you do that and you expose yourself in the evening after say about five, that's really good and you get a lovely base tan and then it's fine.
But if you're in a situation as we were, where you are wearing swimming costumes and you are You're going down a river at midday.
About as exposed as you're going to get.
I would like to challenge any anti-sun cream person to go, yeah, well I've never worn sun... I mean, of course you would.
Either that or you'd wear a sort of rash suit or something.
But we didn't have rash suits with us.
Gotcha.
Okay, well that's not as bad.
I thought one of you was going to be attacked by piranhas through the ring.
No.
Another thing I found, I don't know whether you've got, you've probably got to this stage already.
I've realised that I've got to the stage in life where I am too old to wear a A bucket hat, say.
You know, my sort of raver bucket hat.
You just look stupid.
You look like an old mushroom.
Right.
I've got to the stage where you have to wear a smart hat.
Like a Panama.
Yeah.
I think that's a very positive thing.
It is a positive thing.
It's like wearing tweed, isn't it?
It looks so much better on the gentleman of a certain age.
The only thing is, how do you deal with him on the plane?
Well, if it's a proper Panama, you could roll it up into a tube.
I agree.
But then that means going to Ecuador, doesn't it?
That's where the proper Panamas come from.
Or going to Lox.
Right.
Well how much was the hat you bought in Ecuador?
In Colombia?
I bought a lovely hat in Colombia but it is not one of those ones that you can roll up into a tube but it is very nice.
And you've got it back, no problem.
Anyway, it's a small problem, but, you know, have a hat everywhere you go.
Hats are a funny thing.
Some people can pull them off alright, like me with a beret, and some people just look stupid in them.
But, as you can see up here, hats are very much one of the things.
You're a man of many hats.
I am a man of many hats, it has been said.
So Dick, ask me more about my drumming trip.
Yeah, no, I want to know more.
No, as you know, my favourite cafe in Worcester is Francini's, which is a Colombian cafe, so I've been steeping myself in things Colombian for quite some time.
Constant salsa music is playing there, all the food is of Colombian inspiration, as well as you can when you're buying from an English supplier, and obviously Francini himself, Colombian, and all the staff.
When I told them you were off to Colombia and I was showing my friend Cesar, who is the duty manager there, very animated about you going to Colombia.
They're absolutely passionate about their country.
And they're from the middle area, the mountainous coffee growing area.
But you said you went there as well, didn't you?
That's where I went.
Yeah.
I thought you were up in the northwest.
But I went there as well.
I went all over.
I flew around.
So the coffee growing region, the sort of the center, you fly into a place called Pereira.
And there are various directions you can go in there.
I went to somewhere called Manizales, I think.
And then into the mountains.
I mean, it was good, like somewhere where It was an hour and a half down a dirt track from the nearest town and then transfer to the final destination by horseback.
This is what you were talking about in your sub-stack which was very good which I've sent to Francini to read because I think he should...
Feel the passion that you felt for his country.
I do.
I love Colombia.
The people are absolutely delightful.
Really delightful.
I didn't feel threatened.
I mean, apparently, you know, people say, oh, you must take precautions like don't drive at night and carry some chump change in your pocket if it is to make people go away so they don't hassle you if it, you know, you find yourself in a sticky situation, etc, etc.
But generally, no, I found them absolutely lovely.
And the food's good.
On the coast you get really nice, I wasn't expecting this, coconut rice.
I thought coconut rice was a thing you only got in Thailand and places, but they've got their own version of coconut rice.
They love their carbs, so you'll often get coconut rice with fried plantains with potatoes.
Right.
And they're good potatoes, by the way.
I mean, you know, given that potatoes came from the New World, they know how to do a potato.
The thing they do in Francine's is arepa.
You know, they're cornbread pancakes.
Do you have any of them?
Yeah, yeah.
You get those at breakfast.
Right.
They do very good chorizo.
Right.
And scrambled egg.
They do a good breakfast.
This is what a chap warned, that's not the right word, advised me of on the plane over.
He said, you will encounter fruits that you've never seen before, you've never tasted before.
We have lots of them.
And it's true.
Lulo is one of them.
Lulo is it?
Because they do a lulo smoothie at Francine's, and it's a uniquely Colombian fruit.
It's kind of like a grapefruit.
They do do lots of different fruit juices, including maracuja, which is... By the way, my Spanish has improved.
Right.
Because you know how I was learning Russian?
Yeah.
Didn't go down very well in Colombia.
Well no, there's a story there.
So I switched to learning Spanish because I thought Spanish would be more useful in Colombia than Russian.
So I can now say, yo soy un hombre, which means I'm a man.
Um, and I can, I can, you know, there are words that, you know, uh, like, um, hermanos, which means brothers.
Um, and, and, and words that, the thing about learning Spanish is that there are words in Spanish that you can't guess.
Like Italian, there are loads of words you can work out.
Like, you know, that, you know, you've got a good idea of what birra means.
Even if you'd never learned Italian, you knew what birra means.
And cuantacosta.
Yeah, Contra Costa, exactly.
Whereas Spanish, there are these sort of rogue words like cerveza for beer.
Now there's no way, if you didn't know what beer was in Spanish, you could never guess it was cerveza.
And like abuelo, do you know what abuelo is?
No.
Abuelo is grandfather.
Now you'd never know that.
And do you know what son is?
ijo ijo and and daughter is hija so you'd never guess that so even if you don't learn done latin at school there were the there were these rogue words that that that that creep in anyway so i was learning spanish and it was it was definitely a big help but when we got to the place where i mentioned where you arrived by horseback the only other people staying in the in that we're staying in these tents
um at a place called el nido del condor which which which in case you can't guess what el nido means it means the nest of the condor oh I was getting there.
Because there were condors, yeah.
And the only other people there were Russians.
And I was thinking, damn!
Damn, I should have carried on with my Russian!
So, I was sitting around... One night they had a campfire and I was sitting around there because it got quite cold in the mountains and I was trying to remember what Russian I'd learned that I could try and... Yeah, I could say Privyet, which means hi, and I was trying... It's amazing how when you haven't been practicing it you can't remember.
And all I could remember was...
The Russian for, the hedgehog lives in the park.
And he was very impressed.
Did they understand that?
Yeah, yeah, he did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fantastic.
And then I remembered another, because the man was drinking a glass of wine.
So I said, I turned to him and I said, Yes, I said, Mushina Piyot Vino.
And he looked at me and said, whatever no is in Russian, he said, Mushina Piyot Sok.
And I understood what he was saying.
Sock is juice.
He was drinking out of a wine glass, but it wasn't wine.
Right.
Okay.
So I understood.
You had a conversation in Russian.
And I think, you know, in his Russian way, he was quite pleased.
You know what our father would be telling us now?
Why didn't you hit him with u-pa-pa-ba-la-sa-ba-ka?
Yeah, exactly.
He would.
But luckily, father is not listening.
Well, he probably is.
He probably is listening.
Hi, Pa.
But he's not capable of interrupting the podcast because it will be done and dusted by the time.
I just want to think of other interesting things I can tell you about Colombia.
Tell me about the Colombian coffee drunk in Colombia.
Ah!
I'm glad you asked me that.
Well, it's an obvious question.
I mean, how good was the coffee, fresh from the source?
So here's the thing.
The best coffee I had was probably the coffee I had on Pedro's farm in the middle of the mountains where you... Pedro took me out riding by the way.
Right.
Because I so enjoyed the ride down and up.
You did a little video of that.
I saw you were clearly enjoying yourself.
We went down about 1,000 feet and then up 1,000 feet.
That was how big the... from the valley top to the valley bottom and up again.
And the tracks were treacherous.
The sort of thing you'd never take an English horse on.
But these horses were sure-footed.
I mean, everyone notes this when they've been on these horses.
They're amazed by how sure-footed they are.
And if you didn't trust the horse, you would be absolutely shitting yourself.
Because... I mean, even on foot, it would be treacherous enough.
You don't know how these horses can do it, but they do it.
So, I'll come back to the coffee in a moment.
So, Pedro...
And I went out for a ride and I tried my rudimentary Spanish on him because he couldn't speak any English.
Pedro was great.
And he kept looking back and sort of smiling at me and sort of approving of my riding technique, you know, that I knew what I was doing.
And as we got, as we went on the Homewood leg, we saw these cows being milked.
Because even though the slopes were incredibly steep, they somehow had these cows, and we were in the dairy region of Colombia, and beautiful, healthy-looking cows, not sort of the emaciated things like you often see in Costa Rica, that the cows look quite emaciated there, but these were really healthy cows.
And it was milking time.
And there was a storm at the time so I took shelter with the guy milking his cow and I said, can I have some of your fresh milk?
Because somebody had told me once, before I became awake, they said if you want to avoid getting tummy trouble In any new country, like when you're going to India or Thailand or whatever, the first thing you should do is drink some milk from a local cow.
Some raw milk from a local cow.
That will have all the antibodies you need to protect you from all the bugs going around.
I thought this would be good.
So I had a glass of this foaming milk straight from the cows udder and it was warm and I gagged slightly But it was it was you know, it was nice.
It was it was you know tasted like milk supposed to so I got home and That night I had the worst shits I have had in Like just just Since I probably was in Africa on my gap year, it was that bad.
It was just, just liquid, you know.
And often, you know, you get off the loo and you stumble back into bed and you're halfway back to bed and you realize you've got to go back to the loo again.
And it went on all through the night.
And I normally sleep with very thin covering.
I don't like being hot at night.
And I had an eye down, a blanket, another blanket, another blanket, another blanket.
I had my thermals on and I was, you know, I was still shivering.
It was just like hell.
And all the next day was a complete write-off.
I just couldn't do anything.
Um, and so I think my mistake was maybe drinking too much of the milk.
I think if you had a kind of a mithridatum milk, you know, just the sort of sort of enough of the bugs just to get your gut used to it.
Anyway, Pedro's Farm.
Pedro.
Part of the deal for this expensive excursion to Pedro's farm was, because you know, you pay for everything, you get to try some traditionally made Colombian coffee.
And I didn't see how the coffee was made, but it took quite a long time to make it.
And it was served black with sugar.
And it was a very nice cup of coffee, is all I can tell you.
I think it's probably steeped, it's probably Strained through a muslin cloth or some traditional rusting.
Did it have spices in it?
No, it wasn't like sort of... Because Francini does what he calls a Columbian pharma and it's got a kind of a syrup that he makes himself as part of it and you have it as part filter coffee and then it goes in and you have a cinnamon stick to stir it and it's got cloves and various spices in it along with a syrup.
So it's fairly sweet but you drink it black or with lime and he says that is the closest that we have over here to the way the Colombians drink it.
I'm gonna have to, well, probably, maybe there were some spices in it.
I didn't notice, to be honest.
I was just more thinking about, I needed something to go with my fag.
Right.
By the way, I'm convinced, I won't dwell on this, but I think it's very important to have a couple of cigarettes a day.
I'm increasingly convinced that tobacco is important.
Do you hear my podcast with What's Her Face?
About how it combats EMF.
No, I haven't gone on to that one yet.
Not you're unbelievable, but no, it probably does combat them as well.
I don't know.
Anyway, yeah, the coffee.
What I found was that I was drinking coffee, not as we do in England, in the form of a flat white.
But sort of black and piss weak.
And here's the thing I've found recently.
I don't know whether I've become hypersensitive or what, but I found that the double shot of a flat white is actually too much for me.
I just end up being wired and in a not nice way.
Just sort of, it's like too much of a hit.
It's like, you know, it's like doing a line of coke instead of just chewing a coca leaf, you know, rather than having a kind of pleasant sort of up, it's just like, like that.
And I was thinking that maybe Because, you know, there were questions about whether coffee is good for us or whether it's bad for us, or whether the line that coffee is bad for us is itself a psyop from the enemy designed to take away from us the thing that is good for us, you know, the endless hall of mirrors that comes from being awake.
But I quite enjoyed the way that one could have a cup and feel gently lifted and then have another cup later on without worrying about whether you're going to sleep.
Kind of like micro-dosing.
Micro-dosing mushrooms.
Exactly.
I think this is kind of the way that I'm going.
It's kind of almost where I am with alcohol.
I've never been a big drinker, but I think because I've never been a big drinker, I can enjoy mid-week a couple of pints of sub-5% ale, but the wife has gone completely off booze lately.
At any amount, just ruins her night and she can't sleep.
It's odd.
It might come partly with age, it might come partly with getting healthier and your body being more sensitive to things.
But either way, being more aware of the things that have an effect on you and being able to control it, I think is part of the waking up process, isn't it?
I've gone where your wife is, pretty much.
I virtually cannot drink booze now.
I can drink cocktails for some reason.
I like a cocktail.
But generally, I can't even drink a pint of beer anymore.
Well, you never really could.
You were always a bit of a big girl's blouse.
I can even less now.
I can't remember who was the Russian lady I did the podcast with.
She was very down on beer.
Yeah, I remember that one.
One is suggestible.
But she said it's like drinking yeast and sugar in a pint of everything that does you bad.
It's a shame because I think drinking is a sociable thing.
Of course, the only other time I can drink is when I hunt.
Right, yeah.
And that's a hip flask of... What do you drink then?
Sort of, um... Slow gin.
Slow gin.
Or, um... Or damson gin.
Right.
Damson.
Damson for preference.
Hey, on a completely, um... non-segue thing, guess what I'm wearing under this jumper?
I like this, yes.
I like where it's going.
Do you know what?
Do you know what, Dick?
I was going to talk to you about this.
Yeah?
I was.
Because I have discovered this... Okay, I'll give you the good news first.
Right.
I was reading through Substack and I found this guy who did the definitive Five part series on why dinosaurs are not real.
Okay.
And he goes through the story step by step.
So the first episode.
He tells the story of when dinosaurs were first discovered.
Do you know when they were first discovered?
About 1850 or something like that, wasn't it?
No, earlier than that, actually.
It was in the 1790s, and it was in Paris, I think.
And the story goes that they were mining for gypsum, I think.
And that while mining for gypsum, they found these mysterious bones, many bones, many bones that had never been seen before.
And they knew that these bones had never been seen before because they took them to this expert.
And this expert, who happened to be a member, a French member of the Royal Society.
Clue.
Right.
This Frenchman, you know, he was quite high up in the French regime, the sort of scientific regime, the court regime, etc, etc.
This guy was an expert at telling, by looking at a bone, what kind of animal it came from.
And this man declared that these bones had never been seen before.
They were a new kind of bone, a special kind of bone.
And, um, and, and, and that those were the first, the first dinosaurs.
And, and then, then as you, you sort of rightly suggest that the dinosaur craze really took off in the, in the 19th century.
And all the dinosaur discoveries were made by these two men, one of whom was an heir of the Kellogg's, I think it was, dynasty, and another one who was similarly rich, whose uncle had had a town named after him.
And between them, these two rich kids basically found all the dinosaur... I was watching something on Rumble that they were rival dinosaur hunters and they kept on going out hunting for dinosaurs and finding them regularly.
Like, you know, you don't just stumble across them, you go out looking for them and you will find them if you look for them.
And they kept on finding ever crazier dinosaurs.
And of course we haven't got access to any of these bones, have we?
Because any real dinosaur bones, they're radioactive, you know.
They've got to be stored really carefully by the authorities.
So normal people aren't allowed dinosaur bones.
They're radioactive and they're very fragile.
So fragile that nobody can look at them.
Because that could destroy them.
If you look at them too hard, they'll just crumble.
It's like Schrodinger's dinosaur bones.
With a piece of dinosaur bone no bigger than this, you can construct an entire T-Rex, including his jaw and his teeth, his eye sockets and his long tail, just by that.
It's amazing.
That's right, that's another one of the things he deals with.
So he then goes, I'll give you the email, the sub-stack, the name of this guy in a moment, I'll have to look it up.
But he goes through the different dinosaur species that we know of and Talks about how they were named and discovered and stuff.
And you remember the, I think it's called the Ankylosaurus, which has got a sort of, sort of scaly back.
Um, and yeah, I mean, I mean, it's a bit like when Homer Simpson draws a car.
Yeah.
They could do anything with these things.
And the Ankylosaurus, it turns out was based on a single tooth.
Oh, right.
It's a bit like the stars, isn't it?
Where you can get the Great Bear from about three stars and draw a bear around it.
Obviously it's a bear.
Look at the way the three stars are arranged.
The best one is the pterodactyl.
I had thought that of all the dinosaurs, the pterodactyl was probably going to be the one that was the most likely to have lived because it's like a bird and it's like a, you know, is it a bird or a plane or is it a...
Pterodactyl.
It turns out that the pterodactyl was constructed from a copper engraving that somebody had made of these bones of what this creature might have looked like and then they constructed this creature based on an artist's impression on a copper engraving.
Right.
And if you look at the photograph of the pterodactyl skulls, it's absolutely remarkable.
pterodactyl was real.
And if you look at the photograph of the pterodactyl skulls, it's absolutely remarkable.
If you weren't an expert, you would imagine that they were crocodile skulls because they look exactly like that.
But idiot!
You need to be a paleontologist.
You need to be Ross.
Ross from Friends would know instantly.
Can you do a Ross from Friends impersonation?
Probably not, but he could tell us whether.
On this thing I saw on Rumble, there was a recanting paleontologist who was absolutely furious that he'd done a degree in paleontology.
Towards the end of it, he was just like, what have I just gone into debt to fund?
It was three years of complete bollocks and lies.
Now, you'd have thought there'd be more of them, wouldn't you?
But I suppose once you've invested all that money in it, the last thing you want to do is realise you've got a degree in windsurfing or something.
You know, it's just... But windsurfing's useful.
You can become a windsurfing instructor.
Well, at least windsurfers are real.
Yeah.
They are!
They do actually exist.
They do exist.
They do.
But yeah, so recanting paleontologists.
You've got to get someone on the podcast.
I've got to get... I want somebody on.
So this guy who's substack I want to try and find for you.
Yeah.
Would you be able to put it at the end of this thing when it goes up?
I'll put it at the end because I don't think I can look at the script.
And also put on where people can buy my t-shirt because I've got them in two colours dark green and dark blue and it's dellingpolestudio.com yeah?
Easy to remember.
I have to say of all your t-shirts I mean I think some of your t-shirts are clever but But this is both clever and wearable, I think.
That's what's great about it.
Alright.
It's a really... You know what I mean?
Yes, I think they're all clever and wearable.
Well, yeah, but the one with the, um, the, the thing, the computery square... Yeah.
What?
The QR code.
The barcode.
That says resist.
Yeah.
It's clever, but it's not as attractive as your dinosaur, basically, is what I'm saying.
No, but that, that one sold, that's the only one that sold so well I've had to get reprinted.
Really?
Yeah, Mr Fashion.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I do, okay, I'm not dissing your other t-shirts, I'm just saying that I really love your dinosaur t-shirt.
Okay, good, well I hope it sells well.
It wasn't selling well recently and I went on to my website only to find I'd completely destroyed my website by trying to update it and it wasn't working.
So, that typical Delingpole business sense.
I've sorted that out now.
I would expect you to know better than that.
I mean, there's no way I would ever have dabbled in the tech of my... I mean, can you imagine me even having a site of merchandises?
Not unless it was run by me.
No, exactly.
Which is effectively what my t-shirts are.
They're meant to be Deling Pod t-shirts.
But, you know, on my psalm mug it's got Deling Pod on it.
So, you know, they're available on the site as well.
While we're crassly promoting our Dottie product, will your t-shirts be available at my surprise event?
I'm looking forward to having my merch stall out at your surprise event, and it's just about the only thing that will get me down to that hellhole that is London.
Do you know what's particularly delicious about it?
Tell.
So the date, is it the 28th of June?
is it the 28th of June?
2010.
Yes, I think it is.
Yes.
Um, Friday.
So the reason it's happening is that then the reason I can do it then is that is the Glastonbury weekend.
And I was, boy, boy said to me, dad, please, can you review Glastonbury this year?
Because, you know, we don't want to get you off the ticket list.
and, and, and, you know, I want to go to Glastonbury.
And so I applied for tickets.
Because I've been writing about Glastonbury since 1990, can you believe?
And there was one point where... And indeed credited with saving the festival by Michael Leavis himself.
Michael Leavis himself has told me on several occasions that it was my coverage which helped save the festival, just because I'd given it positive reviews in the Telegraph, which was the paper read by all the people on the local council Who's job it was to license the festival?
He said that you know, I I reach parts that other other reviewers gave it establishment credibility So I thought I was I was well in with with with glass to me people even though we've got certain ideological differences But this year they said oh, yeah, we could only give you one ticket.
Well, I I'm buggered if I'm going to go to Glastonbury on my own without a little playmate.
So I just, you know... So I'm not going to Glastonbury this year.
I'm doing my... doing my... this gig instead, which will be... With your own tribe?
With... so it's my biggest venue ever.
A thousand seater, I think.
Where is it?
Somewhere in London.
It's not the place I did it last time.
Because the place I did it last time was quite expensive.
That was £1,000, wasn't it?
Yeah, or £900, I think.
But the thing is, when you've got a massive capital outlay before you've sold a single ticket, it's quite worrying.
Whereas this time, you know, it's less nerve-wracking.
I think there seems to be quite a buzz about it.
I think we will sell out.
Not least because I think Mike Yeadon doesn't often do these things and I think people are interested.
He's really interesting in that he's one of the very few big pharma executives who've called out the scam.
And him and Sasha Latipovna, who's on my recent podcast.
But they're among the very few.
Most of them have just sort of taken the money and run.
And Mike was the guy who I think people credit with having stopped them getting the death jab.
He saved quite a few lives, potentially.
Unlike the death jab.
I think they're grateful to him for that.
Yeah.
And his journey has been similar to mine.
And he's been consistent as well, hasn't he?
He's remained steadfast throughout it all.
So many of the heroes of the early anti-vax, anti-pandemic sort of movement have fallen by the wayside one way or another.
But yeah, he's remained true.
And he is a fellow Christian as well.
He is.
Anyway, I'm sure it'll be good.
I just wanted to talk to you, Dick, about a thing that's really bothering me.
And it is partly to do with the chemtrail skies.
We finally got round to that.
I'd forgotten we were going to do that.
Well, I thought we sort of covered it and then we sort of veered away and then we sort of came at it.
We acknowledged it.
It's really, it's really, really getting me down.
It's getting me down for a number of reasons.
I mentioned one of them, which is that we had a choice whether or not to take the death jab.
We have no choice.
There is no escape from this relentless, with this relentless grimness, this lack of sun.
I mean, have you tried, have you tried the vinegar blue skies yet?
No.
If you, if you boil White spirit vinegar.
It penetrates the cloud and creates a blue patch over your house, apparently.
I don't know about this.
No.
I would like people to do an experiment.
I think there are places you can go where you can look it up.
There's a Telegram channel called, I think, Vinegar Blue Skies.
And they tell you the techniques.
It seems to be not too complicated.
I mean, something that even I could do at a push.
And there are also these other machines, these... Do you know about William Reich?
And his... Orgone.
Orgone Theories.
I mean, like the Kate Bush album.
Cloud Bursting.
I don't know that.
Orgonon and stuff.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
There are these devices, I think, cloud bursting devices, which people make, where you can sort of saturate the sky with orgone and it penetrates whatever shit they're spraying this with.
I really don't know what it is.
I mean, some people say it's barium and aluminium, which is whose chemical formula joined together make the word bar.
Right.
So maybe it, but I think there's, like the other day, I was, I've been feeling really quite rotten and I'm sure some of it is to do with what they're spraying us with.
We've had terrible pollution.
I mean, air quality lately has been particularly bad in this most recent storm and that mad storm they had down over London the other day.
That got a lot of people feeling very ill.
Everyone, even the normies, were saying this is not like a normal storm.
And yet the normies are still not waking up.
I mean, look, I talk about this to members of my family and they just kind of think, oh well, summer will be here soon and it'll all go away.
They haven't It has not computed.
And I don't see how it can't compute, but it seems to be the case.
They fall over themselves to make up excuses for the evil.
You get not just a week of cloud like you've never seen before, but three or four months of cloud like you've never seen before.
Apparently there have only been three 24-hour periods this year without rain.
Yeah.
Tells you all there is to know, doesn't it?
They'll come up with all sorts of rationalizations for why this is.
They'll say, yeah, but it does rain in May, or often, you know, it takes a long time before, you know, oh, our last frost we had here was in early June.
It's like they're trying to explain to themselves why it's all okay.
And it's the same with the chemtrail skies.
Instead of going, In our childhood, there was never a time when people played noughts and crosses with the sky.
And you never had them doing these kind of occult X symbols in the sky.
And there's no way that... Instead of going, this has never happened before, they just look at it and they don't even see it, it seems to me.
Anyway, do you know where I think this is all going?
Can I run my depressing theory by you?
Although our viewers will probably see this normally, I've just lost you at the moment, and you've gone heavily pixelated, and I've lost your voice, so... Oh, well, that's no good.
Can you hear me now?
No, you're back again.
Yep, yep, yep.
Good.
You're back in the room.
Can I run my depressing theory about you?
Go on, then.
Okay.
So, do you remember how, in the first weeks of lockdown, you would get Things, reports in the newspapers of things like, the lagoons of Venice are clean for the first time in 3,000 years.
Look at the crystal clear water of the Venetian canals, now there are no tourists.
And there'll be stories about how... In lockdown, everyone looked up and it was lovely weather.
It was the kind of, you know, if you had a... From March onwards.
Yeah.
It was a lovely, it was a lovely time to be locked down.
And in fact, it was almost better than, Better than not lockdown.
And a lot of people were seduced by this, the idea that, yeah, I can work from home if I even have to work, and the weather's nice and stuff.
So it seems to me that given that all these things are planned in advance, what they were doing was sowing the seeds for what's happened since.
So people will associate that period with, OK, you couldn't travel, so there was no air traffic, and yet the skies were clear and it was a wonderful summer.
And then for the last year, they've really ramped up the chemtrailing.
I mean, I think the chemtrailing's been going on for a long, long time, but they've really ramped it up.
In a way, making it so obvious that even a section of the normie populace has started to notice, because I think that's deliberate as well.
They've been doing it like, look at us now, we're chemtrailing your skies, you know, look at it.
How obvious can we make it for you?
And even normies have started to notice that these trails coming out of aeroplanes seem to be doing weird things whereby they go from these straight, cocaine-like lines and they sort of broaden out and they become cloud.
It's like they're showing you what they're doing.
But, here's the thing.
The norm will not go so far as to imagine that these are being done by dedicated planes whose job it is to spray the skies.
Which people have tracked down.
Yeah.
They think it's coming out of commercial planes.
Yeah.
And they will think when they are told, at the next stage of the revelation, what's going to happen next is that the papers are suddenly going to, new research is going to reveal that it has been discovered, scientists have found, that the effects of the trails that come out of airplanes, of commercial aircraft, Are much, much more, having a much bigger impact on the environment than was previously understood.
And in fact, these are the cause of all this terrible weather we've been having recently.
And the inevitable crop failures that will follow.
The crop failures and stuff.
So, so Normies have been primed to think first, no blue skies, no airplanes.
Second, trails in the skies, really bad weather.
So the next phase of the plan is going to be We must ban commercial aircraft because scientists have discovered, belatedly, that their contrails, because they're not chemtrails, their contrails, have this weird effect on the environment, which is... So, what do you want, people?
Do you want to eat?
And do you want some sun?
Or do you want your holidays?
You can't have both anymore.
So we've made the decision for you.
We think on balance you'd rather not starve and you'd rather have some sun and you accept you're going to take the hit.
You're not going to have the holidays anymore.
It's führer-ehr-ehrsicherheit.
It's like, for your security, we're doing it for you.
It's very plausible.
Horribly plausible.
And I think it's going to start sometime after June the 6th because...
Because of that Airbnb thing.
Latipa Pivna said, yeah, on her substack, that Airbnb have changed their terms and conditions in readiness for this.
So, you know, I mean, I don't normally make predictions, but I think it helps if you can predict something like this because it shows the norm is that once you know it, it becomes quite obvious what the direction travel is.
Well, we've...
Planning on going to Iceland in September, so I hope it doesn't affect that.
I hope it doesn't.
By the way, was it you or me who farted in the... people heard a fart in the last podcast we did?
Oh, I wouldn't have consciously farted in a podcast.
I think it might have been me.
I'm sure there's ways of telling.
Your screen has a purple line around it when you're talking and mine has a purple line around mine.
Maybe there was a purple line around someone's face while they farted.
Does that work?
I doubt it.
I don't think it works when people watch it.
No, I don't.
interesting theory I don't um how how's my what how's your psalm learning or What number are you on?
I've nailed 121 Coverdale version.
I'm firmly moving over to Coverdale as the overriding option over King James version but I'm yeah I'm okay with the four and I don't want to take on another one until I'm completely word-for-word.
I mean what's the most common The common words that you transpose, will and shall.
Will and shall.
Getting your wills and shalls confused is a bit frustrating.
It's an endless problem, Dick.
It never goes.
The meaning isn't changed dramatically, is it, from a will to a shall?
But yeah, I'm giving consideration to what my next psalm will be.
Funnily enough, I've got a pub, let's call it a date, with a vicar this evening who got in touch with me.
Oh yeah?
With that one?
Yeah, that's this evening.
So I'm going to go up to the Dragon in Worcester and have a pint with him and talk, I don't know, talk about whatever he wants to talk about.
It might be the C of E reaching out saying, I hear you've got a group of rebel Christians, what can we do to help you?
It might be that he's just curious about what I'm up to, maybe he likes the podcast, who knows?
But either way, I'm curious and I'm not going to turn down an opportunity to talk to clergy.
What if he wants to burn you at the stake for being a heretic?
Well, that's good as well.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
You know, it'll be great for the group.
It'll be great for Thursday Circle if they want to burn us.
Because, you know, the more you burn Christians, the more Christians you get.
That's true.
And also, I think pretty much you get to be one of the saints.
Yeah.
And, with any luck, God protects you while you're burning.
In fact, I've just read a bit in Isaiah, I think 43?
God talks about you will not feel the flames as you burn, neither will you set fire, that sort of thing.
So I'm thinking, yeah, there's a precedent for this.
That is made explicit also in the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, isn't it?
Yeah.
In the fiery furnace.
Yeah.
So there is a precedent for it.
Yeah.
Oh, and I'm really enjoying Michael S. Heiser.
Oh, how good is it?
I didn't want to let you finish it before I started it, so me and the Thursday Circle guys are all on to that one and we're reading it and loving it.
I haven't finished it yet.
My only disappointment so far is that he seems to be suggesting that the The seed of the serpent and not the literal offspring of the fallen angels.
Because his theory is that angels can't reproduce.
Okay.
He thinks it's metaphorical.
That's interesting because everything else he interprets isn't metaphorical.
I think he's ducking out.
I think that they are the seed of the fallen angels.
I wonder whether people can... I mean, he's pretty based, Heizer.
Yeah.
It's a shame that he's no longer with us.
It is.
So we can thrash it out with him.
But I still... He's got a lot of stuff available online now.
There's a lot of YouTube stuff he's done and, you know, some of it just little five-minute talks and things like that.
So there's a lot of him on the net.
Because if the... What is the explanation for the Giants otherwise?
I think the giants are the seed of the serpent.
Well they could be a previous creation.
No, I don't think that.
I don't buy into... Do you know what?
I think cavemen are a psyop.
Yeah, I think so.
I think the Stone Age is a psy-op.
I think we were created as a civilised species.
I don't think there was any monkey business.
Yeah, and I do think... No, no, definitely not.
Are you with me on... I mean, Adam and Eve were the first... Yeah, I'm a younger creationist, yeah.
In fact, creationism is my favourite rabbit hole by far.
And...
To the point at which I'm embarrassed to ever have believed otherwise, a bit like moon landings, but it's... Yeah, it's a really good one, and it's a great one that you can talk to normies about, because you can come across as a complete nutcase.
If you're a Young Earth creationist, you're about as bad as it gets as far as loopiness is concerned.
I was quite naughty today.
We've got a family, one of Thorne's cousins staying and he's got these 12 year old daughters.
So I took them riding this morning and guess what I spent the car journey doing?
You were hitting them with creationism.
I said, you know girls, I'm really not sure that dinosaurs existed.
And I took them through my reasons for thinking that dinosaurs existed.
And then I moved on to, and I said, and what is the other thing you often see on children's pyjamas?
And they're French, these girls.
And they said, space.
And I said, exactly, space.
Then I went through the reasons why.
They came up with the answer space, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They know.
I find children of that age very... They're open-minded.
It's only later on that people become... Their brains are quite plastic, I think.
They're quite malleable.
They're still open to ideas.
Well, you know, on the other hand, we've got dragons.
And potentially unicorns.
Yes.
So, you know, a lot of fellow dinosaur deniers are fully on board with dragons once existed.
So... Yeah, yeah.
I don't know where unicorns fit into the equation.
Do you think unicorns were rhinoceroses?
The unicorns mentioned in the Bible?
I don't know.
I mean, I'd like to think that we... I would like to have ridden a unicorn.
Yeah?
Obviously not on its spike, Dick.
That's what you were about to say.
I wasn't... I wasn't thinking of that.
Well, come on, who rides a horse by sitting on its head, for goodness sake?
It would be... it would be quite good though, wouldn't it?
To ride a horse with a big spike on its... Into battle.
A bit cooler.
Yeah.
Riding it into battle.
Can you imagine how... Yeah.
How stand out you would be on that battlefield?
It would.
Which one is he?
He's the guy on the unicorn.
The battle unicorn.
Well, I don't know what their build was.
Were they built like thoroughbreds or were they built like... If only someone had dug up the bones of one.
There's a word for warhorses.
I think it's destria.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Destria.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like a kind of shire horse sort of thing.
You know, just massive bones, sort of heavily armoured.
And it's got to be big to carry a fully armoured knight anyway, hasn't it?
By the way, apropos of the psalms, I'm currently learning Psalm 84, because Alex Thompson gave me a list of what he considered to be the top five psalms.
Right, 84.
Is it a long one or a short one?
Short one.
It's the one that starts, O how amiable are thy dwellings, thou Lord of hosts.
And my soul hath a desire and longing to enter into the courts of the Lord.
My heart and my flesh rejoice in the living God.
Yea, the sparrow hath found her an house, and the swallow a nest where she may lay her young.
I like Anne House.
I like it when they do that, Anne House.
What is it in Latin for the first word?
Because they're all named after the first line, aren't they?
Yes, I can't remember.
I can't remember.
But it has the line from strength to strength.
They will go, or is it shall, no it is, they will go from strength to strength.
Right, that's where we get that phrase.
So many of our phrases come from the book of Psalms.
I know, every time I come across one in my Bible reading I do a double take and I think, well, that must be where we get that.
Yeah, it's good.
It does keep delivering.
So, any other business?
Buy my t-shirts.
Buy tickets to James and Yadin.
Support your Substack and all your other little Pay James things.
Buy me a coffee type things.
Have I missed anything out?
No.
No.
I'm trying to get my revised edition of Watermelons.
Right.
Ready in time for the Eden event so I can sell copies there.
That'll be exciting.
And I realised, although I've kept the central part of the book pretty much as is, I've cut out some of the things I violently disagree with now, but generally I've left it pretty much as is.
But I've topped and tailed it with a couple of chapters explaining, A, what I was missing from the From the first book and be where I went wrong.
You know, I swallowed some lines that I actually, for example, I was doing this podcast the other day with this woman who was a professional protester against war and stuff, but also she'd gone to the anti-fracking camp in Balcombe.
And I said to her, well, do you know what?
That's one area where you and I would have disagreed, or certainly a while back.
Perhaps I'm open to...
Changing my thinking about fracking, but I thought fracking was a good thing.
What's your objection to it?
And she said, well, the thing about fracking is that her son, I think, worked on the oil rigs, and she said there was a very high incidence of cancer on the oil rigs.
And she said she thinks it's because the drill bits they use are radioactive.
And she said that this was certainly the case with the drill bits they use for fracking and not only do they use it vertically but also horizontally and that this pollutes the water table.
And she said that one of her irritations at the anti-fracking camp was that there were people like her who Had nothing to do with the global warming agenda.
Didn't believe any of their eco-nonsense.
And what she found is that the cause of the people who were just concerned about a specific thing about fracking were they were being swamped by these sort of professional anti-climate change activists who wanted to hijack the whole movement.
Which I thought was interesting.
But what I also thought was interesting was how many of my assumptions about things like The virtue of the fossil fuel industry, or the relative virtue of the fossil industry, and of the benefits of things like genetically modified food, which I believe technology will save us.
We shouldn't reject technology.
I'm wondering whether I was right or whether actually I was just swallowing yet another of the big lies we're told about the world.
You know, there are lies told for different people, so there are lies told for right-wing people and lies told for left-wing people.
But Israel still springs to mind.
Exactly, exactly.
And it's the same thing, isn't it?
We can't talk about that ever again because it's illegal.
We're thrown into the Long-term pro-Palestine protesters, and yet we've come at it from a completely different angle.
But we're essentially on their side, but for completely different reasons.
And it's an odd one, you know, it's the old strange bedfellows thing, isn't it?
So you might find yourself on an anti-fracking march, but...
Diametrically opposed in every other way to all the people on that march.
But yeah, interesting times.
It means that you're not as in the bubble as some might suggest you are.
That you're quite happy to have your mind changed.
That's healthy.
The only thing I care about, Dick, is the truth.
I'm the same with you.
Because if that's your guiding star, I mean, you're not going to get corrupted, are you?
No.
Or at least not deliberately.
You're not going to allow yourself to be corrupted, because if the truth is the thing you care about most, then things like money or sex or drugs or whatever else they want to throw in your way to try and lead you is not going to be as tempting.
There's nothing so satisfying as the truth.
No.
Amen, brother.
On that sententious note... Right, I'm going to go and do my thing and go out and drink with Vickers.
So... I'm going to have a cup of tea.
Yeah, I think I might have another one.
Have you had one already?
Well I was slurping away at one earlier on in case you didn't notice.
You see, I had one at 3.30 and it's now 4... We started at 3.30.
Oh no, I didn't have one at 3.30.
I had one at 3... at 3... about 3.
Right.
And it's now 4.51.
We started at 3.30.
Oh, no, I didn't have one at 3.30.
I had one at 3.00. At 3.00. About 3.00.
Right.
And it's now 4.51.
It's like...
You're back to another.
Am I?
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One cup of tea is never enough and... Two is too many.
Two is one too many.
Two is one too many, yeah.
That's it.
Oh well.
Um, alright.
Well, um, I will, um... When am I seeing you next?
Dunno.
We'll work something out.
Okay.
Good.
Bye bye brother!
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