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Go and subscribe to the podcast, Um, you know you're meant to look at the camera when you record these things.
It's impossible.
I'm doing it now, so the viewer... No.
It's not good, is it?
I think sod the viewer.
That's your motto.
The Deling Post.
Sod the viewer.
Well, you know Dick, I have to do this all the time.
Viewers don't have to do this all the time.
It's really hard staring at the sincerely, at the In my case, at the green light on top of my... Yeah, no, same with me.
I mean quite obviously I'm looking at the picture of you, which for me is there.
And that's where the camera is.
It's an odd thing, but I've noticed this more and more because I've been doing other people's podcasts.
I've been seeing other people.
I did Hearts of Oak the other day, and I know you've been on that a couple of times.
Does he look at the cameras?
I don't know, but I did one.
I think that was with Darren Denslow, and I had instructions from his producer.
And how close to sit to the camera.
Please look at the camera, not the interviewer.
And it was all a bit sort of... It actually gets a bit tiresome when you get on the pro level.
Which makes your show pleasantly untrigonometry-like.
I've certainly found with the professional shows that A, they want you to turn up kind of 15 minutes before.
15?!
You don't even turn up 15 minutes before a flight, do you?
No, no, exactly.
This is why it's such an ordeal for me.
But I did one with ADHT, for example.
ADHTV, I think it is, Australian thing.
And anything with Australia, you get somebody, yeah, James, can you just move to the left, to the right?
Oh no, up a bit.
No, bring your camera down.
And you think, oh no, just like, just, you know, it doesn't matter.
Just do it.
It doesn't matter, man.
You wait for ten minutes in when I've got to get a chicken out of the oven, or let the dog out, or feed the cat.
Yeah, exactly.
Or go for a fag, as I did with Bob.
Go for a fag.
I only watched the Bob one today, so that's very fresh in my mind.
And I could feel your... I know exactly where you're coming from.
Bob induces the... I'm really relaxing your company.
What could be nicer now than a fag?
And even though I no longer smoke, it made me want to go and have a fag.
And you never even... Well, you did have one in the end, didn't you?
But you did it off set.
I did it off set and didn't have... I mean, I was going to be very naughty.
I was going to have it actually in the spare bedroom where my office is sometimes.
And I would have been in such trouble.
And it was good to see that Bob is under similar... You can see the face he pulled.
It's sort of like, I won't get away with that.
Yeah.
Wife fear.
Every man has it.
Bob fears nothing but his wife.
Yeah.
And that's a sensible thing to be afraid of.
They're bloody terrifying.
Yeah.
There's nothing scarier than a wife.
Especially the passive ones.
Sorry?
Especially the passive ones where they never actually get pissed off but you're terrified of the day that they do.
I mean you know how placid my missus is and she, but you know all she needs to do is frown slightly and for another man's wife that would be the equivalent of being hit across the head with a frying pan.
I don't, I think you're, you're, look, I love, I love your wife.
I don't think you're over, I think you're slightly overselling.
Some wives do it through aggression.
Some wives do it through passive aggression.
It's, it's all, it's all the same thing.
You know, we're all in the, it's only the depth that varies from day to day.
Yeah.
It's not like there is a perfect wife out there.
They're just not, they're just like, they're sent to try us.
Yeah.
Even ones that haven't had ponies when they were little girls.
We are basically naughty ponies that need telling off.
That's the deal.
Yeah, that's true.
We know better than the dogs.
Can I tell you about my scary hunting experience?
Did it happen today?
No, no, no, it didn't.
Hunting is really scary, but this was different.
So what happened was my horse went lame.
It turned out to be a twisted shoe because the ground was quite sticky.
And luckily there were some people from the stables that harmed me my hirelings.
And they said, well, we can do a swap with another horse.
And one of us will give you your horse and we'll take our horse and we'll take the lame one.
So I was given this new horse that I'd never ridden before.
And it was another thoroughbred-y type thing.
So quite, you know, nervy and swift.
But before I could change horses, you've got to do stuff like you've got to adjust the stirrups.
Because it was being ridden by this girl who was much smaller than me, which is extraordinary.
There are people out there who are smaller than me.
And so her stirrups were like sort of jockey height for me.
And also, more importantly, I had to put my drinking flask on.
I had to unstrap it from my horse, which means lifting up that thing that keeps the saddle on.
I've forgotten what it's called.
It's all complicated.
Anyway, by the time I'd done all this stuff, I chased after the field, the other horses, and I went down this track and they just disappeared.
And I found myself on my own, in the middle of nowhere, with this horse I'd never ridden before, that I hadn't adjusted the stirrups properly, and it was going bonkers.
It was going... Because it wanted to be with its mates.
Because the problem with horses...
It's that they're herd animals.
What they really want to do is be with other horses, which is why they like hunting more than anything.
It's just lads outing, so they can just go be horses together in a massive herd.
And I had half an hour of pure hell.
Half an hour.
Just looking around, trying to use my skilled countryman's eyes.
I mean, had I thought about it, I would have been looking out for horse tracks.
I didn't even think of that.
But I didn't know where to go.
There were these gates I had to go through.
And, you know, do you get off the horse or do you have to?
And then it got worse.
Then I got to this field where this dog started barking at us and the horse started going madder.
And eventually I decided to turn around and ask this farmer-looking chap whether he'd seen the hunt.
And I said, can you hold my horse while I put my stirrup back on?
Because one of the stirrups had come off going through a gate.
It was all traumatic because the horse was going mad.
And he held the horse, and the horse reared up, and then he let go of the horse, and I said, you're not good with horses, are you?
And he said, no, I don't like them at all.
Clearly revealing himself as not a farmer!
No, well, exactly.
So then he said that they went that way, and so I... anyway.
Long story short, I eventually caught up with the field and it was such a massive relief.
In fact, I caught up with the field and some antis in their black balaclavas.
But I mean, you forget about these things.
You get scared about the hedges and stuff and all the jumps and all that stuff but you forget that actually even worse than doing the scary stuff with the hunt is being left alone with a horse which is nappy.
Nappy means they want to be with other horses.
And a lot of horses are nappy.
Anyway, that's my hunting story.
No, that must be half an hour of hell.
That's horrible.
Made up for by the relief of being welcomed back into the herd.
Well, you just, you get reminded about things like what horses are and what they like to do and what they don't like to do and they soon let you know what they don't like to do which is being on their own in a field in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, unknown horse as well.
Anyway, you were telling me about your, the fact that, because it's Friday, you've been Missing breakfast or intermittent fasting.
I think calling it fasting is probably in a lot of people's eyes make it sound a little bit more than what it is.
They just say well all you did was skip breakfast but actually what that's doing is going without food for 18 hours.
If you eat at 6 like I do and you're not having anything until say Maybe even two o'clock the next day.
That's a fast.
I mean, that's a chance for your body to, as my osteopath lady puts it, your body isn't having to concentrate on digesting all the time.
So it can actually go into a sort of cycle of diagnostics and putting things right and general sort of healing.
Because digestion takes a lot of... Digesting yourself.
Digesting myself.
Yeah, no, I've been getting a bit of that because I have just Gulped down a cup of tea.
But yeah, so Friday when I do get to have my lunch Which I have with the boy It's in town at one of our favorite cafes and ah when it arrives it is just one of those moments is the eggs and bacon and sausage and hash browns and It barely touches a side.
So yeah, I've just had the joy of all of that.
But you know, with this dieting, with the skipping breakfast thing, the ditching carbs until dinner time, I've lost a stone and a half in weight without really trying, you know, without sort of ever going hungry.
And it's extraordinary.
For people who struggle to lose weight, I thoroughly recommend it.
Um, yes, I've been struggling to find ways to lose weight because I really need to lose a few pounds.
Because you are so fat, aren't you?
Yeah, you're gross.
It's been, it's been a problem.
I don't like to talk about it very often, which is why you don't hear me talking about it, but this, this can be the come clean moment.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm thinking, I don't know how one's going to do this, but I think the real, you really need to do a kind of like a three day, a three day fast.
I did a two-dayer at New Year's Eve because I was so ill.
I'd had my first session of osteopathy and it was such a radical shift in my internal being that it induced a fever for like three or four days which is something I had been warned of and I was having a massive purge but Rather than do the whole thing of, well, you've got to eat, even though you don't want to.
It was like, well, I don't want to eat.
So I went, I went 48 hours without any food.
And that's part of the, you know, if your body's saying, don't eat, don't bloody eat.
Yes.
But it doesn't really count it.
I'm sorry.
Being ill and not eating.
Is that cheating?
Is that a cheating part?
Well, it's not cheating, but it's not really, it's neither here nor there.
I mean, look, a bloke in the gym, He's no longer there, but he was.
Simon, who is a Christian, has been on two 40-day fasts.
What?
Is that why he's no longer there?
He's wasted away to nothing.
On the 40th day, he just ceased to be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I sought him but his place could nowhere be found.
It was extraordinary.
Yeah, he just vanished and you've you've solved the mystery.
That's why you go.
So, well, apparently you do.
I mean, I came across a conspiracy theory on Twitter the other day that certain key passages have been removed from the Bible.
And one of them is, not all Bibles, but you know, comparing the King James with the NIV, this chap was positing.
That this key passage from Matthew had been removed, which sings the praises of prayer and fasting.
And his theory was, they don't want you to know about fasting, it's really important.
Well, all the more hardcore Christian groups that I am on the fringes of, for them, fasting is every bit as important as prayer.
You know, it goes hand in hand, prayer and fasting, fasting and prayer.
And it was always part of Of what those of faith did.
Whatever the faith, there's always a fasting thing, so there's got to be something in it.
And then there's all the alternative health therapies, who all extol the virtues of fasting.
In fact, some of them say fasting alone will cure you of half your ills, because your body will just... Yeah, apoptosis.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it kills all the sort of rubbish... the rubbish cells.
Mm-hmm.
It induces a state of apoptosis where, yeah, and it's always satisfying when you're doing your fast, even if it's only your kind of breakfast skipping one, where you can go online and see what's happening.
14 hours into your fast.
Hour 14.
All of your toxins have left your system.
Yes.
So do you suppose this is what our dear King Charles will be doing to get rid of his terrible bout of cancer?
Do you know what?
I think he will be... because have you heard about this new anti-cancer vaccine?
It sounds wonderful doesn't it?
Well, it does because a lot of people have been worried about this.
Actually, I was thinking about this.
I was thinking about all the years that I, and you too probably, have wasted worrying about getting cancer.
Have you started watching One Day yet?
Yes, I started watching it last night.
First episode.
I thought it was rather charming and well done.
I enjoyed it.
It's lovely.
But as we know, all television and all entertainment of every sort, including novels actually, is basically programming and brainwashing.
And they've been doing this for a very long time.
And have you got to episode two yet?
No, no.
Just all I've done is episode one.
Okay well and I'm liking the music particularly.
No spoilers but there is there is this this character Oh, I'm going to give it away.
It's his mum and, and his lovely mum.
And there's a suspicion that hasn't been revealed yet that she might have cancer.
She's got some news that she won't break to him.
And I suspect it's cancer.
I suspect she's going to die.
I don't know.
I haven't read the book, but I'm thinking if it is cancer, I'm thinking, Oh no, not cancer again.
It's just like, it's Cancer is there mainly to frighten you.
It's to make you crave our NHS.
The two go hand in hand.
Cancer, sports star, dying of cancer, bravely battling against cancer, cancer, cancer, King Charles cancer, cancer, NHS.
It's aimed at our subconscious and the reason I know this is because I've done a podcast you're going to love.
Have you heard of Jason Kristoff?
No.
Okay.
I don't want to give too much away because that would spoil the podcast but Jason examines how the media, the entertainment industry, everything works on your subconscious.
So that you might be watching a movie like Fight Club and you'll be watching, you'll think it's about people having imaginary fights with one another or whatever the weird incomprehensible plot is, I forget now.
Is that right?
They're having fights with each other in their head or something?
It's just the one guy alone and it's not a club at all and it's all in his mind.
That's just shit, isn't it?
Isn't that really disappointing?
Just a bit, yeah, because you think there's this whole movement that started of fights going on, but yeah, it's a bit of a shit reveal.
The secret to fight, the first rule of Fight Club is, it doesn't actually bloody exist.
The first spoiler of Fight Club is, it's not real.
Well I think, do you know what, I think we've done a lot of people a big favour, those who are lucky enough not to have seen Fight Club.
We've spared them a lot of... We should do that!
We should do Dick and James' good friendly spoilers that will help your life.
Yeah, so I'd be like, I see dead people like you.
You know what?
I'm sure I told this one before.
I was sitting watching that film, I See Dead People.
Yeah.
And I realised, I think it was about a third of the way in.
Right.
Hang on, he's dead isn't he?
And so, I can't remember who it was sitting next to me.
I think it may have been the wife, but I could not bear the idea that she was sitting through this film enjoying it while I was bearing the burden of this terrible knowledge.
I said, I think he's dead!
Why did you whisper it?
Well, in case anyone else is in the room.
Oh, in the cinema?
No, I was in the cinema.
Right, so I wasn't even at home.
OK.
No, no, no, no.
I just thought, I just thought, I just kind of thought it was so obvious and I just thought, well, A, I'll relieve myself of the burden of knowledge and B, I'm ahead of the game.
I'll show that, yeah, I've got... Yeah, but to be fair, you're both writers.
So, you know, it's like you've got the burden of thinking up plots and twists and scripts for a living.
So, you know, you're going to be more No, I don't think the wife is as cynical or as plot literate as I am and definitely not as plot literate as boy is.
I mean, he just understands how the mechanics of a screenplay work and just will tell you instantly what's going on, you know, and we're always alive for things like Chekhov's Well not Chekhov's gun, that's too obvious, but Chekhov's... That sort of thing, but on a higher level, yeah.
Chekhov's cup of coffee that's about to get spilt, or Chekhov's cancer that's, you know, Chekhov's incipient cancer, or whatever.
You can just... because they set them up at the beginning and you go, oh yeah, that's gonna crop up again.
But what other... I'm just trying to think of other things that we should spoil the ending of to save people the...
We'll work backwards on what's the shittest film you've seen lately.
We'll save this one for another day.
Oh, Dick!
What?
The horrible, horrible, horrible film that I told you not to watch.
Yes, which I haven't watched.
No.
Don't.
Okay, I'm going to spoil the ending of that film.
You know what it's called?
No, but I hardly ever go to see films anyway.
So it wasn't that much of a burden.
It's about the gay couple in a dystopian sort of sort of Docklands type high-rise and the guy discovers the guy was orphaned at the age of 12.
His parents got killed in a car crash.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is so you don't have to watch it.
Well this sounds so very promising already.
It's quite jolly and he's going he's going okay he goes to the park In at dusk and you think he's cottaging.
I think that's the kind of the the trick your your the director plays in you think he's cottaging and he meets this bloke in the park and he follows him into this off license and the bloke buys a buys a bottle of whiskey and he turns to me says right you ready and you think oh no, it's going to be a kind of gay sex in the wood scene.
We're going to have to sit through and pretend.
We're not offended by but It turns out that it's his dad.
It's his dad who hasn't aged since the 80s when he was killed in the car crash.
And the dad is living in the same house with mum who was also not killed in the car crash.
And so he goes and has a sort of series of sort of therapeutic reunions with his parents.
And they say, and yeah, there's the scene where he breaks to his mother, the fact that she's, he's gay and mum's slightly uncomfortable about it.
You know, are you unhappy, darling?
That's quite well done.
But then right at the end, he's got this, this, you know, younger man boyfriend.
And he has another visit to his parents who become more and more vanishy as their ghostly purpose unravels and it's time for them to go to the other world, their duty having been done and all that.
And he goes back to the house for a happy reunion with his boyfriend and guess what?
Boyfriend was dead all along.
The boyfriend's not just dead, but actually his body is rotten and bloated.
Oh!
This is just intimated.
And this is just intimated, you see the kind of skin texture and stuff.
And the body is rotten and bloated, and you're thinking, oh, this is a bit bleak.
This wasn't prefigured.
There was no indication that this nicest young chap was going to top himself with ketamine and whiskey.
Not really.
So why are we being put through this?
And then, guess how he deals with it?
He tops himself.
No, that would be good.
That would have been my preference at this point.
Because then at least it would go, you know, Lydia Forever style bleak.
I'm happy with that.
No, he goes upstairs to his flat and there is his boyfriend, as he imagines him in his head, still alive.
So he's going to carry on this whole visiting the dead type thing?
What do you think about... I don't like that trick.
I just think it's... I think there was something disturbingly Gnostic about the trick it plays.
So the film ends with... the camera sort of draws back into space, so the kind of... the warm glow of their room, it disappears into this little dot, dot, dot, dot, and it becomes like a star.
And there were other stars where other people's sort of psycho dramas are being played out and it's, I thought what the film was telling us is everything is a simulation, nothing is real.
I think it was, I think it was one of those.
That's our programming lesson on that one.
So I bloody hate that film.
And you've remembered what it's called?
Gay Men Die.
No, that wouldn't be a very snappy title, would it?
Art House movie in which gay men die gnostically.
Right.
Okay, well that was a long spoiler alert.
But now people know to avoid this film, which they'll only really know about it once they've started watching it.
They'll go, oh hang on, hang on, this must be the one that he was talking about!
Damn him!
Also, Dick, you don't want to see the bloke giving his lover a handjob in the bath.
No, no.
I mean, there are no erections visible, but I don't even want to hint that a man is giving a man a handjob in the bath.
Well, it's bad enough what's that sort of drinking the bath water, the spunky bath water thing.
I haven't watched that.
I'm not going to watch that.
You haven't seen that, have you?
I have seen that.
Why did you see that?
Well, because I got conned into seeing it and it was horrible and sordid and at least I'm able to do the water cooler conversation at work about it because they'll have all seen it.
Why would you want to do that?
Because I live a normie life from nine to five and I have to exist with these people.
I can't always be the I know everything and you lot are living an illusion, type thing.
I've got to live a moment.
Do you not hate that song?
What?
The Dance Floor song.
Oh yeah, yeah, Murder on the Dance Floor.
Yeah.
I mean, that was never a good song.
No.
Do you know what was a good song?
Her much earlier one, when she was with the audience.
The one that was... Sing it to me.
Ditch the Suit one.
Oh no, it's absolutely unsingable.
It's very moody.
Is it?
Yeah.
And I've forgotten what it's called.
It's got a name... Why it's moody?
Hang on.
Why was it moody?
I've Got the Wherewithal.
It's called I've Got the Wherewithal.
And that's the first line of the song.
I suppose I'll look it up.
I suppose I'll look it up.
You'll know it, you'll recognise it.
It's got a moody video and everything.
But yeah, and then she turned into a sort of disco queen.
But it's got a terrible tune.
It's just like, it's not... Well, so is everything.
So all the young people who are watching this, like our children's generation, they think that song is really great because they're listening to it through a filter of nostalgia, which makes it seem somehow cool.
They don't know it was a shit song.
It's a bit like Rick Astley, but everyone discovering that Rick Astley was in fact great when we knew at the time he was terrible.
He was just embarrassing.
Maybe it's a function of the fact that music is now so awful, I mean it really is so satanically evil and just awful in every way and wrong and unlistenable that anything from the past seems relatively amazing and the kids feed on it like sharks on a whale carcass.
I'm getting the same problem but I'm looking back at stuff I used to like in the 80s and 90s and now finding I absolutely hate it.
And one of them, and it keeps on coming on the playlist at work.
Pulp.
Anything by Pulp I find absolutely unlistenable.
Especially babies.
Dick!
Dick!
Dick, I'm so glad you said this.
I knew at the time I knew at the time that Pulp were awful and I couldn't say it.
Right.
Pulp were always awful.
They were always, always, always awful.
A bit like Blur were always awful.
But there was some sort of glamour they had over us, wasn't it?
Well, not over you, obviously, but it was like a magic spell.
And I thought babies was, you know, lyrically clever and so arch.
But when it comes on now, I'm actually wheeling my chair over to the computer that the music is coming from.
And I'm casually flicking it on one.
And, oh.
Oh, gosh.
It was a trick.
Yeah?
It was like a Jedi mind trick.
You enjoy this band.
And I don't believe anybody was, actually.
They liked the idea of Pulp.
They liked Jarvis Cocker, this skinny guy.
The idea of Jarvis Cocker.
Because he was more of a concept, wasn't he?
Yeah, I mean, it was perfect art college sort of wank, wasn't it?
The band had no charisma.
They had nothing.
It was just... They were awful.
They were really awful.
I mean... Who's the... The band with Ange Doolittle?
Eat.
They were... Eat?
I'm sure I would rather have seen a dozen Eat concerts than Pulp.
And didn't Pulp headline Glastonbury or something?
Yeah, I think they did.
But they did.
They probably still could now.
It was just one of those things.
And then Jarvis's role in helping with the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
Oh, and doing something to Michael Jackson's bottom or something.
Oh, no, that was in the Brits, I think, when he was pretending to fart towards Michael Jackson.
Yeah, I mean, the spell has gone, hasn't it?
Some of us fell for it, but now looking back, it's so obvious.
You see, when I drank water then, a droplet splashed on my eyelid.
I thought that was skin hanging off.
Yeah, that's right.
That's probably eyelid cancer.
So I'm talking of doing, talking of your recent podcast, an upcoming podcast, I had to have, knowing that this was coming up, I thought I better watch a few because I'm way, way, way behind and I thought, I watched the David Webb one, the financial guy.
And actually, for a financial guy, it was really good and interesting and engaging.
Especially the last half hour, it really gets going.
Now, I know a lot of these, you deliberately pace them.
So, you know, you keep the really meaty bit, the main thing, like you did with the Bob thing, to the end.
I like a little intro.
Yeah, well, there's certainly lots and lots of foreplay going on in these.
But it was the David Scott one.
Now, obviously, I know David Scott from UK Column.
And I was watching this thing thinking, it's probably going to be all right.
But it was brilliant.
He was so engaging and such a good talker.
And the two of you had really good chemistry.
It was brilliant from start to finish, so I commend that to our viewers, to watch the David Scott one.
And what a great guy he is, and what good work he's doing.
So yeah, nicely played there, brother.
I've got some absolute crackers coming up.
I mean, we're talking Bob level.
We're talking Bob level.
So the Kristoff one, is his name Justin did I say?
Whatever, Jason Kristoff.
I told you that he talks about how we are programmed through movies and stuff.
Oh yeah, I didn't mention the whole point about Fight Club, I got distracted.
Do you know pretty much every shot in Fight Club has got somebody drinking out of a Starbucks cup?
Really?
And your conscious mind doesn't pick this up, but your subconscious mind is going, Starbucks, better drink Starbucks, then I can fit in, you know, everyone drinks Starbucks, clearly it's the safe strategy, you know, the herd strategy.
Your subconscious mind is much more alert to this kind of stuff, and it's your subconscious mind that kind of gives the orders.
Before you, another distraction, before you get... What's that?
I just happen to have it here.
I've got so many things on this table.
Look, see?
Things everywhere.
Anyway, I'm playing with the things on my desk because I'm easily distracted.
The Miri, is it Miri Finch?
Miri AF?
Yeah.
One of her more recent substacks was on this subject of The way they get us to like pop stars, film stars, soap stars, what have you, and she focused on, initially she opens up the blog with talking about friends, about the three women in Friends, Jennifer Aniston and what have you, Courtney Cox and the other, Lisa Kudrow.
We know, she says, that they are all obsessive dieters and that they would be A gust at the idea that they would actually eat an ice cream at all.
So, you know, it'll just be low calorie coffee type things.
But in Friends...
We watched them eating, say, Haagen-Dazs out of the tub, because that's what friends do, and they have all the nice things that they encourage the rest of the world to do.
And Courtney Cox will wear a certain dress, and that dress will sell out.
And Jennifer Aniston will have her hair done in a certain way, and everyone will have their hair cut.
And she was saying that even though we know... I didn't.
I never bloody did.
Well, I tried, but failed.
Even though we know these characters in real life are nothing like what they portray, we're still conned into their whole lifestyle.
I say we, obviously not us.
But she used Friends as a really good example of how this is done.
And then it went on to making less obvious points throughout this article.
But it's, as you say, when you're looking at films, you now can't fully enjoy them for thinking, What is the underlying message in this particular one?
And it's easier to look back on things like Friends and like Fight Club, but actually spotting it in the newer things that are more enjoyable, it's more of a challenge.
Do you know that in the commercial breaks or whatever it was, during the filming of Friends, they would chant Hail Satan?
What?
How do you know this?
Because it was in... I think it was... Now, who's the one that got topped by Hillary?
Who got Clintoned?
Who was, you know, the hotel doorknob?
I think Anthony Bourdain may have mentioned it.
What, one of the actors from Friends got hotel doorknobbed?
No, no, no.
Anthony Bourdain allegedly committed suicide, except he didn't.
No one commits suicide by hanging themselves on a hotel doorknob.
Anthony Bourdain revealed it, I think.
I think it comes from him.
I say Google it, but obviously Google's going to suppress it.
But yeah, it is a fact that they used to say, hail Satan.
The whole thing was a psychological operation.
You know my theory on why Ross was a paleontologist, for example?
Yeah, to get us to believe in dinosaurs.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you done your dinosaur t-shirt yet, by the way?
I've got a design, but I don't want to commit to spending the money on getting them printed until I've sold a few more of my other ones, because otherwise I'll have a complete backup of t-shirts that don't fully sell out of one before I do the others.
So do go to denningpolestudio.com And buy my t-shirts and then you will see the glory that is the Where Are You On Dinosaur t-shirt.
Okay.
I'm going to do a Where Are You On Shakespeare.
Where Are You On Flat Earth of Where Are You On.
I think it could be a whole series of Where Are You On.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a good conversation starter.
Now you've got I know I've got my website up and running.
You can sell it on there as well if you want.
No, I've talked to your guy about it, but I'm having difficulties with to and froing on his emails, so I need to get that sorted.
Sounds like he's caught that off me.
What, inability with technology?
Yeah, to communicate particularly.
Yeah, yeah.
While we're doing commercial breaks, as a favour to one of our beloved friends, Bella, who I think you may have met at the Hope Festival, she's really lovely.
Well, I met her anyway, because her mother And Bella came along to an event I did in Oxfordshire.
Well, it's like a village hall event and it was a really, it was one of my favorite events actually.
It was a really small crowd.
It was when I was kind of, you know, like, like more small scale.
And, you know, before I went stadium, huge and sold out.
And I loved Bella's mother who, who had been down the rabbit hole since forever.
And she was, you know, she was completely based and I was going to do a podcast with her.
Unfortunately, she died.
Her house is beautiful.
It's in East Sussex near Battle, which is where the Hope Festival is.
It's that wooden sort of clapperboard thing and it's got a pool.
It's the kind of house you would love to live in.
It's worth about one and a half million and they're selling it Through auction.
No, not an auction.
I mean through lottery tickets.
Okay.
So you can buy a lottery ticket for a fiver.
And maybe win this house.
And some of the proceeds go to the Hope Charity, which is the charity for Hope School.
I'm going to definitely have a go at this.
I mean, this is not just us setting it up saying, and where can I get these things again?
That's www dot.
No, but seriously, this sounds really cool.
And I think I'm going to push a few people that way.
I'm just going to look, see if I can see Bella.
Bella.
OK.
Oh, I'm looking at the house now.
It is just amazing.
Okay.
And where can you get the tickets?
I don't want to move to East Sussex though.
I quite like Worcester.
You might just for the house.
Yeah.
We need a sort of hyperlink, really.
Well, can't you sort that out at the end when you've recorded it?
Oh no, it's actually Bella's house.
She wants to run a Glamp site.
So she's not selling it?
No she is, but it's not her mother's house.
Right, OK.
OK, it's bit.ly
forward slash raffle win a dream house hope so r a double f a l l not as you'd expect to spell raffle win a dream house hope i'll put the details below below anyway but it's but it's it's it's good it's good thanks um and i hesitate to come back to this some um
This chap was telling me about subliminal stuff, but I want to tell you one more interesting thing.
Poverty programming.
Have you ever watched Schitt's Creek?
I've seen enough memes from it to have probably watched an entire season.
You know the premise?
Yes.
They were rich, now they're poor, and they've never been happier.
Right.
And once you realise that this is poverty programming, that this is a theme you will see recurring throughout TV and movies and in books, people losing all their money but discovering that actually money is just like... and you think that would be a good thing, that would be kind of a Christian message, but that's not the point.
No.
It's coming at it from a thoroughly un-Christian angle.
You will only ever be poor But learn to love it, sort of thing.
Yeah, exactly.
Get used to poverty, Proles, because that's all you've got ahead of you.
Which is a bit like why, in Friends, they all have very averagely to poorly paid jobs, and yet they're living in this amazing apartment, which is way above what any of them would plausibly be able to afford.
Do you remember the episode where the stupid actor one, whatever his name is, Matt LeBlanc, Joey?
Yeah.
He briefly achieves massive fame and success in his sitcom and he gets rich and stuff and then His character gets written out of the series, suddenly, and he goes from hero to zero, rich to poor, in the space of, you know, a week.
Right.
And, he discovers that actually it's okay, he's much happier being poor.
Being poor, yeah.
So there you are.
Stay in your lane.
Poverty programming.
Right.
You've heard it here, probably first, because you haven't watched the podcast yet, because it hasn't come out.
Right.
Okay, well I don't need poverty programming.
I've got... I'm fully happy with my lot.
But in a thoroughly Christian sort of way.
No!
Don't be.
Don't be?
No, really don't.
Because actually... God, you do have to go and ruin everything, don't you?
Yeah, I do.
I haven't even told you about coffee.
I'm not even going to go there.
Don't ruin... You ruined CS Windows for me the other day.
And now you're going to ruin coffee.
I could so easily ruin your coffee forever.
I seriously could.
Seriously, I could.
Do you want me to?
No wait, I'm not going to get it.
No, not right now.
Give me another weekend of coffee enjoying.
I'm not going to ruin Christianity for you because I think I'm kind of saying something you knew already.
But I did a podcast with Terry Wolfe and it's a cracker.
It's two hours and it's kind of the white pill equivalent of black pill because Terry has written two books on Revelation and The news ain't good.
We are fast approaching.
We've already... You know there were seven seals?
Mm-hmm.
Not... Not that kind of seal.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you don't.
There's a dog outside trying to get in.
Oh, it wouldn't be complete without a canine distraction.
You're not meant to be there.
You really are not.
If you piss on the floor, you are going to be in such trouble.
I think we've definitely opened three seals and possibly four.
There's seven.
But Terry reckons that the opening of the seals is going to accelerate.
So, you know, maybe one would take a hundred year gap between the first two and then much shorter and much shorter.
The deal is for Us Christians, proper Christians, as opposed to the kind of fair-weather kind, is that basically we're going to get martyred.
We're going to get our heads chopped off or tortured and, you know, fed to lions or whatever.
The upside is we get to wear white and be among the, you know, God's chosen.
We get special seats in heaven.
But not without first having had loads of suffering and being, you know, sort of abandoned by our friends and it's not going to be good.
Great, so have you got any good news apart from the white robes thing which is lovely of course.
Yeah well no I mean obviously eternal life you know we get God's special love and blessing and we get to be among the elect.
I don't know what special privileges are and also that happens for eternity whereas our pain will be in the scheme of things quite brief.
Well you hope that if we are fed to lions they're particularly hungry lions and maybe sort of kill you as quickly as a terrier kills a rat rather than a cat with a mouse for instance.
Or, tigers would be better because tigers pounce on you from behind.
So you don't even see them.
They'll break your neck.
I'm sure you'd feel the whole... sort of... It's not going to be like a bullet through the head, is it?
It's not going to be like a sniper taking you out.
In the days when I used to worry about being eaten by a great white shark, I read lots of accounts of people who'd been almost eaten by great white sharks.
The impression I got was that well they talk about having a sort of tremendous pressure on them you know like yeah but they don't say it was it hurt so much like I've never experienced pain in my life and the fear was off the scale but maybe they just didn't say that because it was just didn't need saying I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean I think.
With shark attacks, you imagine it for a lot longer than anyone who's really being attacked by a shark, because it's going to be very, very sudden when you're actually attacked by a shark.
There's not going to be any build-up, is there?
If... you don't know.
I mean, you think about the shark attack of that Russian guy.
At Sharm El Sheikh, which is photographed off the beach.
Now, there was definitely a period where he pretty much knew he was going to die.
Yeah, because he was screaming for help.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, you speak Russian as well?
Yes, well I've been learning from Duolingo.
You haven't?
No, I've just been watching Tucker Carlson interviews instead.
Picking up what I can from that.
Moi koshka.
What's that mean?
Nasha koshka.
Nasha koshka means our cat.
Oh, right!
Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll be ready for the Russian invasion then, won't you?
I... I will.
I'll be ready for the next Putin interview.
Have you watched the interview?
No.
Is it worth it?
Well, unfortunately it starts with a half-hour history lesson from Putin.
You see, the problem is that, I mean, even though I think Tucker is part of the fake opposition, I do kind of love him at the same time.
I love the act, even if I don't, even if I can see through it.
And same with Putin, actually.
I love the act, even though I can see through it.
But what Putin does, and this is typical of a sort of KGB man and also a judo player, is that the first thing he wants to do is unbalance his opponent.
So Tucker starts, thank you Mr. President for this interview and he says in his first question is something like, you know, so tell me about why it was that you went into Ukraine.
You said this quote, you said that America was planning on starting a war with you or something like that.
He quotes Putin.
And instead of going, yeah, I said that because you've got the quote.
It's written down and it's obviously sort of sourceable.
Putin goes, so is this an interview or a game show or something like this?
And you can imagine what it must have been like to be in that position.
You've legitimately quoted Putin and you think you've given him an easy question to explain why it is that he went into Ukraine and instead he implies that you're a kind of a joker and that really he's He shouldn't be doing this interview with you, you know.
I thought it was a bit of a... I would have enjoyed a bit more bounce between the two.
A bit more, you know, like camaraderie or something.
I mean, it wasn't quite Ike Dellingpole, but it was... I mean, nothing... Yeah, but I suppose Putin's got his domestic audience to consider as well, hasn't he?
He's got to be seen as taking no shit from the Americans, no matter Which side they come from, you know, but yeah, you're right for us it would have been more of a more trolling our enemies if it had been a friendly a very friendly exchange and apparently completely open.
There's another bit where he brings up the fact that Putin does brings up the fact that Tucker once applied to join the CIA.
Yes, I saw someone tweeting that.
Where is he party to that sort of information?
Well, he's KGP, isn't he?
Oh, Wikipedia, Dick.
Really?
He's really done a deep dive, hasn't he?
He's got his top You know, all the people at Dzerzhinsky Square or whatever it is that the headquarters is, the KGB.
What are they called?
Whatever the KGB are called now.
They're called something else, aren't they?
Yeah.
FSD.
Yeah.
They're HQ.
They're top people.
Wikipedia.
Bring the language specialists.
Delingborg!
You speak English, apparently.
Zaa?
Zaa?
Koshka?
Sabaka?
That's dog, by the way.
Is it our dog?
Dom?
House?
You really are making progress, aren't you?
What's Nasha?
I am.
Tell me Nasha is dog.
No, Nasha is our.
Oh, what a pity.
Yeah, yeah.
Gdi is where?
I could reel off the... You're nearly on the saying, where is our dog?
- And now you could say he is in the home.
- No, no.
No, not Dom.
On the Dom, I think it is.
Right.
Seamless.
Oh, anyway.
You're pushing the boundaries.
You're pushing me beyond my limits now, Dick.
Putin-Delincon is going to be an amazing interview.
It's going to be done all in Russian.
It's going to be quite slow, isn't it?
And limited in its scope.
But I think he's going to appreciate that I made the effort.
He will deliberately keep the subject to how is your cat and is your dog still in your home?
And he might, do you know what he might do?
He might cut me more slack than he gave Tucker.
Yeah, I think he would.
Because he'll have done his work, he'll have read your Wikipedia page from Start to finish.
Yeah.
It's going to be brilliant.
So, okay, so we've got that to look forward to.
We haven't talked about the annoyance, the extreme annoyance of Richard D. Hall losing his case.
Yes, and that's a very recent occurrence.
It was only two or three days ago.
But you know the thing is, they are putting their faith in a legal system which is quite obviously not designed to work in their favour.
The legal system, although it might not be utterly corrupt, its first lookout is to keep its own back.
It's not going to go against previous judgement if it can possibly avoid it.
And it's putting it mildly.
It's designed to prop up the establishment.
You're never, ever, ever going to get an English court conceding on any level that the Manchester Arena bombing was a false flag.
There's no way, even if you had the best law, even if you had Lord Sumption representing you, they're never going to do that.
they're never going to do that.
No.
No.
So he was going to do nothing.
If you've watched, as presumably you have, his two films on the Manchester bombing, and I did this after your interview with him.
He's very in-depth, he's very thorough and he doesn't leave much to the imagination.
He makes it quite clear what's gone on and I'm not sure that any of this evidence was given an airing at His particular court case, and that was part of his issue.
If you read about the misgivings he has about how the case was handled, none of this was ever considered.
But that's because it couldn't be considered.
That's the problem.
Under the terms of the law case being decided on, The stuff that he produced demonstrating that the arena bombing thing was was essentially faked was not relevant to the case.
That's the problem.
Yeah, so so they so arrange it so that so that you you can't sign to fail right from the beginning.
Yeah, and I would imagine that the people who sued him for defamation or whatever it was.
Would have been so heavily resourced by the deep state behind them.
Yeah, because obviously they would in the same way.
Although slightly different circumstances the Mark Stein case, which I fought in the Virginia course, you know, Mark Stein versus Michael Mann and I haven't I haven't had time but Anne and Phelan have been doing a pretty thorough coverage of the case and all the arguments were in favour of Stein.
Stein had all the evidence in his favour and the jury still found for Mann.
You know, it did, like, the case against man was overwhelming and yet the jury still decided.
Now, there have been suggestions, I don't know, I haven't looked into it, that the jury may have been bought off, but I think we have reached the point where this fantasy we used to have that America and Britain had these exemplary justice systems which were You know, fair and equality before the law and all that.
They're just a racket.
They don't even bother pretending to administer justice anymore.
They know that they are just... Well, it's a bit like we used to laugh at things like Pravda and we used to laugh at the idea that In Russia there were elections and that there were trials that would amount to anything other than a guilty verdict and we were possibly right but we've got that here now.
We've got newspapers that are just a parody of truth-telling and a legal system that every case is a foregone conclusion.
So I think just like you shouldn't get ill right now because the last place you want to end up is an NHS hospital.
You don't want to be involved in anything that winds you up in court either, because that's not going to end well either.
Well, that's come with my plan to go and kill somebody.
Well, yeah, whatever your battle is, don't rely on fighting it in court.
OK, well I just won't get caught.
No.
I haven't decided who I'm going to kill yet, so maybe I'll change my mind.
Well, I'd keep it as enigmatic as possible because this is all going to be used in evidence.
Should I strike this bit from the video?
No, because it's entertaining.
What are you doing now?
Well, I thought it was maybe some flock of geese or I thought it was maybe some flock of geese or something being interesting outside, but I think it was just something.
Just the rain doing something.
You would have left the podcast to go and observe a flock of geese?
Well yes, I think that's one of the joys about living in the country that you can see nature doing its nature thing.
I tell you what, I tell you what we see a lot of at the moment.
Barn Owls.
Alright, that's lovely.
Yeah.
When are we driving up the drive at night?
There's a, there's a, the male, the male is smaller than the female.
You quite often see him on one of the fence posts and you get such a good view.
And before we moved to the country, never, never saw owls.
You know, you think of them, you have to go to an owl sanctuary, don't you, basically, an owl sanctuary and petting zoo.
Well, we caught sight of barn owls in Northumbria last time we were up there when we did Hadrian's Wall.
And it was the wife who spotted them and they were Yeah, up in the high branches.
But I don't know how she got her eye in to see them.
But it's one of those things that when you know where to look for them, you can spot them.
But you know, you could walk within a few yards.
Yes, the Northumbrian Barn Owls are a rare subspecies of the Barn Owl.
Are they?
Famous for it.
Oh, okay.
No, it's just a lie I just invented on the spur of the moment, just to... Right.
Like there aren't enough lies around already without you inventing more.
Yeah, well, that's true, yeah.
Do you know, I think this is the problem.
I've been corrupted, Dick, by the... You just hate the truth.
I've been programmed by the system.
Yeah, we're all falling victim to it though.
There is no truth anymore.
This, Dick, this is the thing.
I was, I just think, to those of us who are, I don't like the word awake, because I think awake is part of this, the great awakening, which I think is part of the deception.
The people who are part of this great awakening are actually being lured towards the new age, not towards the truth, which is the Christian message.
Well, I know Ike has a big problem with people who describe themselves as awake, and they're not as awake as him, so therefore they can't be described as awake.
And then it's like, well, what is awake?
And what are you waking up to?
Like every attempt at defining our movement, which isn't a movement, you'll be floundering.
Except in the sense of who?
Obviously that's a very important movement, but the definitions of what we are... I've recently scrubbed Libertarian from my bio on Twitter.
I did it without fanfare, but on consideration I don't think you can be a libertarian and a Christian.
When we were comfortable describing ourselves as libertarians, it was a case of Yeah, everyone should be able to do what they want to do, as long as it doesn't upset others.
And obviously, you've got to look after those who can't look after themselves.
There are exceptions to the do what the hell you want.
But it's a little bit bloody close to do what thou wilst, isn't it?
And it's kind of like, actually, I don't think you should be able to do whatever you want to do.
And when you become a Christian, it's even more of an imperative to just not Let yourself get away with doing the things that you used to before you became a Christian.
So I don't think libertarianism is compatible with Christianity.
Also let us never, never, never forget That all the libertarians, apart from my friend Tom Woods, who is the exception, all the libertarians shut the bed during COVID.
All the people from the Institute of Economic Affairs, the IEA, the groovy think tank, all the lads in Tufton Street.
producing these edgy papers.
Yeah, but you could also ask, were they ever really libertarians?
I mean, it's another one of those movements that's difficult to define in the first place, but you can sort of hang your coat on it because it's a useful peg that means you're not a socialist and you're not a conservative, but you are kind of a conservative.
But it was...
It was a temporary useful peg, but now I'm without peg, but I'm quite happy to say Christian, but even calling yourself a Christian and a lot of people's eyes will.
Associated with the church which I don't associate with at all so Labels are really bloody tricky so awake to bring it full circle back to the question of using the term awake Yeah, it's not satisfactory, but it gives you an idea of
So anyway, what I was saying, I just reminded myself, was that everything is, to those of us with eyes to see, it's all so bleeding obvious that, okay, so the justice system doesn't administer justice anymore, probably hasn't got, the politicians are all puppets.
The organizations that set up to defend free speech are just cover for for more erosion of free speech.
You know, you know what I'm saying here.
It's like all around us and it's as though the those who haven't joined our joined our side, you know, the sort of the Julia Hartley Brewers of this world actually become have become more entrenched in their More desperate and fanatical in propping up the decaying old system that we know is a sham.
The more we pick holes in it, the more they... This rotten, disgusting system and they want to get the baubles of it.
Well, their jobs depend on it.
So anyone who's got kind of a paid job, on which their opinions depend.
They're not going to willingly change those opinions, are they?
I mean, can you think of anyone who is completely honest and outspoken, who gets to earn a living doing that?
I mean, in the Bob podcast, you were talking to him about how amazing it was that he should Cast off his well-paid job, which was eventually a well-paid job at the Telegraph, to be unshackled and still earn more money than he was before, to be able to support his family better than he did before, and yet have that complete freedom.
But he had to risk everything to do so.
But he's a very rare example of someone who can cast off the shackles of censorship and thrive.
So there aren't many examples, you know, you can count them on the fingers of one frostbitten hand.
But I suppose you are just about another one of them, but it's not like you're at all mainstream.
Well, I suppose I should be grateful for that.
Imagine if this space, if that's the right word, were filled with ex-MSM journalists doing edgy podcasts.
Yeah.
I mean, imagine if Tobes was actually competition.
Yeah.
No, I suppose it's a very interesting way of looking at it.
On one side, The coin, it's lonely, but on the other, it's actually, it's just as bloody well, because... Blessed relief.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I just like the idea that Toby could be genuine competition.
But it's so funny that when you... I know I shouldn't, but I occasionally go on to Daily Skeptic, just to see what they're talking.
Well, it's just that they are on the climate change debate.
They're where you were, sort of, 15 to 20 years ago.
And I just look at it and I, you know, winter bones might not actually generate the energy that is used to create them in the first place.
I mean, shocking stuff.
It's just like, I guess it's kindergarten stuff.
I mean, great that they're taking that line, but can't they go, you know what?
This is what James was saying 15, 20 years ago.
So, yeah, you know what?
In the days when I used to, well, I was still on speakers with Tobes.
He doggedly maintained the line that the planet was warming to a degree through human intervention and that one shouldn't not Talk about it once one shouldn't say that global warming doesn't exist because it does and you know Why you why are you saying that James that just discredits our cause and of course?
he that keeps him in his It keeps him on the reservation and the missile the permissible Position which keeps you on the reservation is and this is what the global this is what Nigel Lawson maintained when he founded the global policy
The Global Warming Policy Foundation is, yes, it seems that global warming is a thing and we are contributing towards the heating of the planet, but it's not as serious as the Greens make out.
So let's look at the evidence.
And actually, it's way worse than that.
They, the bad guys, the Rockefellers initially, from the 1940s onward, invented this shit.
They seeded academe, they seeded all these institutions with this idea that climate change was a problem and needed addressing.
When the fact is, we could ignore it completely and be much, much better off and have a much better planet.
It's a lie.
The whole thing is a lie.
And Toby would never ever go there because that would be well outside the Overton window.
He wouldn't dare.
Yeah.
His controllers wouldn't allow it.
But as a leap from the approach that completely mainstream media would take, it's radical, you know, what they're saying.
So it's sort of like, you've got to remember how the norm is thinked.
It's fake radical, Dick.
Yeah, of course it's fake radical.
It's radical compared to the Daily Mail or Or the Telegraph, or the Times, or the Guardian, or any of that lot.
And you know, your normies who are drinking in Starbucks and trawling the high street.
I've got this thing I do now.
Every time I get the impression that we might possibly be winning and people might be waking up, I remember walking down the high street on any given day and looking at the people going into Starbucks, you know, the most normie coffee place imaginable, and I look at the people in the supermarket and I think, you know what, there's not a single one of these people who is even remotely on board with any of my beliefs.
I'm a complete freak to these people and you can tell by looking at them.
You really can, that they don't hold any of your values.
And we are so far from winning, it's not true.
So, something like the Daily Skeptic, for people like that, would be a dangerous truther propaganda.
You know, it would be crazily out there.
It's a containment operation there, Dick.
It's like Normers who are thinking of transitioning.
They dip their toe in the water of the Daily Skeptic or similar.
There's lots of other similar... Amazing Polly on Twitter has got their number.
So is Thinking Slowly.
There are all these fake resistance people and they offer just enough information to titillate normies into thinking that they're being quite edgy and that they're actually exploring the boundaries of They're potentially looking at a new paradigm, but just enough, no more.
No, no.
That's effectively gatekeeping, isn't it?
It is gatekeeping.
It is the definition of gatekeeping.
That's what's going on.
Yeah.
I'm completely on board with that, but I'm just sort of... I find it amusing that you don't get more credit for being so ahead of the game in I mean, your position 15 to 20 years ago was nowhere near as radical as it is now.
You've got to acknowledge that.
You didn't wake up completely one day.
And the Global Warming Policy Foundation would have been much more in line with them back then, certainly, than you are now.
But you'd have been thrown off the telegraph much earlier had you taken that more uncompromising line back then.
Well, what I probably would have done is what a lot of journalists do.
I'd have thought, well, okay, so I'm not allowed to say it's a massive, you know, conspiracy by the Rockefellers and they're evil.
I'll just address, you know, I'll take the cop out and do the, you know, the watered down version, you know.
Get away with what you can thinking what a great job you're doing.
Yeah, probably.
I'm much more hardcore these days.
Tell me about it.
Right, we've done over an hour, and I'm probably going to go and have a nice cup of tea, but not coffee.
Do you know what?
I was going to have a cup of tea.
Yeah?
I'm going to have some... I don't like to say this, but I'm going to have some peanut butter on toast.
Yeah?
Sometimes I don't.
Sometimes I just have the pure peanut butter.
What?
Yeah.
I get a little one.
You know those little shiny stainless steel Indian bowls they sell in India in hardware stores?
No, I don't.
OK.
Well, we've got a few of those.
And I just shove a part... It gets quite flaggy.
Right.
But I don't like peanut butter.
At least not eating bread.
It's not something I can ever do except in cooking.
So you've lost me there.
Oh, really?
Anyway, I'm probably going to enjoy a cup of coffee.
What do you eat for your...
No, you can't.
Just ruin coffee for me another day.
Don't listen to the Jason Kristoff episode for a few weeks.
The Terry Wolf one, Dick, it's going to blow your mind.
You're just going to think... Good, I look forward to it.
Yeah.
In fact, it's out now!
Oh, is it?
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