Dr Elmar Jung
Dentist, Holistic, Biological, Integrative Dental Health Coach, Naturopath, Author, International Speaker and Founder of the Dr Elmar Jung Dental Clinic in Southampton, England.
For 35 years, Elmar Jung has been an advocate for holistic integrative dentistry.
Early on, Elmar realized that treating symptoms is the most common approach that dentists and doctors take to tackle illnesses. Convinced that there must be more, he embarked on a remarkable journey to explore complementary diagnostic and treatment methods which offer a whole-person approach.
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Welcome to the DellingPod with me James Dellingpole.
I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest but I'm really looking forward to talking to Elmar Jung.
Elmar I met at one of my live events didn't I Elmar?
At Endorse That's right, yeah.
With Clive De Carl.
With Clive De Carl.
And you came up to me afterwards and said, would you be interested in doing a podcast with analystic dentists?
And I thought, Yeah.
And then I forgot about it.
But actually, I mean, I'm genuinely interested in finding out, first of all, what holistic dentists do, and then kind of asking you all the questions I've always wanted to ask about teeth and like how to How to, on a personal level, how to undo all the damage which must have been done in my early years by any number of cowboy dentists on a mission to drill my teeth to oblivion.
And yeah, ask all the questions.
So first of all, you've been a holistic dentist for how long?
Well actually, being a holistic dentist all my life, straight after university or even at university while still studying, I took courses in homeopathy and so one course then leads to the other, you meet people that do other courses, you go on those courses and so over the time you develop your own protocol, how you approach dentistry, how you approach patients and
Yeah, for me it was always important to look at the entire person and to look at causes why things are actually happening.
And it's exactly what you were just saying with the drilling.
So it's the drill, fill, build kind of dentistry that we're educated into during university and that is what patients then receive.
Yes, exactly.
Did you train in Germany?
You're from Stuttgart, you told me before we started.
Yes, I trained in Germany.
Were you sort of viewed as a kind of fringe, freak area of dentistry at the time?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, when I did all these wacky things, people said, oh, you must be a Scientologist.
So it was all sorts of names I was called because it wasn't mainstream and we know, I mean it's the same nowadays, if you do something outside the mainstream you're a bit a stranger.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was always like that.
However, once you're in it, you get used to it and you just deal with it and you go your own way because, from a soul level, you know that is exactly what you want to do and that is why you're here.
And so, yeah, there are lots of obstacles coming at you and, yeah, you just deal with them.
But also, it must be quite hard attracting customers, because most people don't know that they might need a holistic dentist.
They might go, well, what's wrong with dentists?
I mean, they've been to dental school.
They've got all the qualifications.
They know what they're doing.
Why would I need to go to the fringe?
Well, it's actually quite interesting.
Great question.
We find that a lot of the patients that come to us, they were in a way disillusioned, not only by dentistry, but also by the medical people Well, they have chronic diseases, chronic ailments, and no one can help them.
And then they might research, they might find an article that says, well, have you looked at your teeth for your whatever it is?
And that is what we see, that when we deal with certain issues, chronic issues like skin problems, for example, is a brilliant one.
That is where I made a lot of experience in the first years where we had people remove the mercury fillings and and their skin issues disappeared.
So it's really that people are looking out, that people take responsibility for their health, and then they go on a journey, they search.
And that is how people find us.
And once people have been happy with us, then they tell their neighbors, they tell their friends, And nowadays, very easy on all those social medias where they then can say, well, I had this, I did that, and this is how it's now.
Yeah, well, I think we should, I think we should start with Mercury Funding.
That's a really good one.
I remember about, I think it was about two or three years ago, I had these patron lunches for my super high level patrons and I think it was my lovely friend Anna who said to me, she kind of depressed me after the lunch, she said, James I hate to say it but you realise your health problems are not really going to start going away.
Until you've got rid of your mercury fillings.
And I thought, oh no, no, fillings, I mean, having them put in is bad enough, having them taken out and then put back in again is horrific.
But tell me about, because I think most people of my generation have mercury, amalgam fillings, it's what happened.
Does it still happen all the time or is it being phased out?
It happens all the time and it is phased out.
There was just from the European Parliament a decree that the amalgam fillings have to be phased out, which brought a big uproar on the dental bodies because they say it's the best material, it's the cheapest and the longest lasting.
So let's start from the beginning.
When we were at high school, there was one element that we were told is the most poisonous non-radiating poison on planet Earth.
Which one was it?
Why should it be mercury?
Exactly!
I do remember getting it out and watching the blob roll around and thinking, Quicksilver, this is scary stuff.
One didn't want to touch it.
It strikes me as crazy beyond almost imagining that for how many tens of years, maybe even centuries, people have been putting this stuff in mouths.
Absolutely, yeah.
It's really crazy and it makes people crazy.
Well, we know the Mad Hatter Syndrome, so They actually got the mercury poisoning.
And this is what we see all the time, that people have the mercury fillings and they develop symptoms.
And if you Google symptoms for mercury poisoning, I mean, you're sitting there for days and days.
On the other hand, we can't say, you have this symptom, this is because you have the mercury fillings.
But there are ways of then removing the amalgam fillings very safely and then we'll see that the symptoms disappear.
The problem with amalgam fillings is, other than we're told at university, well, yes, it might be a bit of an issue in its own.
However, when it comes into your mouth, when it's plugged in and when it's solid, then there's no problem.
Well, unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth because the mercury fillings, the mercury amalgam fillings, they release mercury vapour 24-7.
So they release the mercury even more when you chew, when you have hot food, when you smoke, when you have acidic food, when you grind your teeth, when you clench your teeth.
And if you have dissimilar metals in your mouth, let's say you have an amalgam filling and you have a gold crown and oftentimes you don't know you have a gold crown because it looks like a tooth colored one, but underneath There is a core of metal.
So when you have dissimilar metals in your mouth, then it's even more mercury that's leached out from the mercury amalgam fillings, goes into your saliva.
And so oftentimes what we can see is these dark bluish Black areas on the gum where you have this more precious metal.
And that's nothing else than mercury actually depositing into your gum.
Whoa.
Now, that's only one thing.
Then you swallow.
You swallow the mercury vapour, it goes into your lungs, and from your lungs it's in your blood, and from your blood it just goes everywhere.
It crosses the brain blood barrier, it sits in your stomach, it goes into your thyroid, kidneys, spine.
Just everywhere.
I mean, they did a research project many, many years ago in the States where they had sheep and they brought radioactive mercury in their teeth and checked where this is going.
And they found exactly those organs that I just mentioned.
Then they removed the amalgam fillings safely.
And it was still the same.
So the mercury then sits there for a long, long time until it moves out.
And we can't get that old to really be mercury free without helping the mercury to be mobilized and then excreted.
Yes, yes.
Well, that process is called chelation, isn't it?
C-H-E-L.
Well, chelation is one way of doing it.
However, it's very important with a chelation that this is done with someone who knows exactly what they're doing, because there's no one chelation material that only chelates the mercury.
For example, EDTA is a great chelator and they normally use it for lead poisoning.
Some people use it for mercury detoxing but it also binds a lot of other minerals like zinc and zinc is essential for our body and a lot of people are already depleted in zinc.
So it's something that needs to be really very very closely monitored And should really be done with the support of a health practitioner who knows what they're doing.
Okay, so that is because I know that the removal methods of mercury fillings, the amount of vapour that is produced in the process is Well, I mean, it's highly toxic and it gets everywhere, which is an argument I can see for having it removed by a holistic dentist with all the extra equipment.
But then you've just given me another argument that your holistic dentist will also know how to deal with the after effects better.
Absolutely, because that's where we did courses and we really know what works best.
So, for example, when we do the amalgam removal in our clinic, we use vitamin C in a rather high dosage, so that already helps with the elimination of mercury.
However, the great thing about the mercury detox with vitamin C is that vitamin C is not a chelation.
It is a donor, an electron donor, so it can really support the body without affecting other minerals in the way that chelation would do.
Did you, by any chance, listen to my podcast with Boyd Haley?
I hadn't, but I will definitely do because he was actually one of the first from universities who got an interest in mercury and he developed a fantastic remedy to get the mercury out of the body, the OSR.
Yes, exactly and I managed to get hold of some and because I think according to Dr. Dr. Haley and I kind of trust him.
I thought I mean, I would recommend the podcast to anyone interested in this subject.
He's a really splendid man.
He.
Says that of all the collation methods, it's the only one that is capable of penetrating the blood-brain barrier and getting it out of your brain, which is, of course, the worst place where the mercury accumulates in that sort of soft tissue, fatty tissue.
Absolutely.
And this OSR was so good that they put so many hurdles in his way.
He had to because he first sold it as a supplement, I think.
Yes, he did.
And then the FDA said, well, actually, this is not a supplement.
This is a proper drug.
So you need to go through all the trials Which in the end he did he found some sponsors to do that and I mean it was really horrific what they did to to make it make sure he doesn't get it through all those faces but he made it so absolutely fantastic that's that's a really good thing.
Oh he told me so many happy making stories about people with Horrifically debilitating conditions.
People with Parkinson's in wheelchairs who could barely move.
People with Alzheimer's.
Mothers with children with autism induced by vaccines.
And they had remarkable success.
It was being talked about in all the chat rooms that sort of mothers, you know, comparing notes.
And I think that's one of the reasons why the powers that be wanted it banned because it was too, too good.
And that was actually one of my first mind boggling experiences that I had.
And that was in the mid 90s.
There was a mom that came to me with her daughter, 13 year old Christina.
And they were in tears when they were sitting in the waiting room and I came into the waiting room and I couldn't think that this was a 13 year old girl.
She was so bloated, so inflamed and she had a plaster on her left leg.
So they were told that Christina now has to go in a mental institution because she's making all her symptoms up to get there, be institutionalized so that she can think about what she did to herself, to her peers and to her family.
Because the GP and the headmaster, they hadn't had a clue what's actually going on with her and her symptoms.
They started about six months ago, first with memory loss, then she got really anxious, almost suicidal, pain in her head, migraines, her body couldn't cope with any food, she was swelling, retaining water, and so I thought, well, what happened six months ago?
And they said, well, Nothing really.
We don't know.
So I had a look in her mouth.
There was a tiny weeny little black thing there.
And I said, when was she last with a dentist?
And mum said, well, about half a year ago.
And so, what we found then out, because it's not just the mercury that you have in your mouth as a child, it's also what your mum has in her mouth during pregnancy and breastfeeding, because they detox during breastfeeding and pregnancy.
So, for a mum, there's nothing better than a pregnancy to detox.
Which is why the firstborn child tends to suffer most.
Exactly, yeah.
And so we removed very safely this little filling and gave her remedies to detox.
And within half a year she was back at school, one of the brightest sparks.
And yeah, that was absolutely incredible to see this transformation of that young But that's, Elma, that's so lucky that you saw her.
I mean, when they came to see you, did they, they had no idea that it had anything to do with that, obviously.
No, they didn't.
And they only came because we did some wacky things to friends of them, which helped them.
And they thought, well, you're probably the last resort.
And it was only three days until she would be locked up.
So we had to react very quickly.
I called the GP and said, give us three months.
And if we don't succeed in three months, then do whatever you need to do.
And luckily, within the first few weeks, we saw results that were remarkable.
That's fantastic.
So she only had a tiny, tiny filling.
There seemed to be Different people seem to have a different level of sensitivity.
I mean, there are various members of my family, including actually some of my offspring, I might say, who think I've gone completely mad and, you know, just some kind of wacko alternative health freak.
And they've got amalgam fillings and they say, well, it's not doing me any harm.
What can you say to such people?
Well, it might not do them any harm now, Because they're young, they can really compensate.
It's with a lot of toxins, they are summations over the time.
And so, I think from a logical point of view, why would you put one of, well, the most toxic element on planet Earth in your body?
This alone doesn't make sense.
And therefore, having amalgam in your mouth can only be detrimental for you.
And as you rightly say, there are people and there's a genetic disposition whether you can actually detox well or you can't.
And there are, we know, lots of people who have their mouth full of mercury, are in their nineties now, and they're absolutely fine.
Now we also have to say that nowadays when people or when babies are born, they already have more than 200 toxins in their blood, whereas 90 years ago it was definitely not that many.
So we already enter this world with a huge bucket of toxins and we don't need that much on top of it to become sick in some way or the other.
Right, because if you went to a conventional, let's say, dentist, I find that their advice tends to be, you know, just leave your mercury fillings where they are.
They're fine, you know.
You'll do more harm than good taking them out.
Now, does that advice ever apply, would you say?
I mean, do you think if you've got mercury fillings, you should take them out?
Is that your line?
Well, the way they say is absolutely correct.
You'd rather leave them in than drill them out as you drill out composite fillings, for example.
So, if you want to have your mercury fillings removed, you must make sure it's done in a very, very safe way.
Otherwise, I would say, if they can't provide that protocol, which I'll talk in a moment, then don't do it.
And how much, roughly, is it going to cost you to get it done properly, per filling, say?
Well, we charge, depending on the size of the filling, between 340 and 850, 900 pounds, depending on what the replacement is.
Right.
So you can, if it's a smaller filling, you can do a direct composite filling.
And if it's a bigger one, you might need a ceramic inlay or even a crown if there's not much left from the tooth.
Okay.
So the protocol is called SMART because it is a SMART protocol and it stands for Safe Mercury Amalgam Removal Technique.
And it's a protocol that makes sure that not only the patient, but also staff and dentist are protected to the maximum.
So that means the patient is completely covered where special glasses have nasal insufflation of oxygen.
We have special suction, external, internal, and we rinse with activated charcoal.
We give the vitamin C infusions.
So, we really do the best we can according to this protocol.
Because in the end, it's the dentist and the nurse who suffer most, because they're in there All day long.
And the mercury that they drill out, if they don't do it properly, it floats around in the air, then sits down on the ground.
So no way how to sweep this when the cleaner comes in.
It will always stay there.
So if you go into a practice that does mercury, You can be sure that there will be mercury in the room and you will take mercury home with you.
So sell it to me.
Say I'm, you know, I haven't got much money, but I've got my mouth full of amalgam fillings.
What benefits could I expect to see for all this outlay afterwards?
Well, this is something we can't guarantee.
We don't know.
The only thing that we do know is when you do not have any amalgam fillings in your mouth, then you're not getting intoxicated.
Your thyroid will work better.
Your brain very likely be better.
Your digestive system.
It all depends on what are your symptoms now.
How big is the priority that you do anything for your health?
And then we can start with just one filling and do one at a time as your finances make it possible.
Yeah, yeah.
OK, now we've dealt with the biggie, but here's another one.
So fluoride.
Okay, just one point for the replacement of the amalgam fillings.
So, you say, you decide, yes, I have my amalgam fillings out.
Now, you have it replaced with the white ones.
However, you really need to be very careful here, because most of the composite fillings, they also have, as we discussed in a moment, fluoride, they have BPA, they have hormone disruptors in.
You might change one poison for the other.
Oh, great.
Therefore, very, very important that you choose a dentist that can provide a composite that hasn't got any of those materials, ingredients.
OK, so I was somebody somebody.
Forwarded me on my telegram channel I think to this dentist.
I think she's English but she's based in, spent her career in America.
I'm sure you've come across her and she was talking about her protocol for having healthy teeth and avoiding having to see a hygienist because this method dealt with plaque and stuff and it
But part of her treatment involved, she said, I don't like fluoride very much but I do think that regrettably you're going to have to use some Listerine as part of the, you know, she named these various mouthwash products, at least one of which contained fluoride.
I was wondering where you are on this, is fluoride an absolute no-no or does it have any uses at all?
Well, it has a lot of uses.
Just look at the concentration camps where they use it.
It makes the prisoners docile.
So it works pretty well.
- Well, in- - Okay, so it calms you down. - Yeah.
And if you want spotted teeth, then it's also good to use fluoride.
If we look at the history, let's say the city of Basel, for example, in Switzerland, they did water fluoridation for 40 years and they looked at all the data and Switzerland, we know they are very precise.
So, after 40 years, they decided to stop the water fluoridation out of a couple of reasons.
They didn't see any difference in tooth decay in Basel than they did somewhere else in Switzerland.
They also said there's a lack of evidence that the water fluoridation is actually evident.
And we also do, in a way, a mass medication.
So that's not really medical ethical if we look at the Nuremberg trial.
And what they said that everyone must have their own or must make their own decision what they want to bring into their body as a drug, as a supplement or whatever they take.
So there is a lot of evidence out there that fluoride also affects your body.
And like mercury, fluoride is actually a competitor to your iodine.
And that means to your thyroid.
So fluoride, mercury, chlorine, romaine from fire retardant, they all compete with iodine on your thyroid.
And therefore, it's very important that iodine becomes part of your daily supplementation regime.
Water fluoridation, you also don't know how much people drink, so it's, you can't know How much fluoride actually gets in people, then there are people that are more susceptible than not.
And also, more than 90% of the water that is fluoridated is never drunk.
It's used in industry, it's used for washing, for cooking, so it's a huge impact on the environment.
Yeah, I see that.
Okay, so I shouldn't be using that, even a fluoride mouthwash.
Well, the challenge with mouthwashes is they might help in the short term, but long term, because they kill also the good bacteria, they dry out their mouth, especially when they are with alcohol.
The best mouthwash we have is our saliva.
Okay, okay.
And salty water rinse?
Oil pulling?
Ah!
Oh, Elmar, I'm so... you've made... you just made me happy!
Because I was about to say to you, the thing I've just started doing every morning now when I get up, I get some coconut oil and swirl it around my mouth for 10 minutes and then spit it out outside.
You've got to spit it outside because otherwise it'll solidify in your drains.
And it's been fine for me so far apart from the fact that I go out outdoors barefoot and I slipped on the slippery tiles one day and really buggered up my back.
But apart from that I've been... So tell me, does all pulling work?
Oil pulling works, yeah.
It's a really good thing.
It's antibacterial, antimicrobial.
The one thing is, and that's always my question to our patients, how do you finish your oil pulling?
I clean my teeth afterwards.
Only your teeth?
Oh, and sort of the roof of my mouth and my gums.
Brilliant.
And you clean your tongue as well, I guess.
Do you know, I always miss out my tongue.
My son has got one of those tongue scrapers.
Yes, get one too.
Oh, really?
Very, very important because the tongue with this...
fillies.
There are tiny little parts where bacteria can sit.
And if you start scraping your tongue, you will be surprised how much stuff you get off the tongue.
And it's very important, especially before you go to bed, that your whole oral area is clean.
And if you think teeth are only 10% of your mouth, so you really have to clean your gums, you have to clean your the teeth of your cheeks, the palate as you do, And the coming back to the oil pulling is so important that all the oil is out because the oil pulled out toxins.
So if you don't clean properly, all the toxins will be reabsorbed and you just wasted 10 minutes.
So where are these toxins coming from?
Are they just coming from the mouth or does it have a effect beyond that?
Well, it comes out of the gum.
It's like when you have these old pumps in the Wild West where you pump and pump and pump and it takes a while until the water flows.
This is how I explain it.
This is how oil pulling works.
And that's the reason why doing oil pulling only for two minutes doesn't really do anything.
Right.
OK.
So I sort of intuitively sense that it's a good thing.
Are we going to feel any benefits?
What are the toxins it's pulling out?
Well, bacteria, endotoxins from bacteria.
And what I found when I did it 20 years ago, I did it for about four months or so, and overnight, after three months or so, my teeth almost overnight became much brighter, to my total surprise.
I noticed this when I've just spat out the oil, my teeth look lovely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a great way to do it and it's so cheap, it's natural, it's healthy, you don't bring any nasty bits into your system.
So yeah, keep going.
Okay, so that's oil pulling done.
Now what about electric toothbrush versus hand toothbrush?
Well, whatever is more convenient for you.
The main thing is that most people don't brush long enough.
And whether they don't brush long enough with an electric or with a manual doesn't really matter.
I always say jokingly, you only need to brush the ones you want to keep.
And so if you have a lot of teeth left, then you need at least, at the very, very least two minutes to clean them properly.
Okay, so one of the things I've picked up from this dentist woman whose name I can't remember is that you start off sort of brushing the gums in a sort of upward stroking motion.
So you're massaging the gums before you get to the teeth, is that right?
Well, there are many different ways and the major thing is that one discovers a way so that they really know they've done the brushing because some people They stay in the bathroom, they do something else, they shave or read something, and they haven't got a clue where the toothbrush actually works.
So I think it's important to do one task and brush your teeth and nothing else, because only then you know that you brushed everywhere you need to brush.
Brush mindfully, as I suppose they'd put it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
What... I find that despite my best efforts, particularly behind those teeth there, I get plaque build-up quite quickly.
And I can sort of scrape it off with my fingernail sometimes.
But what... I mean, hygienists are so bloody expensive and so hard to get appointments with.
Is there any other way of avoiding this plaque build-up?
You won't like what I'm saying.
Get rid of your amalgam fillings.
Because it's really about a disbalance that you have in your mouth.
People who have had their mercury fillings out and go to a more balanced lifestyle, they don't need a dental hygienist.
Oh, I've got, I've had my, I had my, I had my amalgam fillings out, but not with an holistic dentist.
And I must say, I mean, although he was jolly nice and it was, it was, you know, about, about seven days after, I felt really really shit.
I mean, I you know, I definitely had a bad reaction.
Yeah, and and I suppose luckily I've had access to that Boyd Haley magic formula, which is probably got rid of it.
I mean, I think I think do you know what I do think that my so-called Lyme disease symptoms or whatever, you know, they've become much less frequent since I've I suspect that Lyme disease and mercury poisoning, they're all on a sort of spectrum of, you know, they work with one another.
Yeah.
But yes, okay, what else can I do?
What about that xylitol?
Well, xylitol is Great for the bacteria.
They love it and they can't metabolize it.
So they pop in a way.
So it's a good one.
However, I wouldn't overemphasize it.
Otherwise people just live on Xylitol.
So a little bit is definitely good to have or to use in your oral health regime.
I don't use it.
And it's about a balanced diet.
And so that you do not have the buildup anymore.
And that's what we see with most of our patients, that once the toxins are removed, metals out of the mouth, then as soon as the mouth is really healthy, you don't have much of a buildup.
Right.
Okay.
How do you take xylitol?
I mean, are you saying basically chewing gum or are there other ways you can take it?
Well, some of the dental products like toothpaste, they have xylitol in them and you can make your own toothpaste and just add a little bit of xylitol to that.
So use hydrogen peroxide, 3%, a bit of Celtic sea salt, Himalayan salt, and mix that to a paste and then brush your teeth so you know exactly what's in there.
You can put some vitamin C, some essential oils with it.
That's a good idea.
But how does one get the recipe for that?
You go on my YouTube channel.
I did that, I think, 10, 15 years ago.
I did a little video clip, show all the ingredients.
And yeah, it's very, very easy to do.
And you know exactly what you put in.
OK.
Because at the moment, I don't use fluoride toothpaste.
I use that fennel flavoured, you get it from health food shops, what's it called?
You must know the one.
There are so many.
Oh, OK.
But they're OK, aren't they?
Yeah, as long as there is no fluoride in it, no sodium laureth sulfate and any other nasties.
You want one that hasn't got any glycerine in because that coats the teeth so the goodies from the toothpaste can't get to the tooth.
There's still, other than the fluoride, a couple of other ingredients that you want to avoid.
Right.
Okay.
Now tell me about gum recession.
Is there anything that one can do to kind of heal it or, you know?
The question is, what is the reason for the gum recession?
And there are mainly two reasons.
One is from inflammation and the other is mechanical.
Now the inflammation You can see it when the gum is red, when the gum is swollen, maybe even pus is coming out.
So that is something where you need to address the underlying issues.
And gum disease, just like tooth decay, they are systemic diseases.
If you have a gum disease, you also have a gut disease.
So that is all coming together.
We know that there's the oral microbiome, there's the gut biome and there's also the connection, the gut-brain connection.
So this is all interconnected and therefore just doing a local scraping, deep cleaning or whatever we call it in dentistry.
This is just a symptomatic treatment.
What you need to do is get your gut sorted so that that has the right microbiome and then the oral microbiome will also benefit from that.
And of course, you want to do a local treatment when you have pus.
You can use ozone.
From the dentist.
He goes into those pockets and the ozone then kills the bacteria in there.
That works very well.
You can use an ozonated cream to do that.
But the main thing is to look at the underlying issues.
The second one, the mechanical one, is if your teeth are not in harmony.
So when you bite together, you move your teeth to the left, to the right, to the center, then there might be this tooth getting too much of pressure.
And therefore, the periodont, the area or the tissue that holds the tooth in the socket in the jawbone, that gets overloaded and then it reacts with recession.
Right.
So it's two reasons why that happens.
Okay.
Now, this is not one for me, at least at the moment, but this crops up quite a lot in some of the discussion groups I'm in.
Um...
Where are you on, what's it called, when you have the root canal?
Root canal, that's a biggie.
Okay, so dentistry is the only part of medicine that thinks Having a dead organ in the body is good.
Everywhere else in medicine, if you have an appendix that rots, they take it out.
If you have a gangrene toe, it will be cut off because it will intoxicate the entire body.
With a root canal, they think it's different.
Now, the challenge with root canals is that, especially when you have a molar tooth, one of those big teeth that have three, four or five roots, then they have four or five main channels.
And there are specialists, endodontists, who do a fabulous job in removing the pulp, the nerve, the arteries, all the stuff that's in the pulp.
Now, the challenge here is that a tooth exists of far more channels than just those main channels.
Some people, researchers, say that is two to three miles of tiny little channels inside your tooth.
And the other challenge is that you can't make that sterile.
So they took a root canal treated tooth and put it through industrialized sterilization, then they opened the tooth and they still found lots and lots of bacteria.
So for bacteria it's an ideal hiding place because nothing gets there and all those Solutions that you use whilst you do the root canal treatment, they just don't penetrate the tooth to an extent that we can say it's bacteria free.
And even if it would do that, once you stop the treatment, because laser can do a lot, ozone can do a lot, but as soon as you stop that, the bacteria will migrate back in and you still have the issue.
Now that's on a, let's say, on a physical area.
If we then look into the bigger scope of things, and this is where it then becomes holistic even more, the Chinese They know acupuncture for thousands of years.
They know there are energy pathways through the body and every single tooth, every single tooth is connected to one of those energy pathways.
So, for example, your front teeth, your front teeth, upper and lower, the four front teeth, they are connected to your kidneys, your bladder, your genital system.
What that means is that when you have a dead tooth or a root canal treated tooth, that energy on this meridian, on this energy pathway, can be reduced or even blocked.
Which means that you have a root canal in your mouth and that has an effect on those correlated meridians.
And therefore, we think that root canals, to be really healthy, would be a good idea to have them removed.
Right.
Sorry, I don't even know what a root canal is.
A root canal is, let's say you hurt your tooth, a tooth is broken and the nerve is exposed to help the tooth to leave the tooth inside or the rest that is there.
The dentist removes the Pulp, the pulp is the area in the middle of the tooth where you have the nerve, where you have all the blood coming in, the lymph vessels.
So that will be cleaned.
The tooth actually will be killed.
Life will be taken away from it.
So then they fill a mass into this channel.
And a lot of the times this is not really the most natural thing that goes in there.
And then they rebuild the tooth.
Often they put a metal post in and then a crown to hold it.
Okay.
So is it, is it possible to undo that?
I think over the years we will discover that we find ways with stem cell therapy that we can bring back life into teeth.
At the moment, I haven't seen anything like that happen.
So, at the moment, if you've had a root canal, you're stuck with it?
Yes.
But your advice would be, don't, if your dentist tells you you need one?
Yes.
It's also a question how we approach the tooth.
Because if you have, for example, a deep decay, and if the decay is removed all at once, you might end up in the nerve.
So our approach is then to remove as much as we can without getting in the nerve, putting a temporary filling there, and then give it three or six months.
Because in those three to six months, we then hope and most of the time it happens, that the nerve retracts a bit and it builds a, we call it bridging, so it builds more dentine.
The tooth is constructed out of three layers.
You have the enamel on the outside, then the dentine on the inside and towards the root there's the cement.
So the body then builds more of the dentine between the pulp and the tooth decay.
And when we then go in after three to six months, we can remove more of the decay.
Yeah, I would say almost A lot of the times we can then remove all of the tooth decay and then put a filling in and this way we've saved the tooth.
Right.
This is when you have tooth decay.
Now, when you have a trauma, it's a different story.
You then need to decide probably on the spot what you want to do.
And it's the same with mercury.
You don't drop dead the next day when you have a root canal.
And there are people who are really robust and they live with their root canals until a very, very long age.
However, nowadays we have so many people who are medically compromised that they They can't deal with much more.
And the real challenge is for the health practitioner, for the GP, then to connect the dots that when they have a root canal on a tooth that is correlated, let's say, to the prostate and they have a prostate issue, no one knows.
No one looks at the teeth.
So dentistry is still such an outsider in holistic overall health, which is incredible because for me, I would say dentistry is actually central to your overall health.
So what about if the tooth is irreparable?
What's the holistic way of dealing with that?
I mean if you've got to extract it.
Do you put a bridge in instead or what?
Or an implant?
You have different options.
The least invasive option would be a denture.
Because with a denture you just take an impression and you have one tooth on the denture and you can click that in just a tiny little denture to replace that tooth.
How does it fit in?
It holds with little clasps on the neighbour teeth.
And then the next option one, if it's a back area, some patients even say, well, I'm not really bothered.
I'll see how I go and I'll leave the gap for the time being.
Second option is a bridge.
Now, with a bridge, you need to know that for a bridge, as we know, bridges, they need two retainers, one on the front, one on the back, and then in between is the bridge.
If you have The two teeth either side of the gap without any filling.
So you, in a way, sacrifice those teeth because the dentist needs to drill away a lot of the substance of those teeth to make the bridge fit, which means there's a trauma to the teeth.
The teeth can become sensitive and worst case they can die.
And then you either need a root canal or you have the teeth out.
So drilling a tooth always needs to be done very, very carefully because it's a living substance.
And another option would be an implant.
An implant is an artificial root that is placed into the jawbone and then you bring in a crown onto that implant.
Therefore, you don't need to drill on the neighbor teeth.
However, you have a artificial material in your jawbone.
And that brings us.
Shall we go on with implants?
Yes, please.
I want to know.
OK, so for most of my career, I didn't advocate implants because most implants, they were Titanium.
And we know that titanium interacts with your jawbone.
We take a lot of titanium implants out and most of the time we can see that there is a lot of infection around those implants because the titanium interacts with the jawbone.
And that means that there is a toxic element in your jawbone, which can then also create issues with your overall health.
And that's what we see a lot of the times, that people just don't react nicely with their metal implants.
And also, the body doesn't really crave implants.
It doesn't say, give me more of that titanium.
And people, a lot of people who lose teeth also have overall health compromises.
They have chronic issues and to add something like a titanium implant onto their health, I think is a very questionable approach.
Unfortunately, most dentists who do implants, especially the titanium implants, they don't have that wider view on the things that the implants do.
Now, it's said that The implants incorporate, osseointegration is the word, that they integrate into the bone very nicely.
Well, I have to tell that with the implants that we see is most of the times not the case.
We can unscrew the implants a lot of the times, and that means that they haven't really integrated properly.
And over the last few years, there have been ceramic implants and zirconia implants coming, and I was still not convinced that this is the right way to go, because we still saw people not dealing very well with their ceramic or zirconia implants.
However, over the last three years, we have developed a way to reduce stress in our patients' systems.
And every person that comes to us for surgery has what we recommend, that they do what we call biophoton therapy.
But it includes much, much more than just the biophoton therapy, which works with mirrors.
So we include into that therapy the emotion code from Dr. Bradley Nelson and the German new medicine from Gertrude K. Hamer.
And we dive really, really deeply into blocked emotions, because that, for me nowadays, is one of the major reasons why people get sick.
They have blocked emotions, they have blocked emotions where they get the implant, where they have the root canal or whatever happened there, and so we release those blocked emotions and then the healing is much much better and especially people can then incorporate the implants much better.
I would still never ever ever ever do a metal implant, only zirconia implants.
And we found a supplier in Switzerland and a dentist in the UK who has a lot of experience.
And so for our healthier clientele, we now also offer the implants.
I'm still reluctant with people who have multiple chronic issues.
I think they should be dealt with earlier before they get another part in their body that might possibly interact with their overall health.
So that's the great thing about a bespoke approach to patient's health.
We can always check, test how the body Did you see me wincing slightly when you were talking about titanium?
the reason why we test our composite materials.
We have three composite materials that are absolutely fine in terms of ingredients, and still on the day of the treatment, we test which one is best for the patient.
Right.
Did you see me wincing slightly when you were talking about titanium?
I've got this bloody great titanium thing from there to there.
I hope it's not...
It's probably poisoning me, isn't it?
Well, it doesn't really matter where the implant, the titanium implant is.
And I know from not personal, but family experience where they had a tailor frame, which is a frame you put in when you lengthen extremities.
And the frame was in, was titanium.
And when it came out, and even during the process of having this frame, I think they had six or eight of these big screws in the leg, there was always an issue, always some pus coming out.
And in the end, when they took it out, it never really healed.
So they had to have a surgery in a special clinic in Vienna.
It took four hours to clean the bone of exactly what we see in the jawbone.
It's horrendous.
Oh, bugger.
Should I have it out or not?
Well, talk with your surgeon because it's there for a reason.
The question is, does it still have to be there?
No, it doesn't.
No, no.
And what are the risks?
What can be the complications when you take it out?
Is it just a matter of taking it out and having it heal?
And so that's... Well, I'll have to do it after the hunting season's over anyway.
That's another matter.
Okay, so what have I not asked?
What key things have I not asked you?
I found this utterly fascinating, by the way.
You're really... I'm sad that I had you on.
But there's one...
bit that we haven't touched and that is children nowadays still when kids have a bit of a crowding in their teeth the dentist says oh yeah let's see how he goes come back when they are 12 or 13 and we'll have another look So, mum comes back when they're 12 or 13 years old and the dentist says, oh, they're still crowded.
So now we have to take four teeth out.
And mum says, well, they're healthy teeth.
Well, yeah, we have to create space.
This is the first nonsense, because you don't create space when you take teeth out, because that space is used to bring the others in place.
Our approach is different.
We start very early.
A. We really encourage mums to breastfeed.
To breastfeed properly and long enough.
Because with the breastfeeding, the child, the baby, really starts developing their jawbone.
By having the nipple between the palate and the tongue, this Pushing this, pressing this, sucking, gives information to the palate to start the growing.
And also, by properly breastfeeding, the kids start to swallow properly, they start to breathe properly, they are less likely to have any sinus issues, asthma, food intolerances or gut issues.
And when we see kids around five, six years old, and they have a tendency to what we call a malocclusion, because the teeth don't come together properly, or there's a crowding, we start them out already with some simple exercises, with some simple devices, so that by the age of 12, They have created that space that we need to bring all the teeth in place.
So, so important.
And that can take so much trauma off the kids.
Because the funny thing is, when they get their braces with 13, 14, this is a time when the teenager wants to break out.
And actually he's put into prison with these train tracks.
Yes, that's true.
And the other thing is, when you put these train tracks in, you kind of fixate the right and the left hemisphere of your skull, which also means that the bones in your skull don't have that movement anymore.
So if you do that, please, please see a cranial osteopath so that they can help with that movement.
And again, this is the reason why we are more towards the myofunctional therapy, because it's the muscles that actually do the damage or the good.
When we get the teeth aligned, the muscle relaxed is so important.
It's also important to check if the child has a tongue tie, because if there's a tongue tie, they can't move the tongue properly.
They can't bring the tongue in the position where it actually should be, therefore making it very, very difficult to swallow properly and to sleep properly.
So they probably sleep with their mouth open.
And that's already very bad for your oral microbiome, because this way your mouth dries out.
And that is more likely than to cause tooth decay.
So there's a lot of things that we need to look at and breathing is a very, very, very big one.
And hardly anyone breathes properly.
Do you know, one of the great improvements in my health is I've been taping up my mouth at night for the last 10 years.
And my goodness, you notice if you don't do it.
You feel terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have we sort of more or less covered the basis now, would you say?
Anything else?
What else?
Oral hygiene, we mentioned that.
So people can really produce their own toothpaste.
Flossing.
Tell me about flossing.
Yeah, flossing, absolutely, because the bristles of your toothbrush don't get in those areas.
The main thing is that you get taught to do it correctly, properly, other than just putting the floss down into the area between the teeth.
That can really hurt because you then Hit the papilla so you need to really learn to do it correctly and I recommend to use a silk a silk floss because the silk floss hasn't got any plastic in it.
And there's research now that the plastic from the floss can actually go into your gum.
And there's so much things that we need to research with these microplastics.
I think that will be the next biggie because people or researchers already discover those in the bloodstream of people.
Where do you get silk floss from?
There's a lady in Canada who sells it worldwide, KMH.
What's her name?
I think it's KMH Solutions, something like that.
Silk.
And she has a whole bunch of different, very ecological-friendly Devices.
OK.
She's actually on my podcast, one of my podcasts.
OK.
So if you want to listen to anything like that, I think the podcast is a great way of looking for answers because we're a really bespoke practice.
So if if someone wants To ask questions, I really, really encourage them to have a look first in the podcast.
Listen to them.
The whole area of dentistry is covered there.
I'm pretty sure that they find a solution and the answer.
And we also on our website have a frequently asked question area.
So, yeah.
Or another thing is buy that book.
Shut your mouth.
That's a very excellent bit of product placement there, Omar.
There's a saying among regulars of this show, that if the podcast lasts only an hour, it normally means that it's been a bad experience.
But I would say that this hour-long podcast is very much the exception.
I think you've been fantastic and I'm so glad you suggested yourself as a potential guest.
You've been fascinating.
Please tell people where they can find your website and your other stuff.
Well, the website is www.drdeltaromeo-elmar-eco-limar-mike-alpha-romeo-jung.
That's Julia Uniform November Golf dot com.
We're based in.
and In Southampton.
And just one thing with my name.
We had a patient the other day.
And if you look at Jung, you normally spell it Jung.
And he came in and said to me, oh, my God, you're not Chinese.
Oh, you are spelled with a Y.
No, I'm spelled with a J.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most people say Chung, and he thought, oh Chung, that must be a Chinese.
Oh, I see.
No, I was thinking the other thing.
I was thinking, are you some kind of descendant of the psychologist?
Yes, my grand grandad.
Really?
I would love to say that in honesty, but unfortunately it's not.
No, you wouldn't actually.
I think, I mean, look, psychiatry is a whole, you know, it's a rabbit hole and it's, no, it's used by the enemy to control us.
It's not a good thing.
No, I'm he's from Switzerland.
I'm from Germany.
So, okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, well, thank you also for laying the ghost of one of my previous guests who happened to be German and was slightly slightly humorless didn't really get you really didn't get me at all and it kind of you know, it was kind of orcs.
Anyway, I would love to to say something else in terms of what we offer with the with the holistic treatment because I think this is this is where Especially your audience might really resonate with that we see disease, whether that's in the teeth or in our body.
This is something, A, we created ourselves, and B, it's a sign of our, I would even say, soul to show us, please, Elmar, have a look
Because it's no coincidence that we develop tooth decay on the upper right canine tooth, if we are very aggressive or we suppress our aggression, because that tooth is connected with the liver, with the eyes, and this is our, so to say, aggressive tooth.
So I think it's very, very important that we, A, obviously take responsibility for our health, and look at diseases in a way that they just signal us, hello, something's not quite right.
Please, please, please have a look.
Otherwise, I need to send you something else.
Is that the upper right canine, that one there?
Yeah, it's the third from the middle.
Yeah, the really spiky one.
I don't have... So, obviously, aggression is not my problem.
No, my one's... Is the back one there?
What's that?
What does that mean?
The back one on the top is stomach and pancreas.
Oh, right.
And that's connected with emotions like what can't use stomach, what's on your stomach, these kind of things.
So it's fascinating to look into that correlation of teeth, organs, emotions.
And yeah, as I said, I'm pretty sure that when we uncover and unleash those blocked emotions, and Sam Cooper, who does that treatment in our clinic, she's absolutely brilliant.
And people probably know about entities and all sorts of funny critters.
We can remove all these things as well.
And so it can be done remotely.
We have patients all over the world who just call for that kind of treatment.
And I think this is actually the future to make sure that we release our blocked emotions so that we can actually flourish.
That's great.
I love it.
I love all this kind of crazy... I mean, I'm really into it.
Elmer, thank you so much.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
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