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To my special guest, Abby Roberts.
I like your glasses, Abby.
Thank you, my love.
Yeah, they're kind of new-ish.
I like your setup.
Thank you.
I wasn't going to waste any time in pre-chat because it gets lost, lost forever.
Yeah, I agree.
I wanted, first of all, to apologise for not having shaved.
Normally, I shave for my guests.
Especially if they're lady guests.
I like to shave for ladies.
Well, then you don't need to shave for me because as you know, darling, I'm not a lady and all those jokes.
Can you see my suntan?
I can see your suntan.
Have you been to Greece, haven't you?
I've been to Greece, yeah.
And I've come back refreshed but actually feeling quite Abbie Roberts.
Oh, okay.
Explain.
Describe that feeling.
I always feel that you and one or two others, Bob for example, Bob the cartoonist, Bob Moran and Alastair Williams are like my hardcore conscience.
That whenever I'm being a bit soft, you're there in the wings with your spears jabbing me.
Prodding you!
Yeah, prodding me, saying, stop being such a lightweight, James.
Be more angry.
Be more uncompromising.
Be more unforgiving.
I mean, obviously, we're all Christians, but yeah.
Don't tolerate.
Suffer fools less gladly.
Yes.
And I'm really feeling that at the moment.
I've come back... I'll tell you what inspired this thought.
As you know, when you go on holiday, you have... I love Greece so much.
Particularly, I've just been to the Marni.
The Marni.
And a sharkling very, very kindly lent me her house.
Wow, it was so kind.
It was so I don't embarrass her by naming her.
That's lovely.
But but the but you know her she's very lovely and and it's just.
Even though we know that the world is going to hell in a handcart and that we're all doomed.
I mean off in the off.
We've got the afterlife which is going to be great.
But this this Earth I think is you know, we're not going to we're not going to get out of this one.
Yeah, I think we've set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
It's pretty fucked.
It's pretty it is and One of the consolations of being simultaneously blessed and cursed with the knowledge that we awake people have, one of the few blessings, is the people we've met.
The people that we, the awake, they're such, it's like, it's a privilege being with these people and their generosity and their wisdom and their I don't know, their Viking spirit, their happy warrior-dom is a joy.
Anyway, so I'm in Greece.
In Marni.
In the Marni, which I'm afraid is the best part of Greece.
I've been all over and the Marni, actually Mount Athos is pretty good, but in a different way.
But I can't go.
When I went to Mount Athos though, do you know what?
On the boat over from the port, you sort of chug over there on a little fishing boat type thing, there was definitely a girl disguised as a boy.
Really?
Yeah, definitely.
So that's where the trans activists might come in handy.
If I suddenly say, I identify as someone who wants to go to Mount Athos.
I can't see any trans activists wanting to go to... Can you imagine?
Really, really not.
It's just like anathema to them.
As you know, Mount Athos, that animals, even female animals, let alone female humans, have been banned since the era of the Emperor Constantine.
Wow, didn't that include female insects?
That'll be quite difficult because bees love grease.
They can't really control the insects but in so far as they control the animal kingdom.
The animal kingdom, yes.
Anyway, sorry, I'm digressing as I always do.
So, you go to these lovely villages with lovely Greeks in them and serving you, all these tavernas, serving you these delicious homemade Greek Greek meals.
The food was so good throughout.
And you're thinking, these are the people that the evil ones, the powers that be, the predator class, as I call them, want to deny a living because they want to stop people like you and me want to deny a living because they want to stop people like you and me traveling around the world, They want to stop.
I'll give you an example of this.
So, you and I know, and everyone who was awake knows, that the whole Islamic terrorists are going to blow us up thing was a lie.
The whole thing about the shoe bomber was a lie.
It was just, he was a patsy.
The whole thing about liquids on aeroplanes was designed not to protect you, but purely to make travelling more difficult and unpleasant for you.
Yes.
So you think about that.
When you go to Greece, what do you want to bring back?
What are the two things you want to bring back?
Well, Greek herbs I bought back when I was last there, and, um, oh, lemons!
I was given a lemon by a guy, a local guy who picked it, and I brought it back with me, and it smelt, my whole kitchen smelt of zest for about three weeks.
But you know that sort of thing is unmistakable, that lovely, fresh, zesty thing.
What would you bring back?
It's so much, well, lemons, I agree, are so much better out there than they are here.
No, I'm thinking of the two things one wants to bring back from Greece.
Feta?
Oh yeah, olive oil.
The feta isn't so much better in grease than it is in... I mean, it's better, but it's not the sort of thing that you feel, I must get some feta in grease because the stuff I get at home won't be edible.
No.
Olive oil and honey.
Oh honey, yes!
What do those things have in common?
They're liquid.
So, unless you want to go through the rigmarole of checking in your baggage, it means you basically cannot bring back olive oil or honey.
So it means that all the honey producers by the road and all the olive oil producers by the road, which hitherto would have been able to sell you their wares and make a living without the middleman, without having to sell it to a supermarket, just directly to the consumer, their standard of living is lowered because of this rule that was invented by the enemy, by the past that be, by the evil one.
In order to to make our lives more miserable.
It's just when you it's instances like that and the restaurants that the restaurants that soon I would say what within the next two or three years are not going to be able to make a living because travel is going to be effectively banned.
Yeah.
The immiseration of humanity by this tiny, tiny, satanic, elite is the wrong word, but this satanic class who hate us and just want to... Overlords.
It's a bit like when I was bad at school, when I was in my prep school, and I hope God forgives me for this, I used to burn ladybirds with... With a mirror?
With a magnifying glass, you know.
I did it once or twice, and I hate myself for it.
You know, you get flashbacks and things.
Anyway, but these people do all the time, but not to ladybirds, but to actual humans and babies, which they use to harvest for adrenochrome and stuff.
They are so evil.
That's why I despise all the politicians, and I mean all of them, anyone in the House, because the lockdowns, what they did to ordinary people, not us middle class people who can afford to go to nice holidays, the people, the working man, the person that has a low paid job, who was intimidated into doing what they were told, including with the jabs.
I will never forgive that.
I'll never forgive them for what they did.
To the equivalent of the man, the Greek man, selling honey and olive oil by the side of the road.
It's kind of biblical, the evil that's been done.
It is biblical evil.
And I teased you before the podcast, I said, did you remember to learn your psalm?
And I was hoping you were going to go, What?
Was I supposed to learn a psalm?
I didn't remember that.
No.
Which psalm was it?
But you didn't do that, you just said... No.
I think I said, forgive me, Father, for I hath learnt fockle psalms, was what I replied to you.
You did say that.
I did say that.
There is a... I don't know whether you've been listening to my psalms series, but there is a line in Psalm 139.
Which goes, Will thou not slay the wicked, O God?
Depart from me, ye bloodthirsty men.
And there's an element in Christianity where we are encouraged to turn the other cheek and to abjure the, what are known as the imprecatory psalms, the ones that encourage God to get medieval on people, well actually get Old Testament on baddies.
But I have to say, I identify more and more with the line in that psalm.
I think that what is going on in the world, things are reaching such a pitch of evident evil, that A, I find it hard not to want to call down divine fury on these evildoers, but B, I find it
Increasingly hard to be even tolerant of the people who are going, la la la, well, the pendulum will swing the other way sometime and we'll get a government which will realize that actually this is all a big mistake.
It ain't happening.
It ain't happening.
This is planned.
Even though I always say to people, you know, what bit of science did you need to understand to realise that coercion and taking people's lives away was in any way immoral?
I mean, you don't need to have a scientific background or need to know anything at all about the periodic table to know that subjugation of human beings is evil and wrong.
That surely, surely isn't that sort of the first principle of where we should start.
I always think we get muddled up in this whole kind of, well, you know, I didn't know this at that time and I didn't realise this and really for two and a half years when you had people like yourself and then myself as I kind of joined the, my eyes were ding, open.
I think we have to be very careful that we don't treat the last... I mean, let's just use the last three years, even though I know it goes back much further than that, the evil.
But it's not buying the wrong length of curtains from John Lewis.
I mean, I've spoken to cab drivers, that's the most middle class thing I think I've ever said in my life, but I've spoken to cab drivers, you know, because I do a podcast, Abbey Daily, and as part of it, I've spoken to people for the last two years, but just anyone I meet, I get talking to them and they then tell me their story, whatever it is, I let them tell it.
And some of the stuff, like there was a guy before I started recording that came on to do this, I remember vividly, I've got this story in my head that won't leave me, James, and it's, I was told this by a London cabbie, he lives in the East End and there was a guy called Ted, 67 years old, used to work I think for British Leyland, didn't smoke, didn't drink, You know, put all his own windows into his house.
So, you know, very practical like they were back in those days.
So a very upright man, you know, man of the community.
And then they started to notice that he was wearing a high-vis... This is when his curtains were open.
The neighbours started to realise he was wearing a high-vis jacket and would sort of slump onto his sofa.
And then...
Then they saw him one day, Ted, walking, this is in 20, I think beginning of, end of 21, beginning of 22, so he's walking along with one shoe off and one shoe on, so one bare foot, smoking, clearly he'd been drinking, and then we cut to, they see that his doors open one day, and then this is the cab driver telling me, so him and the neighbours go in, and Ted has died face down,
In his own living room, surrounded by buckets of his own piss.
And there's bottles of alcohol and overflowing ashtrays.
That is why I despise...
Anyone who was in any remote positions of power in a voter commons, whether they're MPs or doctors.
I hate them.
I loathe them.
I remember I listened to that podcast Abby and it was absolutely horrifying and very moving and isn't it weird that we've we've collectively You airbrushed that period.
Yeah.
Out of history.
Yeah.
It's as if it never happened except there's just enough of the legacy of the fear for them to get ready for the next round of this new strain.
Apparently they've identified a new strain which particularly affects children, which was weirdly enough Boris Johnson predicted when he's saying, you know, it would be particularly worrying if there were a new strain.
Yes.
That affected and amazingly Boris Johnson with his with his classics degree from Oxford.
Yeah.
Just like, intuited, I suppose.
Probably juvenile or somebody would have written some epigram, which enabled Boris to be able to predict.
Yes, Cassandra.
He is the Tory Cassandra.
One thing I was going to say to you is, you know, funnily enough, I was thinking about Graham Hancock, which isn't some kind of niche fetish that I've got.
No, I like the segue.
The segue is good because in his program about ancient civilizations there's one line that stood out for me and he says he thinks that part of humanity's problem is that we've got amnesia.
So we, things happen, and then we sort of all go, we're like goldfish, we go, oh, that's so, oh, blimey.
So, and it's weird that, I was thinking about this last three years, what, what is it that has stopped people looking back?
To atrocities that have happened in various countries, not usually, we're not usually talking about the West, but you know, China, Soviet Union and those places.
Why haven't the parallels been made?
Uh, by people that, you know, should, should know that these, that they should be, you know, that there's a kind of, that there's a weird thing that we find ourselves in.
Because of our collective amnesia, even though it was the first part of the 20th century, first, you know, 45, 50 years of the 20th century and more in the Soviet Union, why haven't we gone, oh, that's, that's funny.
We seem to be experiencing some of the same things, you know, uh, being told to stay at home.
God is bad.
Oh, that's funny, because isn't that what they did under Stalin?
You see what I mean?
It's odd.
Why aren't more people saying, I mean, when I say more people, people like us, I mean, we're saying it, but thinkers.
I always think, I agree with you about Jordan Peterson, Murray, Sam Harris.
What use is a first class education, James?
If you're not able to... I mean, God, I went to Swansea.
I was thinking about you because I was going to tell you, I got offered a place at Cambridge.
I know all your viewers and listeners will be shocked to buggery by that.
I was offered a place at Cambridge to read Russian and Italian and, you know, what do you call it?
Unconditional.
Because my interview was so good.
In fact, he actually said to me, I very rarely do I meet somebody that's the guy doing the interview.
I wish you'd gone.
Yeah, but the thing is, I'm glad I didn't, because then I think I would be one of them.
I mean, maybe not, because you didn't turn into one of those.
And then I fucked up my A-levels so badly because I was, this may surprise you to know, James, I was quite a party girl, and I think I just didn't even take one of them.
I think I just went, what the hell?
Which is awful.
And then went to Swansea, which is where my heritage is, my Welsh heritage, my dad's Welsh.
And so it was sort of like led me into these, and then went to Moscow to study at the Conservatoire, you know, to do the opera, and then met the man that baptised me, this is 1990, into the Orthodox Church.
So I'm thinking to myself, would that have happened if I'd gone to Cambridge?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure it would.
I think I would have been so obsessed with passing exams and going, I must please my tutor.
I must learn.
You know what I mean?
I think I just don't think... I think it's weird how you... Because sometimes I look back and think, I have done in the past and gone, oh, that was really silly to mess up your A-levels.
Oh, Abs, you know, it was a good opportunity.
You know, why did you fuck it up?
But actually, weirdly, I'm really glad I did.
There are some things, you know, you fuck up in life and you go, that's great!
Because it, you know, led me to all sorts of kind of interesting things later on.
I'm totally with you.
I...
I'm in the business of not having regrets.
Yeah.
Because I think that they're all part of God's plan.
I don't think I would have... There's the odd thing I regret.
For example, I would recommend anyone who breaks their collarbone in a hunting accident not to have a pin put in.
Is that what happened to you?
Yeah, a few years ago.
Yes, I had a I had a one of those titanium plates because it was a really bad bus.
But actually it's not good.
I think that that our bodies were not designed to have bits of metal put in them.
I think surgeons just love doing surgery.
They'd like nothing better than getting surgery because it just makes them loads of money.
Yeah, exactly.
But actually what I didn't realize at the time They don't, because they don't tell you.
I thought, well, all the bits of, do I want all this splintered, splintered bone in there?
Yeah.
What they don't, what they don't tell you is that it all dissolves.
It all, it all goes and, and, and the bone knits.
And okay, so maybe it's not like it was before, but it, it doesn't, you don't need, I don't think, a titanium plate.
But apart from that.
Yeah.
The odd other thing.
I think that one shouldn't be in the business of regrets because actually all ones... I think that my misfortunes, all the bad things, were probably what made me a better person.
I mean, that's not exactly controversial.
Suffering and hardship, it makes you down with the ordinary people and makes you realize that you're no better than anybody else.
We're all made in God's image and stuff.
Yeah.
I was thinking, you know, that on the 9th of September, what's that, four or five days ago, is the anniversary of the murder of the priest who baptised me, Father Alexander Min.
So he was a, when I went there in 1990, I was an atheist and then I, I think I've told this before, and had this amazing sort of, well it sounds overdramatic, I saw icons in the bedroom, I was saying, and just sort of thought, and my first thought was, not all good is visible.
And I wrote that down in my little diary, my little pretentious sort of student-y diary, and went, not all good.
And I've looked at that since and thought, Gosh, I sort of, I was on my little, I was on my path, on my little way there, then, and then I met Father Alexander.
He's the first Christian martyr in Russia.
So he, when he, he was murdered by an axe, so he was on his way to give the Sunday service, and then, and, sorry I've forgotten the correct word for it, but
Sonny Service at his church in Novaya Derevnya, so like not that far from Moscow, and somebody apparently asked him, this is what they think happened, asked him the time, and then the second person, perpetrator, whacked him over the head with a sapper's spade, which is like a sort of axe, isn't it?
It's a sort of army thing.
And he was so bloodied and battered he crawled back to his garden gate and his wife didn't recognise him from the top, right at the top of the house because she looked and she just saw this kind of what looked like a homeless person covered in blood.
He then died at the gate.
And fast forward to, I mean he was the man that baptised me, so I was baptised in April 1990, he was murdered in September 1990, and then he was made a, he's been canonised.
But he's incredible, so he's, if you look him up, he's, you know, he's very well, you know, he was well, he sort of, during the 70s, he, when Orthodox priests weren't allowed, they only usually went to old people, old ladies, that was their thing, they weren't allowed to talk to students and children and whatever, and Father Alexander, that was his, so if you think about the fact that it was, atheism was everywhere under Stalin and then subsequently,
Father Alexander introduced this idea that you go around and you spread the message of Christ and redemption to whoever you meet.
So there were little prayer groups that were set up in the 80s, so after sort of perestroika, in people's flats.
And I was thinking about solutions to where we are now and thinking, I really like the idea that we disengage as much as we can from the evil, I mean, we call it the Matrix, but I mean, I don't know, whatever, the blob, the evil blob.
And we sort of create, and I've said this before actually, but I've been a bit sort of, this was a couple of years ago, I was a bit poo-pooed on some, you know, Twitter, you know when they do the Twitter things where everyone talks?
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, I said, yeah, we need a kind of parallel society, like the catacombs.
Yes.
Where we all meet.
You know, like we do at festivals, you know, we all meet.
It's lovely and people are there and they exchange views and they're sort of there.
But that's what we need.
We can't plug back in to what's been.
It's too late.
It's like a dog going back to its own sick.
I never understand this idea that we can trust anybody who was part of that because There's something new coming.
I think it's exciting.
There are definitely no leaders.
People on our side get irritated when you talk about controlled opposition and Judas Goats and so on, as though they don't exist.
Apparently, it's just paranoia or this talk is there to divide us.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
It is a fact and has been since time immemorial.
How do these people, how do the predator class keep their hegemony?
And it is by co-opting any resistance by making sure that they they plant their allies in every resistance group.
Yeah, so that's why I think like you I'm very very suspicious.
I'm not a joiner.
I'm not anything calling itself something like together.
Yeah, right.
There's a there's a there's a there's a clue.
Yeah.
Oh, together.
We are the voice of the resistance.
Okay, we're going to criticize the lockdowns, but we're not going to criticize the vaccines because that might alienate some of the resistance.
People who are really on board with having an experimental medical procedure In their arm, even though it takes 10 years to test these things and this has been rushed out in less than a year.
And also even though no vaccine has worked ever, they always do.
Despite all that, we shouldn't criticize the vaccines because that might leave us disunited.
We just talk about all the time about No, it's just rubbish.
It is rubbish.
I mean, I was in, we were probably in the same WhatsApp groups together, you know, sort of back in the day.
I just used to think, hang on a minute, why aren't we, you're all just talking about where you're going to go for dinner, you know, for a sort of big, like, let's go to Fulham.
Let's go to a lovely restaurant in Fulham.
I mean, good God!
And I just thought, and then when he gets him and Isabelle Oakeshott, um, I've got a very rude, do you want to hear what I call her, Gisabelle Cumshott, I know all your listeners and viewers are going to say, can she really be a Christian?
Yes, I bloody well can!
Yeah, you are, you are this, Abi, you are the sweary, the sweary voice of Christianity.
Yes.
And we love, we love you for it.
God chooses imperfect vessels for his perfect work.
James.
And I only say that as a... but I, you know, genuinely I think, I think, um, yeah, anyway, so I swear that's one of my... I don't even see it as a sin.
I see it as a way of, um, ex... because sometimes vocabulary to describe evil runs out.
And all you're left with is wonderful Anglo-Saxon, um, stuff that, you know, I mean, unless you want to use this, this to me, the swearing is the equivalent of the, of the fist.
Yes.
Um, for anger, but, um, where was I was talking about?
Oh, Melville.
And, uh, yeah, I mean, that's a. Well, I tell you, I had this, I had this weird experience and, um, Oh yeah, the podcast they did with Matt Hancock.
That's what I remember.
So really quite early on.
Yeah.
I don't think I'm telling stories out of school here because I think it's important to talk about these things so people know how the world works.
Particularly awake people who I think can sometimes be quite naive about this.
Yeah.
So really quite early on, when it was starting to look like, what is this crazy world that's happening?
Where did these lockdowns come from?
And I mean, I remember right at the beginning, I was, I thought, well, I don't want to be associated with these crazy anti-5G people, because that sounds like a conspiracy theory.
And I mean, yeah.
I really have gone down the rabbit hole at an accelerated, I've been on the accelerated program, the sort of the crash course, the crash PhD course.
I've crammed it into that.
The Bugs Bunny course.
Yeah, exactly.
The Bugs Bunny on amphetamines version.
But so at the beginning I was, you know, there's lots and lots I didn't know but I had a sense that something was wrong and I wanted to know more and I went to the first march, the very first march and almost got arrested.
Yeah.
When there was just a handful of people in the park.
Yeah.
And I remember at about that time, I got this email or tweet or, I mean, WhatsApp from James Melville and, oh that's right, Dick approached me and said there's a guy called James Melville who's asked me to get in touch with you.
And he says you've blocked him on Twitter.
I said, do you remember James Baldwin Melville?
He said, well, you'd have blocked him because he was really, really very aggressively remain and he was he was part of the you know, that he would have sent you some really nasty tweets and he wants you to know that that actually things has changed now.
He's now leading this new group of this breakaway group who oppose the lockdown.
And I thought, well, okay, sounds nice.
It's always nice to be wanted.
I'll join this new freedom group.
And I got the same sensation you did after a while.
There was this sort of sterile chat about where we were going to meet up for our next drinky-poos and darling.
And I got no sense of who this person was or why he was coordinating this group.
This is how it happens.
I hate to say it, I even have my doubts about Tobes.
I hate to say this in public, but I think it needs to be thought through.
The Daily Skeptic Which started out full of high-minded principles about resisting, now seems to be very worryingly on the fence on the issues like vaccine toxicity and stuff.
It's like, well on the one hand Pfizer and the medical establishment say that these vaccines are okay, but But here, to counter that view, is a hint of a report that maybe some people might have been into.
You think, hang on a second, if I want this sitting on the fence stuff, I can go to anywhere in the mainstream media.
And it's the same with the free speech union.
I love the idea that there is this free speech union fighting for free speech, but His definition of free speech, and this is one of the reasons we fell out, is it seems to be free speech as long as the government says it's free speech.
And you're thinking, what?
As long as the current regulation permits you to say this, then we're really on board with this free speech.
No, that's not free speech, Tobes.
It's really not.
It's like a sanitised... I mean, free speech by definition isn't sanitary, is it?
It's not sanitised.
That's the whole point of it.
Is that you go into all sorts of areas, and if you're modifying it, then you're as bad as the people that say you're not allowed to say that.
Because you're sort of... It's like having a dinner party.
I remember back in the day, back when my darling mum was around, and she used to have dinner parties that started at one in the afternoon and then went on to... And imagine somebody going, yes, I think we've spoken quite long enough about that.
Oh yes, and Gerald, if you wouldn't mind... I mean, they would have been awful!
I mean, so as a result, they were the best things because they were just so much, you know, you hear raised voices, people getting pissed, you know, people falling out, you know, and I always used to say, as long as nobody shits in the soufflé, then you're all right, anything goes.
I think there's the same with free speech, you know, you've got a sort of...
You've got to let it, you've got to let it rip.
And there's something weird, because I mean, I felt, this may surprise listeners and viewers, because I have slagged Tobes off an awful lot.
I mean, mainly because I just can't believe that anybody could be equivocal about what's happening.
I just, I just, like you said, the sitting on, the splinters in the arse, yes, but it's sitting on the fence.
But genuinely, I did, I sort of feel A little bit.
I feel pity, which in a way is worse, I suppose, than feeling anger towards somebody, because I think, gosh, what are you missing?
What part of your, either here or here, pointing to my heart, the listeners, what are you, or even this, this cross, what are you, what's missing?
And I felt, you know when you split up for London Calling, I genuinely, I messaged you, I felt, I felt sorry for him.
I sort of thought, which is not something you want, I don't think a grown man wants to hear, that somebody who slagged them off relentlessly for being a pussy now feels sorry.
Because I did, I sort of thought, there's something lost about him, there's something a little bit...
What do you do with that, James?
This brings me back to the initial theme of this chat.
It is very, very clear now that these MPs, among other people, are absolutely committed to a world in which we are They want to ban from traveling, ban from going abroad.
They're going to close down the airports by 2030.
They want to force us to live in these 15-minute cities.
They want to tax us off the road, to speed ticket us off the road, to get us off the road every which way.
They want to force us to install in our homes these boilers which don't heat your home when it's cold.
They just don't work.
They just yeah, and so they're really they're really inefficient.
They want to do all this stuff and you're going yeah, but I still want to go to parties with these people and I still want to continue dialogue with them.
Yeah, and I'm thinking.
Why?
Yes.
It's like saying, okay, um, I've got this, this, got this little predilection, um, Abby, I quite like having sex with, with children at satanic ceremonies.
I don't do it very often.
Please don't clip this bit, James.
Every other, every, every other, I just do it every other weekend.
Every other weekend, yeah.
When you're not horse riding.
Exactly, yeah.
And you, Abby, going, well, it's alright.
It's fine.
We've all got our little vices.
We've all got our little peccadilloes.
Our peccadilloes.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking, no.
These people are clearly in the service of Satan and I don't even, I'm not even using that metaphorically.
Yes, yes.
Because the overall master plan of what's happening to the world is satanic because it involves a tiny, tiny, tiny stratum of society, probably One percent of one percent of one percent.
And these people hate us.
They want to torment us.
They are really happy for things like, instances like, the man in your story to die in his own piss and vomit.
Lovely Ted.
Lived a decent hard-working life.
Was destroyed by them, the government.
He trusted the government.
That could be written on the epitaph.
He trusted the government.
Yes.
Or he trusted the NHS.
Yeah, exactly.
These people, they don't do this stuff by accident.
They do this stuff by design.
They hate us.
And the politicians are their agents.
Among their many agents, they've got agents in the law, they've got agents in the big corporations, they've got agents everywhere, local councils, local government, schools, universities.
Their little elves are helping them out everywhere.
But it's all deliberate.
And I don't see why you would want to break bread with people who act... Completely.
Completely understand.
It would be like Father Alexander, men, the man that baptised me, sitting down, going to the Kremlin and, you know, just having a cup of tea.
You know, just like, oh, let's just, yeah, let's just chitchat about this and that.
Because he was a man of God and probably... A man of God and a man of principle.
He would never have dreamed.
No, no, he was absolutely under the radar.
Who offed him, by the way?
Do you know what?
I'm glad you asked me that question.
They never found his killer.
There are various theories, one of which, I mean there's a couple, that it was the KGB.
Also he was ecumenical, so in Orthodox terms you'll know this, that there's a part of the, a lot of, in the Orthodox Church, the idea that all Christian faiths Or Christianity should all meet.
You know, there's a union in Christ.
So he had that belief.
And in orthodoxy, there are some who say, oh no, no, no, we don't want anyone else.
So it may have been people who were actually within the church.
Killer monks!
Exactly, Killer Monks.
And possibly why he maybe stopped and sort of got chatting.
And also he was born a Jew, so his mum converted and then he did, so it may have been that angle as well.
What's that?
They never found the killer, they never found him.
I mean it's just it's it's so it's so and actually you know it really I mean I still feel the shockwaves of that now I think gosh I've got to meet this wonderful man and by the way nobody no English person was baptized in Russia at that time I mean I think I was the first one So people asked me, I think I was in the, somebody interviewed me from the Times and said, you know, how do you feel to be the first?
And of course, age, what, 20?
I didn't have a clue.
I was just sort of thinking, well, isn't that what people do?
And actually, no, Father Alexander knew that I was on a path and he saw how important it was even then and he didn't you know we didn't know each other really really really well I mean I'd met him a few times I'd sat in his study and we're talking about by the way a priest where various emissaries from so the people from the Vatican would kind of drive and see him they would avoid the crowd they would avoid any officials and go straight to father Alexander
So, you know, he met some, you know, he was an extraordinary man in the sense that people came to ask him for wisdom and advice, for his wisdom.
And I, the reason I, I mean, when I got back to England, I really pissed off because I went to an Orthodox church, you know, Ennismore Gardens, the Kensington Russian Orthodox Church.
So I went there and I was told off because I was five minutes late by a Cambridge Don who knew my parents.
So I walked in and she, can you imagine, so I'm full of this sort of excitement of oh I'm back in London and I'm going to follow my path and then I'm told off by this awful, she used to wear black leather She was a lesbian.
She was a Cambridge dog.
Lesbian Cambridge dog.
And she said, what time do you call this?
So I'm... And honestly, James, it really... You know how some things really... It sounds little now.
It sounds like, well, so what?
It's clearly rankled.
Yes, but it bloody has rankled.
Yes, Irina Kirilova, like literally, but she always wore black leather and she was very, very, you know, spoken kind of like that, you know, very, very well spoken English, but also with slight Russian accents, you know, the kind of very, very, like Maria Callas used to, you know, with a sort of European sounding English.
You're good, Abbie, your accents.
I'm very good with my accents, my darling.
Very good.
I can do all sorts.
I could do Chinese for you.
I thought like this.
Honestly, my pod, I sometimes think, God, if people listened, they would probably think that I'm an equal opportunities offender.
I love it when you sing in your comedy sets.
Yeah.
But you've got an operatic voice.
Yes, well I trained, um, I was going to be an opera singer, that's why, one of the reasons I went to Moscow, to the Conservatoire, and learnt, um, and was taught by Bella Andreevna Rudenko, who was from Kiev, well, back then.
Kiev, I think.
Exactly, back then, I mean, imagine if I said, oh yes, from Kiev, she would have looked at me, it's like, who is this, who's this weirdo?
Um, and so she, so I, I studied with her, um, at the Conservatoire, and so learnt Rachmaninoff, learnt And then I honestly, and this is me, it's not regret, because we've said we don't do regrets, but I think I just thought, am I disciplined enough?
Do I like smoking?
Do I like partaking in certain substances?
Too much to really give this and and the answer was Yes, I do like the Elvis doing the other stuff too much To because your voice, you know, you've got to it's it's like a it's so precious like a jewel, you know You take care of I mean weirdly my voice is probably stronger now than it was then so maybe that was just Yeah, but you know, the opera world is very sort of disciplined and quite serious actually, you know, I mean I
I can't imagine me doing, I don't know, Vice D'arte, you know, and then turning to the audience and going, do you know what I mean, love?
Oof, blimey, crikey.
I mean, do you know what I mean?
So there was that part of me which was, I thought, no, that's not for me.
And then I went to drama school and I went to Bristol, old Vic.
What are you, a soprano?
I'd say probably now, probably... Could you do... so you couldn't do... could you do One Fine Day?
God, no.
No, that's kind of bel canto, isn't it?
That's a...
Yeah, that's nice.
I'm terrible with lyrics, by the way.
You know when you said, have you learnt that psalm?
I shat myself because part of me was going, should I maybe just have it to the side and go...
It's like, cheat!
And then you know.
But genuinely, I've got a very... This is not age thing, this is all my life.
I can never remember lyrics very well.
I'm like Elvis.
Elvis used to pin lyrics to the back of Scotty Moore, his guitarist.
So you'll see him going...
Granny, you know, he was sort of like, look, and I'm like that.
So even in drama school, I could learn very good in plays, would never, never fuck up.
But if you asked me three weeks later, what were your lines?
I wouldn't have a clue.
That's a shame, isn't it? - Exactly.
Because you've got a good memory, haven't you?
Well, only because I sort of worked on it.
When I first started getting the symptoms of the incredibly tedious health complaint, which I don't like to talk about because it's so bloody boring.
That's a euphemism.
I thought that maybe I was losing my memory.
So in order to Check that I wasn't losing my memory when I started learning poems.
Yes.
And then I moved on to the Psalms.
And so, yeah, I think anyone can do it.
Yes.
Even you, probably.
So, I can see you more of a sort of Four Last Songs type person.
I bet you could do the Four Last Songs.
Yes, yes.
I love a leader.
Yes.
You know, Morgan, that's, that's lovely.
Yes.
Oh, you see all these, I mean, this is all the sort of stuff that I'd be able to just, um, would immediately come to mind, you know, but Lida was something that I really, I loved all that, loved all that stuff.
And Rachmaninoff, you know, um, I remember learning siren, which means lilacs, um, in, in Russian.
Uh, and, uh, that's beautiful.
I'll go to the morning, I'll breathe in the morning.
But when I learned and was speaking Russian all the time, I got back to the UK.
And when I was given Italian songs to do, I don't know, I'm trying to think of one.
You know, the Italian, they speak a lot of English.
But when you're speaking Russian, All the time you go... Because the placing is completely different.
All Russian opera singers sing Italian with a slightly... You know, this down here.
Because you can't... There's nothing you can do!
Your Russian sounds good, Abby.
Are you fluent?
It's rusty.
It's rusty.
Better than mine.
I speak it now and again.
Yeah, better than yours.
But it's... I mean, back then, it was just all the time.
You know what it's like with languages.
If you're around people all the time, it's just sort of there.
You know, it sort of comes back.
So it's not bad.
Неплохо.
Not bad.
Have you read all the Russians, the Russian phasics in Russian?
What do you think?
No, all right.
I was too busy around the back of Cinderella's with a cone of chips in one hand and a pint of snakebite and black in the other.
That's a shame though.
For balance.
I don't know.
I love, as you know, I love the Russians.
Yes, I know you do.
They are the best.
Yes.
I'm not really, I'm not a, I think, I should read more books.
I know people listening are going to go, good grief, who is this woman?
I'm very much I think I've got, you know, and I think this is, remember we talked about why do critical thinkers, why do you and me, why have we sort of seen stuff that maybe other people, and I do think there is something about people that think a lot about different things all at once.
You know that sort of, they shoot off their, what do you call them, not the synapses, is it synapses?
The little sort of, where one minute you'll be thinking, oh actually, yes, John Stuart Mill, that's quite interesting what he said.
Oh, but that's, I mean people call it ADHD, which is just bullshit, it's just another name for, I think.
Although, if that were the case, Abby, Eddie Izzard would be one of us, which he clearly isn't.
He's called Susie now.
Susie?
I had a cat called Susie once.
I think, I think there was something in that.
Yeah, right, exactly.
Your synapses were triggering there.
Yeah, I mean, what's happened there?
But is he, was he, was he ever really, though, a critical thinker?
I mean, I found his stand-up, I found it bloody awesome.
I mean, he was very sort of, you know, look at me, I'm sort of improvising on the spot about Star Wars and, you know, history.
And I just used to think, oh, isn't it a bit navel-gazy sort of bullshit?
You know, I mean, um, Uh, if you know, if you know the name, they're in the game.
It's, I'm sure it's the, uh, you know, this is what Miri French says.
I love Miri.
Can I just say, absolutely.
And how dare Launch Fox attack her?
Sorry, I'm going to get a little bit.
No thing was that it was just wounded.
It was wounded peak.
Um, no one likes being attacked and, and Miri, I think is an absolute, Genius, I do.
I mean, I see her as like my kind of mini James protégé.
She's just like… I love Marie.
And it's weird.
It's weird that we encountered each other years ago when she was about 17 or something.
And she was a fan of… one of the few fans of this novel I wrote.
And we communicated probably through the Through pen.
Yeah.
Well, this is the for social media.
Yes, and and it's great to see she's she's on the money so often.
But I've noticed this that that I was thinking the other day.
Do you remember the weird period where?
David Baddiel and Rob Newman were considered the funniest people in the country, and they could fill Stadia with their, um, with jokes like, yeah, see that car.
That's you.
That's you, that is.
See that piece of shit on the ground?
That's you, that is.
Yeah.
Were they ever funny?
I don't think they were.
I think that part of the control system is to create these figures.
So you're told, for example, Stephen Fry.
Stephen Fry is the cleverest man you will ever see on TV and he is the Oscar Wilde de Nojeur as well.
Yeah, he's a polymath.
He's written this.
He wrote the book for me and my girl and that's how he became he became very very rich so rich that he didn't need to work again, but he does because he's also wants to play Chiefs and Worcester and do this and that.
Yeah.
So I'm not saying that they don't have this latent talent.
But have you seen He's been to Ukraine, hasn't he?
He's been to Kiev.
He has, he had a personal audience with the totally heterosexual, not the former rent boy, Zelensky.
Yes, dreadful.
Yes, dreadful.
Did you see the footage of Brad Pitt being interviewed, I think, at some, probably one of those Cannes Film Festival, and somebody said, you know, what is the secret?
How did you become famous?
You know, what is the secret to your success, Mr. Pitt?
And he says, well, I made a pact with the devil.
And it's very very clear that, or I sold my soul, and it's very very clear that he's being absolutely sincere.
There is no semblance of a doubt that he means it and the audience is laughing.
They think it's very funny, but he's completely straight-faced and he's not a great comic actor.
I don't think anyone's ever accused him of that.
Yeah.
He wasn't delivering one-liners, he was absolutely sincere.
And there's the interview that Bob Dylan famously did where he talks about the chief commander, that this is why you've got to keep on.
It's why the Stones are on tour now again.
They're in their 90s or something, aren't they?
Why Mick Jagger is condemned to shag 16-year-olds or however old he chooses, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
He's compelled because that's his job, that he's required to do this as a result of the pact that they signed with the devil.
There was another thing I saw of, I think it was Matthew McConaughey, talking about the Uvalde killing where allegedly a right-wing Did not case went on the rampage and killed lots of left-wing students on an island.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
And and and McConaughey bursts out into and this girl died and he was And it's deepest delight.
Wow.
These people are all in on the lie.
Yes.
Because they are all in the service of the devil.
And people who don't get this, you get it because you're a Christian.
I get it because I'm a Christian.
But people who don't get this, that this is ultimately a battle between good and evil, and that the world is... And this is Satan's world.
I mean, this is Satan's world.
It's John, isn't it, who says that?
Yeah, so we're constantly, and Father Alexander talks about this, we're constantly It's a test, our life, I think.
So you choose between the two, and then where that goes after that, I mean, is a kind of mystery.
There's a sort of mystery, isn't there, in Christianity, which I love.
Do you?
A little bit.
It's like where they pull off their heads and it turns out that it was the guy who ran the fairground.
I read your telegram thing where you said, is it maybe, is Christianity a big trap?
I don't think it is.
I think sometimes the wrong people I think just by definition of what I've said before about the flawed, imperfect vessels are sometimes chosen.
I do think, I thought of this the other day, I thought, I think the closer you are to the baubles, the closer you feel to the heat coming off those baubles, It's a warning sign, so you have to kind of step back a little bit and think, hmm, am I being tempted here by these shiny things that sort of mean nothing?
Oh, and they are, I mean, by definition, they are tempting the baubles.
I mean, if they weren't tempting, what would be the point?
It'd be so easy.
It'd be so easy to be a Christian, wouldn't it?
I don't like sex and drugs and rock and roll, they're just, like, really boring.
Who wants meaningless sex with a beautiful stranger?
Exactly.
I mean, I've never done that in my time.
But yes, of course I have.
But I mean, because we're flawed, and that's the whole point, isn't it?
But it is a test.
I do think it is a test.
I was going to say to you as well, because I've been having a think about my thoughts on the rapture, you know, sort of the end days, the end times, all this.
And I'm actually, I mean, interestingly, Unlike Alistair, who's wonderful, Alistair Williams, I am not a turn-the-other-cheek person, because I think sometimes I think to myself, well, how's that worked out in the past, when people need to stand up to evil?
And also, because sometimes, also, don't forget, when you're turning the other cheek, If you're defending something, you're not just defending yourself, you're defending others.
So it's their cheeks that you're turning as well, if that makes sense.
There's a collective thing withstanding up to evil.
And the other thing I was thinking is the rapture, the idea that everyone who's good at the end of it will just kind of shoot up into heaven, I think is terrifying children.
That doesn't sit well with me.
The idea that, you know, you might have children who think, oh well, it's all going to kind of end in this sort of, this awful, this awful sort of, this terrifying thing.
That's not the Christianity that I've come to.
I think there has to be some hope in our own lives, in where we are.
Because otherwise it's not a test, is it?
If it's a constant test between good and evil, if then it all ends dramatically and everyone dies in a kind of... Well, I don't know, you've read Revelations.
I mean, you've got horses up to their necks, I think, in blood.
In blood.
That sounds pretty not fun.
It does.
Unless you're on the horse.
I mean, actually, if you're on the horse, you're sorted, because there's only coming up to his neck.
Yeah, exactly.
This is why I'm Calvary.
It's why I'm Calvary.
Always will be.
But I hope that makes sense to some of the people, because I know some people who listen to this might say, well then, are you really a Christian?
But to me Christianity has nothing to do with, this is me personally, all we should fear is not doing good deeds every day.
That's what we should fear, is walking out and for instance maybe seeing a TED, you know walking on a road or seeing somebody, or even emailing someone who you haven't, people you don't know and you might just sort of say, just checking in.
You know, these little things.
But things like death.
Why fear death?
There's no... Yeah.
Well, of course, death is one of the... You see, it's a bit like photographs of you having sex with small children.
Death is one of the things that they've got over you.
If you are frightened of death and they've got a complement they can use against you.
Yes, which is why you can't be can't be afraid of death.
So yeah, and that's why we've had what we've had the last the last three years is the idea that is that everyone thinks but but we've got to be I mean the yeah, we've got to we've got to live forever.
Which I think is why a lot of... That ain't gonna happen.
No.
Not even with all these, no matter how much adrenochrome you take, sorry guys, it ain't gonna... Sorry guys, but it isn't gonna happen.
And I'll tell you what I haven't told you about, we haven't talked about, my arrest... Oh, tell me about that!
Tell me about your arrest.
It's been... You sound so concerned.
No, no.
Do you know what?
I just think it's really scary when you fall through the cracks and you realise that the system... Tell me what happened.
Give me the blow-by-blow.
So, blow by blow, I went down, June the 27th, went down to Paddington to where the UK COVID inquiry is, inquiry aka Whitewash, and Matt Hancock was due to be giving his evidence murdering Matt Hancock.
Madazlam Matt.
Madazlam Matt, yeah.
Madazlam Matt was down there.
And then, so there were a few of us, not many, it was me, Francis O'Neill, you know, lovely Francis O'Neill, who's one of the yellow boards.
I met him at your party.
Yes, of course you did, sorry, lovely.
Fine fellow.
And one of the yellow boards, so a few of the few yellow boards were down there and people who are watching don't know, they're wonderful, they go out every day with the yellow boards round roundabouts on the street talking about you Les, 15-minute cities, the vaccines, blah blah etc.
They're wonderful grassroots activists and I was down there and then I, all the press were there of course because Hancock was there, So I went down and then started swearing.
Well, started using the F-word quite a lot.
Which you rarely do.
Which I rarely do.
I did tweet that I was going down to see the C-U-N-T, Matt Hancock.
I never used that word, actually, even though Info Wars, they reported that I'd used the C-word.
I hadn't, which I'm very disappointed about.
I didn't actually use that word.
So anyway, cut a long story short, I'm there, I say, fucking hell, you know, are you trying to, what's going on here, this is a whitewash, blah blah blah, to the, because all the press were there, Sky, all the wankers, GB News, Tom Harwood was there.
So at one point, I stood behind Tom Harwood, I thought, right, I've got to get in shot with a yellow board saying, have you been uh, injured as a result of the, you know, uh, are you, something like, has it affected you, the vaccine question box?
So always, you know, questions.
And then that was then, it was then when he was doing his lawyer, his to camera thing.
Um, you could see me in the background.
Then Francis comes in.
It's like a comedy sketch because Francis kind of comes in like the two Ronnies, um, behind, um, Tom Harwood, um, the bootlicking wanker.
And, um, and then they, cause I'm getting more heated thinking this is absurd that this is happening in this Dorland house.
This whitewash of what's happened.
So then I start talking to some of the press and then the guy comes out.
And says, you know, like an official bloke comes out and goes, uh, madam, can you please, uh, can you please stop swearing?
Uh, this is a public, uh, this is a public highway, or not, this is a private property, whatever.
And then, um, and I say, are you trying to tell me that swearing's worse than what's going on in there?
Which is a complete whitewash of criminal activity by, you know, the powers that be.
And then, to cut a long story short, then suddenly a policeman appears out of nowhere and says, if you swear again, if you swear again.
So the first swear wasn't illegal, but the second swear was.
So he says, if you swear again, we're going to arrest you.
So I turn, you can see in the video, I turn to one side and I just go, well, fuck you then.
And then the two women grab me by the arm.
They try and get me in the back of a van, you know the police van with the grate, with the grill, and I'm claustrophobic, which isn't great when you're going to be in a police cell.
So I sort of thought, oh no, I don't want to get in there.
You know the thing with the grill at the back and you're in the boot, you're essentially sort of just shoved in like a pair of Hunter Wellies in the back.
So I said, no, I'm not getting in there.
And then they said, well, there's a van here.
So I sat with them, two female coppers either side.
The guy driving said, this is all being recorded, by the way.
Everything's being recorded.
And I said, well, I said, testing, testing, just so everyone knows that you'll regret what you did today, because everything I said back there was true.
Because I stood in front of all the press.
Imagine there was a huge bank of press.
sort of um what was it like a just a a sort of um just a chinos and nikon cameras you know this kind of like just like in a sort of weird mess and so i stood there and i was able and i said to them The coercion and lack of consent, informed consent, informed or otherwise, is the crime.
And it violates the Nuremberg Code.
And I stood there and said to all the press, and they were all taking photographs, and I said, and I pointed and I went, you're all complicit, all of you.
By doing what you're doing today and not, um, not saying anything.
I said, that's the crime.
We haven't even got to what's in the jabs yet.
That's a separate issue, but the coercion and the, um, you know, so I'd done a lot of thinking about this.
Like, what do I, and I, you know, and I'd, I'd, I'd put, and when I do my podcast, you see, of course, it's all, I speak about this so much that when it came to doing it in front of the press, it was like, it was there, you know, because it was like right at the front of my mind.
This whole Nuremberg violation.
And then I got to the police station, got to the police station, was checked in by the check-in desk in Hoban.
I thought, oh my God, are we going anywhere nice in this van?
Yes, Hoban police station.
I mean, I'm not Solzhenitsyn, James.
I'm not Terry Waite.
I wasn't like chained.
I wasn't chained to... You know, I'm not sort of... It was Hoban.
You know, it wasn't a gulag.
But then I went in, stood You know, so I was arrested at 10 in the morning, roughly, and then I stood when I was being checked in and said to all the, you know when they say don't say anything, you know, say no comment?
I chose to ignore that and then stood there and said, don't tell me that there are people in this room, so I was looking around all the policemen, who don't think that they've maybe been affected by the vaccines and that it was wrong what happened, what the last three years, And they all kind of went, they all looked really sheepish.
And then two women behind me sat down and said, they sort of said something and I said, see they know.
And one of them said, no comment.
So I thought, well, and I said, well, I think we know, we know the answer then.
And then there was all sorts, like they gave me a leaflet about women prisoners, female prisoners, you know, things like if you need any like products for females.
So I said to the desks, Yeah, exactly for me.
And I said to the desk sergeant, I said, I said, well, I'll tell you something.
I said, it's really good to know that Holborn Police Station knows what a woman is.
And he kind of went...
You could see him go, I can't laugh because I'm arresting this woman.
So, um, and of course I was just thinking, well, it'll just be, I'll just be here in the, in the foyer of the, um, police station.
Then this, then this guy, um, does the fingerprints and the whatever.
And then, um, I, all I could hear is cell number three.
Honestly, James, I was, so I was in, they put me in, shut the door.
It's a metal door.
So imagine with someone with claustrophobia, And the guy who put me in there, let's call him Ron for argument's sake, let's call him Trevor, he didn't want to close the door.
So we had this moment and we chose a couple of books for me to read.
So you imagine, I'm in there with my books.
They said to me, you're the best, you know, we're afraid to let you go because we don't know who's going to come after you.
So I was in there, got a solicitor's phone call after a couple of hours and she said it's good news, they're going to give you a fine and then you're going to be released.
Because I was arrested under the Public Order Act 1986.
But I've spoken to various people, people you know as well, you've had on here.
X police officers who say that though that it wasn't unlawful it was it I shouldn't have been arrested but this woman said you'll be released and then you can challenge the fine blah blah cut to 10 hours later and I thought this isn't going the way that I thought it would so I was in there for 17 hours and I was, honestly, I went through all the different kind of emotions.
There were some Nigerian guys in the next cell.
And all I could hear was, you know, in the next, so one in one cell, then one in the other.
All I could hear was, eh, eh-oh, eh, eh, no comment, eh, eh-oh.
They were like Nigerian Teletubbies.
They were like, eh, eh-oh, but like really loud.
And then I smelt bleach on one of the coppers.
Let's call him Bernard.
I'm not gonna give their real names.
Um, I could smell bleach, and he went, and the little window came down, and he went, he went, yeah, one of them was just, um, smeared his own shit up the walls.
Window goes back up.
And I'm like, oh, that's what I wanted to tell you.
When I got down to the police station, I had my rucksack with me, and you know they, they check everything in there, that they're not taking anything kind of, anything weird in there.
And they went, this woman went, this police woman went, looked at my rucksack and she went, keys, phone, Tin of Heinz tomato soup.
Because I, so I panicked and went, oh, I'm going to see a friend for lunch and she loves tomato soup, especially Heinz.
And I'd taken it down in case I saw Matt Hancock, to throw it over him.
So there was this awful moment where they went, what's, you know, so when she said Heinz tomato soup, I thought, oh my God.
So luckily I could have improvised on the spot about the lunch thing.
And then, so I was, I was in there 17 hours.
I sang, I prayed, I, well, they took my cross.
Sorry, the mic's in the way, but they, they took my cross off and I was wearing two badges, a couple of badges for Trudy.
I don't know if you know Trudy Galloway's son, Benjamin, took his own life.
He was 25 during July 2020.
He took his own life so I was wearing her badges and they got me to take those off.
But it was good because I was able to tell the police and also the press why I was wearing the badges.
So there was quite a lot of PR for the truth going on.
And then 17 hours later, three o'clock in the morning, they tell me the two policewomen come past and say, we're gonna interview you.
So I was in an interview room, three in the morning, and the solicitor, who of course I didn't know, just some random bloke turns up and he says, say this, blah, blah, you know, just say, yes, I did say these things.
Because they had a recording of it, of me saying it.
So one of the policewomen, I tried not to piss myself, because she said really seriously, So you said the following, fuck, fuck and fuck you, but like with a totally straight face.
And I went, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's right.
Sounds about right, love.
Sounds like me.
Sounds like me.
If it walks like a duck!
But I just tried not to laugh because it sounded so ridiculous.
You know, this whole thing of being... 17 hours of doing that and then they let me go with a community resolution, it's called, which is basically no criminal record, it's a slap on the wrist, it's for minor misdemeanors.
And then as I was... that was it.
And then one of the policemen who gave me tea and mainly custard creams through the little window, he said, if you say to the... when you're interviewed that you've got an appointment early this morning and then they're more likely to let you go.
So I thought, well I'm not going to use the appointment as an excuse.
So I said in my kind of dazed three o'clock in the morning, I said, I need to get home because I need to feed my cat, Susie, and I haven't got a cat.
I just kind of panicked.
And then on the way out, they, um, that was it, yeah, she said on the way out, what's the name, what's the name of the... And then I had these weird things, James, where I thought, are they going to knock, am I going to get a knock on the door saying, where's Susie?
Where's the imaginary cat?
Where's the imaginary cat?
And I'm going to have to say, Susie, oh she, well either she's dead, or she's, I've let her out, she's out, and then they might say, but if I have got an imaginary cat, where's the food bowl?
All these things went through my head, and then I'd have to put down what I eat, feta, tomatoes, and on the floor, and have to say to them, it's a Greek cat.
Fucking Greek cat, what can I say?
Honestly, James, all these things, because you go kind of mad.
You go fucking mad.
It's a Greek cat.
You should have stuck with the appointment.
People listening now should know, don't make up the cat.
Just stick to the appointment.
Don't make up an imaginary cat, even if it's three o'clock in the morning and you're in a police station.
When they said, what's the cat's name?
At one point, I did.
I've got to admit it.
Dick came into my head.
And I mean your brother.
Dick Dellingpole, because we love Dick.
And I need... Imagine if I'd said, Dick Dellingpole is the name of my imaginary cat, because he's got lovely... Lovely whiskers.
He does have lovely whiskers.
I do, I love Dick.
I was thinking, if you'd said... Don't clip that bit.
If you'd said...
That if you've got the name wrong and you've done a different name, maybe three different names, you could say, well, I studied in Russia and everyone in Russia has three names.
They have the patronymic and the family name.
Susie Suzinka Suzovich was her name.
Really?
But at that point, I think the coppers would have just gone, Just get out.
You didn't need to go that far, but it would have been... If that happens again, I'm just offering a tip.
Thanks very much if it happens again.
I mean, to be honest, James, I would... I don't know what... I mean, Neil Oliver's called for revolution on Twitter twice now.
He said in his, like, lyrical whispering voice, you know, we need a revolution about now.
You know, that kind of really whisper, like he's doing the lyrics of a song.
I'm talking about a revolution.
You know, the Tracy Chapman, run, run, run, run.
Standing in the welfare lane, you know, it's just, I can't help it, I just think of, as his monologues always sound like lyrics to me, I think to myself, well if Neil Oliver's, well go on then, because the thing is James, I think to myself, would you, would people get arrested, would they?
Because I'll tell you what, 17 hours ain't any fun.
No.
But also, how can you work for GB News and call for revolution?
Because aren't they sort of funded by all the evil toads?
Totally.
I mean, I can't believe I'm... and by the way, I'm not for bloody revolution.
I mean, having lived in Russia, I think that's pretty obvious.
People know me.
But I can't believe that I was having to think to myself... I actually gave people advice on Twitter.
I said, well, if you want to start a revolution, then obviously the media channels have to be taken over.
So I'd suggest to people, if you do work for, if things have got to that pitch, you're going to have to not go on air.
Wouldn't that be the first thing?
I know I'm putting an awful lot at you, James.
I'm kind of throwing all this stuff at you.
Stuff that I think, well, are you walking the walk?
I was just thinking actually that you and I and a few of the other lads could storm Broadcasting House.
You've got to take over the radio station.
I've seen the Wild Geese.
It's what you do.
The first thing you do is take over the radio.
Maybe things have changed since then though.
It's revolution 1.0.
I mean it really is.
It's revolution for beginners.
We need quite a few people on the ground I think.
I don't know how you take over the internet.
But he's like, how do you do it?
But I mean, I suppose what I'm saying is, well, you know, you've got to be careful.
Words mean things.
So you're going to give people hope that there's something that there's something's going to happen.
You know, you know, with these people that go like Malhotra going, you know, oh, this big thing's going to happen.
Well, go on, tell us what it is.
Tell us what it is, love.
I don't know.
I'm with you on the rapture.
I think Alistair Williams is definitely going to get raptured.
He is just so in with God that he's got the free pass.
I don't think you and I are going to get raptured.
I just don't think, A, I don't feel good enough, and B, I'm not totally convinced.
I'm not even sure I believe in the rapture.
Well, I'm glad you said that because it's only because it instills fear Don't we want less fear?
I thought the rapture was a good thing?
Why do you think the rapture's not good?
It's fun, isn't it?
What, going up?
What, being swept up into...
Yeah, to heaven, without the intermediate horror bit where you die.
Sounds pretty good to me.
It sounds not miserable.
Yes, but I suppose what I think to myself, though, is what do you do in the course of your life if you think, well, that's how... Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know about that.
Some people... I'm not sure.
Ezekiel gets assumed to heaven on a on a fiery chariot.
Yeah.
Some of them end up badly.
You know what happened to Elijah?
What happened to him?
Sawn in half with a wooden saw.
Great, but probably he probably didn't feel it because he's Elijah and and if you're a bit like the Saint that has been toasted on one side and then on the griddle and then says, you know, turn me over.
I'm done on that side.
And I like to be, you know, yes.
Send your I'd love to be able to have that attitude.
I do.
I mean, I'd love to I'd love to have the faith where where you can just like Be chucked into the lion's den and, or like Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, you can be chucked into the fiery furnace.
Doesn't affect you because you've got such total faith in God.
That would be the ideal.
That would be the ideal.
Yes, it will be.
You were saying something earlier, which I kind of agreed with, or you were hinting at this anyway, that on my Telegram channel, as you know, there is division between the Catholics always, always pushing the Mother Church.
They really do think they've got a monopoly on Christianity.
They think Catholicism is Christianity.
And the Orthodox people, like yourself, are going, No, we are, we are the, we are the, the original, the original.
The original church man.
The original church.
And, and, and then you've got, then you've got the, the, the Calvinists who are just like hardcore, you know, we've got the Sorms, as they call them, the Sorms.
Right, Sorms.
And we're, we're John Knox and.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and, and, and then you've got the, Well, the hardcore Protestants who like him.
Lutherans.
We've got rid of all this Catholic stuff, you know, it's all, you know, Mary, you venerate Mary and basically she's Ashtoreth and Baphomet, you know, she's just like Constantine never really converted to Christianity, he was just a, and look, you've got an Asherah pole in the middle of Vatican Square, so yeah, you can talk, And I think, guys, guys!
Guys, calm down!
We're on the same team!
Yeah, well actually, that's why, because when you say, because I'm, even though I'm Orthodox, baptised Russian Orthodox, Father Alexander, who is like my main, M-E-N, who is like my, baptised me, he was, he says what you're saying, which is that we all need to...
Come on, guys.
If Christ... Christ is the... He describes it as, even though he's ecumenical about various parts of Christianity, he says that Christ is the one who reaches his hand down to us to pull us up.
Yes.
And that's all you need to... that's all you really need to know.
That's good, that's good.
Otherwise it does get quite difficult because everyone's so sure about their own particular team, their football team.
And I have doubts, you know, even though I am, I mean, I had, I don't know if you read on my, on my substack, I wrote about a dream I had 20 years ago, so after, about 10 years after I was baptised, and it was so vivid, James, I don't know what you think about this dream, it was vivid, it was like I was there, I haven't had one like it before or since.
I'm in a crowd of people and it's not modern times so I wrote this when I had the dream I wrote it down so I'm in a crowd of people it's and there's a teacher there's a man speaking a teacher and he's speaking to the crowd and at one point somebody asks a question and the and some of the crowd laugh and jeer at the person that's asked the question and the teacher the man
Chastises them and says you're not to and then in the next part of the dream the same man The teacher says the following, this is in the dream, he says, don't trust anybody who won't show you their palms.
Very clear in this dream.
And so he did this sort of gesture with his, you know, held his hands out.
And then in the next part of the dream, so it's quite a short, when I wrote it down, it's quite succinct, but very clear.
I'm in a room.
So a very plain room and I'm folding a white cloth with other women.
There's about four, I think four or five women and we're folding a cloth and that's the end of the dream.
That was the end of it.
But honestly, I told this dream to people, very religious people, including the Russian lady I lived with when I was in Moscow, Katya Genieva.
And she said, I haven't had a dream like that.
It's quite unusual.
And she said, I think you've been blessed with this dream.
And so when I did it on my podcast, I recounted it and wrote it.
I said to the listeners, I said, I feel sort of like an imposter telling you this because I don't want it to be sort of self-congratulatory.
You know, like, surely she hath been chosen by the, you know, because maybe because I don't feel worthy.
But hang on.
If that makes any sense.
I'm loving the dream.
Yeah, you like the dream?
What do you think?
I don't know what it means.
I think that at the end you are folding the shroud.
Christ's shroud.
I felt like a real sense that it was telling me something about Christ.
Yes, and it sounds like, it does sound like not a normal dream.
Yes.
It's sort of, the fact it's split into three parts.
And I hadn't had anything before or since, that's the weird thing, is that if I was kind of, you know, having these very vivid dreams, but it was very clear, everything was clear, you know, and I, yeah.
Perhaps I misunderstood the run-up to your description of the dream.
I thought you were suggesting that this dream would have given you doubts, but it sounds like it ought to have given you certainty.
Yes, no, you're absolutely right.
Thank you for reminding me of that.
I'm... I struggle... I think it's... I think because I'm, you know, I'm an honest person, I'm so honest about my... that I'm not like Alistair.
Like he said, I'm not sure if I will get there because I see Christianity as more like a practical thing we can use every day.
Defence against dark arts.
Expelliarmus!
Expelliarmus!
Get out of here!
I said to somebody the other day, going out and speaking to the likes of the cab driver and Ted and nurses who were forced to have this awful coercion to having this death shot, talking to people is like Christ spreading the gospel, isn't it?
Yeah!
That's the way I look at it, is that it's practical.
So I try and move away from... I suppose when I'm saying doubts, I mean doubts about the more, shall we say, more dramatic Old Testament part, you know, the sort of rapture and also the bookishness of... Because Father Alexander, in a book that I'm reading, says that it's not to do with books and Not necessarily sort of academic academia.
It's to do with practical everyday stuff.
Stuff that you, you know, you know the stuff that you, when you find yourself sitting on your own and you sort of think, right, I'm going to do a little bit of thinking here and go, maybe go sit in a quiet garden or something.
I mean you've already admitted it to me, you're borderline illiterate.
Exactly, I'm borderline illiterate.
God blessed you with your incredible, this gave you this incredible flaw in order to enable you to go out into the world as an ordinary person.
Yes, an ordinary person who goes, hello, I'd like to speak to you today about evil.
But I mean, you know, I can, I mean, I read, but I'm, I'm, as I'm reading, and obviously I get, I get, I sometimes think to myself, but I could be out talking to People that, fellow human beings, people that need to, need some, I don't know, some soccer, need, well, you know, talking to people about their experiences the last three years.
There's a kind of, I suppose, yeah, in my, and again, I don't know what branch of Christianity this would be in, even though I am Orthodox, is I like the idea of just getting out and about, mingling with the Abby, I think, look, if I were your father confessor, which I hasten to stress I'm not, but if I were, I'd be saying, you know, go out and carry on doing what you're doing.
You're doing a great job.
You said something earlier which reminds me of this, that stuff we're good at and stuff we're bad at and why we're...
Why is it?
Why us?
What is it about us that makes us?
I've got this theory, I can't remember, it's Delingpole's third or fourth or fifth law, which are the things that make us crap are also the things that make us good.
So, for example, I have a very, very short attention span.
I don't like detail, but I'm really very good at intuition.
And well, no, I hate the word intuition because it implies like, oh, I've just got, you know, I've just sensed it.
I'm good.
I'm good at big, big, big picture stuff.
I'm very good at pattern recognition.
I think the degree I did.
or certainly the version of the degree I did enabled me to spot spot patterns and it was a very good good training and It enables me to spot a conspiracy a mile off without having to kind of trouble myself over much with the details because once you see the serial killers Trademarks you you don't need to go into details about yeah, oh Oh, he's got the he's arranged the the antlers in a particular Circle and yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh that that that that's that that pentagram and and the way inverted.
Yeah, just like that Yeah, duh, it's another conspiracy.
Yes.
The thing that stops, the things that makes you prefer snake bite to Anna Karenina is part of your gift.
Yeah.
And we've all got these gifts and it's like, it's a blessing because it enables you to cut to the chase and do what you want to do.
Yeah.
Rather than doing what you feel you ought to do.
Yes, that's a really good way of putting it.
And also, I was thinking, you know, it's okay.
I think sometimes people do like to, and I've been guilty of this, definitely not in the recent past, but of sort of saying, oh yes, I must, I should have read more Tolstoy, you know, War and Peace, or Dostoevsky in Russian.
I should have read, you know, because obviously I've read bits of it, bits of stuff in Russian, but also, Knowing who you are.
Being comfortable in your own body, in your own, the way you think about the world.
I mean, be prepared to say sometimes, I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that.
And I think a lot of people would have, would, it would be a lot better if sometimes people said, I don't, I don't really know, don't really know the answer to that.
Because actually I'm, I'm terrible.
You know, if somebody, if somebody asked me to do something, I will very often just go, yeah, yes, yes.
And then of course, three days later, I think, shit, I shouldn't really have said yes.
Because there's that thing of thinking, oh yes, I'll be available.
And then really what people should say is, let me have a think about it.
Just in general.
Yeah.
But I mean, I have got some books.
James goes, that's good.
At least two of my podcast guests have died.
I reckon were probably not unrelated to the jibby jab.
I can't be certain.
But one of them was this fantastic guy called Steve Wichit who specialised in NLP.
I mean, NLP, I think, can be used for neuro-linguistic programming.
It can be used for good or evil.
I think he used it for good.
But he used to talk about this quality called congruence.
And congruence is what you really want to achieve because congruence means you're comfortable in yourself.
I think it's another way of putting it would be happy in your skin.
And I wonder, Whether being happy in your skin is not unakin to doing the thing that Christians are enjoined to do, which is to Have a good moral compass.
And I think if you if you are happy that phrase, how can you sleep at night?
How can you sleep at night?
So many people are doing jobs doing things that make it hard for them to sleep at night because they know their moral conscience tells them.
That what they are doing is wrong and no matter how much they try and sell themselves, yeah, but it's my job and it kind of you've got to do this to get on and if I didn't do it, somebody else would be doing it probably worse than I would be and you know, I had to give them the midazolam because that's what the practice code said I had to do and yeah, okay.
Some of them died.
Not all of them died.
But I've got three kids and I live in a tiny flat and I'm being paid a minimum wage and I've got no choice in inverted commas.
Which by the way, had you read Crime and Punishment, is the kind of thing that Raskolnikov talks about.
He kind of justifies to himself, he finds a way of justifying why actually it's okay to bludgeon an elderly woman and her niece to death, because actually he's a kind of Napoleonic figure and actually the money that he will get from doing this will enable him to do lots of good things afterwards.
Yes, exactly.
It's going to look justifying.
I've read Crime and Punishment, and you know the policeman that is on his trail, Columbo, is based on the copper, on the policeman.
I don't know if anyone knows that.
That's just a bit of random information that I've got.
All these people go, I was going to read Crime and Punishment, but now I know that Raskolnikov kills his landlady and... Exactly, what have we done?
But I mean, isn't it, it's just, I love that, but I love that book because it's the idea that your punishment is that you will always have the crime, this is what I hope MPs of all, all of them, anyone that's been involved in the House of Commons, I don't care who they are, Bridgen, the rest of them.
I hope that the weight of it is so awful that they sort of fall to their knees and say, mea culpa, because the weight of that guilt, you know, must eventually, you know, do something.
It's always there, isn't it?
It's like a sort of like, little buzzing, little whispers like, oh God, how do people live with that?
I think it's a really interesting question.
And there are so many people like that.
It's not just the MPs, it's lawyers, it's doctors, it's nurses, it's teachers.
Yeah, teachers who were gung-ho about it all.
I mean, if someone could do a kind of national, well actually international sleep analysis and see how much sleep people are getting.
Even with their consciences, I bet they're getting too much sleep because frankly these people should just... Yeah.
What are you, I mean, yeah, what are you?
It's really, yeah, it's hard because what is the, I mean, I'm, the whole kind of forgiveness thing, again, I rest, that's obviously a big Christian question, this forgiveness thing.
And I, you know, I think a lot about the people at the TEDs, at this world, people I've spoken to, And I just think, and people that were forced or, you know, coerced into taking this, this thing multiple times, this injection.
And I do, and also the fact that there is an MP who it's, I know we have possibly differing views on.
Andrew Pritchard.
Andrew.
Andrew, yeah.
And my reason for going hard on him and Dr. John Campbell, who by the way made a lot of money, a million quid on his YouTube channel, I'm doing it wrong.
I'm so doing it wrong.
You're doing it wrong.
You need to push some experimental gene therapies.
And by the way, John Campbell has just released a video about the Nuremberg Code.
I shit you not.
So having made all the money pushing the vaccines onto people, saying this is a great thing, is now talking about the kind of stuff that I'm talking about.
Because these people, honestly James, they're trying to Distance themselves from the crimes.
And I think one of the reasons, in Bridgen's case, but I mean not just singling him out but as an example, he said I think earlier this year that he'd helped stop six-month-old to four-year-old jabs.
Yeah.
Now, actually, that's not true, because the jab still carried on.
So there was no cessation of these jabs.
And actually, then I had a message from somebody the other day saying, because he'd said that publicly, as a sort of badge of honour, the problem was then that attention was taken away from the six-month to four-year-olds, and actually now boosters are being given.
So it's I think if you're going to be somebody that sort of stands apart from the establishment, then you have to stand apart.
You have to say, I reject all of it.
I don't want to be in Reclaim.
I don't want to be anywhere near any of the dog sick that I referred to earlier.
I just, I'm going to be, stand apart and And, you know, how about just going round and meeting, I don't know, some of the people, like the TEDs of this world, the people that, you know, that were, that were suffered from, you know, died of fear, died of fear that the government peddled.
So, I mean, that's my, that's my thing.
And also, I, I've come to the conclusion that the reason that some, that some of the people, some people have apologised, in inverted commas, for what they did is because they don't understand the crimes that they've been involved in.
They don't actually understand the seriousness of them.
That's why they can say, oh, I regret doing this.
Yes.
But I mean, we all could, couldn't we, if the apology suited the crime?
You know, for instance, say, I don't know, I said something mean to you, I'd go, sorry, James, that was out of order.
And you say, well, that's all right, Abs.
But if I'd said, coerced your dad, Or into having multiple, if I'd sort of gone along with that for two and a half years and also voted for compulsory injections for nurses and care home, I think it would be a completely different level of apology.
That's, do you know what, thank you for... I hope I've been succinct.
No, thank you for explaining something which has always puzzled me, which is that there's never been such a rift.
I've never lost so many kind of, probably lost, you know, a dozen or so many people from my telegram group was over the issue of, is Andrew Bridgen, or is he not evil?
And I, sort of my view, Was really we all we all went through a went through our normal phases as it were when we believe the system and then we saw the light.
So why judge anyone from before they saw the light?
But I see your point that you feel that he didn't show enough contrition for the monumental nature of his crime.
Not just that, he's said things which are actually factually untrue.
Right.
Even now, even now.
So I mean, so this is a, but I mean, I don't, I don't want to, um, you know, this to descend into a sort of, you know, into a kind of, um, slagging, slagging, slagging match, slagging match even.
Um, but yeah, so that, that troubles me.
Uh, the, the, the, It's not the, it's not the, if people show remorse then it's up to us, we the people, which by the way I'm doing a new edition of, you know my little book, e-book with Bob's cartoons, I'm doing a new version of that which will be out in October.
When I say out, it won't, it's not in Waterstones either, it's not, I mean it's, it's, it's not, I'm not going to make any money from it, eh?
Exactly!
It definitely would be, you know, people to hand to whoever, their doctor or whatever, to read the stories.
But it's more the fact that some of the people that the so-called Johnny-come-latelys, you know, the Bridgen, Campbell, etc., Malhotra, I think of them as the three, like the beginning of a terrible joke.
There's the nurse, the cardiologist and the MP walking to a bar.
They're still in the narrative in a weird way.
So they're talking about the pandemic.
So it's weird.
It's like they've got one foot still in the... And surely by now, James, if you've seen what's going on, which is pretty obvious by now, you would be as far away from that, the narrative, as you possibly could.
Well, you know what?
This brings us full circle, and I'm wriggling, which means I'm dying for a pee.
Yes, I can see you wriggling.
Yeah, I do wriggle.
Like a toddler!
But it does bring us full circle, which is why I find it increasingly hard to be tolerant towards or break bread with The people that the Tobes is that whatever who are who are not Going full Abbey on this who are not saying yeah, this is outrageous.
These people are evil I've even do you know what I've even got less and less time for there's a certain kind of sort of awake person Who doesn't understand the spiritual nature of this conflict.
And I used to be, yeah, well it's fine, you can understand it in the level of the materium if you want to, and that's okay, that's good, you're part of the team.
Now I'm thinking, no, you really don't get it, and actually your refusal to get it, it makes you part of the problem.
Because if you don't get that these people are drinking the blood of children, literally, and that they are not, if you don't get that they are not literally in the service of Satan or Lucifer or whatever, Yes.
Then kind of you're missing, you don't get anything.
You don't get anything.
And also that the crimes are crimes of principle, so coercion, lack of, you know, all those things.
Before, like I said, before we forget what's in these, in the injections, if we're going back to injections, it's the methods that were used are the crimes.
And I've only just, maybe a year ago, I've only just started to, you know, encapsulate What's the word?
Really, really honing on that, on that little thing.
But yeah, I mean, they are, you know, evil bastards.
And I think it's because we're just not used to, you know, I think we all thought, oh, well, tyranny, it's only for the Soviets, China under Mao.
It's not for us.
We'll be OK.
That's why.
You know what?
That's what so bloody annoys me about, OK, Toby Young.
Douglas Murray.
Charles Moore.
Sam Harris.
Sam Harris.
You name them.
Any columnist.
It's always, look at these tyrants in these foreign countries.
Fraser Milton.
And we are the Anglosphere and we're much better than them.
Hang on a second.
Were you looking at what was happening in In Victoria, in Melbourne, where you had women, pregnant women, being arrested for drinking cups of coffee.
Yeah.
No.
Camps.
Actual camps.
Actual camps.
In Victoria.
And you're thinking what?
How did you not notice it?
Did it not sort of cause a sort of a trill in your educated brain that made you go, hang on a second, this looks a bit like, a bit like the sort of thing that happened in all those countries that, in your articles you say were bad examples from history.
Germany and Austria, they were getting children to stand up in, I think it was Germany, no, Austria, they used to get children to stand up in front of, in class and say whether their parents had been vaccinated or not.
I mean, doesn't that sound a little bit like sort of Mao?
You know, the children telling on the parents?
Do you know, as Toby said, it rhymes with, I think it rhymes with Mao.
I mean it's exactly so it's so bizarre that like I said that the people but I think it's because people just do not they cannot believe that the West I think Douglas Murray needs to rewrite or add a paragraph, add a chapter, that the war on the West, it should be the West's war on its own people.
Yes, I agree.
That would be more interesting to me, you know, and who am I?
I mean, like you said, I'm not a book person.
Can you imagine how easily it would be published and how promoted it would be by the publishing industry, which is controlled by the cabal?
I don't think so.
Exactly.
But I'd buy it.
Yeah, I'd be a bit surprised if he ever wrote it.
I'd be really surprised, actually.
But yeah, I'd be saying fair play.
But there's hope, maybe, sort of.
Yeah, like Snowball's chance in hell.
So, Abby, I would go on, but as you know I need to urinate.
I know you do.
Tell us where we can find your product.
My product, Janet, my product placement.
Well, you can find me on Substack.
So that's abbyroberts.substack.com.
Abbey Daily, you can listen to my podcast.
You can find me on, thank you, my darling, on da Twitter.
You can find me there.
I always go into an Irish accent, by the way, when I say da Covid.
You know, when we talk about Covid, say da Covid.
Because I've started this thing now, da Covid, it's kind of making a mockery of it.
Which it should be.
Where else?
So Twitter, until Elon decides to charge, you know, decides to funnel us all into a kind of weird digital currency.
What else?
Oh God, where else would I be?
I think that's probably about it.
Oh, Cathy Crunt.
I sell merch there.
There's merch, you know, Woke Zero is one of my t-shirts.
It looks like the Coca-Cola ad.
Woke Zero.
Oh good, I like that.
And Stay Stupid is Cathy, you know, my newsreader.
I do.
Her, basically her, what do you call it?
Her... Shtick.
Oh.
No.
Shtick.
Her saying.
What's the word?
Catchphrase.
Her catchphrase.
Bloody hell.
We're of the same kind of generation.
If I hadn't been squeezing my legs together, crossing my legs.
Yes, I know, I know.
Listen, you've got to go because you're like a terrier who needs a wee.
I discover to my horror, I mean...
And I like him.
Tom Holland now gets £70,000 a month for his The Rest is History podcast.
Really?
Yeah, which is produced by Gary Lineker, which is talking about getting in bed with the devil.
I like Tom and I don't begrudge him his living.
I'd just like to say, people, If you like my podcast, I do not get a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what Tom gets, but I really... I do think you should support me.
Yes, please do.
And at least enable me to earn a living from this thing that I do, that you love, and you know you love it.
I mean, don't, don't not... I've done enough podcasts by now for you to know that I am not, I'm not crap.
Not Satan, are you going to say?
You probably would like to support me, and I am batting for the right team, so please.
Yeah.
Locals, Subscribestar, Patreon, BuyMeACoffee.
And also, if you want to advertise, I'm really rubbish about this, but if you want to advertise, I know some of you have written to me and I haven't written back yet, but you can advertise on my podcast and my rates are...
They're reasonable and I reach about 40,000 people of the right sort of people.
So it's a good deal.
Support my sponsors and yeah, support me and support Abby.
Thank you very much.
Abby, I love this podcast so much.
Yeah, me too.
I loved it.
And I'm so sorry about the last one where, for technical reasons, it never ran because it didn't upload properly.
Yeah, there was a glitch in the matrix.
This one has, by the way.
It's uploading.
Oh, okay, great.
What do I do?
Do I do anything, James?
I don't want to fuck it up.
I think you're 99% uploaded and I think so... Brilliant!
Just wait for the final bit and then we'll... I'm going to stop now.
