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June 22, 2023 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Dick Delingpole
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Welcome to The Dennypod with me, James Dennypole.
And I know I always say I'm excited about this big special guest, but can you see?
That's my not excited expression.
Do you know why?
Because it's not a special guest.
It's just a guest.
Dick.
It's Dick.
Hello everyone and brother.
There are various things I want to talk to you about, various important things.
First of all, how impressed are you that I'm pretty much almost on time, the time we said?
Well, to be fair to you, I didn't even see the message where you said, do you fancy doing a podcast tomorrow?
And you sent me that yesterday and I didn't respond and you phoned me at work and I said, yeah, why not?
Got no plans.
So you had forewarned me by at least a day and you had it up and running ready for three o'clock, which is so totally unlike you.
I know, it's almost... Meanwhile, I'm becoming a little bit shitter by the day.
I'm forgetting things and like today, see that bump on my head?
Oh, ouch!
Ouch!
I forgot, I was doing backstroke in the pool and I forgot to stop when I came to the end, which obviously is embarrassing.
Have you...
Our pool, which is really, really small.
When I say our pool, I don't mean our personal pool, I mean the one in our gym place.
No, the pool that you go to.
It's a crappy health spa pool rather than a real pool.
It's got a mirror on the ceiling so that when you're doing backstroke you know how far... Have you got that in your pool?
No, no, just the struts of the ceiling, even though it's a modern pool.
It's a municipal one, but you've got flags to warn you when there's sort of like 10 metres left.
And I passed under the flags and something in my mind told me that it was the halfway mark, until it went clunk and my head hit the end.
But I didn't realise I'd done damage until later on at work.
And of course, not having any hair, you've got no buffer zone at all.
But yeah, so I'm keeping in mind while you're improving.
I'm sure they've been chemtrailing us and other stuff massively.
I just find that my state of health and my feeling of well-being varies dramatically from day to day for no obvious reason.
I might wake up feeling absolutely shit, despite the fact that I've just gone to bed early as usual and read a bit of the Bible and a bit of Anna Karenina and a bit of the Psalms, which is what I do.
You know, so it's not like I've been deserving waking up feeling ill.
I just think it's that they're sort of approaching their endgame where they just think, right, let's just see how much poison they can get in their system without complaining about it.
Well, you know, some of it we now know where it's coming from.
So, you know, I had a tooth out the other day.
And halfway through trying to extract it, the dentist announced that he was going to have to try and section it.
Which is a polite way of saying he's going to have to cut it in half while it's still in my mouth.
Not that your tooth is mentally ill.
No, that was the other interpretation.
That might have been more pleasant, but cutting it in half while still in there, and it's one of these teeth that had an amalgam filling in it, and it wasn't until he got it out, yeah, until he showed it to me, and it's two halves, and he'd gone right the way through an amalgam, and I said, Was there any other way around sawing through an amalgam filling?
And he said, oh, you know, we got very good suction going on and, you know, all upgraded since COVID, blah, blah, blah.
I think he was a little bit surprised that I knew about the health implications of of vaporizing that sort of thing in your mouth but I've been looking out for the side effects of this ever since and but he said yeah it was the only way I could do it it was the least worst option which is the way he put it but not much of an improvement.
So how long ago was that?
What's that?
- How long ago was that? - What sort of thing should I be looking at? - Hmm? - What's that?
- How many days ago was it? - 10 days ago now.
Funnily enough, my worst... When I had all my amalgams out, not using holistic dentists, because I should have done, but I was just like, right, I've had it, I want to get rid of them all, that's it, go, go, out, out, now.
My peak awfulness was when I spoke, rather annoyingly, at Stroud One of my favourite speaking events.
They were so good and I loved them very much.
But I turned up and I was feeling really quite ropey and that was ten days after my thing.
You may get off Scott Freedick, you just don't know.
Yeah, well, it's sort of... I look out for these things, and... It could be the weather, it could be chemtrails, it could be anything, but... I'm fairly wired right now, because I've just come back from... You know you have a buy-me-a-coffee thing?
Yes.
Yeah?
When you ask your Patreons and what have you to buy you a coffee.
Well, you have just bought a coffee, and I drank it.
So I just thought I'd inform you about that, and it was my... That's really good, Dick.
Oh, by the way, I wanted to... There are other housekeeping issues.
It was from Pete and Gemma at the Commandery Café, by the way, which does the best cakes in Worcester, so get yourself down to the Commandery Café and say hello to Pete and Gemma, who are lovely people and on-side as well.
Big up to them, woo woo woo.
I think we always like tips of places to go where you can be with awake people, it's so nice.
Just the vibe is, well we can talk more about this, about Abigail's party in a moment, but where of course everyone was shining that radiant pure light you get from people who've gone, who are simultaneously down the rabbit hole and have got God, and probably have had a few spliffs as well, but I think you can.
I think you can tell.
We'll come back to that.
Do you know why I'm wearing this shirt today?
You know what?
I can't see you at the moment, because the internet you normally accuse your interviewees of having is shit, is playing up on your side.
So I'm currently looking at a sign saying, recording continues smoothly, live video will return when their internet... Oh fuck, you know what?
I'm doing... I'm on shit... I'm on shitternet.
I'm gonna change... I'm glad it's you this time.
It's really, really bad.
Hey, it wouldn't be a Deling Pod unless there were tech issues, would it?
Oh, it's so annoying.
You'd be trigonometry otherwise.
I don't know what to do now.
Have you just changed it?
No.
I'm about to.
Right.
Does that happen seamlessly or do we have to stop?
Or...
This is the point at which I'm losing my shit when you're doing it with other people.
And I'm thinking, why did you do this?
And I know you hate it when your viewers are getting angry at this.
Do you know what?
Okay, so let me explain briefly.
This drives me absolutely... Look, I think we've discussed this before.
All technology is designed to absolutely mess with our heads and they deliberately do bad things to mess you up.
It's not accidental.
Yeah.
We agree on that.
Okay, so I've got my shitternet, which is my basic BT coming through, you know, What, lead pipes?
Probably terracotta pipes.
Terracotta pipes, dial-up speed.
And then, is that the phrase?
Dial-up speed?
That's going way back to when you and I used to play Warcraft with each other.
And then, I've got the evil Elon Musk.
I've got his Starlink.
And the Starlink has many, many megabytes per second.
It's amazing if you're in the right room.
But you accept the price that you are part of his spy network and he's going to press the button one day and it's going to zap you.
You have to accept that, the price you pay for doing a podcast.
Anyway, the point is, I always use the Starlink thing.
Some days, for no obvious bloody reason at all, it defaults to the BT internet thing.
Right.
And...
Normally, I would go, right, I'm going to get, what I notice is, because obviously the internet's slow, I then say, right, I'm going to go back on to Starlink.
But then what my wife might say to me is, no, don't!
I've been having internet trouble all day!
I can't do my work, and you can't go on, don't change anything!
And I forget.
So I'm stuck on Shitternet through the terracotta pipes.
Well, this is where I get the benefit of being a suburban dweller.
I get your super-fast fibre broadband what-have-you, including a son in the attic who's no doubt playing Final Fantasy XIV at top speed, and I'm still doing this.
So, yeah, I mean, I do appreciate that I'm lucky enough to have that here.
Have you switched it now?
Because I can see you quite clearly.
Yeah, obviously I've switched it.
I didn't know you could do that right.
So I was asking you, do you know why I'm wearing this shirt?
Because you are about to lead a jungle patrol in Naam.
Yeah, that would be it, wouldn't it?
I think actually wearing this shirt would be more like Malaya, wouldn't it?
I would have thought.
This looks like something an army officer might have worn in Malaya in the 1950s.
You could be French Army in Vietnam.
That would be good.
That would be good.
Well, and bad as well.
It doesn't look like US to me.
No, French.
The reason I'm wearing this shirt is because boy Delingpole is currently away and he's banned me from wearing it because apparently my arms are too skinny.
And until, apparently, I work out in the gym more, I'm not allowed to wear it.
So I'm sneaking and wearing.
The only good thing he says about my arms is that they are very vascular.
I know, you can't see it, can you?
Neither of us are particularly muscular.
There are no muscular people in our family.
Like Iggy Pop.
Good for smack addiction.
The other thing, the final piece of housekeeping I wanted to talk about was, you may have noticed that I did not do an advert for our friends Hunter & Gather this time.
And this is because it turns out I'd done too many.
I was meant to do it every other week.
And I think I may have broken their bank.
So we put it on hold for a few episodes.
They still like me and I still like their products.
The feeling is mutual between all of us because I actually put in an order with them the other day and I bought some more ghee, some more mayo.
I was supposed to buy their new ketchup.
But I forgot.
But I paid for it, and I used your discount.
The discount through this.
Did you?
So these things do work?
These things do work, even if it's only between us.
So many people are catching on to the seed oil thing.
Hunter and Gather aside, having chats with people, people are waking up to the seed oil thing.
So that's got to be a good thing.
Totally.
Totally.
So what I wanted to say was, while I've got a few gaps, if anyone out there wants to sponsor me a podcast, My traffic's not bad, actually.
The thing we use to sell to advertisers, because people pay per thousand listeners or viewers, and we've got 35,000 sort of regular rock-solid guaranteed at the moment.
I think it's pretty good.
That's very good.
I mean, is that across all viewable possibilities, like YouTube and Spotify and whatever else you're on?
I don't think I'm viewed very much on YouTube these days because they've effectively barred me.
I would never seem to look for you there, but a lot of people who've said they're no longer on it seem to be available occasionally on there.
Anyway, so if you want to reach the kind of people that watch this podcast and they're going to, I mean, face it, they're going to be more fanatical and you're probably going to get a higher uptake of your produce than... I mean, I am going to do...
One of my... I'm just going to give him a free taster thing.
One of my listeners does this olive oil called Eleanthi and he sent me some and it's really nice.
But I think I'm going to say to him, look, he's offered to sponsor a podcast and I haven't just got my act together and said, look, yeah, let's do it.
So that's me chalking myself out of money already.
So I'm going to... This is more of a memo to self.
To say yes, please do sponsor a podcast because that's good, but anyone else out there who wants to Advertise their wares get in touch Yeah, my email is jamesdellingpole at iCloud.com Have you thought of approaching Bud Light?
I am very similar.
Yeah, I like Bud Light a lot.
I like their values.
Mm-hmm.
They've got values that I can I can share.
Get behind, yeah.
- Don't get behind me, Bud Light.
So, I was gonna say what's been happening, but I'm sure that our main point of interest is Abigail's party.
I'd never thought to call her Abigail and therefore turning her recent birthday bash in London to Abigail's party, but of course it was.
I always call her Abigail.
She's an obvious Abigail to me.
Abigail Roberts, the comedian, popular comedienne and freedom fighter.
I don't even know what Abby is short for.
Is Abby short for anything other than Abigail?
I don't see how it can be, but it's one of those things, isn't it?
I never thought to go for the full... It's like Dick and Richard.
I'm never Richard.
Except to my wife.
No, and also, if you were Richard, you would deny people endless, endless jokes.
Endless dick jokes, basically.
The girls love your name.
Abby is a case in point.
Abby loves her dick jokes.
And this is partly why I'm used to introduce her shows when we do comedy things.
Yes.
The dick jokes abound.
But yeah, it was a struggling party.
Obviously, no one likes having to struggle their way down to London, but me and Andy had an incredibly smooth journey down there.
Our sister managed to make it all the way from South Wales, and it all came together quite nicely.
Yeah, but you know she got trapped on the way back.
Well, she did leave very late, but... Well, do you know why?
Why?
Because she ended up hanging out with Charlotte and Wayne, getting drunk.
When you've been given a lift, the upside is you've got a free lift.
The downside is you are dependent on your lift.
Be careful who you get a lift with!
It was with Baroness Charlotte Burnley and Evil Wayne.
Sorry, we don't want to make this too in-joke, do we?
Because not everyone knows who Charlotte and Evil Wayne are.
But apparently Charlotte went in to help Abbey clear up and Abbey insisted that they have a few sharpeners, a few Bloody Marys.
And they didn't leave till 7 o'clock to get back to Wales, which is a late start.
We left at three and I hadn't planned on even leaving that late.
But we, my particular party, we, as you know, we did a little trip to the local Methodist church.
And at 11 o'clock we had a lovely service.
It was, you know, there's only a dozen or so people even there, and I only knew one of the hymns, but it was a really nice service.
And the preacher, whatever they call them in Methodist churches, because it's not a vicar, but he's a Tongan.
They're called the Eclector, I think.
Does that sound plausible?
No.
Eclector.
The Eclector was wearing a shirt and tie and a Tongan skirt.
And he's an ex-rugby player.
And two of his sons, in fact, play rugby for England.
And anyone who knows anything about rugby will be screaming their name at the screen right now.
So he's up there.
Joe Nolomu, they'll be saying.
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
But it was very good, and it was fire and brimstone, never strayed from gospel, it was no opinion bollocks, it was no climate change, Black Lives Matter, rainbow flag, none of that stuff.
And we all came out feeling very uplifted by it, not least because of Christine's friend, Kwaku, who is a Nigerian Catholic, Who plays the organ at this place, at this particular church.
He's absolutely brilliant and so after the service we were stood around him for a while while he was just playing along on the organ and we were chatting with him and he was taking it all in and he's a fellow warrior on the awake front.
All in all, it was that whole sort of, like, God plus rebels plus good people plus good experiences, good music.
It was one of those little things that we wouldn't have had had we not made the effort to get down to London for Abbey's Party.
So that's why it's important to do these things, because unless you're leaving your home and actually making the effort to put yourself out there, you're not going to get these things.
Right.
So I've got two questions.
the Tongan eclectal, did he, before his sermon, did he go...
Please tell me he did.
All right, I'll tell you he did, because it will make you...
Okay, good for you.
And my second question is, did Kwaku play... I bet he could.
He's very good at what he does.
Would have been good.
Is that called Toccata and Fugue or is that a different one?
You've now just gone slightly beyond.
I should know that sort of thing, because that's one of the basics, isn't it?
Yeah.
It is.
So, OK.
And I don't know what I think about the Methodists.
I mean, I suppose it's down to individual churches, isn't it?
It is, very much.
Because I think, by and large, if you're going to see a rainbow flag at a church, it's going to be the Methodists.
They're the ones that have taken on that most readily.
But this particular church, I think it's all down to the particular Eclector.
Eclector?
Yeah.
Eclector.
I think it's down to them how their church is and theirs isn't.
And I think the blacker the church, the more the congregation is black, the less likely they are to take on the bollocks.
So if you want a good church experience, seek out a good black congregation and you'll be among friends.
The vibe I get is that the black community are not dramatically into LGBT+.
It's so funny, isn't it?
Because the Church of England so wants more black vicars.
And then the black vicars turn up and they're people like Calvin Robinson and they go...
Not like that!
Not that kind of black vicar.
He's the wrong kind.
We want the woke ones.
And if you're going to get them, especially from Africa, they're not going to be woke.
They're going to be conservative and they're going to be straight down the line gospel type.
So, yeah.
Be careful what you wish for, Church of England.
Yeah.
I've just remembered what... So Abbie's party, Abigail's party, started at four o'clock.
Technically at about four o'clock.
I was like, I looked at this and I thought, hang on a second, you expect me to get a leave pass from the wife to go to this party of, you know, people she will naturally assume are my crazy, crazy people.
And so that would mean leaving home at about two o'clock.
You expect me to get there?
There's got to be... Okay, what's happening?
Is there a set by Alastair Williams and the rest of the gang?
What ends up being a... Anyway, I was very glad that I turned up at six.
Because I realise that I'm a great believer in pacing myself.
As I get older, particularly, I just can't hack it.
And what was the first thing I saw when I arrived?
Me with my head between my knees having a whitey, I think.
Yes, exactly.
Tell us the story, Dick.
What had happened?
I don't know if I can and staying sort of acceptable and legal, but I'd had a couple of pints and then I had the thing that makes you have whiteys and I just did.
Yeah, but you'd had two varieties.
One of them was common or garden, well actually not common or garden, quite specialist, but the other one was from California and you hadn't realised.
You'd been offered it as a kind of taste test, which do you prefer, Dick?
Yeah.
And you had walked straight into the trap and I was so grateful.
I was so grateful to you.
You were my test... I did it so you didn't have to.
My test dummy.
Yeah, exactly.
So do you know what I did?
Dummy is not the operative word here.
What did you do?
I walked into the bar thereafter and I was trying not to catch people's eyes because, you know, like when you arrive at a party you don't want to have instant conversations.
You want to have a drink and a fag.
Yeah, you want to settle.
You want to, yeah.
So I went to the bar and I ordered a pint of water and a half of the weakest IPA that they had on their menu.
What I liked about the pub was even though it was a kind of Irish rebel pub, also it felt, you know, it had all that Irish writing on it and probably Schlante or something.
Schlanter, yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
It's a place where we'd be strung up, you know.
Under normal circumstances.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was very friendly and lovely.
Well, no, apparently it's been a rebel pub for quite a while, and they hosted the first London Third Wednesday there.
And they're quite keen to have them back, so we're possibly going to look into doing a second London Third Wednesday there.
But I got chatting with the landlord, and he's fantastic, and he had some relatives over who knew Ledbury really well, so they were really pleased to Can I say, I'm quite glad I missed the Lurcher conversation.
It was just generally a really lovely atmosphere and it was so warm that we just spent the whole evening outside, didn't we?
Can I say, I'm quite glad I missed the lurcher conversation.
Why is that?
Well, just because life is short.
Yeah.
And I know you like, I appreciate the value of lurchers.
They've got pointy snouts, and they run, and ruff, and bite you in an amusing way.
And they're very loving.
Yeah, very loving, very intelligent.
No, they're not.
They're not that intelligent.
But, I was much more immersed in just, like...
You arrive and you are surrounded by people who all think the same way as you.
Not that I do explain myself, I just pile straight in there anyway.
But for once you've got a totally receptive audience and you can talk about moon landings.
I had a good conversation with Bob about Atlantis.
And how Atlantis fits into the kind of the biblical understanding of the world.
We sort of weren't sure but we figured, because I think there probably was an Atlantis, I mean Plato mentions it, Plato either went there or had a relative that went there.
And I was thinking probably Atlantis, as described by Bob anyway, was actually the Garden of Eden.
It was great.
They were all happy.
This is so Bob told me.
He's been doing his research.
Ruled by ten kings, each island, all completely how you'd like a king to be.
Not your Satanist king, but actually good and noble and wise and peace-loving.
Fair.
Just.
And then, I suppose, Wormtongue got there, or Satan, or the snake, and whispered in their ears, and soon division arose, and the sea was so affronted by what had become of these previously peaceable, just, etc kingdoms, that it covered them up and erased Atlantis.
It went Sodom and Gomorrah on them.
Yeah, and that was the point where they fled Atlantis to do... I don't know.
It's a tricky one isn't it?
Working out which bits of Graham Hancock are true and which bits are kind of anti-God propaganda.
Because we're fighting two battles at the moment.
We're fighting, it seems to me, we're fighting the battle with the material realm, you know, the rulers of the darkness of this world, just the Schwabs and the Rockefellers and what have you.
We're fighting the earthly system.
But at the same time, we're also fighting the spiritual war whereby, and we're going to see this more and more, whereby our movement is co-opted by the New Agers and the Luciferians and stuff, and they're going to abuse our good faith.
They're going to steer us in directions towards the Antichrist.
So we're going to be divided in that.
So I think one has to be very, very wary of people like Hancock, who I think is great, but he's not... I think people who don't get that God is... we were created by God and Jesus is his only son, etc.
I think we have to be... not love them and everything, but just be wary of them.
Yeah, I get that.
And there's a lot of distractions and a lot of it is really appealing, but it's going to be, isn't it?
And it's not going to be obvious at first, but the more you... This is again why you have to get out there and talk to people and meet up with people who think the same way.
Not just do it online, but try to get out to these parties and gatherings and festivals and what have you to actually talk face-to-face and have these drunken, stoned conversations with people.
And you start to piece together more and more the whole picture.
If you're already a social creature like we both are, you're halfway there.
So if they take away our internet, we've still got these groups that are going to be the basis of the newly reformed society that will inevitably happen.
Have you considered the possibility that Donald Trump is the Antichrist?
No, but I'm sure a lot of his opponents have.
Yeah.
I was very much a King Charles, as we've learned to call him, being the Antichrist for any number of reasons.
But the factor against him being the Antichrist I can't ever see that tosser uniting the world.
I mean, you know, he's just so transparently ghastly.
Why would you suddenly think, wait, hang on a second, King Charles could be the answer.
He's a man of... No one's going to say that.
It said no one ever.
Yeah.
Are they?
No one's going to be looking at that gimp who got really bad.
You know, I mean, he's thick.
Yeah.
Thick, sick as well, probably.
He doesn't look like he's in the best of health.
So I don't see him, even though apparently all the kind of the heraldry and stuff indicates, I mean there's a guy on the internet obviously, an American, who's done endless podcasts explaining in laborious detail why King Charles is the Antichrist because blah blah blah, but I saw a thread the other day on
Trump being the Antichrist, and that... I found that... I didn't read it, obviously, because, you know... I mean, well, I did, I skimmed over it.
It's all to do with the confluences of, you know, the Gematria and the astrological thingamabobs and stuff.
It's stuff I really don't get, and how do you verify it?
How do you know?
I mean, that's another rabbit hole.
But the bit I found, when I thought about this, I thought, well, yeah, he could be the Antichrist, because after all, he's... Okay, so did you hear Tucker Carlson's latest monologue?
No, I haven't heard any of his monologues since he left Fox.
So he's done three so far, and his first one, It was huge!
Do you know how many it got?
It got many millions, didn't it?
Tens of millions, certainly.
And even the most recent ones, I think, have been in the early tens.
Anyway, I love Tucker, but one does have reservations about somebody from that background.
Like, we know that he considered joining the CIA, we know that Like, he could be a deep... even though he says the kind of stuff we like to hear, he could be a deep cover, couldn't he?
Well, you would have happily taken on the job of a spy if you'd been recruited while you were at Oxford.
Back then, I probably would, because I probably wouldn't have known... I would have thought that I was doing it for Queen and Country.
Yeah, well, can you not say the same for Tucker?
Yeah, totally.
I'm completely agnostic about him.
I personally find him charming and interesting and erudite and compelling.
I'm definitely team Tucker, but if somebody were to say, well, actually, here's the evidence that he is a deep cover agent, I wouldn't be going, who?
What?
Tucker?
So anyway, Tucker's monologue was really good and said many, many true things.
So you know that they're trying to put Trump away in prison forever at the moment?
Yeah.
The American Deep State.
Okay.
So, Tucker said, here is the moment when When Trump signed his own death warrant, or his own jail sentence, and he played an excerpt from a stump speech, I think, that Trump had made in 2016.
And Trump had said that the Iraq War had done no good to the Middle East, it was completely unnecessary, and anyway, there were no weapons of mass destruction, and everyone knew this.
Sorry, I will get to the point here.
Tucker's point was Trump had said the one thing you do not say in American politics.
You can talk about all the domestic stuff all you like, and the Republicans will say Republican things, and the Democrats will say Democrat things, but the one thing that unites Democrats and Republicans is any war, because they all benefit from it financially.
They're all hot for war, and they'll always support, and they'll always vote loads and loads and loads and loads of money for war, because war's great.
And so by being anti-war, Trump broke the rule that you're not allowed to be anti-war, because that's their money-making machine and their power machine.
It's basically the business model of the USA, isn't it?
I mean, along with child trafficking and drug trafficking.
Disaster capitalism is basically what the Americans do.
And probably what we in Britain did before then.
But the Americans are just even better at it.
They've got bigger budgets and stuff.
Trump has been very much against war with Putin, for example, which nobody else seems to be.
I mean, nobody else in the public eye that I can think of is against war with Putin, even though they should be, because none of us voted for it or are going to benefit from it in the slightest.
But I was listening to this and I was thinking, yeah, I love you, Tucker, you're fantastic, and I love what Trump's doing in this and I totally respect him, but Isn't that what the Antichrist would do?
Isn't this what Revelation tells us the Antichrist does?
The Antichrist comes in when things go really, really... It seems like things can't get any worse.
And in comes this guy who's got all the answers.
He's going to unite the world.
And he's going to save us all.
And what about, you know, the maverick guy, Guy Trump, who is against war and stuff and is going to unite, maybe, you know, make peace with Russia and make peace with China and blah, blah, blah.
Okay, well, funnily enough, I only started reading Revelation today.
I got that far, finally.
And it doesn't disappoint.
You're straight in there with some pretty woe stuff, and visions, and angels with swords coming out of their mouths, and golden girdles, and all sorts of stuff, and it's great.
But up until that point, New Testament talks about antichrists.
And there's lots of them.
And I don't know where the idea of a single Antichrist, as we've been expecting via Omen and Damien and all that sort of stuff, where that idea comes from.
Is there going to be a singular Antichrist who arrives before Christ?
Is that the idea?
And I was under the impression, if that is the case, that he passes himself off as Christ, and that there will be that level of deception.
Well, that's what I mean, that's what I'm talking about.
We haven't got space, or indeed knowledge, to talk about, because Revelation, I've listened to one of the religious podcasts about it, and One of those guys was saying to another, don't even try to... I think the guy had written a book about Revelation, trying to interpret it, and the other guy was just like saying, well, you know, how do you cope?
Because it's all very... it's all about signs and symbols and codes and stuff, and it can be interpreted in any number of ways.
Well, do you even know who wrote it?
Because I was trying to get to the bottom of that.
It was John, wasn't it?
John the Divine.
Yeah?
So who is he?
Because some are trying to say it's John the Apostle, and others are saying it's someone called John the Elder, and it's not even clear who or which the John was.
He was John of Patmos, and he was possibly an exiled Christian, being exiled there by a Roman Emperor.
Or, there's other theories that it's part of the preaching tour to get round there.
So, it's not even clear who wrote it.
And there were those who didn't even want Revelation included in the Bible.
So, it's an odd one on that front.
It might not have even ended up in the Bible.
So, there's so many questions around it.
And this is one of the interesting things I found about reading the Bible.
Each time I read a new chapter, I want to know who wrote this, how disputed is it, when was it written, how close is their information to events as they originally unfolded?
And you get to ask questions you're not supposed to be asking.
You're meant to be accepting it all, aren't you?
So asking questions about it is almost a little bit on the naughty side of things.
You're on the same mission as me, Dick.
Exactly, it is.
That's the thing.
This is one of the reasons I'm not embarrassed to talk about this stuff, because it's really, really interesting.
You don't even have to be a Christian to be interested in this stuff.
No, this is what I keep telling people.
Even if you just want to read it as history, it's fascinating.
And even if you want to read it as a cultural reference, it's fascinating.
So, you've got something that's fascinating on every level.
Not least the language, if you're reading the King James Version, which I'm nearly finished with and I will start again on a different translation when I've read it.
But, you know, it keeps on giving.
Did you see my tweet yesterday about encountering the Portishead lyrics?
No.
I was reading Jude, the last chapter before Revelation, and I came across... I've got it up on my phone here, I can find it in a second.
So it's... well, that's where it is on my phone.
Without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots.
Raging waves of the sea, foaming out of their own shame.
Wandering stars, to whom it is reserved, the blackness of darkness forever.
I was thinking, hang on.
Wandering stars?
Wandering stars?
Exactly.
To whom?
So, her lyrics, the Fortishead lyrics are straight out of Jude, just sandwiched there, the last page before Revelation.
Endless fascination with little things like that, that just give you another little bit of clue into modern culture.
Isn't that interesting?
So, you haven't read the whole Bible?
No, no, I've nearly finished the New Testament, and in the evening, here in my little hut, I'm reading this Old Testament, so my reading is completely separated.
In the mornings, when I get to work, I get there really early, I have my breakfast, and I read another New Testament chapter.
In the evenings, I come home and do Old Testament, so I keep them completely separate in my mind, because they're very, very separate things.
Do you know, that you'll love this, who is reputed to have written Psalm 91?
There's not a King David one?
No.
No?
Who then?
Think bigger than David.
Bigger than David?
Solomon.
Bigger than Solomon.
Wow.
This is going to be massive.
Who?
Try parting the Red Sea.
Moses.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
That's a big name.
A big hitter.
It's a big hitter.
None more big.
I don't know whether it's true.
I got this from, apparently there's this, I think it was written, it was published in about 1880.
This, somebody had read everything that had been written about the Psalms and published this kind of, not a concordance, but a sort of, you can find it on the internet.
I just forget the name.
This is making me feel bad because it reminds me we haven't started my psalm series yet.
So how far are you in the Old Testament?
I'm halfway through Deuteronomy.
There's a lot of it, a lot of Old Testament.
I'm on Jeremiah at the moment.
I've heard the Prophets really deliver.
It's a bit like getting to Revelation.
The Prophets are really good.
They're really good.
Who's your favourite?
You get things like... It must have been tough being Jeremiah because Jeremiah was saying things like to the children of Israel, you've really displeased God.
Nebuchadnezzar is going to catch you and carry you off to Babylon and it's going to happen and, you know, you've had it and then a bit later on God's going to feel sorry for you and have you back but you're stuffed, mate.
And he he's saying this stuff in the in that the he's saying this to the kings of Judah and and and and Israel and they're not liking it.
It doesn't make it.
So Dan of C is all over this at the moment.
He's been quoting the very bits you're talking about on our chat group.
He particularly likes Daniel, obviously, his namesake.
I'm looking forward to getting to those bits.
Well, you sort of wonder how he stays alive, and I think the only reason that he doesn't get executed is because they recognise that on some level he probably knows what he's talking about, so they're eager to hear more even though they don't want to hear it.
And so occasionally rival prophets will say, no actually it's alright, God's changed his mind and we're not going to go to Babylon after all.
This goes down very well in the courts of Judah and Israel, but God doesn't like it and says, these are false prophets, they're just making stuff up, and I'm going to kill them.
And he does.
They die.
It's all there.
We should probably move away from things biblical in case this becomes Dick and James talk about the Bible endlessly again.
Yes, stop it Dick.
It's your fault.
I bet you brought it up.
So what else has been happening?
I was pondering today because someone on Twitter put a thread about, you know the sculptures of the, okay it's biblical again I suppose, the Veiled Virgin where she's got the She's carved in stone, but it looks like the veil is see-through.
It's such an amazing piece of carving.
And it was one of these appreciate art type tweets.
Okay.
And obviously it's breathtakingly skillful sculpture.
Giovanni Strazza, the Veiled Virgin, and he was a follow-up to Giuseppe San Martino, who was a century earlier.
So there's a whole sculptural technique of carving out of marble These amazingly beautiful and almost impossible to achieve Virgin Mary with a light veil over her face.
Yes.
To the point it makes the veil look like it's not even made of stone.
And so I commented, yeah, but could he exhibit an unmade bed covered in used condoms?
You know, just as a sort of throwaway reference, because being a Delingpole, I had to make a joke about it.
And someone came on and said, how many people will even get that joke?
It's very funny, but how many people will even get that?
And I was thinking, there's a little bit of James in that, because you and I don't care about making a joke that is guaranteed only to impress maybe 1% of our audience.
As long as we get that 1% and they find it funny, we don't care that most people miss the point and are going, what the hell is he on about?
Is there a name for that kind of humour?
I would prefer that 99% didn't get it.
This is it.
Not everyone's like that.
People will think, well, unless the majority get this, I'm not going to risk looking stupid.
But we don't care about that.
It's why I'm so horrible in my Telegram group.
I just can't take shit comments.
Just go on the Trigonometry channel.
It should make us terrible at Twitter because we're not very compassionate for people who are missing the point.
I know.
I get told I'm not very Christian and that's an instant ban.
I just kind of think...
It's for God to judge me not.
You know what?
You'll only get that from non-Christians.
I know!
Somehow the non-Christians know how Christians should behave and it's deeply infuriating.
Anyway, that was just a passing thought that I jotted down in my notebook, just in case we've run out of things to talk about, which never really happens.
But I was simultaneously trying to listen to your podcast.
I've been, yet again, playing catch-up with your podcast and others, and trying to listen to a bit of Irreverend, and trying to catch some of the other crap that I watch.
The Ukraine guy, History Legends, who is my favorite Ukraine reporter, But I was listening to the one... who's the mad Jewish girl with the illustrations?
Miriam.
Miriam.
Miriam Elia.
So I've been trying to get through that one and that is incredibly weird but very enjoyable and apparently there's stuff towards the end that Pete down at the Commandery Cafe was telling me that Mind-blowing stuff towards the end, so I'm not going to skip it, which is what I was tempted to do.
So I am trying to catch up with you and what you've been up to.
It used to be no effort at all, but now I struggle to find time to listen to podcasts.
Maybe I should be listening to them in the car, like a lot of people do.
I have been accused of being like the Ferrero Rocher ambassador.
Spoiling your audience.
I don't know what.
On DMT probably.
Such is my bounty.
People are being overwhelmed.
Do you know what I am?
I am like the cornucopia in Katniss Everdeen thingy.
What's it called?
Hunger Games.
Hunger Games, yeah.
All manner of weaponry is in my horn of plenty.
But you've just got to risk coming to get it or you may get killed.
Or do you flee into the jungle?
It's a tough decision to make.
But it's all there for the taking.
I had something interesting to tell you.
Oh yes, I wanted to tell you something that made me happy.
So one of the things that makes me happy in this world is the swallows, the family of swallows that nest in the... there's a sort of hut thing outside through the window out of the bathroom and every year This family of swallows comes back.
Presumably they're the offspring of the previous year's swallow.
I don't know how long the swallows live for.
But they come and nest there every year.
And swallows, I think, they come back to the same place.
Every year, they breed about three hatches worth of swallowlets, or whatever they're called.
Swallowlets, that's the word.
There's a sort of anti-cat palisade we've erected.
I can't think why.
The anti-cat palisade.
I was looking to...
Sometimes the swallows come out.
They're really busy.
They're really, really busy.
In nesting season and in hatchling season, they just back and forth, back and forth, mum and dad, mum and dad, back and forth.
It's great watching the precision with which they negotiate the turns and get it exactly right.
And there's a pigeon.
There's a wood pigeon that nests in the same place and so you sort of have the wood pigeon and the swallows.
They obviously don't like each other particularly but they've found an accommodation.
Anyway, I was looking out there the other day and I saw this swallow on the anti-cat palisade and it was going like this.
And I thought, oh, what's going on here?
And then I realised that it was a swallow, a baby swallow, about to make its first flight.
And I thought, oh, it's that time of year when they make their first flight.
And it's really, really nerve-wracking.
And they're sitting there, or standing there, trying to pluck up their confidence to be able to make the first big flight, knowing that if they don't get it, It could be their last chance.
Yeah, if you hit the ground there's no taking off from the ground really, is there?
And I see this process being played out every year and it just fills me with such joy when I see them making their first flight.
Sometimes you do, if you wait long enough you see them make their first ever flight and sometimes they come unstuck and you feel a bit worried about them.
But anyway, that's the thing that makes me really happy, seeing that.
Because after all, This is another conversation I had at Abigail's party.
Consider the lilies.
I knew we'd get on to considering the lilies.
Well, consider the lilies.
They turn, not neither do they spin.
And yet even Solomon...
He had not.
Solomon, in all his glory, was arrayed like one of these.
And it seems to me that he came up with some really good one-liners, Jesus, as you would being the son of God.
But it seems to me that encapsulated in that sentence, that verse is the best argument for creation there is.
You only have to look at, I mean, I would actually have used irises, but maybe irises weren't so common in, you know. - Or it could even have been a mistranslation, who knows? - It could have been.
Lin is obviously really impressive.
But irises, I think, you look at an iris and you go, nothing that man has ever designed or is capable of designing matches the glory of that thing.
Nothing that Solomon ever wore looks as wonderful as an iris.
Or indeed, actually, you think about the eye.
I use the eye and butterflies.
As two examples and, you know, sort of anti-evolution arguments.
But then if you want to go even further than that, you can say, well, how about love and the appreciation of art?
I mean, how can you account for those in terms purely of evolution without the intervention of a higher being?
I agree.
It's the truth-beauty test.
How would we know that truth and beauty are desirable things if it weren't for God?
Yeah.
It would have once been a hard sell for me, that one, which just goes to show the extent of our brainwashing and why they take our kids away from us at a very early age, to make sure we don't get any of these silly ideas in our heads.
Were you there for the cruel bit in our conversations at Abigail's where the mother and daughter from South Africa, Ruth and Sarah... Yes, they were lovely.
You met them, yeah.
And Ruth, they were completely, well I say completely red-pilled, they weren't completely red-pilled because there were certain issues on which, for example, Ruth was still kind of had a foot in Normie camp.
She was purple-pilled.
And she said, space, space is my favourite thing, don't tell me that space isn't real.
And I said, well, And dinosaurs, she wanted to believe that dinosaurs were real as well.
And I said, well, the thing is, the thing is, the moon landings, where are you, do you think they went to?
I think, I think we may have, we may have pulled around in the end.
They were also, they were not, they were not Christians or not yet Christians, and they were frightened that I might be like, Difficult with them or something or I would but I would like them less And I was I was thinking no not at all.
I mean, I mean, I don't judge people whether they're Christian or not I love my Non-christian friends.
I just think they're non-christian.
I see them as a work in progress.
Yeah, I mean, so many of them, especially do turn up to Third Wednesday, are self-described as spiritual.
And I think if you're spiritual, you're probably talking about the same thing, but you haven't given it the same name that I have at this point.
So, the line I take is, as long as you accept the stuff Beyond your comprehension, you know, we're at least in the same book, if not on the same page.
But on the whole, sort of, being able to talk to people openly about any subject and knowing they're pretty much going to be with you.
We had a new arrival at our, not our third Wednesday drinks, but just last, this Wednesday just gone.
A Twitter follower, I'm sure he won't mind me using his Twitter name, Sandy Beach, He's on his way in a camper van to his holidays.
He's gone from the north down to Cornwall.
And he wanted to see if any of us were out drinking that night.
Dick, that's not his real name.
Sandy Beach.
No, it's not his real name.
That's why I can use it happily.
That's the name he's chosen to go by.
And that means he's safe.
It sticks in your mind though, doesn't it?
Sandy Beach did not kill himself.
They call him that because he spends so much time on beaches.
So he turned up at the pub we were at on Wednesday.
There were only about six of us drinking, including Par and a few other stalwarts.
Sir Dan of Sea was there.
And he had a beaming smile on his face when he walked across the pub lawn and saw us there.
Telling us how refreshing and such a relief it is to turn up to a bunch of people, all of whom are on the same page on things like moon landings and dinosaurs and...
The climate change, COVID, the jab, and you can get straight into the meat of the conversation.
But it was, you forget that people don't all get that, that most of the time people are spent guarding their opinions and being very careful who they say what to.
So you can't underestimate the importance of actual physical gatherings.
So this is just a hi to Sandy who will no doubt be listening to this and just tell him how glad I was that he turned up because, you know, it's quite a brave thing to do to rock up in another group of people just unannounced.
He told us he was coming.
But yeah, we are quite friendly, we don't bite.
Not in the flesh!
We've got lurches for that.
There is an impression that you might get that we would be a little bit evangelical and trying to convert and foisting our opinions on others, but it really isn't like that.
Well, it depends on what evangelical, but I don't do the... I wouldn't try and evangelise... Well, I would, but not in a way that would frighten the horses.
That's my mission, not to frighten the horses.
Sorry, I've made you silent now.
No, you've made me silent and that never happens, but especially after I've had so many coffees this afternoon, maybe I'm finally hitting the crash point.
No, I'm thinking, I'm thinking I need, it's very hot and humid, I'm thinking I need a cup of tea.
I'm roasting in here.
And I am going to go and meet my wife after work and go to my favourite evening drink point, which is completely alien to you because you don't go off and do pubs on a sunny afternoon, do you?
No, I don't.
I don't.
Well, I think we haven't said some boring things.
I think we've passed the time nicely again.
Never.
That's not us.
That's not what we do.
Yeah.
Never knowingly under-interesting.
Good.
Well, don't forget everyone, if you want to support me, and you kind of should, and I love it when you do, I think Locals is the best place.
Locals, definitely, we find getting your advance videos up easier than we do on Subscribestar, which seems to make it complicated, and I think Patreon, you only get audio, so that's worth bearing with.
Locals is good.
Subscribestar, I'm thinking of doing something with Subscribestar.
I think my God book, I may serially publish it to subscribers at some stage.
Buy me a coffee, that's always good.
Do we still do special friend badges, Dick?
Have we got any left?
Yes, we still do.
I mean, and they are limited edition.
I think we're in something like the 800.
So they will run out at a certain point, and that will be it.
There will be no more special friend badges.
But they are... What are we going to do after that?
I'll make up a new badge.
I'll design a new badge and we'll do something new and different.
Also, I've got my commercial website up and running now, which is delingpolestudio.com, and that is where I'm going to be not just selling my prints and cigarette cards and what have you, but I'm doing my resist t-shirts, And I will be doing the Sam Delingpod t-shirts that we've launched at your events.
I haven't really been pushing them at all, but I wanted to get the website up and running, but this will be a portal for Delingpod merch as well.
Isn't it lucky, Dick, that you don't work in marketing?
Otherwise...
Otherwise you're afraid it should be... I should be so much better at it, but I spend my days doing the paid work.
I had a call coming in.
I will call that back in a minute, but we can do all these things shortly.
But anyway, yeah.
Dellingpolestudio.com is where you want to go for that sort of thing.
So buy my stuff, and that supports me.
It was good.
We liked it.
OK, I'm going to have a really nice cup of tea now.
And I'm going to have a cold pint of IPA, I should imagine.
What?
At four o'clock?
It'll be five o'clock by the time I get up there.
But it's a Friday, so that's legit.
I'm all manly.
I completely forgot.
Fair enough.
OK, right.
Well, bye everyone.
Let's hope it recorded, eh?
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