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Jan. 27, 2023 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Laura Perrins
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Wow.
Laura Perrins.
I have to say, Laura, one of the many things I love about you.
is that you make me look like the king of IT, because your grasp of technology is so piss poor, frankly.
I'm sorry to say this.
Sorry to swear, which you're a nice Catholic girl, but it is absolutely horrendous.
You're doing it on your phone, even though I didn't tell you to do it on your phone, because I sent you the code by WhatsApp.
Why would you think I'd have WhatsApp on my laptop?
Because normal people... No one does that.
Also install WhatsApp onto their laptops so that they can... Because otherwise you're having to, you're having to, like, um, evil Apple, what's his name, whoever's in charge.
Who's in charge of Apple now?
Whoever, he's evil and, and he will spy on you.
Yeah, but he must be spying on you via your laptop, James.
You know, I mean, there's no getting out of it.
No, I'm currently balancing.
I was moving around a bit there earlier while you were reading out your sponsor.
I just want to apologise to the viewers because I'm balancing my phone on a Batman toy.
You know, people are going to... Actually, they can't because your pitch is so crap.
Is it really crap?
No, it's not.
It's not like high res.
Oh, sorry.
But people would be looking at your book.
You know what people do?
They look at book collections.
They're going to be looking at you.
We all know that's my new wallpaper.
Yeah, since I last saw you.
Oh, it's wallpaper, it's not real books.
No, no, no, they are.
When the viewer stares at it for 10 minutes, they realise that the pattern repeats itself and I'm not that OCD.
My books, my real books are inside in my other reading room.
Laura, we need kind of a catch up.
I mean, occasionally I do podcasts with Dick and we catch up with all the sort of brother news.
But, like, you and me, we haven't spoken for so long.
It's been a while.
Yeah, I can't.
Yes.
And the number of people who've emailed me saying, when are you going to get Laura back on?
She was a lifeline in my time of crazy, you know, when we were locked down.
We still, I still, I still see those things on Twitter, which is, which is part of the reason why I texted you yesterday and said, you know, we have to, let's do this.
So, um, uh, that, and I also did listen to one of your London calling podcasts with, with Toby Young.
And I just thought, These people, they don't understand anything.
So I need to go back on there and tell James why he's wrong about various things.
Oh, how rude!
Hang on, hang on.
How rude!
I hate people ringing on my sodding mobile phone.
They just imagine that... By the way, can I point out to Conspiracy... I'm recording a podcast, Jim.
I can't talk now.
Okay, bye.
Oh, oh, no!
Oh!
What, has he gotten really cross?
Oh, this is, this is extra.
Sorry, sorry, really sorry.
I didn't realise it was my darling granddaughter.
Hello, my special granddaughter.
Hello.
I love you very, very much.
You're the best granddaughter in the world.
But I'm, but Grandpa is recording a podcast.
And so he'll have to... Are you going to bed?
No.
I think you should.
See you later, Grandpa.
I love you very much.
I'm a bit shy.
Oh, don't be shy.
You're a good girl.
You're a good girl.
Bye-bye.
Oh, now you're just... Now you're just... I know.
You know what the thing is... Since when did you have a grandchild?
Well, I mean, listen, you've been having children since I last saw you, so why shouldn't I have a granddaughter?
Yeah, that's just amazing.
How many months is she?
She's old.
She's like three and a half.
You just snuck that in.
I didn't think you were old enough to be a grandfather.
I know, I know.
I'm so young and handsome.
People complain about interrupting calls, but when your granddaughter calls and you can't go, oh, I'm on a podcast.
I felt so bad.
In fact, you should have just ended my call and just spoken to her.
No, no, no, no, no, because we've got limited time.
Anyway, before we go on, can I point out that the mirror or thing in the background is not some kind of sign that I'm actually a 33rd level Illuminati or whatever.
It's not meant to be... There's nothing demonic in it.
There's not, you know, and look, it's not inside a triangle or a pyramid or anything like that.
It does look quite faded again, probably because of our very high tech here.
But Laura, can I just say, I love the idea that you were so incensed by Toast's normidom that you felt compelled to come out of retirement like Cincinnati.
It wasn't just him!
What do you mean?
I think I said in the text, and for anybody who hasn't listened to it, And this is the reason you should because the best bit is towards the end when you and Toby discuss how irresistible you are to the ladies because obviously you're married and unavailable.
You anyway of the opinion was that this made you irresistible.
Toby, in fairness to him, wasn't convinced.
Well, in my defence, I would say, actually, it's modesty.
I mean, I could have said, yeah, I'm so incredibly good looking and bright and eligible that any chick would go for me.
When, in fact, I was saying the only reason anyone would want to go, any woman would feel like going for me, is because I'm unavailable.
Don't remember the only.
Don't remember the only.
But, you know, anyway, that part was definitely, that was definitely funny.
Um, so, but yeah, no, there are a few other things, but before, I genuinely didn't think that you were old enough to be a grandchild, uh, grandfather, but it's really good news because, you know, so many, so few people now do the family route, you know, you've obviously done your job well, one of your kids got married and had a, had a little girl, so this is, this should not be taken for granted, James.
I know you know that, but you know... Oh, look, look, Laura, I think you and I, you and I are on the same page here.
The only things that matter are... Yes.
Stuff like God, the family, all the eternal things that they are trying to corrupt and take away from us.
I've just been writing a chapter of my book on this, about how the war on Christianity, which I'm sure you'll agree with me, which has been going on for decades, well centuries actually, And one of the things I was pointing out is that the way they've tried to persuade us that the devil does not exist.
In other words, they want to remove all the spiritual elements of Christianity, which is, after all, The main thing.
It's like, duh.
It's not a kind of social workers' religion about championing LBGT plus transgender rights.
It's not about supporting Ukraine.
Actually, if you go to the Bible, there was no reference whatsoever to the importance of... Sorry, Julia Roberts.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I saw that.
There are no passages in the Bible that say, thou shalt support the Zelensky-Biden money laundering operation, child trafficking operation in Ukraine.
Actually, God enjoins against this kind of thing, actually.
Yeah, no, I think, again, for the benefit of the viewer, I saw that tweet.
A very rare... I mean, I don't really wear...
I think it was Julia was saying, you know, for those who are objecting to the sending of tanks to the Ukraine, please tell me which part of Britain you'd be happy to give away should it be invaded.
And I just thought, I just thought, wow.
I mean, you guys, sorry to put my Irish hat on, you guys have been rolling in to other people's countries, you know, for like hundreds of years and never thought to give any of it back.
So, well, you certainly, you know, you still have a big chunk of Ireland and I would like that back.
And to answer her actual question in terms of, you know, what part of the UK would you be willing to give away?
Scotland.
I mean, I'd happily give Scotland away, but you might really like Scotland.
No, well, the Republic of Winfarmia.
I don't know.
I mean, are we really mourning the loss of the surgeon?
I mean, yeah, why?
But obviously, I'm not British, so the question is not at me.
But I was going to tweet a reply like that, said no, you know, yeah, It was snappy, but I didn't do it.
It was like, yes, it's not like you guys haven't been rolling into other people's countries, you know, for centuries.
Said no British colonialist ever.
But I said, why bother?
I'm with you all the way.
There's no point.
One of the things that's happened since we last spoke, which shows how long it is, is that I have gone so far down the history rabbit hole.
That I've come to loathe the British Empire.
I've recognised that these are not my people who've done this stuff.
I can take no pride or pleasure in it.
I take no pride, or rather I do now take responsibility for the potato famine.
I recognise, and the Bengal famine, I recognise that the people who've been in charge of our country, for generations, do not represent me.
They represent their own interests.
They're basically satanic scumbags.
Okay, well, you're definitely, as usual, further down there than others.
But I mean, yeah, there's obviously a nuance, a nuance to some of this.
Really, there isn't.
Okay, yeah.
No.
Yeah.
There really isn't, actually.
This brings me nicely onto maybe a more modern subject in that it comes up to, and this happens a lot now and it probably happens a lot with you as well, you know something comes up, a big fight comes up and supposedly one of our guys is being attacked for some one reason or another, someone's taking a statue down or Whatever it might be.
And the question always is, you know, should you, are you going to tweet in their defense?
Do we care?
You know, should you take a stand on this issue?
Obviously, there's a limited amount of time and energy, you know, you have.
But, and that's why, that's why I think about this Jeremy Clarkson thing that you and Toby were talking about and how, for instance, he, again, that whole, I mean, I, I know in your podcast, you were basically saying it's not important, it's not relevant.
But, you know, He's an example for me where I'm not really that interested in defending what he has to say, which can annoy conservatives.
But I always do a sort of test in terms of, well, would he ever come to your defence?
And I would have thought the answer to that is no.
Is what he's saying worth defending?
And then what they always do is they always roll over, don't they?
Which shows exactly why he wasn't worth defending.
Then he comes out with this absolute, abject, pathetic, grovelling apology to the mob, which only sort of wets their appetite and puts further blood in the water.
And you're like, can you imagine if you'd actually sort of gone to the wire for this guy and said, I'm going to really defend Jeremy Clarkson.
And then a couple of days later, he's like, I'm so, so sorry from the balls of my feet to the follicles on my hair, but you are so pathetic.
Why would you do that?
You know, it really, that whole episode really annoyed me for like loads of different reasons.
But yeah, I guess it's... No, I agree.
And also, what was he talking about?
He was talking about something that doesn't matter anyway.
That's critical.
It does not matter a toss whether or not you think that this woman, Megan, is a saint or whether you think she's one of Satan's little helpers.
It doesn't matter.
She's just a nobody.
Why are we even talking about the Royal Family?
This doesn't matter.
There's so much more important stuff going on in the world.
Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with that.
I mean, I think I've done about two blogs on Meghan, which overall is not bad considering, you know, some people... Sometimes it does get so hot that you can't ignore it, right?
You have to say something because your readers or whatever are like, OK, I need to hear you say something on this.
But yeah, I mean, you look back at Jeremy Corbyn and it's like, I don't ever remember him speaking out about the lockdown.
Don't ever remember him taking position on vaccines.
Don't ever remember him taking any sort of mildly socially conservative positions.
Who is this person?
You know, and then he goes on and then...
It's really, at most, a ridiculous column.
Again, about someone who isn't important.
And you're also, because he's on the right, you're all supposed to, like, jump to his defence.
And you're like, no, I'm not really going to do that, actually.
I think I'll hoover my kitchen or literally do anything else other than defend him.
But, you know, others will say, no, you should always, you should always, you know, otherwise they'll come for you.
I'm like, well, they can come for me if they want.
I won't be issuing any grovelling apologies anytime soon anyway.
There's a reason why these people are paid so much and it's not because they're actually worth the money.
I mean I'm not saying that he doesn't turn a good phrase and he's not a sort of jaunty character and I loved his farming programme.
But ultimately, all these people who rise to positions of prominence, they're just bread and circuses.
They are part of the deception operation.
They're designed to, look, here is a right-wing person with right-wing views and all.
Here is Owen Jones, and he's a left-wing person, and oh, and there's Polly Toynbee, and you can get angry about her, and there's Yasmine Alibi Brown.
And when I was part of this game, I used to think that, well, I mean, everything I said was sincere.
It wasn't like I was, I woke up in the morning and thought to myself, what What right wing things can I say today to get myself in the newspapers?
I mean, I believe this stuff, but once you understand how the media works, the media is a lie machine.
It is part of the satanic deception.
The people who own the media are evil and they are trying to Eurus, trying to corral us into these argumentative groups.
So I'm a Brexit person and I'm really angry about sovereignty, which has been taken away from us.
Oh, and I'm a Remainer.
And I believe in Europe and I want us to be able to... I believe in frictionless borders.
It's all complete bollocks.
The only purpose of this stuff is to divide us and make us angry.
But aren't you sounding a little John Lennon-like?
Are you going to get your guitar out and start singing Imagine?
Imagine there's no Brexit.
You should really spend some time investigating the story of who it was that really killed John Lennon.
It's really interesting.
Really interesting.
It was basically the Doorman.
Okay.
It wasn't Mark Chapman who was just a kind of brainwashed MK Ultra.
You know, his handlers would have been all about him, giving him the trigger words, and he'd have been standing there with his gun.
Yeah, I shot John Lennon because he was programmed to do it.
The guy who really shot John Lennon was the Doorman, who was a CIA hitman.
Okay.
Anyway, so there you are.
So why would they kill John Lennon?
Well, if Presuming that too wasn't fake.
They probably killed him because he was saying the kind of unhelpful things that I'm saying now.
No, right, OK.
I didn't know you're, OK, a big fan.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I get the media circus bit, all right.
I mean, I still think there's some, you know, issues worth, obviously, taking a stand over.
But now, the amount of people who I would run to defend are pretty... It's pretty thin on the ground.
And as I said, usually, nine times out of ten, then they always roll over.
And it just makes the situation 10 times worse.
And I just think, again, as a man, you're so, so weak.
And this is the thing, it's really exposed Jeremy Clarkson, I think, for, well, what he is.
Because you would know more about it, because I don't read him and I don't watch him, but I understand he's sort of a manly man, the bloke's bloke, you know, down the pub and he'll say what he's thinking.
And all that kind of stuff.
And you're like, yeah, but he was so weak in the end, right?
The minute push came to shove, he just folded like a deck of cards.
So he's not really a manly man at all, is he?
And for me, as a woman, it's very unattractive when they just roll up the white flag.
That's the other reason, of course, that these people get paid so much, because it puts them in a position where they simply cannot turn down money.
So they have to cave, if that is required of them.
That's why you need to be in a position Which is pretty much the one I've managed to get in, in the last two or three years, where you're not dependent on the man.
Yeah.
Because if the man controls you, then you can't speak to the money.
Yeah, of course, of course, there is that element.
And I guess, well, you don't have a price, but everybody does have a price.
And if he's lucky, you know, but that's the other thing.
It's quite obvious that he's afraid of losing his contracts, whatever, which it looks like he's going to lose anyway.
So he's not only lost his contracts, he's also lost his dignity.
You know, so just why, why, why bother?
And all of you say over this absolutely nothing issue, all over, it's not even over an issue that even matters, right?
All over Megan, who has the believable talent of taking people down.
It's incredible.
I think, you know, she took down Piers Morgan.
She took down the, I think, the head of Did she though?
Well, I think it was it was underneath.
He's still with us.
Well, I don't like him either.
But yeah, she does seem to be this kind of rock where men of a certain age in the media managed to crash and burn.
And again, she's totally not worth it.
Just why?
No, Laura, you're suddenly presenting a really persuasive case for me to love Regan.
If I were to agree that she really had destroyed Piers Morgan, I'd be thinking... Yeah, no, I mean, I wasn't sad when he went either.
We did that at the time.
We were both very pleased that he was... It happened to be her that took him down, but fine.
Hey, he's one of your lot.
My lot?
He's a bug-trotter, isn't he?
Oh, Morgan, maybe back in the day.
I think he's a baptized Catholic, but he's... He's one of yours.
He's one of mine.
Yeah, yeah.
But again, she does seem to take down quite a few, and you're like, she's so not worth it.
Why are you doing this to yourself?
You're just falling into her trap completely.
It's actually amazing to watch.
Amazing to watch.
It's so good to have you back, Laura.
I'm glad you said that.
Just standing off, you know, like in your... It's all there.
Yeah, it is.
The thing is, if you take a step back, you do get to watch it a bit more.
You know, you get to, you do get to... I do think it's sometimes, you know, if you're in this game, times of reflection are important.
And so many people are just, oh, I have to instantly tweet my response.
And you're like, maybe you should just think about it.
Maybe you should just, maybe even research this issue a little bit.
Or maybe not have a position.
I mean, there are a few things that I think I'm going to sit this one out.
But you know, so much of it is like, I have to instantly, instantly tweet my position.
And you're like, no, you don't.
You really don't.
Do you know what this stuff is really all about?
All these kind of got to have instant reactions.
It's about number one, it's about dopamine hits, which is why people are addicted to social media.
And two, and this is the more esoteric stuff, it's about feeding demons.
There are these, apparently there was demons called Lush.
We shouldn't say their names out loud.
They harvest your energy.
But anyway.
They harvest your emotional energy.
So every time you turn on your Twitter and you get pissed off by some annoying person who says something annoying about some annoying subject, in they go.
Yeah.
And actually it's funny you say that because I have over the years of doing this, but it's hard, you know, obviously if you're in the media you kind of have to keep an eye on things, but definitely I would notice the Twitter thing having an effect on my mood.
And then if I did it around children...
Then I could be in a bad mood with the kids and I thought, this is bad.
You can't let this interfere with how you are going to interact with your children.
I try to be quite brutal with the social media and the media as a whole.
Anyway, I won't get involved.
I turn phones off very early, lock myself out of Twitter, lock myself out of desktops and stuff.
And they do say that if you're going to do it, if you're going to expose yourself, then just set your half an hour aside.
You know, indulge, if you want to, and then cut it off.
So maybe if you've got a meeting and you know you have to be at the meeting, because of course, every time you open a social media app, you think you're only going to stay on it for 15 minutes.
45 minutes later, you're still there.
Maybe not you, but most... No, me!
No, me!
Me!
Exactly.
I mean, it's actually a worse habit than wanking.
It's just a bit of porn.
Sorry.
You shouldn't have them on your phone.
That's it.
I've actually read two really good books on it.
There's people out there who do want to cut down their social media and things.
Obviously not watching James' blogs.
You need to watch more of those.
But all of these apps and notifications, they shouldn't be on your phone.
If you at least have them on your desktop and you're sitting, say, in a slightly uncomfortable position, right, like on a bench or a spike, say, You're telling your brain that you are kind of doing this.
But if you're on your phone, say, on the couch, you kind of don't really notice the time going.
So you have to really compartmentalize it, basically like it's work.
It's a meeting.
I'm going to have a meeting with Twitter or Facebook, whatever it is.
You give yourself a half an hour, maybe do it before you have an actual meeting where you know you absolutely have to shut down.
You go in there, you indulge yourself for your 30 minutes if you want to, and then you cut it off and you're gone.
I haven't had Twitter on my phone for a long, long, long time.
I also have certain blocks and stuff, yeah.
So I try and limit it a lot.
But they're all evil.
In fact, I have a loathing for mobile phones as a whole, but that's a different story.
Again, as Jeremy Clarkson might say, I hate them on a cellular level.
But obviously we try and have loads, billions of rules in the house about not having it here and not having it there.
You've got... Yeah, that's because my battery's low.
I've just realised that my battery is low.
I might just turn down the... I'm going to turn down the light.
Can you see me?
No, it's just black.
You've gone to hell.
Yeah, can I turn down my brightness?
Because my earphones are in the place where you need the charger.
Anyway, oh, I'm such a good tech person.
No, you are, you are, but I think people will consider that past the charm.
By the way, a moment ago, when I was doing this, it was purely in order to correct my postural problems, you know, and get my, um, those shoulder blades back and down.
It wasn't because I was trying to frame the eye with a pyramid shape.
You're really into this, Simon.
Do you say your prayers?
St.
Michael the Archangel, protect us in battle.
Thank to Michael Archangel in defending us in Prolio contra necritiam et incidias diabili est presidium.
Actually there was an obituary recently about I think the main exorcist in England who died recently but I might send you that.
Yeah, no, it's all real.
It's all real.
The media circus goes on, as you say.
That was my opinion on Clarkson.
Namely, I don't have one.
A similar thing is the whole royal family thing.
You know, are you pro Susan Hussie?
Are you pro royal family?
And you're like, what are you talking about?
Why are you talking?
I'm very plague on their houses.
You know, I'm like, no, no, no, no, don't, don't be getting, again, the right wing people are getting worked up against, against the, you know, the lady, the lady that they invited.
Oh, how dare she?
And oh, she's really, she's really, she's really been so mean to Susan Murphy.
You know, no, no, her godchild, William, he's the one you need to be angry with.
He's the one who, the minute again, he gets a little bit of heat.
He's cut her out of the picture.
They've done the grovelling apology.
You know what I mean?
And this is all on ours.
We've no business defending the Royal Family.
And as you say, again, you and Toby touched on it, which is going to be the wokest coronation ever.
I need to get on a plane.
I need to go back to Ireland for that.
But the prices will probably be huge.
But you know what, Laura?
A bit like naming demons.
We are empowering them by talking about them.
You've just got to not think about them.
One thing I will say, because it does annoy you, they're going to have their LGBT choir and the People Who Can't Sing choir and the whatever choir.
And you're like, what about the Taxpayers' Choir?
What about all the taxpayers that are paying to fund your lifestyle and this jamboree all weekend?
How about them?
Do they get a little seat over there in the corner with all your nurses and the rest of it?
Unbelievable.
I was thinking about this the other day.
I was thinking about the lies that they tell us in order to justify why these parasites actually are good value for money.
It's all nuts.
And there's the one about, oh, they do wonders for the tourist industry.
Hang on a second.
Hang on a second.
Which tourist, you know, I wonder where I'm going to visit in the world today.
Where should I take my summer holidays?
Ooh, will it be the land of the fjords?
Or will it be the land of, oh, I don't know, Thai green chicken curry?
Or will it be the land of kangaroos?
No!
It's got to be the land of royalty.
Well, hang on a second.
Well, I'm thinking of all the lists of things why you might want to visit Britain.
I mean, the rules aren't even in the game.
It's like, we've got the best countryside in the world.
We've got fox hunting.
I know you've got it too in your native country.
But, you know, we've got loads and loads of good shit that we can survive without the presence or otherwise of the law.
It's like, OK, I get that some people might want to see Buckingham Palace and all that stuff.
It's like, yeah, but even... No, it's horrible!
It's horrible!
Even if you turned into a republic, you would still keep the buildings, I assume.
You know, it's like the tourists can still come and see the buildings.
You're not going to sell it off.
I mean, maybe you will to the Chinese because we don't have any money anymore.
They don't personally get to meet, you know, King Charles or Catherine or whatever it might be.
I mean, it's the whole thing is just it's just it's ludicrous.
It's so ludicrous.
But as you say, we're feeding the beast.
So you can choose the next subject.
So, yeah, get on a plane for that weekend unless they're going to have the taxpayers choir, which I want.
I'll tell you what's annoying me, Laura, and I'm sure it's annoying you, is the way that we've got people now, all our predictions, not that we're refactoring Nostradamus here, all our predictions about the dangers of the vaccines are coming true.
People are, I mean, it's awful.
It is awful.
So little pleasure in this.
Because we've all got friends and family who've taken this unnecessary medical procedure and have been poisoned by it.
And we're all worried sick about it.
I mean, almost more worried for... I mean...
Ultimately, I've made my peace with God.
I'm okay about death, but I do very much care about friends and loved ones who've taken the vaccine.
That's different.
Everything we predicted is starting to come true.
The excess deaths are through the roof.
And remarkably, the media across the board is still pushing this line, this completely mendacious line that, oh, it's the lockdown.
Yes.
They don't even say it's the lockdown.
They say things like, they say it's the pandemic.
Right?
It's the pandemic that stopped everybody getting their staffing, which is another issue.
And you're like, no, no, no, it was your reaction to the pandemic.
It's that you specifically blocked people from coming into hospital.
Not, you know, even on your, yeah, I know, it's just shifting all the time.
But also, it also promotes another lie, that our medical services are so fantastic, that if only people had access to them, they wouldn't be dying like this.
That our cancer treatments are so first rate, that if only... So you've got people like Carol Sikora, who I'm guessing is probably sincere, but his line is, you know, it's because people were denied access to cancer treatment.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that for a second.
I do believe that the vaccines have accelerated people's cancer.
So that's a different issue.
But it's not people who've been denied treatment that's killing them.
It's not lockdown that treats them.
There still wasn't lockdown that's causing them to die.
And yet you read the paper, so you read, you know, a Dan Hallam column, and he'll be saying, well, of course, as one of the people who always thought that the lockdown was a very, very bad idea, I was probably the only columnist to say this, and you're thinking, You are part of the deception.
You are distracting people from the only thing that matters, which is on this score, which is vaccine injury.
You are covering up.
And it's the same with with Alison Pearson.
You know, I think she's a really good writer, but she too, whether because her Contract obliges her to push a particular narrative because her employers demand it.
I don't know.
But she too is saying, oh, it's the lockdown.
Oh, it's this and that.
Not mentioning vaccine injuries, but barely.
Saying they might be a factor, but that's about it.
No, they are the main thing.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I mean, I did notice after that poor, you know, that American footballer, I forget his name, he played for the Patriots, right?
You must have seen this story.
He collapsed in the middle of the field.
You saw that, right?
Huge!
On Monday Night Football, which is the absolute marquee thing, okay, this young chap in his 20s, I forget his name, I'm sorry, no, he's still with us, but I forget his name, playing for the Patriots.
Out, out.
He gets a hit and then he falls.
And they work on him for like 20 minutes on the pitch, right?
They could have taken him off dead off the pitch.
They work on him, they get his heart back, basically leaving it.
All his team are in a circle on their knees praying, okay?
And what I noticed was how quick, because I searched it on both online and on YouTube, how quickly There were so many links and pieces saying, it absolutely isn't a vaccine.
And I'm thinking, how can you turn that piece around?
Like you've turned that around in 30 seconds and every single one was the same.
Like it was, you know, nearly coordinated.
Oh, it definitely, and I'm an MD from blah, blah, blah.
And this is, this is actually a lot more frequent in sports, in sports injuries than you would know.
And I'm like, well, Well, you know, I don't watch much American football, but I think I would have noticed if they were all dropping up until now, you know, you're just like, seriously.
And I know that you and Toby were talking about the litigation previous on that podcast, but over there, pretty much all the employers mandated.
You know, either nurses or sports people or whatever to get this job.
And they must be feeling very nervous right now.
Because although you can't sue the vaccine manufacturers, you can certainly sue your employer.
You know, you can sue Patriots, you know, Inc.
or whatever.
So that will be in, and if it's going to happen, if you're going to have mass lawsuits anywhere, it's going to be in America, right?
It's going to be a class action on that bad boy.
Because this guy, thank God he's come around and he's still with us, as I said.
I haven't updated myself on him for a few weeks, but he'll never play again.
I doubt he could throw a ball to his kid if he has a kid in the garden.
That's how changed his life will be.
Because he had a massive heart attack or heart failure in the middle of the field.
So he's never playing football again.
He can't get insured.
He probably couldn't even get insured to drive a car, I would imagine.
So this is going to be big.
Well, one hopes so.
We all hope there's going to be some kind of payback for all this.
Have you listened to the Ed Dowd podcast?
Oh, without someone I know.
On yours?
It's well worth watching because he just gives this monologue at the beginning.
The first part of the podcast is a sort of half-hour monologue on Ed summarising the state of affairs so far.
And he's looked into things like Mortality and injury among footballers, which is just off the scale.
And the reason that footballers are particularly affected is because they run the most.
But yeah, I hope there are going to be lawsuits against these employers.
One of the points he makes is that the safest category to be in, in terms of excess deaths at the moment, the category in which there has been no increase in excess deaths, is the unemployed.
And the point about this, he makes, is that a lot of these people waiting, that particular group, will be people who were employed And refused to take the mandated wax.
Yes, that would make sense.
Or either just weren't employed before that right, so they didn't have a reason to, again, they weren't forced to take it.
Or they didn't go for their free donut bribe, which you'd thought was aimed specifically at that particular group, and they just didn't.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, probably because they're not exposed to the media, right?
I mean, well, yeah, who knows?
But oops.
Yeah, so this is, I just, I thought that was notable, you know, in terms of how quickly the counter was to when that poor guy went down.
And I love, they always take the tone on Twitter, you know, they always take the moral high ground like, How you people exploiting this poor am I, how dare you?
You know when they bring out the how dare you's, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Too early to say let's wait for the inquest they say and then of course the inquest gets buried.
You're like no you don't you don't get to how dare me.
You're not in charge of this debate.
But yeah, no, I mean, the excess deaths are crazy.
I mean, the numbers, whatever way you look at it.
And also, will they get their own wall?
Do they get the people who are, even again on the mainstream media narrative, the people who are denied their cancer treatment and their statins?
They're 12 hour wait at A&E because some doctors had it at 500 people a week were dying because the ambulances weren't getting in, which I have my doubts about.
You know, are they getting their wall?
Because, you know, there's the COVID memorial wall.
They'll probably put them on the COVID injuries wall because they'll say that they died of long COVID.
That'll be it.
That's how it'll work, they'll bury them that way.
Yeah, well there definitely should be a minute's silence for them at the coronation when, again, unfortunately the Royal Family pushed that vaccine as well.
So they should all have, there should be a choir for the bereaved families of people who were made to take the vaccine because the Queen in particular changed them into doing so.
Beside my tax payers choir.
Yes, the Queen did do that.
If I organised the coronation, it would be a lot different to how they're going to organise it, I can tell you.
Oh, I'd... Yes.
Laura, now we're talking.
If you were in... All the ex-colonies.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
We could have a, it would be a war for shame, wouldn't it?
They'd just be, they'd just be pelted.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, they can have their LGBT choir, but they can also have, you know, I mean, also, isn't homosexuality illegal still in loads of Commonwealth countries?
How are you going to square that?
How do you square that?
Right, so how did we get to this?
Well, because they're having their LGBT choir, OK, of course, for the King, who is still head of the Commonwealth, where certain acts face criminal sanction.
Are they going to fly those people in, maybe from wherever, you know, are they going to get them out of prison?
I mean, this is the thing.
It is what they call it woke washing, aren't they?
Just please don't come for me.
I've got my Black Lives Matter and I've got my rainbow.
Please.
I'm HSBC or whatever.
I'm Nike.
I've got it.
I've got it.
Slaves, kids making your 90 quid Nike boots.
But there's going to be a rainbow flag on it.
So don't come for me.
It's just also...
How do they not know they're being had?
Again, it's this whole thing, and you said it from the beginning, the whole media gaslighting thing where you are just being gamed from the beginning to the end.
I can't like, at Christmas, my parents came over for Christmas and I have to tell them at the beginning because when they come over they watch the BBC News and stuff like that and I just, I can't handle it and I just said to them, look I'm sorry, you can't, you can't put the news on.
I can't watch it.
And then they expose the kids to it.
And then the kids come back going, oh, did you know?
And it's just some unbelievable, again, wokery.
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
You can't.
Just watch anything else but this.
Yeah, no, I agree.
As Morrissey says, stop watching the news because the news is there to frighten you.
Yeah, that's basic.
I mean, it's not just frightening you, it's just non-stop lines.
But yeah, yeah, no, so that...
I was thinking, when you talked a moment ago, what possessed people?
Like, it's hard to believe, some of the things that happened in the last few years, it's hard to believe they actually happened, but they did, I know.
Those people said, right, now what we're going to do, what you're going to do is at 6pm, was it 7pm on a Thursday evening, you're going to go outside your front door, And you're going to take a pot and a pan from your kitchen, or maybe a spatula or a wooden spoon, and you know, even Nigel Farage went for this, and you're going to bang it Why am I doing this thing?
Well, because it's for the NHS.
For the nurses.
And you're thinking, hang on a second, this shit organisation which has been treating us all badly for generations, since the end of the war.
And it's really crap.
And we know that the nurses are actually making TikTok videos.
They're not really treating COVID patients because COVID's made up anyway.
And you've got to participate in this... Yeah, the banging of the... Well, because I just think they're people and they're sniggering as well.
Like, people are laughing when you do that.
And how much do they really value the nurses, right?
Because now they're not giving them their pay rise they once.
So that's how much the politicians really, ooh, we really value our nurses.
Yeah, can we have a pay rise?
Because you've pumped so much money into the economy, you've caused massive inflation.
Our salary can't cover our basic costs.
Yeah, no, sorry.
Sorry, we don't have any of the money for your pay rise.
We gave it all to Pfizer.
Go over and ask all the CEO of Pfizer for it back, because we're all out.
The kit is empty.
And let's not forget the people who got the PPE contracts.
They were.
Like Matt Hancock's Publican.
The guy who runs Matt Hancock's Pub.
How does that work?
How is that not?
You know, and then the latest guy, Zuwa... what's his name?
Zuwa Tahari.
Yeah, who didn't... who mixed...
He's not a crook.
He's definitely not a crook, Laura.
I just want to say now, for the record, he's definitely not.
He missed his tax bill even when he was Chancellor.
I mean, this is kind of... This is banana republic levels of corruption.
It's actually... He wouldn't know about finance.
He's only one of the richest Victoria's businessmen and former Chancellor of the Chequers, so he wouldn't know.
But I definitely think they get around a table at least once a week and just literally laugh at the proles and say, you know, what are they going to fall for now?
Yeah, it's the dinosaur, that lizard meme.
You've seen that meme where all the lizards, people are at a party and they're just laughing their heads off.
And then we told them to do this.
Yes.
Yeah, and what I don't get is all the left-wing people who you know absolutely Hate the Tories, perhaps justifiably, and hate Boris Johnson, and know how corrupt these people are, know how they're just funneling stuff to their friends in the city, and blah blah blah, but will line up like lemmings, you know, for this vaccine, and wholeheartedly supports the lockdown, wholeheartedly wearing their face mask, and you're like, but you hate him!
You don't trust him on any other issue, but you do on this.
Well, they'll just say, well, no, I mean, I trusted the doctors or whatever.
I don't know.
I don't get the thinking behind it.
I just, it's, yeah, it's difficult to understand.
It really is.
It's scary though.
It's very hard, isn't it, being right?
I'm not necessarily saying... I mean, you will say, I know more what's going on.
And you interview guests.
I know you interviewed one of your... I haven't finished the podcast.
You say, well, you know, they look at certain things and they really look behind them.
The thing is, I'm not saying I know all of this because I just don't have the time necessarily to do all the research, but I do know one thing and that's that whatever the mainstream media are telling you is not to be trusted.
That's, you know, that's the first thing.
That's a pretty good starting point.
But you also know, Laura, you know who ultimately... Because the big question is, a lot of people down the rabbit hole ask, is who ultimately is responsible for all this?
And you know.
You know who's responsible.
Dark Lord?
I mean it's it's well it's the devil.
Yeah well I mean there's yeah yeah I mean he's he's yeah he.
Come on he's the main man I mean in terms of he is the god of this world according to Paul.
Yeah well also you know there's just a lot more again I think the exorcist priest said that there's there's so much more sort of what you might call low-level satanic stuff that people are willing to dabble with now you know that's kind of gone mainstream.
Balenciaga?
That's gone mainstream.
Say again?
They're much more open about it than they were.
I mean, they're really in your face.
You only have to look at pop videos today to see the sort of satanic imagery.
But the fashion industry is just absolutely riddled with it.
Yeah, the fashion industry.
A lot of the movies.
There's a lot of it in popular culture where it kind of just seeps in, you know, without you noticing.
You have to be really careful.
You know, you've got to be careful about what... I mean, my kids read Harry Potter.
I'd rather they didn't.
Oh, well, I bet you would.
I mean, that was... Laura, one of these days, but not now because I've actually got to go out now.
You've got to do your lunch, yeah.
Um, but one day we should have a discussion about Harry Potter and actually, you know, if I could have my... I know, because I feel, I just feel so guilty then.
It's just a crushing guilt because I really, I really shouldn't even have them in the house.
But, um, yeah, no, we did, I did, I did watch Lord of the Rings with my, I re-watched them all with my son over Christmas in a very sort of...
Full attempt in mode.
I like, I like to watch that when I'm, I'm sort of, you know, want to rally against the dark side.
And yeah, so it was, I countered it with that.
I don't have the movies on, but the books are still there.
I think he, I think he's one of us, one of ours.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
So is C.S.
Lewis, but there's, yeah.
OK, I'm going to have to go.
But Laura, will you do another one soon?
Yes, definitely, because I've got to tell you all the stuff I watched over Christmas.
I've got to put you right on your tennis thing about Kyrgios and all this stuff.
I love Kyrgios.
I knew you would, that's another man thing.
I'm going to tell you why you shouldn't love Kyrgios.
I don't like, I don't like his shouting on the court.
Okay, well that's alright.
I don't like that bit.
No, but I like the fact that he doesn't, he doesn't practice.
That's really cool.
Well that's a very tennis specific thing.
Come on.
You see that, you see.
That's really cool.
No, well he likes it, he does that for, for different, well he said he doesn't practice, I'm sure he does practice, but I mean.
We boys love the idea of sort of effortless security.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
This is exactly it.
Me, I was the nerdy girl, right, who would have done loads of revision in exams and done really well.
And then, of course, the boys come and go and go, oh, yeah, well, I got it.
But I didn't really try.
And you're just like, no, you're doing this to save your ego.
And it's a very, it happens in tennis as well.
I can explain Fuller if you really have to, you know, you have to run on now.
Um, when people nearly don't try in matches, it's called tanking the match because you, you know, you're the better player technically, but for one reason or another, you don't think you can get the better of them.
So you start to not try.
So Kyrgios does this a lot so that you can say at the end, well, I didn't really try, but it's all to save your, it's all to save your ego.
That's all it is.
But he still won that doubles thing.
Yeah, I know.
The doubles.
Oh, they're doing best of three sets now.
That's the latest from Wimbledon.
They're putting the men down to best of three sets for doubles.
What does that mean?
Oh, I see, so they've brought them down to the level of women, which is a terrible, shaming thing.
OK, I've got to go.
Laura, where can people find you?
Conservative Woman.
I'm the Casa Carol.
I write more for the Casa Carol now as well, so you can find us there.
Oh, and yes, good luck with your talk for the Conservative Woman in Seb.
That's going to be... That's sold out, isn't it?
Yeah, so I've got to plug it, but we don't really need to.
But yeah, well, we'll do another one before then.
No, you don't need to.
I mean, I don't think I can get to it just solely for family reasons, but I'll try.
And if you love this podcast, please support me on Substack, on Subscribestar, on Locals, and on Patreon.
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And I love it.
It makes me happy.
Yeah.
No, I'll do it on desktop next time.
OK, take it easy.
Enjoy lunch.
Bye.
Bye, bye-bye.
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