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Dec. 18, 2020 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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James and Laura's Chinwag #6
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Welcome to the James and Laura Chinwag with me James Dellingpole and my very good friend and sparring partner, Laura Perrins.
Laura, we've got so much to be angry about today, haven't we?
Which is good.
We have a lot to be angry about.
I mean, I think if I was running a restaurant or I was, you know, a young budding actress, I would be apoplectic with rage.
But unfortunately, a lot of them seem to be just going along with this, which is which is part of the problem.
Yes.
No, I was thinking about that when you said when you said if I were a young actress and I was thinking, actually, no sympathy there, really, I think most of the The theatrical world is part of the problem.
Did you see Andrew Lloyd Webber's statement?
No.
Tell me.
Right.
Well, I should have printed that.
It was, again, it was the usual.
It did start off with, we're very upset.
We're devastated.
I mean, they'd been open for like, I don't know, maybe 10 days, maybe 14.
Remember, they would have spent a fortune getting all the theatres Covid secure, right?
So they've done all their silly stickers.
They've done all their IT because you can only book the tickets a certain way.
OK, so they've already made a massive outlay on making all these theatres Covid secure.
And then Matt Hancock comes around and says, sorry, we're going to close you.
Busiest time of the year.
So Andrew Lloyd Webber goes, you know, yeah, we're upset and it's bad.
But you know what?
I think it's the right decision.
Because it's for public health so I mean... He didn't say that.
He didn't say that.
Yes he did.
Well because from Andrew Lloyd Webber's point of view, he's alright Jack.
Right?
I mean he... I hope.
I hope he loses every penny.
The man makes money while he sleeps.
And he's too terrified to say, you guys are taking a wrecking ball to the arts and culture.
You know, parking your views on his musicals, blah blah blah.
There's one musical I really like and the rest I can leave.
Um but it's just it's just that rated and so if we can just talk about me for a minute because we don't talk about me enough um so I had only booked right all I wanted to do Christmas We'd bring the kid to two shows I had booked.
And they're small shows, we're not talking name names.
So one was The Little Match Girl, okay, which is in, I think it was in Sadler's Wells and would no doubt have been just like people on stage that it's very arty and half the time you don't know what's going on.
And then another one was for something slightly older, The Wolves of Willoughby Chase or something somewhere else.
Oh yeah.
I don't know that one, but this is all I wanted to do.
We're not going to Ireland.
We're not seeing grandparents.
We're not seeing cousins.
This is all I wanted to do.
No, no.
It took me ages to find them.
It took me ages to book it.
And the thing is that you have to remember, James, is that, you know, the people who act in these shows, right, for kids, they don't do it for the money.
OK, I mean, they probably survive on bread and water.
So they do it for the love of telling the story, right?
They really think they're reaching people's hearts and they enjoy each rehearsal and they enjoy each show and they enjoy connecting.
And they probably think, you know, I've made someone's life better.
I've opened a window for a child who previously may not have thought a certain way.
And then they've just crushed this.
And it's not, you know, they don't do it for the money.
All they do it is for the love of doing the actual activity.
And Matt says, no, you can watch Netflix for your whole for the rest to the next three months.
And these are all young people.
And they, I would imagine, will be, a lot of them will be kind of driven to despair.
It's like, you know, if we, when we were in our twenties and you just woke up and you looked at this entire day, I don't think you should forget how hard it must be for some people day to day.
They wake up and they have hardly anything to do for their entire day.
This is dangerous.
You know, and I said, I could do the whole, I'm all right, mate.
I'm always super busy.
We, if you have a young family, you're, you're okay.
Cause you're busy anyway.
You know, but if you don't have a family and you don't have a job, these days are very, very long.
You can't see your friends, you can't go to the pub, you can't even do your acting for the minimum wage while you live in some hideous flat chair for the love of your art.
And these bastards come along and just say no, even though you're COVID secure.
Like, surely these theatres, they're either Covid secure or not, right?
The restaurants are either Covid secure or not.
So it doesn't even make sense on their own logic.
Why are you letting... It's ridiculous.
That's the problem.
The whole business is a charade.
No, I agree.
It parted company with the epidemiology a long, long time ago.
In fact, probably when Professor Ioannidis Looked at the Diamond Princess cruise and realised that the mortality rate, the IFR, was much, much lower than the political establishment has decided it is.
This is just flu, and not even the worst flu.
It's a bad flu year, but it's no worse than 2017 and 2018.
And this is what really bothers me about this.
Those of us who are informed, those of us who listen to people like Ivor Cummins or Mike Yeadon or Synecdoche or whatever, know perfectly well certain things about coronavirus.
That it's now endemic, pretty much, although we've done a pretty good job of stopping it becoming endemic, or rather delaying the moment when it becomes endemic by these ridiculous lockdowns.
And we know that it is eminently survivable unless Pretty much, unless you were going to die anyway.
That's what they mean by comorbidities, isn't it?
You were kind of in the last chance, Luna, anyway.
Yeah.
And we know that they're just now making it up as they go along.
I mean, the latest excuse touted by Matt Hancock for putting London in Tier 3 was what?
There's a new variant!
There's a new variant!
Which is what viruses do.
They mutate.
I mean, it's like... Yeah, well, before that I was like, I can't believe they're pulling the new variant trigger now.
I just...
You know, and then it's a bit, it's kind of hung in the air.
I saw on Twitter by Van saying, it probably won't get around the vaccine.
Probably.
And then some little journalist from LBC is like, Ooh, that will strike the fear of God into people.
And I'm like, well, I'm sure you'll help with that.
I'm sure you'll help terrify the last few people who weren't terrified.
Shame on you.
I mean, who was that?
Who was that?
I mean, in fairness, it's Tim Montgomery who said the same thing.
I forget.
Not a known one.
Just some rant.
You know, I don't even I want to say it.
What was Tim Montgomery saying?
I know he was like, I'm sure.
Yeah, he was with me.
I'm sure you'll help strike the fear.
You know, this is what you've been terrorizing people for months, you know.
So, um, He is like a stopped clock.
He's right twice a day.
He's been OK on the COVID thing.
So he's been OK on the COVID thing.
Look, I mean, what can you say?
It's just, it's a disgrace.
People should stop going along with it, but they will.
I genuinely, really, my heart goes out for young people who are going to, this is going to be a really tough Christmas for them or other people who are going to be on their own.
People who've locked themselves away for months.
And again, you know, in time too, there's another little supplement.
How can you have a safe Christmas?
Don't hug your grandparents.
Oh, and then while we're at it, and then another article on Sky yesterday, basically, so you know how they like to demonise the teenagers now.
How dare they even exist?
You, you, you super spreading individuals.
I'm like, you're demonising your youth, your rising generation.
What kind of society does that?
You know, I mean, this is sick.
And the way they had set it up as well, they were like, oh, spending time in... Because like you, when we talked about going through words and how you dissect an article.
So it set it up again.
You spend time indoors at Christmas and young people hugging their grandparents.
This is a petri dish for the virus.
And it's like you have turned the family home into, you know, a Petri dish, something to be something dirty, something where bad things exist, viruses and germs.
I mean, this is this is the work of of darker forces.
I mean, this is it's a scandal.
We've talked about this before.
It is it is definitely the work of the work of Satan.
I just give you I give you the sort of the teenagers, well, the university age perspective.
Which is that, so, as you know, I've got kids at university right now.
Okay.
And they say that... two at university and one is growing up.
Right.
And the ones at university tell me that it depends on who your housemates are.
Yep.
I mean, I heard one horrible story about a friend of my daughter's who's, I think she's at York, and she's ended up in a house with Complete bedwetters.
You know, absolutely mask fanatical.
And they wouldn't let her go out.
They wouldn't let her go socialising.
It was extraordinary.
Basically, she had to come home because she was being made so miserable.
Whereas, I have to say, my kids, being little dallypoles, just don't give.
Give a stuff.
They've been, I mean, you know, my daughter was in London yesterday drinking in the Bluebird, drinking Bloody Mary's in the Bluebird Cafe, making the most of it before, before, you know, Dad, is there, is there going to be a tier three?
Yeah, I said, yeah, I'm afraid there is.
Yeah.
But they, they, they think it's all, it's all, it's all bullshit.
So it varies, but I agree the experience for, I mean, if you're in your early twenties, you should be You know, I don't know whether you're not allowed in the Catholic Church, but you should be drinking and shagging.
I mean, that's the deal, isn't it?
That's what you should be doing.
And finding your future spouse, I think.
You should be finding your future spouse, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I mean, I tell you, it almost would make me want to push the philandering because, you know, the fear people have of other people.
You're just like, you need to get over yourself.
Look, I can understand if a young person is like, OK, look, I'm going to live my life.
But you know what?
Maybe, look, I'm just saying I understand.
They say, look, I'm going to take my two weeks out before I see my grandparents.
Okay, I can understand if, as a matter of conscience, this is what they would want to do.
But if you know you're not going to see anybody vulnerable for months and you still decide to hide in your student hall, I mean, you need to get a grip, you know?
Oh, but I think we need to be careful here.
Yeah.
Look, I don't think By the way, I love the idea of having sex purely as a gesture against, as a sort of F.U.
gesture against coronavirus.
I think that's a really good incentive.
Why not?
That's not the official line.
I just need to put that out there.
No, of course not.
That's my job.
I'm saying, kids, go and do it to show your contempt for the coronavirus.
But what does bother me is that, you know, what you said just then.
Fair enough if kids want to go into quarantine for two weeks before seeing grandma.
Hang on a second.
Already we are accepting the made-up narrative of the tiny cabal, which is what it is, that's got hold of our government and the German government and the... well, every government pretty much, apart from... They're even trying it on in Sweden, aren't they?
There are these forces... Are they going to capitulate in Sweden?
I mean... I think not.
Yeah.
I mean...
They've got to be closed bastions.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
I know.
It's bad if Sweden capitulates.
It's bad news.
I think I said it before.
This is our World War Three.
It's just not as we expected it.
It's not yet sort of battles between fighter aircraft.
Well, I mean, fighter aircraft are pretty much obsolete now.
No, that's not going to happen.
No, it's not.
But this is China.
Yeah.
This is the Great Reset.
This is Agenda 2030.
And it is incumbent upon us to fight back now rather than later.
I saw that phrase the other day.
Appeasement now, war later, is what we're doing now.
We are just making things much, much harder the more we accept this stuff.
And they know this as well.
Yeah, I know.
The police are really clamping down hard on any protests against coronavirus.
They're fine if it's Black Lives Matter, because the coronavirus knows if you've got a Black Lives Matter t-shirt on, it doesn't get you.
Nor does it mind if you're protesting about the environment, Extinction Rebellion.
It's a very clever virus.
It sings those letters, XR, or smells the patchouli, or unwashed armpits, or plaited armpit.
It detects the plaited armpit hair.
And it knows instantly that you are a trustafarian who wants to bomb the economy into the dark ages so it doesn't attack you.
But if you are protesting against the government's draconian, I mean, unprecedented coronavirus policy, I mean, even during the Black Death, they didn't have policies like this.
Well, they didn't need to, but you would have self-isolated, right, if you saw people dropping.
How bad can a virus be if you have to get tested to know you have it?
I mean, for goodness sake, what's wrong with you people?
You never test health.
It's just insane.
I mean, why can't people see what they're doing?
Yeah, I mean, you can see the exasperation.
No, but you're right in terms of not appeasing and fighting back.
And then I'm always torn about, you know, how much fighting.
Are you just shouting into the silence?
Because, you know, when people say, I'll remain neutral, I'm going to go along with it.
You are screwing over the true freedom fighters that will have to come, you know, down the line.
So all the appeasers who didn't take on Hitler at the beginning are responsible for putting all the 20-something-year-old men on the beach on Omaha, right?
On D-Day.
They had to do that.
They had to do that because you flipping cheese-eating surrender monkeys wouldn't stand up to them, you know, when you had the chance.
I mean, it comes in interesting.
I mean, if we just sort of do some blue sky thinking, because I have a book here on my coffee table.
You know, how bad would it have to get either, sort of, A, before people really start fighting back and maybe putting their jobs on the line, or B, to say leave?
Because I'm always interested to know, you know, I look, do you ever watch The Handmaid's Tale?
Oh yeah, a bit.
I'm loving my marriage on it.
All right.
So all right.
Well, I do what's called a hate watch.
So there are a few things that I will watch, but hate doing so because I just need to know what the people are watching.
Right.
And the Handmaid's Tale is one of them.
Now, of course, the problem with Handmaid's Tale is that the lead actress in it, what's her name?
Oh, you know her.
You'll know her.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, that one.
The one from Mad Men.
Yeah, she's actually very good.
So she can sell garbage.
So she's very, very good.
But in the early series, right, of that, it shows, you know, things are getting bad in America, supposedly, right?
And they, oh, do you know what they do in the Handmaid's Tale?
They transfer money from her account to the husband's account.
So you can't use cash anymore.
Can't use cash anymore.
No cash.
Right.
And that actually is in the book as well.
And then she's fired from her job.
So loads of bad things start happening.
And then it shows them trying to flee.
Then the shit really hits the fan.
And then they try and leave America to get to Canada.
And of course, he can't do it because he's only got a revolver because he's a left liberal and never got proper weapons and never got trained.
Serves him right.
By the way, isn't it weird they're fleeing to Canada for safety?
I mean, Canada is kind of the Yeah, Margaret Atwood is Canadian, so America's Evil in Canada is great.
But when I watch it, I always think, why did you wait so long?
Like, why didn't you get out earlier?
So I'm reading, it's actually a child's book, but I'm reading Judith Caire's When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit.
I never knew she was Jewish.
Her family was Jewish.
She wrote Mog, The Forgetful Cat.
Right.
So so her family was Jewish and the father was a well-known writer.
And if he had left it a day later to flee Germany, they would have gotten his passport and they would have been shipped off.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So when I just it's just interesting in that, you know, you're kind of saying you're kind of sitting there, you're thinking, how bad would it really have to get before you thought I need to I need to get out of here?
You know, it's.
But Laura, there's nowhere to go.
This is the problem.
Well, this is this is this is a global this.
The Great Reset is global.
Look, you think about the places that one used to fantasize about fleeing to New Zealand, New Zealand being colonized ages ago by Jacinda Ardern and her woke Easter's Australia.
Completely cut.
I mean, the outback's fine, but the cities are full of... I mean, cities are as bad as Ireland, and you know how bad Ireland is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Germany.
Germany, gone.
Not necessarily for you to Germany.
No, you never want to go to Germany!
I like Germany, but I'm not sure I want to live there permanently.
So then you think, well, where traditionally, well, certainly during the last two world wars, who has saved our arses?
And it's the Americans.
America.
Which is why I am so personally invested in this election with Donald Trump.
I still think that it's a near impossibility that Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated as president.
Because I think that America is not going to... You know, all that stuff about the Second Amendment, all their love of the Constitution, they take their checks and balances and their Constitution so much more seriously that they value it more.
They value it more than we value our English common law and all the things that we've taken for granted up until now.
And now we're seeing being torched in a trice by By, again, a small number of people.
But I think the evidence is so strong that this election was stolen.
I mean, for example, the Dominion voting machines which magically convert Trump votes into Biden votes.
I don't see, despite the reluctance of the Supreme Court to get its hands dirty and deal with this embarrassing situation, It is ultimately going to be an appeasement now, a war situation.
The people are going to realise that and they're just going to go, well, hang on, we can't allow this to happen because there's not going to be another, you know, in four years time.
What do you think they will do though?
Because there's no Supreme Court route now.
There is, yeah, there are Supreme Court routes.
The Supreme Court, what it did was it sat on its hands.
It said that the, The Texas application had no standing.
It was a loophole.
It was a loophole which it exploited to get itself off the hook.
Trump's just gone and sacked his Attorney General, Bill Barr.
Barr was absolutely useless.
Presumably he's going to appoint somebody who is more robust.
You've got the... I mean, you have to get this stuff off obscure places on Twitter, because you don't get it from the newspapers.
You don't get it from the Telegraph or the Mail.
So there are things like in Michigan, this is just to update you, in Michigan yesterday, one of the judges allowed one of the forensic investigative team to publish their deep dive into the Dominion voting machines.
And the margin of error allowed in the electoral laws of Michigan is something like 0.0002 something.
Right.
And the actual margin of error was 65%.
So Do the math.
I mean, we're talking thousands of times more on less reliable.
So these are these are things that and also you've got to remember that any functionary of the of the of the state who allows who gives this the nod and says, you know, yeah, this is acceptable automatically implicates themselves.
I think criminally, I think they open themselves up to a minimum No, maximum maybe five-year jail sentence, but fines.
So it's quite serious business.
So the upside, the positive way of looking at this, if you believe all the kind of people on the internet, on our side, is that this is one massive trap, and that there are going to be a lot of people doing jail time.
And thank goodness, because if this doesn't happen, The people who are going to be running the world are Klaus Schwab, Hillary Clinton, Mark Malek Brown, Lord Malek Brown, the very, very dodgy, dodgy chap by Tony Blair.
Yeah.
Did I mention George Soros, Bill Gates?
Yeah.
We're talking it's like a kind of club of billionaire gangsters.
Yeah.
It's I mean, I mean, it's scary.
So, I mean, the question is, I agree with all of that, and we'll, you know, we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
There's certainly, there's a lot at stake, but what I don't understand, what do we think is the very end game here?
I mean, is it a great reset?
Is it the vaccine?
Is this, you know, I mean, I guess it's both.
Yeah, go on.
Why would they do this?
I, look, you, you and I are Relatively normal people, and that we're not psychopaths.
I think that the people doing this stuff are genuine psychopaths, and they think that they're the good guys.
Bill and Melinda actually imagine that they're the good guys.
And by the way, another thing...
By the way, of course, it's population control.
So this is where you get even darker.
So this is what makes me very nervous.
They have been pushing population control for, what, a decade?
I mean, they just have a big problem with the poor people having the babies.
They really, really, really, really get them, you know?
So, their involvement should always ring alarm bells.
And he's all over!
Did you see that clip of him on CNN?
And he's like, you know, they're talking to him, the giveaway is.
They're talking to him like he rules the world, which I guess he probably does.
And it's like, so how long do you think this will go on for, Bill?
And he's like, well, I don't know, it might be another nine months, you know, we'll see.
And maybe we'll get back to normal then, but maybe not.
And it's, you know, the vaccine.
And you're just like, why?
Why are we talking to him, first of all?
You know, it's the assumption that, of course, we should be talking to Bill.
It's Bill.
It's Bill, you know?
I mean, it's just... Yes.
It's very, very... Doesn't it show, by the way, how cheap, how cheap, how easily bought so many people and institutions are?
OK, so Gates has poured gazillions into places like Imperial College, which, of course, was responsible for the dodgy dossier, if you like, the ridiculously inaccurate computer modelling that tipped us into this disaster in the first place.
But you think He gave three and a bit million, I think, to the Telegraph.
Yeah.
And the Telegraph was bought for three and a bit million.
I mean, how can they consider themselves a newspaper anymore?
They've given up all their integrity.
With that donation, they gave up all their integrity.
They said, OK, you own our arse, Mr. Gates.
Yeah.
So three million, that's...
You know, people, people portray their own people a lot.
And again, you know, bringing it back to the movie that always reminds me of that scene in Braveheart, you know, when they're about to win the battle and the nobles or something had turned and, and they got, and anyway, one of the, the barons couldn't believe it.
And they, they had evil guys like, you know, and they, and others turned for a lot less, you know, they turned for a lot less.
People can be, very easily.
Because you're Irish, you like Braveheart because it's attacking the English, whereas I don't watch that kind of nonsense.
It's about William Wallace.
It's not about Bannockburn, is it?
It's about William Wallace.
I won't watch it.
I don't like the idea of... I mean, we live it for real every day, don't we, with the SNP?
Yeah, yeah.
That's okay.
That's okay.
You know, it's another divide there underneath.
But it brings us, it can bring us to the Telegraph with that run-in.
So remember, like that piece last week?
Who wrote that piece saying we should all surrender kind of thing?
And I told her she was a stupid woman and then felt guilty about it.
Oh yes, Shirelle Jacobs.
And you and I both felt bad about it afterwards because we got very cross in the heat of the moment.
Sorry?
I didn't think you did.
No, apparently we've established on another podcast that I'm on the spectrum.
People said, because I don't have any filter, and I said, do you think I'm on the spectrum?
And somebody said, I've got two autistic sons, you are definitely on the spectrum.
Anyway, I do have feelings, I do have feelings of guilt, and you know, I don't like...
I don't like shitting on allies, but at the same time, as I've said on another, I do like playing the role of the NKVD commissar at the back of the battalions, waiting to machine gun them should they not show sufficient zeal in the face of the enemy.
But I think, you know, either you fight or you...
Go home to mummy, but don't hang around in the battlefield sort of getting in the way.
And sort of don't say it publicly.
So we should explain this.
So to the viewer is that there was a piece in the article in The Telegraph written last week by Cheryl, I forget her surname.
Yeah, and it was a bit like, you know, the losses, the losses for the lockdown sceptics have been so, have been so great.
You know, we need to, we need to regroup.
And also maybe we, maybe you're right in that this was the killer.
Maybe we shouldn't dismiss vaccine passports so easily.
And you're like, oh my goodness.
You can, you can argue about tactics, although you shouldn't do it in public, but to actually argue and sort of concede ground to these power-hungry Hungry nutbags!
Like, what is wrong with you?
So I tweeted, you know, you stupid woman.
And I think it's true.
You have no idea how bad it could have been if it wasn't for the pushback we've given.
And I think it's been significant.
And then and then also there was the issue about the passport vaccine.
And then I said, look, I'm sorry, I shouldn't.
I shouldn't have called her a stupid woman.
I should have said it was a stupid article.
Yes, you should.
Love the sin or hate the sin.
Attack the idea.
The bad, bad, bad idea.
But it was a really, really, really bad idea.
Yeah, but why is she even writing stuff like that?
I mean, it's just, it's so...
Yeah, I mean, in a way you're proving a negative.
I mean, it could have been.
I mean, I think it's bad, but I think it could be a lot worse if you, me and I think we're a small band of, you know, brothers, whatever, Peter Hitchens, just if there was no opposition, you know, you have to put up some opposition to people like Matt Hancock or we will be locked down forever.
You know, these people are crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, you know, you need to keep an eye on them.
I mean, they love power, right?
So even if we're wrong, I say to myself, well, even if I'm wrong in the end game, and I am, you know, I've lost it completely.
I'm like, you should always keep an eye on people in government.
All they want to do is exercise their power.
And it used to be, you know, and the opposition, Labour, don't seem interested in sort of curbing their power at all.
So, you know, you need to keep an eye on these people.
Otherwise, you don't know where you'd be.
It's, you know... Can I tell you what else has been really getting on my tits recently?
Go on.
And this is, of course, this is part of the problem.
I do not give a flying fuck about articles about Brexit.
Brexit is a complete, complete distraction.
It's like, it's like...
All the conservative commentariat, pretty much, are wanking on about, sorry, but they are writing pieces about, ooh, and will this happen?
And will he give away the fishing rights?
Or will we get 30%?
And it's Boris, and he's out there, and he's gone out there, and he's dealing with Barnaby.
And you're thinking, hello?
Have you not noticed that London, the world's, the city of which it was said, when a man is tired of London, he's tired of life.
This once thriving metropolis has been reduced to a husk.
The businesses are going to be, may never recover.
And here you are talking about a tiny trading agreement, which is going to make no difference whatsoever compared with what's happening now.
And it's like, It's... No, I agree.
We're being played.
We're being controlled.
Yeah.
And we're being... And we've discussed this before.
This business is about, ooh, is it going to be Tier 3 or Tier 2?
Are we going to get gruel rations today?
Or are they going to give us a tiny teaspoon, a half teaspoon of sugar to sugar our gruel?
It's wrong.
It's completely wrong.
We should just open everything up right now.
Lots of people are going to be watching this, our special audience, but we are the only release file they've got.
They can't get this in the Telegraph or the Mail or any of the papers that they relied on before to look after their needs.
There's nobody looking after them.
Well, I mean, that is amazing, though, that you said that about Brexit, because I did look at your Twitter feed and I'm like, James doesn't seem to care about Brexit.
And I also don't care about Brexit.
It's really hard to say, oh, we'll be able to buy all the bendy bananas now because, you know, remember the EU?
They didn't like the bendy bananas and now we can buy the bendy bananas.
You can't go to the pub.
What is wrong with you?
People cannot work.
You know, you can't go to a restaurant.
Who cares about... I mean...
You know, it just makes it such also, I mean, when I get into my very dark face, part of me thinks, are we being punished for for the Brexit thing?
Because, you know, Boris, the only reason Boris is in power is because people wanted to get Brexit done, including me, including me.
OK, including me.
And I'm like, are we being punished for this?
Because if it was a trade off, I would stay in the EU and end the lockdowns.
Although it's probably a false dichotomy.
OK, it's a false solution.
Oh God, 100, 100 percent.
I mean, you know, they didn't want to come along and, as I said, trash our jobs and close the schools and destroy the city of London.
I mean, they just, you know, like, it's so, what is, yeah, what is wrong?
Get over it.
And it's just, I mean, Boris is never going to give them what they want anyway.
This is the thing, you're not going to get your, he's too scared to go out with no deal.
So I don't think that's going to happen.
And he'll tie it up for another couple of years or whatever it might be.
And, um, you know, I mean, you're, you're completely, you're completely right.
And isn't it weird how they brought out the vaccine and then it became the deadline and then the new variant all seemed to happen at once.
I mean, it's just, it's a miracle!
I think, let's just savour it again, the new variant.
I mean, talk about, that's not even dog at my homework, that is the cat at my homework.
And cats never eat homework, it's that implausible.
They're taking the piss.
Oh well, there probably is a new variant, because that's what happens with the flu.
That is what happens with the flu.
And they chose this flu-like thing for a reason, if you go to the real dark side, because they knew they could have their new variants.
So they knew they could change the goalposts whenever they want.
You know, I mean, it just depends on how evil you want.
You know, they didn't choose something that you knew, you know, you couldn't manipulate.
But no, no, it's a new it's a new variant.
So I mean, it'll be in June.
There'll be another new variant.
And supposedly the media at the press conference were absolutely outrageous.
I didn't want I couldn't watch it.
Right.
I could because you just want it.
You want to kill your TV screen.
But, again, all the BBC could ask, you know they're still gunning for these Christmas regulations.
Well, you've closed the pubs and restaurants.
So, you know, do you really think it's a good idea to let households mix over Christmas?
Well, also, shouldn't they be closing the chimneys so that Father Christmas can't get in?
Because otherwise, he's gonna... I mean, can you imagine?
Super spreader.
I mean, please, they're actually running.
Supposedly, there is an ad out there that has Father Christmas in the bed.
Sick!
Another ad terrifying children.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I mean, these people aren't well.
These people are not well.
It's sad, isn't it, that even with Beth Rigby out of the picture, I imagine whoever replaced her is similarly uninterested in asking questions like, Why are you closing down the economy and destroying businesses and killing jobs in the name of a virus which is no worse than the one in 2017-2018?
What's going on?
Nobody's answering that question.
What I don't understand, because I haven't been to any of these conferences, Are they only open to people who are going to ask tame questions which actually endorse the government's narrative?
First of all, I think they're still out of the room and it's all done through Zoom.
Now, with your usual people, Laura Waterface from the BBC and Sky...
I mean, I think the journalists themselves, again, I mean, they're just hired guns.
It's coming from the top, right?
It's coming from the corporate top, right?
This is the line.
We've got to take the public health line.
Why aren't the rules stronger?
If you're closing pubs and restaurants, why aren't you closing shops?
If you're closing shops, why are you letting people mix?
You know, why are they even allowed to live kind of thing?
You know, beastly people with their beastly germs.
But it's at a journalist.
Don't you just wake up one day and say, I can't do this anymore.
Like, I have to resign.
How big a story would that be?
If Adam Bolton or someone, but they're all, you know, or Louie Kuhnberg said, I actually don't agree with terrorizing the public in this way anymore.
I'm resigning.
I think there's, I think there's only about five actual journalists left and two of them worked for a conservative woman.
Yeah.
I mean, we are, this, you think about it, there's, okay, so there's people who are, Sound on the culture wars.
People like Douglas Murray does a very good job there.
Yeah.
People like who are very sound on free speech and coronavirus, which Douglas isn't, by the way, on coronavirus.
So you've got Toby Young.
Yeah.
You've got you've got Hitchens, who is absolutely rock solid on coronavirus, although he's not so good on kind of fighting back.
And I don't think he's really connected the dots with regards to the Great Reset and stuff.
He just doesn't go there.
I think he's against it in principle.
And I think that's fine.
In a way, that's my position.
I am against it.
It is wrong for the government to destroy people's livelihoods like this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure.
But you've got to understand, I think, in order to be able to be effective in fighting back on what's going on, you have to understand where it's coming from.
You have to first ask the question, why are they doing this?
Yeah.
And then you come up with the answer if you've looked underneath the rock and seen the creatures crawling out.
What you realise is that it's worse than you could ever possibly imagine.
And most people don't want to go there.
But I'm thinking, who is actually sound on coronavirus, on Trump, on the Great Reset, on the culture wars?
And it's pretty much you, me, Cathy.
Who else is there?
We are really, really alone, apart from sort of left field people like Vanessa Beely.
And I'm realising that the whole of the, every part of the establishment, from the mainstream media, obviously the BBC, the government, local government, what else?
I mean, the big corporations, the legal establishment, they're all against us.
Yeah, yeah.
How do we fight back?
The police are against this as well.
Well, OK, so let's do the Supreme Court and the police.
The first of all, the thing is, because I was a defence lawyer, people might think I used to prosecute, but actually I was always defence.
So I spent a fair bit of time, I wasn't there for a deal, but I spent a fair bit of time cross-examining coppers, which I can tell you is fun, right?
Because I'm sorry, look, I admire that they genuinely do put their lives on the line, Okay, and they are dealing with some tough people.
But I'm sorry, coppers lie.
They lie all the time.
All the time.
I used to get loads of it.
You know, it was and also they love the petty stuff.
So they like to police the small petty stuff.
So this Yeah, so policing the masks and policing the two meters and all that.
This is right up their street.
Or, you know, oh, you drove to the Lake District.
Yeah, they love that.
Mass raping of girls in Rotherham.
No, no, no, no.
No, I have some.
There's someone not wearing a mask down the road.
So, like.
Do you know what?
You remind me just then, I instantly thought of the US Supreme Court, you know, like, like, The Republic is about to be destroyed because a cabal of hard left people have got these Dominion voting machines which completely cheat the election and steal it away.
It's absolutely corrupt.
And the Supreme Court said, oh no, that sounds a bit spicy.
I'm not going to go there.
And you're right.
The same with the police.
They don't want to go to the things that really, really matter.
Mass raping of underage girls by grooming gangs.
I won't do that.
It might be racist.
This was all over the country.
But you, you don't wear a mask in the shop and they are on you.
They are.
So this, this is, this is really, this is really, really up their streets.
That's number one.
Not just, by the way, Laura, they actually clubbed a woman over the head the other day, yesterday.
Yes.
You know, cracked her skull.
Yeah.
That's what you get for, I mean, if you rape a 12 year old girl, fine.
You know, you're going to get probably ignored for 10 years.
But you protest against the They love public order offences, which I have to say were brought in by the Tories, by the way.
So there's loads of like different public order offences.
Were they?
By whom?
Yeah, they were brought in by Michael Howard.
Public order offences, anything racially aggravated, the hate crime, really minor stuff.
I remember like defending... Never trust a Tory.
I remember defending a kid and he was picked up on like a really minor public order offence.
And the coppers had completely made it up, like completely made it up.
But the thing is, he had certain issues.
And if he was convicted of that, it would have had a big implication for how he was cared for and his future education.
I got him off, of course.
But yeah, that's the thing.
So that's the coppers for you.
And as for the Supreme Court, who I'm told didn't take Simon Dolan's appeal either.
This is our Supreme Court.
I have always not been so much against the Human Rights Act as perhaps others on the right have been, because I guess I'm a lawyer and that can be, you know, I always think, well, it's handy to have, you know, because governments can get overreach and maybe, yes, at the moment it often seems to be used by people on the left.
But it's worth having.
And they didn't even take this case.
And I'm like, you know, if you're a rapist being deported, your case is in the Supreme Court.
If you're a terrorist who has to be, you know, what was it, under sort of virtual house arrest, you'll get a hearing.
You'll get a hearing.
If you're a criminal, you'll get a hearing.
But if you're a law-abiding citizen who has his business closed down over the flu, no, we're not even going to listen to that case.
I mean, do you want me to really press you?
No, no.
Also, I mean, I don't know.
I didn't look at the papers.
I should have looked.
So I don't know what they were, what articles they were using, but what they should use.
The big article for me, when we set up our COVID crimes tribunal and we're prosecuting Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson, I think it's article two or three says nobody can be subjected to inhumane and degrading treatments.
And the thing is, that's absolute.
So all the other articles are like subject to public health, subject to, oh, it's a balance, blah, blah, blah.
But that article, it's essentially a prohibition against torture.
But to me, walking around mandating masks is inhumane and degrading.
Closing your business down is degrading.
And that's absolute.
And it cannot be balanced against, you know, a made up flu.
So I don't know if you had that in there, but that is, that's the way to go.
That's what I'm going to charge Hancock with.
Do you think we're going to... I mean, I obviously want you on that panel.
Do you think it could happen?
Is it possible?
I mean, maybe.
I mean, it depends on how much destruction they intend on wreaking.
I mean, at the moment, of course, they're buying everybody off with furlough, etc.
They're pacifying everybody with that.
But, you know, it depends.
It depends.
But I mean, it's genuine.
I mean, People need to start talking in these terms, not defensive.
Oh, the tier three is is kind of wrong.
And oh, yeah, I mean, I think maybe Oxford Street, it looks a little bit busy.
No, you're guilty of a crime against your own people.
You're guilty of treason.
And when we're, you know, and we're all we're setting up our Covid Crimes Tribunal and people, you're you're you're first in line.
Get your lawyers, lawyer up.
Because you're in trouble.
You've destroyed your own country.
You're a disgrace.
I mean, what can you say?
They have.
Well, I'm very intolerant of waverers.
I think it's a bit like, we used the war analogy before, it's a bit like occupied France.
So you get the sort of the rump of the population who go along to get along.
So they'll try and keep their heads down, don't want to get shot.
Carry on with their businesses.
You then get the collaborators.
Have you seen Lacan Blousion?
It's one of my favourite films.
Louis Mal.
It's really, really good.
It's about this nasty little sort of voyeur who joins the milice.
And the milice are these kind of paramilitary organisation which work with the Germans to, you know, round up Jews, things like that.
And then you've got the resistance who are in a tiny minority.
Tiny?
Because who wants to get Yeah, who wants to get tortured and then shot?
You and I are the resistance.
There's a few more of us, but there's lots of people out there who may not be active resistance, but look up to us.
They realise that we're the good guys and we're fighting their fight for them.
I'm very intolerant of people who get in the way of our fight by even Even sort of tacitly acknowledging, suggesting the government policy is justified.
So there was a guy the other day that I instantly unfollowed on Twitter, who posted that picture of shoppers in Oxford Street, which is what made me think of it.
And it said something like, you know, this has got to be wrong.
Like, no, it's not.
This is normal people desperately trying to do what they used to do in the old days.
By the way, let me recommend If you haven't read it, it's quite hard to find on Twitter because it's a piece in Off Guardian.
Are you following me on Off Guardian?
Off Guardian is... I've come across it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go on.
It's really good.
An article by somebody.
She writes beautifully.
Right.
Not bad.
And it's... Hang on.
Twitter always gives me a kind of special warning when I'm...
This link may be unsafe, says Twitter.
In other words, it's actually doing its job.
Her name is Jillian Diamond.
Just Google it.
Look up Off-Guardian.
A brilliant piece by Jillian Diamond.
It's called, Why This Campaign Of Terror.
Never Outside Wartime Have Populations Been Subjected To Such Outrageous Assault And Battery By Government Propaganda Machines.
And she talks about things like getting up in the morning and everything's normal in her house and then she has to go to the shops.
And she used to go to the shops lots of times for fun and now she thinks twice.
Because why would you not want to go?
This weird mask world of these furtive, shifty, suspicious people.
I went into Waitrose in Stratford-on-Avon.
What was Waitrose the worst?
It's fine in Daventry but Stratford-on-Avon is like going to Tunbridge Wells or somewhere.
Or Exeter.
I mean, they're all bedwetters.
I think that's just outside of London.
Yeah.
I had to go all the way down to Dorset to be told off for not wearing a mask.
I had not been wearing a mask in London for months and months and months, went down to Dorset, all, I'm afraid, the old biddies here should be wearing a mask.
I was like, no, I shouldn't.
With my kids, my dad.
I'm glad you mentioned that, because I'm trying to decide where to I think that one should move to a part of the country where people are most likely to resist.
I think that's the North.
- Sure, the man of the head. - I think that one should move to a part of the country where people are most likely to resist.
And I think that's the North.
I don't think that's the West.
- Well, that brings me on now.
I'm afraid, if anybody is listening from the North, dear friends of the North, don't blame me.
I was tweeting yesterday, obviously, about how outrageous it was that London was going into Tier 3.
Anyway, I get loads of tweets back going, you weren't saying this when the North went into Tier 3.
I'm like, yeah, I was.
Yes, I was.
And I was objected to lockdown back in March, and I objected to the second lockdown, and I objected to you guys going into Tier 3.
And also, we, I'm sorry, but Londoners fund most of the rest of the country.
So even if you don't live here, if you destroy the economy in London, you're destroying your own country.
You're destroying your own, you know, some sources of income.
We, I mean, let's face it, we keep the rest of you afloat.
I'll tell you what, I'm very pro.
This divide and rule thing has been very effective by Matt Hancock, because instead of the Northerners going, yeah, it's a disgrace London's gone into tier 3 as well, it's all like, oh, well, now you know what it feels like.
It's like, what's wrong with you?
Why don't you protest it?
Well, I mean, I haven't done that.
Yeah, but I'm not, you know, I think people can big up the North and the friendliness and all that stuff a bit too much.
I wouldn't assume the resistance will come from there.
I wouldn't assume that.
No, but we've had pockets.
It's ill-reported.
So, for example, when Liverpool, the Gyms of Liverpool, they resisted en masse.
I think something like 80% of them stayed open.
To the point where the police gave up trying to find them because they realised it was a lost battle.
Now, we should be having more of these little skirmishes.
They're really important.
And it's interesting, just going back to the beginning, what you said about Andrew Lloyd Webber.
We know that, OK, so evil billionaires are kind of behind this great set.
But there are lots of people who have lots and lots of money and influence.
Who, it seems to me, like Andrew Lloyd Webber, who are not doing their job.
If you don't want to live in a world where we don't have property anymore, if you don't want to live in a world where we're rationed, where we're discouraged from eating meat, where we might as well be living in China because the social credit system is the same, where we have vaccine passports and stuff.
If you don't want any of this stuff, then why aren't you stamping your little feet And using your influence and bringing it to bear on all those people in the House of Lords with the MPs who are being absolutely useless at the moment.
Why are people not using their influence?
I don't understand it.
Why is it just down to you and me and...
Peter Hitchens and... Because I think the narrative is very strong and currently it's like if you resist then basically you don't care if people die.
And the people die line, you know, it's so effective but it's so dangerous in a way.
You know, again, I mean, I read The Times, James, so you don't have to, right?
Again, keep an eye on them.
That's awful, isn't it?
I know.
I mean, the editorial is all like, I know it's kind of hard, but the first principle for the government to do is to preserve life.
I mean, I'm not 100% sure on that.
Is that the first?
No!
I mean, it's... Who made that rule?
Defence of the realm.
But I don't know if the first duty of them is to preserve life.
And I mean, I'm not going to be... And then I also... Melanie Phillips as well was in there as well.
I mean, it's so upsetting.
It's so exciting.
No, well, I mean, look, you know that it's genuine.
She certainly cannot be bought or sold at all.
It's always absolutely on principle.
She genuinely believes it because I just know her.
And like her whole article was like, oh, it's all like, I mean, I can't believe how stupid the British are and they don't abide by any of the rules.
And the only reason we're in lockdown, I remember reading the sentence because I read it twice.
The only reason we're in lockdown is because people didn't abide by the rules.
Your whole article hangs on that and it's not correct.
The reason why we're in lockdown is because either Boris was pushed by Valence and Ferguson and the rest of the communists out there into putting us into lockdown.
I mean, I'm just wondering how bad we'll have to be before Melanie turns.
Yeah, I know.
I think Melanie's lost.
I know she hasn't been bought or sold.
So I'm just waiting for somebody.
Is it because you get so entrenched in your view, you can't turn around and go, I'm sorry I was wrong?
Because as I said on Twitter yesterday, nothing would have given me greater pleasure than when back in March, people turned around to me and said, now Laura, everything's back to normal.
Weren't you a right nutbag back in March?
And I would have been like, yeah, woo!
So glad I was wrong.
Don't listen to me again.
That's no skin off my... I totally agree.
I'd much rather be wrong.
I'd much rather this wasn't a kind of... I must mention the very depressing thing that I was trying to mention earlier, but you wouldn't let me get a word in edgeways because that's because you and Laura.
That's all right.
The really depressing thing is this, that part of the calculation of the Great Reset is that They move so quickly that we're unable to, by the time we've seen what's happening, by the time enough people have become aware of the Great Reset and what it does, it's too late.
It's too late to do anything about it.
There's a, there's a piece.
It's never.
The reason, the reason I'm so on this stuff is because like, I wrote my book Watermelons 10 years ago and I got three quarters of the way there because the green movement is, is, is the, Prototype of the Great Reset.
I mean, everything up until this year was about was about global warming, climate change.
And that was that was the excuse for this supernational rule.
You know, this new world order.
It was to save the world from the biggest threat it's ever known, which, of course, we know is complete nonsense and based on computer models like COVID-19.
There's a piece by Ben Pyle.
Do you follow Ben?
He writes for us on the website.
Ben's made a very good video talking about how this... I can't remember what they said.
Was it that we all need to go vegetarian or something?
But the point he made was that it's ten people on this committee.
Ten random people.
Well, they're not random at all.
They're part of the Extinction Rebellion sort of activist class.
And yet somehow Our policy, our government policy, our coronavirus policy, is being decided by a handful of activists and power craze loons who have nothing to do with what most of us think.
Most of us would be appalled by this if we knew what was going on.
Yeah, I mean, I can't, as I said, I think it's because They have sort of, yeah, it hasn't come with one big swipe and they've given you just enough to sort of get through.
And they are paying people off with other people's money, money they don't have, that at the moment they're willing, you know, people are willing to go along with it.
But, you know, I have seen a number of articles Where, and I've seen it said, and it's so true what you're saying, in that, you know, they say to tackle climate change, we're going to have big changes to the way we live our lives.
You know, it's going to be really, and coronavirus has shown that we can cope with that.
Yes, yes!
There's nothing blatant about it.
And I thought, I meant to cut it out and stick it on my fridge.
Hugo Rifkin did it, who is just, he's just...
I know, it actually gives me shivers down my spine.
He actually was sort of mocking, you know, he had a kind of sarcastic mocking tone.
He thinks he's funny, but he's not.
And it's like, well, you know, all these, you know, you know, people like me and you, all these COVID idiots or whatever, you know, again, it was like climate change.
We're going to have to change our lives drastically to tackle climate change.
And, you know, coronavirus has shown that we can do this.
And you know, even if we, if we can't, if they don't do it voluntarily, well, you know, we're just going to have to do it through coercion.
And it'll be a shame if we have to, you know, basically said, these people are, are keep talking about authoritarianism.
Wouldn't it be a shame if we had to prove them right?
But, but we will, if it comes to it.
Yeah, I think I will link it.
Yeah, yeah.
He basically just admits it.
I think you should.
If it comes to it, we will coerce you into this chase.
These nasty little fascists need to be exposed because that's what they are.
It's full of fascism.
Yeah, he's part of the I'm alright mate gang.
I mean, it's just, it's just scandalous.
But if we just, oh, by the way, I need to touch on the vaccine again because I think it fits in with the Green agenda.
So you know that you shouldn't, you shouldn't, If you're OK, if you're pregnant, you can't get the vaccine at all.
Right.
And if you're planning, because I looked it up yesterday, if you're planning to get pregnant within three months, you shouldn't get the vaccine.
And remember, there's two shots of the vaccine a month apart.
So that would take you out for like, yeah, for like four or five months.
So it's all basically they're like, you know, don't try and if you want the vaccine, don't try and get pregnant, which, of course, is basically in line with the whole green agenda, because, you know, chill, chill.
Children are bad.
I mean, what was Harry saying?
Harry and Meghan?
It's like, you know, they sucked it up completely.
Oh, well, you know, we'll only have two kids because, you know, to have any more, it's just terrible.
So selfish.
You know, to want to have to work, it's just selfish.
To want to go to the pub, it's just selfish.
Sit at home and watch Netflix and buy all your stuff off Amazon.
Then you'll be happy.
You know, it's just, it's just ridiculous.
But I'm hoping that I'll be one of Megan's unsung heroes.
I think, don't they have an awards list coming out soon?
I think you're on it.
Do they?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hope I'm on it as well.
I think you're going to be on it.
I think I probably am.
I think Megan loves me.
Because, because I'm, I'm, I'm diverse, I think.
Tell me I'm diverse.
I mean, they're just, there are no words for poor, poor Harry.
No, no, no, no.
By the way, I'm right in thinking, aren't I, that you've watched To The Lake?
No!
You know I hardly watch anything on Netflix.
Yeah, but you've got to watch.
You've got to watch.
Episode 5.
Don't skip.
Episode 5 of To The Lake is the best answer to what's going on now.
Just watch it.
I find Netflix, you know, these people, they hate us and they hate your value.
So I find it really difficult to watch any of their stuff.
Same with Hollywood.
I mean... Do you know what?
I was thinking about this.
People say, rightly, that we're not living 1984.
We are living Brave New World.
The Great Reset is Brave New World.
It's kind of allegedly beyond politics.
But one of the things I think we've got very much in common with Brave New World, which makes this year so weird, is that all our kind of waitrose deliveries, all our yummy goodies, all our entertainment, it's gone like clockwork.
All our Soma.
is there for us.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's the thing.
It's like, they seem to understand on some level, as long as you keep giving them their little drugs of escape, give them their TV entertainment, make sure their, I don't know, their Halloumi and Harissa, their Harissa and their Waitrose Essentials come through on time.
And they're gonna, you can just roll over them.
And it's true!
They have rolled over us.
No, I know, I know.
It's depressing.
It's very depressing.
But there was something I was going to say there about about Netflix.
Yeah, I would like to just turn it all off, but I won't.
And then you look, if you go on Netflix and you look at all the old movies.
Now, some of them are OK.
So before the 90s are OK.
And then some of them, you're like the amount of garbage you have pushed on us for years and years and years.
You know, it's kind of weird when you see them in a list.
And I mean, I've watched nearly all of them and I just think, wow, I mean, you've just gotten away with so much.
And all these actors, you know, they really, you know, first of all, they hate religious people.
They hate Christian people.
So it does take me, I'm just like, why are you watching them?
I mean, previous to now, I would have just compartmentalised it.
But it's like, they really hate you.
So why, why are you, you know, why are you watching them?
It's just, it's just, although yeah, on A Brave New World though, because in fairness, Ian Martin and The Times did something on this and he is okay.
I quite like him.
I have a soft spot for him.
Yeah, he's OK.
Yeah, yeah.
And he did call out this over-reliance on experts and scientists, right?
And their incredibly exalted status now in the culture.
You know, again, it's like, oh, you can't question this.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an ology.
You're a scientist, right?
And in the beginning of Brave New World, I remember quite clearly because, you know, all the hatchlings, I think all the hatchlings are there, you know, because it's not done the old fashioned way.
It's the new fashioned way.
It's all in a lab.
And the scientist is like, but you really know where you are.
You know, you can really control them.
And that is exactly what we have.
Yeah, yeah.
That is exactly what we have now.
You know, all the scientists, Ferguson and Valance, and they're sitting in front of their computers and they've got their graphs and they think they can predict what everybody does.
And it's like, you really know where you are.
You know, we know they're not in the pubs and we know they're not in the restaurants.
They're in the houses and we can really control them now.
You know, you can, because I just don't like the way humans, they're unpredictable.
You know, they can do stuff.
And I just think we need to stop giving exalted status to scientists.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
Funnily enough, you see, a lot of the phenomena that I talked about in Watermelons, which I published 10 years ago now, I observed the phenomenon, but I couldn't see why it was happening.
So, for example, I noticed that Radio 4 has this obsession and has long had this obsession with scientists as being a kind of an elite apart from ordinary mortals and you've got things like the incredibly tedious chap called Jim Al-Khalili does this boring program in which he talks to a scientist and you're supposed to
You're supposed to marvel at the marvellous scientificness of the scientists and they've got those two wacky, the man scientist and the girl scientist, although they're probably social scientists who do this.
Isn't, hey, wow, isn't science amazing?
And here's the latest news in science.
And it's, we're being played again.
It's not really about the science.
It's about, well, it's about scientism.
It's about the kind of veneration of their politicised science as this kind of Marxism, one of the things that Marxism did was try to give a kind of scientific inevitability to actually their very spurious and dodgy scientific example, ideology.
So the idea that the collapse of capitalism was inevitable and that there were these things called forced consciousness.
They invented this whole way of rewiring our brain, of thinking in a particular way.
Which was, what's it called?
Dialectical materialism.
It makes no logical sense, but to be a good Marxist, you've got to believe this shit.
In the same way that technocracy, which is what The Great Reset is about, what we're experiencing now, is about the idea that there are these people who know better than you because they've got this thing called science.
But it's not real science, that's the thing.
They claim to be following the science, but they're not.
They're following the politics and twisting the science to support their political aim.
Well, as I said before, that girl, what, Catherine Mickey, who's the behavioural scientist?
Susan Mickey, who sold her family's Picasso for 50 million.
She's a proper communist and she's out there wanting to cancel Christmas, basically, and it seems very angry.
Boris is going, yes please, Susan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll take you seriously.
And today's programme have her out all the time, absolutely all the time.
But as we've said before, if you can make something scientific, then you're not allowed to disagree with it, because it's not political.
We're not taking a political stance.
This is science.
And you know, if you don't go along with it, then there's something wrong with you.
But I mean, look, this COVID-ism and this safety-ism, it's a religion.
You know, it's a religion.
And the mask is part of the special garments of Of being religious.
And, you know, I mean, look, it's that, you know, that it also has a lot of currently restrictions, actually, I don't really want to point this out, have a lot in keeping with sort of more extreme elements of Islam and that you can't play music publicly.
You can't sing publicly.
You can't drink alcohol publicly.
You can't, if you're James Allen, fornicate publicly, essentially, or you can't fornicate at all.
Right.
I mean, you have to cover your face.
Very good point.
I like that Laura.
This isn't good.
This isn't going to end well.
You know, so I think people are, I mean, look, what can you say?
The fact that they've closed pubs is bad.
I mean, people shouldn't underestimate how big a thing it is.
Culturally, going to the pub for, well, basically Britain or Ireland is a really, really big deal.
is a really big deal.
And I wonder if they've done it again to kind of crush people's spirits or to stop any kind of organisation happening.
It's dangerous.
It's dangerous.
And then, I mean, all of this, and I think maybe we'll end on this, is they've just done this on these garbage PCR tests, which I think for the readers, our listeners, we should really explain why they're garbage.
In that they're running these PCR tests, they come up with loads of false
positives and it's it's they're basically looking for tiny fragments of a virus and then they spin it like more than necessary in the lab so if you get any yes yeah go on more cycles the the more cycles they run the the pcr tests at the high and these these cycles are they increase at an exponential level it's not just like yeah yeah it the more cycles it's like 10 times rather than rather than
One notch above and that they're running them at cycles so high.
Yeah, what they do is pick up fragments of virus that your body may have your immune system is already destroyed.
So they're testing for something that isn't a problem.
You're coming up positive even though you pose no infectious risk to anybody that you're not going to die.
You're going to be fine.
Yeah, and this is absurd.
They're essentially Pathologising healthy people.
A functioning immune system is suddenly something bad and dangerous.
Now, where will it end if that's how they're working?
This is not science.
No, and this is why they're going on infection rates.
So they're not really going on hospital admissions.
And even if they were, you get admitted now, when previously, back in March, you wouldn't be admitted for it, right?
They've lowered the bar for admissions.
And, I mean, the death rates also, I mean, are, they're not, they're remaining steady, if anything, and also they're labelling everything, anything with COVID on.
If you die and you had COVID within 28 days, that goes in the death rate.
So the PCR tests are garbage.
Your admission rates can't be compared like for like.
The death numbers are also basically garbage, because if you get hit by a truck but tested positive on your garbage PCR test, then you go down as a COVID death.
The masks we know have been exposed as either not noticeably effective from the Danish study and there's a recent study that say might actually make matters worse.
So this is all public policy based on this science.
When if you look at it, it's completely, it's just utter nonsense.
And they've done lockdowns on this.
People aren't going to work based on PCR tests.
People are locking their kids in self-isolation for two weeks on end on this.
I mean, it's just, as you say, don't be arguing about the small details.
The entire foundation is garbage.
All of it.
And on that note, Laura, I hope you find, you know, I would offer to stage at my own house with my family the wolves of Willoughby Chase and, you know, maybe with the spaniel acting as a wolf and the cat, which is quite large, being a wolf.
But I just, I think your kids might be disappointed.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I haven't told them yet.
I mean, I'm not saying that this is a devastating blow to the parents' house, but it's just, you know, it's one of these small things.
There were bigger things that they've had to cancel and it's just, it's just sad.
It's just...
Are we going to do another one between now and New Year?
This will be our last one.
My kids are off tomorrow.
Oh, between... Yes.
So, I mean, we can wish the viewers a Merry Christmas and we'll... We're missing... Merry Christmas.
Yeah, everyone.
We'll go from there.
But... Look, let's see if we can slip one in.
Yeah.
Because I know people are hungry for it.
Right.
To go with their figgy pudding.
They're saying, bring us Laura and James and bring us Laura and James.
It doesn't scan quite well, does it?
You're not allowed to sing in public, you know.
You're not allowed to sing in public.
You've just infected your wife, James.
I have.
I have, yeah.
OK.
Right.
Well, go out and infect everybody.
Everybody.
And, um... Let's hope next year's better than this one.
Yeah.
Right.
Bye!
OK.
Thank you, James.
Bye!
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