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Blood Rituals and the Destruction of the Nuclear Family with Cregg Lund

Cregg Lund joins Corsi Nation for the sixth in a series about the Luciferian power behind Silicon Valley and nestled underground. In this discussion with Dr. Jerome Corsi, the Silicon Satan author breaks down what's behind the Luciferian blood rituals and their teachings aimed at the destruction of the nuclear family.Silicon Satan is a fictionalized account of Lund's experiences with the Silicon Valley Elite's secret  world. Find out more about the book at https://www.siliconsatan.comVisit The Corsi Nation website: https://www.corsination.comIf you like what we are doing, please support our Sponsors:MyVitalC https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America: https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpGet Dr. Corsi's new book, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear, here: https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-President-John-Kennedy-Headshots/dp/B0CXLN1PX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20W8UDU55IGJJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ymVX8y9V--_ztRoswluApKEN-WlqxoqrowcQP34CE3HdXRudvQJnTLmYKMMfv0gMYwaTTk_Ne3ssid8YroEAFg.e8i1TLonh9QRzDTIJSmDqJHrmMTVKBhCL7iTARroSzQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=jerome+r.+corsi+%2B+jfk&qid=1710126183&sprefix=%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1Join Dr. Jerome Corsi on Substack: https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/Visit The Truth Central website: https://www.thetruthcentral.comGet your FREE copy of Dr. Corsi's new book with Swiss America CEO Dean Heskin, How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush by calling: 800-519-6268Follow Dr. Jerome Corsi on X: @corsijerome1Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/corsi-nation--5810661/support.

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This is Rome Coursey and we have Craig Lund back with us.
Craig is the author of Silicon Satan, which Chris will show you on the screen as we go along.
And also our website, Courseination.com.
Craig has a section on the website that's devoted to his work.
He's posting a new novel in sections and starting to do animations.
It's quite good.
We'll show you that in a second.
But welcome, Craig.
It's good to have you back.
It's good to be back.
Thank you.
And Silicon Satan's book, Craig started this.
We've been working on this for six or seven years.
I mean, it seems like forever.
It was not an easy book.
It's not an easy book to write.
I mean, this is essentially Craig's life story fictionalized.
And Craig was a top, top engineer in Silicon Valley and got to experience the satanic side of Silicon Valley and then managed to find God and escape, which is remarkable.
And the novel is the journey into darkness and then out of darkness in Silicon Valley.
Now, we're showing you here on the website.
You can see here, Chris is now showing you, there's the, to scroll down, you see the Silicon Valley section, and there's new work on this.
There's new work that has not been published except on the website.
And this is Where's Wally, part two.
This is part of the new novel.
And then as you go into the section itself, you click into it, you get additional material because you can see that there's archive material inside.
And as you get inside it, if it scroll down, you'll see various of the cameos and special sections in Silicon Satan, which are covered.
And they're very interesting.
I really, and new animations are coming onto these.
If you kind of click one of the animations, you can see how they're really fascinating.
And there's quite a lot of material in here.
So I think you're going to get deeply into it.
I want to, what we've been doing in these podcasts is to kind of dissecting the story and analyzing it, because it's a kind of a dark story of someone who is inducted into the rituals of satanic activity that define the top of Silicon Valley.
Now, Craig, you're not saying everybody in Silicon Valley is a Satanist, correct?
Correct.
And again, there's a distinction between the Luciferians and the Satanists.
The Luciferians don't call themselves Satanists.
They don't consider it satanic ritual what they're doing.
They consider it, well, their religion.
But I just wanted to make that distinction that they don't see themselves as that.
In other words, they don't consider it evil.
They consider they are following what the ruler of this space.
I mean, how do they conceptualize it?
Yeah, well, they consider their God, Lucifer, to be the true God, the good God, the good guy, the guy that's out to save humanity.
And that our God is the bad God.
He's the one who tricked Adam and Eve in the garden.
And Lucifer is going to get us back there.
That's the basic of their belief.
And they find the Satanists useful because they can blame everything on the Satanists.
Anytime anything goes bad, they just blame the Satanists.
But yet the rituals are, I mean, their rituals are quite evil in terms of pedophilia, the sexual rituals they go through.
Yeah.
Yeah, they are.
To us, they're very evil.
To them, they're not.
To them, they're fun.
You have group sex and drugs and orgies and killing people on stage in a dramatic way to heighten everybody's sexual intensity.
And that's just the buildup.
Right.
So the goal of these snuff orgies and stuff isn't sexual gratification.
There's something going on.
There's a purpose to it.
There's a spiritual purpose to it.
And Aleister Crowley is the one who kind of opened up all this sex magic, sex power.
So they use that to get to whatever they're trying to get to.
So the buildup is, I mean, all this stuff that we hear about, all the satanic stuff that we hear about, that's just the buildup to what they ultimately want to do.
And what do they ultimately want to do?
Well, it depends.
A lot of times they're doing knowledge transfers or they're gaining knowledge somehow.
I never really got high enough to where I was going to those rituals.
I would have had to stuck it out a lot longer and done a lot worse things than I'd already done.
But I knew enough about what was going on.
I knew how they were, or they'd put spells on people.
They'd put spells on groups of people.
They would, you know, whatever it is they wanted to do.
Everything is very ritual oriented, very ritual-centric.
Everything has to be, and that's, and that's part of their religion.
And it's sort of a copy of what, you know, of the truth.
You know, we, we, you know, our religion, our worship is very important.
And we, we do certain rituals as well.
Well, they just, they do rituals.
They have their rituals, but they do them a lot more.
And they're, they're, they're on the other side, so to speak.
Well, and they're dark rituals.
I mean, you get, and one of the aspects that Craig is doing is also interpreting some of the current events in terms of the satanic nature or the Luciferian nature of what's going on.
You know, this one that impressed me the most is this red scarfing.
And so, you know, when you hear someone has committed suicide in Hollywood, it may not actually be a suicide.
And then would they want to explain that?
Especially if they hang themselves on a doorknob with a red scarf.
That's why it's called the red scarf suicide.
That used to be, I don't see it that much anymore, but that used to be a message.
We just off this guy and be careful.
This is what happens.
In fact, I just put out an article about Gene Hapman.
It kind of did the same thing, the humiliation thing to him.
I suspect, I don't know, I wasn't following him, but I suspect he was going rogue.
You know, these, you know, old, old guys go, you know, the conscience starts to bother them after a while, and they want to spill the beans.
They want to come out and get it off their chest and go die peaceful.
And I think he was about to do that.
And not only did they kill him, but they made him, they stole his legacy.
Now we all are going to remember Gene Hackman as some old guy who died in rat-infested squalor.
And that's a message, just like the Red Scarf suicides, the Red Scarf murders.
That's a message to everybody else.
Do all that he did.
We'll do this to you too.
Yeah, there's no out of this.
You don't get out of this.
Once you're into it, what you sign is your life away to this Luciferian dedication.
And there's no escape from it without ruin.
Exactly.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
And see, in the article, I kind of point out that the old actors, when the Luciferians first infiltrated Hollywood, the old actors, the old movie stars, you know, rose to fame and fortune and position, and they became hard to handle.
They were going rogue.
So that's why you see this new breed of actors in Hollywood now that are a lot easier to control.
They're very easy to control, as a matter of fact.
So, but the Gene Hackman generation, he was 95 years old.
And I found a picture of him at 95, and he looked pretty good for 95, but the picture that they're putting out makes him look old and decrepit and demented.
And they're doing that on purpose.
Now, I'm not, I don't really know Gene Hackman.
I mean, I'm a fan, I guess.
But you get to the point, I got to the point where I've seen this stuff for so long now that it's really easy for me to spot now.
And it's hard to explain, but it's very easy to spot.
So if you are not, you can live a normal life and work in Silicon Valley and never be part Luciferians.
But if you want to rise to the top, if you want to hit the big time, you're going to have to join the cult.
Right.
And if you've noticed, especially these days, the Luciferians, some people call them the Illuminati, some people call them the Jews.
It's all the same group.
They have infiltrated every institution on the planet.
So no matter what, where you are, if you want to get to the top, you have to go through the rituals at this point.
I'm pretty much convinced.
If you want to get top of anything, I even see it.
I'm even starting to see it in this podcasting world.
There's a lot of money in it now.
And when the money comes, the Luciferians show up.
Yep.
Okay, I want to go into some of the aspects of the novel because it's a great story.
The story involves Raj.
And Raj is an alter ego for Craig fictionalized, who grows up on a ranch house farm in California.
And it begins in California with him, with Raj as a young boy.
About how old?
Is he teenage years?
No, he's preteen when the story starts.
Preteen.
I think around 11, 10 or 11 when the story begins.
And one of the aspects of the story is the breakup of the family.
And here you're seeing some of the animations that Craig has done.
Chris is showing them on the screen.
And these animations are quite good.
So when you read internally into our site, into the various segments and chapters and vignettes that we've got from Craig's writing, he's now starting to illustrate them.
So you can see the visualization of what he's writing about, which is quite interesting.
And I think this brings it all to life in another dimension.
And the story that I want to focus on today.
By the way, by the way, real quickly, writing the story was hard because it brings doing the visuals is even harder because I'm reseeing a lot of this.
I just want to point that out.
And reimagining it.
I mean, that's why it took you so long to do it.
It's not easy to bring back to the surface all that you went through.
I mean, this stuff is.
I'm sure a lot of it you prefer to forget about.
And that was not easy to do either.
No.
And I did an interview this morning and it occurred to me while I was doing an interview that people are waking up.
People are, you know, I couldn't have talked about this at all 10 years ago like this.
And people are now talking about it.
But at the same time, people still have a long ways.
There's still a lot I haven't shared.
There's still a lot going on that I've just, you know, I'm waiting for everybody to wake up a little bit more and then we'll go a little bit deeper.
But it's all.
Yeah, your second novel, I'm sure, will go another level deeper.
Yeah.
And again, this, I think it's going to be a series of articles.
And okay, what I want to concentrate today on is the story of Raj and really the breakup of the families with divorce, including Raj.
When the story begins, Raj's family has broken up.
Is that correct, Craig?
Correct, yeah.
So he's living with his stepdad on his grandfather's horse ranch.
Pretty much the whole family is there.
It's a large enough ranch that everybody's there.
It's three generations of people, a family there.
But his family is broken up, yes.
His dad has been gone.
He doesn't even know him.
So his stepdad is Meryl.
Can you describe Meryl?
Give us some idea of the character.
Merrill was a good guy, good intentions.
He took on this woman who had kids.
And it was during the 60s and 70s when divorce was still pretty new.
Divorce was something that you were embarrassed of, especially if you're a family.
But out where I was raised on the ranch, there was a lot of ranches up there, a lot of cattle ranches and a lot of Orchards and orange orchards, huge operations.
And those families broke up too.
The same thing.
So these, you know, the granddaddies start these operations, these enterprises, and two generations later, the kids are so messed up.
You know, my parents are so messed up that they lose the whole thing.
And it happened everywhere up there.
That, you know, the divorce just kind of ruined everything.
And I think it's, well, I know it's by design.
You know, Satan hates the nuclear family.
Luciferians hate the nuclear family.
They don't want men and women together procreating children and raising them in a moral education.
Yeah, so it started about 40 years ago and they're still doing it today.
Look how far they've come.
Yeah, I mean, so you grow up in single mother homes and then you go out on your own and the single mothers are not that stable because they've now got boyfriends and it's a mess.
Right.
But but okay, so Meryl was the positive stepdad.
What happened to Meryl in the story?
In the story, there's just a fight for control over the ranch.
Who's going to control?
Who's going to take over?
So Raj's grandfather, Pops, has promised it to Raj without telling his uncle or his stepdad.
And when, you know, when push comes to shove, Merle just can't take it.
Merle starts an affair.
Everybody's screwing everybody out there.
Again, it's a separate sexual revolution.
So he gets caught messing around with someone, even who's messing around with someone else.
And that's sort of the proverbial straw that sent him out of there.
He couldn't take it anymore.
So he bailed.
How did he bail?
He just packed up his truck and left.
He just left.
One day he was gone.
Yeah, one day he was gone.
Well, a lot had been happening.
A lot was happening at that time.
The ranch was falling apart.
It was clear that he wasn't going to take over.
Most of the ranch had been lost through some shady dealings on my uncle's side or Roger's uncle's side.
And so, I mean, the writing was on the wall.
It was time for him to go.
And he wasn't really getting along with anybody anyway.
He was kind of a goof.
He tried really hard, but he was kind of dumb, actually.
He was a football jock kind of guy.
So Claire, the mother in the story, she kind of went from her childhood sweetheart to Merle without really thinking because she didn't want to be divorced.
She didn't want to be a single mom.
Right.
And, you know, the relationships, Clara and Meryl and the relationships in the family are just kind of dysfunctional.
Nobody seems to really connect.
And they're all kind of at odds with each other.
And there's a sexual undertone to the whole thing.
Then Pop comes along.
Who is Pop?
Pops is a grandfather who started the whole ranch.
So Popson and Raj have a really good relationship.
Pops backstory is he came from Texas and came to California to ride the real estate boom.
And he was very successful at it.
So he built his dream ranch and his children lost it for him.
So he ended up back in Texas living in a neighborhood house somewhere.
Right.
And the different characters that come in and out of it.
There's Conrad.
Who is Conrad?
So Conrad is actually Sloane's father.
Right.
And Zona's the girlfriend of Raj and both preteens even having sex.
Right.
So when Raj and Sloane ultimately end up getting married, at the same time, Clara and Conrad are getting married.
So it's like he's marrying his stepsister.
Right.
He's marrying his stepsister.
Right.
And that's pretty messed up.
But it happens.
It happens.
It probably added to the kind of the evil excitement of it.
I mean, the kind of out of the ordinary excitement of it.
This is the edgy.
Yeah.
Well, from Raj's perspective growing up, his peculiar perspective, the destruction of the family was considered a good thing.
It's like, oh, good, we're free now.
We can go do whatever we want.
We're young people.
We're free of all this, this, you know, the generation of gap.
So it wasn't like everybody was sad about the families breaking up, even though it was going on all over the place around this.
We didn't seem to care too.
I mean, we weren't too worried about it, unfortunately.
Too bad we weren't, because look where we are today.
Right.
But again, the sexual activity between Sloan and Raj, which is beginning at this time, you know, the other characters know about.
I mean, Clara knows about it and Conrad knows about it.
And they're all kind of accepting it.
It's like it's normal.
It's normal and they see it as exceptional.
It's like, oh, good.
Look, I'm proud of you kids.
You're having sex already.
Yeah, yeah.
You're on your way to becoming adults and living your own life.
And go ahead, go do it.
We got stuff to do over here.
You know, we're busy.
Right, we're busy.
Right.
Go find something to do.
So we did.
Well, it seems like all through the story, Raj is looking for a real father.
Yeah.
And he keeps looking at these bouncing around trying to find another one.
And the people he's finding are dysfunctional.
They're not really appropriate or right.
So, I mean, he comes into Louis.
Who's Louie?
Louie's the hippie cowboy out there.
He was the head wrangler.
You know, your consummate hippie cowboy.
And he and Rog had a pretty good relationship for a long time.
But all these men that came in and out of Roger's lot, they either betrayed him or they bailed on him.
And so by the time he reached Silicon Valley, he sort of has an attitude about the world that, you know, I'm in this alone.
I'm by myself.
And I got to figure this out.
There's nobody I can go to.
I can't trust anybody.
But then when he meets, you know, these bigwigs in Silicon Valley, it's like, this is a whole new class of men.
I'm going to hook up with these guys.
This is great.
Yeah, well, and again, it's a the sex undertone to all of this is always there.
And, you know, the it's just kind of normal and it's expected kind of almost.
It's kind of the undertone of the whole story.
I mean, you know, I, and yet it's completely, it's not so much the forbidden aspect of it, but the fact that this, it's, you know, like you deal with Roger and Sloan having sex as preteens, well, it has nothing to do with procreation.
It has nothing to do with really understanding what sex is deeply about, but it is yet enticing.
Well, when I started writing this book, I didn't really, I, you know, I was like, well, how did these two people meet?
Just two people, it's like sex.
Well, how did this happen?
I'll start with sex.
And I realized everything did, everything kind of started with, I really didn't realize until I started writing the book how, how, you know, looking back, everybody was having sex all the time.
Everybody was, everybody, there was orgies and just casual sex and even sex that you're kind of bored with.
And that wasn't the worst thing, though.
To me, that was just sort of a side problem.
The bigger problems were the rituals and trying to get out of that.
But yeah, it begins with sex.
They're grooming these kids not just to be sexual, but to be sort of anti-everything.
That's good.
You're taught not to explore sexually, but then when you're encouraged to, that means, oh, I can explore the other taboos as well.
Because if I can get away with this one, I'm talking as a young kid, as a young man.
If I can get away with this, if this is okay and good and fun and profitable, well, I'll do this too.
I'll do the next thing.
And pretty soon you've got a whole big long line of things that you've done.
And it's like, well, this is a lifestyle now.
I'm on my way to something and it's fun.
Yeah, and I mean, the scenes, you know, I'm just reading it, you know, a scene where the two of them are essentially pulling their pants down and exposing themselves to each other, Rod and Sloane, and just kind of laughing about it.
It's, you know, and Sloan basically says that, you know, that was fun.
And then she says, well, she doesn't want to quit yet.
So she says, let's go swimming.
Well, we don't have swimsuits.
We go naked, like we're both taking a bath.
And so, again, it becomes so much of a one thing leads to another.
It seems innocent.
But yet when you realize what's going on, it's again, the breakup of the family, the sexualization of children, which the pedophilia aspect of it, which a lot of Luciferians have, you know, there's so much of the pedophilia that goes hand in hand with the Luciferian nature of this,
you know, the Hollywood glitterati or Silicon Valley or New York Upper Society or any of these cult, dark cult cultists have to do with sexualization of children.
And that's, and why is that, do you think?
Well, there's a long history of why the Luciferians like incest, pedophilia, and the androgyne.
It's really hard to explain just kind of sitting here, but it's more to it than just a sex thing.
I was talking to these guys earlier today, and I was remembering, you know, when you go into a, when I went into that room with those guys, those old men, kind of your whole world changes instantly because you realize you're in a room with something that's connected, something that's very, very ancient and very, very powerful and very, very scary.
And even if nothing happened, when you walk out of that room, your worldview is different.
The analogy I was using is like if you had a Bigfoot encounter, not just one where you think you saw one, but where there's these Sasquatches in front of you and they're trying to decide what to do with you and you can smell them.
And you walk away from that experience, your worldview is going to change.
You can't tell anybody because nobody's going to believe you.
And when you hear other people talking about, well, do Luciferians really, do Sasquatch really exist?
It's going to be aggravating because you know that they do.
And there's no way to tell them except maybe they're going to have their own encounter one day.
Well, this is the, you're talking about the initiation of Raj into the cult, which is the elders, these old men, these older men who assemble.
Yeah.
And it ends up in sodomizing Raj.
Yeah.
What I was trying to get at, I guess, was the whole, how deep the power, how much depth there is to all this.
When you're on the outside looking in, it's really hard to imagine what goes on.
But I have had experiences where I've just, I don't know why I felt that way, but you can really feel something is with you.
Something is in the room.
You can feel the goosebumps.
It's weird.
You're invoking powers that are dark powers.
Yeah, and they're here.
And they're there.
Yeah.
And so the different, so it goes from Meryl, who's pretty basically okay in terms of taking care of Raj to others like Easy and Conrad.
Easy was one of those take this kid under my wing kind of guys, you know, a good guy, but with bad habits.
And then you end up with Lee Nelson.
Who's Lee Nelson?
Lee Nelson is kind of the main antagonist.
He's the one that sort of brings Raj all the way in to the point of no return, really.
He kind of hooks up with him right away.
And the reason why is because Raj is a brilliant computer scientist and he does some stuff that impresses Lee to the point that he wants to own him.
And that's kind of the way it works.
He saw something in this kid and he wants it and he gets what he wants.
Right.
I mean, it's the whole thing with Lee is the real power.
I mean, the real dark power that enters into it and explains to and gets Raj deeper, deeper into the practices.
And there's one of the paragraphs here that you're looking, you have an encounter with Lee and there's this photo that he's looking at.
And Lee's own family by this Mr. Desmond had been selected for the blood ritual sacrifice.
Now, what's the blood ritual sacrifice?
Well, there's a lot of different ones.
The blood rituals are the most important.
Those are the ones that you get the most power from.
And it involves sacrifice.
And the more innocent the victim, the more power you get.
That's why they choose children and infants.
Yeah, so then there's the gravy rituals.
Everybody has to do the gravy rituals.
It's just this, everybody in Hollywood, everybody in Motown, everybody has done them.
They say they haven't.
I was listening to Terrence Howard the other day.
Sort of trying to backpedal his way out of that.
He's like, oh, I didn't really do it.
Well, you couldn't.
There's no way you could have got where you are if you didn't.
And then there's the humiliation rituals, which is kind of constant.
And it's just a way of controlling people is to put them through these humiliation.
You see that in Hollywood a lot.
Every time a macho actor wears a dress, that's a humiliation ritual.
Every time they make him take a role that makes them look stupid.
I mean, if I was a Hollywood actor, I would only take certain roles because I would want to foster a certain look.
But they make them do whatever they want them to do.
And a lot of it's humiliating.
And it's just a show.
They didn't used to do that.
I mean, they kind of did it a little bit back in the old days, but they do it to everybody now.
They have to control these people.
And so it's control is a lot of it.
And it's all extortion.
It's just, it's all blackmail.
Yeah, once you engage in this behavior, now you're subject to blackmail.
Right.
And that's the problem they had with me is because I didn't care.
There was nobody they could blackmail me to.
They cared, well, who are they going to tell?
Nobody cared.
And the ones that did care were either dead or missing.
So it made, so I mean, I'm talking about me in particular.
So it made it easy, not easy, but it made it possible for me, more possible for me to get out of there because I wasn't afraid.
I mean, I'm talking about it right now, right?
So you can't blackmail me with it.
Right.
Right.
And one of the scenes, who's Malcolm?
Go ahead, Malcolm.
Malcolm sort of represents their hitman, their typical hitman.
And I knew a couple of Malcolm.
The one in particular, it's funny, he looked a lot like that FBI guy, Peter Strozik, the creepy FBI guy.
Yeah, Peter.
Yeah, Peter.
Yeah, they had the same look, you know, that same creepy.
Demonic, creepy demonic.
Yeah, I mean, you know that something's controlling them.
I don't mean to talk about him, but no, I mean, it's just that it certainly he looked bizarre somehow or other.
Yeah.
So I ran it a lot.
So yeah, I was surprised that they put him out there because that bizarre look, I've seen it a lot.
And you don't really see it.
It's one of those hidden guys.
They don't come out too often.
And when they do come out, something serious is happening.
So that would be the guy that would facilitate the Red Scarf murder or the Red Scarf suit.
In fact, who is Annie in this story?
I don't remember.
I'd rather rename him.
They murdered Anne in her bedroom.
Lee and Malcolm with his dark sunglasses and black leather gloves.
That was probably the Lee Nelson's ex-wife or previous wife.
Yes.
She finds him waiting when she gets out of her morning shower while Malcolm strangles Anne with one of her own scarf face down, one of her own scarves face down on the bed.
He pokes her in a vein behind the knee with a large needle and holds the silk handkerchief against the wound until Anne is dead.
Right.
So the handkerchiefs with the death blood, that's the trophy.
That's a trophy.
That's a collect.
Yeah.
So they put that in a plastic sandwich baggie.
And Malcolm hangs Anne's body by the neck with a scarf over the knob of the bathroom door, making it look like a suicide.
They tosses the fake suicide letter next to her body, cuts a lock of her hair and stuffs it into a cigar tube, souvenir, he says, in a sinister voice.
This doesn't look right naked like that.
Put some clothes on this thing and meet me in the car.
Malcolm instructs Lee.
He goes to the bathroom, returns with Annie's underwear, bra, and bathrobe.
He dresses her in a hurry without emotion, stares at her lifeless body, then wipes his hands on his trousers and leaves.
So it's all kind of emotionless, but yet very sinister.
But by the time someone like Lee has reached that point, he doesn't see everybody else as people anymore.
They really believe that they have evolved in their own lifetime into something grander, something godlike by going through all these rituals.
Because, again, when you're in these places, and I didn't get that deep into it.
I got deep enough to where it was pretty scary.
It's affected my entire life.
But when you start doing this routinely and you're seeking it out, I mean, can you imagine what that does to a person, what that does to a person's own self-image?
They really believe that they have real power in a way they do.
And the next scene, Lee is eating sea bass and bloody steak.
And this yacht broker comes, and he signs a check for $1,500,000 and hands it to Frazier, who's overwhelmed by having such a large check in his possession.
He's a yacht broker all his life.
He's been one.
And rarely does anybody pay cash.
And so, again, it's the evil nature.
So much money, so much success.
And it's right on top of him having killed his aunt, who I think was his wife.
Yeah, it was his wife.
And done again in one of the Red Scarf killings.
Right.
So that would be considered a blood ritual.
So, you know, blood rituals can be that, or it could be a group of people sacrificing, you know, something, a human, usually, you know, usually an infant.
You know, the movie Mother, I think I sent you the clip where they actually show that ritual.
And I've had, you know, where they're sacrificing a baby.
I think it was Elizabeth Hurley or something was the star.
Yes.
But other people have seen that.
And I've had people come to me and say, well, that's just artistic representation of the Catholic Eucharist.
You know, the baby represents Jesus.
Okay, fine.
You believe that.
And their claim is that's where I got it.
I was like, no, I was talking about this years before that movie came out.
You know, a lot of people were.
I was barely talking about it, but there was people talking about it years.
You and I were talking about it before.
We were talking about, yes, we were talking about it years before.
But the whole undertone of this, and it gets deeper and deeper into the book, you begin to understand more deeply the blood rituals, the killing of babies, the producing of the fear in babies, which then they take this drug out of the baby's blood.
What is the drug?
Well, they create something called adrenochrome.
I knew it as chrome.
I didn't know what it was back then.
And that's the truth.
I didn't know what it was.
I think I had it once.
But we call it getting chromed.
Very powerful.
Yeah.
And so the victims that they use in the blood rituals aren't the ones that they drain to get the adrenochrome.
That's a whole different manufacturing center.
That's where, you know, like Epstein's baby farm.
That's what those are for.
For adrenochrome.
Yeah.
That's where they, that's...
But it involves frightening the child in order to get this, these, I guess, hormones into the bloodstream, which they then mine.
Yeah.
The whole thing is very scientific, very, very biological.
They have it down to a science.
That's why they choose children, too, is because children can't control their fear responses as well as adults.
And they overload very quickly.
Especially when they start crying, you know, and they get, they get in that weird sort of hyperventilating mode.
That's kind of what they're, they're, they're, they're striving for.
Adults don't really do that anymore, but children do.
Once they get into that hyperventilating mode, then they reach a point that they're ready for harvest.
I really hate talking like this, but it's a fact of life.
Well, I mean, again, we're, we're talking about these things, not to sensationalize them, but because it's important for everybody to understand what goes on.
It is.
And people are, people are, like I said, people are, I can see it.
People are catching.
I never would have, never thought I would talk about, I never thought I would be doing this right now.
I mean, I'm old enough now that it doesn't scare me.
What are they going to do?
But there's enough people talking about it now that, that something's going to happen one way or another.
Something soon is going to happen.
Well, I think the, just the writing of the book and creating of this part of the website of Corsi Nation is shocking a lot of people.
But what happens with this book is you read it.
At first, it seems like it's hard to keep going.
And then it gets addictive.
I mean, you write, read it right to the end.
And people get to be fascinated with it in terms of, you know, it's deeper and deeper, the darker and darker it gets.
And then, then there's an attempt by Raj to pull out of it, which is equally difficult.
Because you don't leave this, you don't leave this cult easily.
You lose everything.
And in the process of losing everything, you're abandoned and left hopeless.
No money.
No connections.
Nobody responding to your phone calls.
And especially for someone like Raj, who doesn't really, there's no, you know, there's no, there's nobody really to go to at that point.
There's, there's, there's no, there's no network.
There's no family.
There's no, there's nothing left.
It's, it's, that makes it even harder.
It makes it harder, but it also makes it a lot easier.
It's easier to hide.
But it makes it really hard to go, you know, going out on your, on your own, completely on your own like that is difficult.
Well, the, the summoning up of this dark power and the living of this Luciferian hatred and the, what it leads to in terms of the sexual rituals or the blood rituals or the suicides or all of these things are in a sense demonic.
Because they're, they're counter life, they're, they're hate life.
They're filled with hate.
They're destructive.
Right.
And they're not, there's nothing positive about any of this.
The pleasure is taken in someone else's pain or embarrassment or abuse or torture or murder.
And, and the pleasure derived from that is the heightened experience, the heightened appreciation of a higher level in which this kind of behavior is.
Behavior is an expression of power, dark power.
the worshiping of that dark power you know you know As you know, I was very apprehensive about writing this book because I thought people would either consider me some kind of monster or a liar.
But I'm finding that people really aren't doing either.
They're actually bona fidely interested, not in a morbid way, but in a, you know, I need to know more about this because I'm seeing it too.
We're starting to see it too.
I want to know more.
Well, the more interviews we do, the more accessible we make it to people, the more we start talking about it, the more I think people are going to want to read it and want to know more in depth what it's all about.
And it took you a long time to do the first one and to learn how to write and to learn how to tell a story and to construct the characters and make the narrative flow.
But I think you've come a long way in that ability.
That's a result of hooking up with you, which to me is a God thing.
I couldn't have written this book if I hadn't ran into you.
But the fact that it's written is your experience, what you went through and that you got out of it allows you now to expose this world for what it is.
And so things that people experience and watch on television and see, you know, happening in Hollywood or happening in New York City or happening in any of the glitterati, you know, which look bizarre, fits into this dark power logic,
which is fundamentally destroying other people, destroying their dignity, destroying their sexuality, destroying their families, destroying their image of themselves, demeaning, rituals, which are very, very base.
Everything is exact opposite of the love of God.
Exactly.
It has nothing to do with nurturing God, love, it's all negative destruction.
And the power is all negative destruction.
So it's the best comprehension, I think, through the story that you can get of what evil is really like.
And it's kind of banal.
I mean, it's kind of almost pathetic.
It's so bizarre and evil that you'd say, how could anyone possibly indulge in this, except that it has the dominance over another?
It has the characteristic of power and serving evil.
And as such, it becomes seductive.
You agree?
I do, especially when you're rewarded so greatly.
Yeah.
And these are the ones who succeed.
Everything they do touches to go.
Everything they touch comes to gold.
So as you're going down that path, you can see the people at the other end.
And these are the people that are the richest people on the planet.
Yeah.
And that's where you're heading.
It's amazing that you're even on that path and you want to get there.
You want to be one of those.
I want to have seven mansions all over the world.
Big bunker.
Well, I'm going to recommend that everybody get the and read the Silicon Satan and get into understanding what we're really seeing in this Luciferian elite.
And, you know, the power, the prestige, the privilege that these people are awarded comes from these dark arts of rituals that are almost so frightening, they're hard to read the first time.
After you've read it a bit and after you've gotten into it, you become kind of desensitized to it.
And even then it's frightening because you begin to find yourself understanding and accepting this as a world that's viable, that exists, that it's hidden and dark.
And the seductive power of that is great.
And so you have to make a decision, which path are you going to go down?
And I think we're seeing increasingly more people are understanding and waking up to say they reject this path.
It's not just keeping people off the path.
It's getting rid of the people.
It's getting rid of the path.
You got to get rid of the path.
I mean, first of all, people don't need to be that rich.
They don't need to be that wealthy.
I saw a study where you divide all the wealth in the world.
Everybody gets $15,000 per lifetime.
So why do these people have so much?
They're never going to spend it.
It's just power and position and self-glorification.
exactly yeah so we gotta we got i mean the the solution is to get rid of He hid his wealth.
And everybody did.
All the men did back then.
Wealth is something you just kind of kept quiet.
You didn't brag about it.
Now you brag, no, you brag about it.
Greed is considered a good thing.
All right.
Well, Craig, thanks for coming back.
And we'll do more of this.
We'll get deeper into the story.
We'll read more of it.
We'll get and watch some of your, we'll get into what's on the website and look at some of these videos.
There's quite a bit more.
I want to make this a regular feature of the show.
I want to build you as an author, get people to pay attention to the works and get into it because I think it's only accessible through the fictionalization of it, which makes it readable and understandable in terms of the psychology.
But it's still horrific.
Well, thanks for having me, again.
Okay.
Well, it's great pleasure to have you here in the sense it's never easy.
It's never really fun.
But the pleasure in it is I want to shed light on this.
And the pleasure is really in the uncovering and the illuminating this darkness because it's ultimately weak.
It's ultimately self-destructive.
It's ultimately a lie.
And once people understand that, It loses its attractiveness.
But again, it's going to be an exploration into darkness in order to emerge back into the light.
Okay, as Dr. Trone Coursey, and we've been talking with Craig Lund, who's the author of Silicon Satan.
We have a section of the website at CourseyNation.com dedicated to Craig's continuing writing.
You get to see the new novel in progress and sections being published on CourseyNation.com with animations.
And it's a fascinating topic.
And I think we're going to, ultimately, I see this could be a series in Netflix or a series somewhere or other because this is going to have to be dramatized.
It's going to have to be shown to people in a way that it becomes mass market property and shown for the fact that it is evil and has got to be resisted.
Okay, Dr. Joan Corsi, thank you for joining us.
And God always wins.
God will win here too.
And I think in the spirit of 2 Chronicles 7, 14, we have to ask God to forgive us for letting it get to this evil point.
And God will hear our prayer and heal our land.
Any final thoughts, Craig, today?
Nope.
Nope.
I'm good.
Thanks.
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