June 9, 2025 - The Truth Central - Dr. Jerome Corsi
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Why Who Develops CopePort E Will Dominate Maritime Trade in the Western Hemisphere
While the tariffs and trade war negotiations grab the economic headlines, beneath the surface lies an issue of higher magnitude: the potential boon a yet-undeveloped port at a strategic location in Chile could bring to the nation who procures and sets up a trade hub on the property known as CopiaPort E. Todd Callender, one of the interest-holders, discusses CopiaPort E, its location and how the nation which bids for and controls the port has the potential to dominate international maritime trade in the Western Hemisphere. China is looking to buy and extend its influence on this side of the globe -- as the port has access to an important highway system, inroads to major South American cities and an improving transport infrastructure. As the US and CCP fight for influence in resource-rich and developing nations, Callender and Dr. Jerome Corsi reveal how important it is for the U.S. to take on CopiaPort E to keep the Chinese Communist Party from doing so on Corsi Nation.Visit The Corsi Nation website: https://www.corsination.comIf you like what we are doing, please support our Sponsors:Get RX Meds Now: https://www.getrxmedsnow.comMyVitalC https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America: https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpGet Dr. Corsi's new book, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear, here: https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-President-John-Kennedy-Headshots/dp/B0CXLN1PX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20W8UDU55IGJJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ymVX8y9V--_ztRoswluApKEN-WlqxoqrowcQP34CE3HdXRudvQJnTLmYKMMfv0gMYwaTTk_Ne3ssid8YroEAFg.e8i1TLonh9QRzDTIJSmDqJHrmMTVKBhCL7iTARroSzQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=jerome+r.+corsi+%2B+jfk&qid=1710126183&sprefix=%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1Join Dr. Jerome Corsi on Substack: https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/Visit The Truth Central website: https://www.thetruthcentral.comGet your FREE copy of Dr. Corsi's new book with Swiss America CEO Dean Heskin, How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush by calling: 800-519-6268Follow Dr. Jerome Corsi on X: @corsijerome1Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/corsi-nation--5810661/support.
This is Dr. Jerome Corsi, and we've got a special guest today.
We've got Todd Callender back with us.
Todd has been my co-author.
We've been good friends for a long time now, and we are working together on this port in Chile.
And we're going to take this broadcast and talk about the Chris has got some things he's lined up.
As we go forward on it, we can talk about it.
But, Todd, welcome back.
Such a pleasure.
Thanks for having me, Jerry.
You know what?
Thanks for being my co-author and pal.
Well, you know, we're just getting started with things we can do.
Yeah, that's right.
We're just getting started.
And we're going to win some battles here that nobody expected we're going to win.
And the one we're going to talk about today is one we're going to win that nobody expected we would ever win.
Nobody expected we would even fight.
Against the odds, brother.
That's the only battle worth fighting.
That's right.
You've got to feel down and out and losing, otherwise the battle's not worth paying attention to.
We'll win the others by themselves.
Okay, so this Copia Port E, and Chris, if you could show maybe some of the geography or one of the slides, we can get up.
There's even a Copia Port.
There we go.
Copia, C-O-P-I-A, port dash E. Echo.
It's an echo port.
It's an ecologically sound port.
Boy, is it.
Holy smokes.
And it is in Chile, which is in the south of South America, bordering Argentina on the Pacific.
Okay, and this port is a deepwater port, and Todd is CEO of the Cotswold Group, that's C-O-T-S-W-O-L-D, in Nassau in the Bahamas.
And Todd is with us today, and Todd, you own the rights to this port, is that correct?
Our group does, yes.
That's exactly right.
We own, all said and done, it's 220,000 hectares, otherwise known as 850 square miles of real estate.
The area, the estate is known as Hacienda Castilla, and it includes an eight-kilometer-long peninsula that sticks out into the Pacific Ocean.
It's a geological anomaly because it's got a deep-water leaside, and it acts as a natural breakwater to the prevailing It's highly unusual.
There is no other port project or existing port like it for the features that it enjoys, including two highway passes going directly to Argentina.
With a very low grade, it makes it easy for trucks and trains to go over directly to the food supply of Asia that sits in the Cordoba district of Argentina.
Now, you've been trying to get the federal government, the government of the United States interested in this for some time, going back to the Biden administration.
No, before that.
Even before that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Back to the first Trump term.
That's correct.
Back to the first Trump term.
That's exactly right.
And there's a lot of reasons for that, including the fact that I've had many conversations with people in the U.S. Navy who spent a lot of time in that region for reasons I don't fully understand.
Antarctica is a huge national security interest for our DOD, and they're patrolling those waters down there.
Looking for some place that might be usable for them to refuel, resupply, things of that nature in South America.
And so we've had a lot of discussions about it with people in the Trump administration prior and to some extent now.
And at the same time, other nations recognize its value as well.
So it's not an unknown quantity.
That property and that peninsula were actually early identified by the Chinese way back at the start of their Belt Road Initiative.
As I understand it, from people in the World Bank, that our peninsula was actually designated as their landing zone in South America.
Of course, they've performed on that promise in many respects.
Okay, now for China, and so China actually has a memorandum of understanding to buy this port from you.
Is that right?
They have.
They have engaged with us.
They have already done site visits and things of that nature from long before.
As I mentioned, this is something that's been in their planning, in discussions with the prior owners of the property prior to our acquisition.
So we're a very known quantity for them.
I think they've already done all their engineering and things of that nature.
We haven't heard from them.
Recently, but we're expecting to because we're very near the end of our approval process after having studied and deposited 20,000 pages of exhibits and due diligence on every aspect you can imagine relating to this property and what effect,
environmentally and otherwise, it may have on the region of Atacama Region 3. Different maps and different views here of where the port is.
Now the point I want to make is that our government has been incredibly neglectful of South America historically.
Most Americans couldn't name where the countries are in South America.
Very few Americans have ever been to Mexico, Central America, or South America, except maybe to an Acapulco resort or something of that nature.
And they don't really have any deep understanding of South America or Central America.
I don't even know the distinction between the two.
And you don't understand that in Spanish, the United States is norteamericano, which is just North America.
And they're America del Sur and America Central.
So we're just one of the Americas to the people who live in South America.
And we're all Americans in the sense that You know, there isn't the unique significance of the United States, except, of course, for the economy, the size, the strength of the United States.
But in terms of geographically, the South Americans consider that their Americans and indigenous Americans, and go back centuries, were the newcomers.
Now, the point is also that I think our government has been intentionally favoring China taking over the world.
I think China's bought most of our politicians.
I think, you know, I've had suspicions for a long time that certainly when you look at the Bidens and all the money China gave the Bidens, all the money, Mitch McConnell married to a Chinese woman who's very wealthy over in China.
Governors.
Governors.
Eric Swalwell, Chinese wife.
The Chinese have been very adept at their psychological warfare effort.
Influence effort, too.
Influence effort.
It doesn't cost very much to buy an American politician.
No, it doesn't.
It's remarkable.
It's like $10,000 for a senator.
They'll do your bidding.
It's mind-boggling.
Yeah, and we've got the best Congress money can buy.
I mean, how many billionaires and billionaires have come out of Congress?
I mean, Pocahontas is worth something like $68 million.
Yeah, they go in with nothing.
They come out with everything.
How does that one work?
Oh, and they exempt themselves from insider trading laws.
Right.
Well, in fact, they've got all kinds of insider trader information, simply from the regulatory hearings and all the other things they do with Congress.
With business leaders.
And the business leaders are there all the time hiring K Street lobbyists and getting their interests represented.
And money flows.
And if it doesn't flow directly as money, it goes through baseball tickets and meals and trips and all kinds of other things.
You know, having said that, Jerry, I think people should understand for U.S. citizens to do those very same kinds of things is a crime.
The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act applies to me, but it doesn't seem to apply to them.
So I can't go and spend money on politicians abroad.
I can't go bribe people.
I can't even do them any favors.
But for Congress, that seemingly is a different story.
You know, where Congress, it's bribery, you know, starts here.
Yeah.
And in fact, I think a lot of people run for Congress on the idea they're going to get rich from it.
As Harry Truman said, the only way you can get rich in politics is if you're a crook.
He's right.
So we're saying we basically have a corrupt government.
Yes.
And China's bought it.
Yes.
Okay, now China, and so therefore, you know, President Trump comes along and he's saying, wait a minute, and the lies that have been told by the CIA, free trade.
It's going to be free trade.
We're not going to have any trade barriers.
Well, it's complete nonsense because Europe puts all kinds of value-added taxes on anything we bring into Europe.
That's right.
Import duties, all kinds of import duties, all kinds of charges for us to get our goods in there.
That's right.
Okay, where their goods are made to undermine the U.S. market.
Yes.
And so, therefore, in China, it's okay to have slave labor.
And I mean slave labor.
I mean child slave labor.
And spare body parts, too, out of your citizens.
Yeah, and doing all kinds of other horrendous things.
Keep their citizens trapped in 15-minute cities with surveillance cabinets all over Beijing so they know where you are every minute of your life and social credit scores so if you disagree with them, you're canceled.
We don't care about any of that.
Let's be clear about this because that is the model for the whole world.
That is what Agenda 2030 sought to achieve.
Was the entire world becoming effectively a Chinese communist enterprise?
And that is the definition of fascism and tyranny, right?
Which is what you said.
If you go more than five kilometers from your house without permission, your money doesn't work.
If you buy too much meat, your programmable money doesn't work.
And then now they're rolling out the central bank digital currency, otherwise known as the BRICS currency.
In order to control people's lives through spending and other means.
And that is what is in store for us.
So we're looking at this e-port, the echo port.
That's the peninsula.
That's the peninsula.
You can see how it really creates a very safe kind of harbor structure, which is 30 meters deep.
Right next to the shore.
Right next to the shore.
And so this is a natural deep water port.
This has to be developed.
And the next one up, by the way, the next nearest one up was $3 or $4 billion worth of dredging.
We have no dredging cost.
And the Chinese own that one too, by the way.
They own the port in Peru.
They just bought into it for Costco.
Their big Chinese government shipping company invested $1.3 billion for majority interest in this Chancani port, which is a port in Peru.
Okay, and it has constant dredging, etc.
And it does not accommodate these 24,000 TEU.
A TEU is a 20-foot equivalent.
It's how they measure a container.
So a ship that can contain 24,000 containers and also has dual capacity for liquid natural gas.
These are the biggest cargo ships in the world, and China operates them.
Yes, they do.
Now, China can get those cargo, these China Max cargo ships into Copia Port E, but they can't get them into the port in Peru.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And they can't get them into any ports on the eastern side.
They can't get them through the Panama Canal.
And if they can get them into Copia Port E, they can save 15 days sailing time and improve the efficiency of getting their food from Argentina by 800% minimum.
And if China doesn't get the food from Argentina, their population could starve.
Yeah, that's right.
Only 17% of China is arable land.
It's not enough for them to feed their own people.
So their food supply is primarily in Argentina.
It used to get some in Ukraine.
As you can imagine, crops aren't doing so good there right now.
Yeah, and Ukraine was the breadbasket of a lot of Europe and a lot of Asia.
Yes.
And it's now, you know, sailing through the...
Ukraine doesn't have a naval military.
And so therefore, yes, Zelensky can send a missile every now and then to hit a Russian ship, but you're not going to do a lot of grain shipping out of the Black Sea if Russia is not in favor of it and Russia is not in favor of it right now.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, so if China gets...
Now, if we see the South America from Brazil down, and Chris, we can find a map like that just to put it up, just even something from Google Maps, anything.
You can see that Brazil, which is probably the largest geographical country in Brazil.
It has a wide coast on the Atlantic Ocean, probably more Atlantic coast than any other country.
And by the way, Buenos Aires in Argentina, the ports in Buenos Aires are inland ports on a river.
So, okay, there's no...
Those are the ports down on the right-hand side.
Those are the inland ports in Buenos Aires.
And so what China's going to do is for about 10 or 15 years, Chile, Brazil, and Paraguay have been talking about, and you can see Brazil, Chris, kind of with your cursor, you can show where Brazil is, you can show where Paraguay is, you can show where Chile is.
They were talking about building a bioceanic corridor that would connect the Atlantic Ocean on the, The highways already exist.
Highways exist.
What they announced recently was the, yeah, you're right, the rail part.
Well, the rail part is important because, and the trucking is good too, because now the cargo traffic internationally, It's what they call intermodal.
In other words, the cargo itself, the cargo container, these TEUs, these 20-foot equivalents, are able to be picked up by a crane and set on the backside of a truck that is designed to carry cargo containers.
It can be put on a rail car and shipped by rail.
Much more efficiently.
And you can stack a bunch of them on rail.
That's right.
Okay, so in these ports you see these big cranes.
You'll go by a port in Newark or the port in Long Beach or Los Angeles, any of the ports that are major ports in the United States.
All these cranes dominate it.
Well, the cranes are there to put these cargo containers, these 20-foot equivalents, onto cargo ships and to take them off.
And that's where the goods are, and that's how they're packaged to be shipped internationally.
And intermodal means that once China gets the Bi-Oceanic Corridor, they've got a land alternative to the Panama Canal.
Now, why is that important?
Well, because the Panama Canal was built in the 1890s.
Theodore Roosevelt project.
He started it out.
Theodore Roosevelt came into presidency in 1900, I believe, when McKinley died after being assassinated.
He was rushed into the White House and he picked up this project and built the Panama Canal.
Okay, now the Panama Canal, by today's standards, is old.
It's not going to handle these maximum conditions.
There's no way it can.
Yeah, but it's not wide enough.
And the idea of redoing the Panama Canal is like a nightmare because you have to take it down to redo it.
Yeah.
And dredge it.
And it could take 10 years to widen the Panama Canal.
You'd be almost better off to do another one.
Well, they are in Nicaragua.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this whole idea of Atlantic Pacific transit.
Which is blocked by Latin America, which has no sea passage, this narrow kind of peninsula-like corridor that ties together the countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, all these countries of Central America into South America.
There's no water passageway from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
So you've got to come through Central America, and that takes an enormous amount of digging, dredging, all kinds of other things to get it to work.
Or go all the way around.
Or go around the Cape.
Yeah, it's a long ways down there.
It's a long ways.
Okay, now, so if China controls Copia Port E and the Bioseanic Corridor, China owns South America.
Yeah, because also at the end of the day, let us not forget that 90% of their copper and rare earth minerals come from Chile to China.
Chile is the largest producer of copper in the world is Chile.
That's right.
90% of it goes to China.
And there are other rare earth minerals there.
They just found a deposit of lithium right near our property.
There is mineral wealth on our property.
We know that.
And so the point of which is, Jerry, to your point, actually, my sense is that in some respects the Chinese already own South America.
So any interest would be disruptive.
Take a look at South America for a minute.
Look at the size of Brazil there compared to all these other countries that are smaller countries on the periphery around Brazil.
Okay, so you've got countries like Colombia and Venezuela in the north.
And again, most Americans have never been in any of these countries.
Argentina in the south is a very large country.
It stretches all the way down to Patagonia, which is right by the Antarctic.
Yes.
Okay, and it's a long country, but it also has one of the best, most fertile areas in South America.
Yeah, the food supply of the world.
The thing about Brazil, by the way.
Brazil does too, but Brazil has also got the Amazon.
Which it takes up an enormous quantity of Brazil's territory.
And it's a rainforest.
It's not really farmland productive.
The soy is.
The soy in Brazil is top shelf.
50% protein content, as I understand it.
Yeah, but I'm saying in general, it's not like the land you need in Ukraine to grow wheat.
You're absolutely right.
The grain to grow wheat in Argentina.
Argentina.
Different climate.
Different climate.
And the soil is different.
The entire configuration is different.
It's ideal for wheat.
Yes, that's right.
Okay, and so wheat is a human staple.
I know a lot of people are gluten-free, but you'd be surprised how much we depend upon wheat and how much human civilization is dependent upon wheat for its nourishment.
On that note, we talk to the farmers in South America a lot.
And there are silos full of red hard wheat on the Atlantic coast waiting to get to market and cannot.
The farmers can only produce 50% of their total capability because they can't get their product to market.
Because at the end of the day, the ports on the east side of South America are in river basins.
So every time it rains, silt comes in and it raises the depth.
Of the port.
So even though you can get a 100,000 metric ton vessel into one of these ports, they can only take on 50,000 metric tons of cargo, or otherwise they'd bottom out.
Then they have to come in and dredge some more just to accommodate 50,000 metric tons at a time.
So there is no other way to take the entire production of South America and get it out of there to the markets.
Chris has got a very good graphic up right now.
There you go.
The Panamax, the maximum ship that can go through the Panama Canal is tiny compared to the Chinamax ships.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
And so the efficiency of getting a deep water port on the Pacific for supplying Asia is obvious.
Yes.
What people don't understand also is you're trying to get through the Panama Canal.
There are times you're going to have to wait three months to get through the Panama Canal.
It's not less than 15 days sailing time from our port to Shanghai.
Not less than.
And it's going to be at probably two weeks if you have to go around the Cape.
Yes, at least.
Or two weeks if you're lucky to get through the canal in two weeks.
That's right.
usually there's a one month waiting period you go you see you go down to panama and you see there are It's not a two-way highway.
One ship at a time goes through this canal.
The other thing about the Panama Canal that people don't understand is that the level of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are not the same.
That's right.
That's right.
So you've got one ocean.
I think it's the Atlantic that's...
The Atlantic is lower, the Pacific is higher, about 15 feet.
No, I think it's 50, 5-0.
5-0, okay.
Now, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
A human being could be maybe 6 foot tall.
We're talking about 50 feet.
Five stories.
Five stories, okay.
Now, what you have to do when you come through the canal is if you're coming from the Atlantic, you go through locks.
And the lock means the ship is put into and it's locked in.
The gates close.
And then they pump water into it to raise it up to the next level.
And then the gates open up and the ship sails into the next lock.
That's right.
And so they have to do this a series of times to get the ship to the height where it can sail in the Pacific.
That's right.
Okay, and it's reverse if it's coming from the Pacific to the Atlantic.
It's exactly right.
And in the meantime, if there are any droughts in Panama, the lake in the middle is too shallow to navigate.
And so therefore, you've got all these variables, which could mean it's going to take either...
And even when you're in the canal, it's not like you sail right through.
No.
It's a glorious process.
Very laborious.
Tractors on each side that have to pull the ships through.
They're very narrow gaps.
It's a phenomenal engineering feat, but it's outdated, as you said.
It's outdated.
It's old.
At best, it's going to be in the early 1900s that this thing came into operation.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure they didn't have 100,000 metric ton vessels back in those days, but they made it pretty close to accommodating those.
And by 1910, 1920, You know, we were still, I'm sure there were still ships with, you know, sails and masks.
We didn't have, you know, first of all, look, the initial sailing across the world was sails, and then steam came, and then coal came, and it was Churchill's era when oil began to dominate international shipping.
It's only recent.
That's in the 1930s.
And then nuclear doesn't come on until the end of the 20th century.
And we're still not – our commercial cleaners are not nuclear.
Yeah, everybody's burning Bunker C. That's the dregs of the barrel from the refining process.
Okay, so I want people to understand what we're talking about here because certainly everything we're talking about is fundamental.
To the Chinese.
That's right.
And the Chinese don't need an explanation of this.
No, they know it.
They're smart.
They've got it all figured out.
They plan 100 years in advance.
They are very wise in the way that they approach business, logistics, geopolitics.
They plan long in advance, and it seems that our country can only ever respond to things.
It's bizarre.
And even when you explain these things and try to get their attention, they're too busy.
With other things, to focus on something that takes any real consideration, especially if it's an area of the world where we are not trained in.
Now, in geography schools across the country, the attention given to South America is maybe one day in a geography class or two days in a geography class that people take in grade school, maybe or maybe not even given anymore.
You know, geography is a subject.
Yeah, I think that's right.
But, you know, much less the language skills necessary to, you know, visit, conduct business or otherwise.
You know, yeah, it's strange.
Okay, so what I'm pointing out is that China's got this whole thing wired.
I think so.
China came in to Scott and to Todd and they said, look, Todd, we've got a situation here.
You have bought the rights to this thing.
You're going through the environmental.
You tried to get the United States interested in this port.
Everybody looked at you like deer in the headlight stares.
They don't know what you're talking about.
Okay, now Donald Trump comes on.
Donald Trump says, we're going to start thinking hemispheric in terms of our security.
Monroe Doctrine, which was under James Monroe.
He was about a fourth or fifth president.
It was Washington, Adams, Jefferson.
Madison, and then Monroe.
I think it was our fifth president.
Monroe's doctrine was that the Western Hemisphere belongs to the United States.
That's our natural sphere of influence.
And he really only extended that down to about Cuba.
Maybe.
Part of the time.
Because Cuba was also Spanish.
and occupied by Spain, and Spain...
Cuba speaks Spanish.
You get some islands that were French and they speak French.
Other islands were dominated by Spain.
They speak Spanish.
Brazil is Portugal.
Portuguese they speak because the Europeans that came over were from Portugal.
But the United States has never really had a foothold in South America.
Yeah, it's really true, Jerry, in many respects, but I think they've had behind-the-scenes influence.
I think Mille would be an example of that in Argentina, and it's only in recent times.
And you can see the truth of what it is you're saying by noting that, for example, Cuba helped Venezuela become communist, Maduro and Fidel.
I spent three years in Cuba, so I know communism very well.
And Venezuela became communist, as did its neighbor to the North Colombians, right?
So think back to the 1960s, where Westmoreland et al.
were worried about stopping China and Southeast Asia, the communist creep.
But here we are in our own hemisphere, and our government heretofore has been unbothered by the fact that the entire freaking continent is turning commie.
So I can only come away from this, Jerry, to believe that this was part of a plan.
If you look at Agenda 2030 and the goals referenced therein, it moves the entire world towards a Chinese communist model economy and society with social credit scores and 15-minute cities and programmable money.
All of those kinds of things that we as Americans find disgusting, I guess is the word that I would use for that.
Okay, so let's go into the 70s and 80s, 1970s, 1980s.
And in that period of time, you began to have communism take a hold.
So Nicaragua goes communist.
That's right.
Okay, Danny Ortega.
Noriega.
All these countries are going communist.
Okay?
Communism is sweeping through South America as a liberating force.
In terms of religion, this liberation theology, which is that Jesus Christ was really economic and he cared for the poor because he wanted to see the social class phenomenon.
So they read Marxism into Jesus Christ.
He wasn't here to save souls.
He was here to prefigure Marx.
That starts in Latin America.
The roots...
Pope Francis comes out of South America.
He embraces the ecological movement.
He embraces the green movement.
He embraces LGBT.
He's fundamentally anti-American.
He sides with Obama.
He doesn't side with an Where they're bringing drugs through the border, fentanyl.
That's right.
Cocaine with the Sinaloa cartel.
Yes, sir.
And to bring 300,000.
Of course, you know, through the Catholic Church.
Yes.
Yeah, they were involved.
Bringing in the immigrants, the illegal immigrants across the border.
That's exactly correct.
That's right, we created this great foundation for-Replacement, replacement.
This was a plan, and these were commitments the United States and other nations made pursuant to Agenda 2030.
This is a UN convention.
With the full cooperation of the Catholic Church, we're just getting billions of dollars to fight to house and take care of these illegals and protect them from being deported.
That's right.
Okay, so the Catholic Church is going broke because of the priest scandal.
The priest having sex with the older boys and they're coming out and they're losing their properties all across the country.
But our government keeps the Catholic Church afloat as long as the Catholic Church supports illegal immigrants and has a pathway for them to enter the United States and be settled here to stay permanently.
Oh, and make sure they vote Democrat.
And send remissions back to the country where they came from.
That's right.
Donald Trump comes in with a hemispheric view of security.
In other words, given the capability of our Thermonuclear weapons with hyper speeds.
Hypersonic speed.
A war from start to finish could take six minutes.
If that, we have directed energy weapons and space on aircraft.
They take seconds.
We have weaponized space.
That's right.
The Chinese have weaponized space.
The Russians have weaponized space.
Yes, sir.
Space is controlled largely through the Arctic and the Antarctic.
Exactly right.
Which have become military command bases.
And when you see Zelensky doing a drone strike into Russia, and by the way, Russia was clever enough that most of the planes that Zelensky hit were model planes, balsa wood.
Because he wasn't displaying his real bombers.
Those weren't the bear bombers.
Those weren't the bear.
No, they didn't have props on them.
They were the same army that Patton ran in England, where they're trying to fool Germany that we were going to attack at Pas de Calais.
I remember they had blow-up tanks.
It was brilliant.
But the point about that attack was it was drone attacks, and I'm sure they were guided from some satellite positioning.
Yes, of course they were.
Very technically guided.
So war has now become machines.
Guidance, GPS.
Oh, Jerry.
Now, and then that folds into artificial intelligence and what it is we see the Palantir CEO talking about is he's already created Kill This for his AI program integrated into our government and our records.
And our government yet has the holdovers from the Obama and the Biden years.
And these people are bringing in, even when Robert Kennedy is...
They're hiring companies that hate Robert Kennedy.
And us.
And us.
And we're working to destroy America.
And us.
So if I were president for 20 seconds, my advice to Donald Trump would be, you know, anybody in Washington who comes to say they're there to help you is lying.
In fact, anybody who's talking to you is lying.
And just assume that they've got their, What do you want?
Secondly, anybody who's had the job before you got there, you need to fire.
So legacy employees are working for themselves.
They're not working for you.
They don't intend to work for you.
They view you as temporary.
You'll be gone.
Ah, you see, this is the permanent bureaucracy is what he faces.
Yeah.
And they'll just wait for him to be gone.
Yeah, that's right.
And all the time, wow, they'll just kind of do nothing but their jobs and try to keep their heads down and not be noticed.
That's what we did last time.
And they survive and you're gone.
Yes.
In the meantime, they subvert you and they tell you things that are – And you need the Mandarin class in a controlled society.
Well, we have to respect what it is that they've done, Jerry.
I mean, I don't like it, but we have to respect the fact that they've been so effective at their ability to acquire the U.S., whether that's through the politicians or the farmland or giant companies.
All of it has been very carefully orchestrated over a really long time, like 100 years or more.
And this is the point I don't understand.
How can they be so visionary, so brilliant in their planning and tenacious in achieving their goals when all we ever do is react?
That seems like a paradigm, like a controlled paradigm.
The first thing that Mao does is he comes in and he's got a great leap forward and they kill millions of people.
Of course, because they were a problem, like us.
Cultural revolution.
Kill millions.
Destroy the culture, destroy the traditions of the country.
Okay, and then get a psychological propaganda program where you indoctrinate the people, and they all run around with their little red books, and they're all DEI and all the other things we do in this country.
It's indoctrination.
Okay, so now the setup is that on...
I think so, yeah.
So on May 14th, Chilean President Gabriel Boric goes to China, meets with Xi in the Great Palace, which is a big deal, and they have the fourth ministerial meeting celebrating their 55-year anniversary of diplomatic relations.
The day before, May 13th, the Brazilian president was there, the Silva.
He's celebrating the 50th anniversary.
And then suddenly, May 29th, you start getting two of the final environmental approvals from the Chilean government.
Finally, it is coming through.
They've only been working for it for about a decade.
And now another six on top came in.
So how many more do you have to go?
Three?
Five.
Well, those will come in too.
I suspect so.
I mean, the reality is this.
We spent many millions of dollars, many years doing this extraordinarily robust environmental application process with 20,000 pages of exhibits of science and due diligence and without reservation.
You know, everything we did was accepted.
It went through three rounds of analysis.
And with no gigs, effectively.
So if there was ever a dispute as to why it wouldn't go through, it would be purely political, not scientific.
You get it down, you're going to be, and you even have an indigenous Apache tribe here that is part of the mix of this ownership structure.
That's right, that's correct.
And so, you know, that gives another level of protection, as it were, to the whole project.
Because you don't want to hurt the indigenous people.
Well, they can't.
Chile is bound by its negotiations and terms of observance of the UN Declaration of Rights of Indigenous Persons.
The last phase of our environmental application was an indigenous consultation.
In other words, the government had to go talk to the other Indians.
I am a Chiricahua Apache, by the way.
And they had to go and have discussions and ensure that they were happy with what was happening in their former territorial lands as indigenous.
And we've had discussions between our tribe and them.
We're all indigenous.
We're all in agreement.
This is good for everybody.
That was the last thing.
That was the last part of our application to Chilean regulators.
And it came back positive.
Everybody wins.
So there's really no reason for any rejection unless, of course, it was political.
And we don't really expect to face those headwinds, given that it appears to me that the Chileans would really like this to go to the Chinese.
And I understand why they would.
Who wouldn't?
You know, they're their biggest trading partner.
And where else in South America is the U.S., just as you indicated?
nowhere.
So, yeah.
Okay.
And then the culminating factor here is in July, Xi is coming to Brazil in order to participate in the It's the celebration of the BRICS launch, as I understand it.
That's right.
That's right.
The currency, their crypto central bank digital currency, which is, of course, programmable money that they're going to kick off as a competitor to the U.S. dollar.
They want it to be the new world reserve currency.
And they're effectively replacing the SWIFT system amongst other means of transmitting money with this cryptocurrency that they can program, turn on and off.
So they don't like what your policy is.
Oh, so sorry, that million dollars you just got paid or million, whatever it's going to be called, digital won.
Sorry, it doesn't work.
Okay, well, so everything's being set up so that when...
He can make an announcement that China has gotten this port, and they will be pressuring you to exercise the MOU before the end of June.
I don't know if that's speculation, but it's reasonable speculation.
It seems to me timed, and certainly the dates fitting together make that highly likely.
I suspect so.
And to your point, Jerry, I don't think anybody's environmental application has gone through the system as quickly as ours has.
Well, I think it would be almost impossible for people to go through this quickly.
Yes.
And so, if Xi is coming into the Rio BRICS Summit in July 2025, He's coming here to make an announcement.
He'll do it with the port in his back pocket.
Well, I think so, in so much that they've already discussed and disclosed that they're going to run their bioceanic rail to Copiapo.
Our port is named after that nearby city in that region.
So, basically, it's coming through one of the two passes in front of our property, the San Francisco Pass in particular, as I understand it.
So, you know, effectively what they're saying is, oh, by the way, we're running a rail to the peninsula, which we don't yet own, but will.
Instead of the United States Navy operating out of the Copia Port E and being able to establish our strategic position in Antarctica with the Navy, we're going to lose that, and we'll have to deal with China to deal with Antarctica.
I think that's accurate.
If this comes down, China has one of the last pieces in place that it needs in order to have world dominance.
Let us not forget that the Russians built seven nuclear-powered billion-dollar vessels, icebreakers.
Five went to Antarctica, two went to the Arctic.
So the reality is the pot of gold is on the south side of the planet.
And everybody's racing for it because the Antarctic Treaty expires in 2048.
They're all down there now.
There's actually a bank with retail outlets now in Antarctica.
They don't talk about it, but it's there.
There's a lot of people who live down there now.
Yeah, I mean, the first time I flew over the pole, it was a big deal.
And it was only in the 20th century that we really had explorations reach the North and South Pole.
When I was a kid, it was a big deal.
Yeah.
The explorers got there.
Yeah, at all.
It was a big deal that, you know, Admiral Byrd had gotten there.
And today I doubt very many Americans even know about Admiral Byrd's expedition.
Where he got chased out?
That one?
Okay, sure.
I guarantee you're right.
And so what we're facing here, and the whole point of this program is that if Donald Trump gets it, You're not getting this port.
Xi is not going to go for grabbing the port.
They'll revise another plan and wait until Donald Trump's out of there.
Then they'll come back and pay people and buy it later.
They'll have another 100-year plan to get where they want to get.
But they're not going to confront Donald Trump.
So right now, the issue is whether or not we can get through the And the only way we're going to get through that is if the American people realize that in fact this is a big deal decision.
And that if we don't get it now, the time we have to preserve any hope of democracy, the last best hope of humanity, as Abraham Lincoln said, is rapidly fading away.
That is true.
That is exactly right.
And, you know, Donald Trump has pulled us out of the World Health Organization, which is trying to get it.
Kind of.
Kind of, but not really, you know.
I know.
Because, again, you've got the bureaucrats.
They all still have ties to the WHO.
They do, as does our military.
The Defense Health Agency is our military.
Yeah, that's right.
And by the way, we're not officially out of it for a year.
Even then, the notice was defective.
The notice had to come from the head of state, not the head of the State Department.
So, again, there'd be lots of technical ways that the next president would not have Donald Trump's ilk.
And it's not sure yet that Donald Trump is going to be able to get a hold of this bureaucracy and get a hold of the government.
One must wonder, given what happened in Ukraine.
I mean, it looks to me, Jerry, like elements of our government, you know, went and committed war crimes.
We have Mike Pompeo in Ukraine with Lindsey Graham and Blumenthal, Senator Blumenthal.
And Tulsi Gabbard.
And Tulsi Gabbard.
And they're all egging on Zelensky to keep fighting, as is Macron, as is Germany, and as is England.
Well, and provocations, you know, the part about that that bothers me is that heretofore, there was already a treaty in place, the Minsk Accords.
The U.S., Ukraine, Russia signed it.
The next day, America and Ukraine breached it.
But Russia has been honoring that.
It's not so very strange.
Boris Johnson was one who said he tried to scrap the Minsk Accords.
Russia's constantly pointed out the Minsk Accords, and Russia had signed the Minsk Accords.
And honored them.
And the whole idea was, and the American press is not reporting it, that the Porchenko, who was the prime minister before Zelensky, and Zelensky have been sending in these neo-Nazi brigades into the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine, Crimea, and these two provinces on the coast.
And not a few.
It's 30,000 or 40,000 a year they're killing, or were.
There's a lot.
It was a decimation.
And those people cried for help and said, hey, please, somebody stop this.
And Russia, by the way, which claims and is recognized, Ukraine is a territory of Russia, exerted a police action.
They call it a special operation.
They don't look at this as a war.
They look at this as a civil territorial problem.
And now Trump is going to welcome Mertz into the Oval Office, and we wonder what that conversation is going to be.
And Mertz is 100% now supporting Ukraine to continue the war.
Well, I'd like to understand why that is.
When there was already an agreement in place that we...
Why did we breach that?
What is it that they seek to achieve?
I don't understand.
And if somebody had a good explanation of that, I'd like to hear it because I'm open to understanding this, but I don't understand it.
Well, I think we've covered this pretty thoroughly, and I'm going to try to get this video embedded in several different places so people can have a chance to really understand how important this is.
And we're going to do everything we can to try to prevent this port from going to Communist China.
But it's going to take the American people demanding and understanding what's at stake here before the bureaucracy is told to stand down.
Well, I appreciate your efforts to do that, Jerry.
But I, you know, I have to advise It's a value to anybody.
At the end of the day, we're in business.
If nobody else decides to step up, there are other countries interested, then it's going to go to whoever it has to go to.
When you get your environmental approvals, Chile's going to expect you to be spending about $150,000 a month to develop this thing.
It's a lot more than that.
How much?
It's many, many millions of dollars.
Okay, and you're running an investment fund, and you're not in the port development business.
I'm in the insurance business, not the investment fund business.
This happens to be an asset that we own.
We own assets all over the planet.
Yeah.
Well, and again, we're contacting private investors, major companies, and I think you're going to get offers even from Dubai ports to – So the game is not over yet.
Well, it's a good investment.
The reality is the economics are astounding.
It's just, again, the Chinese have played their hand really well.
They understand the economics.
They want it.
And I don't blame them for wanting it.
The question is whether anybody else does.
The Chinese are not...
This whole agenda is satanic because it has nothing to do with human freedom.
It has nothing to do with the value of human beings.
These people want to eliminate billions of people.
They don't care if they make us into vegetables.
They don't mind developing all kinds of things that are detrimental to human existence and human happiness.
So this is a battle that is, in the end, God always wins.
God will win this one, too.
Todd, thank you for being with us.
I think it's been an important program, and we appreciate your time.
It is really my honor, Jerry.
It's been such a joy to work with you over this period of time, and I'm grateful for your brilliance, your foresight, and your opinions.
