Sept. 10, 2024 - The Truth Central - Dr. Jerome Corsi
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Heading Back to Ohio as Investigations into Suspicious Voter Roll Algorithms Heat Up
Dr. Corsi is in on the way back to Ohio as he continues with his extensive probe into suspicious voter roll algorithms in several U.S. states – and while Ohio has launched an official investigation into the matter. For today’s The Truth Central, we take you to a conversation he had recently with Daniel Estulin discussing his fight to expose and stop the use of this algorithm as part of the “The Real Steal” series on The Truth Central. You can find out more about this effort and how to donate to help Dr. Corsi, Andrew Paquette, Dr. Karlene Graves and the team expose this threat and stop “The Real Steal” through the website: https://GODSFIVESTONES.COM If you like what we are doing, please support our Sponsors:Get RX Meds Now: https://www.getrxmedsnow.comMyVitalC https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America: https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpGet Dr. Corsi's new book, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear, here: https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-President-John-Kennedy-Headshots/dp/B0CXLN1PX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20W8UDU55IGJJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ymVX8y9V--_ztRoswluApKEN-WlqxoqrowcQP34CE3HdXRudvQJnTLmYKMMfv0gMYwaTTk_Ne3ssid8YroEAFg.e8i1TLonh9QRzDTIJSmDqJHrmMTVKBhCL7iTARroSzQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=jerome+r.+corsi+%2B+jfk&qid=1710126183&sprefix=%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1Join Dr. Jerome Corsi on Substack: https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/Visit The Truth Central website: https://www.thetruthcentral.comGet your FREE copy of Dr. Corsi's new book with Swiss America CEO Dean Heskin, How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush by calling: 800-519-6268Follow Dr. Jerome Corsi on X: @corsijeromeOur link to where to get the Marco Polo 650-Page Book on the Hunter Biden laptop & Biden family crimes free online:https://www.thetruthcentral.com/marco-polo-publishes-650-page-book-on-hunter-biden-laptop-biden-family-crimes-available-free-online/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-truth-central-with-dr-jerome-corsi--5810661/support.
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Welcome once again to the show.
Dr. Corsi is on the way back to Ohio as he continues on with his extensive probe into suspicious voter roll algorithms in several U.S.
states.
This while Ohio has launched an official investigation into the matter.
For today's The Truth Central, we're going to take you to a conversation he had recently with Daniel Estulin about this as part of the Real Steel series here on The Truth Central.
You can find out more about this effort and how you can help out with Dr. Corsi, Andrew Paquette, and Dr. Graves' investigation as they expose the threat and stop this real steel through the website Gods5stones.com.
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Now, here's Dr. Jerome Corsi's conversation with Daniel Estulin.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Thanks so much for joining us.
This is Daniel Eshelal.
Welcome to Eshelal.me.
Today, my guest is an old friend of mine.
We've been friends for many, many years, but this is an interview I particularly wanted to talk to him about.
His name is Jerome Corsi.
He's the co-founder of God's Five Stones.
We're going to talk about that as well.
He has a PhD from Harvard University Department of Government.
That's back in 1972.
He's also the author of more than 30 books.
Economy, history, politics, including six New York Times bestsellers and two at number one.
Jerome, thanks so much for joining us.
Always a great pleasure to be with you, Daniel.
Thank you.
You know, in this interview, I mean, I always look forward to talking to you, but I particularly look forward to speaking today because what I want to talk to you about today is I would like for you to educate us on what governments do, their shenanigans, and how they steal the elections.
Okay, so people for the most part, you know, I think they're good natured.
It doesn't matter if you're in the United States, in Canada, in Venezuela, in Russia, in In China, in Spain, okay?
And so we all believe, for the most part, that, you know, that our vote counts.
So people go out and, you know, they fill out their ballot, big paper, electronic.
They press a button or deposit the thing, you know, slip of paper into the hole, okay?
And they think, okay, I voted for this guy.
It's democracy, human rights, all that kind of stuff, okay?
And so in the end, you tally the votes.
One vote for this guy, one vote for the other guy, six votes for this guy, two for the other guy.
And so, you know, whoever gets more votes wins.
And that's what really should get, you know, that's how it should be, but that's not what happens, is it?
Not at all.
I mean, we're finding, and this is Andrew Paquette's work, I mean, he's really a computer genius.
He got a hold of, for two years, the New York State Board of Election voter registration file.
This is the official file.
And what he found in it, but genius work, he found that there are algorithms.
In other words, it's coded like a cryptography scheme.
This is like a professional CIA job in which someone came in, probably surreptitiously, to the New York computers, the voter data in the election board, and they coded it so that they could plant false records.
People who don't exist, but yet they get legitimate New York State voter IDs.
And then it's like a card marking scheme where they, these are like the marked cards, and they hide them back into the deck of cards and all the votes so you can't find them unless you're the criminals who did the code And then you've got the ability to pull those votes out whenever you want them to use them for mail-in votes.
Now, since you've got a legitimate New York State voter ID, when you pull that file out and you vote it in a mail-in vote, that number is run through the computer.
It's certified.
So you've just certified a vote that doesn't exist.
This is a intelligence operation.
And what I'm saying is that the intelligence agencies have penetrated into the computer systems of the state election boards.
And in fact, the CIA could be running our elections.
So let me ask you something else, because again, you know, let's take this slowly.
Because for the most part, for most people, what you're saying is, you know, it's flabbergasting, and also at the same time, it's, you know, it's mind-boggling.
Because for the most part, people think, well, you know, the Russians stole the elections, the Chinese, you know, the Cubans.
But, you know, so, but my question is, how do you steal an election?
And what's the difference?
In the way elections are stolen, for example, in countries like Venezuela, or France, or Spain, the United States, Russia.
A few years back, just to give you an idea, I think it was 2015, okay, Putin's party, well, you know, they overdid it a bit.
When the votes were tallied, they got 150% of the vote.
I'm not kidding.
They got a hundred.
I mean, it was, it was embarrassing.
Okay.
They made some, you know, flimsy excuse about, you know, somebody didn't read the number right.
You know, the one wasn't a one.
It was like 150.
It was like, you know, 51.
Anyway, but the point is, you know, we, we, now we know that thanks to, you know, people like you, thanks to social media, that elections are stolen and that the Russians have nothing to do with this.
So, so again, to the general question, How do you steal elections?
Because in Venezuela, they just stole the elections.
It's the same system.
They use it in the EU too.
It's the same system.
If you have control of the computer that is running the election, even surreptitiously, as an intelligence agency, you know, I'm a political scientist.
My PhD is in political science.
You can profile the election.
And as you watch the election, you can see which candidate is favored.
And if you've got false records planted in the database that you can vote at will, you get mail-in ballots with certifiable numbers.
I mean, Daniel, I could come to you as an intelligence agent and say, OK, do you want Kamala Harris to win by 1%, 3%, or 5%?
Do you want her to be leading early in the day, later in the day?
Do you want it to be a comeback?
So it's like made to order.
Whatever you want.
It's like building a house.
Do you want a blue wall?
Do you want a big window?
Do you want a small window?
So you could literally predict.
Dial your election.
I'll make it go that way.
In fact, it's getting so sophisticated, the control of the intelligence agencies over voting, that they could actually run a simulation of the election.
And if they don't like how it really voted, they could throw the real votes away and just vote their simulation.
And you wouldn't know the difference.
Because they control the computers, they would register their votes, and it would look so precise.
In terms of their voting ability.
As they're dialing, they're watching it all day long.
They're saying, well, Camilla is gaining, she's dropping behind.
So let's pull some more of our fake votes with real numbers.
Let's get some more mail-in votes and let's mail them in for Camilla and count them.
Even though they'll count because they're certifiable.
We've got a legitimate number here.
A fake vote, we made the voter up.
But now we've boosted Camilla's numbers.
We do that all day long.
So we can make the election look any way you want it to look.
And you'll think you're voting, but you're really in a Truman show.
You're in a play.
You're in an act.
Your votes are just a—you think you're doing something of significance, but it's really being thrown away.
You mentioned in a recent interview, I was listening to it yesterday, that you were saying that, you know, you're just an example of children.
You have so many children.
And then suddenly, when you vote, you find out that you have like, you know, an extra 65 children.
Can you explain that analogy?
Because I really liked it.
Well, see what they do is everybody knows their children, but firstborn child was the one born first.
Right.
Very good at music.
Well, you know which child you're talking about.
It was a one born third.
Right.
Well, the state comes to you, the State Board of Elections, and they say, well, you know, Daniel, I'm sorry, your first child is number one, but your second child is number 12.
And your next child is number 23.
And then your next child is number 34 and 45.
Your fifth child is 56.
Wait a minute, I don't have 56 children.
So in our records, there's 56 children in your file.
And there's real children.
You think your number one and number two is 12.
Well, there's 10 other kids in there.
Now there may be somebody else.
Where do they come from?
I may have taken somebody else's and inserted them in there.
And by the way, I made three of them up.
They don't exist.
Because as soon as I I separate your order from a natural order and reorder
things.
See, this is fundamental to card marking schemes.
You can't mark a deck of cards from the manufacturer because you take the cellophane off. Right. In order.
So the first thing you have to do is shuffle the cards.
Now you can insert your marked cards and they won't be seen.
So I have to say, I'm going to take the people who registered to vote, I'm going to separate their voter ID number from the date they registered.
So your kids are no longer numbered by how they were born in relationship to other kids.
I just separated your kids.
But doesn't that raise red flags within the system itself?
Only if you it's so you since only the state knows your voter ID number.
And if you know your voter ID number, you don't know how it was derived.
You think it may be in relationship to how you register.
The state is throwing that data away.
And so your voter ID is no longer a function of when you register.
It's just a function of the number scheme, according to which the state gives you your number.
And they separate the numbers in order to get space in which they can put new records, including false records.
They've shuffled the cards.
So if you say your kids are number 1 and number 2, and there's 11 other kids, they've just given you 10 other kids.
They've made them part of your file, and now suddenly your kids are no longer in relationship to when they were born.
So they're totally devoid of reality.
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Jerome, let me ask you a question.
The elections in Venezuela, they were just blatantly stolen a month ago, the 20th of July.
And they had your QR codes, and you had your, you know, the ID, and you had all kinds of sophisticated, because allegedly Venezuelan system is the most sophisticated in the world.
But they still stole the elections.
They're not the same in France, okay?
They're the same, as you said, in the European elections.
They stole the elections in Spain.
They're most likely going to steal the elections in the United States.
So, do people behind the scenes, in the case of the United States, Donald Trump, does he understand that the people who are running the Venezuelan elections are the same people who are running the French elections, or are they not the same people?
It's just the system is the same.
And if the system is the same as an Israeli system, what do they have to do?
Again, you mentioned intelligence agencies.
What are these intelligence agencies and how are they involved, especially on the programming level, with stealing the elections?
I think they're all involved.
They share the same programs.
They share the same desires.
They want to destroy national sovereignty.
They want to move to this new one world order.
Even Klaus Schwab has said at the World Economic Forum, we don't need voters anymore.
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We've got a lot of data there.
We now have an official inquiry that's going on in Ohio.
We're going to start one in Oklahoma.
I'm in Oklahoma today.
So even Maloney in Italy said recently, you think you're voting, but the governments are running the elections.
These intelligence agencies work together.
They have a common purpose.
They want to destroy national sovereignty, want this transhumanism.
They're moving towards a new world order.
It's a satanic, satanic agenda.
Did the U.S.
authorities learn anything from the 2020 election theft?
The U.S.
authorities really did not.
I mean, they suppress the information.
Again, the intelligence agencies control the news media.
So any attempt to get this information out has been suppressed.
And the genius of... You can see the paper on our website.
Andrew Paquette did work that would be intelligence agency quality work.
He broke a code.
And so you can see the number schemes in which I'm talking about rearranging the numbers, like rearranging your children.
You can see how the votes are by the ciphers, the Caesar cipher, put back into the deck, how they can be called out.
So in the EU, there's two elections.
First election, the pen and the conservatives were winning.
Second election, suddenly the socialists win.
They say, oh, the socialists woke up and they surged.
Well, I call over, I speak Italian, I speak French, I call over to France, I call over to Italy and say, are there people in the polls with the surges?
Of course, there's nobody in the polls.
The surge is happening in the computers.
The surge is happening because the intelligence agencies have now gone to work and they're voting the fake votes that they have stored away.
It's a kind of surge that we saw when the famous curve that went up with Biden winning the election against Donald Trump.
It's all telltale signs that the election is being manipulated so that the real votes cast don't count anymore.
Now the real election is happening.
The real election is happening in the machines by the agents who are running it, and they're covert agents.
In many cases, even the state boards of election don't know that these algorithms are in their systems.
I'm finding they're shocked we show them what they have.
I mean, I'm in Oklahoma right now, today.
There's a hundred, it's got a very small state, But there's 170,000 people registered with the Oklahoma Department of Elections who have registration dates before they were born.
Now, how do you register for an election before you're born?
Well, those are false records that are put in.
Divine intervention, Jerome.
Let me ask you something else.
When was the last clean election held in the United States of America?
That's a hard question.
I think we go back even to the 1960s with the Nixon-Kennedy debate.
I think that was filthy.
I think if you look at how sophisticated the election theft has become because of the technology.
Yes.
And if you look at the progression, because I think Nixon knew that JFK and his dad, they stole the elections, but for the sake of the system.
He had a noble purpose to try to preserve the integrity of voting, but he knew he lost the election because it was stolen.
And I'm sure, see, if you're going to design an effective election system where the people really vote, you've got to design it so you anticipate theft.
It's got to be so that there's a record that you have that's unique to you, that no one else can capture.
We've got to rethink, our election systems around the world are completely broken.
And because they're run through these computers, and they're technologically oriented, they're vulnerable to algorithms, and the intelligence agencies can get in there, they write secret codes, they control the election, and even the public authorities don't know they're doing it.
And then they certify these elections, which is the key, and make it very difficult to challenge legally.
As the courts say, the election was certified.
You can't challenge a certified election.
And what I'm doing now by exposing these algorithms is trying to say, in advance, before, look at how corrupt the systems are.
We've gone inside the computers.
We're showing you inside the computers that the databases are corrupt.
And they're corrupt because of number schemes and coding schemes, elaborate manipulations of the data that are made that are covert.
And these are known by only the covert agents who are doing them, who may be Democrats, but usually right now I think you've got the extreme left aligned with the intelligence agents, because the intelligence agents know that extreme neo-Marxism will destroy traditional societies, and that's their precursor to creating the New World Order.
If you're looking at the Union, 50 states and the United States of America, what's the most corrupt and the least corrupt in your opinion?
Well, I think the most corrupt are the states like California and New York.
Of course.
The big city, most controlled by Democrats, neo-Marxists.
And the intelligence agencies are right in the middle of it.
I mean, Daniel, you and I have talked for years.
The intelligence agencies run the drug traffic, run pedophilia, and now they're running elections.
And so, therefore, we are living in a world that's architected not by reality, But by an intelligence agency show, by narratives that are all lies, and they want the perpetual wars, you know?
Why do buildings that were not hit by airplanes in 9-11 fall down, building 7?
Divine intervention, Jerome.
Divine intervention.
Where were the weapons of mass destruction in 1991 when we invaded Iraq with Saddam Hussein?
Why do we have a vaccine that doesn't stop you from getting the disease?
In fact, the vaccine may kill you.
These are all lies.
And the intelligence agencies feel now they're in sole control of the media and the narrative.
They're in sole control of psychological abilities.
They can now run.
They don't need voters.
So they're basically no longer afraid.
The mask is off.
They say, hey, here we are.
You mentioned drugs.
If you look at the, especially during George W. Bush administration, if you look at the four states, I talk about it in my book, Shadowmasters, that the biggest contributors to the election cycle are California, New York, Florida, and Texas.
The four states that launder more drugs than any other state in the Union are California, New York, Florida, and Texas.
At the time, you had California and New York run by the Democrats.
And the Bushes, they ran Florida, Jeb Bush, and Texas.
And so drugs certainly had played a very important role in how the election cycles were actually put together.
But let me ask you something else.
For the theft to be effective, speaking of the election theft, what kind of specialists need to be contracted?
Because we can talk about intelligence agencies.
You know, it's a big intelligence agency.
It's a big thing.
But within the intelligence agencies you have specialists.
People who make these things happen.
So what kind of specialists are they going to need to call in?
And then how do you ensure their silence?
Well, especially for people like myself.
I mean, I'm a political scientist.
I mean, I've been, in the 1960s, when I was an undergraduate, I was a graduate student.
Through all those years, I was working with professors to work with television stations and call elections.
You learn how to profile an election.
Before an election is held, I can tell you, this candidate is, you know, left or right, and in this precinct, they need to get so many votes or they're going to lose.
So I can profile the entire election in my computer simply knowing voting behavior and how many people vote, how many people are registered, what the profiles are.
I can profile an entire election and make it look like the real thing.
That's the reality.
I can make it look even more real than a real election.
But you still, if you're the Intel agencies, you're gonna need to hire specialists, maybe hackers, maybe computer programmers, to make sure that, you know, you set it up in a way that makes it look real, when it's a fact it is not.
So what kind of specialists are these people gonna have to call in?
You're going to need people who know how to get into the mainframe systems of the state election boards of election to get to manipulate their computers.
You're going to need people who can watch the profiling of the voting and know how to adjust the dials, to use their fake votes and not use their votes, and to dial in the election the way they want.
You need people who are controlling the computer counting systems.
This corruption has to go all the way through the entire system.
But it's like if you go back to drugs.
You can't run an international drug cartel without a bank.
And Daniel, you'll remember 2011, I caught HSBC doing money laundering.
With the drug cartels.
Billions of dollars in drug money, yeah.
Because you can't take a semi-truck full of $100 bills as a drug lord and run around and buy your lunch with, you know, taking $100 bills out of the back of the semi-truck.
You gotta get the money.
So we have corrupt systems now.
And who runs the corrupt systems?
Well, the banks run the corrupt systems because it's very profitable.
And who runs the systems within the bank?
Corrupt agents who are part of the deal.
You know, we'll pay you extra money, you get a bonus, you get to be part of the cut.
But you can't tell anyone.
I mean, these systems, including the demonic systems, including the, you know, the buying into this, this, you know, New World Order cult.
Which is basically demonic.
It has a lot of rituals to it.
Once you buy in, you're not going to buy out.
Because as soon as you buy in, you're blackmailable.
And so therefore they, and if you've got any predilections, you know, if you like to have sex with children or you like drugs and you like sex parties, they'll provide you what you want.
Or your closet homosexual.
I mean, that's how they do their files on your control files.
And so once you're co-opted, now you're controlled by this evil.
And if the evil is predominant, I mean, You know, our border is open to fentanyl, to drugs, because that's the way the intelligence agencies want it.
Very profitable.
And also their agenda is to destroy traditional society.
You can have anything they tell you.
You can have anything you want.
Okay?
As long as you stay, you know, on this boat, metaphorical boat, you don't get off.
You get off, we kill you.
You'll end up in the desert somewhere.
There's no way to get out.
Right.
You're cut off.
They'll cut you off in a second, or they'll suicide you.
You're no longer reliable.
You can check into this hotel, but you can never check out.
That's Hotel California song.
You can check in, but you can never check out.
So let me ask you something else.
The elections are coming up in November.
Again, my second follow-up question was, how do you keep this quiet?
Because there's a lot of people involved.
And a lot of these people who are involved, especially on the level of programming, etc., they're normal people.
They're not into drugs.
They're not into perverted sex.
They're not into little boys and girls.
They're just normal people.
Yeah, they just do their job.
But still, there's a lot of people, as you said, it's a top-down structure.
It's not like, you know, 10-20 people you can rely on.
There's, you know, there's thousands of people all over the country who are doing this.
So how do you keep this secret?
Because if one of these people talks, and we know of cases where, again, look at Boeing, you know, the whistleblowers, well, they're dead.
But still, do you think that the elite is concerned that somebody is going to talk and this thing is going to come down on them?
What we're doing is very disruptive.
Publishing this material, as I'm doing, on this gods5stones.com is very disruptive.
But the average person is afraid.
Because, you know, you start objecting, then the FBI comes to your door and starts raiding you.
You start talking about this immediately, you're risking your job.
What's wrong with you?
Are you a bank account?
Are you credit raging?
Are they calling you a loan?
There's lots of... Suddenly, your bottom starts falling out, okay?
Because you're cut off.
We're dependent upon being able to access our credit, access our money.
We're dependent upon having a job and they say suddenly, I want to have a job review with you.
I don't think you're doing your job.
You're raising questions that don't need to be raised.
Don't raise that question again.
You want to do this job or you want to lose this job?
Don't look at that data anymore.
You're raising questions you shouldn't.
That's not your job to be looking.
That's a conspiracy theory.
Are you a Russian agent?
We're gonna have to look more into your background.
Suddenly your wife leaves, takes the children, takes the house, you're living on the street.
But, you know, you made a choice.
It's always about making choices.
And if they get their way, there'll be 15-minute cities and you'll just be cut off immediately for thinking things they don't want you to think.
Okay, so let's extrapolate that.
Okay, so the elections are coming up, November 2024.
Okay, we have Trump versus Harris.
Okay, you know, Harris is a, you know, brainless degenerate fool, you know, with a cackle.
Okay, Trump, he knows what he's up against.
He's, you know, he's been there, done that, got the, you know, the fridge magnet, the t-shirt, you know, everything.
So, what are they going to do?
Because he knows that, you know, they're going to try to steal the elections.
My question to you, first question, do you think they're going to steal the elections?
Or is the divide between the, you know, the people who are absolutely going to vote for Donald Trump, is so large, that even trying to steal the elections, they, you know, there's just too many people voting, too many millions.
The difference of people voting for Donald Trump as opposed to Harris that, you know, they say, maybe we shouldn't really do it.
My goal is by exposing this now, Daniel, before the election and showing the people the algorithms and we've got official investigations started.
You know, we've got them in Ohio.
We've got one going in Oklahoma.
We're getting millions of people to take a look at the data and see that this is reality.
Okay?
They're seeing the algorithms.
They're seeing the manipulation.
Makes it harder.
Okay, makes it harder for them to steal.
Because once you're told, you suddenly, what to expect?
Well, expect that your candidate is going to be doing extremely well until later in the day.
Then there's going to be a surge against them.
Then they can stop the election when they start the counting again, your candidate will be losing.
These are telltale signs.
That's what they did with Trump.
That's exactly what they did.
And the thing is, I think what most people don't understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, Jerome, you don't need people saying, well, there's 300 or 200, whatever, million people voting.
You can't control 200 million votes.
I don't think you need to.
You need to control key states or key areas within these states that make a difference.
Am I right?
The cities.
You control the cities.
You control most states in the country, United States.
You control the cities.
The Democrats control the cities.
And this new world order crowd controls the Democrats.
This critical race theory is just a transitional stage to destroy traditional values before this new world order, totalitarianism.
And what we're seeing is, if people are aware of it, it's like the Truman Show.
Once you realize that you're, that this isn't, that you're not- This isn't real.
Yeah, isn't real.
So it's hard to put that back together again.
In other words, if people see the reality, And it's ancient.
The truth is what sets you free.
When people see the truth and they realize they've been lied to, the lie loses its impact.
So the truth is what we're after here, to get people to see it.
You know, Lyndon Johnson said it the best way ever, very crudely.
He said, don't tell people the guy's a bank robber.
Show people the guy robbing a bank.
They'll figure it out themselves.
So I'm showing you the intelligence agencies stealing elections.
Once you see it, and you see how they do it, you see the algorithms, you see the papers, we've got it all, and that's gods5stones.com, you see it, now you can't believe the illusion anymore.
I didn't have to tell you this, you see them stealing elections, you realize your vote means nothing, and suddenly the reality hits you and you can't be deluded any longer.
So Trump knows that this thing is real.
What are they doing?
Because again, the point, like for example, in Mexico, they just had an election about a month, two months ago, a month and a half ago.
Okay, Claudia Sheinbaum, the same political party, Morena is the current president.
Well, there's a huge difference.
It was like 16 or 17 million vote difference between her and the opposition.
Okay.
But in Trump's case, he knows that, you know, if in a real election, okay, he would win, it would be a landslide.
But what are they doing, knowing that the elections could be stolen?
Well, I think that now we've gotten, there's an army of people going into watching the polls.
There's an army now of people being mobilized in Ohio and Oklahoma, who are saying, we know this was stolen.
We know in Oklahoma, So the recount going on of a Tulsa mayor right now.
We revealed yesterday that there's 170,000 people in the Oklahoma registered to vote with the official state ID numbers to vote in Oklahoma who registered before they were born.
We have their names.
If those people voted, we're going to find out about that in the recount that's going on.
And we're going to challenge people, how is this registration legitimate?
This person was registered before they were born.
So throw this one out.
In other words, we're going to start challenging things.
We're going to start utilizing this data to go in and say, you cannot fool us any longer.
We know which ones are false.
We have detected the fraud.
We see that you're a bank robber.
You're not getting out of here with the cash.
Do you think Trump is willing to?
Because, again, the question is back in 2020, when the elections were stolen, OK, had Trump been because, you know, I think Trump is a charlatan.
I mean, I wrote a book about it in the shadows of the presidency, and I prefer Trump win.
And I think Putin is, you know, him saying that, you know, his favorite is Kamala Harris.
It's tongue in cheek thing.
And Trump and Trump understands it very well.
It's a grandmaster move.
But the point is, is that Now, you know, had Trump been a real leader back in 2020, you know, with a flag in hand, he would have said to the barricades, we're going to get our take our country back.
And so the United States would have, you know, been in the throes of the Civil War in November, December 2020.
And that would have, you know, and about a year and a half later, it would have come out on the other end of the war, having won that war.
against the Democrat, you know, the liberal Satanists.
And the United States still would have come out number one in the field of technology and politics and et cetera, et cetera.
But they didn't do that.
So these four years, these last four years, that's a big gap because a lot of the other countries, the Chinese, the Russians, the Indians, Iran, et cetera, et cetera, okay?
They've moved forward and so they're catching up to the United States.
And so the thing is, what I'm asking really is, Does Trump realize that if they're going to steal the elections again, and this may be the last elections in the history of the United States, with all the illegal immigrants coming into the country, is he prepared to say, we're not going to do this anymore?
Okay, let's get this done.
Okay, let's duke it out.
Civil war.
I think the first time Trump was naive.
Do you really think that?
I mean, this is a guy who's been around the block more than once.
No, no.
I've known Trump for a long time, and Trump trusts his organizations.
He trusts the people.
But my first rule in Washington, D.C.
I'll tell you two things.
Number one, my rule is anybody talks to you, you assume they're lying.
Rule number two is the only solution that will move the entire bureaucracy, including the Department of Justice and the CIA, to Death Valley, and they can have all the solar and wind they want.
That's a move to Death Valley.
It's the only way to get rid of them.
You've got to massively get rid of this bureaucracy.
Well, that means civil war, because there's no other way to do this.
Whatever it takes, the people are going to say, we're not funding it anymore.
We're not funding our destruction.
We're done with this.
The people have got to understand that they're going to be sovereign if they're going to raise their state, their children, and not have their children taken away by the state and made into sexual monsters.
Right.
They're going to believe in God and fight for God and not see themselves living in hell on earth.
Then we must say to this deep state, we're done with it.
The only resistance here is the refusal to go along with it.
The refusal to play.
We're taking our children out of the public schools.
Public schools can collapse.
We don't care about the teachers union.
Let them go bankrupt.
Let the cities go bankrupt.
Let's go through refusal to participate.
And it's getting to that point, because if people realize what the consequences are here of participating...
Eventually, people are going to realize, you're not going to take my child and make my child... But Jerome, to mobilize, sorry to interrupt you, but I totally agree with you.
But to mobilize a 300, how many are you there?
350 million people, or even half of that population.
People who are used to a sedentary lifestyle.
One of the reasons you have so many fat people in the United States, because fat people don't do much.
They're never going to protest, they're never going to go out, you know, in demonstrations, because they're fat.
They're gonna sit on the couch, and this isn't me saying it, this is a Tavistock Institute, you know, manual.
And so, how do you get these people to say, you know, screw you, you know, this is do or die?
The odds are all against us.
The odds are we lose.
This is to me one of the things I think about the human character, and in the end, God always wins.
I believe we do have a divine soul in us.
We do have God awareness in us.
And for some point or other, I don't believe that God created this to fail.
So at some point or other, enough people resist.
I think God will intervene and does intervene, and remarkable changes can occur.
They have occurred in history before, where people who had no history of rebelling, or had no history of changing governments, or no history of resistance, This all needs to be thrown out.
And when people decide they've had enough, at some point or other some switch goes off.
And people decide that they're done with it.
I'm seeing today a million middle-class people getting involved and turning off the mainstream media, not watching it anymore, not believing the mainstream media news and seeing the truth.
So it comes down to the fundamental point that I have confidence, and maybe it's misfounded, That in the final analysis, the human spirit is not going to be crushed by totalitarianism.
Because I think within us, we have a God soul that fundamentally says no.
Now, at that point, we're likely to lose.
We're destined to lose.
But, you know, in Valley Forge, we were destined to lose.
We're destined to lose as a human species millions of times.
Many, many, many, many times.
You know, Hitler should have won World War II.
One or two moves different, and he'd have won World War II.
Wouldn't have taken a lot.
Okay, but he lost.
At some point or other, the human spirit, I do not believe that this is our final destiny.
Because I think at some point or other the resistance takes hold and the tide changes.
Now that may be ill-founded.
I don't think so.
I totally agree with you.
My question here is, do you think Trump is an ideal leader to lead the United States into a new world?
Not a new world order, but into a different world.
First of all, Trump symbolizes a movement.
It's the movement that's important.
It's the movement that's important.
Trump himself is a human being.
He's got his limitations.
I've known Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is a remarkable human being.
But he often trusts his people around him too much.
And that was his downfall, you know, back in 2020.
Yeah.
And my advice to him back then was, you know, get rid of Kushner, get rid of all these people.
And I think he's closer to that realization today.
But we can't rely on any one person.
This has got to be something that develops in the human spirit, where we fundamentally each understand and realize that we're in charge of our own destiny.
But we still need to galvanize.
You need to galvanize that.
You need a Joan of Arc to galvanize a movement.
You're leading.
I'm leading this thing.
There's millions of us out here now.
You know, we're getting increasing numbers of people who are saying no, who are willing to say We refuse to participate with this.
We refuse to allow this to happen.
And this is a movement that's going around the world.
I've created the Anti-Globalist Alliance.
I've written a book called the Anti-Globalist Manifesto.
I'm just beginning to publicize it.
And that book is called Ending the War on Humanity.
You know, it's the writing.
When Thomas Paine, you know, wrote about winter soldiers, and he wrote about, you know, one or two writings can change the world.
One or two sentences can change the world.
And so therefore, the resistance, the saying no, as more people join that, in their daily lives and participate and say individual
decisions.
I'm not going to go to this store. I'm not going to buy these brands.
I'm not going to have my kids go to this school. I'm not going to live in this community.
I'm not going to vote for this person. I'm going to contribute to this cause.
There are millions of decisions going to be made.
Do you think patriotic Americans are willing to die for the cause?
I think in the final analysis we may have to be willing to die for the cause because
the choice is going to be nuclear war and they'll kill us all anyway.
These people are not, these people are destructive.
They believe they're depopulationists.
Their aim and their goal is to kill millions of people and they will do so.
They will not hesitate to kill millions of people.
And so therefore, once we realize that, what's at stake here is the Bible.
What's at stake here is the fundamental right to live freely, not in a 15-minute city.
If we don't do this now, our destiny... The powers that be, the World Economic Forum, they have all the money, they've got all the power, they've got all the institutions in their control.
The odds are all in their favor, except that they're evil.
And Satan always misses a point, so he wants to depopulation us.
Well, he refused beforehand to get the agreement of billions of people that we wanted to be depopulationized.
I don't want to be de-euthanized.
I have two questions I want to ask you.
One I want to ask you, the last question is about God Five Stones, but before that I'm going to ask you a really stupid question.
Why don't they go back to voting the old-fashioned way, piece of paper and a pen?
Well, you know, I think that's a good idea, Daniel, but it's more complicated than that, because even those can be corrupted.
We're going to a society here of 150 million people in my lifetime to 350.
I remind people that a difference in size mathematically is a difference in phenomenon.
So take a bumblebee and to make it 10 times bigger, it doesn't fly.
The aerodynamics of a modern international super airliner is fundamentally different than the Wright brothers.
We're going to have to re-engineer our whole concept.
Elections around the world are so broken, the old World War II term, they're foobar.
They're so broken they cannot be repaired.
We've got to start over again.
We've got to start over again thinking how do we give people An individual number that's their vote that cannot be taken away and cannot be compromised and cannot be stolen.
We have the technology to do it.
You miss a credit card payment, they come after you.
Immediately.
Immediately.
Yeah.
So, you know, I'm in a joking fashion saying we should use the credit card technology to vote.
We should use the voting technology for credit cards.
I hope God hears us!
Jerome, we have enough time for one last question.
Tell us, please, what's God's Five Stone Foundation, Stones Foundation?
What can we do to help?
And anything else you want to promote?
Well, God's Five Stone, it's G-O-D, no apostrophe S, you spell out five, F-I-V-E, stones is plural, S-T-O-N-E-S, God'sfivestones.com.
Foundation is dedicated to producing integrity and it's revealing this New World Order ideology for the evil that it is.
And Daniel, you and I have been on this for decades.
We've known each other for decades.
Right.
Back to the Bilderbergers, when you were early on to it, I was early on to it.
We fought this battle for decades.
We're far more advanced in educating the public than we were when we first met 20 or 25 years ago.
Exactly.
You know, and we have audiences today that are... so contribute, even five dollars, ten dollars help.
Follow, just go to our website and get the content.
Get the content down and share the content with others.
I'm going to be doing more And in this coming year to advance these whole ideas to try to figure out an international solution to allow people to vote legitimately.
And there's got to be one, because we've got to take the technology out of the hands of the demon criminals.
If you let Satan run things, it's going to be the kind of mess we've got.
We've got to send Satan back to hell.
Knowledge that this is a spiritual war we're fighting, and the spiritual war can only be won by going back to fundamental values, and going back to God, and going back to the realization that we are all mortal.
We all live in this small little planet, like John Kennedy said, in my book, The Final Analysis on the Kennedy Assassination.
And, you know, we all want to die, cherished by our children and grandchildren, peacefully in our beds.
That's a human desire around the world.
These demons want perpetual war, they want perpetual disease, a perpetual famine, they want perpetual control, and they should be sent to perpetual hell.
We do not need these people in charge.
We need to reject them.
And I see signs, when I see Maloney saying, you know, that the governments are not running, the intelligence agencies are running the elections, the message is being heard.
When people hear it, they awaken up, their minds waken up.
I just trust in God that we will have a great awakening, and that we will have a great awakening that could be a new time in human history where we understand the power of delusion, the power of lies, the power of control, the power of people who want to have a small group You know, we're the Nazis and we control everything with the multinational corporations.
Well, it's the same thing Klaus Schwab wants today.
These people need to be sent to hell.
We need local control.
Anti-globalism.
I want an anti-globalism movement to sweep the world.
That's my goal for the rest of my life.
Jerome, thanks so much for joining us.
We're gonna have you back before the elections.
It's always a pleasure.
And count on me for anything, anything you need or want.
