Apostle Chuck Pierce and Pastor Jim Bakker outline a 1986 prophecy, updated in 2024, warning America faces a three-year "spirit of Leviathan" test (2025–2027), with 23 states potentially rejecting God while 21 remain faithful. Pierce ties this to Hezekiah’s story, predicting a remnant will rise by Rosh Hashanah 2027, especially in California and Florida. Their new book, Perspective, calls for unity among older and younger prophets to spark a "glory break-in," countering societal decay—without divine vision, they claim, nations perish. [Automatically generated summary]
And now, here are your hosts, Pastors Jim and Lori Baker.
Hello, everybody.
Jim Baker and Lori Baker.
This is so great to be here.
And we're back.
We're back forever.
Yeah, we are.
Until Jesus comes.
As long as the Lord wants us here, we're here.
I mean, I've said it many a time, but when I was 19, one of the great prophets of the world prophesied over me.
And I didn't know he's a great prophet until later on.
And he said, I would help usher in the coming of the Lord.
But we have Apostle Chuck Pierce here.
So I got to give him all the show today.
But can I read one scripture?
Sure.
I'm going to read the foundation for the sermon.
I'm going to preach all week long, okay?
Okay.
The spirit of Leviathan has come to America.
Do you know what Leviathan is, Lori?
Yes, that's right.
Twisting spirits.
Okay.
This know also that in the last days, perilous times shall come.
Mondo, that's the last day.
We are in the last days.
We are.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetousness, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disappearing, obedient to parents, unthankful, unholy.
Is that describing today?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Blasphemers.
Oh, my God.
Boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good.
Right.
I'll tell you, a prophet told me years ago that we're going to have civil war, and we're about to have one right now.
And we need to turn to God.
Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasure, despiser of those that are good.
Lovers of pleasure more than lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.
From such, turn away.
That's right.
They're saying good is evil and evil is good.
Right, that's it.
And I'm going to be preaching on this Leviathan spirit, which is roaring in America right now.
This is the most important sermon I've ever preached.
I preached it years ago.
God gave it to me from somebody else.
So that's why preachers get their messages.
But this message is just boiling inside of me.
And Minnesota, Minnesota used to be a wonderful state.
Now what's going on in there?
The people there have stolen $5 billion.
Over $9 billion.
$9 billion.
Is that right?
Yeah.
And you know, what's happening is you can have an idea of something, but the execution that is taking place is being redone right now.
I think for President Trump to be successful in what he's doing and what he wants to do, he has to go back to the drawing board and be able to execute properly.
Before I introduce our guest, I want to ask you one question, Mondo.
Are they not saying good is evil and evil good?
Sure, absolutely.
In every direction.
In every direction from technology to economics to cultural to religious formats, everything is being turned into something that is good.
But behind it, there's so much evil.
And then evil is being celebrated as good.
And we are living in a prophetic timeline that I want to tell you something.
Be careful who you listen to during these times.
That's why having a prophet today that is a seasoned proven prophet.
Can I say that?
A seasoned proven prophet.
Chuck Pierce is here in East from Corinth, Texas, Mondo.
Must be a biblical place.
As president of Glory of Zion International, he is author of the new book, A Perspective, A Prophet Vision for the Future.
A prophetic vision for the future.
Absolutely.
That's what we need.
So, Chuck, we're so happy to have you on the show today.
It is so good to see you three again.
I have missed seeing you.
It's been a nonstop season, and yet I looked forward to being with you guys.
And Mondo, it's great to see you.
Lori, it's great to see you.
It's good to see you.
We just had a discussion this morning on Leviathan.
You're okay.
Absolutely.
I cannot wait until I hear what you speak.
Well, I don't have time today, but I'm going to start tomorrow.
Could you talk about Leviathan a little bit?
Well, Leviathan is a structure that we need to understand.
Biblically, it's important to understand how for them to get out of Egypt, what was controlling them from getting out, the Bible tells us over in Isaiah, it was the Leviathan spirit that was holding them captive.
And it said God split it and tore it apart so they could go through into their promise.
I want to say to all of you, you need to listen to what Jim is going to be saying over this next week because that spirit has to be torn apart and separated for us to enter into the fullness of God's promise for this nation.
Chuck, when you look at today's headline and the global conflict and all that's going on, where are we in light of God's word?
Well, see, that's what this book is going to help you with.
This book, Perspective, I'm really excited with.
I've had several books since I've been able to be with you guys, but this book, perspective, is almost one of those must books to get because it shows you the importance of seeing beyond what you just see in the natural and how we have the clear perspective of what God's doing in the world around us.
And perspective, of course, the word means looking through.
How do you look through the current events and see God?
And that is so important for us to understand.
And this book, it shows you how God has taken me through the years to show me what would happen.
If you'll remember, one time on your show, I shared that the Lord visited me in 1986 and showed me in 10-year increments what would happen in 1996, 2006, and then 2016, and then 2026.
In November of 2024, I asked the Lord one question.
Can you show me beyond 2026?
And the Lord came down at three in the morning, awakened me with these words.
Extend time, Hezekiah.
And so I started going through and looking at Hezekiah immediately in the word of God.
I said, Lord, what are you saying here?
And God, this is what was so supernatural.
I got a call from Israel at 4 a.m.
And they said, we're having a prayer meeting here.
And the Lord told us to call you and say that he is saying Hezekiah to you.
It was that dramatic.
And I got to a place, remember when Sennacherib was trying to take out Hezekiah?
And you'll probably speak on Sennacherib sooner or later.
And he was trying to take him out.
And he had his Rab Shaka that was doing it.
And the prophet Isaiah, I got to this place in Isaiah.
And the prophet Isaiah said, what you see this year, you will see.
You'll see more of the same thing next year.
But in the third year, I will have a remnant that will go deep and come up into a new place.
And the Lord immediately fell on me and I said, Lord, that takes me back past what I have seen through 2026 all the way into Rosh Hashanah 2027.
And I want to say to you that we are living in a three-year window that we must see clearly, embrace the changes that the Lord's bringing in this nation, because this nation still has the greatest influence worldwide and move forward in these next three years.
So the message that you're bringing from this ministry that you have there, I decree right now, it is going to be clear and it is going to help people say we have to get into the fullness of what God's doing in this nation.
Amen.
Chuck your gift.
Thank you.
You're telling us that we're in the end times.
What part of Revelation do you think we're in?
Can you tell me that?
Season of reckoning that we're in.
Yes, I do believe we're living in that.
See, when you look at the history of the book of Acts, that was an account of history that God had for us.
But when you look at the visitation that the Lord brought to John on Patmos Island, it extended what he showed John is where we're living today.
So when you read the book of Revelation, you're going to find we are hitting certain milestones right now in our journey with the Lord.
Now, I think how I think we can extend time because the Lord says, redeem the time, walk circumspectly, redeem the time for days are evil.
I've got another book called Redeeming Time.
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That's the way I want to say it.
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God's Sorting Out Position00:12:41
And now, back to the show.
Chuck, we need to hear from you and what you're saying.
In many sense, a major transition, but don't know how to respond.
What are the signs a season has shifted?
That's why I wrote this book, because it's going to prepare people personally to rebuild the core within them spiritually.
And then they're going to be able to see in a different dimension and know how to turn to the right, turn to the left, know what they're really looking at, and the demonic force behind it are.
What we're looking for is a glory break-in in this nation.
We have to have a glory break-in in this nation in a way we've never experienced before.
Wow, that's good.
How are we going to have that when there's evil?
Well, because we're here, Jim, and we've got great authority.
And the Lord said, I will have a remnant that goes deeper in the third year.
By the time we get to 2027, now I'm a warrior.
By the time we get to 2027, I am decreeing a remnant will rise up in every state the way the Lord showed me.
I have that written in this book.
A remnant will rise up in every state and the state will change.
We talk about Minnesota when Dutch Sheets and I went to all 50 states and then we've been back.
I've been to every state probably three times since then.
Minnesota was one of the most difficult states in our nation.
And it's because there's a philosophy that governs that state that is contrary to what the Lord wishes for that state to really accomplish.
And I decree right now that we're going to see changes come in states like that, or else what's going to happen is what you said in the beginning.
We're going to have like 23 states that go with the Lord and we're going to have 21 that shift away from it.
And I decree there will be a remnant in every state that knows how to stand and decree that the glory of God will come into their state.
Yes.
I've heard prophets say that we're going to have civil war.
Do you think that?
Well, remember in 2008, when the Lord visited me at Liberty Park in New Jersey, he showed me only 21 states in covenant with him.
And 23 were not fully aligned with him.
And he said by 2024, he was going to start sorting that out.
Now, that's also written in this book.
I believe our nation is in a sorting out position right now where God is looking at every state and determining how that state is seeking him.
And I believe how they're responding to certain issues in their state and in their state boundaries is very, very key right now because it's either a response that causes the Lord to favor them or it's a response that's causing them to turn further away from the Lord.
The thing that that's going to affect are the next two generations in that state.
Because I know right now we have identified a small remnant in every state in America.
But I don't know that that remnant will fully remain as we keep moving forward in the strength that it needs to be for the awakening that God wants to bring to this nation.
And so the Lord showed me two states hanging in the balance.
One was Florida.
One was California.
Florida has shifted toward the Lord.
And I believe California is still hanging in the balance.
See, so many of our incredible moves of God have come out of California.
So it's not just an evil state.
It's a state.
And the way the Lord showed it to me, it had two roots.
It had a glory root and it had an evil root.
And they were vying for the control through the end of this year.
And I decree things are beginning to shift in California that will shift them back into a new move of God.
Yes, Jesus.
California had some of the greatest churches in the world.
I hope they still are there because I used to preach all over California.
And there were some great churches there.
And there still is great churches there.
And God wants to do a work where sin abounding grace is much more abound.
That's right.
And how do we get your book?
They can go to Monday Helmet.
Yeah, they can call us at 1-888-988-1588.
So they'll get it right from the publisher.
Yeah, right from the publisher.
And we can help you order the book as well.
Okay.
So go online to order your book today.
Listen, the message that he's given today, when you think about endurance, the Bible talks about it in Matthew 24, 13.
He who endures to the end shall be saved.
That remnant is going to go through a time of pressure.
And we're watching it right now.
And there's something amazing happening in the background with God's people that something is arising, but there's going to be a moment of endurance where we're going to have to hang on tight.
Stay close to the word.
Stay close to God's people.
I think about the New Testament church.
And the New Testament church is so important in the hour that we're in right now.
We're going to have to learn how to move together.
I remember years ago, you said this word that you gave a word in 1999 that the Lone Ranger ministries are not going to last.
Only the New Testament church together we're going to be able to prophesy together.
Together, we're able to stay in preparedness, especially in the hour that we're in right now, because God is raising a remnant right now where young men and young women are prophesying.
The older generation, you're dreaming dreams, and don't give up on your dream.
Don't give up on what God is giving you.
You know what, guys told me that He's going to raise up some of you.
How many feel you maybe are getting older?
Well, I have to say, yeah, a little bit for sure.
God's going to use you.
Amen.
Amen.
God's going to use the old people to preach, to pray, you know, to discipline.
Bishop has a saying that he brought to me years ago.
Yes.
Teamwork makes the dream work.
That's right.
Yes.
And, you know, we're building the store to open it next week.
Everything's going to be half price.
I mean it.
Jim Baker's back and he's going to do what he does because I'm going to do what God tells me to do.
And all that stuff sitting in my warehouse doesn't do a bit of good.
And we got to try to keep this ministry on the air.
Yes, yes.
Amen.
For this time.
I've been building Christian television for almost 100 years.
I'm not quite that old, but almost.
And I think it's time for us to have Christian television.
Not depressed, not go away.
It's time for God to have Christian television in America.
And I need your support.
And when you order the book today, perspective.
A prophetic vision for the future.
That's right.
Go online and get Chuck Pierce's book.
Yeah.
You can call us.
And part of that will support us.
Absolutely.
Get several copies today.
You can get a Baker's dozen and start a Bible study, perspective, a prophetic vision for the future.
You can call right now, 1-888-988-1588.
And I want whoever can to send a special gift to keep this ministry on the air.
We're on the edge, and I've been around for almost 100 years, but not quite.
But I am going to, I want to usher in the coming of the Lord, and Jesus is coming soon.
And you need to be ready.
We can't listen to the soothsayers and the evil people that are out there in the world today.
And Chuck, give me the last word for now, and I'm going to have you back.
This show's a half hour now, and I started two-hour shows, and I just don't like half-hour shows.
But I want your back if you win.
My final word for you.
And guys, it's again, it's so good to see all of you, Lori, Mondo, Jim.
And the word is: without a vision, a people perish.
That means they go backwards and finally have no voice.
I decree that you will be a people of vision in days ahead.
This book, perspective, will help you see that God still has a plan.
And without that prophetic unction, that's what the word vision means.
Without that prophetic unction, we will not move forward.
I decree right now, we are a people moving forward, and I decree PTL will move forward.
Yes.
In Jesus' name.
Amen.
Amen.
Oh, I want you to get the unction of the Holy Spirit.
Yes.
You know, I'm working in the store.
I worked there all day yesterday, and you worked too, Mondo.
You've been bringing stuff up from the warehouse.
And there's a little team, great people of God working with me.
We're not all dead.
You know, God's not dead.
And I'm Jim Baker's not dead.
He's still alive.
And the store is coming along really good, Mondo.
It is.
And next week, it's going to open at everything could be half price except for milk and bread.
Good.
And just daily stuff you need.
We want to see you here.
Visit us, stand with us, pray for us.
Yes.
And know that God loves you.
And if you don't know Jesus as your personal Savior, receive him today.
Yes.
The Bible says, confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, you shall be saved.
He will forgive you of your sins.
Call us.
We want to stand with you and pray with you and believe for a miracle for you and your family.
And Mondo, I just feel that I want people to move here and help us bring in the coming of the Lord.
And I think there's only 13 condominiums left in this building for sale.
You know what I mean?
They're beautiful.
Aren't they beautiful?
Absolutely.
They're just beautiful.
And you can come and see them.
And Mr. Crawford is starting a whole new village here of lower-cost housing, trying to fight the housing battle in this country and bring prices down.
And he's doing it.
Mr. Crawford is the man who started this with me.
And he's still alive and I'm still alive.
We're both 86.
It's amazing.
Lori, they're miracles.
And how old are you, honey?
I'm 68.
You're just a chick.
But Lori's with me and she's got a message.
It's been something.
You got to tell all you've been through.
Okay.
Because tell him God won't give up on you.
He doesn't give up on you.
And all I know is for me is the Lord has spoken to my heart this past year and a half or so.
It's just be still and know that I am God.
I pray he speaks that to you as well.
We love you.
We have to go.
We're here with you every day.
Jim and Lori.
The old folks are still alive.
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God loves you.
He does so much.
He does.
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