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July 24, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Steve Cioccolanti Part 2
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Key Word in Pledge 00:06:40
The PTL Television Network presents.
The Jim Baker Family Show.
Join us as we celebrate the 4th of July and Pastor Jim's 65th year in ministry.
Our special guests today are the founders of the PTL Television Network, Pastors Jim and Lori Baker.
Our guest today is Pastor Steve Chicolante.
Our co-host is Mondo de la Vega.
And now here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
You know, whenever Billy Graham passed away, you made a statement and said that no one would ever replace Billy Graham as an individual.
That's right.
there would be a couple of people who rise up for the Billy Graham anointing.
I'm going to have a list of six people I'll be anointing.
That's right.
Well, one of those people you said was Pastor Steve Chicolante.
That's hate that mantle.
No, I want to explain that because God said there wouldn't be one.
That's right.
There wouldn't be one great evangelist again.
One other Billy Graham again.
No Billy Graham.
But he said, I believe at least six men will take his place.
And God is anointing some of them.
And I know who several of them are.
And I'd like to tell you someday, but I'll wait.
Amen.
We have Pastor Steve Chicolanti with us.
He's the pastor of Discover Church.online, one of the largest online churches in all of Australia, but also a prophetic voice for today.
He now lives in the United States of America.
We saw him pledge his allegiance, so we're good to go.
He lives here in the great state of Florida, but travels and ministers.
Pastor Steve, what has the Lord been telling you during this time?
Well, I just wanted to take from Lori's prompting, the Pledge of Allegiance.
It's so apropos.
They sure exist.
One nation under God.
What don't they like about it?
We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God.
I think we kind of then stop there in our theology.
It's indivisible with liberty and justice.
And that's the message that God sent me to America to share, that for there to be a great reawakening in this nation, there has to be an awakening to something.
It's not just reviving so that we say, I'm sorry, Lord, I'm just going to be a better Christian.
You know, I used to be a good Christian.
I'm going to be better.
No, we're not going back to something.
We're awakening to something.
And the key word is actually in the Pledge of Allegiance.
It's the last concept.
It's justice.
Justice for all.
And that's what Jesus is coming back.
So we have to update our theology.
We don't have to change our theology, but I think we need to progress.
We learn love, grace, mercy, forgiveness.
These are all very important.
And I want to go back to what you said actually back in December 31st, 1999.
Sorry, 2019.
Oh, that was a good question.
Do you realize why you were given that on that date?
First, you said, the first thing you said, there were 31 prophecies.
So I want to acknowledge you as a prophetic voice for America, that you were given, because you are a redeemed channel of the Lord, the Lord is able to flow through you.
Not everybody is going to receive something from heaven, but you are pure and redeemed of God.
And so there's a channel, there's a voice there.
And you said something that it just, I can't even, I would take two hours to explain how important this is.
The first thing the Lord gave you is the four horsemen of the apocalypse are worldwide events.
You said that on the 31st of December, 2019.
And in my timeline, I would take hours to explain, and some people will disagree until I explain it.
But on January 2020 began a worldwide COVID pandemic.
That's right.
And you said a worldwide event, and you said through the Spirit, the horsemen are connected.
But we're a bit shy to then say, wait a second, could the horsemen in Revelation?
But we have a theology that they couldn't possibly be galloping unless the Antichrist has appeared or the tribulation has started.
And so we've put all these conditions on it that's not there.
It's not in the text.
We have a great mixed up.
Yes.
Gospel Revelation.
Yes, we're finding out in the end.
I've been trying to miss out so much that it's so clear.
But the fact that I've been saying this, I've been preaching this for probably at least 10 years, maybe 15 years, that the horsemen are not what we think.
They are worldwide events, and they started on January 20th, even though the tribulation hasn't started, even though the Antichrist hasn't taken over the world.
And I just realized sitting here on your 65th ministry anniversary that the Holy Spirit gave that to you on the last day before the horsemen were released.
You're right.
He did.
That's amazing that you're not going to be able to do that.
I mean, not just the message, but the absolute precise timing of when you release that is a prophetic message that now we're in 2025 and we're still having to go back six years later to tell the world, this is what, number one, this is what the prophet has spoken.
Number two, this is what Revelation chapter six has said.
And if we would then adjust our timeline, we're not saying everything was wrong.
We're not saying throw out everything.
We're saying just update, given that there's progressive revelation, more light as we are getting closer to the coming of our Lord.
Can we just update?
If we have the timeline right, that changes everything.
Right.
We're in peace.
You know, we know.
I mean, if you knew, right, if you knew Apple stock, Tesla stock was going to go up to 300 when it was 50 cents.
If you had that timing, if you had that keen insight, you would be chill.
You would be relaxed because you'll just put 1,000, 2,000 at 50 cents and watch that grow to a million dollars.
You'd be very chill.
Knowing the timing is everything in life.
The older you get, the more you realize that.
Prayers, Prophecies, and Timing 00:10:19
Timing is everything.
You can do the right thing.
Jim Baker.
Isn't that the truth, guys?
Who wants to back me up and say a big amen?
Now watch this.
With this man, timing is everything.
Now, you say all the things that we know you're famous for.
You know, you got to get water filters.
Spring water will be important.
Long-term food storage will be easier for people to access, which is true.
Some of the Christians that are supplying that, but they won't fully understand that till I believe within two years.
They're going to understand why.
Within a year and a half.
Within a year and a half.
We don't have two years.
Oh, you're cutting me short.
Yeah.
I'm sorry to do that, but I'm very adamant that.
No, I trust your interpretation of the word.
So we've got a limited time, but we're at the same time.
Very, very limited.
Very limited.
If we hadn't had, forgive me, can I say Trump on TV or not?
Amen.
Are we allowed to talk about the cheaper president?
Because you're wearing his cap.
So I think you're president of the United States.
We love you, President Donald J. Trump, and we pray for you and Melania and all of your children and all of the administration.
Every single day we plead the precious blood of Jesus over you.
But America would be in a biggest mess it's ever been in if Trump hadn't been elected.
Yeah.
And there's people who are hoping he will fail.
And they're going to try.
They're going to pray for our prisoner because they don't want him to fail.
They want to kill him.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Am I wrong?
May I say, I have probably the only Christian book in the world that has a chapter on prayer against assassination.
We prayed for 1,369 days against assassination for Donald Trump specifically.
And on July 13th, they called me and said, watch the news, what happened?
And that bullet missed him.
And it was on my YouTube as well.
We got 2 million views on that four months before it happened.
It's a prophecy on my YouTube channel that it would hit his right ear.
He would go down with blood flowing down his face and he would rise up a different man.
You did not know that?
Oh, yeah.
We had the prophecy.
We had the prophecy that Trump would win in 2015 before he was a Republican nominee.
We have a prophecy to the day of when Biden would drop out of the U.S. presidency.
To the day.
We had a prophecy one day before October 7th.
It's all time stamped.
The Lord is very accurate.
And the Lord wants us to know when we saw that, when Trump was, when it grazed him in the ear, God wants everybody to know what does that mean?
He has stepped into the scene.
He has stepped into American history.
He's back and he's watching over this nation.
Because we changed the way we prayed.
We didn't just pray meek prayers anymore.
Trump just turned.
He just turned.
Yeah.
An angel would have just did that to us.
It would have gone through his head.
Yeah.
And he'd be dead.
He would be dead.
And we wouldn't even be sitting here.
Everything would be changed.
They'd probably censor what we're saying.
Oh, they are.
They censored us on social media.
They would censor them.
They censor me all the time.
And I'm so old.
I don't care anymore.
But they put me in prison.
They did all kinds of things.
But you have the only chapter in this book.
Is this your brand new book?
Please forgive me, Steve, because I'm just showing up and being here because I'm home taking care of Jim.
But wow.
So this went number one.
I want this book now.
This went number one for at least a month on Amazon.
Get Prayers Answered.
You can have that.
Thank you, Steve.
Get Prayers Answered.
30 years of answered prayers.
30 years.
And I want, Ricky, to put it on our phone number so they can order that.
Yeah, we'll put it up on the screen.
But this is through, we have an affiliate program with your church, Discover Church Online.
You can go click that, and you have all of your resources there for people to be able to order.
You can get it.
That's right.
Forgive me, but I want to plug both books.
This, I've never, I haven't read this yet.
I just read the headlines.
Trump's unfinished business, 10 prophecies to save America.
These are prophecies for Trump.
They are.
They would have saved him a lot of people.
And people need.
Do you like to know what's coming?
Do you like to know the future?
Yes.
That's what this man does.
He really has a look into the future.
How can I say that?
But you're a prophet of God.
You're a man of God.
You understand the word.
You interpret the word.
And it's one of the as I said before, you are one of the Billy Graham replacements, but you're going to rise to very importance to the church.
And that's why, right now, I want you to get these books, both books.
Right.
And Trump's unfinished business, 10 prophecies to save America, and get prayers answered.
That's what we need.
We need to get our prayers answered.
We don't need to pray prayers that don't get answered.
It hurts our faith.
It does hurt our faith.
We have to prep ourselves.
We have to not rush into prayer.
We have to be ready.
It's like rushing into marriage.
You don't want to do that.
You want to prep.
You want to prep, you want to be ready?
People want to know.
And then you pray.
If they want to know the future, they've got to read about it.
There's so much about this.
Many things have already been fulfilled.
Many things that he didn't do really hurt him.
The last four years, I wish he had spent the time to read this.
I know he's got a lot on his plate.
Well, there's a friend watching that knows Trump into me.
And I wish I just ordered this book from Trump and let him read it.
He's a busy man, but he's not too busy for God.
Believe me.
He's an agent of justice.
What sparked such division about Trump is that he's an agent of justice.
He's almost like a prefigure for us.
Okay, now this is going to be very controversial for people, but why are we so divisive?
Because one day Jesus will come and he says he will bring division between father and son, mother, daughter, in-laws, between each other.
And we can't imagine that.
We think, no, Jesus is our friendly neighbor, very nice guy.
And yet he said he brings division.
And so just before his second coming, we have a man who brings division in houses and neighborhoods across every state, no matter what they are, red, white, blue.
There's such a division.
And you think, why is this happening?
Because we're getting a taste of what is going to come very soon.
When Jesus comes, a lot of people are going to be like, well, this is not the Jesus that my denomination presented to me.
It's not the Jesus I thought I signed up for.
Can you make it really clear?
There's false prophets.
The Antichrist is coming.
And I'm going to say something.
Can I preach with you a minute?
Let's tag team.
Do you know what they did in New York?
They elected first go-round a communist, socialist, against all the things that we believe as Americans.
And if we don't stand up, America is going to collapse.
And in times, and I'll be preaching on it soon, but on that, it's coming.
We're in the last days.
Do you believe that?
Well, not only do I believe it, you said it on the date that the four horsemen would be worldwide events.
And so we have worldwide conflict.
Peace is taken from the earth.
The red horse is peace is taken from the earth.
The Hebrew is Eretz, which is a clue already that it would happen in Israel.
It would surprise the IDF.
Israelis would be kidnapped by the hundreds.
None of these things had happened before.
So these are signs of the red horse.
Why is there conflict?
Trump promised when he comes in the first day he's going to be able to end the Russia-Ukraine war.
And I said, Well, if he's right, he's right.
But according to the prophecy and the timeline, he can't do it.
With good heart, with good intention, he'll do it.
And he keeps doing it, but actually, he's now going against God's plan because he should have finished Iran.
Wow.
That's right.
See, he doesn't, timing is everything in life, timing.
Yep.
You can't do, you can do the right thing at the wrong time.
It's still the wrong thing.
And so he's trying to be, you know, a Nobel Prize winner at a time when God has given us the opportunity to just bring peace to the middle, to bring terrorism to an end, that kind of peace, a peace that's preceded by justice.
And then we could bring the gospel.
The whole point is God looks, God's not looking at politics.
God's looking at, look at all the Christians.
His children have been persecuted, have been incarcerated, have been murdered, right, in the Islamic in Iran, in the dictatorship, we should say, of Iran.
And he wants to free those people.
He wants to give them justice.
And dropping just a few bunker busters is not going to finish it.
They're going to come back.
And so he needs to know the timing.
So you said that.
You said that.
That was the first one.
And let me go to, I'm going to skip 31 things that you said.
Well, no, I'm not going to skip it because this is great.
You said number 25.
Whatever you are called to do, do it now.
That's right.
Whatever you are called to do, do it now.
Beautiful Children Anointing 00:06:42
We don't have time to play that.
The subtext is.
Now.
Yeah.
So if you know you have a calling of God and you're playing with it and you're thinking, well, I can sin, I can compromise, I can delay, people procrastinate.
And you said, now is the time.
That's when the Lord said to me, move to America.
I had just built my dream home.
I got four kids.
Every one of them have their own bedroom with their own ensuite, with their own bathroom.
I said, they can live with me until they're grown and get married.
I said, I'm ready.
I'm ready for whatever comes.
I got solar panels, water tanks.
I got everything ready.
We moved in three months, and the Lord said, You will be moving out of here.
Three months.
So you were in Australia.
I was in Melbourne, Australia, living where you built your dream home.
Dream home.
Everything, four children, big church, yes.
Wonderful, everything.
Can I ask you before you leave?
But there's what I want you to have all your wife, not all your wives, just one.
Your wife and all your kids on the show.
You want to see them?
I do.
Sorry, everybody.
Honey, honey.
I'm back.
Just leave me alone.
Change that story.
Change that story.
He's feisty, guys.
Get ready.
No, I know what these people want.
The truth.
They want to see your kids.
All right.
Where are you, kids?
Where are you, beautiful?
I see him working.
They're working.
Come on up quickly.
Come on.
I met your firstborn.
Oh, my gosh.
I've been working.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
Come to the front here.
Come to the front, sweetie.
Come to here.
Here.
Let me.
Hello.
Look at here.
Look at her.
Oh, my goodness.
This is number four.
Oh, you are so beautiful.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
This is number three.
Beautiful wife.
There's my wife.
What's your wife's name?
Karen with a skin, like a caring person.
And this is going to be the new prophet right here.
This boy.
This boy right here.
This is Austin.
Austin, come on up.
Honey, let the boy come forward.
Have you got something to say?
Say it to me.
Do you want to talk for a minute?
Well, I'm glad to be here, and it's a blessing to see my dad and serve the Lord.
Yeah, just I want to ask you something.
Do you know God's hand is upon you?
Yes.
Amen.
See, I know it.
I knew it the minute I saw you.
Amen.
God is going to, this is your heir apparent.
My own.
And he's my heir parent.
He's going to be here.
And this girl has a special anointing.
Everybody who meets her says that.
And she's got a work to do.
This is Alexis.
Say hello, Alexis.
And Alexis, don't let the devil defeat you.
Don't let boys come and get you.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean, they're not like your life.
Your beautiful wife.
You can't believe that.
Karen with a seat.
He's got his whole family in person.
Step forward.
Well, it's our honor.
What an honor this is for us.
This is for us.
They've known you for years, but they have never met your whole family.
And there's four kids and a beautiful mama.
Amen.
Amen.
Do you want to say something?
Praise the Lord.
We're so happy to be here.
We honor you, Pastor Jim.
Yeah, we look up to you and we honor you.
We thank you for imparting to the children.
It means a lot to them.
Back in the green room, you were speaking prophecy to the kids and you were just spot on.
Oh, my.
You were imparting, like, we need your anointing.
We need your gift.
We need your wisdom.
And every time you speak, it just blesses us.
Amen.
Well, I'll tell you.
I just, I'm going to pray and plead the blood of Jesus over this family.
Yes.
Because the devil don't like this.
The devil hates our families.
He hates family life and everything.
And he wants to bust it up, but he can't do it.
He can't do it.
And these are beautiful children.
Got two girls sitting on your lap.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
Oh, my.
I wanted them to meet your family.
Is that all right?
They are.
I'm taking over Ricky.
This is a beautiful family.
This is huge for us because Steve always comes here by himself and travels and all that.
And so we've never met.
I've never met his wife.
I've never met his children.
This is so huge for us.
And I hope for you.
But this girl in the green room and she is so anointed.
She has an amount.
I mean, I touched her and I was like, oh, my gosh, the anointing is all.
She is so anointed and called by God.
Amen.
Yeah.
Don't let the devil discourage any one of you because he's always after God's people.
Just say, no, no way.
Everyone out there, it's time to say, God, I'm with you.
I do it every day.
I talk to God.
That's all I do.
I talk to Lord a little bit, not too much.
But I talk to God every day, and I'm going to share some of the things God told me.
Amen.
Okay, how about these two right here?
How adorable are they, everybody?
Oh, my goodness.
Look.
Oh, my goodness.
Say hello to her.
Say hello.
Now, was she talking the mic, you think?
What's your name?
No?
Okay.
No, you're name.
What's your name?
Say clearly, baby.
Ray.
Oh, you're not like that.
You are just embarrassed right now.
It's okay.
You are so beautiful.
Ray.
Amber Ray.
Amber.
She's a Ray of Amber.
Time's running out.
Honey, it's only a 30-minute show.
So, kids, Mama, thank you for letting us be with your family.
I want you to tell, I want to tell you something.
This is your greatest asset you have in the world.
God's Plan for Life 00:05:23
Thank you.
It's your family.
Thank you.
And they should be with you all the time.
And it's time for them to be on TV with you, too.
He was almost done with the story.
He's right in the middle of it.
You were saying the Lord had given you your dream home.
Oh, yeah.
So whatever you're called to do, do it now.
It took us two years, really, from that word to come here.
Legally, it's really hard to come here.
Whatever you're called to do, do it now.
Do not let anger kill you.
You said this.
Forgive one another and live in forgiveness.
That's your next book.
You prophesied your next book in this word in 19, sorry, 2019.
But here, look at this.
These cities and locations will be affected by judgment.
And you name 11 places.
And the weird thing is, you named the city where I was born as the last thing, the last of your prophecy is my, no, Bangkok, Thailand.
And Bangkok.
Do you see a city there?
I'm going to tell you the cities.
Do we have time?
New York starts it off with New York.
Well, New York, obviously, what's going to happen?
9-11.
Real troubles.
And more.
Okay, we only have a couple minutes, so let's let Steve tell us.
New York City.
I'm going to tell you what you preached.
I'm just giving it secondhand.
You're the firsthand.
Long Island.
So New York, New York, New York twice.
Several North New Jersey towns.
Los Angeles.
Boy, Los Angeles has been judged.
Like more than the riots, like a rebellion over there.
Long Beach.
I'm going to tell something in my sermon about LA.
It's going to shock everybody.
I'm sorry, honey.
I don't mean to.
No, but I want to hear what Steve.
I love to preach with preachers.
No, I know, but we want to hear what Steve is saying that you said.
Please.
You said Santa Ana.
So California has got it three times.
New Orleans, Louisiana, Washington, D.C.
Then you skipped and you went worldwide.
You said Tel Aviv.
Tel Aviv.
Do you know what Tel Aviv is?
It's the capital of homosexuality in the Middle East.
That's right.
What did you say?
You said it?
Yeah.
Most people don't know that.
I don't know that.
I go in the Middle East all the time.
I take people on tours to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Turkey.
I know.
Did you all know in Israel?
Tel Aviv is a homosexual capital, really, of the world.
Yeah.
They don't even have a constitution that follows the Torah.
We love Israel, but they never even used the Bible to create their constitution.
They're a nation without any constitution right now.
So there's a lot going on that Jesus needs to come and redeem.
Right?
It's God's beloved people.
Now, you said Puerto Rico.
Who's from anyone from Puerto Rico?
We love Puerto Rico.
So I don't know what that's going to be.
Hurricanes, tsunamis.
And then you finished it off at the place that the Lord had me born.
I was born in Bangkok, Thailand.
I lived in America, in Canada, and France.
Nobody told me the gospel in any of these countries.
I went back to Bangkok, Thailand, a 99% unsafe country, and I was approached by six different people trying to persuade me to get saved.
So I was born in Thailand, born again in Bangkok, Thailand, and maybe one day I will give my life to the nation of Thailand.
I'd rather be out in the mission field, honestly, than on TV, selling books.
I love it.
God's called me to do it.
But my heart is, let's get the law safe.
Yes.
Let's get the law safe.
Let's go where people haven't heard the gospel before.
And you prophesied the last judgment comes to Thailand.
I don't mind going there when it happens, and I'll be preaching for them to get saved, turn to Jesus, turn to the only savior.
And if you don't, we have to go now.
But if you don't know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, now is the time.
Amen.
Right, Steve?
It's going to be too late.
No better time.
No better time.
You've had so many warnings, so many signs.
Now's the time to say, Lord, I give up my own ways.
I surrender my life to Jesus.
Please, I don't want to just do church.
I want to follow God's plan for my life, and there's not a second to waste.
And what we would like for you to do is call the number right now, 1-888-988-1588, or visit our website, jimbakershow.com, and stand with us.
And let's do it together.
Let's not only preach the gospel, but let's win some souls together.
Would you do that this month?
It's going to bless you.
It's going to bless this ministry.
And it's going to continue to help us to move.
The moment we started with, you know, the 700 klumino, it was a monthly pleasures that kept us going.
That's right.
And I just pray people will stand behind us.
The time is running out.
That's right.
We've got to give the gospel out.
So call us right now at 1-888-988-1588 or go to jimbakershow.com website and just do it.
Just do it, really.
We love you.
Bye-bye.
God loves you.
Watch him?
He really does.
God loves you.
He really does.
We love you.
I want to thank you for standing with us and for your support.
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