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The Jim Bakker Show with Carl Gallups and Dave Robbins
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2025 Ready Now Expo: Aliens, AI & Antichrist 00:04:26
Is the truth stranger than fiction?
Are there forces that are shaping the fate of humanity?
Today, we discuss aliens, AI, and the Antichrist with authors, experts, and biblical teachers.
Welcome to the 2025 Ready Now Expo, Aliens, AI, and the Antichrist.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the Jim Baker Family Show.
I was going to add the family.
He told me the other day, I said, it's just Jim Aker show.
He goes, you didn't add it.
We changed the name.
It's the Jim Baker Family Show.
Because we are the family of the family.
We're just that.
Yeah.
That's it.
Today we have an exciting broadcast for you.
We have Reverend Dave Robbins.
He's the son-in-law of the late Dr. Irvin Baxter.
He's also an end times prophecy teacher and editor of the End Time magazine.
He's also the show, a host of the show, the End Time Show TV, and it's a radio program as well.
Spent many years doing radio.
The end time show can be seen on the PTL television network Sundays at 11 a.m. and 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
We also have Pastor Carl Gallup Sr., pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida.
He's an Amazon top 60 best-selling author.
And his latest book, Eyes to See, is our world ready for the coming visitation.
Stunning revelations from the Word of God that help make sense of our epic and prophetic times.
We're going to have those two mighty men of God join us on this broadcast.
Amando, what a good day we have started off.
This is day one.
If you're just now tuning in, day one, show two of the Ready Now Expo 2025.
We kicked it off with a wonderful seminar with Vicki Joy Anderson.
We've had an incredible first show.
This is number two.
Go to readynowexpo.com.
You can watch video on demand.
You can see it all.
But friends, you're about to watch a video that is going to show you exactly the hard questions we're asking, and we are going to get answered from a biblical perspective.
Is the Antichrist alive right now?
Because when he comes, he's coming.
It's just we will have all been prepared.
The hearts are ready, all prepared for his revelation.
Will artificial intelligence control our lives?
Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man.
I suspect that organic or biological evolution has about come to its end.
Are aliens real?
And have they already visited our planet?
What the American people need to know is that the U.S. military and intelligence community are sitting on a huge amount of visual and other information.
High res.
High resolution.
The most intelligent inhabitants of that future world won't be men or monkeys.
They'll be machines.
The world is changing at a rapid pace.
And the biggest questions of our time demand answers.
Why the secrecy if it's really no big deal and there's nothing there?
Why hide it?
Join us for Ready Now Expo 2025.
Aliens, AI, and the Antichrist, where faith, preparedness, and revelation collide.
Are we entering the final frontier of humanity?
Very soon, we will be beyond the God of the Bible.
Visit www.readynowexpro.com today and be ready for what's coming next.
Friends, welcome to the Ready Now Expo 2025.
We're excited to have our special guest, Reverend Dave Robbins here with us, Mondo, and also Pastor Carl Gallup.
This two men, I don't think you guys have been on the same stage.
Never haven't.
And we might not be invited back.
No fighting.
No, I'm kidding.
Hey, no fighting, man.
No fighting.
No, it's incredible, man.
Hey, friends, we're going to start this show off.
I'm going to tune this into the right area.
Then we're going to get diving into these topics, aliens, AI, and the Antichrist.
I'm going to ask them some questions.
See where we all stand on these subjects.
But friends, open up your Bible to 2 Timothy chapter 3.
And I'm going to start with just verse 1, Mondo, right here.
It says, but know this, hard times will come in the last days.
And friends, I believe we're living, if not in the last days, very, very close to them.
Avoid False Teachings 00:15:15
We're at the final boarding call, you could say.
For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, proud, demeaning, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, slanders without self-control.
Brutal, without love for what is good, traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding on to a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.
Avoid these people.
Friends, I want to tell you right now, get in a good Bible-believing church.
Because when you're in a good Bible-believing church that is passionate, that loves Jesus Christ, you may have some strife every once in a while.
We're human beings.
You may have some disagreements every once in a while.
We're human beings.
But friends, these people won't be there if the Holy Spirit is present and moving and filled in a congregation.
Pastor Carl, we went to your church in Milton, Florida, Hickory Hammock Baptist Church.
An incredible time.
Mondo got to speak there a few weeks, and then a few weeks later, I showed up.
No, he wouldn't let me.
No, he asked.
He begged.
He had me preach.
He said after Mondo, I barely can preach.
He gave me the microphone.
He came up and took it back.
He said, I'm going to finish my sermon last week.
Praise God.
No, it's a good time.
But, you know, the Holy Spirit people, they're loving people.
They were incredible people.
Yeah.
They came up and said, your brother preached really good.
Are you going to preach?
And I said, Pastor Carl won't let me.
That's right.
I was driving through and I thought, you know what?
If I'm going to go to church anywhere, I'm going to go out of my way a little bit to be a pastor.
The first thing you did was sabotage my ministry.
I did.
That's right.
And every day I've been to your church, too.
We've been down there.
And the name of your church is in Texas, right outside of Dallas, and it's called North Cities, United Pentecostal.
That's right.
North Cities, United Pentecostal.
An incredible church.
I got a warm welcome there as well.
Incredible men and women of God.
So if you're in those two areas, if you're in the Florida region, want to go and visit Hickory Hammock Baptist, you can do that.
Or if you want to go to North Cities right outside of Dallas, Texas, I encourage you both churches that I love.
They love the Holy Spirit.
And friends, they stay true to the word of God.
That's important in the times we're living in.
It is not time for opinion theology where the pastor gets up there and exhorts you for 60 minutes out of the book of 2 Ethians chapter 3, verse 17.
No, we need the word of God preached in the times that we're living in because we believe that this is the foundation we can stand on.
If you go and look at Matthew chapter 7, we see there are two homes being talked about by Jesus.
There's one built on a firm foundation and one not built on a firm foundation.
They say sinking sand.
The same trials came to both homes.
The same tribulations came to both homes.
The water rose, the wind tried to knock down the house.
But the only difference between the two houses were the foundation.
So friends, look down today and say, what am I standing on?
What is my foundation?
Ensure that it is the word of God and only the word of God.
And if it is, I promise you, trials can come, tribulations can come, hard times can come, that you will not be shaken because you're standing on that rock.
You're standing on Jesus Christ and the word that the Holy Spirit inspired to give us.
Fix your eyes on Jesus.
Come on.
Hebrews 12.
That's right.
You can plug it into Google and ask a question about theology.
Sometimes there's some good stuff, but boy, sometimes it takes a lifting.
We were just told on show one that the first artificial intelligence church was opened up in Los Angeles.
Friends, be weary of that.
That's not a fearful position to take.
But friends, artificial intelligence, I'm telling you, can't do what a good pastor can do whenever he spent time on a space with the Lord and said, God, give me revelation of your word.
It says in the New Testament very clearly, we have a more sure word.
It's right here.
Make sure everything that's being taught to you lines up with the word of God.
Believe in the Brean test.
So, anyways, we're going to ask you guys a bunch of questions, and then we're going to immediately fact-check it.
Hey, listen, you ask, and we're all going to get your Bibles out.
We're going to make sure they're aligning.
I want to ask you.
Oh, no, I'm afraid.
That's right.
Reverend Dave, I want to ask you this.
How important is it for us to understand the times that we're living in?
Sure.
So, number one, before we start, thank you guys for having us up here.
And I think that signs of the times right now, we need programs like this where people can really hone in and say, okay, where are we at?
What are we doing?
What are we doing here?
The second coming of Jesus Christ is just around the corner, and I need to know what's coming.
The Bible says the sons of Issachar were men who had understanding of the times to know what Israel ought to do.
Number one, there is, like you said, that AI and these internet preachers and things like that, I think that they, I question why they're doing what they're doing.
Yeah.
Because when they're teaching something false, you know, Jesus said, I tell you these things before they come to pass, that when they come to pass, you'll believe.
That's right.
But if I teach you something false and it never comes to pass, then what?
You're leading people astray.
Amen.
So I would encourage you guys to fact check us today.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Fact check us.
Thank you.
Because there's the fact check right there.
That's right.
Mondo's got it in his hands.
Here it is.
And so, amen.
You got to look this way now because my eyes are getting older.
The signs of the time, it's very important that people follow that because it puts a sense of urgency in people.
I know that your church, I think it's called 2414 now or something like that.
That's right.
Well, the Bible says this gospel of the kingdom will be preached to the whole world, then the end would come.
That's right.
Right there at the end, there's going to be a sense of urgency in the church to preach and teach the gospel.
And he put the churches in evangelism mode.
I'm in churches all over the United States.
I've been everywhere.
I feel like Johnny Cash.
I've been everywhere, man.
But the thing is, is that I see a lot of churches that are not in evangelism mode.
And that's a jarring thing for me because right here in the end, all that matters is evangelism, evangelism.
And if you understand the prophecies, it can put you in that mode.
If you think we're just ambling along through life, some kind of, there's no sense of urgency to it.
But if you understand the times, then you're like, oh, man, I got to get this done because Jesus Christ is coming soon.
So it takes you out of a state of lethargy and puts you in an evangelistic mode in a sense of urgency.
I got to get this done.
And all of our ministry should be devoted to that.
I'm not doing this to sell books and DVDs and make money.
That's not my goal.
Absolutely.
My goal is to prepare people for the soon return of Jesus Christ.
Because everybody in this room, everybody listening, is going to face that.
Not one person is going to escape that.
So we probably ought to prepare.
Those are some of the reasons why the signs of the times, it gives a sense of urgency to me to do that.
Amen.
Pastor Carl, follow that up.
Well, I will.
And Paul makes it clear.
He says the Holy Spirit clearly reveals that in those last days.
And again, you guys don't set dates.
We don't set dates.
But we do know the word of God.
We do know the signs of our times, like God tells us.
Jesus tells us.
Know the word in context and know the signs, see what's happening.
And then you'll know about where you are and what's going and how to prepare yourself and how to prepare the church.
So, but Paul says in the last days, there will be doctrines of demons that will come.
Now, look, we're the first generation.
There's always been doctrines of demons.
Watch this.
Since the Garden of Eden, Satan stepped in and gave, let me give you a doctrine.
You surely shall not die.
God thinks you can be like, I mean, God thinks that you might be able to be like us.
And you know that.
Well, so there's where it started.
But the bottom line is we're the first generation in humanity to be living in the digital age of 24-7 communication information systems so that that can be used like this ministry and others that are that are credible ministries to get truth out and the word out and to get people's attention.
But it's also used by the enemy.
That's right.
And so what's happening, everybody on the internet thinks they're a theologian.
And now we've got the AI thinking it's a theologian.
So you've got all of this conglomeration, so many doctrines of demons.
And so I tell folks, listen, it's important that we take Paul's word at heart.
Study to show yourself approved, able to accurately handle the word of God.
That's right.
And that means contextually, not isogetically reading into it, but exegetically taking out the full meaning after you do some understanding of the words and the nuances of the words, the connection to all the other scriptures.
And then, then you bring that truth to your people.
And a lot of that is just not being done by and large in most of the church today by the admission of the pastors, conservative evangelical pastors that have taken all of these surveys, Pew Pole, what's the guy's name that does Barnapole.
And they show over and over and over that the pastors are poorly equipped in the word.
Therefore, the people are poorly equipped in the word.
And so that's what Paul was talking about.
And now 24-7, this stuff is out there.
That's right.
You know, it says right here in 1 Timothy chapter 4, it says, Now the Spirit explicitly says in the later time, some will depart from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and the doctrines of demons through the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared.
They forbid marriage and demand abstinence from food that God created to be received with gratitude by those who believe and know the truth.
For everything is created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, since it is sanctified by the word of God and by prayer.
Yes.
And that word latter times that's translated into English, in the Greek, that word means the last days.
Amen.
I mean, especially in that context.
And then when you consider the scripture you started with, chapter 3, and it clearly says the last days.
So chapter 4 is just following up.
And he uses that Greek word, which means the last days.
That's right.
I'm amazed.
And let me state this in this moment.
I am amazed, pastors, how many preachers.
Now, we are all preachers up here, so we're going to pick on the preachers.
Amen.
I am amazed how many preachers don't understand that they're cursing themselves by preaching another gospel.
Galatians.
Exactly.
You know your Bible.
I do.
I used to travel with Pastor Jim where he was speaking all over the world, and I will sit next to him.
And we will stay another day to hear the pastor preach.
And Pastor Jim would sit there with his Bible.
And I said, are you not paying attention?
He goes, no, I'm making sure he's preaching the gospel.
And he would turn around and say, he's wrong.
That's wrong.
That's not Bible.
That's not Bible.
This is what the Bible says.
As we have said before, I now say again, this is Galatians chapter 1.
If anyone is preaching you a gospel different to what you receive, a curse be on him.
Preacher, tell me what that means.
Right, simply.
Well, Jesus said when they asked him in Matthew 24, what's the sign of your coming of the end of the age?
He said, take heed that no man deceive you, for many will even come in my name, deceiving you.
There will be people, there will be people that have the word Christian on the sign-out door of their church in the end times, but they won't be teaching the truth.
They'll be leading people astray in the diametric direction.
Some of these churches today, well, okay.
Pastor Gallup talked about doctrines of devils.
The Bible says specifically to forbid to marry is a doctrine of the devil.
It says it right there in that passage that he quoted to forbid to marry.
Are there any churches that are forbidding to marry today?
Yeah.
That's a doctrine of the devil.
Or have they missed marriage?
Right.
So there are people that there are churches that are going completely sideways.
And when you go sideways, you can't teach the original gospel and still follow down that path.
Come on.
So there are people that are being bought and paid for.
I call them prostitute preachers.
Now, I know this is heavy, but this is, we're right here in the end time because we're dumb.
We're done with stepping through the tube, walking through the tulips now.
Tiny tastes.
And so what we're doing now is, is I've got to stand.
There are people that have paid for this with their life for thousands of years.
And for me, as a pastor in these last days to say, well, maybe what Jesus taught and the apostles taught wasn't right.
I think I'm going to teach this because it sounds good.
What I'm doing is I'm trying to get people to heaven.
And what you're going to do when you win a soul, you're pulling people out of Satan's kingdom and you're putting them in God's kingdom.
And that's what we're trying to do here.
And I've got to teach the true gospel of Jesus Christ that he taught and the apostles taught.
If I move off of that, the Bible says I will be accursed and I'll be held accountable to that come judgment day.
That's right.
And I'm not willing to stare God in the face someday and say, well, I know what you said in your word, but to get a 10,000-person church, I'm going to teach this.
Not doing that.
I want to get people to heaven.
What does it say right here?
It says in Revelation 22, it's the word of God, friends.
It says, for I testify to everyone who hears the words of this prophecy, if anyone adds to them, God will add the plagues that are written in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, which are written about in this book.
Friends, I am not willing to let my opinion get in the way of heaven.
I'm not willing to let my opinion of anything get in the way of being with Jesus for eternity.
I've said it many times in a trillion years in heaven, you'll have the cognitive reasoning ability to understand you have just scratched the surface of eternity with Christ.
But on the exact opposite way, if you are separated from him eternally, a trillion years away from him, you'll have the cognitive reasoning ability to understand, my goodness, separation from God has just scratched the surface of eternity.
That's why we plead for you to know Jesus Christ.
You mean, Brother Dave, that not everyone that says, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father.
Which is first to come to Jesus Christ and be born again.
And secondly, to rightly divide the word of truth, particularly if you're going to be teaching or preaching.
That's right.
But even as a witness, a believer.
That's right.
And you can't just go around and say, well, yeah, I'm a member of this church.
I believe in Jesus.
Well, good.
Satan believes in Jesus, too.
And he won't bow his knee, though.
That's right.
And call him Lord and serve him as Lord.
He will not.
That's the difference.
That's right.
Praise God.
We have the opportunity to be born again.
Signs in the Heavens 00:05:03
I know there's been a culture wave.
You guys have probably seen it on the internet.
If you have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, X, I think they call it now.
Whatever it is, you see, you know, people say, well, I was born this way.
You know, I didn't choose to be like this.
I was born this way.
But praise God.
The word of God says we are supposed to be born again.
We get that second life.
We're a new creation in Christ.
So I don't care how you're born.
We're all born into sin.
We're called to line up with the word of God.
Absolutely.
And that's why a real church, and by real, I mean, no church is perfect.
No church is perfect.
No pastor.
I went to yours.
It's pretty close.
Well, yeah, except I'll Christian other than ours.
I wouldn't even say mine is.
Well, I was going to say that, but I was letting you say that.
No, I'm kidding, brother.
But anyway, now you've confused me.
I forgot where I was going.
Hey, I want to jump right into the subject.
Jump right in.
I want to confuse them.
We're going to jump right into the subject.
People have asked, we've actually asked our partners, hey, what are questions you want us to ask these men?
This is one of the questions, Pastor Carlos, this is directly given to you.
Do the scriptures, and particularly Jesus, mention anything about aliens or an alien invasion in the last days?
Who asked that?
No, no, I'm kidding.
Yeah.
Well, listen, here's my take on this.
You're not going to find a scripture that says some of those words, where Jesus said, in the last days, there will be aliens from outer space.
You will call them UFOs, and they're going to be coming upon the face of the earth.
He doesn't say those words, but let me just tell you some things he says about the last days that could very well apply to this topic that we're talking about.
And the bottom line is: I tell folks all the time when I'm preaching, we don't know what we don't know.
Now, we know what the Bible says, and the Bible says a lot, and interpreted contextually, it gives us either a black and white answer or really good hints that the Holy Spirit can keep revealing to us as it gets closer to the last days.
But we don't know what we don't know.
So we don't want to be so arrogant as to say, well, he said this, and so that's got to mean this.
So I'm not doing that, but watch.
I do know that over and over, Yeshua, Hebrew for Jesus, Yeshua said things like, listen, in the last days, men's hearts will fail them.
That word that's translated fail means they will die of heart attacks.
They will die.
Their hearts, when your heart fails, that's it.
Okay?
He says, and then he talks about a deception that's so great that even the very elect could be deceived if that were possible, which means the very elect hopefully have been inoculated by the truth of God's word, and they understand when they see something that seems so unbelievable to them, they have been inoculated to know that's what the word of God was speaking of.
And then they won't be deceived.
The other thing that Jesus said, and this is really important, the other thing Jesus said was, and this is in Luke chapter 21, and there are several ways people interpreted it, but I want you to hear the words and the language he uses.
He said, so in the last days, there will be signs in the heavens.
All right, now that word is oranus, which means heaven, but it can also mean multiple dimensions of reality.
Whereas Paul writes in Ephesians 6 about, listen, in the unseen realms, so that's what that's speaking of.
So there will be signs in the heavens.
Well, and then it goes on to say, and the sun and the moon, and the stars will fall from the sky.
And it speaks of all of this, and then the waves will be roaring.
And then it speaks of the fact that men will see these things and they will be stricken with fear because of what their hearts will fail them, because of what they see coming upon the earth.
That word upon in Greek means it's coming from somewhere and it's coming.
All right, now Paul talks about the last days, an outpouring of demons, doctrines.
We go into Revelation and the fifth trumpet talks about an abyss being opened and all kind of demonic stuff coming.
People interpret it differently, but over and over, we get the feeling when we read the scriptures that there truly is going to be a demonic outpouring in the last days.
So when we look at those scriptures and we understand what Jesus is saying, something's happening.
He says the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
That word powers in the Greek is dunamis, where we get our word dynamite.
Already Occurring Spiritual Warfare 00:06:56
And it's only used in the New Testament in one of two ways.
One, to speak of the powers of God's throne, of Jesus Christ, of the holy angels, of the people of God.
The other is to speak of the powers of the demonic realm.
Ephesians 6.
It talks about our battles not against flesh and blood, but against the powers of the unseen realm, against the principalities, etc.
And so we know that this is spiritual warfare.
So I, you know, it appears to me with, listen, for decades, many of us have been talking about the possibility.
What's going on with all this UFO stuff?
We were called conspiracy theorists and idiots and, you know, alarmists.
And if we dared to preach and speak, to even do biblical speculation on what it might be, oh, oh, we were castigated and lampooned and lamblasted.
Now, our own Congress has secret and has had secret, top secret, classified meetings and hearings and bringing in experts from the military and from NASA and from all of these people.
And some of them are whistleblowers saying, look, this is real.
This is deep.
We know what's happening.
We don't know how to explain it.
Now we've got military jets that took all of these videos, the U.S. Navy, and we're looking at that.
That's been all over Fox News and other mainstream media.
So the things that people used to lamb blast us for just thinking about, asking about, now people in power are jumping on the bandwagon.
And there was a senator that was on that committee that literally said in the headlines after they made it all public, he said, they are here, and we only can hope they are benevolent.
And then he goes on to say, we cannot stand against them.
I was blown away.
It's an interesting time.
So the bottom line is, I don't look for a demon under every rock, and I don't look for an alien under every flash in the sky.
I don't live my life that way.
I live my life keeping my eyes on Jesus Christ and standing in the world.
But however, however, however, it would not shock me at all based upon things that Jesus said, and he didn't say the statement they just asked me to speak to.
But based upon things he said and the things Paul said about the outpouring of demonic and the delusions and the illusions, Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light, on and on and on.
All of the elements are there for there to be a massive deception that is a part of the last days battle of the heavens, the angelic and the demonic.
Because a lot of Christians are going to Area 51 and all these crazy areas, Christians are going and believing this lie.
And they're setting up tent and they're confused.
No, I'm not going to do that.
So when they're doing cards and all that nonsense at times, I didn't finish where I was going, but I realized I was taking too much time, so I just kind of cut it off.
But the point is, I agree completely with Brother Dave, especially about extraterrestrials.
However, the Word of God does say, and he knows this, and I know he knows this and believes it, but the Word of God does say there are interdimensional entities, and that's different than extraterrestrial.
In other words, they're coming from another universe, another planet, whatever.
You know, the Bible says nothing about that.
Brother Dave is correct.
But we are warned that there are other dimensions of reality, interdimensional, and that's what's causing what we see.
We're living not against flesh and blood, principalities, powers, cosmic rulers of the dark age.
Yeah, it's interdimensional.
We can't see them.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
No, we're living in Satan's world until Jesus sets his feet on the Mount of Olives.
That we are.
He's bought our salvation.
He's bought the earth back and he's coming again.
But right now, we're still immersed in Satan's world as his ambassadors.
But the point being that Jesus himself said in Luke 17, he says, Look, and this is just on his way to the cross.
And he's talking to the Pharisees that are coming out and questioning him, what will be the signs of your return.
And he says on the way out, he says, Listen, it'll be just like the days of Noah and just like the days of Lot.
Now, those words, just like, doesn't mean kind of sort of, or you can kind of compare it to this, just like.
Well, in both of those, there were interdimensional incursions, one evil, one not evil.
And again, that's that powers in the heavens.
Okay.
And the signs in the skies can be interpreted astrology.
And of course, none of us would get into that.
But it can also mean this interdimensional war that is already taking place right now.
We've got whole denominations that have fallen to abject heresy.
Okay.
So that's already taking place.
But when you go to the whole understanding of the days of Noah, which Jesus said, the sons of God, the B'na Elohim came unto the daughters of men, and there were giants and all this.
And then the flood, it was so wicked, boom.
Okay, so there's an evil incursion.
This talks about in Jude and Peter, okay?
And then about them being in the deepest, darkest dungeons because they crossed, they left their original estate.
And so there's that.
And then the days of Lot, angels from heaven came.
And God Himself at Theophany with Abraham.
And then the angels left and went down to Sodom and Gomorrah and got Lot.
And then they were called out by angels.
Jesus said, In the last days, the trumpet will sound, Son of Man will call, and his angels will gather the elect from the four corners of the earth.
So it's all backed up.
Of course, what he said is exactly he said that.
Okay.
And then he says it again in Matthew 24 to his disciples on the Mount of Olives, it'll be just like the days of Noah.
So when you see these things, there's something interdimensionally that's going to ramp up in the last days.
When it talks about the stars falling from heaven in Luke 21, okay?
Well, of course, a star is a thermonuclear ball of it's like our sun.
It's like our sun.
So if we're just a few hundred miles closer to our sun, we burn up.
So if all the suns in the heavens fall to towards the earth, we're gone before we can even breathe.
So it's used metaphorically, but spiritually, deeply, almost parabolically.
So you find in the Old Testament and the New Testament, right up to the book of Revelation, and Satan was thrown out of heaven and he swept his tail and gathered one-third of the stars with him.
And there was a star that came to the pit and opened it.
And there was a star and a star.
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And we're talking about either the angelic realm and/or the demonic realm interdimensionally.
And I'm just saying, I'm the same way, Brother Dave is.
I don't know about you guys, but I really enjoy my job.
It's kind of funny.
But I agree with Brother Dave.
We're not talking about little green men from other planets.
We're talking about interdimensional warfare that Paul talks about.
More importantly, Jesus talks about, the whole word of God talks about.
We see that into interdimensional warfare in the Old Testament.
Hey, I just want to clarify something.
We're 40 minutes in the show.
We've only asked two questions.
Two questions.
We're you guys up here.
What do you expect?
What do you expect?
Listen, take a breath.
Drink some water.
Hey, we're going to talk about our sponsor for today's show.
Listen, I got to give you a headline before we go into our next subject that you're going to answer.
Michael Snyder put out a headline and it reads like this.
I don't know if you read it.
A lot of you probably missed it.
What will you do when you can't buy or sell anything on the internet without your UN mandate digital ID chip?
That's right.
Understand that what we're talking about right now, we're already there.
It's not what's coming.
It's what's being put in place.
And when you can't do transactions on the internet without having your digital mandated.
It's called a gender 23.
And whenever you can't do transactions on the internet unless you have the exact ideology that they want you to have, that's what sets us up for, I believe, is this next question.
Reverend Dave, do you think that AI, artificial intelligence, will be a precursor or even lead us into what we consider the mark of the beast?
I think there's no doubt that it will.
I agree.
AI with all the algorithms and everything that are being set up.
If you go really deep into artificial intelligence, AI is what we're talking about here.
I think that it's already being used by people to determine by computers to determine when people will go to war, the computer making the decision because of the algorithms that are being set up, whether people can get a loan, a lot of different things, whether people will be censored on Facebook or on Google or on YouTube.
Algorithms are determining that.
Now, they've been put in there by human beings, but these algorithms are set up and they're changing the algorithms all the time.
And anybody who's a conservative news source, end time ministries, has been censored very heavily by algorithms that we have went against.
So that's AI.
And so for AI to be set up to, and now the mark of the beast, what is the mark of the beast?
The mark of the beast is a global economic sanctioning system that will be used by the Antichrist and the false prophet to force people into compliance with the world government that's now being established.
Won't be able to buy or sell.
Won't be able to buy or sell.
Economic sanctioning.
So when you set all the Antichrist, he's going to have a very short period of time to reign.
He's not going to come on the scene and he's going to say, oh, let me see, how am I going to rule the world?
I need to probably establish a world government.
I need to get the religions of the world on board.
And I need to establish a global economic sanctioning system.
No.
He's going to usurp authority over an already fully functioning world government, world religion, and a global economic sanctioning system.
This is one of the things that they will use AI for.
AI can be used.
It's like anything.
You can use it for good and you can use it for evil.
I use AI right now.
I use it.
However, I'm using it for all of us do probably, but I'm using it for good.
I'm using it to share the gospel around the world.
Google AI.
Cell phones are.
In the end time, when the Antichrist usurps authority over a fully functioning world governing body, AI will certainly be used and there'll just be algorithms set up.
And if this person complies, one of the things the Bible says, anyone who will not worship the beast or his image, they will be given a number.
Everybody's going to be given a number, but if you're not willing to worship this entity, that you will be rendered the inability to function in society.
It's called the mark of the beast.
You won't be able to buy or sell.
And I believe that AI certainly will be using that.
We're watching systems being set up along with global digital IDs, the move towards a cashless society, all of these things, facial recognition photographs, everything that's used to number people.
The reason you number people is to control them.
That's right.
And look at the Jews and the Holocaust.
They all had them tattooed numbers on their arms.
That was put on there to control them.
The same thing the Antichrist and the false prophet will do in the end time.
He's going to give everybody a number in there or a global digital ID, a unique identification number, to force people into compliance.
The United Nations is already doing it.
In these war-torn countries, in the Syrian Civil War, when some of those people had to escape down into the country of Jordan, they were put in huge camps and they had a commissary in the middle.
And the United Nations would give them a voucher every week to go into the commissary to buy groceries or whatever.
And they queried their account when they went in to pay for that.
I'm putting groceries and things up on the counter to buy.
They would do a retinal scan.
No cash.
All they had was digital vouchers.
They would do a retinal scan.
It would query their account through a United Nations database and either allow them to buy, to purchase goods they needed, or, no, your account's overdrawn.
You can't buy that.
It's already happening, guys.
And in underdeveloped nations, so AI is in charge of all that.
These AI algorithms are already set up to say this person will comply.
Yes, you can get a bank loan.
Your number is valid.
But if your number's not valid, if you won't comply with the edicts, if you're a religious extremist and you won't bow down to the edicts of the Antichrist in the future, then AI will say, your number's invalid and you can't buy or sell.
This is where we're headed.
So, Pastor Carl, how does AI play into all this with the technological advances being made?
We see that clearly, yes, AI is going to play a massive role in the market of the beast system.
How do we prepare ourselves for this?
Yeah.
Well, the way we prepare ourselves, now this is going to sound simplistic, but it's biblical.
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We fix our eyes on Jesus.
We stand in the word.
We know the truth.
We discern the truth, the word of God, so that we can rightly divide the truth.
And that also means so that we can rightly live the truth in the days in which we live.
Now, listen, if the Lord comes in our lifetime, then what we're doing here is monumental.
Okay.
But even if he doesn't, if he comes in the next generation or the next, and I don't see how, but it could be, because we don't know what we don't know, then we're the prophets to those generations.
Okay?
So we've got to prepare the church, and I think that's what we're trying to do.
Know what is lying ahead, at least what we now know.
Please remember all of the prophecies about the coming of Messiah.
Psalm 22, pierced my hands and my feet.
Isaiah 53, pierced, lashed, back, between two thieves.
They didn't know.
They didn't know what that meant.
They didn't know the details of it until the day he's on the cross and he cries out, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
He's telling them, turn to Psalm 22.
Go read it.
Read it.
Go read it.
Gambling for my clothing under my feet.
They're mocking me.
My tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth.
I thirst.
On and on.
And that, you know, the centurion hit his knees and said, we've just killed the Son of God.
This must be the Son of God.
This must be the Son of God.
So I'm saying there is when it hit.
And I'm telling you, we're now living the most prophetic time since the first coming of Jesus Christ.
Signs are all around us, beginning with the return of Israel.
We could go on and on.
But the bottom line is that this, we need to prepare ourselves and understand the times in which we are living.
And they're all around us.
We better have the eyes to see them.
All we're trying to do is just to, you know, talk about some things together and get people's eyes open and get people thinking and talking about these things.
But that's the bottom line.
I get up, and I know Brother Dave does.
We've already said it.
We get up every morning and we live for Jesus.
We get up the next day.
That's what we live for Jesus.
We get up the next day.
We live for Jesus.
And we tell others about him.
You know, I was getting my haircut the other day and somebody said, well, what is this conference?
Because the barbershop that I go to is kind enough to hang a poster.
And so somebody came in and was asking the lady who checks out, you make sure you get the money before, you know, just run off with a free haircut.
So what was this conference all about?
You know, she was kind of explaining.
She goes, well, you can ask him.
I was over there getting my haircut.
You can ask him.
He's going to be hosting the conference.
I said, you know what?
The goal here is not to change someone's perspective.
It's to give them perspective.
I want you guys to go back to the word of God and rightly divide the word of truth.
Read your Bible.
If anything you get from this, it should be encouraging for you to go and read the word of God more.
Fall more in love with the word of God than you ever have, friends.
And that is the entire purpose behind this conference.
We want you guys to understand we love you guys enough to bring subject matter experts, to bring them onto this set and to say, hey, here are different opinions, but they all lead back to one thing.
It's Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone and the good work that he did on the cross.
But, friends, we can't do it without you.
Like Mondo said on the first broadcast, it's very true.
You are the reason that we get to continue to broadcast the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world.
So continue to stand with us.
We can't thank you enough for those who have stood with us through trying times.
The last five years have been turbulent for us.
You know, we've gone through highs, a couple of lows, I would say.
But, you know, we were attacked by the government for some things that actually weren't said by us on our broadcast.
The guests said on our show, and we thought, hey, we live in America, the greatest country in the world.
We have freedom of speech.
Turns out that's not the case.
But you know what?
We endured through it, not by our own strength, but because we hit our knees and said, God, if you are in this ministry, you'll sustain this ministry.
If you are with us, you will keep us here.
And friends, if you're watching this right now, he's kept us here.
He has sustained us.
He has stood with us.
And I want to say thank you for you.
Because, Mondo, like you said, they did take away the way that we could process payments.
We had people writing checks.
We used to get a majority of our payments through credit card processing.
This is the day and age we live in.
We had people writing checks and sending them in.
We had people putting cash in mail and sending it in.
You don't do that anymore.
But I want to say thank you.
You are the reason that we got to continue to preach the gospel, to have conferences like this where we can have information given to you.
So I can't say it enough.
I know anytime I talk to Pastor Jim Baker, he always says, Take care of my friends.
And he's talking about you, the partners, the people who have allowed us to lay this incredible foundation and build off the backs of really spiritual giants and spiritual generals.
So again, thank you.
If you want to continue to support us on a monthly basis, 1-888-988-1588, that's the number you can call.
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But your monthly support is the reason that we know, hey, we got a baseline we can continue to follow through on.
We can continue to press forward in the gospel.
But we want to expand again.
We were on 24 outlets.
We were on 24 outlets, 24 different stations, 24 different channels.
Now we're down to two.
But you know what?
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And every single time we have shifted, you guys have found us and continue to watch us.
Even as we move into a streaming digital platform, you guys continue to find the show.
And for that, I want to say thank you because you don't have to go out of your way to find this, but you do and you support.
So thank you.
I mean it from the bottom of our heart from our family.
Thank you.
And one more thing.
The one thing that is in Pastor Jim's heart for you is to get prepared physically.
Amen.
Food preparation.
Listen, when we gather with him with birthdays or just to go see him, the conversation always goes to making sure that you get your food.
He's trying to prepare your food.
You get your water because he sees a Joseph moment arising and the church is not ready.
Now, you and the audience, how many of you have food?
I know a lot of them.
Come on, praise God.
I'm going to your house.
Come on.
But if you're watching and you haven't prepared, we urge you to go to the website, jimbakershow.com, and start visiting the affiliate page of the food, this grid down, chow down.
This is a freeze-dried.
Listen, meet that right now.
If I tell you the news on what's happening with our food, it was shocking, the chemicals, hormones.
But I want to tell you something.
The church is not getting prepared.
Ricky and I have traveled across this nation and have met pastors that wish they would have the bucket of food for their families, for their church.
Why?
Because when a disaster hits, the church is never ready.
True, we've seen so many churches not ready.
You know what?
The church shows up with food after it happens, but the church should be the lighthouse in the middle of a disaster before it hits.
And I want to tell you something.
We are arriving at the doorstep of a Joseph moment.
Do you believe that?
It's the final boarding is coming.
And if you're not prepared, you're going to be deceived in understanding that the government is going to come and help you.
How many of you have gone through something waiting for someone to come and help you, and no one is there but the church?
That's right.
Listen, go to the website or give us a call, 1-888-988-1588.
Get your food.
Listen, one of the things that we really don't never talk about is this amazing water that we have.
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This is military-graded plastic.
That's right.
It means it doesn't leech any bacteria.
That's right.
No BPA.
One incredible thing is we saw flood zones, especially on the East Coast, and they're flooded.
It sounds like an oxymoron, but we said, what do you guys need more than anything so we can send a trailer load of supplies?
And a place that was devastated by floods said, we need water.
Yeah.
Ironically, we need water.
Because that water is undrinkable.
That's right.
And so we wanted to support them.
But you guys are the reason that we get to continue to do humanitarian outreach and continue to feed people, clothe people, and ensure that they hear the most important message they'll ever hear, the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Man, we've asked five questions today.
We have six minutes left on the broadcast.
I got to stop talking so much.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Six minutes left on the broadcast.
I know it is a loaded question, but we're going to try and split the time evenly.
What or who is the Antichrist?
Okay, so the ominous figure in the end time.
Yes.
From the book of Daniel, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 and Revelation, there are about 50 prophecies concerning this ominous figure in the end time.
Who or what is the Antichrist?
So in the end time, Revelation chapter 13 is God exposing Satan's effort to build his kingdom in the earth in the end time.
It's an end time world government, an end-time world religion, and the economic sanctioning system known commonly as the mark of the beast.
The end-time world government, the Bible prophesies that that will be a European-centered world governing body.
From Revelation chapter 13, verse 1 through 8, it gives a prophecy of two things: the world government and its leader who will be the Antichrist in the near future.
The world government is pretty much established.
There's only a few things that need to happen before they have a fully functioning world governing body.
The United Nations is the seat of that world government in the earth today.
There's only a few things standing in between a fully functioning world governing body and what they have now.
The United States of America is one of those entities.
Amen.
And that's one of the reasons why a lot of people have tried to destroy America, the globalists, to try to get her out of the way so they could have their fully functioning world governing body.
Once they get that world government established, the Bible says three and a half years prior to the second coming of Jesus Christ that the Antichrist, this ominous figure that will be a politician that comes from Europe, I can prove that scripturally, that he will usurp authority over that world governing body and he will rule the world as an ambassador of Satan himself.
The Bible says in Revelation 13, 2, that the dragon will give this entity its seat, power, and its great authority.
The Antichrist will, in my opinion, pretty much most likely be inhabited by Satan himself, and he will be much worse than Hitler ever thought of being.
And so this is the ominous figure that's coming in the near future.
And of course, you know, we all have our opinions on the timing of all of this and everything.
But the fact is, the Bible gives about 50 prophecies concerning this ominous figure in the end time, all of the things that he does.
And so the Bible will specifically, when will we recognize him?
You know, a lot of people call into our program all the time and say, who is the Antichrist?
I've got cabinets full of people that said, so-and-so is the Antichrist, Obama, President Trump, Elon Musk.
And the fact is, is that the Bible says in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 that he will be revealed when he stands in a future, a third Israeli temple on the Temple Mount, when he stands in that temple and proclaims to be God, 2 Thessalonians 2 tells us that's when the Antichrist will be revealed.
That's when I can go on my radio and television program and say, hey, so-and-so is the Antichrist.
And there's so many characteristics to that, but there's no way we're going to have time to get into all of it.
But the Bible is very, it gives us 50 prophecies about this ominous figure in the end time.
God wanted us to know that this is the guy, and I will not follow him.
That's something we absolutely cannot do.
In the book of Revelation chapter 13, the word worship is mentioned there like five times.
And the Bible says everyone whose name is not written in the land's book of life will worship this individual.
The Bible says they all shall worship the dragon.
By worshiping the Antichrist, they'll be worshiping Satan himself because it's Satan's kingdom that he represents.
So very, very important that we understand what are we doing in this program?
We're preparing people not to worship this individual, not to follow the world government, the end-time world religion that's being established, and not never to take the mark of the beast.
And, you know, maybe in some future programs, we can get into the people, the nations that I can prove scripturally will not fully comply with the end-time world government and the Antichrist.
We don't have time to do that, I know, on the program, but very, very important.
The Antichrist will be the individual that usurps authority over the end-time world government and rules the world as an ambassador for Satan himself.
Revelation 13, 1 through 8.
Yeah.
Wow.
Listen, I'm not saying it's going to be a good day, but I hope it's on a Friday, so it's open line Friday.
So we can call in and say, brother, did you just say that?
Oh, but Pastor Carl, as we say goodbye, you got to answer this because the Antichrist is coming from somewhere.
I got my theory.
I'd love to sit down with you two gentlemen on what I think and where I think it's coming from and who may be that person.
Because I want to learn.
I'm a student of the word.
But, Pastor, where do you believe your stance is when it comes to the Antichrist and where would he appear on the scene?
I cede to the two gentlemen.
We've got one minute.
I can't answer that.
You can go over.
I mean, he took five minutes and he needed to.
So I can't take one minute.
I'm sorry.
I don't know how to answer that.
We've got five minutes.
We'll give you five minutes.
You can go over.
The time's not.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
I agree with an awful lot of what Brother Dave just said.
I can also say, don't ever forget that before, see, God's moving from point A to point Z. I'm the Alpha and the Omega, the Aleph and the Ta in Hebrew.
He's moving from this point to this point, from the Garden of Eden to the reestablishment of the kingdom of God on earth and wherever else he wants to do it.
It's up to him.
He owns the universe.
He's moving that way.
But all throughout, he gets closer and closer as we get to the book of Revelation.
And even there, we have the final revelation from God's throne.
But to fully understand each detail of it, you've got to be closer to it.
As it gets closer and closer, people see it and they get it.
They have eyes to see.
Okay.
So the bottom line is there's always a foreshadowing of things that are to come.
You mentioned a little while ago about the Nazi Holocaust and the marking system and the numbering.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
There's a foreshadowing because people say, well, how can he do that?
How can he make everybody take a mark?
I don't know.
How'd they line up six million Jews and put numbers on them and put them in trains?
And they got on most of them voluntarily and went to their deaths.
How did that happen?
How did it happen, guys?
Now, listen to this.
Just a few years ago, a global viral pandemic took place.
And I'm not going to talk about the details of that here, but I'm just saying it took place.
You can't deny it.
And then before we knew it, within days, maybe a week or two, the governments of the world began to speak almost with one voice.
Now, who do you think was behind that?
Satan, who has his emissaries and ambassadors in almost every government of the world.
Okay?
And they got together with one voice.
And what was the main message?
Churches, close.
Now, casinos, you can stay open.
Big box doors, you can stay open.
But churches, you must close.
You're going to kill us all.
And you can't sing because you sing, your breath comes out.
And I mean, that sounds like Satan.
And then you got to mark everybody off six feet.
And we'll tell you when you can open your church, when you can close it, if you can go back, when you can go back, if you can sing, how you can sing.
I mean, that is demonic.
It is a foreshadowing.
And you know what?
Almost the whole world bowed.
Pastors all over the planet.
There's a remnant.
Wow.
There was a remnant.
And so I'm just saying I'm not judging other pastors or churches.
Everybody lived in different nations and under different circumstances.
But I'm saying we just got a global foretaste of how one day, watch this, this day, we didn't have any of that.
The next day, we woke up to, oh my gosh, here's what's happening.
And then the next day was, we've got to do something about it.
And the next day was, here's what we do.
People, do this, do that, do this, take this, take that.
Put your mouth, cover your mouth, stay home, stay out.
And then it got to, now, churches, here's what you do.
And before long, the whole world was brought to a standstill.
And most of the church around the globe was as well.
That's a foretaste of how quickly, one day to the next.
And like Pastor Dave just said, like Brother Dave said, he was right.
And I am in him when he said it because chapter 12 ends in the first verse of chapter 13 of Revelation begins with, and the dragon stood on the shore of the sea, and one foot on the land, one foot on the sea, and the dragon gave his power to the beast.
This is going to be demonically induced.
It is going to be real.
It's going to happen quickly.
Daniel says, like a flood, it's going to happen.
And we're already getting foretaste of it more than the globe has ever seen.
I mean, so there have been global pandemics in the past, but never under a 24-7 information communication system where within days, all the governments of the world had the same script, the talking script, like we see our fake news culture usually does.
Satan had it.
The governments had it.
Oh, a few governments didn't, but most of them had it, including the United States of America, including governors and mayors of various states and cities that went communist berserk on us.
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That's right.
Like dictatorship.
Put pastors in jail, threatened to bulldoze churches.
The mayor of Chicago said that.
Who does that?
China does that.
North Korea does that.
He does that.
But the United States was bowing to that.
I'm telling you, God gives us, he says, listen, we're getting close.
Here's a taste.
Amen.
And so that's why we're here to say, overall, keep your eyes on Jesus, stand in the word, tell others about Jesus.
It's time for the church to wake up.
You know what?
What we're saying here, right here, is preach very little in pulpits all over the world that call themselves conservative evangelical churches.
That's right.
Very little, the stuff we've said.
Very little.
Friends, we got through five questions of the 25 we had written out.
We're going to have them back on.
But, friends, we want to say thank you for allowing the dialogue to come forth where you guys can take this back to the word of God, get a fresh perspective, and say, Thank you, Jesus, that through everything, through the conversations about aliens, through the conversation about AI and how it will affect our Christian walk, through conversations about who the Antichrist is and where he may come from.
We understand that nothing is stronger, nothing is better, nothing is holier than Jesus Christ and His finished work of the cross.
Like you said, we're going to continue to fix our eyes on Jesus.
I do want to say, though, because I love this, you didn't ask me to do this, and I actually brought these up on my own.
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What is the website?
In Time.
I don't even know their website.
I just grabbed the magazines.
I get one of these every single month, and I want to say thank you for what you do because you do have some bold opinions on here and you do preach the word of God.
We love In Time, what they do.
They have a magazine you can go.
I don't know pricing, anything like that.
Go to the website and figure it out.
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Never let anybody convince you otherwise.
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He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
Thank you, Reverend Dave, for being on the broadcast with us today.
Thank you so much, brother.
I love you.
My pleasure.
God bless you.
We'll see you soon.
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