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Jan. 7, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with L.A. Marzulli
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Rest and Renewal 00:06:23
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guest is an author, lecturer, and filmmaker, L.A. Marzuli.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, you're watching Jim Baker's PTL Television Network, friends.
I'm glad you tuned in with us today.
Today, we have L.A. Marzuli on the broadcast with us today.
You are not going to want to miss this episode.
Mondo, L.A. is a friend of yours.
You guys have known each other for, I don't know, some time now, and I'm glad that he is able to be on the Jim Baker family show.
He's one of my favorite people when it comes to the subjects of UFOs and extraterrestrial things.
L.A. Marzulli really has been gifted to help us understand the time.
Again, I keep talking about the times and the seasons just for one reason alone, that when you study the word of God, you have to understand what time it is right now, what season are we in right now.
And it seems like God chooses his people to help us understand how to interpret these times.
I believe that what we're seeing right now in the nation with all the drones and the speculation of UFOs, God has prepared L.A. Marzulli for this time.
And I can't wait to talk to him.
That's right.
You know, if you don't know who L.A. Marzuli is, he's an author, lecturer, and filmmaker.
He has penned 14 books and he has 30 films, including the Nephilim trilogy.
He lectures on the subjects, like Mondo said, UFOs and Nephilim and the ancient prophetic text.
LA is an author of a new book called Rings of Disclosure, Following the Trail of Extraterrestrials and the End Times.
We're going to be getting into that on today's broadcast.
But before we do that, I had a message from Pastor Jim Mondo.
We've been talking with him back and forth.
He's been on his sabbatical right now.
Him and Pastor Laurie are in Florida.
Probably shouldn't have said that.
They're on their sabbatical right now, enjoying themselves.
But every time you need a break sometimes, you do four straight years of ministry through hard times, through pressure.
And, you know, sometimes you need a break.
Yeah, listen, after going through, what, six strokes, right?
And a heart attack.
10 over the course of four years.
Well, 10.
Because he had four in 2020 and then six the beginning of this year.
That's right.
You know, but when your body is almost 85 years old and you go through that period in your life, you need a break.
And he hasn't stopped.
He's been a man on the mission.
And every now and then he gets back on the air and tells you what he thinks.
He shares what he's hearing from God.
But keep praying for him.
Amen.
His strength is building up each and every single time.
But, you know, you cannot go without rest.
You've got to have some rest.
And as this whole time, Ricky, that we have gone through the last few years, it's been a battle.
I mean, every day is a battle.
I mean, I saw an email that you just got of people wanting to sue this ministry.
And maybe I shouldn't say that, but you have to know the truth.
We get sued for almost every little thing.
But yet this is the battle that we're on right now.
And your prayers, your support.
Well, they do it because they don't like the message.
I mean, the message, we're not going to change the message.
It doesn't matter what legal suits come towards us.
We're never going to stop saying Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.
We're never going to back down from our position that the Bible is our ultimate authority.
So sure, government agencies, governmental figures may come and say, hey, you got to stop talking about these issues.
But friends, they're biblical issues.
And I, as a believer, have an obligation to give the information to you.
And you at home can do the research you want.
You at home can ensure that it's right or wrong.
Make sure it lines up with the Bible.
I don't care if it's your pastor of 35 years or if it's me and you're watching the Jim Baker family show.
Anything we say, take it back to the word of God and make sure it aligns with the word of God.
That's how you are, like we see in the book of Acts, the Bereans, they were good stewards of the word because they accepted the message, then they went and made sure it aligned with the word of God.
You know what?
There's hard times and sometimes you need rest during that.
Oh, yeah.
And you know, listen, there's a lot of people that are building their podcast on their opinions, their experience.
But when you check their philosophy, their ideology, their theology, it's way off script.
And I was taught by your friend, Pastor Jim Baker, that if it's not in the word, shut your mouth.
That's right.
That's right.
Make sure you stay in the word.
I learned this years ago, Ricky, that he said, listen, if your sermon has a point here and a point there and a lot of bull in between, you better stop talking about that.
Longhorn preaching.
Exactly, the longhorn sermons.
And he said, you better stay away from your longhorn sermons.
Keep your opinion to yourself.
Keep your comments to yourself.
Just preach the word.
And Graham used to say, just give me Jesus.
Amen.
And a lot of people are talking about their opinions and what they think about a lot of subject matters that are on the headlines.
But I want to tell you something.
Sometimes you need to get away and rest and learn to hear from God.
And that's what Pastor Jones's been saying as we've been on the phone with him.
He's been hearing from the Lord of some things that the Lord is telling him is going to be happening in 2025 and 2026.
So he's not off the hook.
No matter where he is, we tell him, hey, pull up that phone, record a video.
We want to show our partners what the Lord is showing you.
So you'll be seeing and hearing from Pastor Jim Baker as he takes his sabbatical, as he rests, as he recovers.
And we're excited to get him back on this broadcast.
And while we're doing that, I want to thank our affiliate programmers that are standing with this ministry.
Amen.
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Dirty Drones Speculation 00:15:18
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Freds, we're going to jump right into the news today.
We're hearing about drones that are being seen across the Northeast.
I want you to watch this roll-in from a news organization, but it's talking about the lack of drone transparency and how this could be damaging.
First, I want your take on the White House's initial assessment of what these drones are.
A combination of lawful commercial, hobbyist, and law enforcement drones, and even stars.
Do you buy that, Nick?
No, I don't.
I think we're in sort of phase two of this drone flat now.
And this is what I characterize as the empire strikes back.
And my goodness, they struck back yesterday.
There's a lot of anger at this statement.
I think the people in New Jersey feel that the government is gaslighting them with this.
Let me play some sound yesterday from President-elect Trump, who claims that the government knows exactly what's going on here.
Take a quick listen, Nick.
Our military knows where they took off from.
If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage.
They know where it came from and where it went.
I think it's clear that he is receiving intelligence briefings in his capacity as president-elect, and he's clearly trying to drop hints here and say, look, don't believe the official kind of there's nothing to see move along type explanations.
If eventually it does come out that the government knew what was going on this entire time, Nick, and repeatedly saying time and time again, we can't give you any more, how damaging is that going to be to public trust and also all of the efforts that have been made to uncover the truth about UAPs here in the last year?
It will be damaging.
I think the only point, though, is that, of course, we are in now the last days of the Biden administration, so there will be a fresh start when President-elect Trump takes power.
And clearly he'll want to maybe, if this is still going on and unresolved, he'll want to put a stamp on this.
But current statements that this is no threat are really at odds with the other statements of we still don't really know what's going on.
You can't have it both ways.
You know, you're skeptical when it comes to where these drones originate from.
Do you believe, Dr. LA Marjalie, that this is a distraction and is someone controlling this narrative?
You know, that's a very complex question.
Let me just weigh in on it from my perspective.
Some of this is conjecture.
I wrote a book called Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural.
It's right now it's out of print.
We're working on the second edition, but I digress.
That came out in 2007.
One of the scenarios I posited was this.
At the collapse of the former, so, and this is a matter of historical record.
This is not speculation or conjecture.
At the close, basically the demise of the former Soviet Union, dirty nukes were sold on the black market.
What is a dirty nuke?
A suitcase nuke, where at one time it was a nuclear bomb with the whole Hiroshima cloud, the whole nine yards, but they don't have a launch keys, but it's very radioactive.
So you sell this on the black market to terrorists.
They buy this thing.
They slap some C4 on the side of it, explode it anywhere, and you basically have a mini Chernobyl on your hands.
In other words, here's a scenario.
Let's say that you would take, the confetti, I love it.
Let's say you would take one of these suitcase nukes and park it near the New York Stock Exchange, God forbid, and you would explode it.
Well, you've irradiated that entire area.
You've just closed down the New York Stock Exchange as we know it.
So all these suitcase nukes may have been brought in, may underline the word may, through a very porous border in the 90s and the 2000s.
There's no doubt about that.
That's a matter of documentation.
So what we may be looking at is the fact that we have been threatened.
The government knows exactly what's going on.
And the fact that there's no attack helicopter shooting these things down or Jets being deployed tells me, as an independent researcher, that our government knows exactly what is going on.
But here's the deal.
They don't want to alarm the public.
This is where the conjecture comes in.
So the scenario is this.
Let's say there are dirty nukes, suitcase nukes, which were brought in in the late 90s into this country.
They are laying in secured areas.
The terrorists know where they are.
Somehow, either we have been threatened or someone, a whistleblower, has come on and said, they're ready to detonate these things.
You've got to find them.
Well, where are they?
Well, we don't know, but we think they're on the eastern seaboard.
So then they have a drones flying over.
These drones are what they call sniffers.
What I mean by that, they are looking for spikes in the background radiation.
That's what they're looking for.
That's how you can find them.
Because even though it's in a suitcase, suitcase nuke, it's still giving off radiation.
And there would be a spike in that.
And that's what I think these things are.
Otherwise, they'd be shot out of the ground.
Now, that's scenario one.
Scenario two gets a little more involved.
We know that the drones have outrun Coast Guard and all this other stuff.
Is it possible that we are looking at non-human technology that's been employed in these drones that came out of Area 51 slash S4?
That's conjecture.
That brings a whole UAP UFO, sort of the alien connection, the rungs of disclosure.
That's kind of where it brings it into.
So a lot of that's conjecture, but I think the first scenario is the one that fits.
Because, and here's the deal: this is why we're not saying anything.
If they said this, if they told us the truth, let's say my scenario is right, and they come up on six o'clock news.
Folks, we are looking for a suitcase nuke, which was smuggled out of the former Soviet Union.
We believe terrorists have this.
If they detonate it, it will cause a miniature noble and it will seal off, let's say, a half a mile square, something like that, whatever it would do, probably more than that.
Can you imagine the panic in the populace?
If they know there's this one in New York City or Newark, New Jersey, what do you think the population is going to do?
It's mass panic.
And so they know that.
They know that.
And that's why they can't really say anything.
Because if they spill the beans, you know, where are all these people going to go?
There's going to be a run on the food, on the gas.
Where do all these people coming out of these cities go to?
So it's what they're hoping for is they can find them.
A lot of that is conjecture.
A lot of that is speculation, but it's based on the information that I've been able to glean off multiple news sources.
This is interesting.
Very.
This is powerful.
This is interesting.
This is mind-blowing because I want to bring two points on what L.A. Marzuli just described.
In 1999, Pastor Jim Baker had a prophecy of 31 things.
You remember that?
I hope you're still studying because there's a couple of things that still hasn't taken place out of those 31 things.
One of them was that he saw in a vision suitcases the size of basketballs being snuck into this country, Ricky.
That's right.
That when they got the call, they will blow up.
This was in 1999.
Yet, LA Marzuli just said in the 90s they could have brought this in through our borders.
But yet nobody was paying attention.
Nobody wants to hear when the men of God and the women of God have a word to say.
Woe unto you prophets.
This is a word I want to give you.
Woe unto you prophets that are confusing the people.
Let the real prophets speak up.
Let the real prophets prophesy what's coming to this nation.
Yet a lot of you are killing the true prophets because you don't want to hear what the true prophets have to say.
You don't want to hear what the watchmen on the wall have to see in order to understand how do we pray against this.
I believe that what we're taking, that what we're watching take place right now is one of the prophetic words that was given to Pastor Jim of dirty bombs being snuck into this nation.
Number two, I believe that what Brother Marzuli just described about the Eastern seaborne at the gate.
Yes.
I believe, again, a man that I believe that was a prophet, a watchman on the wall, David Workerson, prophesied in 1973 that there will be judgment at the gates.
I'm sorry, our Eastern and Western seaboards.
Why aren't we watching?
Why aren't we listening to the voices that really matter right now?
Stop listening to all this crazy.
Oh, man.
I don't even want to, I don't want to challenge anybody, but I'm telling you, you people are being deceived by all this random prophets that are out there that really have no business being involved in true prophecy.
I believe that L.A. Marzulli is one of those true prophets.
Yes.
That's my opinion.
You don't have to agree with it, but I want to tell you something.
Everything that he just described, Ricky, tell me what you said.
Let me ask you this.
Yes.
What do you believe this activity in the skies is all about?
Yeah.
You know, we were talking, especially with our head of security before the show, and I believe that this is truly, first off, anything the government does is slow indoctrination.
They want to get you comfortable with the idea of something.
They've released movies decades in advance.
They release children's propaganda decades in advance.
Why?
It's all for the case of slow indoctrination.
And if I would have said that a decade ago, people would have said, okay, go ahead and throw your tinfoil hat on.
Go ahead and, you know, start calling yourself a conspiracy theorist online.
But friends, we realize, oh, this has all been by design over the last few decades.
What I was talking to you about, Mondo, is I said, you know, they use these drones in other parts of the countries as policing software.
They use it so they can go and they can police public areas.
In this case, we're seeing that they're searching currently for a nuke, a dirty bomb.
What is that?
Instead of police going door to door and raiding people's cabinets and homes, they're using what?
A drone for policing software.
A new type of warfare.
A new type of warfare.
That's what this is.
Okay, I'm getting.
And it's, yeah.
There's a man that is ahead of the national security policy, and I'm not going to mention his name.
He's been on the program before.
This man is giving me information of what you just described.
A man that believes that America is in trouble.
As a matter of fact, let me take you back a few weeks ago.
Pastor Jim kept saying there's a bomb that is going to go off.
He said that many times.
I don't, listen, I have sat next to him for years, and sometimes I'm thinking, what is he talking about?
Yeah.
Why does he keep saying the same thing?
But he believes that there's a bomb that is going to go off in America.
He said in the United States.
Right.
In the United States.
Maybe we can look for that.
But I want to tell you something.
There's wisdom in the old generation.
The old watchman.
Stop trying to get rid of the old man.
That's right.
Stop trying to get rid of the old people.
Cling to them.
And I don't mean to disrespect you.
If you're the older generation, that's not a disrespect to you.
That's an honor to you.
We value you.
That's right.
We understand that your knowledge and the wisdom that is for right now.
That's right.
Pray for America.
Something is going to happen before President Trump gets to be in the White House.
Pray for America.
Amen.
You know, I want to ask you this question, Ellie, as you're on with us today.
What motivated you to write the rungs of disclosure?
And is it true that you've been threatened for some, you know, exposing topics like, you know, the Watchers?
I definitely have been threatened.
That has to do with the Candle Heart Giants.
We broke the story.
My late business partner, Richard Shaw, and myself broke the story.
We had a shooter.
We had a second witness.
Since then, I've had other witnesses come up to me validating the story.
So I was threatened by a guy who showed me his badge from a deep state, one of those three-letter organizations, and threatened me.
And the reason why I say this is because if something ever happens to me, you know that it wasn't me.
If I suicided, I didn't suicide.
If I have a fiery car crash, you know that something's up here.
But I was threatened and I told this guy, I said, Look, I get it, I'm a worm, you can crush me, but you can't do it unless the Lord allows it to happen.
So, you know, that was years ago.
I did have a slight little car thing, which I won't get into, which when they came and towed the car away, I showed them a timing belt, and the tow truck driver looked at it and said, Do you have any enemies?
It was cut in three places.
Just saying.
So, what I think the motivation, the nexus to the books, runs of disclosure.
I'm watching Tucker Carlson on Fox News.
Commander David Fraver's Encounter 00:03:04
This is when Tucker, of course, was on Fox News.
And I'm watching Tucker, and it's 2017.
And he starts off with a little introduction.
And it's basically this: UFOs used to be the stuff of conspiracy theorists, tinfoil hot wearing people, but maybe we shouldn't think that anymore.
Commander David Fraver joins us tonight, former F-18 pilot who had an encounter with a tic-tac-shaped object over the Pacific Ocean.
He introduces Commander David Fraver, and this interview is only five minutes.
It's on a Friday night, and I'm like this.
I'm like looking at the TV in complete and utter disbelief, thinking to myself, Oh my gosh, this is disclosure.
On some level, it's disclosure.
Commander David Fraver is a stand-up guy.
He's the best of the best of the best.
You don't fly a jet that's worth millions and millions of dollars if you're Elmer Fudd.
This guy was an amazing pilot, still is an amazing pilot.
And he's dispatched along with his wingman out to check out this thing.
It had been on radar for two weeks.
And he gets there, and this tic-tac-shaped object is darting over the ocean, just like this.
There's no rotor wash, there's no tail section, there's no wings, there's no sign of any type of motor or anything.
So, what are we looking at here?
And he's flying around this thing in a circle.
And as he cuts across the circle to see what this it comes at him, it jams his radar and then shoots away Fraver's words like a bullet out of a gun.
52 miles or 50 miles in two seconds.
Are you serious?
The g-forces would be like, what, 1,000, 2,000?
A normal human being can do about 10, 12, 14 Gs before really nasty things begin to happen.
So, how do you do that?
You do that by bending space and time.
That's the work of Bob Lazar.
So, if you're in a craft like this and you're bending space and time, there are no g-forces.
You can make right-angle turns, you can accelerate at unbelievable speeds without harming anybody because space and time is being bent.
That's a theory, but that's from Bob Lazar, and that's what I think is going on.
So, that was the first rung on the ladder of disclosure.
That was the first rung on the ladder because I just went, Oh my gosh, this is unbelievable.
And since then, this is 2017, we're now in 2024.
We're on, actually, I've done an update, runsofdisclosure.com.
You can get all the footnotes and see the updates.
We're on rung number 20, and this is not going away.
And one of the most prolific, one of the most important rungs on that ladder was when David Grush, who's a whistleblower, is in the halls of Congress.
Prepare For Warnings 00:04:29
So, I'm saying this because a lot of you out there are watching this going, Well, what does this have to do with the Bible or anything like this?
And it has everything to do with the Bible.
It is the coming great deception.
Jesus warns us that even the elect would be deceived if that were possible.
So, in the halls of Congress, David Grush is there, and he's asked by Representative Nancy Mays from South Carolina, and your opinion: you know, do we have crashed craft?
And Grush says yes.
Nancy Mays follows up.
Were there bodies from these craft?
Grush says, yes, we retrieve biologics.
Nancy May says, were they human or non-human biologics?
Grush looks right up at her.
Non-human biologic.
Folks, I'm not making this up.
It's no longer what L.A. Marzuli thinks.
It's now, this is what you're being told in the halls of Congress.
The UFO phenomena, the UFO-UAP phenomena is real, is burgeoning, not going away.
And this, in my opinion, is the coming great deception.
Wow.
Wow.
Incredible.
Listen, we are in the middle of Bible prophecy.
We are in the middle of the warning.
We are in the middle.
I'm being asked to give a word in the next few days for an event that is going to take place.
And all I keep hearing, all I keep seeing is the shortage of food is going to hit America since the 1920s, the Depression era.
If America and the church is not ready for what's coming, and I hate talking like this, oh, you've been hanging around, Jim, too long.
No, no, no.
When you study the word, there are warnings.
Pay attention to the warnings.
Pay attention to the warnings.
Can I say that again?
Pay attention to the warnings.
God is trying to warn his people, and yet you're being wrapped up in your own opinion because you love yourself so much.
You're being wrapped up with what you want to think and what you want to say.
Yet, maybe that's not what God is trying to tell you.
Prepare, prepare for what's coming.
Think water, Pastor Jim said on this stage.
Prepare with food.
The mission and the hour that we're in right now.
Listen, if you think this activity that is going on in New Jersey, it's a walk in the park for what's coming.
That's right.
Yet, are we ready?
Is your heart ready?
It's your home ready.
We are one event from crippling America like we've never seen before.
On the West Coast, watch earthquakes.
On the East Coast, watch for nuclear radioactive bombs.
In the middle of the United States, watch for the EMP that will cripple the power that unifies this nation.
We are one event, Ricky, that would turn everything around.
Yet the most important thing is, is your heart ready?
Do you know Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Number two, is your home ready?
Are you prepared with food?
Are you prepared with water?
Are you prepared?
The key is God is trying to warn you.
It's not alarming you, it's warning you.
There's a difference between alarming and warning.
Amen.
You know, we see here in Luke 21, it's the same as Matthew 24, Mark 13, the book of Revelation, you know, some parts of Timothy as well.
But Luke 21, it says here, and they asked him, Teacher, when will these things be and what will be the signs that are about to take place?
And he said, see that you are not led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, I am he, and the time is at hand.
Don't go after them.
For when you hear of wars and turmoils, don't be afraid, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
Then he said, Nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom.
There'll be great earthquakes, which you just prophesied on the west coast, great earthquakes, in various places, and famines and pestilences.
There will be terrors and great signs from the heaven.
Biblical Forewarnings 00:15:45
Ellie, I want to ask you this question.
We're seeing great signs from the heaven here in the word of God.
Is this something that people would use as a deception like UFOs?
As these are the great signs from the heaven, or are they actually the great signs from the heavens?
Well, again, that's a very, very complex question.
We've got just a few minutes together, and I've been studying this phenomenon literally for decades.
I've written numerous books, created films, and all this other stuff.
The whole UFO-UAP phenomenon is a very, very complex discussion.
But briefly, this.
1945, you have the atomic bomb going off in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In 1947, you've got the Roswell Daily paper telling us that General Raimi empties saucer and the Army actually finds what?
A flying saucer right there.
This is a replica of the paper, but there it is.
RAAF captures flying saucer.
So, 45, the atomic bomb, 47, the Roswell crash.
And the Roswell crash happens in Roswell, New Mexico, because the 509th bombing group, which is the bombing group that dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki, on Hiroshima, is stationed in Roswell.
That's not a coincidence.
1948, you get the birth of Israel.
This fulfills prophecy.
Amos 9, 14 and 15 says this.
And this has never happened until 1948.
Think about it.
I will bring back the captives of my people, Israel.
They will build the waste cities and inhabit them.
They will plant vineyards and drink the wine from them.
They will also plant gardens and eat the fruit from them.
I will plant them in their land.
And never again will they be pulled up out of the land I have given them, says the Lord your God.
That's never happened because we know in AD 70, the Romans came down and plucked them out of a land, no doubt.
The Jews that were still there in AD 135, when the Barakosha Revolution happened, the Romans came in.
That was it.
No Jew could enter Jerusalem on the pain of death until, of course, Constantine, and then things began to change.
But it's never been a nation.
And on the ashes of the Holocaust, Israel was born.
45, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, 47, Roswell, 48, Israel becomes a nation.
And the entire UFO phenomena, as we know it, takes off right after that.
Then you get the abductions, the crop circles, the cattle mutilations, all the lights in the sky.
That's where it really takes off.
This is the coming great deception.
Ask yourself this.
What would change the global paradigm in an instant?
All you need to do is see a MyOI craft over many of the cities of the world.
There was a commercial, and I challenge your viewers to go on YouTube after the show and watch it.
It's called Hello Down There.
It was a minute and 30-second ad in the 2024 Super Bowl this year.
And basically what it shows, because I don't have time to get into the whole thing, is mile wide craft appearing over all the cities of the world.
That's what they're implying.
How do you create a one-world government and a one-world religious system?
We are now completely wired up.
We're on Skype right now.
Okay.
I'm in, you know, in California in the Santa Monica Mountains, and you guys are up in the Ozarks.
And yet we're in real time talking.
This is absolutely unbelievable.
We're in the modern era.
So if you have craft showing up over the cities of the world, every single camera, this is it.
It's going to change everything in a blink of an eye.
And the book of Revelation says that there's going to be a one-world government and a one-world religious system, which begs the question, how do you do that?
Go back 150 years and everybody would say, well, that's never going to happen.
You can't possibly have a one-world government and a one-world religious system.
It's never going to happen.
Now it can happen.
We're all connected via the satellite network.
And when these guys show up, they will say, we created all life on this planet.
Think about it.
We created all life on this planet.
We started the world's religions.
We started the world's civilizations.
Now at this critical juncture in human history, we, your progenitors, your creators, have come back to usher mankind into a golden age.
And folks, there's a little track that we have.
If I have time, I can read it.
It's called What is the Truth?
But there's some channeled information that talks about that basically the rapture of a church at some point.
Some of these people that don't belong here anymore are going to leave and up they go.
Just saying.
That's what's coming from the New Age channelers, not Christians who know their Bible.
They're New Age channelers.
So we are, you know, you mentioned Matthew 24 and Luke 21.
It's all, it's coming together.
Remember, I'll end with this.
Jesus warns us, you know, don't be deceived.
Even the elect would be deceived if that were possible.
Men faint from fear from what is coming upon the earth.
We're here.
We're on the doorstep of this stuff.
You know, I want to say, according to Tom Horne, the late Tom Horn, if Donald Trump had not been elected in 2016, 2017, there would have been a full disclosure of alien phenomenon.
There's a video of him saying this.
I want you to watch this and then let's comment on that, L.A.
And it's amazing how much the Bible, like the Bible says the Antichrist will appear with lying signs and wonders, right?
2 Thessalonians 2, 9.
His coming is going to be marked by fearful sights and great signs from heaven, Luke 21, 11.
The Antichrist and the false prophet are depicted as being aligned with the powers of the heaven.
But then Daniel says this.
Daniel says the Antichrist is going to champion a strange alien God.
This is what it says in Daniel 11, 38 through 39.
But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces and the God whom his fathers knew not shall he honor with gold and silver and precious stones and pleasant things.
Thus shall he do in the most strongholds with a strange God whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory.
If you were talking to Dr. Michael Heiser, he would tell you that the terminology there in the Hebrew can literally be translated an alien God, that the Antichrist is going to champion some kind of an alien God.
So it's amazing how much in the scripture actually seems to be forewarning us that this grand delusion that is coming is going to be presented in such a way that this nearly 80% of Americans are going to be happy to accept, happy to believe in.
In fact, the most recent polls, get this, the most recent polls that were done show that Christians and religious people are going to be the ones most likely to embrace these alien overlords, right?
To accept them.
Eli Marzuli, what do you think about that video from Tom Horne?
You know, Tom and I were on the same page.
Unfortunately, Tom's no longer here.
He passed away just a short time ago.
And Dr. Mike Heiser is no longer here.
So it's very sobering that, you know, two greats, as it were, are no longer here to try to warn the body of Christ of what's coming.
I completely concur.
You know, I wrote about this in my book.
The first book was published by Zondervan.
It's called Nephilim, The Truth is Here, 1999, that book came out.
So I was researching this all through the 90s.
My first mentor, Dr. I.D.E. Thomas, talked about this, Satan's Last Dam, the Omega conspiracy, the Alpha and the Omega.
And he talks about, you know, this, the whole so-called extraterrestrial presence.
I call it, you know, Tom called it the strong delusion from 2 Thessalonians.
I've just taken that and sort of rework it.
It's the coming great deception because it deceives all the people on the earth.
They believe the lie.
That goes back to 2 Thessalonians.
God sends them strong delusion, you know, because they did not believe the truth.
He sends them this lie.
And it is a lie.
And, you know, you ask yourself, why does God do this?
Well, the earth, for the most part, has abandoned the Lord, specifically in America.
I mean, the churches are very much asleep.
They're still not even talking about the phenomena, even though it's being talked about in Congress.
Nancy May said recently she wants to bring one of these alien bodies in and show it to Congress.
Now, that probably won't happen because the people, these entities within our government, are not accountable to anybody.
That's why Congress is talking about it, because they can't get to first base.
They cannot get to first base.
You know, we've got 10 films on the whole UFO phenomenon.
And all of this, it's everything from close encounters of the first, second, third, and fourth kind, the abduction phenomena, cali mutilations, crop circles, two films on Roswell.
Finally, what is the truth?
What does it all mean?
Are these really extraterrestrials or are they interdimensional entities?
And of course, in my opinion, they are interdimensional entities, i.e. fallen angels, which are coming here, which are going to completely change the entire paradigm of the globe when they show up.
And we talked about that in the last segment.
So, you know, briefly, succinctly put, Tom and I are on the same page.
Absolutely.
David Nino Rodriguez said, we are coming into the greatest deception ever pulled on man, and most will fall for it.
You write in your book, who are they?
What do they want?
And why are they here?
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LA, why are we so amused?
Why are we even America is obsessed with UFOs.
America is obsessed with ETs.
America is obsessed.
Yet, we still don't have the answers.
Who are these creatures?
You write about that.
You give us a biblical worldview on this.
And I think this is what's so important, right?
The last program we had was with one of the top leading researchers of biblical worldviews, George Barna.
Dr. George Barna.
And I want to tell you something.
If you're going to look at this obsession of UFOs, you better find out what the Bible has to say about them.
That's right.
Because if not, the subject of UFOs will lead you into roads and detour you into some very dark things.
Yet, what does the Bible have to say about them?
Order the book today, Rungs of Disclosure by the one and only L.A. Marzulli.
I want to ask you this question.
You say in your book that NASA is hiring Catholic priests.
So my question for that is, why not evangelicals?
And for what purpose is NASA hiring Catholic priests, as you write in your book?
I asked the same question.
Where are the evangelicals?
Why is, look, the Catholic religion is about 1.2 billion people.
So, they are a largest religious organization on the planet.
There's no doubt about that.
They are sort of waning right now.
I was reading today that they're almost facing bankruptcy because donations are so low.
You know, what are we looking at here?
So, they know something is coming.
They all know that.
So, why is NASA never a straight answer?
Why are they hiring priests?
Because they know that they need to be able to somehow take the people and usher them into this new world order, usher them into what really is the religion that we see, the one-world religious system that we see in the book of Revelation.
That's what this is about.
They're already doing it.
They're already trying to figure out: well, how do we, what are we going to say?
How's this going to work?
You know, they're going to have the Pope come out with maybe a gray or a gray alien or whatever.
I mean, it's okay.
These are our progenitors.
You know, they're worshiping the same God.
But as, you know, and I wrote about this in the Nephilim trilogy, that quote that Tom Horne writes about the strange God, that was in my very first book, Nephilim.
I mean, that thing's like 25 years old now.
25 years old, that book came out.
I'm 74 years old, so it's like it's not lost on me.
And when I wrote that book, a lot of criticism.
I've been kicked out of churches because of it.
And I understand that.
But the Lord has raised me up, and I'm not boasting.
The Lord is, that's why all the glory to him.
But I think he's raised me up.
And it's not like I'm a Johnny come lately in the last six months.
This goes back 30 years, folks.
I've been deeply into this for 30 years as the Lord began to guide my steps and show me what I believe is the coming great deception.
So the idea of strange gods, I mean, I wrote about that 25 years ago, and Tom's saying the same thing.
Why?
Because it's why are we saying the same thing?
Because it's rooted and anchored in the biblical prophetic narrative.
That is what I call the guidebook to the supernatural.
Our Bibles are the guidebook to the supernatural.
And this is why it's so important.
Look, why would Jesus, let me end the little rant by saying this: why would Jesus say, and it'd be like the days of Noah when I return?
Why is Jesus pointing back to the days of Noah?
What's so important about the days of Noah?
It's when the fallen angels are down and they're corrupting the image.
That's Doug Hamp's title of his book.
They're corrupting the image.
It's a mingling of the seed.
Genesis 3:15 got that from Gary Stearman.
The Genesis 3:15 narrative is the most important scripture in the entire Bible because it talks about the seed war.
And then Daniel 2:43, their seed, there's that word again, will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them.
I mean, who, what do you mean their seed will mingle with the seed of men?
So it's not men.
This is why Genesis 3:15 is the gateway to the Bible.
Thank you, Gary Stearman.
It's the gateway to the entire guidebook of the supernatural, i.e., the biblical prophetic narrative.
It explains, but you've got to connect the dots, and that's what we do in the book.
It explains what this phenomena is that we're watching unfold right before us.
LA, is it true that the Vatican has a telescope named Lucifer?
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Is that true?
Yes, it is.
That's the work of Tom Horne and others.
They went down there and they did a whole film on that.
Yes, it's called the Lucifer Telescope.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Gee, why do they do that?
Of course, they'll spin it and say, well, it's Lucifer, you know, light, light being, and so you're seeing your lights out in space.
But, you know, why name it, you know, why not name it, you know, the St. Peter telescope or, you know, the Ten Commandments Telescope or something.
Why Lucifer?
I mean, seriously, come on, guys.
In one of our films and watchers, we actually sat down with several people who talked about the Vatican just talking about the whole UFO-UAP phenomenon and positioning themselves for the answer.
And this is why, going back to your question, you know, NASA, never a straight answer, hiring priests.
So they don't bring someone like me in who's going to tell them a completely different story than what the priests are saying.
So, you know, this is why my work and the work of Tom Horn, Mike Kaiser, Gary Stearman, Marlo Gonzalez, I mean, there's a whole bunch of us out there talking about talking about this.
And it's important for the church to realize that even the elect would be deceived if that were possible.
So this is a warning.
Thank you for having me on.
Thank you for allowing me to talk to your folks, your constituents here, because this is the coming great deception.
And it's no longer, you know, back there, you know, way back on George Norrie's coast to coast, with all due respect to George.
And I've been on his program numerous times.
This is the halls of Congress talking about this.
So you might not like me or the books that I write.
Doesn't matter what I think.
Watch what the halls, your government, your representatives, what they're saying, because the phenomena is real, it's burgeoning, and it's not going away.
20 years ago, nobody was talking about these subjects.
And I can freely say this.
I may be wrong, but I witness it.
20 years ago, we were the only Christian program that dare brought Tom Horn, L.A. Marzulli, and others to talk about this type of subjects in the Christian community.
And things like CERN.
CERN being one of them.
We had the crazy one that everybody calls crazy is Steve Quayle.
I mean, just to name a few, but I want to tell you something.
Today, voices like Ella Marzuli, they're everywhere now.
But I want you guys to pay attention.
There's only one L.A. Marzulli.
There's only one Tom Horn.
Tom Horn introduced us to L.A. Marzulli and others that were talking about this subject.
The Nephilim.
Nobody was talking about it.
Nobody was writing books about it outside of Tom Horn.
And I want to tell you something.
And LA.
In L.A., of course, but we brought him to the forefront of where we needed to have this conversation today.
I want to thank all of our beautiful partners because you accepted this message that was brought through this program.
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We want to keep supporting you guys and bring more crazies like them.
No, I'm kidding.
Bring more voices like them because the evangelical community has gone off the rails.
The evangelical community is doing some crazy things that you cannot explain.
And I want to tell you something.
Woe unto you evangelicals that have taken the message and paraded a circus with it.
We are responsible.
You know why they don't call us to important conversations, Ricky?
Because I believe a lot of evangelicals do crazy things where they grab a baseball bat.
And I am going to point out to some people because we grab baseball bats and put a Bible over and beat a Barbie dollhouse.
How can you get, how can we be taken serious in the conversations that do matter, like this subject here?
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Ellie Marzuli, you're on the broadcast with us today.
Only three minutes left of our broadcast.
If somebody's watching this right now and they're saying, well, LA, this is the first time I've really been hearing about this in depth.
I've never really considered that a UFO or, you know, some extraterrestrial being has any significance to me or my Christian life.
What would you say to somebody that's just now opening the door to that conversation?
I would say you really need to wake up.
You need to start doing a deep dive.
I mean, I've got 14 books and 30 films, and a lot of it revolves around the whole UFO phenomenon.
This is the coming great deception.
This does and will create the one world government.
Remember, this is written 2,000 years ago.
I mean, one world government, one world religious system.
Well, that's an impossibility.
That'll never happen.
We are on the cusp because when they show up, when they show up in my LY Crafts, everything changes, folks.
I keep saying it over and over again.
I'm saying it a priori before the event happens.
This thing happens and everything changes and it happens in an instant.
And once they appear, Myel Widecraft over the cities of the earth.
And look, again, I challenge you.
Don't take my word for it.
Watch what Congress is saying.
Google on YouTube after the show, when you get a minute, hello down there.
Google it up on YouTube.
It's a minute and 30-second commercial at the 2024 Super Bowl.
It is predictive programming of what's coming.
It's kind of tongue-in-cheek.
That's how they couch it.
But this is what's coming.
It's predictive programming, in my opinion.
Folks, this is the coming great deception.
There's no doubt about it.
Men will faint from fear for what is coming upon the earth.
Jesus says that.
Paul warns us that Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders.
What's more of a lying wonder than this?
And they'll tell us that they created all life on this planet, started the world's civilizations, right?
Started the world's religions.
Now at this critical juncture in human history, our space brothers are back to usher mankind into a golden age.
They are not our space brothers.
They are, in fact, the fallen ones.
And it's a very complex.
That's why we have 10 films in 14 books.
Wow.
So I want to ask you this question because you've obviously written this new book, Rungs of Disclosure, Following the Trail of Extraterrestrials in the End Times.
That's available on Charisma Media.
You can go get this book and read it.
But if somebody was going to start with one of your films, L.A., which film would you recommend they started with if they want to get started on this deep dive?
The deep dive would be we have a 10-box.
We're the only Christian ministry that has this.
There are 10 DVDs in here, full-length films, with my business partner, Gil Zimmerman.
The very first book talks about the whole UFO phenomenon.
So we have everything from close encounters of the first, second, third, and fourth kind, cattle mutilations, abductions, crop circles, two films on Roswell.
I mean, any of those films is going to get you in to the subject.
But the first film is really interesting because all these witnesses come on the record.
The second film, I sit down with two UFO researchers from the other side of the aisle.
They don't believe in the biblical prophetic narrative like we do.
So, I mean, that 10-box set is, I mean, there's so much information in there.
And again, I want to thank my business partner, Gil Zimmerman.
Amen.
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