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Dec. 11, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show With Isaiah Saldivar
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Want to Restore the Atheists 00:06:33
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the Village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today our special guest is revivalist, preacher, and author Isaiah Saldivar.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, you're watching Jim Baker's PTL Television Network.
It is a great feeling to have you tune in with us today.
You know, Mondo, hundreds and hundreds, probably thousands, hundreds of thousands of shows people could be watching right now that they're tuning in to the Jim Baker Family Show on the PTL Television Network.
How does that feel?
It's scary that millions of people watch this program all over the world.
And they judge you, they talk about you, they criticize you, but yet we're standing firm in the word of God.
And I want to tell you something.
Thank you to all of our beautiful partners and friends that support this program, that have stood with this ministry since we started almost 26 years ago.
And we want to thank you for joining us every single day, praying for us, standing with us.
But most importantly, continue to study God's word.
Things are changing in the world.
Things are literally Ricky.
Right before our eyes.
Prophecy is being fulfilled.
The church, oh man, we can talk about the church all day long.
We're going to get it.
And I want to tell you something.
We love the church.
I will build my church.
The Bible says, I believe this is the hour for the church.
But before God does anything, he has to deal with his church first.
And we're going to talk about that today.
Amen.
Today, we're going to be dealing with an important issue.
Friends, I want you to continue to tune in.
Really, DVR this episode showed, record it, go back and watch it a few times.
We're going to be talking about, Mondo, this is important, how to cast out demons.
Friends, that is a topic we need to be talking about here in 2024, especially.
But I have a video from Pastor Jim Baker.
He's at Morning Star Ministries actually in 2006, and he's talking about restoration.
I want you to watch this.
Restoration is dirty work.
The potter gets his hands dirty.
It's not always comfortable.
But God will sacrifice your comfort to develop your character.
Did you hear me?
God will even allow you to go to prison so he can talk to you.
Do you want to know what our problem is?
The difference between this lump and this vase is this lump is full of itself.
If you're going to be a vessel to be used of God, you've got to empty yourself out.
We're trying to get filled up and God's trying to empty us out of ourselves.
That's why I no longer am the president of the PTL television network.
I was a lump of clay that got too full of myself.
I was going to wear a suit tonight and my wife said, why don't you just wear blue jeans?
I said, that's a good idea.
In fact, I might as well just take this coat off because I'm now a potter.
It's dirty business being a restorer.
It's a dirty thing.
A potter gets dirty.
The potter told me that people don't even want him to come to their church.
And he's one of the greatest messages I've ever heard from this old potter that brought his pottery to us and made pottery.
He said, Pastors don't want me to come because it gets dirt in the church.
Same reason they don't want some of these snotty-nosed little dirty kids from the ghetto in their churches because they might mess the place up.
The building's made to get messed up.
That's what restoration does.
When you're restored, you start restoring other people.
If you want to know you're really restored, it's when you want other people to get restored.
You're not selfish.
I know preachers who got saved on death row in prison and then get out of prison and they don't want any more prisoners to ever have anything else.
They don't want, I want to ordain prisoners when they go through Bible school and all because there's a mission field inside the prison that lifers only can reach those people back inside the prison.
And I've told this to men who got saved in prison, but they said, Oh, we can't trust those guys.
Hey, man, you are one of them.
If you've been restored, you want to restore everybody.
I'm so crazy restore.
I want to restore the cats, the dogs.
I want to restore the people.
I want to restore the atheists.
I want to restore everybody.
I love restoration.
I believe God loves restoration.
My heart leaps when I come in this building.
It's being restored.
It was dead for 20 years.
It's alive.
It's alive.
This is a symbol to the world of restoration.
The world saw it come down.
And it's time the world says, look what God did.
You know, what a powerful man of God.
Wow.
That's a great word.
I think everyone needs to hear that.
You know, restoration is dirty business, but it's worth it.
Why?
Because the Lord will send you through the refining fire, friend.
The Lord will put you in a hard place sometimes, not for your detriment, friends, but for your benefit so that you can come out of that fire more pure gold.
Mondo, you know, the old adage is that pressure makes diamonds.
You know, Mondo, it's time that the church accepts pressure, especially in the times we're living in.
Church ought to be a hospital for sick people.
That's right.
And I want to tell you something.
We are living in a world where we have to deal with sin, but we also have to deal with restoration.
And one of the roads in the journey that God took me through the moment I got saved from gangster graves was deliverance.
And I didn't understand it.
People Want to Do Jesus' Works 00:07:08
This is back in the day.
This is an old school thinking.
And yet, for the church today, it's a new thinking.
But I want to tell you something.
Restoration and deliverance, Ricky, go hand in hand because when God wants to restore you, He has to deliver you first.
Amen.
You know, friends, if we dealt as aggressively with our sin internally as we did with other people's sins in the church, Mondo, we'd see a much different church.
That's the thing.
And friends, you may not like hearing that message, but we're going to preach the message, friends.
We must be holy.
We must be righteous.
We must follow after the word of God as our final authority.
That's not saying you're going to be perfect, friend, or you're never going to make a mistake or you're never going to fall down.
But friend, get back up.
Clean yourself off.
Pursue righteousness.
Pursue Christ.
Every single day, wake up and say, Holy Spirit, what is it that you would have me to do?
I want to set my agenda aside and I want to put your agenda first and foremost.
I want to put my will subservant to your will, friends.
I promise you, if you pray that prayer fresh early in the morning, right when you wake up, open up your eyes.
Thank God for another day that you get to be more intimate with him and to tell people about him.
Say, Holy Spirit, I want to do your will today.
You know, Mondo, I believe the man that we have on our broadcast with us here today is truly praying prayers like that in the morning because you're not in the part of ministry that he's in and not praying those types of prayers.
We have with us today Isaiah Salvador.
He is the founder of Isaiah Saldivar Ministries.
He hosts a weekly podcast called Revival Lifestyle that is currently in the top 1% of all podcasts in the world, reaching people through social media as his ministry.
You know, Mondo, he reaches six to eight million people, if I remember this correctly, per week, and he equips people on how to deal with the issues of today.
Isaiah, I want to thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
We're going to talk about your new book, How to Cast Out Demons.
I want to start off with this right away.
Why did you name your book, How to Cast Out Demons?
Yeah, so I saw that in the church, people didn't know in a practical sense how to do the work that Jesus did.
In John 14, 12, Jesus said, The same works I've done, you will do an even greater because I go to the Father.
And so, people I've noticed, they want to do the works of Jesus.
They want to lay hands on the sick.
They want to preach the gospel.
They want to cast their demons.
They just have no clue how.
And so, right now, you can go and Google anything, how to do this, how to change the oil, how to fix an outlet, but you can't really find how to cast out demons.
So, I wanted to make a practical guide for any believer, any leader, any pastor that wants to do the ministry that Jesus has called everyone to do, but has no clue where to start.
So, it's very simple.
It's very practical.
The subtitle of the book is everything you need to know about deliverance.
And my publisher said, Hey, if you put that, you better make sure you come through on that promise.
You better make sure you add everything you really need to know.
And in the book, you'll see it talks about how demons get in, how to keep demons out, how to seven-step method to casting them out, how Jesus cast out demons.
I mean, literally every question you can think of is in the book, but it was just really a passion project to say, We got to train the church.
We got to equip the church.
We're living in one of the darkest times in human history.
And I want to say this to everybody watching: the devil is not the only one pouring out his spirit.
God is pouring out his spirit right now on all flesh.
And a part of that outpouring is the movement, is the ministry of deliverance, and it's the ministry of Jesus Christ.
It's nothing new.
It's an ancient ministry that started 2,000 years ago.
And that's what we're talking about in the book.
Amen.
Isaiah, I want to ask you this question for those who may be watching right now and they're saying, Well, you know, the casting out of demons, that type of ministry, that's only set for the pastors of a church or for the deacons of the church or the higher ranking members of whatever denomination they may be a part of.
Is that true?
Or can anyone from pulpit to pew cast out a demon?
Yeah, it's a great question.
So, one of the greatest lies the enemy has given the church is that this is only for the elite leaders in the body of Christ.
The interesting thing about specifically deliverance is it's not a spiritual gift.
And I'm going to tell you why that's a good thing.
1 Corinthians 12 talks about the different nine gifts of the spirit.
You're not going to find deliverance in that.
It's also not an office.
So, like in Ephesians 4, 11, you'll see like the pastor, the evangelist, the apostle, the teacher, the prophet.
It's not in there.
The deliverance ministry is the call to every single believer.
If it was a spiritual gift, people would say, well, I just don't have that gift.
That's just not my anointing.
If it was an office, people would say, well, that's just not the office God has called me to.
But instead, the Bible says it's for every believer.
The most basic way to describe it is in 2 Corinthians 5, the Bible says, you are Christ's ambassador.
If you are listening to this right now and you are a Christian, you are an ambassador of Christ.
You are called to represent Christ on the earth.
And as his ambassador, I'm called to do the works that he did.
That's why Mark 16, 17 says, and these signs shall follow them that believe.
And here's the interesting thing.
The first sign is in my name, they will drive out demons.
I mean, imagine that the first sign of a believer is they will drive out demons.
And there might be people watching saying, well, I don't really do that.
So the question would be, I don't, am I really believing like I say I'm believing?
If I'm not driving out demons, if I'm not laying hands on the sick, if I'm not preaching to people, if I'm not doing what the disciples did, what Jesus called every believer to do, then am I really a believer in the way that I think I am a believer?
And here's what everybody watching has in common.
Every single one of us have a friend or a family member that is demonized, has a demon, and needs freedom in Jesus' name.
And that's the important thing to know.
In Matthew 10:1, Jesus gave the disciples authority to drive out unclean spirits and to heal every kind of disease and sickness.
So it's not in Isaiah's authority.
It's not in our authority.
It's in the authority of Jesus Christ that we come and cast out demons.
So Jesus says, all believers.
Then he also enlists the 12.
Then he also enlists 72 disciples in Luke 10.
And then the Bible says, this is interesting: that 72 come back and say, even the demons obey us in your name.
So they were actually shocked.
And what you'll find is as you start actually casting out demons and doing deliverance and getting involved in the move of the Holy Spirit, you're going to be like, Isaiah, this works.
Like, I read the book, I learned, and it's all scripture in the book, and I learned, and now I'm doing it.
And my friends are coming to my house, and I hear this all the time.
They're coming to our house.
We're praying.
We're casting out demons.
I had one family tell me we turned our garage into a deliverance room, and all the neighbors in the neighborhood are coming to our garage.
And we're doing deliverance in our garage.
It went from being, you know, a man cave to a deliverance, a war room.
And I'm seeing this all over America.
We just had a month ago 10,000 people gather in Chicago at the Now Arena.
10,000 people packed out this arena and we did a mass deliverance event there.
We prayed for 10,000 people to be set free.
And I'll tell you what right now, the devil is afraid of what God is doing.
The Lord is moving in this generation.
He's raising up men and women that are not apologetic.
They're not afraid.
They're not ashamed of deliverance ministry.
This is an ancient ministry of Jesus and it's the call to every single believer.
Why I Left Church 00:08:02
Here's why.
Because the Bible says they shall cast out demons.
It's for every single believer to do this ministry.
Amen.
Isaiah, would you share some of your testimony of encountering God in 2011 and how you got involved in deliverance ministry?
How did you start this journey?
Yeah, so I was raised in the church at 16, decided I was going to become an atheist because I never saw the power or presence of God in the church I was raised in.
And so I just thought God was far off.
God was not wanted nothing to do with me.
And I came to a place where I wanted nothing to do with him.
So at that time, I graduated high school at 16 years old.
I graduated college at 19 years old.
I was just successful in every part of the word.
I was getting hired to be a deputy sheriff.
I was just turning 20.
And I have to say this to the viewers: I had no desire for God.
I had no plan for God.
My 40-year plan, God was nowhere to be found in that plan.
And my little sister for six months begged me to go to church.
Isaiah, please just go back one time.
You're going to feel the presence of God.
You're going to experience God.
And I told my girlfriend at the time, I was with her for four years.
I was going to marry her.
I said, let's just go.
Let's get her off our back.
I'll never go again.
So I walked through the door of a church in Modesto, California, January 12th, 2011.
And I said this.
This will be the, this is what I said.
This will be the last time I ever stepped foot into church.
I sat in the very back.
There was probably 500 young people.
The church seats are about 2,000.
There's a large church.
I sat at the very back with my arms crossed.
And the preacher started talking about world missions and all this.
It had nothing to do with me.
I was uninterested.
I was making sexual jokes about people on stage.
I was just far out there.
I was angry.
I was bitter.
I was depressed.
At that time, I was drinking almost every single day.
I was throwing these big parties for all these college students.
I was lost in every sense of the word.
And he gave the altar call.
And the only way I can describe it is I felt somebody grab my shirt and start pulling me to the altar.
Like I could not resist it.
Now, I know now the Bible says nobody comes to the Father unless the Spirit draws them.
But at the time, I didn't know what was going on.
I was an atheist.
I went to that altar and in so many words, and this might offend some religious people listening, but I said this.
I said, God, I don't effing believe in you.
I said the F word at the altar because I didn't know what else to say.
I was angry and bitter and depressed and an unbeliever, an atheist.
I said, but if you're real, then I started making all of these wild claims.
I said, I'll break up with my girlfriend.
I'll leave my job in law enforcement.
I'll leave my career.
I'll go do this.
I'll travel the world for you.
I started saying all this stuff.
I'm like, why am I saying this?
And I'm saying this to God.
Like, Lord, if you are real, God, if you are out there somewhere, like I learned about growing up, I'll lay everything down.
What I didn't know is that God was about to take me up on my offer and make me do everything I said I would do if he revealed himself to me.
The moment I say that, I hear an audible voice, not inwardly.
Remember, I'm an atheist, not inwardly, not a whisperer.
I didn't know what the Holy Spirit was.
I never heard about the Holy Spirit that we could have none of that.
And an audible voice says, Isaiah, I don't want 99.9% of you.
I want all of you.
And if you give me everything, I'm going to use you to preach my gospel.
The moment that happens, I go into some out-of-body experience.
I don't know if there was a vision in the body, out of the body.
I don't know, but I was out of where I was at in that church and I was seeing a bright light.
I was hearing the voice of God.
I was seeing myself preaching before thousands of people on a stage.
I saw myself doing everything I'm doing now.
I saw myself in a vision 13 years ago.
So I'm in this vision.
I'm hearing God tell me what to do.
He says, I'll take your hands.
I'll take your feet.
I was telling the Lord, I have nothing to offer you.
I'm an atheist.
I don't know any pastors.
I don't know any preachers.
I don't know the Bible.
And the Lord's like, I'll take your hands.
I'll take your feet.
I'll take your mouth and I'm going to use you.
I come out of this out-of-body experience and I'm speaking in a language I've never heard before.
The only time I've ever heard this language was I have a memory of five years old.
I heard my parents praying in tongues one time in my life at five years old.
And here I am now speaking this language.
I don't even know what it is.
And I'm crying for the first time in 10 years.
And I'm trying to cover my mouth because my girlfriend's next to me.
Now I know it's tongues.
I was speaking in tongues.
I didn't know what it was at the time.
And I'm speaking this.
I'm crying.
I didn't cried in 10 years.
Like I said, I was angry.
I was bitter.
I was hardhearted.
And all of a sudden, like mud and dirt is coming out of my eyes.
And I'm wiping my eyes and I'm looking at my hands.
And it's just like, it's like dirt.
It's like a little bit of mud.
As that's happening, the preacher gets on stage.
There's 500 young people at the altar.
And the preacher says, there's a young man in here right now.
And God is removing the dirty scales off your eyes.
And so I'm like crying even more, crying even more.
Then I tell the Lord, okay, okay, okay.
I'll serve you.
I believe in you.
What do you want me to do?
And then the Lord says, I want you to pray for one hour a day.
I'm going to bring revival to your house.
The moment he says that, the preacher gets back on stage and says, the Lord's telling some of you, you need to pray for one hour a day.
Revival's coming.
That all happens.
To make a long story short, I go home.
I don't sleep for three days.
I don't eat for two weeks.
And a full-blown revival broke out in my living room.
There was no flyers.
There was no Facebook.
There was no YouTube.
I started preaching my testimony in my living room.
And the first week, 30 people came, then 50, then 80, then 100, then 200, then 300.
Three months into the revival, 500 people were coming to my living room to hear the gospel preached.
And in that, this leads to deliverance.
All my party friends were coming and getting saved and getting delivered.
And we were casting up demons.
And my party friends would come into my living room and start slithering around on the ground like a snake, start hissing, start growling, start levitating off the ground, trying to crawl up the wall.
Every crazy demonic manifestation you can think of was happening when my party friends were coming to my house.
And so my family got saved.
My parents, my siblings, my aunts got saved, my uncles, my cousins.
It felt like in that moment, everybody around me got saved.
They were coming to my house.
We were praying 24-7 and a full-blown organic revival that lasted almost 10 years broke out.
And that is how I got involved in deliverance ministry.
I didn't have time to be religious and say, oh, this isn't for today.
Oh, this stuff ended with the apostles.
I didn't know any of that.
I just read the Bible and I told my uncle who was in ministry 30 years.
I said, Nino, I'm Hispanic, so we call him Nino.
I said, Nino, can we do all the stuff the Bible says?
Can we really cast out demons?
Can we really heal the sick?
And my uncle said, Isaiah, everything in that Bible you can do.
Everything the disciples did, you can do.
And we started doing it and we've been doing it ever since.
And now finally, after 13 years, it's in book form and the testimony is also in the book.
But it was just a very radical conversion.
Let me say this last thing.
December 31st of 2010, I was at a beer pong tournament.
Okay.
15 days later, January 15th of 2011, I was casting out demons in my living room.
So think about how crazy that is.
I went from a beer pong tournament, radically saved, went from an atheist to revivalist, doing deliverance in my living room, and been serving the Lord ever since.
Never went back to drugs, never went back to drinking, never went back to the girl, never went back to the career.
I left my job in law enforcement, left my girlfriend, and gave everything to follow Christ and have never looked back since and have been serving him faithfully.
Amen.
Amen.
Friends, that testimony is in this book.
I want you to go to jimbakershow.com or call us at 1-888-988-1588.
How to cast out demons?
This is everything you need to know about deliverance by Isaiah Saldivar.
Friends, we have this available through an affiliate we have with Charisma Media.
Scan that QR code or go to our Charisma Media affiliate to get this book, How to Cast Out Demons.
Isaiah, I love that story, man.
I love the journey that you've been through because it's exciting to know what God does in the middle of your darkest moment.
God has the ability and his grace and mercy to wake you up.
And I was having a conversation with our director Wes, and he was there at your house.
I think he was about 12 years old, and he experienced what you just described-the prayer revival that was taking place at your home.
The director of our show.
I want to tell you something.
You have done something for this generation that no one that I know of has been able to do, and that is to create a movement of prayer right from their home.
Demonic Everything Culture 00:05:10
Usually they start preaching and whatnot, but yet God called you to be a prayer warrior for this generation.
No wonder you're seeing six to eight million people log in every week to hear what God is doing in your life.
I got to ask you this: how has the woke movement, the culture, affected the church?
And is it part of a demonic influence?
Absolutely.
So, the devil's used woke culture to infiltrate society, but actually, the adverse effect has happened because of how demonic everything has become.
Every Grammy show, every award show, every music video, it's all demonic now.
But he's overplayed his hand.
And what it's done is it's made people realize there's something spiritual going on.
So, before they would look at a guy like me and say, oh, casting out demons, oh, the demonic, not everything's demonic, Isaiah.
Now, because of woke culture, people are actually waking up and saying, Wait a minute, maybe you call everything demonic because everything is demonic.
Every time we watch a music video, every time we turn on the television, every time, and I hate to say it this way, anyone from the left says anything, it's always something crazy and weird and bizarre and demonic.
So, woke culture has really overplayed its hand.
It's done its best job to pervert and distort the truth and make morality subjective rather than what the Bible teaches.
And that's objective.
This is one thing I've seen woke culture do.
Woke culture says it's your truth, it's your feelings, it's your way.
This goes all the way back to Genesis 3:1, when the devil said, Did God really say that?
And woke culture questions the word of God.
It says things like, Did God really say marriage is between a man and woman?
Did God really say murdering babies is that wrong?
Let's just call it abortion.
It's no big deal.
Did God really say homosexuality is a sin?
Did God really say fornication is that big of a deal?
So, woke culture has tried to undermine the word of God.
It attacks God's design on sexuality.
It attacks God's design on identity and family.
And I will say this as a deliverance minister, as somebody that's on the front lines doing this, it is demonic in every sense of the word.
Let me give you away one of the reasons I know.
When we saw this Donald Trump election, the next day, I was on social media on TikTok.
There were thousands of videos.
You guys probably saw this of people screaming and screeching.
They were literally going and making these bizarre.
I'll tell you what they were doing.
They were manifesting demons.
They were literally manifesting on a global level their anger and their anxiety and all of that.
The devil is so mad right now with what's happening.
Woke culture has tried to change society, but I believe that deliverance is the answer to see freedom.
This is what I think it comes down to.
Isaiah 5, 20 says, what sorrow awaits those who call good evil and evil good?
They call dark light and light dark.
They call bitter, sweet, and sweet, bitter.
And this is what we're seeing in society right now.
We are seeing a culture that calls everything demonic, everything wrong, and everything that the Bible calls sin good, and then looks at guys like me that speak out against it and say, that guy's dangerous.
That guy's bad.
He's speaking against homosexuality.
He's speaking against abortion.
He's speaking against the demonic.
And so guys like me are considered bad now.
But then guys that are dressing up as women, and I hate to use these words, but this is what's happening.
And we need to let the viewers know.
These men are dressing as women, working on our children in the library, calling it story time with the drag queen.
They're now good.
They're now normal.
They're now getting awards.
We now have, well, no longer, praise the Lord, but our ex-president, Joe Biden, would bring these people into the White House.
I was watching a thing where he brought him into the White House and these are trans drag queens that are flashing people on TV and that's considered good and normal, yet the church is now the enemy and the church is now considered bad.
I praise the Lord that there's a new day.
I praise the Lord that the winds of change have come and things have changed in this country for the better.
And now we're in a time where we're going to get this message out there.
We're going to see the captives get set free and we're going to cast out demons.
And yeah, woke culture is absolutely demonic in every sense of the word.
You know, I'm opening up your book to page 34 here in the book, How to Cast Out Demons.
Friend, you need to get this book.
It's available through our affiliate program with Charisma Media.
You write right here, I believe the greatest lie the devil has spread throughout the church is that Christians can't have a demon.
I want to dive into that because we have a lot of viewers who watch this show and some of them may have that same thought.
So I want you to kind of defend that position right there where you say that is one of the greatest lies the devil has sold the church.
Yeah, absolutely.
So one of the reasons why that lie is so popular, and it's honestly the number one reason why people, or Isaiah is this, Isaiah is false.
It's always for the same reason.
Satan's Disruption in Churches 00:11:33
It's because I believe that deliverance is not just for the unbeliever, but also for the believer.
The confusion started when they translated the King James Bible.
The Greek word for to be demonized is daimonizemite.
And all it means is this, to be under the power of a demon.
Well, they took that word and they translate it into the English word, possessed, which means to own something.
And that's not a good translation.
The best translation is to say somebody is demonized.
So now we have people that say, well, Christians can't be possessed, but they could be oppressed.
And here's what I would say.
There's no difference in the Bible between oppressed or possessed when it comes to demonization.
Jesus only dealt with demonization.
And in the case of deliverance, Jesus always cast demons out of people and never cast demons off of people.
So according to Matthew 12, demons always only live inside of humans.
That is where they want to be.
That's where they crave.
They want to be inside of a body.
They look to enter a home.
So Jesus casts demons out of people.
So when people say, well, Christians are oppressed, but the world is possessed.
I say neither are true.
It's just demonized.
And in the case of being under the power of a demon, absolutely a Christian can have a demon.
Absolutely a Christian can be demonized.
In fact, I would say there's no point in doing deliverance on an unbeliever because they're just going to go back to their sin.
And Jesus says the demons are just going to come back seven times worse.
I have seen literally thousands of pastors, of leaders, and of genuine born-again, tongue-talking Christians get delivered from demonic power.
So not only do I have the experience, but I believe the Bible also shows that deliverance is for the believer, that deliverance is for the church.
I mean, if you look at like Luke 13, this woman was a daughter of Abraham and she was demonized and Jesus set her free from the spirit of infirmity.
If you look at Mark 1.39, the Bible says Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting out demons.
These were religious people.
These people were living at a much higher standard, these Pharisees, than even we are.
They were living by the law of Moses.
If you committed adultery, you would get stoned.
And here Jesus comes and says, I'm going to cast demons out of people in the synagogue.
If you look at Matthew 16, Jesus told Peter, Peter, Satan, get behind me because Satan had influenced Peter.
If you look at John 13, Satan entered Judas.
If you look at Acts chapter 4, the Bible says they were filled with the Holy Spirit.
And then in the next chapter, it says Ananias and Sapphira allowed Satan to fill their hearts.
So here they are in Acts 4, full of the Holy Spirit.
The same Greek word in Acts 5, Ananias and Sapphira are now full of the devil.
And they ended up dying because they allowed the devil into their life.
If you look at Matthew 10, Jesus told the disciples, don't go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans.
Only go to God's lost sheep of Israel.
So he said, go to God's people and do deliverance.
If you look at Mark 7, 24, Matthew 15, 21, the deliverance is the children's bread.
The Syrophoenician woman came and said, I want deliverance for my daughter.
And Jesus said, no, this is only for my followers.
This is only for my children.
And then she said, even the dogs eat the crumbs off the master's table.
And Jesus says, I haven't seen faith like this in all of Israel.
Go home.
Your daughter's been healed.
Your daughter's been delivered.
So Jesus was saying, deliverance is for the believer.
For you, for the viewer to say that Christians can't have demons is to say that deliverance is only for the unbeliever.
So if I am a Christian, think about this, and I'm struggling with a demon, you're telling me I have to become an unbeliever first to be able to get freedom because you don't believe that Christians could have demons.
I had a lady tell me one day, she said, Isaiah, I'm a born-again believer.
I'm on fire for God.
And I've had all these voices telling me to take my life.
And she said, I went to my pastor.
Think about how sad this is.
And this is an epidemic happening all over America.
She said, I went to my pastor and I said, I have a demon.
I need to get free.
And my pastor, who doesn't believe in deliverance, now, instead of saying, let's deal with your demon, he has to say, you must not be a believer if you have a demon.
So now instead of putting the devil on the stand and saying, we're going to persecute the devil, now we put her salvation on the stand and say, this poor lady who's bound by Satan, we're going to question her salvation rather than cast out the demon.
So deliverance is 100% for the believer.
It's part of the work that Jesus did on the cross.
If you look at Matthew 8, 16, it says that he cast out demons to fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah.
It's all throughout the New Testament.
It's all throughout the gospels.
It's happening in the book of Acts and it's happening today.
Whether you believe a Christian could or can or can't have a demon, you're missing out because this is for everybody.
This is for the believer.
God's doing it all over the place.
And it's time to see the captives get set free and break out of this lie.
Of course, in the book, I go into greater detail on some of these things.
But yeah, Christians absolutely can have a demon.
This is powerful because I want you to go back and realize who are the ones that are causing havoc in the church, in the ministries, as demon-possessed Christians.
Christians that come in and they disrupt the services.
Christians that come in and disrupt the pastor's wives' lives and the ministry.
And you have to go back and realize that it is Christians that allow this to happen.
I love what you write in your book about different chapters.
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Christians can have demons exposing the lie.
Chapter four, how do demons get in?
Seven common ways.
Chapter five, eight signs you might have a demon.
And if you're a Christian and you're watching this, this is so crucial because the last thing you want to do is be used by Satan to disrupt the church, the ministry, even your own lives.
We have been sold a bill of goods that is a lie.
Yet you don't know your word.
There's an epidemic of Bible illiteracy going on in the American church, yet the church has to wake up.
We have to study the word.
Quit arguing about everything.
Quit getting on social media and being mean.
The Bible says we must pray.
We got to pray for our leaders.
We got to pray for the church.
You got to know your word.
You got to stand in the word.
It's time for the church, Ricky, to get back into the word.
We got to recognize evil for what it is in the church, in the ministries.
Quit being used by the devil.
Listen, when you enter into a prayer life, you allow the Holy Spirit to move in your life.
You allow the power of the Holy Spirit to speak to you and through you.
I believe we're living in one of the most dangerous time for a Christian that doesn't get into a prayer lifestyle and gets into the word.
You must be grounded in the word.
That's the only thing that we have, friends.
I mean, if your foundation isn't rooted solely on the word, then friends, I'm here to tell you, you don't have a foundation.
You have the false perception of a foundation.
But friends, the first storm that comes along, the foundation will begin to crack.
The second, third, fourth, fifth storm that comes along, you will find your foundation is leaving with the storm, friends.
The word of God is the only foundation we can set our feet surely on and be secured, friends.
It is the word of God.
You know, Isaiah, you brought up a good point.
I want to talk about this.
You know, how do we tell the difference between a psychological issue and a spiritual one like demonization?
Because a lot of the times people will come to a pastor.
They'll come to a elite member of their church, whoever it may be.
And they say, you know, I'm afraid that I'm dealing with a demonic situation.
And that pastor may say, well, impossible.
You know, you've said the prayer.
You've said the creed.
You've recited everything you needed to recite.
It's not possible for you to have a demon attached to you or a demon in you or be demon possessed.
So they maybe write it off as a psychological situation instead.
But let's talk about the difference between those two things.
Yeah, it's a really good question.
One of the problems we have right now is a lot of leaders, and I'm saying, I say this respectfully, are illiterate and ignorant when it comes to deliverance.
And the word ignorant is not a rude word.
It just means they just don't know.
One of the reasons why I wrote this book is I saw the ignorance in the body of Christ when it comes to deliverance.
And I want to see, I love the church.
I pastored a local church for 10 years.
I'm a part of a local church.
I've always been submitted under a pastor.
And I love the leaders and pastors of the American church.
And I want to see them truly train and equip to help their congregation with these issues.
So a lot of leaders don't know the difference.
And I think what we've done, there really is a mental health epidemic happening right now in America.
And a lot of people are going to the doctor.
They're getting a pill and they're getting medicated rather than getting delivered.
So, for example, now we tell people, hey, if you're hearing a voice, this is what even pastors are saying this.
If you're hearing voices in your head, you need to go get medication.
You're schizophrenic.
So now we've called demonization schizophrenia.
So instead of getting them delivered, we get them on medication.
Or if you say, all of a sudden, Isaiah, I'm sitting here and all of a sudden I get angry and rage takes over my body and anger takes over my body.
I would tell you, you probably have a spirit of anger.
You need to get set free from that.
That's not normal.
That's not God's will for your life.
But a lot of pastors would say, oh, we call that bipolar.
You need to go get a medication.
And so you go to the doctor and we've named a lot of these things, not all of these things, but a lot of these things we've named, basically named the demons of mental illness.
And there's people walking around who need freedom, but they have prescription pills instead.
So we have to learn to distinguish the difference between something that's physiological, psychological, and something that's spiritual.
I had this young lady come to me that we did deliverance on, went through a whole bunch of things.
I won't go into detail, but self-harm and everything you can think of was depressed, all of this.
She ended up on all of these medications.
And I said, how did you end up on all of these medications?
This is what she told me.
This actually sent chills down my spine.
She said, I went to the doctor.
I sat in a doctor's office for three minutes and said, I'm depressed.
I have these thoughts.
Blah, blah, blah.
Right then and there.
There was no scan.
There was no test.
There was no, let's check the chemicals in your brain.
None of that.
Right there, he prescribed her five different medications, strong medications that completely altered her life and that set her down the wrong path.
My thing is, we're so quick to think everything's physical and we never think that this might be spiritual.
So as leaders, we have to recognize, for example, if somebody's hearing a voice telling them, you're this, you're worthless, you're never going to be anything.
Just take your life, just kill yourself.
Nobody loves you.
That's a demonic thing.
That's not the flesh.
The flesh doesn't talk to you.
The flesh isn't speaking.
The flesh, the Bible says, is characterized by our sinful nature, which I talk about in the book, the difference between a flesh and the demon.
The flesh must be crucified.
A demon must be cast out.
But the flesh isn't going to tell you things.
And when you're hearing that voice in your head, and some of the viewers right now are like, yeah, I hear that voice.
That is an unclean spirit.
That is a demonic power.
If you're having dominating or intrusive thoughts that you can't get rid of, that you don't want, that's likely a demon.
If there's physical symptoms in your body that come suddenly and leave suddenly with no medical reasoning, that's likely a demonic spirit.
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If you're having recurring nightmares and night terrors every single night, usually a demonic spirit, eating disorders, sleeping disorders, irrational fears and phobias, having a dark countenance, having a desire to blaspheme the Bible.
I was preaching at a church doing deliverance and the senior pastor's wife came up to me and said, Isaiah, for the last 20 years, nobody knows this.
Every time my husband, her husband's the senior pastor, she said, every time he preaches, I hear dirty cuss words in my head.
I have these blasphemous thoughts and I hear a voice cussing and I didn't know what it was.
And then you came and told me about deliverance and I realized that's a demon.
This pastor's wife had had a demon for 20 years and she was struggling and no one helped her.
And then there now she was able to get set free and I know her still to this day.
She's never had those thoughts or those voices anymore.
So we have to be able to discern.
But here's the thing.
We got to start doing the work.
When you start doing deliverance, you'll start learning and you'll have greater discernment to tell what's physiological, what's psychological, and what's actually spiritual.
Amen.
I want to ask you this: what are some of the most common ways that people often open doors to demonic influence without realizing it?
Yeah, I would say the most common way is actually through entertainment.
It's interesting that the first five letters are enter in the word entertainment.
A lot of people don't realize.
I would say the greatest portal to darkness right now in our generation is the cell phone.
It's the access that we have now.
It's no longer men and women have to go to some store, go to some club, go to some shop to buy pornography.
Even these young people, they all have access on their phones.
I don't even know how people watching this give their kids smartphones.
I don't think any kid should have a smartphone.
I don't think any young person should have a TikTok.
I think all of these things are poison.
They're opening up the door to demons.
I've lost count of how many young people I've dealt with that got demons from internet pornography, from scrolling on TikTok, from watching things they shouldn't watch, from watching these videos that are completely unfiltered, completely uncensored.
So entertainment is a huge one.
Horror movies, demonic shows, movies with magic, movies with the occult.
Some people are going to call me legalistic for this, but I don't mind.
You can call me whatever you want.
I don't allow my kids to watch most Disney shows because I see that Disney, not only do they have a very, very heavy LGBTQ demonic alphabet community agenda, but they also fill all of their shows with magic and witchcraft.
And so the Bible says God detests and witchcraft is an abomination.
And now in our kid shows, you have witchcraft in every Disney princess movie.
You have witchcraft in every children's show.
So I take it serious.
I'm like, I'm not allowing that to enter my house.
I'm not allowing that in.
People also are very heavy into the new age.
People get involved in occult practices.
They get involved in Ouija board.
I deal with a lot of people growing up.
The Ouija board used to be very popular in the 90s, and they got demons from playing the Ouija board.
They thought it was innocent, but it's not innocent.
They go and get a psychic reading.
They go and see mediums and they open themselves up to demons, not realizing.
Here's a big one: astrology.
This is like, I'm a cancer, I'm a Libre, I'm a this.
McDonald's was handing out horoscopes for a while.
People get these horoscopes and they follow these star charts and they don't realize if you're into horoscopes, you're opening yourself up to a spirit of divination.
You could believe that or not, you're opening yourself up to a demonic spirit.
So these are things, sexual acts are a huge open door to demons.
Here's another one that I'll say this last one that's overlooked: trauma.
People don't realize oftentimes they get a demon not from what they've done, but what's been done to them.
I have a very, very heavy story of my wife getting a spirit of trauma from our second daughter, almost died in the NICU, almost died in the hospital.
Why It's Not Fair 00:15:31
And my wife literally got demonized by a spirit of trauma that she had to get delivered from.
She didn't do anything to deserve it.
She didn't open the door to sin.
She went through a traumatic experience and it opened the door to that demon.
So oftentimes, people don't get demons for what they do, but what's been done to them.
And this is something we deal with constantly.
People that have gone through sexual abuse, let's just say it growing up, they get a demonic spirit from that.
And I know the viewers are thinking, wow, Isaiah, that doesn't seem fair.
Here's what I want to tell the viewers: remove the word fair from your vocabulary.
The devil does not play fair.
The devil does not fight fair.
The devil does not care about fair.
There's been over 70 million babies murdered since 1973 due to abortion.
Is that fair?
Is it fair what the enemy is doing in our generation?
No, there's nothing fair about it, but it doesn't change the fact that there's a war going on and we have to recognize the war and we have to get on the front lines and fight this.
Here's what Paul called us.
Now, I'll end the segment with this.
Paul said, We're soldiers.
He said, You're a soldier, Timothy.
You're not some weak, anemic.
You are a soldier of God.
Don't get tied up in the affairs of civilian life.
Don't get caught up on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and scrolling all day.
Start fighting the good fight.
Start getting on the front lines.
And hopefully, in this book, we're going to be able to train you to do that.
Wow.
Go ahead.
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Preach this from your pulpits, pastors.
This needs to be more widespread taught amongst the church.
This is serious because a few hours ago, I received a call from a friend of mine that his mother committed suicide.
Yet, this kid is one of the most successful program writers for Yahoo.
Very wealthy, great family, yet no one knew that the mother was battling depression.
Wow.
Unless it hits home, you'll never take this serious what we're talking about today.
Unless you understand that this generation is dealing with depression, suicide, a drug addiction.
Let me say that again.
A drug epidemic like we've never seen before.
We are living in a time where if we don't call it for what it is, that's one thing.
But if we don't do something about what we're calling it, then that's where we're stuck.
We have the authority.
We have the power to cast every demon, every devil out of people's lives.
If it meant something to you, if it means something to you, you do whatever it takes to get that help.
I know that when my wife was diagnosed with lupus, which I binded in the name of Jesus and I rebuked that devil out of her life and I'm praying for her.
I'm interceding for my wife.
We're fasting for it.
But I want to tell you something.
You don't give up if you don't see results.
You don't give up.
Oh, I'm a preacher.
I got to stop screaming.
But I want to tell you something.
Life and death is in the power of the tongue.
We got to confess the word.
There are spiritual attacks that are coming our way, and we have to be prepared.
We have to understand what we're dealing against.
Isaiah, how can we as believers better guard ourselves and our families with the entry points of what you have been ministering about?
That's a really good question.
I think a big one, especially as parents, is we are called to be our children's guardians and parents, not their friends.
A lot of people I know want to be their kids' friends, want to allow them to have the iPad, allow them to have the show, allow them to have the phone.
We have to be hyper-vigilant as parents.
You need to know what are your kids watching?
What are your kids doing in your house?
Your job is to be the spiritual guardian and priest of your home.
And I really want to call all the men to rise up, put down the video games, put down the UFC, put down the football, and start being a priest of your home.
It actually blows my mind how many men that are Christian men don't pray with their children, don't pray with their wife, and are not the priests of the home.
And Leviticus, the Bible says the job of the priest was to make sure the fire stays lit.
And if you want to make sure that your home is protected from demonic influence, protected from demonic spirits, keep the fire burning.
Keep the fire of prayer.
Start Bible studies with your kids.
Start Bible studies with your family.
Start prayer meetings.
We get our kids together and we pray.
We pray in the spirit.
We put on worship.
My kids will pray for hours.
I'm sad to say this.
My kids will outpray most pastors.
My four-year-old, my six-year-old, they'll spend hours in prayer.
And a lot of pastors can't spend 20 minutes in prayer.
So we really have to raise the standard as parents.
We have to start being more excited in church and in the house of God than we are at the football game.
We have to be more passionate to give to missions and to give to ministries than we are to give to movies and to give to music and to give to the mall.
We have to get excited and passionate about the things of God.
The devil doesn't want to be in a house that's praying.
I tell people all the time, make your house a place where the devil doesn't want to be.
The devil doesn't want to be up in my house.
He doesn't want to be in a prayer meeting.
He doesn't want to be in a worship meeting.
We have to start making our houses and our families a place of worship and a place of prayer.
And we have to start being vigilant.
We have to start paying attention what's on the kids' iPad, what's on the television, what are they watching?
I mean, it's crazy.
I was just seeing that the Blues Clues, a show I used to watch growing up.
They had drag queen story hour on blues clues.
A lot of people, they don't pay attention that their kids are watching that.
Now your kids are watching shows that you don't even realize are being infiltrated, what we started the show with, by woke culture, and parents are completely ignorant.
They send their kids off to an ungodly, secular, liberal college.
I've seen this happen a hundred times.
The kid gets completely brainwashed by woke ideology, by demonic theology, and they come home.
They don't want to serve the Lord.
They start getting their face all pierced up, changing their hair color, doing all this.
It's because parents haven't been careful about how they steward their kids.
We got to be hyper vigilant.
Again, some viewers are going to say, that's religious.
That's too much sheltering.
If you think that this is too much sheltering, I want you to Google the word shelter.
The word shelter means protection during a storm.
We are in a sexual storm in America.
We are in a demonic storm.
We are in an actual storm right now.
I want to be a shelter.
I want to shelter my kids.
I want to protect my kids.
We don't celebrate Halloween up in this house.
The only ghost that we allow into our house is the Holy Ghost.
So we don't participate in all of these things that, well, the kids at school, well, you're not like the kids at school.
We are holy.
We are set apart and we are consecrated.
So if you want to really safeguard yourself, live a life of holiness, walk in the spirit, and say, we want nothing to do with darkness.
We are not of this world.
We are not from this age.
We want to make sure that every door is closed and there's no way for the enemy to get into our families and to get into our lives.
Amen.
So, what is the most critical aspect of deliverance that people often overlook?
Really good question.
All right.
Here's the most important thing.
It takes time to do deliverance.
I know a lot of pastors are like, it's a moment at the altar.
And that does happen sometimes.
Sometimes it is a moment at the altar.
Sometimes it is five minutes.
But usually what's overlooked is the energy that it takes, the patience that it takes, and the dedication that it takes.
You have to be willing to spend sometimes hours with people, sometimes two hours, sometimes three hours, sometimes four hours.
Here's what I tell people: we're going to fight until you get free.
I'm not going to give up on you.
I'm not going to tell you, well, we already prayed for that a month ago or six months ago.
If you can go to the doctor and the doctor will give you something and help you, and then six months later, you can go to the doctor again.
Why are we not like that with people?
Hey, I'll pray for you now.
And then, if six months later, you need more prayer, we'll pray again.
And if six months later you need more prayer, we'll pray again.
But deliverance, it's a warfare, it's a wrestling match, Ephesians 6.
Our battle is not against flesh and blood, it's against powers and principalities and rulers.
But we're in a cosmic wrestling match that takes time.
And what I see people do is they do a quick two-minute prayer.
They don't confront the demon.
They don't wrestle with the demon.
They don't really spend the time to get the person fully free.
And a lot of people end up staying in bondage.
So this ministry, it does take time.
It does take energy.
Now, could the Lord deliver somebody in 30 seconds?
Of course.
Could the Lord instantly deliver somebody?
Of course.
God can do whatever He wants.
But I've seen that a lot of times it takes time.
30 minutes, 40 minutes.
We're fighting.
We're warring.
We're calling out.
We're going back and forth with the demon.
The demon's stubborn.
I have a whole chapter on what do we do with stubborn demons.
And it's a lot of work sometimes, but we can't overlook that the dedication it takes.
There is nowhere in the Bible that Jesus said this would be easy.
There's nowhere in the Bible where Jesus goes, oh, yeah, this is no big deal.
The Christian life is easy.
This is a life of warfare, a life of battling.
And we need to be willing to spend the time, the energy, and effort to see the captives get set free.
Amen.
We need to be able to spend the time, the energy, and the effort.
Church, pastor, deacon, wherever you are in your church position and amongst the body of Christ, friends, we need to be able to have the time for deliverance.
That's the most important thing, Mondo.
You know, time is obviously our hottest commodity here on earth.
It's more valuable than any money that we could get, any asset that we'll ever have.
Our time, you know, of monetary value is the most valuable thing that we have.
Pastor, you need to be able to give the time to your flock.
I mean, Mondo, if you knew you were out there and you were shepherding and you knew there was a lamb you had with, you know, a broken foot and he couldn't travel as fast as the other ones to the food.
So he never got the food, you'd probably go out there and pick him up and take him over there.
You'd make the time to ensure that he was taken care of while he was in the healing process.
Pastors, we have to do the same thing.
You know, we only have a few minutes left in the broadcast, seven minutes left.
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Pastors, read this and preach it from your pulpit.
But I say, I want to ask you this question.
Seven minutes left in the broadcast.
What advice do you give to people post-deliverance to ensure that they remain free?
Really good question.
Yeah, this is almost as important as getting the demon out as keeping the demon out.
So one, I'll say you need to wear the armor of God.
Ephesians 6 talks about putting on the full armor of God.
So this is something I do every day.
It's not a religious thing, but I just pray, Lord, I put your armor on and I'm going through and I'm praying for the armor of the Lord.
We are in a real battle.
We're in a real war.
No soldier would go out the front door without his armor.
So we as Christians, as believers, we shouldn't go anywhere without the armor of God.
So once you've been delivered, you need to keep that armor on, keep that protection on.
The other thing you need to do is you need to speak the word of God over your life.
Negative confession is a characterization of demonic influence.
So you need to confess positive the word of God.
What does the word of God say?
Because if you're speaking negative things, bad things, dark things, idle words, you're always speaking death.
You're going to open yourself up.
You're going to open yourself back up for those demons to re-enter.
Another thing is you need to make sure that the doors the demon came in through originally don't get reopened.
So let me give you a practical example.
If you got delivered from a spirit of pornography or lust or perversion, which is extremely common, this is probably something we deal with more than any other spirit because of what's going on in social media right now.
If you're dealing with a spirit of lust, you need to make sure that you don't reopen the door.
Once that spirit's left you, it's going to seek re-entrance.
So you need to make sure that you're not reopening the door to that spirit.
Don't be on TikTok scrolling.
Don't be on Instagram.
Practically, you might need to delete the apps.
Practically, you might not be able to handle being online late at night.
So these are practical things that you can do.
Another very, very important thing is you need to stay in the scripture.
You should be reading the Bible, especially right after deliverance, every single day.
The Bible says his word is a mirror to our soul.
It's a lamp into our feet.
It's a cleansing agent.
It's a two-edged sword.
It's food for the spirit.
We got to have the word of God.
You will not survive without the word of God.
You will not maintain or keep your deliverance without the word of God.
All right.
Last but not least is you need to develop a life of prayer and worship.
Demons hate prayer.
Demons hate worship.
And we need to do what 1 Thessalonians 5, 17 says.
We need to start praying without ceasing.
This is not about just a prayer meeting, which we should have prayer meetings.
I go to prayer meetings.
I had a prayer meeting Sunday night at my house with some friends.
Prayer meetings are amazing.
But I'm not just interested in the prayer meeting.
I'm interested in the prayer lifestyle.
So we have to develop a lifestyle of prayer and worship, making these demons not want to come back into us, making our bodies.
And when I say bodies, I literally mean our bodies, an uncomfortable place for demons to dwell.
And that comes through prayer and worship.
Let me give you one more bonus one.
Maintain fellowship with local believers.
Get involved with other believers.
Get involved with your church.
Some people, they open the door to demons because they're bored.
So they're bored.
They're scrolling online.
Most demonization comes through people that are bored.
They're wandering online.
They're doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.
Stop being bored.
Get involved in church.
There's so much work to do.
I pastored for 10 years as a senior pastor.
I'll tell you what, if you would have called me and said, Isaiah, I'm bored.
I need, I want to come help at the church.
There's a list of things that you can do.
Okay, so go do yard work at the church.
Do something, but don't be bored.
The enemy wants to isolate you.
He wants to get you by yourself.
He won't attack the flock.
So he gets you alone and isolated.
And when you get involved in a local church, you get around other believers, you get into spiritual ministry, you will not be alone.
And it'll be hard for the devil to attack you.
So I can't overstate the necessity of being involved in a local church.
I can't overstate the necessity of getting involved with other believers and getting in community.
There's power in community.
I'll leave you guys with this.
We can do more together than we can alone.
Get involved in the army that God is raising up.
Grab the book.
Learn about this stuff because we're living in a dark time where we have to be trained and equipped to do this.
Wow.
Amen.
There is power in pure community.
And you can only find pure community in the body of Christ, a body of Christ that truly loves the Lord, that truly seeks after his holiness, his righteousness, and his will in our lives.
What a powerful show it's been today, Mondo.
I mean, this is a topic that maybe some people don't want to get into.
They don't want to talk about this from their pulpits.
But friends, it's an important topic, and I'm glad we can discuss it here on the Jim Baker show.
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It is the reason that we get to continue to remain uncensored, isn't it, Monday?
Absolutely, 100%.
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Amen.
Once again, to remind people that Jesus Christ died at the cross for our sins.
He didn't come to get even with you.
He got even at the cross for your sins.
Answer the call today.
He wants to save you.
He wants to deliver you.
And he wants to restore you.
Amen.
Salvation is the most important preparation you can do of all times, friends.
Spiritual preparation.
Ensure that if you were to die today, you know with confidence where you would be going.
You know, I told a story about how I had my computer stolen.
I had my computer stolen right from underneath me and I was looking for it.
And the main question I kept getting asked was, Is all of your information backed up to the cloud?
And I said, no, it wasn't.
I got asked that three or four times, Mondo.
And somebody finally asked me, Why didn't you do it?
And I said, well, because I thought I had more time.
Friends, that's the reality of what we're living in.
We assume we have more time than we have.
Friends, if you knew today was your last day here on earth, how much differently would you be living your life?
How much more would you be pressing into the face of God?
How much more would you be opening up the word of God?
Friends, we must continue to pursue the Lord.
Why?
Because it feeds our souls.
It's what nourishes us.
It's what allows us to live a pure and a holy life walking on this earth, preparing us for eternity with him, friends.
There's evangelists, pastor, I don't know what you want to go by, but Isaiah Saldivar, we hope to have you back and we hope to talk with you some more about these types of issues, these types of subjects, because I believe this is what the church needs to be addressing nowadays.
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Remember this: God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
Thank you.
Thank you, brother.
Yeah, man.
Thank you.
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