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Forgiving From the Heart
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| Forgiveness, you say, is a conscious decision to make. | |
| I have a heart. | |
| When I went to prison, God spoke to me I would not be out of prison because I had a 45-year sentence unless I forgave everyone. | |
| So I did. | |
| I wrote their names down on paper. | |
| But then he said, you got to forgive from your heart. | |
| That was different because it's one thing to say it. | |
| It's another thing to believe it. | |
| So I believe right now, this time when there's such hatred and division, political systems fighting each other, that we've got to love our enemies. | |
| How are we going to do that, Kathy? | |
| We have to. | |
| Well, I want to go back to, I knew that hurt and that pain and how I needed forgiveness in my life through a situation that I had been through. | |
| And so I didn't know where could I go, who could minister to me to help me forgive. | |
| So I went to the only place I knew. | |
| I went prostrate to the floor and asked the greatest team of three, Father God, Holy Spirit, and Jesus. | |
| I'm like, I don't know what book to read. | |
| I don't know what counselor or pastor to go to because I had unforgiveness in my heart. | |
| And so I spent two years of my life prostrate on the carpet before the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and said, help me root it out of me. | |
| Did you have to have this deliverance before you got into this? | |
| You have a healing ministry. | |
| Correct. | |
| And the power of God doesn't work when you got unforgiveness. | |
| It's true. | |
| So I had to get that for myself. | |
| And I wasn't looking to have a healing and deliverance ministry. | |
| I was just looking to heal my own soul, my own wounds, what I knew was holding me back from the fullness of God because I knew I had unforgiveness in my heart. | |
| And when we look at Matthew 18, 34 and 35, it talks about the parable of the unforgiving servant. | |
| And it says the master forgave the servant's debt, but the servant didn't forgive another's debt. | |
| But look at this. | |
| This was, and in anger, his master turned him over to the jailers for punishment until he paid back everything he owed. | |
| But this is a part of the verse that really gets me. | |
| This is how my heavenly Father will treat you unless you forgive your brother from your hearts. | |
| And that's what you said, Pastor Jim, from our hearts. | |
| So we have to pray for those who hurt us, but we also need to forgive and we have to do it from the heart. | |
| And I tell people sometimes we can't do it from our own heart, but the Holy Spirit resides in us. | |
| So we co-labor with him and we partner with him and say, Holy Spirit, help me do this. | |
| We have, you know, Jesus left us a helper, a comforter, a confidant, a friend, a guide, a counselor. | |
| And so we don't have to do it in our own strength. | |