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The Jesus Movement Conundrum
00:03:08
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| You talk about the pandemic revival. | |
| What's happening? | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| Well, I think we all reevaluated our lives during the pandemic. | |
| And the good side of that was we spent more time with family, and that was good. | |
| That was good for about a month. | |
| Then we were done. | |
| We were like, all right, let's get on with this. | |
| But I do believe that it caused people. | |
| Same thing happened with 9-11. | |
| If you remember the Sunday after 9-11, churches were full all across America. | |
| That's right. | |
| We weren't ready. | |
| But you can go back before that. | |
| Go back to the Jesus movement. | |
| And the churches didn't know what to do with the converts. | |
| They come in and they didn't look right. | |
| They didn't smell right. | |
| They didn't act right. | |
| And so we lost. | |
| There was a big, only less than 40% of those that got saved during the Jesus movement are still believers. | |
| Really? | |
| I did not know that's the case. | |
| But you're right. | |
| The church wasn't. | |
| Were you there in the Jesus movement, Mondo? | |
| You were still in the church. | |
| I was there, Jean. | |
| He was pretty young. | |
| I was there. | |
| But you know what, Gene, you're so right. | |
| I was born and raised in church, good fundamental church. | |
| But when the Jesus movement happened, I wish the church knew what to do with those of us that went to the Jesus movement concerts and Keith Green and all this kind of stuff. | |
| But they just didn't know. | |
| Crazy kids. | |
| A lot of crazy kids are God. | |
| And they didn't know what to do with them. | |
| But here's the problem. | |
| They look, and it just feels like I'm bashing pastors. | |
| I'm not bashing you, but I am. | |
| I am one, so I have something to say. | |
| You are one. | |
| So we have to not, it's so easy to look at our four walls and our congregation. | |
| That's a good thing. | |
| We're looking at our group of people that we're there to shepherd. | |
| That's a good thing. | |
| But we cannot keep that alone. | |
| And you can't, then what happens if we're not careful, we get over into, I've got to protect my people. | |
| And so you're protecting your people. | |
| And so what happened, little by little, people started believing that the separation of church and state was actually in the Constitution. | |
| In fact, it may be in the Bible somewhere. | |
| And it's just not the truth. | |
| So the easiest thing to do is let's stay in the middle and don't offend anybody. | |
| And then we'll see. | |
| And if you get saved, that's great. | |
| Welcome. | |
| Just make sure you dress right. | |
| And, you know, we try to keep it in the middle. | |
| Well, you're looking at decades of that. | |
| And suddenly, the veil was ripped apart and churches are being shown. | |
| Pastors are being seen for who they really are. | |
| And I believe this congregations now are going, so what are you going to do? | |
| What do we do about this? | |
| Are we going to meet? | |
| Is the church going to meet? | |
| The enemy is trying to shut down the church, Jim Lori, because what he did, he tried to close us, shut us down. | |
| Then he put a mask to cover our voice. | |
| That's the whole thing. | |
| Listen, you can think it's about COVID. | |
| No, it's about the eradication of the believer. | |
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Take A Stand Wherever You're At
00:00:43
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| This is, don't think this is about a disease or a virus. | |
| This is about right and wrong. | |
| That's right. | |
| Good and evil. | |
| It's not even right versus left. | |
| It's about good and evil here. | |
| And this is why we're in the fight of our lives. | |
| And if we don't stand up, Jim, if we don't take a stand, and that's what is so important, we have to take a stand wherever we're at. | |
| And you think, well, and this is one thing I want to encourage those of you that are my age or older. | |
| It's real easy to believe, well, my time has passed. | |
| We'll leave that for the younger group. | |
| No, no, listen. | |
| Those of you over 65, you own the country. | |
| Yes. | |
| You have the money. | |
| Right. | |
| That's it. | |
| You have the money. | |