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Feb. 28, 2018 - Jim Bakker Show
08:38
Billy Graham and Jim Bakker's Lowest Moment - Full Story
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The Wife Who Gave Dignity 00:07:58
What Ruth did for me.
Yes.
Ruth gave me dignity.
Yes, she did.
The wife of Billy Graham gave me dignity.
And I said, I'm bringing her flowers.
Yes.
There I am.
Somebody had a picture there, camera.
And the only reason I want to lay flowers at Billy Graham's grave is just to show my heart.
I don't know how to show my heart.
Do you understand that?
I just want to say thank you, Billy.
I never push my way into people saying I never, you know, but I want to honor in this last moment.
I just, I'm so thankful for what Billy has done for the world.
For the world.
But when I was in that prison, the lowest day, probably up to that moment in the prison, I was sick.
I had pneumonia.
I never once laid in my bunk in my cell and did not do my job.
I cleaned toilets for five years every day.
I would not lay in the bed, even though I felt like I was dying.
You know, I got pneumonia.
You know why I wouldn't do it?
Why I wouldn't let somebody out?
Because if I didn't do my job, another inmate would have to do my job.
They would have to do my job and probably their job.
And I was never going to have an inmate say, that Christian, that Jim Baker hole there.
Now, he lays in bed when I'm doing his work.
But that morning, I cleaned my toilets.
I had my shoes that had holes in the toes.
They were my toilet shoes.
I had two pairs of tennis shoes.
That was rich in prison.
That was abundant living to have two pairs of tennis shoes.
I had a good pair that I could wear to the visiting room to see Tammy Sue and my family.
And I'm serious.
My toes were hanging out of my shoes.
Yes.
And the guard called me.
He said, they say Baker and they never say Jim.
Baker, you have a visitor.
And I said, it's not visiting day.
I didn't know who it was.
I didn't know what it was.
He said, you need to go to the warden's office right now.
I thought, oh, God, help me.
I'm in trouble.
Going to the warden's office usually meant they're going to...
Yeah, that's the principal's office if you're a kid.
It really is.
I had on my old clothes.
I had on my wrinkled toilet cleaning clothes.
Not my visiting, my family clothes.
It's two different sets of clothes you had.
Yes, perfectly pressed.
And your ragged tennis shoes.
My ragged tennis shoes.
And also, I had hair.
It was disheveled.
It was so disheveled because they wouldn't give you anything.
Hairspray could be a flame gun.
You'd put fire to a spray of hair.
You ladies could get in trouble.
Oh, yeah.
Don't smoke if you're going to spray hair.
You could go up in flames.
Because, you know, it's really dangerous.
Right.
And so in prison, they don't give you anything.
No hair goop, no nothing.
And so my hair was disheveled.
My clothes were disheveled.
I was sick with pneumonia.
I looked like a man that had been sleeping under a bridge for years.
So I walked over to the warden's office across the prison yard and I stood out there and I remember I stood on a piece of carpet and somebody, one of the guards, just walked by.
He said, Baker, what are you doing here?
And I said, well, they called me to the guard.
They see the prince, not the principal, the warden.
And he said, well, you can't stand here.
Go stand over there.
Somebody came out of the office and they said, Baker, you have a visitor.
I said, well, it's not visiting day.
Who's here?
He said, Has nobody told you?
Billy Graham is here.
He said, Do you want to see him?
I looked down at my shoes with my toes hanging out and my wrinkled clothes.
And I was sick.
I looked bad.
And I thought, oh, the last time I saw Billy, he was on my show.
I have a picture of it right there.
The only picture I have of Billy and me on a show.
And the last time I had been with Billy Graham, I was on TV with the who's who of the world.
The who's who of the world at a meeting at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention.
We've been honored to be the program that would bring that meeting to the world.
Right.
And I thought, oh, I don't want him to see me looking like this.
But he came, so I had to go out.
I walked into the room.
And there was the warden who was there, and assistant wardens, and everybody wanted to see Billy Graham.
But when I walked in, all I could see is this six-foot-something man, and I'm a five-foot-something guy.
And I walked in.
He threw his arms around me.
And he held me.
Wow.
And he said, Jim, I love you.
Yes.
How could anybody love me looking like that?
I had been disgraced to the world.
And a man who on the radio, like a day before, I'd heard, this is what I heard.
Billy Graham voted as one of the top three most respected men in the world.
Man In The Coffin 00:00:55
And here he is in my prison Holding me in his arms.
Telling me that he loved me.
Wow.
And I didn't feel love very much anymore.
And that's the man that's lying in that coffin today.
That's right.
Wow.
That's why I just want to put flowers on his queen.
That sounds silly, but there's nothing else I can do for him but preach the gospel and win souls to Jesus Christ.
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