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April 29, 2017 - Jim Bakker Show
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The End Result is Chaos - John Guandolo & Joel Richardson on The Jim Bakker Show
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Why We Meddled in Syria 00:02:05
Essentially, anytime we meddle in the Middle East too much, and we saw it in the past eight years out of control, the end result is chaos.
What is happening right now in Syria absolutely falls on the laps of Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama.
They absolutely caused this nightmare.
They fomented the Arab Spring.
They were part of all of this.
They were funneling weapons from Libya into the hands of these so-called Sunni rebels, etc.
And I understand that Assad's in an existential war against these radicals to protect his people.
They're called the Alawites.
We won't get too technical.
But he definitely has got out of control.
He's killed half a million people.
And when he gassed these children, Trump, exactly if he was making a statement against Russian sort of expansion of power, I'm not exactly sure what the purpose of all that is, but I know this.
The Sunnis that are the normal Sunnis, not necessarily al-Qaeda, they were grateful because they're being choked out by Assad.
But if you take out, this is the conundrum that we're in.
I have not yet heard a single military analyst, I mean people who really know the Middle East.
I've said, what's the answer?
They go, we've got to take out ISIS.
You go, okay, you take out ISIS, and then you're going to have millions of Sunnis fleeing into Europe.
You take out Assad, you're going to have, it's going to go the other way.
No matter who you take out, they're going to start killing, the weak party is going to start getting killed, and then they're going to start fleeing into Europe, and you're going to have a few million more refugees.
So no matter what you do, so the best thing you can do is kind of corral it in and not let it get out of control.
And that seems to me that that's what Trump's been doing.
And a lot of people are grateful for it.
My colleague at Understanding the Threat, Chris Gobbatz, who's the guy that went undercover at Hamas doing business as care in the United States back in 2008, he testified last summer in front of Senator Cruz's committee,
Global Islamic Movement Matters 00:01:49
his hearing on terrorism and radicalization of Muslims in the United States to this point, is that we could take out every ISIS fighter tomorrow and the global Islamic movement would continue.
Because the problem is not ISIS.
The problem is not al-Qaeda.
The problem is the global Islamic movement.
And so each of these entities, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Abu Saif, al-Shabaab, all of them, the Muslim Brotherhood, Tbiliki Jamaat, Jamaati Islami, are all entities in the movement.
Now the leading entity is the Muslim Brotherhood of the current movement.
But they're all seeking to establish a caliphate under Sharia.
And the other thing that I want to taper off, or kind of tag off what Joel said, is they're only fighting when you see them fighting each other.
It is either over matters of Sharia or over matters of power.
That's it.
Who's going to be the caliph?
Al-Baghdadi of ISIS says he's the caliph right now.
There's a disagreement among that, but the bottom line is he says he's a caliph.
He's the caliph.
Now you can argue, well, you know, legally under Sharia, he didn't do it the right way.
Well, neither did three of the first four rightly guided caliphs.
They killed the guy before.
And so that's, all bets are off when it comes to power.
So it's either matters of Sharia or power.
And what you're watching right now is you have Iran, you have Saudi Arabia, and everyone, they're worried about their own interests and their own survival, but they're also worrying about being in charge.
Are we in trouble?
I think we are in that we have a lot of threats bearing down on us right now, both internal and external.
Yes.
We've lost our way.
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